Wednesday, 2019-05-29

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dtantsurmorning ironic06:00
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arne_wiebalckgood morning dtantsur and ironic o/06:29
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Trivial: correct configuration option copy-pased from inspector  https://review.opendev.org/66189406:36
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dtantsurrpittau|afk: morning! I could use a review on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/653382/ when you're online06:43
patchbotpatch 653382 - ironic-inspector - Expose baremetal-introspection endpoint via mdns - 6 patch sets06:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-specs master: Add followup to indicator management  https://review.opendev.org/66135007:17
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rpittaugood morning ironic! o/07:23
rpittauhappy hump day!07:23
rpittaudtantsur: good morning! I'll get to that ASAP :)07:25
dtantsurthx07:26
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iurygregorymorning dtantsur arne_wiebalck rpittau and Ironic o/07:54
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arne_wiebalckiurygregory: o/08:10
iurygregoryo/08:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Relax checksum fields validation  https://review.opendev.org/66120208:32
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Clean up release notes  https://review.opendev.org/66191908:55
dtantsurTheJulia: ^^08:56
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Do not run bashate on generated TinyIPA files  https://review.opendev.org/66192009:03
dtantsureasy fix if anybody has time ^^09:04
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: [WIP] Fetch baremetal-introspection endpoint from mdns  https://review.opendev.org/65201709:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-inspector master: Expose baremetal-introspection endpoint via mdns  https://review.opendev.org/65338210:19
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: [WIP] Supports fetching API endpoints from mDNS  https://review.opendev.org/65201710:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Trivial: correct configuration option copy-pased from inspector  https://review.opendev.org/66189410:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Add note for alternative checksums  https://review.opendev.org/65384010:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Do not run bashate on generated TinyIPA files  https://review.opendev.org/66192010:48
TheJuliaGood morning10:51
TheJuliadtantsur|lunch: approved10:52
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arne_wiebalckTheJulia: o/10:54
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* TheJulia gets to start the trek home today and is super happy about that10:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Clean up release notes  https://review.opendev.org/66191911:00
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TheJuliajroll: can you ake a quick look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/660145/ if you have a minute today11:06
patchbotpatch 660145 - ironic-specs - Add train priorities - 3 patch sets11:06
jrollmorning TheJulia, sure :)11:07
TheJuliathanks!11:08
jrolland done11:09
TheJulia\o/11:12
TheJuliathanks11:12
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Quick follow-up change to train priorities  https://review.opendev.org/66194111:12
rpittauhi TheJulia :)11:13
jroll^ approved that one for you too11:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-specs master: Add train priorities  https://review.opendev.org/66014511:17
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TheJuliajroll: thanks11:21
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iurygregorymorning TheJulia and jroll o/11:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-specs master: Quick follow-up change to train priorities  https://review.opendev.org/66194111:33
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* TheJulia hopes pep8 will work again11:35
* TheJulia crosses fingers11:35
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* etingof noted that ironic has almost 6K unit tests12:08
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TheJuliaindeed12:36
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* TheJulia lets all of htem run to see if things pass12:42
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rpiosoGood morning, ironicers13:14
rpittauhey rpioso  :)13:15
iurygregorymorning rpioso13:20
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arne_wiebalckgood morning rpioso jroll o/13:28
rpiosoarne_wiebalck, iurygregory, rpittau: \o13:28
jroll\o13:31
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openstackgerritIlya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Add Redfish Virtual Media support  https://review.opendev.org/63845313:39
* TheJulia ponders locking13:40
etingofdo we have a stray reno, or is it alright? -- https://github.com/openstack/ironic/tree/master/ironic/releasenotes/notes13:44
dtantsuretingof: yes, no :)13:45
TheJuliathey can just be moved13:50
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-lib master: mdns: allow quoting in the [mdns]params configuration option  https://review.opendev.org/66199013:57
dtantsuranother small issue in the mdns code ^^ (also TIL!)13:57
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jrolldtantsur: is that testable?14:03
jrollprobably fine without, just curious14:03
dtantsurjroll: well, the magic happens when loading config files, so not quite testable with CONF.set_override14:04
