Monday, 2020-01-13

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mkraiHi Ironic o/05:31
mkraiHow can I boot into ramdisk to check IPA status?05:32
mkraikaifeng, Hi, good morning05:33
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kaifenghi mkrai o/05:53
mkraigood morning kaifeng o/05:57
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arne_wiebalckGood morning, ironic+07:24
arne_wiebalckmkrai: Set maintenance on the node, then clean it. The node will boot into the ramdisk and then stall (which allows you to log in).07:25
kaifengGood morning arne_wiebalck o/07:27
arne_wiebalckmkrai: the ramdisk image needs to have your key built in.07:27
arne_wiebalckGood morning, kaifeng o/07:28
kaifengarne_wiebalck: do you use serial console for node management at cern?07:28
arne_wiebalckkaifeng: we use the BMCs07:29
kaifengarne_wiebalck: ok, so you don't use the socat console driver.07:31
arne_wiebalckkaifeng: No: we have a small patch to print the bmc URL so that users can get access to the console via the BMC. We always wanted to look into more direct console access via ironic, but never got round to do anything.07:33
arne_wiebalckkaifeng: ... and users are used to get console access via the BMC.07:33
arne_wiebalckkaifeng: which also means they have access via IPMI to the node which may not be desirable in other environments.07:34
kaifengarne_wiebalck: got it, thanks, i think that's different use cases, because some user wants to use console through a central web interface.07:36
arne_wiebalckkaifeng: yes, our users interact directly with the individual nodes07:38
kaifengactually i am a bit confuse on the [serial_console]port_range in nova.conf, as i understand it, this is a port pool for nova compute to allocate for VMs, but in case of ironic, I am not sure whether the ipmi_terminal_port should fall into such range.07:39
arne_wiebalckkaifeng: I have no idea, sorry.07:43
kaifengarne_wiebalck: no worries :)07:52
mkraiarne_wiebalck, thanks o/07:53
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rpittaugood morning ironic! o/08:35
kaifeng?Happy? monday rpittau o/08:40
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rpittauhey kaifeng, and hopefully it will be :)08:42
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iurygregorygood morning Ironic09:02
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kaifenghi iurygregory o/09:09
iurygregorykaifeng, o/09:09
rpittauhey iurygregory :)09:09
iurygregoryrpittau, o/09:10
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dtantsurmorning ironic10:32
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iurygregorymorning dtantsur10:39
openstackgerritIury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Avoid grub2-install when on UEFI boot mode  https://review.opendev.org/69691410:39
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Omit configdrive and system_logs from logging  https://review.opendev.org/70209510:53
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dtantsurin case you missed, it's Broken CI Monday: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-January/011960.html11:01
* rpittau loves the smell of broken CI in the morning11:01
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iurygregoryhold rechecks =D11:46
* iurygregory wondering if we should change the topic on the channel 11:58
dtantsuriurygregory: I asked #infra about a global notice, got no response12:04
iurygregorydtantsur, got it12:04
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TheJuliadtantsur: would it be possible for you to run the meeting this morning? I have overlapping meetings/topics and one is an in-person meeting13:04
TheJuliaarne_wiebalck: have we created an etherpad to begin collecting midcycle topics. I'd really like security (firmware management, attestation, post-ipmi universe sort of stuff on our list, but I'm wondering if there are other topics13:05
arne_wiebalckTheJulia: I don't think there is an etherpad yet13:06
openstackgerritMr. Matonis proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Added scope to introspection rules.  https://review.opendev.org/70221513:07
arne_wiebalckTheJulia: I'll create one.13:11
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arne_wiebalckTheJulia: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-ussuri-midcycle13:16
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dtantsurTheJulia: I can, although I'll also listen in the same meeting remotely13:19
dtantsuralso g'morning13:19
iurygregorygood morning TheJulia13:19
iurygregorydtantsur, the paragraph about custom resource would be necessary? we have the information about it in the Configuration section13:24
dtantsuriurygregory: I think it's critical enough to highlight (assuming you're talking about nova docs)13:25
iurygregorydtantsur, yeah13:25
dtantsurWe all know how people tend to read docs sometimes... ;)13:25
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iurygregorydtantsur, http://paste.openstack.org/show/788324/ wdyt?13:55
dtantsuriurygregory: it may sounds a bit as if resource_class and traits are orthogonal options, while actually resource_class is always required13:55
dtantsurlemme try something..13:56
iurygregorydtantsur, ok13:56
dtantsuriurygregory: I'd shorted it to something like http://paste.openstack.org/show/788325/13:58
dtantsurjust to give an overview of what to pay attention to13:58
iurygregorydtantsur, tks!13:59
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dtantsurmgoddard: could you request an ironicclient train release to publish https://opendev.org/openstack/python-ironicclient/commit/8188c01489f63b5fd10702ebccbd742b62488d6e ?14:10
