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| dnuka | good morning folks o/ | 04:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Limit the timeout value of heartbeat_timeout https://review.openstack.org/632235 | 07:04 |
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| iurygregory_wfh | good morning everyone o/ | 07:25 |
| dnuka | morning iurygregory_wfh o/ | 07:27 |
| iurygregory_wfh | dnuka, o/ | 07:27 |
| arne_wiebalck | good morning everyone! | 07:30 |
| dnuka | good morning arne_wiebalck o/ | 07:31 |
| arne_wiebalck | dnuka: o/ | 07:31 |
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| rpittau | good morning ironic! o/ | 07:33 |
| dnuka | morning rpittau o/ | 07:33 |
| arne_wiebalck | hey rpittau o/ | 07:34 |
| rpittau | hi dnuka :) | 07:35 |
| rpittau | hey arne_wiebalck :) | 07:35 |
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| iurygregory_wfh | morning rpittau arne_wiebalck o/ | 08:08 |
| rpittau | hi iurygregory_wfh :) | 08:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | M V P Nitesh proposed openstack/ironic master: Provides mount point as cinder requires it to attach volume https://review.openstack.org/633459 | 09:23 |
| openstackgerrit | M V P Nitesh proposed openstack/ironic master: Provides mount point as cinder requires it to attach volume https://review.openstack.org/633459 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [DO NOT MERGE] [PROTOTYPE] Use JSON-RPC instead of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/633052 | 09:31 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic | 09:32 |
| rpittau | hi dtantsur :) | 09:33 |
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| arne_wiebalck | morning dtantsur o/ | 09:45 |
| dtantsur | \o | 09:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Allocation API: conductor API (without HA and take over) https://review.openstack.org/628223 | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Allocation API: REST API implementation https://review.openstack.org/629260 | 10:01 |
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| dnuka | morning dtantsur o/ | 10:15 |
| iurygregory_wfh | morning dtantsur o/ had a safe trip back? | 10:16 |
| dtantsur | yeah, it was okay. just long :) | 10:16 |
| iurygregory_wfh | nice =) | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [DO NOT MERGE] [PROTOTYPE] Use JSON-RPC instead of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/633052 | 10:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/sushy-tools master: Move to zuulv3 https://review.openstack.org/633473 | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/bifrost master: Allow Ironic URL to use env vars in bifrost_inventory.py https://review.openstack.org/633476 | 10:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Riccardo Pittau proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Build tinyipa with tinycore 8.x https://review.openstack.org/633479 | 11:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sushy-tools master: Update home-page https://review.openstack.org/630122 | 11:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [DO NOT MERGE] [PROTOTYPE] Use JSON-RPC instead of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/633052 | 11:38 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: filed https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2004874 for my JSON RPC work (it started passing the CI jobs \o/) | 12:57 |
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| iurygregory_wfh | gtz dtantsur =D | 13:01 |
| dtantsur | heh | 13:01 |
| dnuka | dtantsur, I don't understand this completely, but this seems pretty cool :) | 13:02 |
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| sburette | hello everybody. | 13:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/bifrost master: Install dpkg on SuSE family https://review.openstack.org/633490 | 13:08 |
| sburette | Working on integrating Ironic in our Openstack Infrastructure, and got a question about rescuing : for the moment, the Ironic API just lets pass a rescue password to be set on rescue node. What about supporting an SSH key ? | 13:08 |
| sburette | * SSH key instead of password | 13:09 |
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| dtantsur | sburette: I think it's a nova limitation, not ours. | 13:11 |
| dtantsur | at least it seems that 'openstack server rescue' does not accept an SSH key | 13:12 |
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| sburette | dtantsur: sure but the Ironic API doesnot let qualify the random length string called rescue_password in the ConductorManager | 13:18 |
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| zenpac | My "openstack baremetal node show $node --fields properties" and 'openstack flavor show compute -c properties' don't show the same data. Do they need to match in order for Overcloud to create? Right now I get errors that look like "Not enough nodes". | 13:30 |
| dtantsur | sburette: sorry, I'm not sure how password length is related to SSH keys.. it, again, may not be our limitation. | 13:32 |
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| dtantsur | zenpac: only some fields have to match. check https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/admin/troubleshooting.html#nova-returns-no-valid-host-was-found-error | 13:32 |
| zenpac | http://paste.debian.net/1062884/ | 13:34 |
