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| iurygregory | good morning Ironic! | 06:31 |
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| janders | good morning iurygregory o/ | 06:34 |
| janders | how was your weekend? :) | 06:34 |
| iurygregory | hey janders o/ | 06:34 |
| iurygregory | not that good hahaha, I'm a bit sick because of the crazy weather Brno has XD | 06:35 |
| janders | :( sorry to hear | 06:35 |
| janders | is it jumping between cold and warm, or is it just unusually cold? | 06:36 |
| iurygregory | between cold only | 06:37 |
| iurygregory | but sometimes it's like 16 to 6 | 06:37 |
| iurygregory | afaik this is not normal during this time of the year... | 06:38 |
| janders | yeah that doesn't sound typical to that part of the World | 06:38 |
| iurygregory | but otherwise, doing good =) | 06:44 |
| janders | that's good :) | 06:44 |
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| arne_wiebalck | Good morning, ironic! | 06:51 |
| iurygregory | morning arne_wiebalck o/ | 06:52 |
| arne_wiebalck | hey iurygregory o/ | 06:52 |
| janders | good morning arne_wiebalck o/ | 06:53 |
| arne_wiebalck | hey janders o/ | 06:54 |
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| rpittau | good morning ironic! o/ | 07:35 |
| iurygregory | morning rpittau o/ | 07:35 |
| rpittau | hey iurygregory :) | 07:35 |
| janders | good morning rpittau o/ | 07:37 |
| rpittau | hey janders :) | 07:37 |
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| rpittau | mmmm gerritbot took the day off ? | 08:36 |
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| * gerritbot need some coffee :) | 08:39 | |
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| Qianbiao | hello ironic | 08:40 |
| Qianbiao | good morning | 08:40 |
| rpittau | :) | 08:40 |
| rpittau | hey Qianbiao :) | 08:41 |
| Qianbiao | hey \o/ | 08:41 |
| janders | good morning Qianbiao | 08:42 |
| rpittau | if anyone has a minute, let's move to kernel 5.x in tinyipa! :) https://review.opendev.org/711647 | 08:43 |
| patchbot | patch 711647 - ironic-python-agent-builder - Use tinycore 11 to build tinyipa - 26 patch sets | 08:43 |
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| Qianbiao | Morning janders o/ | 08:45 |
| janders | is 5.2 twice faster than "good" old 2.6? :) | 08:45 |
| janders | that would make current versions even faster... | 08:45 |
| iurygregory | hey Qianbiao o/ | 08:45 |
| rpittau | ahah hope so! | 08:45 |
| Qianbiao | lol, should be 2.00001 good | 08:46 |
| iurygregory | rpittau, my bad I was looking yesterday and forgot to +W | 08:46 |
| Qianbiao | hey iurygregory | 08:46 |
| rpittau | iurygregory: hey no worries :) | 08:46 |
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| Qianbiao | Hello, is there a bug with cloud-init-datasource element in dib? | 08:58 |
| Qianbiao | it seems it generates a config file under /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d | 08:58 |
| Qianbiao | But in centos8 the default config folder is not there? | 08:58 |
| iurygregory | not that I'm aware of =( | 09:02 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic | 09:03 |
| dtantsur | woohoo, Monday, we're so happy \o/ | 09:03 |
| janders | good morning dtantsur o/ | 09:04 |
| janders | good news = this week is Recharge week | 09:04 |
| dtantsur | oh yeha | 09:04 |
| dtantsur | I'm ready to start my recharge day already | 09:04 |
| janders | so = it's a Monday with a Tuesday feel in a way | 09:04 |
| janders | +1! :) | 09:04 |
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| iurygregory | Recharge week | 09:05 |
| Qianbiao | Morning dtantsur | 09:05 |
| iurygregory | so we don't need to work the whole week?! \o/ | 09:05 |
| iurygregory | morning dtantsur =) | 09:05 |
| Qianbiao | hi iurygregory, you are answering my question? | 09:05 |
| iurygregory | Qianbiao, my answer was that I'm not aware of any bugs on the cloud init element =( maybe people on #openstack-dib have more info | 09:06 |
| Qianbiao | ok thanks. | 09:06 |
| Qianbiao | that channel seems not active btw :) | 09:07 |
| iurygregory | well it just take time for people to answer | 09:07 |
| iurygregory | I think most people are US timezone | 09:07 |
| Qianbiao | oh i see. | 09:07 |
| dtantsur | there are two of them, I think | 09:08 |
| Qianbiao | does glean support metadata service? | 09:12 |
| Qianbiao | may i switch to use simple-init instead of cloud-init | 09:13 |
| dtantsur | doesn't seem to from a quick reading of readme | 09:13 |
| Qianbiao | yes, did not find anything talking about metadata | 09:14 |
