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| kaifeng | morning | 01:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Repair building tinyipa images after the move to ipa-builder https://review.opendev.org/674026 | 01:45 |
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| TheJulia | good morning | 02:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Adds tooz locking driver https://review.opendev.org/670763 | 02:42 |
| kaifeng | morning TheJulia see you again :) | 02:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | pengyuesheng proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client master: Blacklist sphinx 2.1.0 (autodoc bug) https://review.opendev.org/674185 | 06:10 |
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| verma-varsha | etingof: I think there's some problem with the Chassis and Manager resource emulation in sushy-tools here(https://github.com/openstack/sushy-tools/blob/master/sushy_tools/emulator/resources/chassis/staticdriver.py#L30). As in, no matter what we provide in the emulator.conf file, `app.config.get` still returns None and hence the default is being used every time | 06:18 |
| openstackgerrit | pengyuesheng proposed openstack/virtualbmc master: Blacklist sphinx 2.1.0 (autodoc bug) https://review.opendev.org/674189 | 06:19 |
| openstackgerrit | pengyuesheng proposed openstack/virtualbmc master: Bump the openstackdocstheme extension to 1.20 https://review.opendev.org/674190 | 06:22 |
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| verma-varsha | etingof: I figured I was running into that error because I hadn't set the environment variable for the config file. Apologies for the false alarm. | 07:25 |
| etingof | verma-varsha, awesome! I just wanted to refer you to devstack/ironic where the config file is being used | 07:26 |
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| iurygregory | good morning Ironic o/ | 07:30 |
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| etingof | o/ iurygregory | 07:32 |
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| dtantsur | morning | 08:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Split API and conductor services https://review.opendev.org/673732 | 08:07 |
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| kaifeng | dtantsur: have a test on etcd3gw, it seems working now o/ | 08:09 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 08:11 |
| dtantsur | so, the problem was probably in eventlet | 08:11 |
| kaifeng | not sure, tooz is using a thread for the heartbeating | 08:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/ironic master: Support power state change callbacks to nova using ksa_adapter https://review.opendev.org/664842 | 08:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nisha Agarwal proposed openstack/ironic master: Implement basic interfaces for GraphicalConsole Interface https://review.opendev.org/547356 | 08:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Nisha Agarwal proposed openstack/ironic master: RPC changes for Graphical Console https://review.opendev.org/640827 | 08:48 |
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| kaifeng | hi dtantsur, I am not following your comment about the unnecessary api script | 09:01 |
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| dtantsur | kaifeng: we don't need a script to launch API, we can provide a WSGI entry point so that people use a real WSGI container | 09:01 |
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| dtantsur | like https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/setup.cfg#L50-L51 | 09:02 |
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| kaifeng | got it, thanks, but having a console script seems handy for local debug or exercising, maybe adds a wsgi but still keeps the script? | 09:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nisha Agarwal proposed openstack/ironic master: RPC changes for Graphical Console https://review.opendev.org/640827 | 09:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client master: CI: clean up required projects https://review.opendev.org/673442 | 09:22 |
| kaifeng | dtantsur: okay, I think I have a general idea on what you mean, but in this patch, coordinator is started in the WSGIService, not flask itself. | 09:23 |
| kaifeng | WSGIService itself can't be embedded into a container | 09:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sushy master: Add MappedListField https://review.opendev.org/671228 | 09:35 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: that's bad if so. we need to support the ability to run a wsgi application, that's how people run API services in production. | 09:36 |
| dtantsur | are you sure WSGIService cannot be used as a WSGI application? how does ironic handle it? | 09:37 |
| kaifeng | WSGIService here is a subclass of oslo Service, while ironic is a pecan instance, they are different | 09:39 |
