Monday, 2021-04-26

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dtantsurmorning ironic06:47
arne_wiebalckGood morning dtantsur and ironic!06:55
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iurygregorygood morning Ironic o/06:59
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-lib master: Remove runtime dependency on pbr  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-lib/+/78792207:02
dtantsurfolks, could you please review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/787613 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/785876 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/786033 ?07:03
iurygregoryI need more coffee before non-backport reviews hehehe07:08
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rpittaugood morning ironic! o/07:12
iurygregoryrpittau, o/07:13
dtantsurwelcome back to our time iurygregory :)07:13
iurygregorydtantsur, tks! I'm 50% back (jet lag will cause problems this week) XD07:13
rpittauhey iurygregory! :)07:13
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Remove runtime dependency on pbr  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/78792507:17
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/victoria: Add a call to "udevadm settle" in write_image.sh  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/78784809:01
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openstackgerritUemit Seren proposed openstack/sushy master: Implement fallback method for virtual media  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/sushy/+/78785909:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic stable/wallaby: Remove temporary cleaning information on starting cleaning  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/78784409:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic stable/wallaby: Fix fast track with redfish-virtual-media  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/78761309:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost master: Install squashfs-tools for Ubuntu image builds  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/78750510:05
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/bifrost stable/wallaby: Install squashfs-tools for Ubuntu image builds  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/78785310:07
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/bifrost stable/victoria: Install squashfs-tools for Ubuntu image builds  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/78785410:08
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openstackgerritUemit Seren proposed openstack/sushy master: Implement fallback method for virtual media  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/sushy/+/78785911:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost stable/victoria: Install squashfs-tools for Ubuntu image builds  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/78785411:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost stable/wallaby: Install squashfs-tools for Ubuntu image builds  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/78785312:16
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openstackgerritBob Fournier proposed openstack/ironic master: Retrieve BIOS registry and include it in bios API  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/78670712:23
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openstackgerritBob Fournier proposed openstack/ironic master: Retrieve BIOS registry and include it in bios API  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/78670712:27
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/bifrost master: Install DIB dependencies in bifrost-ironic-install role  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/75600512:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/victoria: Add a call to "udevadm settle" in write_image.sh  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/78784813:06
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TheJuliagood morning13:11
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rpittaugood morning TheJulia :)13:13
dtantsurTheJulia: morning13:30
dtantsurhow's 5G reception? :)13:30
TheJuliaFriday afternoon and Saturday were pretty much.. "fun"13:31
TheJuliaSunday I felt more human13:31
dtantsurThat's good13:31
dtantsuralthough.. you could also turn into a corgi?13:31
TheJuliano magical transformation powers.13:32
dtantsur:(13:33
TheJuliaJust a feeling of dread and too many things to do13:33
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dtantsur2x :(13:53
TheJuliareviewjam?14:01
rpittausure14:01
rpittauoh it's 4pm already///14:01
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iurygregoryI can't join (solving a problem with my old notebook with IT)14:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-specs master: Followup pre-defined system hw conf in single step  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/78064514:28
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TheJuliait was fairly quick14:32