| Qianbiao | hi, anyone has a minute may give a workflow for: https://review.opendev.org/753730 https://review.opendev.org/753785 https://review.opendev.org/753786 | 09:25 |
| patchbot | patch 753730 - ironic-python-agent (stable/stein) - Fix: make Intel CNA hardware manager none generic - 3 patch sets | 09:25 |
| patchbot | patch 753785 - ironic-python-agent (stable/rocky) - Fix: make Intel CNA hardware manager none generic - 2 patch sets | 09:25 |
| patchbot | patch 753786 - ironic-python-agent (stable/queens) - Fix: make Intel CNA hardware manager none generic - 2 patch sets | 09:25 |
| Qianbiao | should be free to go, has been merged on main branch | 09:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenping Song proposed openstack/ironic master: Use TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE instead of obsolete UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE https://review.opendev.org/757521 | 09:44 |
| iurygregory | obsolete UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE ? O.o | 09:45 |
| rpittau | upper constraints are overrated | 09:45 |
| iurygregory | hahaha | 09:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | likui proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Add py38 test in tox.ini for victoria https://review.opendev.org/757069 | 10:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Riccardo Pittau proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client master: Use python 3.8 in functional tests https://review.opendev.org/757526 | 10:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder master: Use tinycore 11 to build tinyipa https://review.opendev.org/711647 | 10:22 |
| openstackgerrit | likui proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Add py38 test in tox.ini for victoria https://review.opendev.org/757069 | 10:23 |
| openstackgerrit | likui proposed openstack/ironic-inspector stable/victoria: Add py38 test in tox.ini for victoria https://review.opendev.org/757530 | 10:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sushy-tools master: Use wallaby jobs https://review.opendev.org/757469 | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Remove obsolete trusted boot doc https://review.opendev.org/757348 | 11:02 |
| janders | see you tomorrow Ironic o/ | 11:04 |
| Qianbiao | see you janders | 11:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Add possibility to configure application root https://review.opendev.org/757536 | 11:30 |
| openstackgerrit | likui proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Add py38 test in tox.ini https://review.opendev.org/757069 | 11:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/bifrost failed: [Train and older] Fix several CI problems https://review.opendev.org/749014 | 11:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Software RAID: Re-add missing devices https://review.opendev.org/756300 | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client master: Use python 3.8 in functional tests https://review.opendev.org/757526 | 12:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost stable/stein: [Train and older] Fix several CI problems https://review.opendev.org/749014 | 13:13 |
| QianbiaoNG | Hello, does Ironic support cloud-init from OpenStack Metadata service? | 13:14 |
| QianbiaoNG | it seems loading process is blocked by something: http://paste.openstack.org/show/798952/ | 13:16 |
| rpioso | Good morning, ironic | 13:17 |
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| iurygregory | my internet provider must be trolling me.... | 13:29 |
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| TheJulia | QianbiaoNG: if your using nova it will work but you'll need neutron's metadata service running on the subnet. if your doing ML2 physical network separation, you'll still need to forward traffic to the service somehow. | 13:46 |
| QianbiaoNG | TheJulia metadata service is ready i think. | 13:47 |
| QianbiaoNG | i can wget http://169.254.169.254 from ironic node | 13:47 |
| dtantsur | morning TheJulia, rpioso | 13:48 |
| QianbiaoNG | TheJulia confirmed, ironic does not support metadata service. | 13:48 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: o/ | 13:48 |
| QianbiaoNG | the Openstack datasource has conditions to run, ironic does not match the condition. | 13:48 |
| dtantsur | ironic has no relationship with the metadata service, it's purely between nova, the node and cloud-init on it | 14:03 |
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| iurygregory | good morning TheJulia =) | 14:09 |
| QianbiaoNG | dtantsur OpenStack datasource of cloud-init has pre-condition checking. | 14:12 |