| kaifeng | I just did a quick check, it said so, but maybe need further confirmation. | 09:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/metalsmith master: [WIP] Clean up exceptions metalsmith raises https://review.opendev.org/674247 | 09:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client stable/stein: CI: clean up required projects https://review.opendev.org/674248 | 09:43 |
| kaifeng | bye ironicers o/ | 09:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Varsha Verma proposed openstack/sushy-tools master: Add Simple Storage resource support https://review.opendev.org/667328 | 10:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: RAID create fails if 'controller' is missing in 'target_raid_config' https://review.opendev.org/673854 | 10:56 |
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| dtantsur | etingof: hey, do these snmp-related failures ring any bells? https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7/ad/80/ad802b441c5172c4a7a90138c04b0793fe73eb05_d0e11ceb/build.log | 11:05 |
| dtantsur | ah, nevermind, it seems that a solution is mentioned in https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/21681/ | 11:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Add iDRAC RAID deploy steps https://review.opendev.org/641731 | 11:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic master: Changes to enable execution of out of band deploy steps https://review.opendev.org/674268 | 11:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic master: Add new method 'apply_configuration' to RAIDInterface https://review.opendev.org/674269 | 11:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic master: Add deploy steps for Redfish BIOS interface https://review.opendev.org/642060 | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic master: Add deploy steps for iLO BIOS interface https://review.opendev.org/674270 | 11:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic master: Add iLO RAID deploy steps https://review.opendev.org/674271 | 11:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Add iDRAC RAID deploy steps https://review.opendev.org/641731 | 11:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Ansible driver: fix deployment with serial specified as root device hint https://review.opendev.org/672530 | 11:17 |
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| etingof | dtantsur, I am not sure... I've made a new release a couple of days back, so may be it's a regression. Do you see which pysnmp this job pulls? | 11:46 |
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| dtantsur | etingof: probably not a new one | 11:52 |
| * etingof is relieved | 11:53 | |
| etingof | dtantsur, but I found the answer -- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47165894/pysnmp-returns-typeerror-with-anaconda-install-even-with-example-codehttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/47165894/pysnmp-returns-typeerror-with-anaconda-install-even-with-example-code | 11:53 |
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| rpittau | good afternoon ironic! o/ | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/metalsmith master: Clean up exceptions metalsmith raises https://review.opendev.org/674247 | 12:00 |
| iurygregory | rpittau, o/ back to france? | 12:01 |
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| rpittau | iurygregory: yeah, same temperature, less sea :/ | 12:03 |
| iurygregory | rpittau, good luck =( | 12:03 |
| guilhermesp | morning all! We've been noticing that even setting up erase_devices_priority = 0, the cleaning process keeps stuck for hours ( http://paste.openstack.org/show/755327/ ). Is there any other setting to disable zeroing the disks during cleaning process? | 12:03 |
| dtantsur | guilhermesp: hi! are you sure 1. you set it in the right place, 2. the process is not stuck because of something else (like PXE timeout)? | 12:04 |
| guilhermesp | hey man, how's going ? :P | 12:05 |
| dtantsur | guilhermesp: because this works: https://github.com/metal3-io/ironic-image/blob/master/ironic.conf#L27-L28 | 12:05 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 12:05 |
| guilhermesp | well. we are using openstack-ansible, that sets erase_devices_priority under [deploy] session | 12:05 |
| guilhermesp | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lztKgYBN/ | 12:05 |
| iurygregory | guilhermesp, its ansible fault =P | 12:06 |
| guilhermesp | services restarted and everything | 12:06 |
| guilhermesp | nooooo LSD is using just fine with rocky :P | 12:06 |
| dtantsur | blame ansible! :D | 12:06 |
| guilhermesp | osa + rocky | 12:06 |
| iurygregory | LSD still using osa + rocky? oh god | 12:06 |
| guilhermesp | cloud5 | 12:06 |
| * dtantsur wonders what's it there about using LSD | 12:07 | |
| dtantsur | :D | 12:07 |
| guilhermesp | oh | 12:07 |
| guilhermesp | hahahaha | 12:07 |
| iurygregory | dtantsur, its the lab at UFCG in Brazil =) | 12:07 |
| guilhermesp | in portuguese: Laboratorio de Sistemas Distribuidos | 12:07 |
