Monday, 2020-09-07

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stevebakerafternoon00:20
jandershey stevebaker how was your weekend?01:09
stevebakerjanders: really good, swam in the sea, saw a band. Did you get up to anthing?01:11
jandersgreat! :)01:11
jandersmine was good, too! managed to get out on the bike Friday evening and then again Sunday - it was great01:11
jandersI ended up sorting out a couple things around the house too - setting up the new laptop ended up being an excuse to redo cable management on both of our home-office desks01:13
jandersAs we kept adding monitors printers and wireless repeaters we ended up having 2-3 small powerboards stashed in each. I ripped all of that out and installed a single 8-socket powerboard in each - much much neater :)01:14
jandersI have a question regarding ironic standalone & introspection. When I introspect a node and try to access introspection data, I get this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/797523/01:17
jandersdo you know if this method is expected to work on standalone, or do I need to do things differently? (this is the tripleo/undercloud way of doing this IIRC)01:18
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stevebakeryeah, gotta keep on top of that birdsnest01:35
stevebakerjanders: you must have OS_ENDPOINT pointing at the ironic endpoint, but the inspection endpoint is different. You could either set OS_ENDPOINT for inspection calls, or override with --os-endpoint=http://${IRONIC_IP}:5050/01:38
stevebakerjanders: although I don't know how the baremetal cli handles endpoints, I've only used openstack cli01:38
jandersthank you stevebaker. I will have a look around.01:39
stevebakerjanders: baremetal cli appears to be osc-lib based, so that advice still applies01:40
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jandersinteresting! It looks like I'm investigating the wrong (non) problem01:49
jandersI re-ran redfish introspection of the baremetal and noticed some minor-looking errors in the log01:50
jandersso - I ran inspector based inspection against a VM and tried the command again01:50
jandershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/797524/01:50
jandersit works... so it seems it's not a standalone configuration issue with the CLI, but a redfish-inspection issue with my hardware01:50
janderswhich is interesting/frustrating (more frustrating I suppose) cause it's the third setup I'm testing against... this one got the furthest so far but I'm still hitting redfish breakage (first on sushy-emulator, then on HP real-baremetal and now on a Dell R640)01:53
jandersI will try to track down that error which shows up during inspection further01:53
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jandersokay... so the only error I see in the log is this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/797526/02:07
jandersbut having said that it seems that the inspection is succeeding: http://paste.openstack.org/show/797527/02:07
jandersbut then why isn't the data there... is it possible that the introspection data is stored differently for "inspector" and "redfish" inspect-interfaces?02:09
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* janders is reading the redfish OOB introspection spec again 02:10
stevebakerjanders: hmm, I'm not sure02:13
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: New argument validate decorator  https://review.opendev.org/74279505:06
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Add status_code argument to @method.expose  https://review.opendev.org/74367705:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Add @method.body decorator  https://review.opendev.org/74367805:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Duplicate trait validation with jsonschema  https://review.opendev.org/74577805:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Convert allocation endpoint to plain JSON  https://review.opendev.org/74367905:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Convert bios endpoint to plain JSON  https://review.opendev.org/74547505:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Convert chassis endpoint to plain JSON  https://review.opendev.org/74547605:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Convert conductor endpoint to plain JSON  https://review.opendev.org/74577905:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Convert deploy_templates endpoint to plain JSON  https://review.opendev.org/74578005:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Convert drivers endpoint to plain JSON  https://review.opendev.org/74186505:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Convert event endpoint to plain JSON  https://review.opendev.org/74662305:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Convert node endpoint to plain JSON  https://review.opendev.org/74782005:07
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/ironic master: Convert ports endpoint to plain JSON  https://review.opendev.org/75012005:07
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QianbiaoGood morning ironic.06:50
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arne_wiebalckGood morning Qianbiao and ironic!06:51
Qianbiaoarne_wiebalck o/, fresh monday.06:52
arne_wiebalckYep :)06:52
jandersgood morning Qianbiao and arne_wiebalck07:00
jandersI hope you guys had a good weekend! :)07:01
arne_wiebalckhey janders o/07:01
Qianbiaohey janders o/07:04
QianbiaoHello, anyone knows why coreos ramdisk does not have a download link for train version?07:04
QianbiaoNot provided after strein? https://tarballs.opendev.org/openstack/ironic-python-agent/coreos/07:05
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nam-estHi all, I have a question related to Ironic RAID support07:27
nam-estdoes Ironic currently support RAID for IPMI and Redfish hardware type?07:28
arne_wiebalcknam-est: Hi! You're talking about software or hardware RAID?07:36