| zenpac | I was able to get all of Undercloud installed ok. Should I post my logs in a paste? | 13:35 |
| dtantsur | zenpac: this part looks okay, please check the other points in the doc above | 13:35 |
| zenpac | dtantsur: ok, I thought the Mem/CPU stuff had to match. | 13:36 |
| dtantsur | nope, not necessary | 13:36 |
| zenpac | ;Warning | 13:42 |
| zenpac | If you’re using exact match filters in the Nova Scheduler, make sure the flavor and the node properties match exactly.; | 13:42 |
| zenpac | Of course I dont know anything about exact match filters. | 13:43 |
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| dtantsur | then you probably don't use them | 13:48 |
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| zenpac | http://paste.debian.net/1062891/ is most of that data. I can't see what is wrong though. | 13:49 |
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| dtantsur | zenpac: looks good at a quick glance. you may want to check the nova-schedule logs for the exact filter that removed the nodes. | 13:51 |
| zenpac | I think I tried that as per the docs on that page, I see nothing. | 13:52 |
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| zenpac | '2019-01-25 16:06:28.927 6679 INFO nova.filters [req-3e89a178-6656-4550-bde9-aa19612c1bb5 ac668632f5cb4a70b8419ce53d4e3aa6 52081d95b14d4a43b9b63d79d3a8b786 - default default] Filter DiskFilter returned 0 hosts' perhaps? | 13:54 |
| dtantsur | zenpac: what openstack version do you have? | 13:55 |
| dtantsur | I know DiskFilter stopped working for ironic at some point | 13:55 |
| zenpac | dtantsur: All of those errors are for DiskFilter. I'll check... openstack 3.14.3 (queens perhaps). | 13:56 |
| dtantsur | 3.14.3 says nothing to me, could you please double-check the openstack version (queens, rocky, ..?) | 13:57 |
| dtantsur | zenpac: also, even though it should not matter any more, you're trying to use a node with local_gb=39 with a flavor requesting disk=40 | 13:58 |
| dtantsur | or rather: it does not matter for scheduling. but IIRC nova requests the root partition of size 40, while ironic thinks it only has 39 | 13:59 |
| zenpac | Perhaps that is the issue with the DiskFilter. | 13:59 |
| dtantsur | it's probably not even the DiskFilter, but a later validation inside ironic | 13:59 |
| dtantsur | because you cannot allocation / partition of 40 GiB on a disk with 39 GiB. you actually need at least 41. | 13:59 |
| dtantsur | maybe lower the disk in the flavor? | 14:00 |
| zenpac | Ok.. I'll try that. | 14:00 |
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| zenpac | Yea we have Queens here. | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [DO NOT MERGE] [PROTOTYPE] Use JSON-RPC instead of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/633052 | 14:02 |
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| zenpac | dtantsur: Perhaps I can enlarge the disk and re-run the introspection? | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [DO NOT MERGE] [PROTOTYPE] Use JSON-RPC instead of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/633052 | 14:04 |
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| dtantsur | zenpac: that's an option as well (probably a better one, 40G is not much) | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [PROTOTYPE] Use JSON-RPC instead of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/633052 | 14:49 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: up for chairing the meeting or should I? | 14:56 |
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| iurygregory_wfh | I think is you dtantsur | 14:56 |
| dtantsur | looks so :) | 14:58 |
| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 28 15:00:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 15:00 |
| dtantsur | Hi all! Who is here for the most ironic meeting in the world? :) | 15:00 |
| dnuka | o/ | 15:00 |
| kaifeng | o/ | 15:00 |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:00 |
| tendulke | o/ | 15:00 |
| bdodd | o/ | 15:00 |
| etingof | o/ | 15:00 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 15:00 |
| mjturek | \o | 15:00 |
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| mgoddard | \o | 15:00 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | o/ | 15:00 |
| dtantsur | Welcome everyone! Our agenda is as usual here: | 15:01 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 15:01 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminder (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:01 | |
| dtantsur | #info TheJulia is traveling for on-site meetings this week | 15:01 |
| dtantsur | this was from last week's agenda, but I guess it still holds | 15:01 |
| rpittau | o/ | 15:02 |
| iurygregory_wfh | o/ | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | #info Successful midcycle last week: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-stein-midcycle | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | please review the notes and do not forget any actions items you took :) | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | anything else to announce or remind of? | 15:02 |
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| dtantsur | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 15:03 |