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dtantsurrpittau: actually, maybe you were right and we should remove pbr from requirements14:54
rpittauoh14:54
rpittauwhat about the setup though ?14:54
dtantsursetup_requires in setup.py should be enough, I assume14:54
rpittaugah yeah I ignored that14:55
rpittauI'm switching between too many things today14:56
dtantsuralthough.. upper-constraints...14:57
rpittauyeah, that's the other thing14:57
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dtantsurmaybe it will work normally. dunno. it's a magic-and-pony territory for me now14:57
rpittauI ran requirements-check and it looks ok14:59
iurygregorymagic pony hehehe15:00
rpittaumagic-and-bear ?15:00
TheJulia#startmeeting ironic15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr 26 15:00:34 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'15:00
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TheJuliaOur growing agenda today can be found on the wiki.15:01
TheJulia#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic15:01
TheJuliaTo get started!15:01
TheJulia#topic Announcements / Reminders15:01
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rlooo/15:01
TheJulia#info JayF reminds us that the new ironic whiteboard is updated and in place.15:02
TheJulia#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard15:02
TheJuliaJayF encourages people to continue to improve it and in particular check the review dashboard links.15:02
TheJulia#info The Foundation is attemptin got schedule an OpenInfra Life webcast on the 29th for a PTG recap. If anyone is interested in joining that and representing Ironic, please ping TheJulia.15:03
stendulkero/15:03
TheJulia#info Additionally, anyone interested in contributing content to ironicbaremetal.org should see TheJulia15:03
TheJuliaFinally15:03
iurygregoryyay15:04
TheJuliaIt has been pointed out to me that referring to vaccination as 5G may make some people feel uncomfortable. We *do* have people who work for several telecoms in this IRC channel, so moving forward please avoid the nanite enabled microchip vaccination jokes.15:04
TheJuliaDoes anyone have anything else to announce or remind us of?15:05
TheJuliaI don't think we need to review action items, but I'm just checking in case15:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost stable/wallaby: [CI] Make Kolla job running again  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/78760515:06
TheJuliaNo action items so I *think* we can skip ahead15:06
iurygregory++15:06
rpittauyup15:06
TheJuliaDo we feel the need to review subteam status reports, given this is the week after the PTG?15:07
rpittaunot sure, probably need to define the new priorities first ?15:07
TheJuliaYeah, and I think that is all rooted in the change which needs attention on the repository15:07
rpittauyep15:07
TheJuliaso I think we can skip both and move forward to discussion for today?15:07
TheJuliaAny objections?15:08
iurygregorymakes sense to me15:08
iurygregory+115:08
dtantsuryep15:08
TheJulia#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/78414315:08
TheJulia#topic Discussion15:08
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TheJuliaJayF brings us a discussion today of extreme old patches and asks if we should mass-abandon anything 6 months or older?15:09
TheJuliaI have mixed feelings on this subject, but I wonder how others feel.15:09
JayFYeah, it just became obvious how many old patches we have when I brought up the dashboards.15:09
rpittaummm 6 months feels still too close15:10
dtantsurprobably? I have some patches that I intend to eventually continue15:10
JayFI think there are some patches that 100% should be mass abaandoned. I'm not sure about where we should set the line.15:10
TheJulialikewise though15:10
JayF12 months? 18?15:10
dtantsur18 month is what I'd use15:10
rpittau18 probably15:10
TheJuliaMaybe 1-ish year, but I still think we should skim the backlog to see if there is anything we want to keep15:10
dtantsurafter all, abandoned patches can be resurrected15:10
JayFabandon, IMO, is more about removing from review queue. You can always unabandon a patch15:10
dtantsuractually15:10
JayFif you haven't updated your patch in, say, 12 months -- what's the value in it *not* being abandoned?15:11
dtantsurwe can abandon everything 6 months old and ask the author to revive if they think it's useful15:11
iurygregory18 ++15:11
JayFthat's pretty much what I was thinking dtantsur15:11
dtantsurthe value is that I won't lose it in hundreds of my patches15:11
TheJuliaor a core spots it, I still think should skim through the items out there15:11
dtantsurbut I can instant-resurrect patches that I find useful15:11
rlooif someone submits a spec and they are waiting for comments, isn't it somewhat mean to just abandon and ask them to resubmit?15:11
TheJuliaI have no objection to 6 months really if that is the approach we take15:11
dtantsurmmm, I assumed we're talking about patches with negative feedback or merge conflict15:12
