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arne_wiebalckGood morning janders and ironic!05:43
jandershey arne_wiebalck o/05:43
cennegood morning ironic !05:44
cennehey janders , arne_wielbalck05:44
arne_wiebalckhey cenne o/05:45
jandershey cenne o/06:04
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200893706:33
iurygregorymorning janders arne_wiebalck cenne and Ironic o/07:11
cennemorning iurygregory o/07:12
arne_wiebalckhi iurygregory o/07:12
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rpittaugood morning ironic! o/07:44
iurygregorymorning rpittau o/07:45
rpittauhey iurygregory :)07:45
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jandershey iurygregory rpittau o/07:51
rpittauhey janders :)07:51
iurygregoryjanders, o/07:53
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opendevreviewliuzhuangzhuang proposed openstack/ironic master: API: Node Tags API  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79357308:49
opendevreviewIury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/ironic master: Follow-up to  Include bios registry fields in bios API  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79390709:22
iurygregorybfournie, rpittau dtantsur ^09:22
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dtantsurmorning ironic10:03
rpittaugood morning dtantsur :)10:04
iurygregorymorning dtantsur10:04
dtantsurthank you arne_wiebalck!10:05
opendevreviewMerged openstack/sushy-tools master: Add support for returning message and attribute registries  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/sushy-tools/+/79036110:05
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jandershey dtantsur o/10:28
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opendevreviewDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Move provision states documentation to the user guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79394611:00
opendevreviewDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Trivial: fix an outdated link  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79394711:05
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: do you know if `smartctl -H` returns a failure exit code?11:07
dtantsurseems like yes11:18
* dtantsur has now read man more thoroughly11:18
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dtantsuractually, it seems like we can run with -a and still get an exit code11:20
dtantsur(with -a we'll get more information in the ramdisk logs)11:20
* dtantsur is reading https://alexander.kirk.at/2013/02/07/munin-smart-plugin-ignore-error-in-the-past/ now11:24
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opendevreviewDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: [WIP] Check the target root device with smartctl  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79395311:50
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: tl;dr something like ^^^11:50
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arne_wiebalckdtantsur: nice, was not aware the return code is a bit mask :)11:52
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: yeah, check the manpage, it's quite interesting11:52
* arne_wiebalck is reading ...11:52
arne_wiebalck"prefail attributes <= threshold" confuses me11:56
arne_wiebalckit seems to mean we have crossed the threshold to the failing side of things11:57
dtantsuryep. I don't fully understand it either11:57
arne_wiebalckor does it mean: there are prefail values, but not yet above the threshold where we should worry11:57
dtantsurin theory, if it's non-zero, it's dangerous11:58
dtantsurdo you have anyone to ask?11:58
arne_wiebalcksure11:58
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arne_wiebalckit seems to indicate an upcoming failure, general state "impending failure"12:02
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dtantsurI'm not capturing the difference12:03
arne_wiebalckthe device has not failed yet, but is expected to fail soon12:04
arne_wiebalckI agree, there is danger. The question is: is it dangerous enough?12:04
arne_wiebalckFor instance, in our deployment we would not replace such a disk.12:04
arne_wiebalckSo, for us, failing deployment would be a false positive.12:05
dtantsurokay, so maybe make it tunable for cleaning and only check bit 3 for deployment?12:05
arne_wiebalcksounds good to me12:05
dtantsurokay, I'll update it. I probably won't have cycles to work on the cleaning one.12:06
arne_wiebalckthe health check is maybe sth which should also run as part of the burn-in ... but could also be a second step (which is maybe more flexible)12:06
arne_wiebalckI can see if I can add a cleaning step, inspired by the deploy code.12:07
opendevreviewDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Refactor: use convert_image from ironic_lib  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79395512:07
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: do you know if we can actually run smartctl --xall and then only fail if bit 3 is set?12:09
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: not sure I get the question ...12:10
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: --health has a very short output, pretty much only pass for fail12:11
dtantsurthis is why I'm calling --xall in case of a failure to leave the full output in the logs12:11
dtantsurbut I wonder if I can just call it with --xall right away and check the exit code for bit 3?12:11
arne_wiebalckah ... erm ... good question12:12
arne_wiebalckany issue with calling --xall all the time, then calling --health12:12
arne_wiebalckor do you want logs only when a failure is detected?12:13
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arne_wiebalckon every deploy is maybe too much12:16
rpittau--xall does look like a bit overkill12:17
arne_wiebalckyeah12:17
dtantsurmaybe just --all?12:17
dtantsurI want to leave something useful in logs12:17
arne_wiebalckI am not sure smartctl computes the return value or if that is sth that xall reports as well somewhere ...12:17