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| dtantsur | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2019/ironic.2019-01-14-15.00.html | 15:03 |
| dtantsur | No action items here, so moving on | 15:03 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) | 15:03 |
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| hjensas | o/ | 15:04 |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard around line 233 | 15:04 |
| dtantsur | hjensas: how is neutron event processing progressing? | 15:05 |
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| hjensas | dtantsur: progress, but slow. I started looking at the event processor last week. I will continue this week. API patch also needs some more work. | 15:06 |
| dtantsur | does it make sense to put it on the priority list this week? | 15:07 |
| hjensas | mgoddard: was hesitant about merging the API version without also actually doing something with the events. I.e avoid introducing the changed behaviour without api version change later. | 15:08 |
| hjensas | dtantsur: ^ | 15:08 |
| dtantsur | well, "do nothing" will be supported behavior even afterwards, with the noop network interface | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | there are things we could do about that, such as not bumping the API version yet, or adding a second API version bump when we support an event | 15:09 |
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| dtantsur | I think we don't change API versions when drivers/interfaces start/stop supporting something | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | I guess I'm not a hard -1 based on that, just seems a little odd to change behaviour without an API bump | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | I suppose its unavoidable sometimes | 15:11 |
| rajinir | o/ | 15:13 |
| dtantsur | yeah, we do it quite often | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | anyway, let's bring it back to the patch | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | anything on the statuses? | 15:15 |
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| iurygregory_wfh | zuulv3 status is in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3_ironicprojects_legacyjobs | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | yeah, I added the link | 15:15 |
| iurygregory_wfh | almost finished =) | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3_ironicprojects_legacyjobs zuulv3 migration status | 15:16 |
| dtantsur | okay, moving on? | 15:16 |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 15:17 |
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| dtantsur | let me remove the finished things | 15:17 |
| dtantsur | hjensas, mgoddard, should we add the neutron events work to the priorities? | 15:17 |
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| mgoddard | hjensas: it needs an update right now, right? | 15:18 |
| hjensas | The API change needs an updated, to improve the data validation stuff. | 15:19 |
| dtantsur | hjensas: will you have time to keep updating is this week? | 15:19 |
| hjensas | I will work on it this week. | 15:19 |
| dtantsur | awesome | 15:19 |
| dtantsur | how's the list looking to everyone? | 15:20 |
| hjensas | no objections. :) | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | looks good. I'll aim to get deploy templates to a place where it could be on that list next week | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | or at least some of it | 15:22 |
| dtantsur | that would be really good | 15:22 |
| dtantsur | okay, moving to the discussion? | 15:22 |
| dtantsur | #topic Bikolla | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bikolla (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:23 | |
| dtantsur | mgoddard: the mic is yours | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | thanks | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | I've been working on a little project unimaginitively called bikolla | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | it uses kolla-ansible to deploy a standalone ironic cluster | 15:24 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | and parts of bifrost to build an image & deploy nodes | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | it's really just a proof of concept | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | the idea being that we get good support for standalone ironic in kolla-ansible, and potentially take pressure off of the ironic team with bifrost | 15:25 |
| dtantsur | yeah, I think the installation bits in bifrost kind of duplicate $many_other_installers | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | at the moment I have it working in a CentOS VM, using Tenks to create virtual bare metal | 15:26 |
| dtantsur | and switching to kolla sounds natural to me | 15:26 |
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| mgoddard | so really this is an invitation to anyone who's interested in this, or Tenks, to give it a try | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | https://github.com/markgoddard/bikolla | 15:27 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://github.com/markgoddard/bikolla prototype of kolla-ansible + bifrost | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | I think that's all I have to say for now, any questions/comments? | 15:27 |
| dtantsur | thanks mgoddard, this is curious | 15:27 |