rpittauwhat about abandon automatically what's 12 months old or older and discussing 6 months to 12 months ?15:12
TheJuliarpittau: that is a good compromise15:12
TheJuliadtantsur: good point15:12
JayFBluntly, if I do this, I'm not going to discuss items beyond the line. I'm going to abandon stuff that needs it with a copy+paste message.15:12
dtantsurI don't think we should abandon patches that are all green (still)15:12
JayFbut I don't want to dedicate the time to IRC and get consensus on a small set of patches15:12
rpittauI agree15:12
dtantsuryeah, I don't think it's realistic to review all patches15:13
JayFso if we have 12 months as the line, then 12 months is the line15:13
dtantsurit's easier to resurrect those few we still find valuable15:13
JayFand if I see something that's all green along the way... maybe I'll just approve it (or review it properly) and see if it can get in15:13
TheJuliaI think 12 months is a reasonable line15:13
rlooi think we've had discussions in the past about how to encourage folks to contribute upstream, etc, etc, so... lets make sure we do this in a human-friendly way...15:13
JayFrloo: I'll make a kind message to put in there :) You can trust me to be human friendly ;)15:13
rloo++15:13
TheJulia:)15:14
TheJuliasounds like 12 months with a friendly message is consensus?15:14
rpittaualright15:14
TheJulia#agreed We will abandon patches not updated in the past 12 months to remove them from the review queue with a kind message to authors to resurrect them.15:14
TheJuliaNext item I added a little before the meeting.15:15
TheJuliaIs anyone interested in writing a PTG recap15:15
TheJulia?15:15
TheJuliafor Ironic itself15:15
JayFAs a note, I don't expect to include specs in these abandons :)15:15
TheJuliaJayF: sounds good to me15:15
* TheJulia hears crickets15:16
TheJuliaOkay, I guess I can string words together15:17
TheJuliaOnward to the Baremetal SIG!15:17
TheJulia#topic Baremetal SIG15:17
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TheJuliaarne_wiebalck brings us an interesting question today. arne_wiebalck would you like to elaborate?15:18
arne_wiebalckSure.15:18
arne_wiebalckWe have no topics yet for  the next meetings, so I put some proposals up.15:18
arne_wiebalckAnd this is ofc a call for suggestions :)15:18
arne_wiebalckAnd volunteers :-))15:19
dtantsurI can talk about IPA-builder15:19
TheJuliaThe first two topics, "Getting started with Ironic: Bifrost" and "Building images for Ironic: The IPAB (not automatic brewer)" sound interesting15:19
arne_wiebalcknice, thanks dtantsur !15:19
TheJuliaand sound like they could potentially be very short15:19
TheJuliaScaling and deploying topics are a bit... more complex15:19
arne_wiebalckYeah, and we could maybe reuse some of this for the website :)15:20
TheJuliaexactly, so more thought is definitely required for htose15:20
TheJulia"Realities of scaling ironic, what to know!"15:20
arne_wiebalckAny volunteer for a bifrost intro/demo?15:20
TheJuliaI'm personally okay with fairly short clips too, even something just two to three minutes long could be awesome15:20
arne_wiebalckagree15:21
TheJuliaI guess I could or if someone wants to partner up I can talk about the history of it while the example is running or whatever15:21
arne_wiebalckOk, that is mostly it for the SIG, I think :)15:21
arne_wiebalckthanks, TheJulia !15:21
TheJuliaSpeaking of SIG, I would love to see if there are thoughts on "appropriate metrics" to be collected, but maybe the scaling topic might weigh in on that15:22
TheJuliaI'll ponder scaling since that is such an abstract topic15:22
arne_wiebalckappropriate metrics for monitoring a deployment?15:22
TheJuliaWould it make sense to maybe have one talking about metal3<->ironic15:23
arne_wiebalckoh, that would be nice!15:23
* TheJulia wonders if dhellmann could be convinced to talk about it15:23
dtantsurI was going to write a blog post on ^^^15:23
dtantsuror we can ask dhellmann to talk, works for me as well :)15:23
TheJuliamaybe an underlying theme is "spread the load"15:24
TheJuliaarne_wiebalck: metrics as in reporting back to the community, but in-deployment metrics could be a thing15:24
* dhellmann tries to catch up with the scrollback15:24
arne_wiebalckTheJulia: ah, ok, basically what we discussed at the PTG15:25
TheJuliaand maybe a larger operator discussion is needed to gauge relative pain from the bottleneck points and comfort levels or needs to try and develop a semi-consistent/nice way15:25
TheJuliaarne_wiebalck: yes15:25
arne_wiebalckTheJulia: what to look at for a deployment may also be interesting15:25
TheJuliaAnyway, that is just an idea.15:25
TheJuliaarne_wiebalck: indeed15:25
TheJuliaAnyway, all ideas. We should revisit this next week.15:25
arne_wiebalckTheJulia: ++15:25
TheJuliaWe have no listed RFE's today, so I'm going to go ahead and move us forward to RFE review15:26
TheJuliaerr15:26
TheJulianot RFE review15:26
TheJuliaOpen Discussion15:26
rpittauwhen is the the next SIG meeting ?15:26