| QianbiaoNG | it will detect whether a node is deployed by OpenStack. | 14:12 |
| QianbiaoNG | Unfortunately, ironic node does not match the condition. | 14:13 |
| dtantsur | I'm pretty sure some people used the metadata service with ironic | 14:13 |
| QianbiaoNG | dtantsur TheJulia https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/datasources/openstack.html#discovery | 14:14 |
| dtantsur | at the very least, it's a required for boot-from-volume | 14:14 |
| QianbiaoNG | Hmm, there must be something wrong. | 14:14 |
| dtantsur | but I haven't tried myself | 14:15 |
| QianbiaoNG | Or maybe it just does not support ramdisk node. | 14:15 |
| QianbiaoNG | dtantsur may u check the link https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/datasources/openstack.html#discovery | 14:16 |
| QianbiaoNG | Will ironic update any of the env. | 14:16 |
| dtantsur | QianbiaoNG: ironic cannot update DMI, there are real properties of your real hardware | 14:21 |
| QianbiaoNG | dtantsur yes, and the /proc/1/environ from ironic node is: HOME=/TERM=linuxvga=normalipa-collect-lldp=1ipa-debug=1initrd=ramdisk | 14:22 |
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| QianbiaoNG | what makes ironic node will never load OpenstackDatasource | 14:22 |
| dtantsur | mmmm, interesting, /proc/1/environ contains kernel command line items | 14:23 |
| dtantsur | you may be able to use that | 14:23 |
| QianbiaoNG | dtantsur :) yes, i am thinking of that. | 14:24 |
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| * dtantsur looks at our virtual media code and wants to scream | 14:35 | |
| * TheJulia raises an eyebrow | 14:36 | |
| dtantsur | we build a configdrive image.. pack it.. pass it on.. unpack it.. put files on ISO | 14:36 |
| dtantsur | all within the same few functions | 14:36 |
| dtantsur | WHY | 14:37 |
| TheJulia | cross deployment method compatability most likely | 14:37 |
| dtantsur | no, I think I'm not insane, we actually build a FAT32 image to pass one file into another function..... | 14:37 |
| iurygregory | ouch | 14:41 |
| dtantsur | I suspect it's a leftover from the times etingof wanted to pack the whole configdrive inside the ISO rather than only putting files there | 14:41 |
| dtantsur | iurygregory: do we have any sort of CI coverage for dhcp-less vmedia? | 14:43 |
| dtantsur | I'd like to make some changes, don't want to break it | 14:44 |
| iurygregory | haven't touch that much in the last 3 weeks =( (OIS presentation...) | 14:44 |
| QianbiaoNG | It seems the gerrit bot still sleeping... | 14:45 |
| iurygregory | he is on PTO probably =D | 14:45 |
| QianbiaoNG | :) | 14:46 |
| QianbiaoNG | dtantsur a long time patch, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752006/ | 14:46 |
| patchbot | patch 752006 - ironic (stable/ussuri) - opt: Enhance old stable branches to use latest pyt... - 7 patch sets | 14:46 |
| TheJulia | I'm glad wechat has a translate feature | 14:47 |
| dtantsur | QianbiaoNG: I'll try to get to it once I figure out the spaghetti code here | 14:48 |
| TheJulia | oooh https://review.opendev.org/#/c/755972/ merged | 14:48 |
| patchbot | patch 755972 - ironic (stable/victoria) - Fix inspection for idrac (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 14:48 |
| iurygregory | \o/ | 14:48 |
| iurygregory | Hallelujah | 14:48 |
| QianbiaoNG | dtantsur sure. | 14:49 |
| TheJulia | CI broke horribly a couple times late last week :( | 14:49 |
| QianbiaoNG | TheJulia You are using wechat too :) | 14:49 |
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| TheJulia | I've had it for a while. I really only use it to keep in touch with a few ironic operators in china. I woke up this morning and had a bunch of messages and often things can be very quiet for a month or longer | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [WIP] Simplify injecting a configdrive into an ISO image https://review.opendev.org/757598 | 15:00 |
| dtantsur | iurygregory, TheJulia, this is what I mean ^^^ | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | dtantsur, ack | 15:00 |
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| TheJulia | #startmeeting ironic | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 12 15:00:33 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 15:00 |
| TheJulia | Good morning everyone! | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 15:00 |
| rpittau | o/ | 15:00 |
| kaifeng | o/ | 15:00 |
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| ajya | o/ | 15:00 |
| TheJulia | Our agenda this week can be found on the wiki. | 15:00 |
| TheJulia | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 15:00 |