mgoddarddtantsur: will do14:11
dtantsurthx!14:11
mgoddarddtantsur: which branches?14:12
dtantsurmgoddard: at least train. probably worth checking others as well.14:12
mgoddardit got backported to stein too. Rocky CI had issues14:13
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dtantsurmgoddard: it looks like stein could use a release as well14:19
mgoddarddtantsur: just proposed14:19
dtantsurthx!14:19
mgoddardwe could probably use some stable releases generally. I'll put it on my list14:19
dtantsur++14:21
dtantsurmy personal favourite now is Train for numerous downstream reasons :)14:21
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TheJulia++14:31
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iurygregorydtantsur, I couldn't find any "image doc" but the information about ram cpu and disk are in https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/rocky/install/configure-nova-flavors.html The only difference is that we are not saying that the disk information is only for partition images14:38
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dtantsurwe probably should14:38
dtantsurthe images doc is https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/install/configure-glance-images.html (and it could use some love too)14:38
iurygregorydtantsur, ack14:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-specs master: Add in-band deploy steps spec  https://review.opendev.org/69661914:42
dtantsurpre-meeting reminder: please update your status beforehand!14:50
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dansmithin a tripleo type environment where undercloud ironic is managing compute nodes for the overcloud, can you have ironic power down a node, apply firmware and reboot it without harming the "workload" (i.e. the compute node in this case) ?14:59
dansmithdtantsur: TheJulia ^14:59
dtantsurdansmith: about to enter the weekly meeting14:59
dansmithI know, hoping it's a quick answer15:00
dtantsurbut I think the answer now is "no"15:00
dtantsurbut there is a desire for that15:00
dtantsur#startmeeting ironic15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan 13 15:00:19 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'15:00
dansmithokay, that's what I thought15:00
iurygregoryo/15:00
jroll\o15:00
rpittauo/15:00
stendulkero/15:00
bdoddo/15:00
rpioso\o15:00
dtantsurdansmith: feel free to stay and have a meeting with us :)15:00
mgoddard\o15:00
arne_wiebalcko/15:00
dtantsurwelcome everyone!15:00
dansmithdtantsur:  :)15:00
dtantsur#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic Our agenda15:01
dtantsur#chair TheJulia15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: TheJulia dtantsur15:01
dtantsur#topic Announcements / Reminder15:01
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dtantsur#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-ussuri-midcycle Proposed agenda items for the midcycle15:01
dtantsurplease add your ideas ^^^15:01
dtantsuranybody has anything else to announce?15:02
rlooo/15:02
iurygregoryCI broken yay15:02
dtantsurfor some definition of "yay" :)15:03
dtantsurbut yes, all devstack jobs (largely, all jobs that mention python 2 anywhere) are currently brokern15:03
iurygregoryhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-January/011960.html15:03
TheJuliao/ from in-person meeting15:03
dtantsurplease hold on rechecking15:03
dtantsurokay, let's roll on15:04
iurygregorydtantsur, the yay is just to avoid put crying face15:04
dtantsurheh15:04
dtantsur#topic Review action items from previous meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2020/15:04
*** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from previous meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2020/ (Meeting topic: ironic)"15:04
dtantsurNothing here, just the updated link with s/2019/2020/15:04
dtantsurAnyone had any unrecorded items?15:04
dtantsur#topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes)15:05
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dtantsur#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard status start on line 27715:05
dtantsurA regular reminder: please don't forget to update statuses before the meeting15:05
dtantsur#info The in-band deploy steps spec has been approved15:07
dtantsurmgoddard: your WIP patches seem to need a rebase15:07
dtantsurtzumainn: hey! for the ownership work, do we have some action items after lessee?15:08
mgoddard+1, I should update them for the new step names from the spec15:08
dtantsur#info Managed boot for inspection has been completed15:08
tzumainndtantsur, hi! I didn't have anything in mind, aside from implementing lessee if approved15:08
dtantsurack15:09
tzumainndtantsur, if there's anything I might have forgotten just let me know15:09
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rlooetingof: wrt dhcp-less deployments, around L328, is that the right link for your revised spec?15:09
dtantsurtzumainn: we need to try creating an end-to-end demo and see what we're missing15:09
dtantsurrloo++ wrong link15:09
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dtantsurupdated15:10
tzumainndtantsur, makes sense!15:10
dtantsurtzumainn: do you plan on coming to our midcycle?15:10
TheJuliaSpeaking of demos, we should ponder demoing newer features later this year15:10
dtantsurvery much ++15:11
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: do you have any new status for node retirement?15:11
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: no, I am about to start on this, though15:11
arne_wiebalckhopefully15:12
tzumainndtantsur, I wasn't planning on it, no15:12
