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openstackgerritlijunjie proposed openstack/ironic-ui master: Fix the misspelling of "expression"  https://review.openstack.org/63111702:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/virtualbmc master: Update README  https://review.openstack.org/63090702:59
openstackgerritKaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Follow-up Zuulv3 (Ironic jobs rename)  https://review.openstack.org/62947503:00
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dnukagood morning o/03:12
openstackgerritHarald Jensås proposed openstack/networking-baremetal master: WIP: Enable ironic notifications  https://review.openstack.org/57687303:13
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openstackgerritKaifeng Wang proposed openstack/networking-generic-switch master: Normalize mac address to be case insensitive  https://review.openstack.org/63114806:55
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arne_wiebalckgood morning, ironic o/07:20
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dnukagood morning arne_wiebalck07:52
arne_wiebalckhey dnuka !07:53
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rpittaugood morning ironic o/08:16
dnukagood morning rpittau :)08:17
rpittauhi dnuka :)08:17
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iurygregorygood morning everyone o/08:40
dnukamorning iurygregory o/08:41
rpittauhi iurygregory :)08:41
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etingofrpittau probably starts coding10:01
etingofgood morning, everyone ironic o/10:01
dnukamorning etingof o/10:02
openstackgerritIury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/ironic master: Online Data Migration for boot_interface  https://review.openstack.org/63117810:03
iurygregorymorning etingof =)10:03
rpittauhi etingof :)10:04
etingofphilosophically speaking, programmers feed on plants (coffee trees) by metabolizing their seeds (coffee beans) to produce the code... the open question is who is feeding on the code being produced...10:05
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dnuka:D10:06
rpittauoh gosh :D10:06
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iurygregorygood one etingof =)10:08
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openstackgerritparesh sao proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: OOB disk-erase for ilo5 based HPE Proliant Servers  https://review.openstack.org/63118110:16
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openstackgerritIury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/ironic master: Online Data Migration for boot_interface  https://review.openstack.org/63117810:18
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iurygregorydnuka, tks for the nit o/ I was typing fast lol10:20
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dnukaiurygregory, you're welcome :)10:22
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dtantsurmorning ironic!11:14
dtantsurlost traceback over night, please re-ping if needed11:14
dnukamorning dtantsur o/11:14
dtantsurs/traceback/scrollback/ (wut)11:15
rpittauhi dtantsur :)11:16
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/metalsmith master: Add sources.detect to detect various source types  https://review.openstack.org/63097911:40
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iurygregorymorning dtantsur12:05
iurygregoryetingof, tks for the review o/12:05
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openstackgerritIury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/ironic master: Online Data Migration for boot_interface  https://review.openstack.org/63117813:16
arne_wiebalckFrom what I see, Ironic makes a persistent change of the boot device to be the local disk at the end of a deployment. There may be deployments where this is13:16
arne_wiebalck not desired (like ours :-D). While we currently have a downstream patch with our own management-driver to overwrite 'set_boot_device' with persistent=False, would it make sense to proppose a patch which offered an option to make the last boot device change non-persistent?13:16
iurygregoryarne_wiebalck, since is something that could be configurable i think it makes sense (Im just not sure if the changes are big that would need a spec, it would depend on what it changes on the workflow i think) =)13:19
iurygregoryjust my thoughts =)13:19
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arne_wiebalckiurygregory: I’d think so, too (obviously) ;)13:19
arne_wiebalckiurygregory: I’m just not sure if that would be an option that only we use in the end :-D13:20
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dtantsurarne_wiebalck: I even thought there was such option..13:21
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iurygregorywell you have an UC for this probably, and maybe people didn't have this idea till the moment and you could end up helping others=)13:22
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: I think there is an option to force all changes to be persistent.13:22
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: Non-persistent is the default, but not for the last configure_local_boot bit.13:22
dtantsuroh, I see13:23
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: out of curiosity: why is it undesired?13:23
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: By policy, all our servers need to boot from the network first.13:23
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: or try to boot from network first13:24
openstackgerritRiccardo Pittau proposed openstack/ironic master: Implement basic interfaces for GraphicalConsole Interface  https://review.openstack.org/54735613:24
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: Also, Ironic may be used for allocation, but the actual installation is done by otehr mechanims.13:24
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: then do you want to stop calling set_boot_device altogether?13:24
dtantsurthis is what I had to do with "fake" management_interface because of buggy BMCs13:24
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: that would also work, I guess.13:25
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dtantsurarne_wiebalck: since Stein (?) you can use fake management with IPMI13:25
dtantsurwell, that assuming you don't need other management features..13:25
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arne_wiebalckdtantsur: What would be other mgmt features?13:25
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dtantsurarne_wiebalck: sensors, boot mode (BIOS vs UEFI)13:26