dtantsur(I did test it locally)14:04
jrollah I see14:06
* etingof is moving the reno14:06
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* dtantsur starts IPA on a normal VM because mDNS doesn't Work On DevStack (c)14:09
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dtantsurwow it works14:10
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iurygregory\o/14:11
iurygregorymDNS got a "It works on DevStack" seal14:11
dtantsurlol14:11
dtantsurheh, ironic-inspector is on devstack, but I'm starting IPA on a normal VM on the same network14:12
rpittauso I guess only way to test on devstack would a vm inside a vm inside devstack?14:12
dtantsurwell, my VMs are on OpenStack, sooo ;)14:12
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iurygregorydevstack inception14:12
rpittaudevstack-ception14:13
rpittaulol14:13
iurygregoryrpittau++14:13
rpittauxD14:13
dtantsurTheJulia: I'd like to release ironic-lib again after the mdns merges14:14
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w14161_1Hello, why ironic did not implement the function that collect IPMI usr name and password of all the baremetal machines automatcially like MAAS did? I knew inspector has such kind of function but the inspector works after the provision process, if ironic has such function before provision, that would be more useful. Without this function, collect such kind of info was a big trouble. Thx14:25
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dtantsurw14161_1: it's not possible to "collect passwords", I think MaaS resets them to some value14:27
dtantsurit has been subject to many debates, but in the end was deemed too error-prone and hardware-specific14:28
w14161_1Yes, I mean ironic resets and collect them.14:28
dtantsurthe winning argument was IIRC that the world is slowly switching to redfish, where it's essentially impossible14:28
dtantsurit could be written as an out-of-tree ironic-inspector plugin14:29
dtantsurthat connects to the node by SSH on discovery and does the IPMI commands14:29
w14161_1Did inspector can work without provsiion?14:30
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w14161_1MAAS did this by PXE and DHCP, it setup a default PXE server, deploy a kernel image that contains IPMI tool, which did all this work14:31
w14161_1User just need to power on every baremetal machines, then the info would be collected togther.14:32
w14161_1If ironic can did this also, that would be great14:32
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w14161_1So far, IPMI was still the main stream, redfish were not popular like IPMI yet.14:34
w14161_1Did we have links to the old discussion for this topic, I work at ironic not for long time yet.14:38
openstackgerritIlya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic master: Move stray reno file  https://review.opendev.org/66199814:38
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: Add a locking interface  https://review.opendev.org/59919114:38
TheJuliadtantsur: re-mdns sure14:38
dtantsurw14161_1: we can do auto-discovery, but we do not change passwords. we expect the operators to use e.g. introspection rules (or any other automation) to provide the default credentials (or e.g. take them from a CMDB)14:39
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TheJuliaw14161_1: indeed regarding the mechanisms that can be used, although it doesn't work on every platform or model. If you search out there you can see where people have followed the same commands have locked themselves out trying to assert new BMC credentials. There is also the risk of overwriting other legitimate credentials as well.14:41
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* etingof welcomes reviews for his vmedia patch -- https://review.opendev.org/#/c/638453/14:42
patchbotpatch 638453 - ironic - WIP: Add Redfish Virtual Media support - 20 patch sets14:42
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etingof^ seems to work in devstack modulo unit tests and docs (under development)14:44
etingofmay be it'd be easier on reviewers to ship tests & docs for ^ separately...?14:47
etingofthe patch ^ is solidly red in gerrit already14:48
w14161_1dtantsur, did auto-discovery you mentioned means inpsector's function? I thougth inspector only can work after provison, was that right? inspector can not work at baremetal machines, it dependes on ironic conductor and api modules finished provision.14:49
dtantsuretingof: fine with docs, unit tests should go in the same patch IMO14:50
TheJuliaetingof: +1 to dtantsur's statement14:50
dtantsurw14161_1: it's not right: https://docs.openstack.org/ironic-inspector/latest/user/usage.html#discovery14:50
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Supports fetching API endpoints from mDNS  https://review.opendev.org/65201714:59
dtantsurTheJulia: this may be it ^^^14:59
TheJuliadtantsur: ack14:59
TheJuliadtantsur: I feel like we should always kind of try to check-in with inspection if it is out there in the universe15:00
TheJuliaif it records/saves that is a whole other matter15:00
* dtantsur will think about it15:01
dtantsurFWIW it can be done in a separate patch (with an explicit release note), and probably with a way to opt-out?15:02
w14161_1dtantsur, thx, very useful information. So with inspector, irnoic can auto-discover every baremetal nodes and enroll them, include IPMI user name and password like MAAS did? Conductor or API module did not implement this because it was not general?15:07
dtantsurw14161_1: we don't touch IPMI passwords15:10