| stendulker | o/ | 15:00 |
| arne_wiebalck | o/ | 15:00 |
| TheJulia | We seem to be announcement heavy this morning, so if you have announcements be ready to raise them! | 15:01 |
| TheJulia | #topic Announcements / Reminders | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminders (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:01 | |
| TheJulia | #info Open Infrastucture Summit is *NEXT* week! October 19-23rd! | 15:01 |
| TheJulia | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/ | 15:02 |
| QianbiaoNG | o/ | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:02 |
| erbarr | o/ | 15:02 |
| TheJulia | #info The Project Teams Gathering is the following week, October 26th through 30th. | 15:02 |
| rpioso | \o | 15:02 |
| iurygregory | we will probably skip next 2 weeks of meetings? (or maybe only next week?) | 15:02 |
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| * dtantsur still has no clue about the schedule | 15:03 | |
| TheJulia | iurygregory: lets discuss that during the discussion period, if you'd quickly edit the agenda on the wikie :) | 15:03 |
| TheJulia | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 15:03 |
| iurygregory | TheJulia, ++ | 15:03 |
| TheJulia | #info We have a PTG etherpad, please add items in the next couple of days. After that I will try to break things into logical time blocks for scheduling during the PTG. | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/ironic-wallaby-ptg | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | #info Expect Victoria final releases this week. Hopefully nothing needs to merge to the stable branch and I just submitted ironic 16.0.1's release. | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | And last for me! | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | #info PTL on vacation the first week of November. | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | Does anyone else have anything to announce or remind us of this week? Or maybe for the next few weeks? | 15:05 |
| * TheJulia takes silence as no... | 15:06 | |
| TheJulia | Looks like we had no action items last week | 15:07 |
| TheJulia | Do we feel the need to review the subteam status reports? | 15:07 |
| TheJulia | since we're at the end of cycle and all | 15:07 |
| * TheJulia hears silence and guesses "no" ? | 15:09 | |
| rpittau | probably not | 15:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [WIP] Do not use RPC continue_node_deploy/clean in agent_base https://review.opendev.org/756354 | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | likely no | 15:09 |
| TheJulia | Okay then | 15:09 |
| TheJulia | #topic Priorities for the coming week | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priorities for the coming week (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:10 | |
| TheJulia | Above and beyond adding topics to the PTG etherpad! | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 15:10 |
| * iurygregory is wondering if we should change Victoria Priorities to Wallaby Priorities... | 15:10 | |
| TheJulia | Starting at line 124 | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | iurygregory: Likely :) | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | It looks like only a couple items merged over the past week, which makes sense for end of cycle. But we do have a number of proposed items starting at line 176 | 15:11 |
| TheJulia | If there are no objections I'd like to add them to the list for this next week | 15:11 |
| rpittau | sounds good | 15:12 |
| iurygregory | sounds good to me | 15:12 |
| dtantsur | no objections | 15:12 |
| stendulker | looks good | 15:12 |
| TheJulia | In particular, vendors who allow/enable users to use IPMI, I'd like some eyes on https://review.opendev.org/757198 specifically because to validate if the list selector number that is default (0x08) is correct or if it needs to be modified for your hardware in UEFI mode. | 15:13 |
| patchbot | patch 757198 - ironic - WIP: IPMI: Handle vendor set boot device differences - 1 patch set | 15:13 |
| * dtantsur sighs | 15:13 | |
| iurygregory | funny =) | 15:14 |
| TheJulia | it is a very le sigh topic but it does actually explain some various vendor headaches with ipmi, sadly | 15:14 |
| iurygregory | yeah | 15:14 |
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| rpittau | "standards" | 15:15 |
| arne_wiebalck | TheJulia: I can check with our hardware experts what they think. | 15:15 |
| iurygregory | evil numbers | 15:15 |
| TheJulia | arne_wiebalck: would be very very very much appreciated | 15:15 |
| arne_wiebalck | our users have IPMI access | 15:15 |
