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| openstackgerrit | zhouxinyong proposed openstack/bifrost master: Remove those copy words occured twice times in README.md https://review.openstack.org/628790 | 00:57 |
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| dnuka | good morning ironic | 03:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhouxinyong proposed openstack/bifrost master: Dumplicate words was deleted in README.md https://review.openstack.org/628866 | 06:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Dhanuka Warusadura proposed openstack/sushy master: [WIP] Introduce ``convert_to_date`` https://review.openstack.org/625889 | 06:43 |
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| rpittau | good morning ironic o/ | 07:41 |
| dnuka | hi rpittau :) | 07:41 |
| rpittau | hey dnuka :) | 07:41 |
| arne_wiebalck | Good morning and happy new year, Ironic! | 07:43 |
| rpittau | arne_wiebalck, happy new year! | 07:43 |
| dnuka | happy new year arne_wiebalck :) | 07:44 |
| arne_wiebalck | rpittau: dnuka: o/ thx! | 07:44 |
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| iurygregory | good morning o/ | 07:48 |
| dnuka | hi iurygregory :) | 07:48 |
| rpittau | hey iurygregory :) | 07:48 |
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| iurygregory | o/ | 07:52 |
| iurygregory | rpittau, do you know magic? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/624671/ =D | 07:53 |
| patchbot | patch 624671 - networking-baremetal - [DNM] Tests - 14 patch sets | 07:53 |
| rpittau | so it's just a matter of time? :/ | 07:55 |
| iurygregory | its matter of timeout =P | 07:55 |
| iurygregory | if the host is bad can take more than 20min for tempest run each tests so it will timeout | 07:56 |
| rpittau | lol we're talking more than 2 hours in total | 07:56 |
| rpittau | if host == bad change host ? :D | 07:56 |
| iurygregory | if we could know the type of hosts that are given the errors we could add some check i think | 07:57 |
| iurygregory | maybe the zuul-info will provide something usefull i think | 07:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Riccardo Pittau proposed openstack/networking-baremetal master: [ DNM/TEST ] testing zuulv3 jobs https://review.openstack.org/625211 | 08:15 |
| iurygregory | rpittau, do you think we should test aganist bionic to see if it fails? | 08:17 |
| rpittau | iurygregory, yes we should do that | 08:20 |
| iurygregory | i will run on devstack before try on CI to see | 08:22 |
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| * iurygregory praying for the tempest tests to run without problems in bionic | 09:02 | |
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| iurygregory | rpittau, it worked in devstack \o/ (Bionic) | 09:27 |
| iurygregory | now time to try on CI \o/ | 09:28 |
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| rpittau | iurygregory, great! | 09:29 |
| rpittau | iurygregory, we could give it a shot on the main patch ? | 09:30 |
| iurygregory | rpittau, im doing right now \o/ | 09:30 |
| rpittau | at least for the timeout values | 09:30 |
| rpittau | iurygregory, cool :) | 09:30 |
| iurygregory | removing the xenial and some unused variables =D | 09:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: introspection data backend: plugin layer https://review.openstack.org/514552 | 09:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/networking-baremetal master: Change networking-baremetal to zuulv3/python3 https://review.openstack.org/614026 | 09:35 |
| rpittau | iurygregory, my test patch passed the test too, just with the timeout change \o/ | 09:36 |
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| rpittau | I just hope we won't have to increase that even more :P | 09:36 |
| iurygregory | damm i increased the timeout in the main =( | 09:37 |
| iurygregory | seems CI is happy today LOL | 09:37 |
| iurygregory | the hangover of the xmas and new year party is over LOL | 09:37 |
| rpittau | :D | 09:37 |
| rpittau | don't say it too loud, it can smell fear..... | 09:38 |
| iurygregory | truth! | 09:38 |
| rpittau | iurygregory, on a more serious note, maybe we should specify the bm log dir ? | 09:39 |
| * iurygregory hide =X | 09:41 | |
| iurygregory | totally forgot lol | 09:41 |
| iurygregory | lets wait for CI, i will push with the change after lunch =) | 09:41 |
| rpittau | sounds good :) | 09:42 |
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| dtantsur | good monday morning ironic | 10:08 |
| iurygregory | good morning dtantsur o/ | 10:08 |
| rpittau | hi dtantsur :) | 10:09 |
| iurygregory | rpittau, bionic seems more faster than xenial to setup devstack | 10:13 |
| dtantsur | that's good | 10:15 |
| iurygregory | truth =) | 10:15 |
| rpittau | iurygregory, I've noticed, maybe we can adjust the timeout values also based on that | 10:15 |
| iurygregory | yeah =D | 10:15 |