rloo(i just updated the link to the story for the wsme-replacement work )15:12
dtantsur#info mDNS IPv6 support has been completed15:12
dtantsurWe'll remove the finished items during the next meeting, I guess?15:12
rloogreat. and ++15:14
TheJuliaif striked out, makes sense15:14
dtantsurIs everyone done with going through the statuses?15:15
iurygregoryI'm15:16
* rloo is done15:16
dtantsur#topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week15:16
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dtantsurLet me clean up the list15:16
dtantsurFYI I'm moving the bifrost python 3 work to the top15:18
dtantsurwithout it bifrost is outright broken15:18
dtantsurNow, is there anything we should add to the list?15:20
iurygregoryyeah15:20
* dtantsur wonders if mkrai is going to update https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672252/ soon15:20
patchbotpatch 672252 - ironic-specs - Add support for node reconfigure - 5 patch sets15:20
iurygregoryI think its ok to add https://review.opendev.org/#/c/696914/15:20
patchbotpatch 696914 - ironic-python-agent - Avoid grub2-install when on UEFI boot mode - 14 patch sets15:20
iurygregory(CI is red because of devstack)15:20
TheJuliadtantsur: That seems reasonable to me15:21
dtantsuriurygregory: it's there now15:21
iurygregorydtantsur, tks15:21
dtantsurby the way, I forgot to mention but15:21
dtantsur#info The DIB CI jobs are green now and are using CentOS 8. Please keep an eye on them.15:22
dtantsurnow, how's the priority list looking?15:22
rpittaulgtm :)15:23
* dtantsur is looking for a 2nd +2 now15:23
* dtantsur hears fresh new year crickets15:25
mgoddardlooks like we have enough on there15:25
dtantsur#topic Open discussion15:25
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dtantsurDoes anyone have anything else to discuss?15:26
rloobefore i forget, i put as a note in the whiteboard (L233ish) wrt backports. discussed with julia so it isn't a policy, but decided to backport up to or down to pike.15:26
rloodoes that make sense to others?15:26
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dtantsurI'm not sure how possible it is to backport anything to pike at this point..15:27
dtantsurbut yes, it does15:27
rpittaufor some things it will be toughand not clean15:27
rloo"if backporting, also backport to queens & pike, unless the cherry-pick is too difficult" :D15:27
rpittau^ soudns reasonable :)15:28
dtantsuryep, that's a great way to put it15:28
dtantsur#agreed If backporting, also backport to queens & pike, unless the cherry-pick is too difficult15:28
rloothey are in extended maintenance so I didn't know what / if we should backport and/or review/merge them.15:28
dtantsurwe should but don't have to15:29
dtantsurand if the CI is broken and nobody steps up, we're in our right to abandon a branch15:29
rlooexactly. that's why i asked/wondered :)15:29
rlooyes to abandoning CI for extended branch15:29
rlooextended-maintenance branch15:29
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rloois pike CI failing?15:30
dtantsurno idea, I don't remember many backports there15:31
rloook, just wondering. let's move on :)15:31
dtantsurmy corporate interest end at queens nowadays15:31
mgoddardarne_wiebalck: will it be possible to join remotely for the midcycle?15:33
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arne_wiebalckmgoddard: yes15:33
mgoddardarne_wiebalck: great :)15:33
arne_wiebalckmgoddard: I'll circle instruction in due time15:34
rloohmm, just saw this link in our whiteboard. do we want/update it? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicHelpWanted15:34
dtantsurrloo: it's mostly up-to-date, only the L3 spec seems to be in a healthy state now15:35
rloodtantsur: ok, i'm going to move it up then, above 'Prior Planning Documents'15:36
dtantsur++15:36
dtantsuranything else we should talk about?15:37
arne_wiebalckmgoddard: did John bring any feedback from the ops meetup?15:37
mgoddardarne_wiebalck: good question. I'll be seeing him on Thursday15:38
arne_wiebalckok, thanks!15:38
dtantsura blog post/ML message is appreciated15:39
dtantsurare we ready to wrap up now?15:39
* dtantsur assumes yes15:40
dtantsurthank you everyone!15:40
rloo++15:40
dtantsur#endmeeting15:40
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rpittauthanks!15:41
kaifenghi, anyone has idea of whether nova validates the socat port falls into the port range configured in the nova?15:42
* dtantsur no idea15:42
kaifengi think the port_range for serialproxy only makes sense for libvirt backend15:44
kaifengso if nova doesn't validate that, it seems an operator can choose any port for an ironic node.15:44
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TheJuliaThat matches my memory/understanding15:54
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kaifengTheJulia: Thanks! I feel similar enhancement would be good for the serial console, it would be an issue if the chosen port is occupied.15:58
TheJuliaI've heard that being encountered a few times so I guess15:59
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Decompose core deploy step  https://review.opendev.org/69830916:06
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: In-band deploy steps  https://review.opendev.org/69876816:06
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost master: Drop Py2 testing  https://review.opendev.org/70225316:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost master: Drop Py2 testing  https://review.opendev.org/70225316:51
openstackgerritMr. Matonis proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Added scope to introspection rules.  https://review.opendev.org/70221516:55