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nam-estHi Arne, I am talking about software RAID07:37
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arne_wiebalcknam-est: IPMI works for sure, this is what we use in our deployment. I have not tried it with Redfish, but I do not see why it should not work :) The redfish hardware type allows for the 'agent' RAID interface which should be enough. Give it a try and let us know how it goes!07:41
nam-estarne_wiebalck: I tried with both Redfish and IPMI, but when I validated the nodes, I saw this message: " Driver ipmi does not support raid (disabled or not implemented)"07:46
nam-estarne_wiebalck: The same message appeared when I validated the Redfish node07:46
arne_wiebalcknam-est: Did you set the raid interface to agent?07:47
arne_wiebalckopenstack baremetal node set --raid-interface agent <BAREMETAL_NODE>07:47
nam-estarne_wiebalck: Oh, I manually set the interface to agent and now it can pass the validation. I will continue on testing if I can successfully setup software RAID on the node and let you know07:54
nam-estthanks for your suggestion, Arne07:54
openstackgerritNisha Agarwal proposed openstack/ironic master: Adds few of the security dashboard parameters to capabilities  https://review.opendev.org/74641607:56
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openstackgerritAija Jaunteva proposed openstack/ironic master: Add Redfish BIOS interface to idrac HW type  https://review.opendev.org/74924008:00
arne_wiebalcknam-est: yw08:00
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iurygregorygood morning Ironic08:07
Qianbiaomorning iurygregory08:17
QianbiaoHello, when deploy with pxe+iscsi, why boot device is reset to pxe+persistance after os installed.08:18
Qianbiaoif we set to pxe, it seems it will go into install workflow again.08:18
iurygregoryhey Qianbiao o/08:23
Qianbiaoiurygregory o/08:25
jandershey iurygregory o/08:28
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iurygregoryhey janders o/08:30
janderscontinuing my Friday's redfish challenges - I made a bit of progress today by switching to a Dell R640. That enrolled and switched to managable no worries.08:31
jandersredfish inspection seems to work too:08:31
jandershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/797527/08:31
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jandershowever - I am not able to access inspection data:08:31
jandershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/797523/08:32
jandersif I do the same against a VM inspected with "inspector" inspect-interface it works:08:32
jandershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/797524/08:32
jandersis it expected that introspection data is handled differently for "inspector" and "redfish" inspect-interfaces?08:33
jandersany pointers would be greatly appreciated! :)08:41
iurygregoryhummm08:43
iurygregorythat's strange for sure, since the introspection finished...08:44
jandersiurygregory it reported a minor issue (DEBUG level) but as you said it did finish so I'm not too worried08:44
jandershttp://paste.openstack.org/show/797526/08:45
janders^ that's the one08:45
iurygregoryoh ouch08:45
jandersit's a little worrying how many rough edges I hit just trying to enroll redfish kit and get feature parity with ipmi... makes me think of this one https://xkcd.com/927/08:51
jandersbut hey it's nothing we can't fix here right? :)08:51
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iurygregoryjanders, LOL08:53
iurygregorythat's a good one!08:54
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Qianbiaowhen ipa try to attach iscsi, 2020-09-06 08:53:48.077 1[  141.254023] iSCSI/iqn.1993-08.org.debian:01:45431c897e65: Unsupported SCSI Opcode 0xa3, sending CHECK_CONDITION.09:04
Qianbiaois it normal output?09:04
arne_wiebalckQianbiao: I think so.09:04
Qianbiaook thanks.09:05
arne_wiebalckQianbiao: Note that there upstream plans to deprecate iscsi.09:05
arne_wiebalckQianbiao: You may want to have a look into 'direct' instead.09:05
Qianbiaoinstead?09:05
Qianbiaodirect?09:05
Qianbiaook  isee.09:05
Qianbiaohttp is more simple.09:06
iurygregorygood morning arne_wiebalck o/09:06
Qianbiaoarne_wiebalck, i have another question.09:06
Qianbiaowhen deploy with pxe+iscsi, why boot device is set to pxe+persistance after os deployed.09:07
Qianbiaowhy not hdd09:07
arne_wiebalckQianbiao: Yes, with image_download_source=http for direct it should behave mostly like iscsi.09:07
arne_wiebalckQianbiao: After installation, your instance still boots off the network?09:08
Qianbiaoyes09:08
QianbiaoI am very confused about this.09:08
QianbiaoAnd i cant find the code location of setting boot device ;(09:08
arne_wiebalckQianbiao: Hmm, we have a local patch which enforces this as we *want* this is in our deployment ... seems that is not necessary (anymore) :)09:08
Qianbiao<iurygregory> ^^^ any idea about this?09:09
arne_wiebalckQianbiao: Let me have a quick look at our patch to see what we do ...09:09
Qianbiaoarne_wiebalck do u know the source code position of setting boot device after deploy?09:09
Qianbiaoi tried, but do not know where..09:10
iurygregoryQianbiao, atm no =( trying to finishing some tests here with devstack sorry09:11
Qianbiaoiurygregory I mean the reason of " when deploy with pxe+iscsi, why boot device is set to pxe+persistance after os deployed."09:12
QianbiaoNot the code pos.09:12
iurygregorywell the boot device is set to PXE or disk09:14
iurygregoryso maybe by default is set to PXE and if you want you can say to use disk09:14
arne_wiebalckQianbiao: what about here: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/agent.py#L39609:16
arne_wiebalckI think dtantsur|afk or TheJulia would be a more reliable source to explain how this works ... or should work :)09:18
iurygregorylooking at the code seems to be based on the configuration =)09:20
arne_wiebalckiurygregory: right, as long as manage_agent_boot is not set, the instance should boot from the disk09:24