| kaifeng | a dumb question, does this involve to container? | 15:28 |
| rpittau | mgoddard, that looks very interesting | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | kaifeng: not a dumb question! It uses the kolla containers, deployed via kolla-ansible | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | if you check the README, there is a dump of 'docker ps' | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | 11 containers :) | 15:29 |
| iurygregory_wfh | woa | 15:29 |
| kaifeng | oh yeah, i feel kolla is doing containerized deployment, but never take a look on it :) | 15:29 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard: I may have something to remove one of containers as the next topic ;) | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | dtantsur: kill it! | 15:30 |
| * dtantsur also wonders what iscsid is doing there | 15:30 | |
| mgoddard | poor little rabbit | 15:30 |
| dtantsur | hehe | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | iscsid is for iscsi deploys | 15:30 |
| rpittau | dtantsur, why hating rabbits so much? :D | 15:30 |
| dtantsur | yeah, but why a separate container? | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | why not? | 15:30 |
| dtantsur | I'm pretty sure we don't have it in tripleo | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | possibly not | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | you could run it on the host | 15:30 |
| dtantsur | well, that's an argument :) but ironic does not start the server on the conductor side, the server is on IPA | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | isn't the server tgtd? | 15:31 |
| mgoddard | client uses iscsid? | 15:31 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard: maybe? still a bit weird to have it as a separate container. I would assume it's for Cinder. | 15:31 |
| dtantsur | https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/4.0.0/cinder-guide.html#cinder-lvm2-back-end-with-iscsi | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | kolla puts everything in a container | 15:32 |
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| mgoddard | it can also be used for cinder | 15:32 |
| dtantsur | yeah, but I doubt ironic needs iscsid | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | turns out I'm using direct deploy interface by default (like bifrost), so won't use it anyway | 15:33 |
| dtantsur | maybe I don't know something about it | 15:33 |
| dtantsur | heh | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | anyways, thanks for listening, happy to help anyone wanting to use it | 15:33 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard++ | 15:34 |
| dtantsur | #topic RFE review | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFE review (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:34 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2004874 Support JSON-RPC as an alternative for oslo.messaging | 15:34 |
| dtantsur | #link https://review.openstack.org/633052 PoC patch | 15:35 |
| patchbot | patch 633052 - ironic - [PROTOTYPE] Use JSON-RPC instead of oslo.messaging - 8 patch sets | 15:35 |
| dtantsur | it actually passed all devstack jobs at one point (I changed it to remove the Flask dependency after that) | 15:35 |
| dtantsur | I think it's pretty cool for standalone usage like in bikolla/bifrost | 15:35 |
| dtantsur | I don't suggest we approve the RFE right now, but your comments are welcome :) | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | do you think it's suitable for non-standalone? | 15:36 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard: I don't see why not | 15:37 |
| dtantsur | but non-standalone case will have rabbitmq anyway (for nova and other services) | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | unless we can persuade them :) | 15:37 |
| dtantsur | I was told some of the projects actually use messaging queue features of oslo.msg | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | avoiding a middle-man seems like a good thing | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | any downsides? | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | resilience to conductor restarts? | 15:38 |
| dtantsur | yeah, a request will get aborted if a conductor fails mid-way | 15:38 |
| dtantsur | but since oslo.msg only implements "at most one" semantics, I think it can happen with it as well | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | lots of connections required if I run a million conductors? | 15:39 |
| kaifeng | hmm, actually that applies to rabbitmq too | 15:39 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard: if you have a million conductors, each of them will talk to rabbit | 15:39 |
| kaifeng | rabbitmq got retry ability, how about json-rpc? | 15:39 |
| dtantsur | kaifeng: it's just HTTP, you can use retries, https, etc | 15:40 |
| dtantsur | I don't even use a special client in my PoC patch, just plain 'requests' lib | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | dtantsur: true, although it puts the high fanout in one place (for better or worse) | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | seems like an interesting PoC | 15:40 |
| dtantsur | I guess I'll have to provide some kind of authentication for it before we can really land it | 15:41 |
| dtantsur | and HTTPs support | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | +1 | 15:41 |