arne_wiebalckusually 2nd Tue of each month15:26
dhellmannTheJulia : I imagine we can come up with better people to talk about that than me, these days. dtantsur, zaneb, someone from upstream metal3 perhaps15:27
arne_wiebalckMay 11th15:27
rpittauok, thanks15:27
iurygregoryMay 4th would be better :D15:27
iurygregoryhehehe15:27
dtantsurheh15:27
arne_wiebalck:-D15:27
rpittauiurygregory: that's a sacred day, not sure :)15:27
arne_wiebalckmay the ironic force be with you15:28
erbarrcinco de cuatro?15:28
TheJuliadhellmann: thanks15:28
TheJuliaironic force, oh my :)15:28
TheJulia#topic Open Discussion15:28
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TheJuliaThere was something I wanted to bring up, but it has escaped me. Possibly it saw something, screamed and ran away15:29
rpiosoA simple question ... During in-band introspection/out-of-band inspection, for which hardware ports should ironic baremetal ports be created?15:29
rpiosoPorts without link?15:29
rpiosoWhat about ports which have been disabled via BIOS settings?15:29
TheJuliaInspector and ilo oob inspection offers knobs if memory serves15:29
TheJuliaI think it boils down to ports with links, but it has been a very long time since I had last thought of this or looked at it.15:30
rpiosoAnd, should in-band and out-of-band behave consistently?15:30
TheJuliawell, there are knobs15:31
TheJuliaso... *shrug*15:31
TheJuliaIt is a choose your own adventure path, I'd return the list and have similar decision point capability15:31
TheJulia"all", "all link active", or "what we boot from" seems reasonable and to be essentially what there is already15:32
TheJuliaof course, the last being a bit harder to determine15:32
* rpioso looks for knobs ...15:33
TheJuliaWell, I guess we can move to the final step of the meeting since no other topics are coming forth15:35
TheJulia#topic Who is going to run the next meeting?15:35
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rpiosoTheJulia: Thank you :-)15:35
TheJuliaThis is something we discussed during the PTG and I'd like to get a volunteer each week to run the next week's meeting.15:36
TheJuliaIf there are fears/worries, it is fairly straight forward and the irc bot commands are easy :)15:36
TheJuliaAnd also, the week of May ?10th? I may be completely MIA due to family stuff, so it will be unlikely for me to be able to run the meeting that week.15:36
rpittauTheJulia: I can run next meeting15:37
TheJuliarpittau: Thanks!15:37
TheJuliaWell, if there is nothing else, Thanks everyone!15:37
dtantsuro/15:37
arne_wiebalckThanks TheJulia !15:37
rpittauthanks all15:37
TheJulia#endmeeting15:37
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rpiosostendulker: Are there ilo knobs per ^^^?15:42
stendulkerrpioso: knobs per se?15:43
rpiosostendulker: Configuration settings which specify the ironic baremetal port objects to create during inspection.15:44
NobodyCamoh going to have to remember that the meeting is on mondays15:45
NobodyCamwe'll catch it next time15:45
dtantsurit has always been on mondays, no? :)15:45
stendulkerno. we create ports for all discovered nics15:45
rpiosostendulker: TheJulia suggested the ilo may have such settings, but my quick search came up empty.15:45
NobodyCamAny who; Good Morning Ironic folks15:45
rpiosostendulker: Is link status taken into account?15:46
iurygregorymorning NobodyCam15:46
rpiosostendulker: What about administratively disabled ports, say through BIOS settings?15:46
arne_wiebalckhey NobodyCam o/15:46
stendulkerno, we do not check for anything like tht15:47
rpiosoNobodyCam: Good morning :)15:47
TheJuliarpioso: stendulker I thought nisha had proposed something at one point...15:47
stendulkerI think its documented to delete unwanted ironic ports15:47
TheJuliaHmm15:48
TheJuliaYay for trying to remember things from 5-6 years ago15:48
rpiosostendulker: So, if it physically exists, an ironic baremetal port object is created?15:48
TheJuliarpioso: maybe that is the best take, just delete unwanted ports? I dunno how that plays into your use case models though.15:49
stendulkerHere its is https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/ilo/inspect.py#L30215:49
rpiosoTheJulia: We're trying to reconcile some behavior we've seen and how to address it.15:51
stendulkerrpioso: Proliantutils returns only 'actuive' ports15:51
stendulkeractive15:51
rpiosostendulker: Thank you! (I noticed the delete ports documentation :-)15:51
stendulkerFor Gen10 servers. For older servers we return all and ask user to delete unwanted ports15:51
stendulkerok15:52
rpiosoTheJulia: Coincidentally, it suggests another opportunity, perhaps small, to simplify the user experience.15:53
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rpittaubye everyone! o/15:55
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TheJuliaahh, that makes more sense then15:57