iurygregoryyeah09:24
iurygregorybut also when you create the node you can set things09:25
iurygregoryhttps://opendev.org/openstack/ironic/src/branch/master/api-ref/source/baremetal-api-v1-node-management.inc#L13609:25
Qianbiaoarne_wiebalck thanks, checking09:28
Qianbiaoarne_wiebalck I did not set manage_agent_boot, this issue maybe due to my ENV. will check deploy log now09:33
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Qianbiaoiurygregory it seems the boot config file is pretty different. may it cause the double pxe issue?09:57
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Qianbiaohttp://paste.openstack.org/show/797537/09:58
Qianbiaoarne_wiebalck09:58
Qianbiaoiurygregory ignore it, focus on your task.09:58
mnasiadkamorning10:02
mnasiadkadtantsur|afk: https://github.com/openstack/bifrost/blob/3aae442b82792ba13635d5f228c64566e575916a/playbooks/roles/bifrost-ironic-install/tasks/install.yml#L25 - can we get rid of that? this play should only install packages - and it breaks Kolla bifrost container build, since we don't have systemd running during container build...10:03
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/bifrost master: Fix install on systems without systemd  https://review.opendev.org/75014610:11
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yoctozeptomorning10:14
iurygregorymorning yoctozepto10:14
yoctozeptomorning iurygregory10:14
yoctozeptoironic-cores: please take a look at https://review.opendev.org/750146 sooner than later :-) pretty please10:14
patchbotpatch 750146 - bifrost - Fix install on systems without systemd - 1 patch set10:14
iurygregoryyoctozepto, I would appreciate if you can create a storyboard for it since it seems we need to backport =)10:15
yoctozeptoironic-cores: a relevant question - could we put a kolla integration job in bifrost gate so that we can avoid this in the future?10:15
iurygregoryI was about to say this ^10:15
iurygregoryI think would be important to have a kolla job so we don't break =)10:16
yoctozeptoiurygregory: as a matter of fact I tried but storyboard did not like me, would be cool if you did for me10:16
yoctozeptoiurygregory: I mean it's painfully slow for me atm10:16
iurygregoryyoctozepto, sure I can create it can you send me some details (logs etc)10:16
yoctozeptoiurygregory: http://paste.openstack.org/show/797538/ appreciated!10:17
yoctozeptoiurygregory: kolla runs builds without systemd (as that's how docker runs builds)10:18
yoctozeptoiurygregory: obviously later the container is run with systemd as pid110:18
yoctozeptoiurygregory: it seems I got my hands on storyboard now; I can report it in there if you haven't started it10:20
iurygregoryyoctozepto, https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200811210:20
iurygregoryfeel free to update =)10:20
yoctozeptoiurygregory: thanks, looks great10:21
iurygregoryfrom my side I would say you can push the patch adding the kolla job (before we remove the systemd so we make sure it works)10:21
yoctozeptoiurygregory: it's pretty likely it works (as it's the only relevant part that changed); the reason I asked about whether you would accept such a job is that it needs to be designed first; bifrost would be the first cross-gating non-kolla project :-)10:24
yoctozeptoiurygregory: green light makes me more inclined to work on it10:24
iurygregoryyoctozepto, hehehe yeah10:24
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dtantsurmorning/afternoon ironic10:39
dtantsuryoctozepto: I'd welcome a non-voting (at least initially) CI job10:39
iurygregorygood morning dtantsur o/10:40
dtantsurmnasiadka: I was unsure about this bit, we had it in place for some reason, but I agree it shouldn't be there10:40
dtantsurlet's hope your patch works :)10:40
mnasiadkayeah :)10:40
mnasiadkadtantsur: looking at current zuul run, it seems to be working, so let's wait for the jobs to finish10:41
dtantsurit really should be, unless we have broken packaging somewhere10:42
dtantsura lot of stuff in bifrost is ancient :)10:43
dtantsur(and sorry for breaking kolla)10:43
yoctozeptodtantsur, mnasiadka: I'm pretty convinced it's my patch you are talking about10:49
dtantsuryoctozepto: you're not wrong there :)10:49
yoctozeptoand morning dtantsur10:49
mnasiadkayoctozepto: one polish guy, second polish guy, what's the difference? :D10:49
yoctozeptomnasiadka: I'm fighting the trend though10:49
dtantsurmnasiadka was the first to ping me in the scrollback :-P10:49
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yoctozeptoeven though I must admit I'm struggling with Chinese folks having one-syllable names :-(10:50
yoctozeptobut doing my best10:50
dtantsurnames are hard, we all need UUIDs10:50
iurygregorydtantsur, NOOO <O>10:51
dtantsuralthough, I must admit, autocompletion for UUIDs will be poor10:51
iurygregoryLOL10:51
dtantsuriurygregory: what did you say, b66b29d0-7fca-4c3b-a719-72a354a39f63?10:51
dtantsur:D10:51
iurygregory(this is happening because it's monday ofc)10:51
yoctozeptoxD10:51
iurygregorythis one I will pass XD10:51
iurygregorydoesn't have my luck number10:52
iurygregorylol10:52
dtantsurUUIDs are cheap, I can generate you as many as you need!10:52
iurygregorythat will cause problems when traveling10:52
iurygregoryimagine you need one passport for each UUID10:53
iurygregory<o>10:53
yoctozepto<only travels authenticated by fernet keys>10:53
Nisha_Agarwaldtantsur, ironic gates broken?10:53
dtantsurpassports?? x509 certificates!10:53
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dtantsurNisha_Agarwal: no idea, I've just logged in10:54
* dtantsur had Monday morning bouldering and intends to make it a tradition10:54
Nisha_Agarwaldtantsur, looks like they are broken....10:54
iurygregorylink for the patch?10:54
iurygregoryyay it's monday!10:54
yoctozeptobouldering sounds risky10:54
dtantsurany sport is more risky than no sport :)10:55
yoctozeptounless you get into health issues this way10:55
yoctozeptothen one could use some sport10:55