| dtantsur | anyway, you sure it's zeroing disks? you can look at node.clean_steps and node.driver_internal_info | 12:07 |
| guilhermesp | but yeah, there're lots of crazy ppl there | 12:07 |
| dtantsur | ah! well, writing ansible under LSD sounded funnier | 12:07 |
| dtantsur | just imaging THAT PLAYBOOK | 12:08 |
| iurygregory | HAHAHAHAH | 12:08 |
| iurygregory | omg | 12:08 |
| guilhermesp | dtantsur: so we've been checking this http://paste.openstack.org/show/755327/ and seems to be stuck in this status | 12:08 |
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| guilhermesp | just to be a bit more complete http://paste.openstack.org/show/755328/ | 12:08 |
| dtantsur | guilhermesp: I don't remember be heart if these options are sent always or only with the step is enabled | 12:09 |
| dtantsur | that's why I suggest checking the clean_steps attribute (or just paste the whole node record) | 12:09 |
| guilhermesp | ok so just for the record: which would be the sintax to check it? :P | 12:10 |
| rpittau | I turn my head 1 sec and people start talking about LSD? | 12:11 |
| dtantsur | sorry, it was a clean step (substitute it instead of driver_internal_info) | 12:11 |
| guilhermesp | ah ok | 12:11 |
| guilhermesp | let me see | 12:11 |
| iurygregory | rpittau, yeah https://www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br/#/ aka Distributed System Laboratory in english | 12:12 |
| guilhermesp | ups dtantsur seems that returned {} | 12:12 |
| rpittau | iurygregory: oh :/ | 12:12 |
| guilhermesp | http://paste.openstack.org/show/755329/ | 12:12 |
| iurygregory | rpittau, =P | 12:12 |
| dtantsur | guilhermesp: yeah.. I also don't see clean_steps in your driver_internal_info | 12:13 |
| * rpittau cooking | 12:13 | |
| guilhermesp | which means: no cleaning being executed now | 12:13 |
| dtantsur | guilhermesp: it looks like cleaning hasn't started at all | 12:13 |
| dtantsur | you probably need to track the node UUID through ironic-conductor logs to understand what's happening | 12:13 |
| guilhermesp | yeah let me try to find it | 12:14 |
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| iurygregory | not sure how much time would take to wip 2TB ... | 12:17 |
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| guilhermesp | yeah nothing on conductor logs and yeah, disk is 2tb | 12:18 |
| iurygregory | wipe* | 12:18 |
| rpittau | really depends on the type of erase | 12:20 |
| TheJulia | good morning | 12:20 |
| rpittau | and tghe type of disk | 12:20 |
| rpittau | good morning TheJulia :) | 12:20 |
| * etingof can't help but wonder which cuisine rpittau is cooking - French or Italian... | 12:21 | |
| etingof | TheJulia, o/ | 12:21 |
| guilhermesp | morning TheJulia | 12:21 |
| iurygregory | morning TheJulia | 12:21 |
| guilhermesp | huum I was wondering that disabling the erase_device_priority would ignore the type/size of disk | 12:21 |
| rpittau | etingof: I went for an easy and quick pasta :) | 12:21 |
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| etingof | that sounds more Italian to me | 12:22 |
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| rpittau | etingof: definitely Italian, the pasta I used is typical from region, just smuggled it from Sardegna :D | 12:23 |
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| * iurygregory is going to make pasta for lunch also XD | 12:25 | |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic master: Use HTTPProxyToWSGI middleware from oslo https://review.opendev.org/672819 | 12:25 |
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| dtantsur | guilhermesp: a wild guess: do you even have ANY clean steps enabled? | 12:35 |
| dtantsur | guilhermesp: e.g. we enable removing metadata https://github.com/metal3-io/ironic-image/blob/master/ironic.conf#L27 | 12:35 |
| dtantsur | I wonder if you see this behavior because you don't have any clean steps | 12:36 |
| dtantsur | (not saying it's the right behavior..) | 12:36 |
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| guilhermesp | nops dtantsur .... I wonder if this is relate to the drive I'm using... it is an nvme of 1.92TB | 13:02 |
| guilhermesp | I just tried to clean again and it seems that clean_step is {} | 13:03 |
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| dtantsur | guilhermesp: did you add any clean steps? if you have zero clean steps enabled, you can just as well disable automated cleaning. | 13:05 |
| dtantsur | guilhermesp: but I'd recommend you enable the metadata cleaning. | 13:05 |
| guilhermesp | hum, actually the only settings I have here is automated_clean = true and erase_device_priority = 0. You suggest to disable automated_clean and add https://github.com/metal3-io/ironic-image/blob/61e8c8a7b122d8bad9ffc45bb39eb927d258a059/ironic.conf#L27 as well? | 13:06 |
| openstackgerrit | raphael.glon proposed openstack/ironic stable/stein: Ansible driver: fix deployment with serial specified as root device hint https://review.opendev.org/674310 | 13:07 |