TheJuliarpioso: can make sense, I suggest, however your framing the larger discussion, supply all of the context possible, not to necessarily focus on a predetermined solution as context varies so much from one case to the next.15:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Follow up to add iDRAC management via Redfish  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/78477516:09
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TheJuliaAny thoughts if we have a outreach section to the meeting agenda?16:27
TheJulia* Any conferences coming up?16:27
TheJulia* Mentorships/Mentees - Any help needed?16:27
TheJulia* News to be published?16:27
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dtantsurinteresting idea16:30
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dtantsurmmm, no anaconda deploy docs?16:34
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dtantsurthis is why I usually want to have patches come with the docs :-/16:35
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dtantsurTheJulia: is this up-to-date on RBAC? https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/admin/node-multitenancy.html16:38
JayFdtantsur: anaconda docs and ci are not forgotten :)16:43
dtantsurJayF: this is great, but we have released wallaby already16:43
JayFTheJulia: +116:43
dtantsurI'm going to present wallaby news on Wednesday and say "we don't have any documentation for this feature many of you are interested in"16:44
JayFThere was a concerted effort by many cores to get it merged in the state it's in -- without docs, ci, or configdrive. If it wasn't desired to be released in that state we shouldn't have done that push :(16:44
dtantsurwe shouldn't have, and I'll get back to the habit of -1'ing major patches without docs16:44
arne_wiebalckI started to look into burn-in steps (https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007523). Checking with our hardware experts, the main thing to control/configure would be the time such a burn-in clean-step would run. While server side config options seem too static (as hard to change), would it be an option to set on the node and if yes: where should that go?16:47
dtantsurdriver_info?16:47
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: yeah, was thinking this as well16:47
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: I saw other similar options go to driver_internal_info16:48
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: this is read-only in the API16:48
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: like the disk erasure control16:48
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: ah, ok16:48
dtantsuryeah, they come from the configuration and are stored there temporary for... some reason16:48
arne_wiebalck:)16:48
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: I'll go with driver_info for now, thanks!16:49
* arne_wiebalck started stress-ng and brought the server down :)16:49
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: https://miro.medium.com/max/1274/1*ON_d7DWgW8g8uu3EBntfNw.png16:53
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: :-D16:56
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TheJuliaw/r/t anaconda docs, there was also this attempt to try and document it all in the release note which we went 'uhh, no', the details just didn't get picked up and moved over really.17:35
NobodyCamGood morning folks17:36
TheJuliaGood morning!17:36
NobodyCamSorry for the late reply. Got pulled in to a new hire orientation meeting17:36
NobodyCamMorning TheJulia17:36
* TheJulia hopes Arun is safe17:37
TheJuliaNobodyCam: congrats on the new job!17:37
TheJuliaNow, take over the world alrady!17:37
TheJuliaalready17:37
NobodyCamLoL 😂17:38
dtantsur++17:39
dtantsurhi and congrats!17:39
NobodyCamThank you dtantsur17:40
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dtantsur|afko/17:41
* TheJulia builds the "priorities" doc and hopes it is good17:45
TheJuliadoh!17:45
JayFNobodyCam: where are ya at now?17:49
NobodyCamNvidia17:50
NobodyCamHey hey JayF long time17:50
JayFOh nice, congratulations!17:50
JayFIf you need any burn-in testers for any of those sweet sweet graphics cards, I'm your guy lol17:50
NobodyCamLoL17:51
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Xena themes  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/78414317:56
iurygregoryI will be happy to test some graphics cards XD17:56
NobodyCamLoL. Actually that is the department I will be in. We run the lab for all the new unreleased hardware17:59
* TheJulia notes the new card line starts behind her wife who I think asked first... I think.17:59
iurygregoryso we can complain to you :D17:59
TheJuliarutro17:59
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NobodyCam😝 LoL18:00
arne_wiebalckbye everyone, see you tomorrow o/18:01
NobodyCamNight arne_wiebalck18:01
* TheJulia raises an eyebrow at the website18:05
TheJuliawut git, why18:09
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* TheJulia runs apt-get upgrade and hopes the desktop lives afterwards21:28
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jandersgood morning Ironic o/23:41
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