dtantsurexactly. a balance that is very hard to strike10:56
yoctozeptoI wouldn't exactly say it's very hard but surely it's often overlooked10:56
iurygregoryNisha_Agarwal, do you have a link for the patch ?10:57
Nisha_Agarwaliurygregory, Yes10:57
Nisha_Agarwaliurygregory, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746416/1310:57
patchbotpatch 746416 - ironic - Adds few of the security dashboard parameters to c... - 13 patch sets10:57
Nisha_Agarwalthis is my patch but gates were passing till Friday...and i had workflow yesterday on the patch10:58
Nisha_Agarwaliurygregory, today i just rebased the patch on master again so votes are still intact10:58
iurygregoryERROR: No matching distribution found for lxml===4.5.210:58
iurygregoryseems like an issue with the infra mirrors10:59
Nisha_AgarwalYes10:59
iurygregorymirror.ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.opendev.org10:59
dtantsurprobably recheck after some time?10:59
iurygregoryyeah10:59
dtantsurit happens10:59
Nisha_Agarwali have done a recheck after sometimes10:59
Nisha_Agarwalsorry10:59
Nisha_Agarwali have recheck just sometimes back10:59
Nisha_Agarwaldtantsur, iurygregory Thanks11:00
iurygregoryI just sent a message on #openstack -infra11:00
jandersdtantsur good morning/afternoon :) when you have time I would very much appreciate your thoughts on my (weird) Redfish OOB inspection issues11:01
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jandersI think I need to get a double portion of sashimi this week to make peace with Redfish... :/11:01
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janders(thinking about it sake may be involved in this too)11:01
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/bifrost master: Fix install on systems without systemd  https://review.opendev.org/75014611:02
dtantsurjanders: `introspection data save` is an ironic-inspector command and only works after in-band inspection11:02
dtantsurOOB inspection bypassing inspector completely and no data is saved11:02
yoctozeptodtantsur, iurygregory: CI all green; added tags as promised; please approve11:03
Nisha_Agarwaljanders, if u dont mind ....whats the issue u r facing11:03
Nisha_Agarwaljanders, just asking if i could be of any help11:03
yoctozeptothx dtantsur11:04
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jandersright! Thank you dtantsur (and Nisha_Agarwal ). I wasn't aware of this.11:06
yoctozeptothx iurygregory11:06
iurygregoryyoctozepto, yw11:06
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fmuyassarovHi everyone,11:07
fmuyassarovThis is again related to Ironic disk cleaning. We would like to first hear your opinion here and if needed I can open a story and be happy to do the contribution as well if the use case makes sense to you all.11:07
fmuyassarovFor example: I have 2 nodes and for one of the nodes I want to rely on Ironic’s default disk cleaning behaviour while for the second node I want the Ironic to clean up only the root disks of the node. Currently, if we disable erase_devices and erase_devices_metadata then all of the nodes will get their data left out or if we don’t disable then all of the nodes will get their disks wiped out. We would like11:07
fmuyassarov to make this configurable per node (not for all) for a user so that he/she could specify for which node all the disks should be cleaned and for which only the root disks.11:07
fmuyassarovThis discussion  is coming from Metal3, and we are going to discuss it with the Metal3 community as well. Because, at the end of the day it will be Metal3 BereMetal Operator (BMO) that will be talking to Ironic. Meaning that, we will have to enable e.g. passing some parameter from BMO to Ironic in order to achieve the desired cleaning procedure.11:07
jandersdtantsur in this case, I suppose for https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2008038 I just query the Redfish interface for MAC address information directly when it's needed, correct?11:08
dtantsurjanders: yep11:08
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jandersdtantsur thank you! :)11:09
dtantsurfmuyassarov: what's the exactly use case you're targeting? I mean, why exactly one node needs full cleaning, while the other - does not?11:09
dtantsurWhat I'm trying to understand is where it's an operator configuration or a user configuration (there is no difference for metal3, but there may be some for other consumers).11:10
fmuyassarovdtantsur, It is coming from upgrade use-case. For example, when we do the k8s cluster upgrade the nodes will be deprovisioned & provisioned. So, we don’t want to lose disk data. However, in normal scenarios we still want to make sure that while provisioning we do cleaning for all the disk. One way to do it is to have two ironic images (one for upgrade, another for normal use cases) with two differen11:14
fmuyassarovt configurations, but I don’t think it is a good idea to have two ironic containers running.11:14
dtantsurfmuyassarov: what's the reason of doing upgrades via reprovisioning?11:15
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fmuyassarovdtantsur, Because, we are using the Cluster API KCP (KubeadmControlPlane) upgrade feature.  And while upgrading, KCP deletes a Machine which will cause Metal3Machine deletion and finally BareMetalHost deprovisioning. So, AFAIK Metal3 doesn’t have a way to control that behavior since it happens on a higher level.11:29
fmuyassarovSo, it deleted a Machine and recreates a new one.11:29
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dtantsursigh11:48
dtantsurI wonder if we can somehow hold it from actual deprovisioning?11:48
dtantsurin addition to cleaning problems, it's also going to be time-consuming11:49
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fmuyassarovTBH I don't think that there is a way to avoid a BMH going through deprovisioning since KCP deletes the associated Machine object.11:53