rpittauwe're probably ok with just --all, let's give that a try ?12:21
arne_wiebalck--all and --xall include -H, so the return code should be the same in both cases12:24
rpittauyeah12:25
arne_wiebalckboth meaning: we can run --(x)all and rely on the bit map, no need to call --health12:25
arne_wiebalckI think this is my answer to your question dtantsur ;-)12:26
dtantsurokie, thanks!12:28
opendevreviewMerged openstack/bifrost master: Add a benchmark job for ironic  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/79270512:53
rpittausee ya later! o/12:57
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TheJuliaGood morning Ironic13:12
iurygregorygood morning TheJulia =)13:14
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opendevreviewMerged openstack/ironic master: Follow-up to  Include bios registry fields in bios API  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79390713:23
TheJuliait breaks my brain a little that it is tuesday13:23
TheJuliaAlso that my first meeting is in a half hour :(13:23
dtantsurmorning TheJulia13:39
iurygregorybetter Tuesday than Monday I would say =)13:43
arne_wiebalckGood morning TheJulia o/13:46
opendevreviewDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Check the target root device with smartctl  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79395313:56
dtantsurokay, this should be it now ^^ would be good to fit into the release13:57
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TheJuliaAny chance I can get eyes on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/793453 ?14:46
TheJuliait is of course different and needs to be backported14:46
iurygregoryTheJulia, looking now14:46
TheJuliabut the commit message should explain it14:46
iurygregorythe note does help to explain why we have the change in write-image.sh :D14:47
iurygregory+214:48
TheJuliaokay, I've got a downstream blocker that I need to get that merged for and backported :(14:51
arne_wiebalckOn a tyoical prod node in our deployment, this will reduce the arenas from 32 to 3 ... seems like a drastic reduction ... any known side-effects?14:52
arne_wiebalcks/tyoical/typical/14:53
TheJulia32 for how many cores14:54
TheJuliaby default, it is 8 * CPU core count * memory footprint14:54
arne_wiebalck4 cores14:54
TheJuliano, basically if it is out of arenas, the process should just hold on the lock being released instead of trying to malloc an entirely new arena14:54
TheJuliathe second arena only gets created when one thread tries to access memory locked space of the first thread14:55
arne_wiebalckso, the parallelism will go down?14:56
TheJuliaon physical cores in a server, that shouldn't really be an issue since you don't have the variability of one core getting other work scheduld on it and a thread getting delayed out of view from the OS14:56
arne_wiebalckthe controller is a VM14:56
TheJuliano, it won't. If your creating additional arenas, then your machine is already on a path to running out of memory or the process running out of memory.14:57
TheJuliaarne_wiebalck: iscsi deploy?14:57
arne_wiebalckiscsi as well as direct14:57
arne_wiebalckimage conversion so far was an issue when instantiation 10s or 100s of nodes, so I am wondering if this will reduce the number of instances I can create in parallel14:58
TheJuliaOkay, so we've already got backports ?merged? for ironic-lib w/r/t iscsi deploy because the issue we've been able to identify is should this cross-thread locking start occuring, then the process runs out of memory rapidly14:58
arne_wiebalckok14:58
TheJuliaand it is really just malloc'ing to get a new arena to abandon the old one14:58
TheJuliabecause the lock was hit14:59
TheJuliaso it is a memory leak in essence14:59
arne_wiebalckok, I see14:59
TheJuliaSo, it might actually help some of the parallel conversions because you could possibly hit similar cross-thread issues on controllers14:59
TheJuliathis should keep it under the 1-2gb memory limit for the process which is still needed because qemu-img is also handling an untrusted byte stream and the input data *can* depending on what is present cause it to try and consume as much memory as possible for block reassembly.15:00
TheJuliabut humans have to be *super* evil to do stuff like that, it is not normal in any regards15:00
arne_wiebalckok, thanks for the explanation!15:01
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opendevreviewBob Fournier proposed openstack/ironic master: Add a section to redfish doc for BIOS registry fields  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79398215:02
* arne_wiebalck will start to sprinkle new nodes across conductor groups anyway soon so make use of all controllers in parallel, rather than moving new nodes all into the same group15:02
* TheJulia had a database platform that would use cross-cpu shared memory.... and would actually crash on virtual machines because of it.15:02
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dtantsurTheJulia: FYI when a patch is stuck on a merged dependency, use an additional W+1, recheck won't help15:05
TheJuliadtantsur: not all the time, but just kind of hoping it would unwedge it without having to go all the way back through review15:06
dtantsurTheJulia: you're a core, you can just add one more W+115:06
dtantsurit's trickier for non-core people15:06
* TheJulia is conflicted about just re +2+A it since changing it would also drop all reviews15:06
opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: Add bifrost-benchmark-ironic job  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79270615:07
TheJuliadone15:08
dtantsurTheJulia: you didn't have to reupload the patch..15:08
TheJuliato change the topic to remove the dependency tag which it didn't gracefully, I do15:08
dtantsuryeah, but you don't have to remove the dependency (and changing topic doesn't require re-uploading)15:09
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dtantsurthis is what I'm trying to hint at: adding another W+1 triggers re-verification of the dependency15:09