| * dtantsur has issued the 7th recheck for his approved patch >_< | 10:15 | |
| iurygregory | CI hangover is over =P | 10:16 |
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| dnuka | hi dtantsur | 10:17 |
| dtantsur | \o | 10:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Allow missing ``local_gb`` property https://review.openstack.org/628096 | 10:28 |
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| iurygregory_mtg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614026/ green =D | 10:51 |
| patchbot | patch 614026 - networking-baremetal - Change networking-baremetal to zuulv3/python3 - 17 patch sets | 10:51 |
| dtantsur | nice! | 10:54 |
| * dtantsur bookmarks | 10:54 | |
| iurygregory_mtg | i will just push another change after mtg and lunch to add the var for vms_dir and decrease the timeout | 10:55 |
| dtantsur | "decrease the timeout" sounds dangerous, I hope you know what you're doing :) | 10:58 |
| rpittau | awesome! | 10:59 |
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| dtantsur | damn, we need to do something with the CI.. I guess I have to put status RED in the whiteboard | 11:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Allocation API: database and RPC https://review.openstack.org/624119 | 11:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Allocation API: allow skipping retries in TaskManager https://review.openstack.org/628428 | 11:52 |
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| iurygregory | dtantsur, the same failures that you mentioned in the whiteboard or new ones? | 12:07 |
| dtantsur | iurygregory: I think all the same. I stopped checking every case.. | 12:07 |
| iurygregory | dtantsur, gotcha, i look for the failures in the patches. finishing my lunch now =D | 12:08 |
| rpioso | Good morning, ironic | 12:09 |
| dtantsur | morning rpioso! are you on the opposite coast today? early for you :) | 12:10 |
| iurygregory | good morning rpioso | 12:10 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Morning! I'm at my usual location on the East Coast :) | 12:13 |
| rpioso | iurygregory: Hey :) | 12:14 |
| * rpioso is looking for etingof | 12:15 | |
| rpioso | dtantsur: There's an RFE I'd appreciate your input on -- https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2004592 | 12:16 |
| etingof | rpioso, o/ | 12:28 |
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| dtantsur | rpioso: ah, I see :) I thought you're on the West :) | 12:56 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: yeah, I have this RFE opened in a tab.. apparently it won't solve itself if I slack off long enough :) | 12:57 |
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| dtantsur | rpioso: all looks good, except that you don't specify why you need iDrac specific implementations of RedfishPower and RedfishManagement. | 12:58 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: lol | 13:00 |
| rpioso | The primary goals are to offer a sort of one-stop ironic driver shop for all things iDRAC and provide a foundation for adding idrac h/w type support for extended generic Redfish interfaces. There may be things :) | 13:03 |
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| rpioso | If WS-Man and Redfish power and management interface mixing works out to be reasonably easy to support, RedfishPower will need to be extended to interact with DRACManagement. Analogously, but less likely needed, RedfishManagement may need to be extended so DRACPower can interact with it. | 13:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/networking-baremetal master: Change networking-baremetal to zuulv3/python3 https://review.openstack.org/614026 | 13:12 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: what's that non-standard interaction that you require? | 13:19 |
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| * etingof is wondering if rpioso considers wrapping ws-man calls with redfish ones on BMC side...? that might end up with just standard redfish api consumable through ironic redfish hw type | 13:29 | |
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| iurygregory | hey dtantsur, zuulv3 job names should not have dsvm according to (https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#naming-with-zuul-v3) so maybe we should rename some jobs in the CI that are running on zuulv3 for some projects i think, do you agree? =) for eg: ironic-inspector https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613498/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514552/ | 13:49 |
| patchbot | patch 613498 - ironic-inspector - Zuul migration (MERGED) - 4 patch sets | 13:49 |
| patchbot | patch 514552 - ironic-inspector - introspection data backend: plugin layer - 28 patch sets | 13:49 |
| dtantsur | iurygregory: yeah, we should do it eventually | 13:50 |
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| iurygregory | do you mind if i push some patchs for this? =) | 13:50 |