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dtantsurfmuyassarov: yeah, but we could keep BareMetalHost in some new "pending" state until it gets picked again?11:56
fmuyassarovdtantsur, just a heads up. Here is an issue where we will discuss it with Metal3 folks as well. https://github.com/metal3-io/baremetal-operator/issues/62611:57
dtantsuryep, already subscribed11:57
dtantsurbut I still wonder if the upgrade problem has to be solved on some upper level11:57
dtantsurbecause reprovisioning can easily take tens of minutes11:57
iurygregoryNisha_Agarwal, feel free to recheck the problem should be fixed already11:59
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fmuyassarovYes, we could use for example unhealthy annotation on BMO that would avoid that BMH to be selected for while. However, I'm not sure if it is possible to attach a provisioned BMH to a new Metal3Machine.12:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost master: Fix install on systems without systemd  https://review.opendev.org/75014612:16
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jandersit's been a good day today - I finally have Redfish doing what I want it to in the lab - thank you all for your help again12:22
jandershave a good day all, see you tomorrow o/12:23
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iurygregorybye janders o/12:25
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openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/sushy stable/victoria: Update .gitreview for stable/victoria  https://review.opendev.org/75015712:26
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/sushy stable/victoria: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/victoria  https://review.opendev.org/75015812:26
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/sushy master: Update master for stable/victoria  https://review.opendev.org/75015912:26
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/sushy master: Add Python3 wallaby unit tests  https://review.opendev.org/75016012:26
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/bifrost bugfix/8.3: Fix install on systems without systemd  https://review.opendev.org/75016112:29
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/bifrost stable/ussuri: Fix install on systems without systemd  https://review.opendev.org/75016212:29
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Generate a TLS certificate and send it to ironic  https://review.opendev.org/74993012:32
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: DNM try without agent_verify_ca  https://review.opendev.org/75016512:36
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Simplify heartbeating by removing use of select()  https://review.opendev.org/74677413:43
QianbiaoHello, after install centos8(i guess it success), screen shows "Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)... ok"13:46
Qianbiaoany idea how to fix this?13:46
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iurygregoryyou probably need to append this to the kernel params13:51
dtantsurmmm, no13:51
dtantsurthis is not an error, just the last thing your kernel manages to output before it dies or hangs13:51
iurygregoryoh13:52
* iurygregory wonders if it's better than Error: Could not retrieve NBP file size from HTTP server.13:53
dtantsurthis looks more scary13:59
iurygregoryyeah14:01
TheJuliaGood morning14:02
TheJuliadtantsur: a rock climbing morning ritual sounds awesome14:02
dtantsur++14:02
dtantsurgood morning TheJulia14:02
TheJuliaFeels less quiet than I was expecting this morning14:04
dtantsuronly the USA is out, right?14:04
iurygregorygood morning TheJulia =)14:04
dtantsuralso, yay, one half of the ramdisk TLS works \o/14:05
TheJuliaYay!14:05
TheJuliadtantsur: usa, and I think today is also a holiday in canada14:06
iurygregoryBrazil also \o/14:06
dtantsurah, right. Except for rloo, we don't have a strong canadian presence, do we?14:06
TheJuliaI dunno, I mentally only track time zones14:07
TheJuliaAnyway I still wanted to hold the meeting for annoucements14:07
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Haunted330TheJulia I want to let you know today is a holiday in the U.S., so the meeting may have a low turnout14:10
TheJuliaIndeed :)14:11
dtantsurwe have quite a few people from EMEA and even APAC14:12
TheJuliaAlso greetings from California :)14:12
TheJuliadtantsur: ++14:12
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TheJuliahmm, my cat has turned my desk into a disaster area14:30
Qianbiaogood morning TheJulia14:32
Qianbiaoiurygregory add what to where14:33
Qianbiaodtantsur the screen does not print login message, and has no response to keyboard input14:33
dtantsurTheJulia: that's a CATastrophe!14:36
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iurygregory\o/14:41
iurygregorywelcome martalais =)14:41
martalaislol14:41
martalaisthanks!14:41
dtantsurhi martalais14:47
martalaishello dtantsur14:48
TheJuliadtantsur: that was awful! :)14:53
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TheJuliamartalais: welcome!14:53
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martalaisHi there, TheJulia! Thank you!14:54
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TheJulia#startmeeting ironic15:00
TheJuliao/15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep  7 15:00:13 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
iurygregoryo/15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
TheJuliaGood morning everyone!15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'15:00
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TheJuliaOur agenda can be found on the wiki as always!15:00
TheJulia#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting15:00
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TheJulia#topic Announcements / Reminders15:00
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TheJulia#info CFP is open for the Open Infra Summit's Forum component (The part where we discuss larger problems and possible solutions). If anyone has ideas, please feel free to submit sessions via the session submission tool.15:01