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dtantsureven if there is already a W+1 present from another core15:09
TheJuliawell, at least it is better than github15:10
dtantsurno objections :)15:10
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opendevreviewDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Check the target root device with smartctl  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79395315:14
NobodyCamGood Morning Ironic folks!15:17
arne_wiebalckhey NobodyCam o/15:18
NobodyCamhey hey Good Morning arne_wiebalck o/15:19
iurygregorymorning NobodyCam o/15:19
NobodyCamI posted a repo last week with several older hardware drivers for cent8 may be of interest for you15:19
NobodyCammorning iurygregory o/15:20
arne_wiebalckNobodyCam: Thanks! It is not so much I cannot get hold of the drivers in general, it is more that they may not exist for newer versions of kernels/OS I use for the IPA image ... which means I would need to pin a successful (older) image to the node ... which will only get me so far as the IPA in that image ages as well.15:25
NobodyCam++15:27
arne_wiebalckWhile I did have nodes which ended in dracut emergency shells, I did not have nodes yet which I could not clean due to the IPA image not being able to see the disks ... but I guess this may happen at some point.15:29
TheJuliaeyes on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/790142 would be nice :)15:34
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opendevreviewDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Improve agent_client logging  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79399515:46
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opendevreviewDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Stop accepting duplicated configdrive  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79047116:07
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iurygregoryTheJulia, it's on my list for today =) I will look after dinner16:26
TheJuliaThanks16:26
dtantsurg'night folks!16:28
opendevreviewMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/wallaby: Limit qemu-img execution arenas  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79345316:30
iurygregoryTheJulia, re ^ you need in other stable branches right? if you push the backports I can approve without problems16:31
arne_wiebalck iurygregory TheJulia while you're updating stable branches: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/790672 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/790671 ;)16:43
arne_wiebalckbye everyone o/16:43
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TheJuliaDo we need to review jam today?16:58
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JayFI won't be at the jam, sorry17:01
TheJuliaNo worries, I'm on endless hold with a government agency at the moment17:01
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opendevreviewBob Fournier proposed openstack/ironic master: Trivial: Fix version number in comment  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79402518:49
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opendevreviewMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/wallaby: Software RAID: RAID the ESPs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79067119:11
opendevreviewMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/victoria: Software RAID: RAID the ESPs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79067219:11
opendevreviewMerged openstack/ironic master: Secure RBAC - Efficent node santiziation  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79014219:12
opendevreviewMerged openstack/ironic master: Add bifrost-benchmark-ironic job  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79270619:13
opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic stable/wallaby: Secure RBAC - Efficent node santiziation  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79392919:23
opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/victoria: Limit qemu-img execution arenas  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79403019:26
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iurygregoryMERGE ALL THE THINGS :D19:29
opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/ussuri: Increase the memory limit for qemu-img  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79393019:30
opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/train: Increase the memory limit for qemu-img  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79393119:31
rpiosoGood morning, ironicers :-)19:31
opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/ussuri: Limit qemu-img execution arenas  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79403319:34
iurygregorymorning rpioso19:34
opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/train: Limit qemu-img execution arenas  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79403419:35
iurygregorychain of patches :D19:36
rpiosoiurygregory: o/19:36
TheJuliaI proposed the memory size backports along with the memory arenas change for ipa down to train19:37
iurygregoryyeah I noticed19:39
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TheJuliaiurygregory: if you want to +2A the memory ulimit changes, I think that will be fine.19:40
TheJuliasince my backporting them gets considered as a +219:41
iurygregoryTheJulia, yeah doing now19:41
iurygregoryCI will probably report in 2hrs and I will be around to +W (time to watch netflix :D)19:44
NobodyCamanyone happen to know off the tops of there head, how / where we handle dns for a remote conductor group?19:48
NobodyCams/dns/dhcp/ ;p19:50
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TheJuliaNobodyCam: neutron connected? or not neutron connected?20:00
NobodyCamconnected20:00
NobodyCamgoing to need a neutron node in the remote location too :'20:01
NobodyCam(20:01
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TheJuliaml2 integrated... or not?20:12
NobodyCamlooks like yes20:14