| dtantsur | but early reviews and suggestions are welcome | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | on the large conductor count question, it might affect connection reuse | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | would need to be tested | 15:42 |
| dtantsur | how many conductors do people practically have? | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | ask oath :) | 15:43 |
| dtantsur | I don't think a million is anywhere near a realistic estimate :) | 15:43 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | with 1700 nodes we have 3 conductors | 15:43 |
| dtantsur | right | 15:43 |
| dtantsur | I'd bet a few dozens is enough for every practical case | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | yeah, not really expecting a millon | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | should expect so | 15:43 |
| dtantsur | #topic Open discussion | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:44 | |
| dtantsur | the floor is open | 15:44 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | I have a small issue | 15:44 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | I’d like some input on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632774 | 15:45 |
| patchbot | patch 632774 - ironic - Preserve BIOS boot order upon deployment - 4 patch sets | 15:45 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | this is a patch to always preserve the bios boot order | 15:45 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | to make it configurable to be precise | 15:45 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | while our use case is for IPMI, there were comments whether this should be applied to other h/w types as well | 15:46 |
| dtantsur | arne_wiebalck_: I'd call the new option "allow_persistent_boot_device" or something like that. and maybe have it in driver_info per node in addition to the config. | 15:46 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | dtantsur: I think I did now | 15:46 |
| dtantsur | it looks like you only use the config option: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632774/4/ironic/drivers/modules/pxe.py | 15:47 |
| patchbot | patch 632774 - ironic - Preserve BIOS boot order upon deployment - 4 patch sets | 15:47 |
| etingof | afaik, it's not just persistent, it's the device as the admin manually set on the node | 15:47 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | dtantsur: yes, sorry, I mis-read | 15:48 |
| dtantsur | hmm, yeah, I guess the current name makes sense as well | 15:48 |
| dtantsur | also I don't think it belongs in [agent] section, since it's not IPA-specific | 15:48 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | dtantsur: right kaifeng pointed this out as well | 15:48 |
| dtantsur | and I wonder if we should handle it on some top level, so that we don't have to put it in every boot interface | 15:48 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | dtantsur: so you think it’s should be available across all hardware types? | 15:49 |
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| dtantsur | yeah, I think this behavior should not change if you switch the driver | 15:49 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | it shouldn’t harm, just wasn’t sure if that will be useful to anyone but us | 15:49 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | dtantsur: that’s alos a point, yes | 15:50 |
| dtantsur | I think I see similar requests from customers from time to time | 15:50 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | s/alos/also/ | 15:50 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | ok, that would mean updating all h/w types | 15:50 |
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| dtantsur | this is why I wonder if we can avoid doing it by putting this logic somewhere | 15:51 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | ah, right | 15:52 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | I can have a look if that is possible | 15:52 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | otherwise, the change (as done for ipmi) is pretty simple | 15:53 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | and easy to understand | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | yeah | 15:53 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | cool, thx! | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | thanks arne_wiebalck_ | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | anyone has anything else? | 15:53 |
| kaifeng | I wonder if anyone awares something about inband instance monitoring? | 15:54 |
| dtantsur | we generally try to avoid touching anything in running instances | 15:55 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | this is/was also discussed in the context of a cmdb-like functionality | 15:56 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | if it is not possible to get data OOB | 15:56 |
| kaifeng | well, it's originated from need of customers, just want know if there is any mature design | 15:56 |