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TheJulia#link https://cfp.openstack.org/15:01
TheJulia#info Doodle regarding kexec discussion is available, however we've passed ~half the options at this point15:02
TheJulia#link https://doodle.com/poll/ihbbtns36b2rkhfd15:02
TheJuliaI'll try and close that out early tomorrow and get something scheduled15:02
TheJulia#info Ironic has been submitted to Boston University's open source mentorship program.15:03
TheJuliaSpecifically the proposed focus area is kexec + long lived agents, but is generally painted as needs of the scientific and research communities using ironic.15:03
TheJuliaWe should have news on that this week actually15:03
openstackgerritvinay kumar muddu proposed openstack/ironic master: Allow HttpImageService to accept custom certificate  https://review.opendev.org/74293615:03
iurygregoryawesome!15:03
TheJulia#info Reminder: Please self triage bugs!15:03
TheJulia#link https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/contributor/bugs.html#triaging-guide15:04
TheJuliaI think that is it for announcements/reminders15:04
dtantsurthis ^^ especially concerns cores and long-term contributors15:04
TheJuliaDoes anyone have anything else?15:04
dtantsurwell15:04
iurygregoryone more =)15:04
dtantsurwe have deadlines of ironicclient and ironic-inspector-client releases this week, I think15:04
iurygregorywe have a new contributor that will be adding the support for volume target on openstack sdk - martalais =)15:04
dtantsuronce more: welcome martalais :)15:05
arne_wiebalckAlso: doodle for regular bare metal SIG slot https://doodle.com/poll/3hpypw73455t2g2415:05
TheJuliaLooks like the client libraries are good for release (one in process of merging for python-ironicclient15:06
martalaisthank you! =)15:06
TheJulia#link https://doodle.com/poll/3hpypw73455t2g2415:06
arne_wiebalckthanks TheJulia15:06
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TheJuliaAlso, it is a holiday in North America today, so I expect we can't really reach full consensus today, but we can kind of bring awareness and so on and so forth.15:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Remove token-less agent support  https://review.opendev.org/74940715:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-inspector master: Identify accelerator devices during introspection  https://review.opendev.org/74528915:07
TheJuliaNo action items from the prior week so we can skip ahead to subteam status reports15:08
TheJulia#topic Review subteam status reports15:08
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TheJulia#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard15:08
TheJuliaStarting at line 300!15:08
TheJuliaAs victoria is quickly coming to a close!15:09
TheJuliaiurygregory: what i the latest on zuulv3/grenade. I know we dsicussed it last week15:09
iurygregoryTheJulia, the latest is the multinode grenade15:10
iurygregorygoing to update the whiteboard15:10
TheJuliak15:10
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TheJuliadtantsur: any luck with keystone folks regarding: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/747670/ ?15:11
patchbotpatch 747670 - keystoneauth - Add a missing get_auth_ref implementation for noop... - 1 patch set15:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/sushy master: Update master for stable/victoria  https://review.opendev.org/75015915:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/sushy stable/victoria: Update .gitreview for stable/victoria  https://review.opendev.org/75015715:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/sushy stable/victoria: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/victoria  https://review.opendev.org/75015815:11
dtantsurTheJulia: did not get to pinging them15:11
TheJuliaok15:12
TheJuliais this a blocker for us?15:12
iurygregoryif people are using http_basic and openstackclient yes15:13
iurygregory=)15:13
iurygregoryironic/inspector client works fine15:13
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Add an option to require TLS for agent callback_url  https://review.opendev.org/74991615:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost master: Use packaged iPXE ROMs for openSUSE  https://review.opendev.org/74789415:13
TheJuliaokay, so likely not a blocker, just a general thing that should eventually merge from the way I'm groking this15:14
TheJuliaI see dmitry has been super busy on ramdisk TLS \o/15:14
dtantsurI have, yes :)15:15
dtantsurit works, just needs rebasing now because of the agent token patch15:15
TheJuliaRegarding making CI manageable again. It feels like we have made some good progress there, It seems job renames/de-dupes are still kind of pending15:15
TheJuliadtantsur: awesome!15:15
TheJuliaI'll be reviewing that as my #1 review priority this coming week!15:15
TheJuliaiurygregory: is the ruling that things just kind of work with dhcp-less deployments?15:16
iurygregoryTheJulia, yes!15:16
TheJuliaFor privsep, I think we have to punt that to the next cycle15:16
iurygregorydtantsur, gave the idea to add a job15:16
iurygregoryI'm going to look at how we can build and image during CI run that would allow us to run dhcp-less15:17
iurygregorysince we need the simple-init element present15:17
TheJuliaiurygregory: if you wouldn't mind also adding a note to the feedback on testing to the section15:17
TheJuliaack15:17
TheJuliaok15:17
TheJuliamay be easiest with bifrost, fwiw15:17
iurygregoryyeah for privsep we talked 2 weeks ago I think ...15:18
iurygregoryTheJulia, ack15:18
TheJuliadtantsur: in-band done for the cycle?15:19
dtantsurdeploy steps? yes, I think so15:19
TheJuliaAwesome, definitely something to mention for the cycle highlights15:19
dtantsuryup15:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost master: Follow up on "Fix error 601"  https://review.opendev.org/74949915:20