| * TheJulia started to add "le sigh" to the etherpad in reponse to dtantsur's sigh | 15:15 | |
| TheJulia | unfortunately there is almost no documentation out there of variations, beyond the occassional blog post so itmay be most folks just adhered to the standard and we're hitting ipmitool quarks then | 15:16 |
| kaifeng | the world "protocols" seems to have a better reputation :( | 15:16 |
| TheJulia | heh | 15:16 |
| * TheJulia will not suggest editing the wikipedia entry... | 15:17 | |
| iurygregory | https://xkcd.com/927/ | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | Anyway, silliness aside, it seems like we're goot to proceed to the Baremetal SIG | 15:17 |
| arne_wiebalck | First meeting took place, relatively low attendance, 8-10 people. | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | #topic Baremetal SIG | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Baremetal SIG (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:17 | |
| arne_wiebalck | Nice discussion none the less (I think). | 15:18 |
| dtantsur | I think 8-10 is actually not bad | 15:18 |
| TheJulia | Is the hope to do the meetings monthly or every two weeks? | 15:18 |
| arne_wiebalck | Will make some changes to the format. | 15:18 |
| arne_wiebalck | Monthly. | 15:18 |
| arne_wiebalck | If you're off first week of Nov, how about Nov 10? | 15:18 |
| arne_wiebalck | Also some distance to the summit. | 15:18 |
| TheJulia | Okay, If we can have the time and maybe discussion topic agenda available the week before, I'd encourage people tweeting it and posting to other social media to see if we can get more people to join our SIG meetings | 15:19 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 15:19 |
| arne_wiebalck | Right. | 15:19 |
| arne_wiebalck | we need to define the next topic and the one who starts the discussion | 15:19 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, at least the next two weeks will be meeting heavy for most people | 15:19 |
| arne_wiebalck | that is what I thought, therefore Nov 10 may be ok | 15:19 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 15:20 |
| arne_wiebalck | ok, I will try to identify the topic and a victim ... erm, speaker | 15:20 |
| TheJulia | victims! | 15:20 |
| arne_wiebalck | that is it | 15:20 |
| TheJulia | Redundant Array of Independent Speakers | 15:20 |
| iurygregory | woot | 15:21 |
| arne_wiebalck | this is what we had last time | 15:21 |
| TheJulia | Anyway, I'm clearly hitting maximum silly | 15:21 |
| arne_wiebalck | worked | 15:21 |
| TheJulia | Are we good to proceed to Open Discussion? | 15:21 |
| arne_wiebalck | +1 | 15:21 |
| rpittau | let's | 15:21 |
| TheJulia | #topic Open Discussion | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:21 | |
| TheJulia | So iurygregory added two topics for open discussion | 15:21 |
| TheJulia | the first is should we skip the next two meetings | 15:21 |
| iurygregory | yup o/ | 15:21 |
| dtantsur | do we have anything on Mondays? | 15:22 |
| dtantsur | I guess on the PTG week we'll have enough talking to each other :) | 15:22 |
| TheJulia | Yes, there is actually talk at 15 minutes into our meeting on Monday | 15:23 |
| TheJulia | so I guess we should just cancel both meetings. Any objections? Concerns? Thoughts? | 15:23 |
| dtantsur | *shrug* let's skip them | 15:23 |
| TheJulia | Ack, I'll send an email to the mailing list. | 15:23 |
| TheJulia | Next topic appears to be a brewing epic battle of "openstack baremetal" vs "baremetal" | 15:24 |
| TheJulia | iurygregory: would you like to walk us through this? | 15:24 |
| iurygregory | sure | 15:24 |
| dtantsur | fight! | 15:25 |
| iurygregory | We had a plan to update our docs to use `baremetal` since it wouldn't be openstack specific (we have the standalone case) | 15:25 |
| iurygregory | so just to see if there is a consensus of our community if we should or not change our docs | 15:25 |
| dtantsur | what are the arguments against? | 15:26 |
| iurygregory | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756708/4/doc/source/admin/portgroups.rst | 15:26 |
| patchbot | patch 756708 - ironic - Update .rst files - 4 patch sets | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I was thinking more like we would compare the output of work product like in the show "Forged in Fire" here in the states...... | 15:26 |
| kaifeng | is Iury speaking of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756708/ ? | 15:26 |
| dtantsur | oh, so I should put back my battle axe? | 15:26 |
| patchbot | patch 756708 - ironic - Update .rst files - 4 patch sets | 15:26 |