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: Our mgmt module is basically using ipmitool overwriting only the set_boot_device function.13:26
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arne_wiebalckdtantsur: Hmm, don’t think we use these now.13:27
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* arne_wiebalck imagines that an admin in a couple of years doesn’t understand why these features don’t work13:28
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etingofarne_wiebalck, perhaps setting instance_info/capabilities/boot_option=netboot won't help?13:32
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w14161_1was "ironic driver-list" command be already obeleted, use "openstack xxx " instead?13:33
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arne_wiebalcketingof: Uh, wasn’t aware of that option!13:34
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etingofcan this doc be understood as if non-local boot for partition images is theoretically possible? -- https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/pike/install/include/local-boot-partition-images.html13:34
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iurygregoryw14161_1, please use openstack baremetal CLI =)13:35
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w14161_1At https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/5.1.3/dev/dev-quickstart.html#deploying-ironic-with-devstack mentioned "ironic driver-list", seems the web-link should be updated?13:35
arne_wiebalcketingof: We use whole disk images, though.13:35
etingofarne_wiebalck, ha, in that case the doc is very clear13:35
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arne_wiebalcketingof: :(13:36
arne_wiebalcketingof: ;)13:36
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arne_wiebalckiurygregory: dtantsur: etingof: It’s not a big deal. I was just tesitng the waters if such an option would make sense for others.13:37
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/metalsmith master: Support specifying a subnet for NIC  https://review.openstack.org/63122113:37
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iurygregorymaybe see with operators in the ML?13:38
dtantsurarne_wiebalck: it does, just checking if the existing options may suit you13:38
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w14161_1Thx iurygregory, this was really useful information, more question:  Where can find the correct ironic installation guide? It seems the one at https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/5.1.3/dev/dev-quickstart.html#deploying-ironic-with-devstack not work13:40
arne_wiebalckiurygregory: good suggestion, thx! I haven’t seen many responses to such inquiries in the past.13:40
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arne_wiebalckdtantsur: Agreed!13:40
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iurygregoryw14161_1, try https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/contributor/dev-quickstart.html#deploying-ironic-with-devstack13:40
arne_wiebalckdtantsur: The fake driver is worth a look.13:41
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arne_wiebalckThanks for all your suggestions, I’ll think about it!13:41
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iurygregorygood luck arne_wiebalck o/13:42
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arne_wiebalckiurygregory: :)13:42
dtantsur|brbhjensas: will also test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631221/ today13:42
patchbotpatch 631221 - metalsmith - Support specifying a subnet for NIC - 1 patch set13:42
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w14161_1iurygregory, thx, this one seems a bit make sense, it use "openstack baremetal xxx" instead of "ironic xxx"13:45
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openstackgerritHamdy Khader proposed openstack/ironic master: Add is_smartnic to Port data model  https://review.openstack.org/62964013:45
openstackgerritHamdy Khader proposed openstack/ironic master: Expose is_smartnic in port API  https://review.openstack.org/63050813:45
openstackgerritHamdy Khader proposed openstack/ironic master: Add support for Smart NICs  https://review.openstack.org/58357313:45
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iurygregoryw14161_1, in Stein legacy CLI will be removed =)13:46
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w14161_1iurygregory, ok. More question, why some steps of ironic installation need to run over python virtual env?13:53
iurygregoryw14161_1, devstack is more used for devlopment, with virtualenv we avoid get problems when the system have different version for some packages13:54
w14161_1iurgregory, thanks for clarification! So https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/contributor/dev-quickstart.html#deploying-ironic-with-devstack was only for devstack inronic install? If not use devstack, where has the link for manual install ironic?13:57
arne_wiebalckw14161_1: https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/rocky/install/14:01
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arne_wiebalckw14161_1: docs.openstack.org is a good starting point to find such documentation14:02
w14161_1arne_wiebalck, great, thanks14:03
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arne_wiebalckw14161_1: np14:03
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iurygregoryw14161_1, i sent the devstack link since the one you used before was with devstack too, sorry14:03
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w14161_1arne_wiebalck, but some content of docs.openstack.org was not correct, need to pay attention.14:04
arne_wiebalckw14161_1: … need to pay attention and send improvement patches ;)14:05
w14161_1iurygregory, NP14:05
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w14161_1arne_wiebalck, sure. This was a good fruit to work start :-)14:06
arne_wiebalckw14161_1: :)14:06
w14161_1More question, if found docs.openstack's content was not correct, how to fix? Where to upudate it?14:07
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iurygregoryw14161_1, in the ironic repository14:09
iurygregoryhttps://github.com/openstack/ironic/tree/master/doc/source14:09
w14161_1Ok. so ironic source code would control the conetent of web site, great!14:09
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iurygregoryyou need to have an gerrit account (https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/setup-gerrit.html)14:10
openstackgerritDao Cong Tien proposed openstack/ironic master: Update doc for UEFI first  https://review.openstack.org/63122514:10