| openstackgerrit | raphael.glon proposed openstack/ironic stable/rocky: Ansible driver: fix deployment with serial specified as root device hint https://review.opendev.org/674311 | 13:08 |
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| dtantsur | guilhermesp: I suggest you keep automated_clean, but add erase_devices_metadata_priority != 0 | 13:08 |
| guilhermesp | the default value is 0 right? I can set it now as 10 following the link you sent me | 13:09 |
| dtantsur | yep | 13:10 |
| guilhermesp | I will give a try | 13:10 |
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| guilhermesp | huum, seems that I'm still getting {} from cleaning steps | 13:18 |
| TheJulia | braaaiiinsss | 13:19 |
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| guilhermesp | so the type of drive doesn't have any influence in the cleaning process right? | 13:47 |
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| dtantsur | not at this stage, I guess | 13:48 |
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| tssurya | dtantsur: o/ whenever you have some time could you have a look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664842/10/zuul.d/ironic-jobs.yaml and tell me if that's how its done ? I guess I just did the same as we do in nova, but maybe in ironic its not the same since the CI fails | 13:58 |
| patchbot | patch 664842 - ironic - Support power state change callbacks to nova using... - 10 patch sets | 13:58 |
| tssurya | thanks in advnace | 13:59 |
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| dtantsur | rpittau: we have a transient failure in sdk: https://logs.opendev.org/98/674298/1/check/openstacksdk-functional-devstack-ironic/f2521c2/testr_results.html.gz | 14:31 |
| dtantsur | not guaranteed ordering. could you take a look? | 14:31 |
| rpittau | dtantsur: sure | 14:32 |
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| dtantsur | tssurya: let's maybe make it a devstack logic? something like `if is_service_enabled nova`? | 14:32 |
| pas-ha | @dtantsur https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672819/ unit test added | 14:37 |
| patchbot | patch 672819 - ironic - Use HTTPProxyToWSGI middleware from oslo - 5 patch sets | 14:37 |
| dtantsur | thx! will check later | 14:37 |
| pas-ha | thanks :-) | 14:38 |
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| tssurya | dtantsur: I am not sure if I understand correctly, do you mean something seperate from `send_power_notifications`? | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Use openstacksdk for accessing ironic-inspector https://review.opendev.org/669855 | 14:48 |
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| rpittau | dtantsur: I think this https://review.opendev.org/674328 should sort the issue (pun intended) | 15:07 |
| patchbot | patch 674328 - openstacksdk - Sort output of functional test trait - 1 patch set | 15:07 |
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| dtantsur | lol | 15:07 |
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| TheJulia | gregwork: you around? | 15:16 |
| gregwork | TheJulia: hey | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | gregwork: is there a BZ for the other issue that you were encountering where the config drive build would fail on talking to keystone? | 15:18 |
| gregwork | no, we have a working theory as to what the issue might be | 15:18 |
| gregwork | we redeployed the undercloud without ipa/ssl so just plain http and all the bad behaviour went away. this is interesting because given that this is a virtualized environment and we adjusted storage/memory/cpu to well beyond what we need the only thing left that could account for the slowness is the vm running out of entropy for the crypto ops | 15:19 |
| * TheJulia blinks | 15:20 | |
| gregwork | i think that because all the ssl/crypto ops were grinding to a snails pace while /dev/random caught up caused all the code to shake apart | 15:20 |
| TheJulia | OH! | 15:20 |
| TheJulia | wow | 15:20 |
| gregwork | because they are not expecting all the ssl ops to be randomly slow | 15:20 |
| TheJulia | so... yeah | 15:20 |
| dtantsur | wow indeed | 15:20 |
| TheJulia | why are we not using urandom? | 15:20 |
| gregwork | no rngd was running to help feed the vm | 15:20 |
| gregwork | and we were defaulting to whatever libvirt has for entropy | 15:21 |
| gregwork | i think its 2kb/s | 15:21 |
| gregwork | its super conservative | 15:21 |
| gregwork | this is the theory | 15:21 |
| gregwork | but we have been swapping out everything | 15:21 |
| gregwork | and this is kind of whats left | 15:21 |
| gregwork | dedicated san cabinet for the director | 15:21 |
| gregwork | 64gb for director | 15:21 |
| gregwork | 16 vcpu | 15:21 |
| gregwork | no noisy vms | 15:21 |
| gregwork | only thing left is stuff like crypto ops | 15:22 |
| gregwork | and ssl+kerberos is pretty crypto heavy | 15:22 |
| gregwork | we dont get ANY of the errors we were seeing before | 15:22 |