rpiosoHas anyone seen etingof today?16:55
* dtantsur hasn't16:57
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost master: Remove CI credential setup  https://review.opendev.org/70210717:02
rpittaugood night! o/17:02
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etingofrpioso, o/17:04
rpiosoetingof: \o17:04
rpiosoetingof: I'm playing with Redfish vmedia boot against an R740xd.17:04
rpiosoI've been peeling back the onion.17:07
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rpiosoetingof: Do you have some time to chat about that ^^^?17:20
dtantsurmgoddard: FYI https://review.opendev.org/#/c/698309/ is full red because of a syntax error https://8120cec50dbf22b0ed97-a15027182aab035aa882f99410b51a23.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/698309/3/check/openstack-tox-cover/f197df0/job-output.txt17:22
patchbotpatch 698309 - ironic - WIP: Decompose core deploy step - 3 patch sets17:22
etingofrpioso, sure! unpeeling onion challenge17:23
mgoddarddtantsur: thanks17:23
* dtantsur was checking zuul and noticed that17:24
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Decompose core deploy step  https://review.opendev.org/69830917:25
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: In-band deploy steps  https://review.opendev.org/69876817:25
rpiosoI ran into a few things on Friday. I believe I'm beyond those now.17:26
rpiosoetingof: ^^17:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost master: Fix inspector conditional  https://review.opendev.org/70158917:27
rpiosoetingof: 1) My devstack had a post-holiday break issue with swift and/or glance. I restacked it and successfully reproduced a non-vmedia deployment.17:27
rpiosoetingof: 2) I then proceeded to try a vmedia deployment. I ran into a swift issue, which I worked around by adding a configuration setting to ironic.conf. I set use_swift to False in the [redfish] section. Does that sound familiar?17:28
etingofI've not run into (2) so far17:29
etingofrpioso, so I think the easiest way would be to use some hop host to do ssh forwarding between idrac and devstack17:30
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rpiosoetingof: I placed the iDRAC on the provisioning subnet. It can ping devstack's web server.17:40
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dtantsur|afkg'night folks17:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: CI: add a non-voting partition-iscsi DIB job  https://review.opendev.org/70195019:54
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost master: DNM Attempt specific dnsmasq directory  https://review.opendev.org/70229120:44
openstackgerritBob Fournier proposed openstack/ironic master: With the change to find the bootloader on disk (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/696914/) install_bootloader should now be invoked when doing an iscsi_deploy even if the root partition cannot be found.  https://review.opendev.org/70229320:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Lower RAM for DIB jobs to 2 GiB  https://review.opendev.org/70207320:57
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AnandhiHi, I'm investigating the deployment scenario in our new project. Does anyone knew if Ironic supports auto discovery of servers in the stack? Appreciate your response.21:07
openstackgerritBob Fournier proposed openstack/ironic master: Don't require root patition when installing a whole disk image  https://review.opendev.org/70229321:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder master: CI: add a non-voting partition-iscsi DIB job  https://review.opendev.org/70195221:34
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TheJuliaSo good news regarding bifrost, Bionic seems to be really close with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702107 - The issue appears to be dhcp does not work, so I think someone is going to have to get a clean and fresh VM up and packet capture22:05
patchbotpatch 702107 - bifrost - Remove CI credential setup - 2 patch sets22:05
TheJuliaAnandhi: Auto discovery is a feature of ironic-inspector through a default PXE network boot. If your thinking something like scanning for BMCs, it is not something that an ironic component supports but some third parties have written scripts to do such over the last few years22:06
Anandhioh, great. Thank sJulia for your response. Does Ironic-inspector provides any REST API for discovery?22:09
Anandhilet me take a look at PXE network boot22:09
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TheJuliaAnandhi: the way it works is the machine boots and resports to ironic-inspector's API, which then adds the node to ironic22:14
TheJuliasince ironic-inspector runs with credentials and access to ironic's API to post a new node22:15
TheJuliathe thing that is missing is automatic setting of an IPMI password. That is a path fought with risk so we encourage people to reconcile prior to deployment or us introspection rules to automatically set a default, like dell's root/calvin bmc credentials22:16
TheJuliaThat being said, most vendors prefer to ship with randomized credentials too.22:16
TheJuliaFor obvious security reasons22:17
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost master: DNM Enable remaining ubuntu jobs  https://review.opendev.org/70185122:42
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost master: Switch to use a venv by default for testing  https://review.opendev.org/70164123:28
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Lower RAM for DIB jobs to 2 GiB  https://review.opendev.org/70230823:30
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