w14161_1TheJulia, thanks for reminding. It looks resets ipmi username and password has risk.15:10
dtantsurit is risky indeed15:10
dtantsurironic-inspector only does non-destructive actions, both during discovery and regular introspection15:11
w14161_1Dtantsur, so even with inspector, can not get IPMI current passowrd?15:11
dtantsurw14161_1: it's not possible to get it, only change and return. and changing is a destructive operation.15:12
arne_wiebalckTheJulia: dtantsur: For the RAID patches, I guess 640810 should probably depend on both 639390 and 634681 (these two contain all RAID related code changes in the IPA), rather than only on one, right?15:12
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dtantsurarne_wiebalck: you can depend on the topmost patch15:12
TheJuliaarne_wiebalck: yeah, multiple dependencies is fine15:12
dtantsur(since they're stacked)15:13
TheJuliaor the topmost15:13
TheJuliait all works :)15:13
arne_wiebalckTheJulia: dtantsur: ok, thx!15:13
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w14161_1dtantsur, If so, for a large number of new baremetal nodes, what's the suggest way to get password and user name of IPMI if use ironic? Just mannually input them one by one into HW_INFO_FILE?15:14
dtantsurw14161_1: it depends. if your hardware has the same initial password, you can set it automatically using introspection rules.15:15
dtantsurif you have a CMDB with passwords, you can write an ironic-inspector plugin that sets them.15:15
w14161_1What did you mean CMDB?15:16
dtantsurw14161_1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Configuration_management_database15:17
dtantsurTheJulia: re mDNS, I'd prefer we move on with this patch without changing behaviour too much, and I follow up with inspection changes after I think more about the implications.15:17
TheJuliadtantsur: sounds perfect15:18
w14161_1For proffesional netowrk administrator, they prefer to use rule for rack nubmer, slot number, iP address, for example a machine r17s01 which has ip 192.168.17.01, did ironic has tool to setup rack, slot, IP, ipmi ip with this kind of rule?15:19
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w14161_1r17s01 means rack 17, slot 0115:21
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dtantsurw14161_1: I'm not sure what exactly you mean. Do you mean automatically rename nodes?15:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Move stray reno file  https://review.opendev.org/66199815:23
w14161_1dtantsur, I mean whether inspector can get information of every baremetal nodes amd has the capability to get info like rack number, slot number, set IP according rack number and slot number.15:24
dtantsurw14161_1: ironic doesn't set IP addresses, they're usually set via Neutron when Nova creates a port. We don't even have power over that.15:24
dtantsurI'm not sure if we can get rack/slot numbers. Are they even available programmatically?15:26
w14161_1dtantsur, I means write ip at cloud-init info of image before deploy os image, ironic does not touch this?15:26
dtantsuryeah, we don't modify configdrive15:26
* TheJulia reads15:27
TheJuliaevery site I've worked in has had a different rack/system numbering scheme....15:27
w14161_1For rack slot numbers, I am not uqite clear also yet. just wonder whether ironic handle them before15:28
TheJuliaIt can't really unless someone has burned such data in, and there is no real standard for that15:28
TheJuliaI suspect redfish from the centralized manager view has it, but that is disjointed from the system resource15:28
w14161_1TheJulia, got it, thx.15:29
TheJuliaand someone still has to somehow model that for their operation/site.15:29
TheJulia:(15:29
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openstackgerritArne Wiebalck proposed openstack/ironic master: Software RAID: Trigger grub installation on the holder disks  https://review.opendev.org/64081015:37
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dtantsur|afksee you on Friday15:51
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openstackgerritIlya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic master: Fix binary file upload to Swift  https://review.opendev.org/65906116:02
openstackgerritIlya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Add Redfish Virtual Media support  https://review.opendev.org/63845316:02
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rpittaubye, see you on monday! o/16:06
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arne_wiebalckbye, see you on Friday o/16:10
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/networking-baremetal stable/pike: Install Neutron from stable/pike  https://review.opendev.org/66203016:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-lib master: mdns: allow quoting in the [mdns]params configuration option  https://review.opendev.org/66199016:43
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TheJulia:)17:04
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openstackgerritRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/bifrost master: Fix troubleshooting docs - SSH access to CoreOS  https://review.opendev.org/66205717:52
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yoctozeptoregarding https://review.opendev.org/662057 - I wonder what this short-circuting was meant to mean18:00
patchbotpatch 662057 - bifrost - Fix troubleshooting docs - SSH access to CoreOS - 1 patch set18:00
yoctozeptosounds like brain dump18:01
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NobodyCamGood morning ironic’ers19:45
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