TheJuliaWell, we could use a redfish interop profile update, but Richard has been heading that up and is away today due to the holiday15:20
TheJuliaI guess we're good to move on?15:20
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dtantsuriurygregory: are you going to work on vmedia support in bifrost?15:21
dtantsurjust clarifying because it's on my todo list as well, but not for right now15:21
TheJuliaHmm, that could be a very good addition15:21
iurygregorydtantsur it fits for the dhcp-less so I can do that =)15:21
dtantsuryeah, that's why I'm asking15:22
dtantsuryou'll need it if you want a bifrost CI job with dhcp-less15:22
TheJuliaGood to proceed to priorities for the week?15:22
dtantsuryep15:22
iurygregorywe are good to proceed I would say15:22
TheJulia#topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week15:22
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TheJulia#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard15:22
TheJuliaLine 140.15:22
TheJuliaGuess we need to clean that up first15:23
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dtantsuryeah, a lot of things have merged15:23
TheJuliaIndeed, and lots of items to add :)15:24
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TheJuliaso, I don't see much else and everything proposed to add at line 215 LGTM toa dd15:25
TheJuliaI didn't go through ironic too closely since we have TONS of patches that are presently failing CI :\15:25
TheJuliaAny objections? Any additional items to add?15:26
iurygregoryno objections from me15:26
dtantsurnone from me (as expected)15:26
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Accept and use a TLS certificate from the agent  https://review.opendev.org/74713615:27
TheJuliaThat looks good to m e15:28
TheJuliato me15:28
TheJuliaOnward I guess!15:28
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Accept and use a TLS certificate from the agent  https://review.opendev.org/74713615:29
TheJulia#topic Discussion15:29
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Generate a TLS certificate and send it to ironic  https://review.opendev.org/74993015:29
TheJuliaFirst item up for discussion! vPTG time slots15:29
TheJulia#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/7xp2pcbh1ncb15:29
TheJuliaI was thinking maybe trying to run a time slot from 2-4 PM UTC on say two or three days?15:30
iurygregorysounds like a plan15:30
TheJuliaAny thoughts? feelings? concerns?15:30
dtantsursounds about right. I guess 3 days works better15:31
TheJuliaWe also just had our midcycle last week and didn't have TOO much come out of that which would be larger discussions15:31
dtantsurI think we had 3 days the last time, right?15:31
TheJuliaI think we did 415:31
dtantsurmaybe. but you're right, with regular midcycles we need less PTG time15:31
TheJuliaYup15:32
TheJuliaAnyway, Next topic!15:33
TheJuliaraid_config behavior contract - Making the behavior non-destructive changes only!15:33
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/bifrost master: Remove unnecessary overrides of ansible_python_interpreter  https://review.opendev.org/74926215:33
dtantsurI'm worried how it's going to work when the RAID config is not specified precisely15:33
TheJuliaThe discussion of dell's configuration mold feature was brought up again this past week after the midcycle.15:33
TheJulia#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ironic/%23openstack-ironic.2020-09-02.log.html#t2020-09-02T22:27:4715:33
dtantsurI guess we don't have most of Dell folks here now?15:34
ajyaonly me15:34
dtantsurright15:34
TheJuliaAnd tl;dr they wish that the behavior contract is changed.15:34
TheJuliaI too have the same concern, so I think I really wanted to mention this item so we're aware and we're prepared to try and discuss next week?15:34
dtantsuror on the PTG?15:34
arne_wiebalckFor my understanding, I guess this would apply to software RAID?15:35
TheJuliaThat will likely be better because there is a lot of emotion involved15:35
dtantsursince it's pretty late to change behavior this cycle (we would have feature freeze if we were a "normal" project)15:35
TheJulia++15:35
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: any RAID, although I'm not sure how15:35
ajyaPTG - end of October?15:35
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: we were discussing this at the time I think15:35
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: and then decided to not do this15:35
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: back then :)15:36
dtantsurthere at least has to be a way to wipe all RAID configuration15:36
dtantsuryep, and I think for good reasons15:36
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: exactly15:36
TheJuliadtantsur: this too, it is presently a read only field in the API if memory serves15:36
dtantsurI mean, the actual RAID configuration applied to a machine15:36
TheJuliaoh, well that too15:37
dtantsurbecause otherwise you can get stuck with something you cannot even delete without trying to re-create it as target_raid_config15:37
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: ++15:37
TheJuliayeah15:37
dtantsurwhat ironic now does is a "cloud" behavior15:37
dtantsur"I own this machine, and I own what RAID means for it"15:37
arne_wiebalckI guess we could always make this configurable, no?15:38
dtantsurso, this is our first (?) topic for the PTG15:38
TheJuliaI'm really worried about the edge cases this will create in trying to reconcile it15:38
dtantsurfor now I'm fine with adding such an option, I don't feel easy about making it the default15:39
dtantsurexactly15:39
TheJuliaI don't get the motivation for forcing field reconcilliation15:39
arne_wiebalckNo, not the default, the exception :)15:39
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TheJuliabios will re-cache and we can set it to update the settings easily15:39
TheJuliaraid... is just a whole "ball of wax"15:39