| iurygregory | kaifeng, correct =) | 15:26 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: re your question: the problem is: 'baremetal' works for both standalone and nova cases, 'openstack baremetal' - only for nova case | 15:27 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: well, maybe not? | 15:27 |
| kaifeng | okay, I am not against s/openstack baremetal/baremetal/, totally | 15:27 |
| dtantsur | s/nova/full openstack/ but you get an idea | 15:27 |
| TheJulia | kaifeng: your raising a good point and I kind of feel like maybe the opposite idea might be good. | 15:27 |
| kaifeng | just I feel the doc is in an inconsistent state | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/stein: Fix: make Intel CNA hardware manager none generic https://review.opendev.org/753730 | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/rocky: Fix: make Intel CNA hardware manager none generic https://review.opendev.org/753785 | 15:27 |
| dtantsur | people read our docs and like 'what, I need the whole openstack to use ironic'? | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/queens: Fix: make Intel CNA hardware manager none generic https://review.opendev.org/753786 | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-prometheus-exporter stable/ussuri: Fallback to `node_uuid` if`node_name` is not present https://review.opendev.org/753065 | 15:28 |
| rpittau | the pure 'baremetal' command should work in all cases, so I guess we can remove the word 'openstack', just be consistent everywhere | 15:28 |
| TheJulia | I think it is ultimately good for us to peel back the openstack command references in the documentation and highlight that there is integration with the openstack command | 15:28 |
| TheJulia | Ultimately so we reach consistency in our docs and hopefully can get to a point where we're publishing some form of them on the newer website | 15:29 |
| TheJulia | which is where people would surely be confused by the "openstack" command. | 15:29 |
| iurygregory | yeah | 15:29 |
| kaifeng | if the two command can be used interchangeably, I agree to use `baremetal` instead of `openstack baremetal`, we just need a disclaimer that, hey, if you want to type more characters that is also fine | 15:30 |
| dtantsur | it's already a problem now e.g. among metal3 folks who don't realize it's safe to remove the 'openstack' prefix | 15:30 |
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| dtantsur | on the consistency topic, I agree that we probably shouldn't leave openstack commands hanging around in random places of our documentation | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | kaifeng: ++ They can be | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 15:31 |
| dtantsur | i.e. we should concentrate openstack-related aspects together | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | I agree with that | 15:32 |
| TheJulia | Do we seem to have consensus then? It feels like we kind of do in terms of meaning and basic direction | 15:32 |
| iurygregory | I also agree with that | 15:32 |
| TheJulia | excellent | 15:33 |
| TheJulia | So what else shall we discuss? Taking over the world? | 15:33 |
| iurygregory | for outreachy I think we can check if openstack baremetal was switched to baremetal, and we can have other task for outreachy or any contributor to concentrate the openstack commands in other place | 15:34 |
| iurygregory | this would make sense? | 15:34 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 15:34 |
| TheJulia | I think that makes sense, it would be a slighly harder task, but a good evolution | 15:34 |
| JayF | TIL `baremetal` exists independently of `openstack baremetal` | 15:34 |
| iurygregory | yeah | 15:34 |
| dtantsur | JayF: new in ussuri | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/ironic-prometheus-exporter failed: Fallback to `node_uuid` if`node_name` is not present https://review.opendev.org/753067 | 15:36 |
| JayF | dtantsur: of openstackclient? | 15:36 |
| dtantsur | JayF: of ironicclient | 15:36 |
| JayF | ah | 15:36 |
| TheJulia | it was a good solution for those that missed running "ironic" commands | 15:36 |
| rpittau | there's the ipa-builder conundrum aka we can't build rpm-based ipa ramdisks on focal using diskimage-builder | 15:37 |
| rpittau | I sent a mail to the mailing list and got some good replies, although we might want to decide which direction to take | 15:37 |
| rpittau | we already build centos8 on centos8, although we still use bionic to test devstack | 15:37 |
| * kaifeng would love to have it backported to train, it would relieve some finger movements in daily lifes | 15:37 | |