| kaifeng | there is need to collecting stats from bm instances, but it appears to me that the only way is to have a public ip and establish a monitoring server there. | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | kaifeng: we typically use monasca | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | allows for collecting control plane and user logs and metrics | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | users need to run agents on their instances | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | the nice thing is it's multi-tenant aware | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | it's quite complex though | 15:58 |
| arne_wiebalck_ | this is along the lines of the cmdb discussion, there was sth from rackspace at some point I think | 15:59 |
| kaifeng | it works for tenant network too? | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | kaifeng: http://www.stackhpc.com/monasca-comes-to-kolla.html | 15:59 |
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| kaifeng | thanks mgoddard, logged will take a look | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | kaifeng: you need to make the monasca API available to tenants | 16:00 |
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| mgoddard | kaifeng: ironic can collect stats via IPMI and send them as notifications via rabbitmq | 16:01 |
| kaifeng | oh, I have no idea of monasca | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | kaifeng: (that part is separate from monasca) | 16:01 |
| kaifeng | so it's oob | 16:01 |
| iurygregory_wfh | my experience with monasca i only say one word pain XD | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | monasca is usually in-band, via an agent. the ironic monitoring is OOB | 16:01 |
| iurygregory_wfh | not sure if is better now | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | iurygregory_wfh: yeah, it can be difficult | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | we put a lot of work into deploying it via kolla-ansible, so hopefully a bit easier to deploy now | 16:02 |
| iurygregory_wfh | main problem was memory XD | 16:02 |
| kaifeng | thanks anyway, I think I need to take a look at the monasca first :) | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | okay, let's wrap it up | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bare Metal Provisioning | Status: http://bit.ly/ironic-whiteboard | Docs: http://docs.openstack.org/ironic/ | Bugs: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/75 | Contributors are generally present between 6 AM and 12 AM UTC, If we do not answer, please feel free to pose questions to openstack-dev mailing list." | 16:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 28 16:02:48 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2019/ironic.2019-01-28-15.00.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2019/ironic.2019-01-28-15.00.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2019/ironic.2019-01-28-15.00.log.html | 16:02 |
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| mgoddard | kaifeng: prometheus is quite trendy at the moment. Much simpler than monasca, but not multi-tenant aware | 16:05 |
| kaifeng | mgoddard: all I know is prometheus is popular on moitoring containers :) | 16:06 |
| mgoddard | kaifeng: yeah, I think it can do some host monitoring too | 16:07 |
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| kaifeng | and it seems it's more related with k8s | 16:08 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning Ironic'ers | 16:13 |
| dtantsur | morning NobodyCam | 16:16 |
| iurygregory_wfh | morning NobodyCam | 16:16 |
| kaifeng | morning NobodyCam | 16:16 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning dtantsur iurygregory_wfh and kaifeng :) | 16:16 |
| * kaifeng feels guilty to say good night just after saying morning | 16:16 | |
| iurygregory_wfh | dtantsur, today in brno we have 7cm of snow hehe | 16:16 |
| NobodyCam | Happy Monday :p | 16:16 |
| NobodyCam | that's what UGT is all about | 16:17 |
| dtantsur | iurygregory_wfh: good :) | 16:17 |
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| rpittau | hi NobodyCam :) | 16:19 |
| NobodyCam | Hey hey rpittau Good Morning :) | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [PROTOTYPE] Use JSON-RPC instead of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/633052 | 16:48 |
| mgoddard | dtantsur: looks like you were right re iscsid, I killed the container and booted a node using the iscsi deploy interface | 16:59 |
| mgoddard | dtantsur: that's two containers down, any more you'd like to get rid of? | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | heh | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard: well, you could maybe use sqlite if you never plan on becoming multinode | 17:07 |
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| dtantsur | why do you need a container with cron btw? | 17:07 |
| mgoddard | dtantsur: true | 17:08 |
| mgoddard | dtantsur: cron is for log rotation | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | ah | 17:08 |
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| mgoddard | kolla-toolbox could be ditched, it just comes as standard with kolla | 17:08 |
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| mgoddard | multinode is on of the big drivers for this, so probably won't go for sqlite :) | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | then I guess that's it | 17:11 |
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| rpittau | bye all! good evening! o/ | 17:12 |
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