| gregwork | no ironic/neutron fights on ports | 15:22 |
| gregwork | no nova scheduling issues | 15:22 |
| gregwork | well we still see some failures with the power operations | 15:23 |
| gregwork | so we kept your 30s nova_api retry | 15:23 |
| gregwork | that + the CUSTOM_BAREMETAL tagging on osdcompute | 15:23 |
| gregwork | seems to cause that random last man building to go away | 15:23 |
| gregwork | but all that crazy other errors are gone | 15:23 |
| dtantsur | rpittau: we do use set() for traits https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/api/controllers/v1/node.py#L820-L823 | 15:23 |
| gregwork | im asking gss for guidance on tuning entropy settings in RHV/libvirt for crypto heavy guests | 15:24 |
| gregwork | and director is an extremely heavy guest since its basically an all-in-one openstack deploy | 15:24 |
| gregwork | turning on tls+kerberos should probably require special handling | 15:25 |
| gregwork | at least recommend rngd be installed | 15:25 |
| gregwork | or havengd | 15:25 |
| gregwork | on the upside, i exposed latency sensitivity in the ironic/neutron/nova dance ? | 15:26 |
| gregwork | heh | 15:26 |
| gregwork | something to think about i guess from a dev pov | 15:26 |
| rpittau | dtantsur: oh geez, ok :/ | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | gregwork: oh wow..... so it is not 30 seconds, but 30 times btw, :) | 15:28 |
| TheJulia | gregwork: Well, thanks for the update, sorry you've been righting that pain. Perhaps enjoy a beer for international beer day? | 15:28 |
| gregwork | haha | 15:29 |
| gregwork | talking with some redhat pros that do installs they said they always deploy the director on a vm because of the snapshotting they do | 15:29 |
| gregwork | so this is a real factor to consider | 15:29 |
| gregwork | given the time involved in setting up director and the value of snapping back to known clean states | 15:30 |
| gregwork | i think its a good idea to consider it being a vm | 15:30 |
| gregwork | and subject to this | 15:30 |
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| rpioso | Good morning, ironicers. | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Update software RAID configuration documentation https://review.opendev.org/674019 | 15:50 |
| dtantsur | morning rpioso | 15:51 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Hey! | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Varsha Verma proposed openstack/sushy-tools master: Add Storage and Storage Controllers resource support https://review.opendev.org/674339 | 16:05 |
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| dtantsur|afk | have a great weekend, all! I'm out on Monday, so see you on Tuesday | 16:39 |
| rpittau | thanks! you too! | 16:39 |
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| rpittau|afk | bye all, have a great weekend! | 16:46 |
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| * etingof thinks that oem action support in sushy is broken even more severely than regular action support | 17:10 | |
| * rpioso wonders why etingof thinks that? | 17:11 | |
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| etingof | rpioso, most importantly, vendor ID is not picked from action namespace mixing up actions from multiple vendors | 17:12 |
| * rpioso scratches his head | 17:13 | |
| etingof | that's on top of that oem action fields are not parsed in the same way as non-oem action fields | 17:13 |
| etingof | which is on top of the fact that sushy does not offer any reasonable abstraction for any action | 17:13 |
| * rpioso pulls up the code | 17:13 | |
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| etingof | rpioso, do not do that! enjoy your weekend! | 17:14 |
| rpioso | etingof: LOL | 17:14 |
| etingof | rpioso, expanding on the first point: as far as I can understand Redfish, in Actions JSON you have it like {"Actions": {"Oem": {"Dell.v2_0#SomeInsanity": ...}}} | 17:16 |
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| etingof | (I missed # before Dell) | 17:17 |
| etingof | so #Dell.v2_0 should tell us that this object belongs to Dell OEM | 17:17 |
| etingof | which sushy happily ignores | 17:17 |
| * rpioso prefers {"Actions": {"Oem": {"#Dell.v2_0#Awesomeness": ...}}} or similar ;-) | 17:17 | |
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| etingof | that's what I mean indeed | 17:18 |
| rpioso | I see https://opendev.org/openstack/sushy/src/commit/66a2af1fc2f45c94ab8a3fbd091b35eeec99918c/sushy/resources/oem/fake.py#L30 | 17:21 |
| rpioso | Does stevedore and the sushy's OEM foundation care about the standard particulars or any specific implementation of it? | 17:21 |
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| rpioso | etingof: Couldn't that code be: reset_action = base.Field(['Actions', 'Oem', 'Atypical.LetsGo'] ? | 17:23 |
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| * rpioso has read the code, but not played with it. | 17:24 | |