| TheJulia | The suggestion seemed to be that not using the minimal element should allow it to work | 15:37 |
| rpittau | I'm not sure, but I'll give that a try | 15:38 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: the baremetal command? cannot you just pull in a newer ironicclient? | 15:38 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: I think it would be worth it, it may mean we get to identify some extra "junk" in the images that can be purged before final packaging | 15:39 |
| TheJulia | err | 15:39 |
| TheJulia | that was meant for rpittau | 15:40 |
| rpittau | :) | 15:40 |
| kaifeng | dtantsur we are running train at the moment, upgrade client would introduce requirements | 15:40 |
| dtantsur | not using the minimal element has a risk of increasing the size quite substantially | 15:40 |
| rpittau | yeah, I'm mainly worried about the size of the final image, but I guess it's the easiest path to take at the moment | 15:40 |
| dtantsur | we need to check how much it increases the size | 15:41 |
| dtantsur | if the increase is so big that we cannot longer use it in the CI | 15:41 |
| rpittau | I'll check that this week | 15:41 |
| dtantsur | then it's pointless | 15:41 |
| JayF | I suspect even with the minimal element we have things we can remove from that DIB image. | 15:41 |
| rpittau | JayF: we already remove a bunch of stuff | 15:41 |
| dtantsur | JayF: we remove a lot of stuff by hand | 15:41 |
| dtantsur | most of the image right now is the linux-firmware package | 15:41 |
| dtantsur | which is several hundreds of megabytes | 15:42 |
| JayF | That makes a lot of sense | 15:42 |
| * arne_wiebalck has just removed this downstream ... | 15:42 | |
| dtantsur | arne_wiebalck: you know your hardware, you can do it | 15:42 |
| JayF | I have it on my 'eventually' list to see why they were so huge, that makes a LOT of sense | 15:42 |
| rpittau | arne_wiebalck: you removed the linux-firmware ? oO | 15:42 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: exactly | 15:42 |
| TheJulia | guys, I've got to go | 15:42 |
| JayF | and I don't know my hardware, so I probably can't :D | 15:42 |
| TheJulia | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bare Metal Provisioning | Status: http://bit.ly/ironic-whiteboard | Docs: http://docs.openstack.org/ironic/ | Bugs: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/75 | Contributors are generally present between 6 AM and 12 AM UTC, If we do not answer, please feel free to pose questions to openstack-discuss mailing list." | 15:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 12 15:42:48 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2020/ironic.2020-10-12-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2020/ironic.2020-10-12-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2020/ironic.2020-10-12-15.00.log.html | 15:42 |
| dtantsur | JayF: linux-firmware is needed for some NICs and disks behind some RAID controllers | 15:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | rpittau: yeah, was hesitating at first | 15:43 |
| dtantsur | when DIB started removing it, we got complaints within a couple of weeks | 15:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | rpittau: JayF : and some wifi adapters | 15:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: I imagine | 15:43 |
| JayF | Yeah; I have a pretty hetrogeneous hardware environment so I'll likely leave it | 15:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: i don't think this is a general solutin | 15:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | solution | 15:44 |
| QianbiaoNG | nice, can i just remove IPA package from IPAB to make it support ramdisk os? | 15:44 |
| dtantsur | QianbiaoNG: you can try, actually | 15:44 |
| QianbiaoNG | :) will do. | 15:44 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: should we also release IPA because of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757091/ ? | 15:46 |
| patchbot | patch 757091 - ironic-python-agent (stable/victoria) - Do not silently swallow errors in the write_image ... (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 15:46 |
| * dtantsur will probably just do it | 15:46 | |
| rpittau | ^ wanted to ask the same question | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | QianBiao Ng proposed openstack/ironic stable/train: opt: Enhance old stable branches to use latest python-ibmcclient https://review.opendev.org/757606 | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | QianBiao Ng proposed openstack/ironic stable/stein: opt: Enhance old stable branches to use latest python-ibmcclient https://review.opendev.org/757607 | 15:48 |