dtantsuryou mean, changing raid_config based on something that is not our RAID interface?15:40
dtantsurI'm pretty much -2 on that15:40
TheJuliaand yup15:40
dtantsurat least based on what I've heard so far15:40
TheJuliaSo PTG topic it does seem15:40
ajyathanks for input, will discuss internally15:41
ajyathere might be more questions before PTG15:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Switch Ironic to openstacksdk for Neutron  https://review.opendev.org/73487315:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic bugfix/15.2: Handle an older agent with agent_token  https://review.opendev.org/74956315:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic stable/queens: Fix for failure in cleaning  https://review.opendev.org/74728815:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-ironicclient master: Remove Babel requirement  https://review.opendev.org/74758115:41
TheJuliaajya: one thing that would be good to understand is why there is such a desire to have the field reconciliation since that is the huge sticking point15:42
openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/bifrost master: [DNM] Dummy  https://review.opendev.org/75019515:42
dtantsuryep15:42
TheJuliaSpecifically for fields that cannot be scheduled upon15:42
ajyaTheJulia: to behave the same way as existing RAID interfaces15:42
dtantsurbut why?15:42
dtantsurto behave the same way as existing RAID interfaces it has to be implemented by calling the RAID interface15:42
dtantsurbut rpioso doesn't seem to want that15:43
ajyanot behave, but to have the same output15:43
TheJuliabut why?15:43
dtantsurwell, as long as ironic does not care or try to interpret the output - fine15:43
TheJuliaIt all comes back to how does this help the operator15:43
TheJuliait _really_ doesn't for us to try and guess15:43
TheJuliaand reconcile configuations15:43
TheJuliaAnyway, we should move on to Baremetal SIG and RFE review15:44
dtantsur++ for moving on15:44
ajyaok, will address this later15:44
TheJulia#topic Baremetal SIG15:44
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arne_wiebalckNothing apart from the doodle mentioned at the beginning.15:44
TheJuliaarne_wiebalck: o/15:44
TheJuliaAwesome15:44
TheJulia#topic RFE Review15:44
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TheJuliaWe have one item for review, to make node.automated clean work in both directions15:45
TheJulia#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200811315:45
dtantsurI'm not sure we should review it without JayF, he used to have a strong opinion on it15:45
TheJuliaYeah15:46
dtantsurbut I'm ready to hear other's feedback15:46
dtantsurothers'15:46
TheJuliaI too have a strong opinion for cleaning15:46
dtantsurso do I, but I think we ended up sending the wrong message15:46
TheJuliabut we did kind of create the situation15:46
dtantsurif we only allow to enable cleaning per node, people will be inclined to disable it globally15:46
dtantsurmaybe we need an option or even an API policy?15:46
TheJuliaNot only message, but some cases cleaning is just not really needed in non-cloudy cases15:46
dtantsurso that JayF could disable this policy for all nodes and prevent disabling cleaning per node?15:47
TheJuliadunno, I do like the logging note to record it when changed15:47
TheJuliapossibly15:47
dtantsurI'll add to the RFE15:47
TheJuliait wouldn't make the logic terribly complex15:47
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dtantsurnot at all15:47
TheJuliaI suspect we hold on to this one for next week15:47
TheJuliaWell in that case, Time for Open Discussion!15:49
TheJulia#topic Open Discussion15:49
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dtantsurI'm going to work on the iscsi deploy deprecation15:50
dtantsurlast minute objections or comments are accepted on the ML15:50
iurygregorygo for it!15:50
TheJuliadtantsur: sounds good15:50
TheJulia\o/15:50
TheJuliaWell,  guess there is not much left to discuss if I'm thinking of going and finding videos of crickets :)15:51
dtantsur++15:51
TheJuliaThanks everyone! Have a wonderful day and week!15:52
dtantsuryou too!15:52
arne_wiebalckThanks TheJulia !15:52
TheJulia#endmeeting15:52
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TheJuliaNow to go figure out what project I'm going to go work on today with our absurd heat warning15:52
dtantsurI'm scared to think what "absurd heat" means for you15:53
TheJulia48.8C15:54
TheJuliaThat is at least the forecast for today15:54
dtantsurO__o15:56
dtantsurthat starts being an oven15:57
iurygregoryOMG!15:58
iurygregory48.8C?!15:58
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martalaiswith 48.8C i think we can burn the ironic bear, be careful15:59
arne_wiebalckBye everyone o/16:00
dtantsurbear metal well done16:00
dtantsurbye arne_wiebalck16:00
iurygregorybye arne_wiebalck o/16:00
iurygregorywe can make a good redfish =)16:00
martalaisbye arne_wiebalck o/16:00
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Nisha_AgarwalTheJulia, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746416/ needs a workflow. It has 2 +2. There was a merge gate failure on previous patch set. I just rebased it on top of ironic master branch. Somehow upstream gates failing since my morning today. Now in 3rd recheck of the patch, the gates have passed.16:34
patchbotpatch 746416 - ironic - Adds few of the security dashboard parameters to c... - 13 patch sets16:34
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Change [agent]image_download_source=http  https://review.opendev.org/75020317:03
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [WIP] Deprecate the iscsi deploy interface  https://review.opendev.org/75020417:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Adds few of the security dashboard parameters to capabilities  https://review.opendev.org/74641618:45
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jandersgood morning Ironic o/23:38

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