| etingof | well, here is how it'd done for the root resource -- https://opendev.org/openstack/sushy/src/branch/master/sushy/resources/system/system.py#L136 | 17:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Varsha Verma proposed openstack/sushy-tools master: Add Storage and Storage Controllers resource support https://review.opendev.org/674339 | 17:28 |
| rpioso | etingof: How is System._actions used? | 17:30 |
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| etingof | I think it's never used because 'reset' attribute is magically put in its place | 17:32 |
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| etingof | so it feels messy to me | 17:33 |
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| rpioso | etingof: It's used in the action-related methods defined by System. | 17:34 |
| rpioso | etingof: It's not directly accessible to clients. | 17:34 |
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| etingof | yes, that's what I mean | 17:34 |
| etingof | also, I'm suspicious re OEM action properties naming... Name like 'OemManager.v1_0#OemManager....' does not carry any hint that this property belongs to Dell... | 17:35 |
| etingof | my reading of Redfish spec gives me the feeling that it should better look like 'Dell_OemManager.v1_0#OemManager...' | 17:36 |
| rpioso | etingof: Actions are by their very nature are messy -- "Actions are Redfish operations that do not easily map to RESTful interface semantics." | 17:36 |
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| etingof | so in sushy we are well-aligned with the standard | 17:36 |
| * etingof is referring to chapter 7.5.7.3 here -- https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0266_1.5.0.pdf | 17:37 | |
| rpioso | etingof: That may look better, but I don't believe it functionally matters. The OEM content is defined by the vendor. The vendor needs to deal with name collisions, if any, within 'Oem'. | 17:38 |
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| etingof | since Actions->Oem does not have any vendor isolation layer, the naming seems utterly important here | 17:39 |
| etingof | perhaps that's why they note naming conventions in 7.5.7.3 | 17:40 |
| etingof | interestingly, it's different in Resource->Oem because there they have vendor ID i.e. Resource->Oem->Dell | 17:41 |
| rpioso | etingof: It's a resource published by a Redfish service, which is often implemented by a vendor. The vendor needs to ensure there are no name collisions. | 17:42 |
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| rpioso | etingof: If there's a name collision, then that would be problematic. | 17:43 |
| etingof | well, how is Actions branch different from Resource branch? why they separate OEM resources per vendor, but do not do that explicitly for Actions...? | 17:44 |
| rpioso | etingof: Doesn't 7.5.7.3 cover Oem property naming, instead of Oem action naming? | 17:45 |
| * rpioso prefers the latest version of the spec -- https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0266_1.7.0.pdf | 17:46 | |
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| rpioso | etingof: 7.5.8.1 covers Oem action naming. | 17:48 |
| rpioso | etingof: There appears to be a difference between the standard and implementation. Aside from tidiness, do you think it matters? | 17:49 |
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| * etingof can't locate 7.5.8.1 in the latest rpioso's link | 17:50 | |
| rpioso | etingof: It's in your link :-) | 17:51 |
| etingof | ah, it's now 8.7.5 | 17:52 |
| rpioso | etingof: 9.7.5 | 17:53 |
| etingof | yes, that's what I wanted to paste | 17:54 |
| rpioso | etingof: :-) | 17:54 |
| etingof | so they say the key should be 'QualifiedActionName' | 17:54 |
| rpioso | etingof: And that's not formally defined :-( | 17:54 |
| etingof | afaik, that's empty for standard things | 17:55 |
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| rpioso | etingof: The description of 'QualifiedActionName' does state it should contain the namespace. | 17:55 |
| etingof | yes | 17:56 |
| etingof | that makes me think that it should better look like #Dell_OemManager | 17:56 |
| rpioso | etingof: Is that a nit or important? | 17:56 |
| * rpioso wants to be sure he understands | 17:57 | |
| * rpioso keeps reminding himself that the spec and its implementations are evolving. | 17:58 | |
| etingof | that's hard to say now... I can offer you this scenario - two vendors come up with colliding non-namespaced keys. That worked fine till a new product is built incorporating hardware resources from both vendors... | 18:00 |
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| rpioso | etingof: So if the System from vendor Foo contains components from itself and suppliers Bar and Baz, then those three vendors must not have name collisions in Oem. Vendor Foo must ensure that now and in the future, even as it changes its component suppliers. | 18:04 |