NobodyCamdo we have any configuration guides for remote conductors?20:22
NobodyCamI'm trying to avoid setting up a whole region for the remote location20:26
TheJulianot exactly, do you have a dedicated cleaning network for that remote location?20:32
TheJulianot exactly being the guide difference20:34
TheJuliaand is the neutron present for that remote location already aware of its physical networks20:34
NobodyCamNeutron is aware of the network, as of me typing this there is no neutron in the remote location20:37
NobodyCamwas hoping it could be something like install neutron-dhcp-agent on the remote conductor and call it a day20:41
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trandlesQuestion about IPA (I think?): I'm doing a tripleo (RHOSP) install, which means RHEL8. I have a server with the root disk hanging off a megaraid_sas device, which means I have to add back the megaraid_sas driver. I did that in the IPA ramdisk, it sees the drives and installs the overcloud_full image to the correct drive. I'd modified the overcloud_full image with the21:18
trandlesmegaraid_sas device and the full modules.alias file. I've also modified the overcloud_full initrd with the megaraid_sas driver. After deploy the machine reboots, grub is fine, it starts booting but dracut in the initrd can't find the drive. It might not be an IPA issue, but I can't figure out why the initrd installed by IPA doesn't seem to have the driver set up correctly.21:18
TheJuliaNobodyCam: so technically you'd need a neutron agent that was aware of the physnet and setup on the remote, and as long as the conducotr config points to the proper network and the remote is also aware of it, then it should just work...21:29
TheJuliaNobodyCam: and by just work I mean your networking stars align21:29
TheJuliatrandles: did you rebuild the ramdisk image for the partition image?21:30
NobodyCam:) woot21:30
trandlesTheJulia: rebuild the /boot/initramfs-blah-blah in the overcloud_full image?21:31
TheJuliaNobodyCam: and if your doing switch port toggling, your  neutron endpoint would need to be aware of things21:31
TheJuliatrandles: *and* extract that initramfs from with-in the image21:32
TheJuliabecause your writing a partition image out by default unless your building a whole disk image to deploy21:32
trandlesTheJulia: I'm using the overcloud_full image that RHAT distributes via RPM21:32
TheJuliaat which point, the ramdisk needs to be aware of the driver... and I guess dracut might need to know more :\21:32
NobodyCamThank you TheJulia as always your wisdom is the guiding light I strive to follow21:33
* TheJulia gives NobodyCam a look21:33
NobodyCam:)21:33
trandlesI modified that image and also the initramfs that comes with it, but I didn't _replace_ the /boot/initramfs in the image itself.21:33
trandlesI didn't know if IPA ran dracut to write a new initramfs on the partition as part of its install work.21:34
trandlesSounds like no?21:34
TheJuliatrandles: no, ipa does not run dracut so yes, update the one in the image21:34
TheJuliatrandles: sounds like you might be running a whole disk iamge?21:35
TheJuliaWe're trying to push osp to using a whole disk image by default21:35
trandlesTheJulia: ok, thanks for the pointer. And if you can get someone to put those drivers back in RHEL8 you could probably make a reasonable demand for free lifetime of beer from a lot of people. ;)21:35
kkillsfirstHello, I am about to start working with the Ironic repo. Is there a preferred operating system that I should use? Most of experience is in Ubuntu but I am versatile.21:42
TheJuliakkillsfirst: ubuntu is good21:42
TheJuliakkillsfirst: fwiw, the bulk of upstream CI uses ubuntu21:42
NobodyCamI like ubuntu, mainly because Devstack likes Ubuntu21:42
kkillsfirstThank you for the info. :)21:44
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opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: Only return the requested fields  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79227422:05
opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: Set stage for objects to handle selected field lists.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79227522:07
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opendevreviewMerged openstack/ironic master: Trivial: Fix version number in comment  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79402522:31
opendevreviewSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/train: Add fstab pointer to EFI partition  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/78288622:42
TheJuliastevebaker: so https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/782885 first ?22:48
stevebakerTheJulia: yes first22:52
opendevreviewJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: API to pass fields to node object list  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/79229622:53
TheJuliaheh, second should just arrive just after it22:55
opendevreviewVerification of a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent failed: Increase the memory limit for qemu-img  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79393122:58
opendevreviewVerification of a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent failed: Limit qemu-img execution arenas  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79403422:58
opendevreviewSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/train: Add fstab pointer to EFI partition  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/78288623:00
TheJuliablarg, ci transient connectivity failure23:03
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opendevreviewVerification of a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent failed: Increase the memory limit for qemu-img  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79393023:59
opendevreviewVerification of a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent failed: Limit qemu-img execution arenas  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/79403323:59
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