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| * dtantsur requested | 15:50 | |
| kaifeng | btw, we have some performance evaluation around 2k fake nodes, everything looks good but the port query seems to e an issue | 15:50 |
| iurygregory | dtantsur, seems like we need to deactivate dstat on openstack client for the ironic job https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/167a860cc0d940dd87bd937d462ae32c/log/job-output.txt#24124 ... | 15:51 |
| iurygregory | are you ok with this? I can push a patch | 15:51 |
| dtantsur | iurygregory: I have a feeling it was disabled at some point already | 15:52 |
| dtantsur | we'll also need https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757523/ to fix one test that started playing up | 15:52 |
| patchbot | patch 757523 - openstacksdk - Support waiting for bare metal power states - 2 patch sets | 15:52 |
| QianbiaoNG | kaifeng are u using a inspect&conductor cluster ? | 15:52 |
| QianbiaoNG | 2k is not a small amount. | 15:52 |
| dtantsur | oh, yeah, interesting! | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: what's the issue with the port query? is it because of joining the nodes table? | 15:53 |
| kaifeng | QianbiaoNG: not quite get it, inspect&conductor cluster means? | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: i.e. https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007789 > | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | ? | 15:53 |
| QianbiaoNG | use multiple condutor controllers | 15:53 |
| iurygregory | dtantsur, the last update in the jobs was to increase the ram to avoid KP https://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/master/.zuul.yaml#L237 | 15:54 |
| dtantsur | iurygregory: I hope that something was done to the base jobs.. | 15:54 |
| kaifeng | dtantsur: we have to convert node_id to node_uuid at api, we have a short path when querying ports per node, but not for the full port query | 15:55 |
| iurygregory | dtantsur, I see ( I also hope that they will do something) | 15:55 |
| kaifeng | so actually we needs two db query for getting one port data | 15:55 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: okay, so sounds like the story I pasted indeed | 15:56 |
| kaifeng | QianbiaoNG: yep, initially we have three conductors | 15:56 |
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| QianbiaoNG | kaifeng i see | 15:57 |
| kaifeng | port list for 1k nodes require ~30s, each node has one port. | 15:58 |
| dtantsur | it's fixable, just needs someone to sit down and flex their db skills | 15:59 |
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| kaifeng | the problem is object conversion, we just can't pass node_uuid directly to api I guess. | 16:00 |
| QianbiaoNG | :) i simple look at the code. | 16:01 |
| rpittau | good night! o/ | 16:01 |
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| dtantsur | kaifeng: have you seen the proposed diff in the story? | 16:01 |
| dtantsur | I haven't properly checked it, but it may be a start | 16:01 |
| kaifeng | dtantsur: do you have link handy? I am not aware of it | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007789 | 16:02 |
| QianbiaoNG | it seems it is not o-db-p coded. | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: I'd rather see us do proper db-level joins, but this approach may be an acceptable short-team fix | 16:03 |
| kaifeng | dtantsur: many thanks, will take a look | 16:04 |
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| kaifeng | QianbbiaoNG: there is an event at Oct 24-26, called ?hackson? located in changsha, are you going there? | 16:05 |
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| QianbiaoNG | kaifeng i am afraid not, my current project deadline is 11-8, | 16:06 |
| QianbiaoNG | still a lot things to care about | 16:06 |
| QianbiaoNG | dtantsur it seems we can not pass value contains " " like "product_name=OpenStack Nova" to kernel command line | 16:08 |
| kaifeng | space is separater :) | 16:08 |
| QianbiaoNG | yeah | 16:08 |
| dtantsur | no escaping works? | 16:08 |
| dtantsur | quotes, slash? | 16:09 |
| QianbiaoNG | not sure, i thought it does not support quotes | 16:09 |
| QianbiaoNG | but will give it a try | 16:09 |
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| dtantsur | QianbiaoNG: param="spaces in here" is acceptable according to https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.rst | 16:13 |
| QianbiaoNG | dtantsur excellent! ty. | 16:14 |
| QianbiaoNG | need to go, see you all. | 16:18 |
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