| rpioso | etingof: However, System vendor Foo doesn't need to concern itself with System vendor LatestFoo. | 18:05 |
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| etingof | rpioso, what if component suppliers have their redfish schemas already well-known and supported in client software? Meaning that renaming conflicting actions even being a part of a larger product may not be desirable? | 18:06 |
| rpioso | etingof: I get that. | 18:07 |
| etingof | I have another argument | 18:07 |
| rpioso | etingof: There will be issues and bugs. | 18:08 |
| rpioso | etingof: I agree it would be better now and in the future. | 18:08 |
| etingof | it seems to me that existing way of getting hold of specific Action in sushy (https://opendev.org/openstack/sushy/src/commit/66a2af1fc2f45c94ab8a3fbd091b35eeec99918c/sushy/resources/oem/fake.py#L30) by fully specified key is somewhat rigid | 18:09 |
| etingof | because it might include schema version | 18:10 |
| guilhermesp | so dtantsur|afk seems that is only working for me here with coreos images https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/stein/install/deploy-ramdisk.html | 18:10 |
| etingof | so if we have it hardcoded into client sw, it will stop working when server implementation change anything there | 18:10 |
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| rpioso | etingof: Isn't it both flexible and rigid? | 18:11 |
| etingof | it would probably be better to cut by # and use the tail piece as action name | 18:11 |
| etingof | (that's what is happening with standard resources - schema version is not in the key) | 18:12 |
| rpioso | etingof: It accommodates today's interesting implementations. | 18:12 |
| rpioso | etingof: Do you have concerns about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/463829/ | 18:13 |
| patchbot | patch 463829 - sushy - Add foundation for supporting Redfish OEMs (MERGED) - 20 patch sets | 18:13 |
| etingof | but then we would have to take apart the leading token which includes unique namespace and schema version, drop schema version, match the desired action against vendor ID | 18:13 |
| etingof | that's all to argue that 'Dell_v1.0#Oem.Awesomeness' would probably work better | 18:14 |
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| etingof | it can be even 'Dell_Oem_Awesome_ness_v1.0#Oem.Awesomeness', the only important thing is to have a way to get unique vendor ID | 18:15 |
| etingof | yes, that's the patch | 18:16 |
| guilhermesp | dtantsur|afk: but I suspect the node that was stuck is with problems with the nvme device... because I'm using the same coreos images on it and it is still in clean wait ... anyways, thanks fro your help | 18:19 |
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| rpioso | TheJulia: Where can I find the Ironic Train release schedule? | 21:11 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: we don't publish a specific schedule, but we have to create stable/train for RC1 | 21:11 |
| TheJulia | as part o the openstack community RC1 release | 21:12 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: When's our Train feature freeze? | 21:12 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: We generally soft freeze around ~2 weeks prior to having to cut that branch, but exceptions can and have been made in the past. The key is knowing sooner rather than later and communicating that need/want. | 21:14 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: That soft freeze is more so we don't break the gate, so if it is not directly upstream CI tested, then it is easier to accept | 21:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Update software RAID configuration documentation https://review.opendev.org/674019 | 21:18 |
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| rpioso | TheJulia: Do you mean "so if it isn't directly exercised by the upstream CI testing, then it is easier to accept, because it doesn't introduce risk to the stability of the CI"? | 21:30 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: correct | 21:30 |
| * rpioso is just trying to understand on a late Friday | 21:30 | |
| rpioso | TheJulia: Thank you so much! | 21:30 |
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| TheJulia | rpioso: Any stability impact to CI during those last few weeks makes for grumpy cores trying to get things into a state where we can release | 21:31 |
| TheJulia | mainly because those weeks tend to be very very long weeks. | 21:31 |
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| * rpioso is all for keeping cores very, very happy and rested | 21:40 | |
| TheJulia | doesn't really work for end of cycle, but the thought counts! :) | 21:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sushy master: Action #Bios.ResetBios fails as POST request has no body https://review.opendev.org/671413 | 21:56 |
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| rpioso | TheJulia: :-) | 22:19 |
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