iurygregoryand this guide helps when you want to push a change https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/code-and-documentation/using-gerrit.html14:10
w14161_1Great, really helpful information!14:11
w14161_1More question, was ironic bug at storyboard?14:12
w14161_1If yes, how to know a item was a new bug at story board?14:12
w14161_1a "new" bug means no one own this yet14:13
iurygregoryyes ironic uses storyboard14:14
iurygregorywhen you found the story there is a field for tasks14:15
iurygregoryhttps://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200454614:15
w14161_1Thanks iurygregory, it seems you need to click and enter into the item, then you can see the "task field", anyway to knew a story is new quickly without clicking into it? If no way, then we need to click all the items one by one to find a new one.14:20
iurygregoryw14161_1, i didnt used much the storyboard so im not sure if exists the quick way =(14:21
iurygregorybut this is the list of priorities for Stein https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/worklist/49414:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/metalsmith master: Add sources.detect to detect various source types  https://review.openstack.org/63097914:26
w14161_1sure iurygregory, if you go into https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/ironic, you would get many items, but only know "acitve", "merged", "invalid" status of thsoe items, to know whether the item have task assigned, you need to go into click one by one, it seems a hard work :-)14:29
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openstackgerritHamdy Khader proposed openstack/python-ironicclient master: Add is-smartnic port attribute to port command  https://review.openstack.org/62944915:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/networking-generic-switch master: Normalize mac address to be case insensitive  https://review.openstack.org/63114815:13
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/metalsmith master: Support specifying a subnet for NIC  https://review.openstack.org/63122115:28
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NobodyCamGood Morning Ironic'ers15:38
iurygregorymorning NobodyCam15:40
NobodyCam:) morning iurygregory15:41
rpittauhi NobodyCam :)15:43
NobodyCamhey hey rpittau Happy Hump Day15:44
rpittauHappy Hump Day \o/15:44
NobodyCam:)15:44
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dtantsurmorning NobodyCam15:46
NobodyCamhey hey dtantsur How are you doing today? :)15:46
dnukamorning NobodyCam :)15:47
NobodyCammorning dnuka :)15:47
openstackgerritIury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/ironic master: Online Data Migration for boot_interface  https://review.openstack.org/63117815:49
dtantsurNobodyCam: cursing Neutron :D otherwise good :) you?15:53
NobodyCambattling OVS but otherwise good as well :p15:55
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rpittaubye all! good evening o/16:55
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NobodyCamnight rpittau17:00
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dtantsur|afksee you17:31
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Fix a regression in generate_upper_constraints.sh  https://review.openstack.org/63128617:38
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etingofsurprisingly, I can't locate vanilla JSON mocks for Redfish online. The DTMF mocks seem to render into html no matter how I ask...18:31
rpiosoetingof: This https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/DSP2043_1.2.0.zip ?18:37
rpiosoFound its link on https://www.dmtf.org/standards/redfish18:37
etingofhey, no, I mean sample (rendered) JSON docs, not schema18:38
etingofso that I could point my redfish client to it18:38
etingofI am looking for a static bmc emulator online, in other words18:39
rpiosobdodd: ^^^18:40
rpiosoetingof: How about https://github.com/DMTF/Redfish-Mockup-Server ?18:44
etingofthat's the tool, but I am looking for its hosted version18:45
rpiosoThanks to mraineri, "You can use that tool, point it to a mockup directory (it just a set of folders with JSON files), and it starts a web server to host those files. It only does GET operations though"18:45
rpiosoetingof: He said it's not hosted.18:45
bdoddetingof DMTF doesn't host a running mockup server.18:45
etingofmy goal is to run a demo against some online redfish server18:45
bdoddAnd I don't know of anyone else that does either18:45
etingofyeah, I could host one on my personal cloud instance if I had a reasonably convincing mock ups18:46
rpiosomraineri added, "I usually use one of the mockups in the DSP2043 bundle: https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/DSP2043_1.2.0.zip. But you can modify them, add new resources, etc"18:47
bdoddI think the mockups in the DSP2043_1.2.0.zip that rpioso referenced are pretty reasonable18:48
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bdoddI use them often for test and debug18:48
etingofabsolutely! could I host them publicly?18:50
moshelehi can ironic cores review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582767/ spec ?18:54
patchbotpatch 582767 - ironic-specs - Add Support for Smart NIC - 17 patch sets18:54
bdoddetingof Pretty sure it is. I'm just pinging someone to double check...18:56
bdoddetingof I haven't gotten a response from Raineri yet, but this text is from the README that comes with the mockups:19:03
bdodd"DSP2043 - Redfish Mockup - This is set of mockups that can be used as sample of output from GETs from A Redfish service. Informative in nature, it was used to develop the schema. A person can set up an NGINX or similar server and configure it to output JSON format and then use this directory for demonstration purposes."19:03
bdoddSo they are intended to be used just as you are wanting to use them.19:04
bdoddetingof And just got a reply from Raineri confirming it is OK to host them publicly :-)19:05
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etingofbdodd, awesome! will set it up shortly19:25
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etingofbdodd, rpioso thank you, guys!19:25
bdoddetingof yw!19:25
rpiosoetingof: You’re most welcome. And thanks to mraineri :)19:27
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TheJuliaJayF: Do you happen to remember why the coreos ipa went to using a chroot? was it bios memory access stuffs?20:24
TheJuliaJayF: as opposed to a container20:25
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openstackgerritHarald Jensås proposed openstack/networking-baremetal master: Docs: Devstack quickstart guides - change drivers  https://review.openstack.org/63134522:10
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