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| dtantsur | not at all | 14:12 |
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| iurygregory | ack | 14:12 |
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| iurygregory | Finally \o/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614026/ ready for reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614026/ =D | 14:30 |
| patchbot | patch 614026 - networking-baremetal - Change networking-baremetal to zuulv3/python3 - 18 patch sets | 14:30 |
| patchbot | patch 614026 - networking-baremetal - Change networking-baremetal to zuulv3/python3 - 18 patch sets | 14:30 |
| iurygregory | lol i put 2x the patch (too excited lol) | 14:31 |
| rpittau | :D | 14:32 |
| rpittau | great success | 14:32 |
| iurygregory | we did rpittau o/ | 14:33 |
| rpittau | iurygregory o/ | 14:33 |
| iurygregory | sad we will only the able to land after the devstack change XD | 14:33 |
| rpittau | lol yeah | 14:33 |
| rpittau | and I'm still bummed by the multinode multitenant jobs :/ | 14:34 |
| iurygregory | i will give a hand tomorrow on the multinode o/ | 14:34 |
| iurygregory | today trying to check a bug that is in the TODO list XD | 14:34 |
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| * iurygregory thinks it should be needcoffee before XD | 14:38 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Allocation API: conductor API (without HA and take over) https://review.openstack.org/628223 | 14:41 |
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| TheJulia | Reminder everyone: We have our weekly meeting in 15 minutes. We have a long agenda, please go ahead and update any statuses on the etherpad before the meeting https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 14:46 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: I guess we can drop my item re midcycle, since it's being planned | 14:47 |
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| TheJulia | etingof: are you still working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/607949/ ? | 14:52 |
| patchbot | patch 607949 - ironic - WIP: Avoid long-pending ipmitool processes - 1 patch set | 14:52 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: works for me, sorry I didn't get that email out sooner... just I actually needed some time to disconnect | 14:52 |
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| iurygregory | updated the info for zuulv3 with networking-baremetal \o/ | 14:55 |
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| TheJulia | \o/ | 14:57 |
| etingof | TheJulia, no, I am not sure it's worth it. but I left a comment there to figure out what do you think ;) | 14:58 |
| iurygregory | its green with Bionic & Xenial \o/ | 14:58 |
| TheJulia | Okay, updated the agenda so if everyone can refresh | 15:00 |
| TheJulia | #startmeeting ironic | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 7 15:00:22 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 15:00 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 15:00 |
| dnuka | o/ | 15:00 |
| etingof | o/ | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:00 |
| rpittau | o/ | 15:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 15:00 |
| kaiokmo | o/ | 15:00 |
| kaifeng | o/ | 15:00 |
| tiendc | o/ | 15:00 |
| TheJulia | Happy new year! | 15:00 |
| rpioso | o/ | 15:00 |
| TheJulia | Our agenda as always can be found on the wiki! | 15:00 |
| TheJulia | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 15:01 |
| mjturek | o/ | 15:01 |
| TheJulia | We have a moderately full agenda today, with several discussion topics! | 15:01 |
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| TheJulia | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminder (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:01 | |
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| TheJulia | #info Currently polling days for a virtual mid-cycle call: https://doodle.com/poll/uqwywaxuxsiu7zde | 15:02 |
| TheJulia | Please respond to that if you have not already, so we can identify days, then attempt to identify times. | 15:02 |
| TheJulia | For a virtual PTG, I've also setup an etherpad for brainstorming and planning | 15:02 |
| TheJulia | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-stein-midcycle | 15:02 |
| TheJulia | On the topics of reminders, I will be traveling next week and on a flight during the same time of the meeting. | 15:03 |
| TheJulia | #info dtantsur volunteered to run the meeting next week | 15:03 |
| * dtantsur hasss poooowerrzzz | 15:03 | |
| TheJulia | Any questions? Does anyone have anything to announce or remind us of this morning? | 15:04 |
| * TheJulia just looks at dtantsur oddly | 15:04 | |
| * TheJulia needs more coffee to engage the silliness feature | 15:04 | |
| * dtantsur whistles innocently | 15:05 | |
| TheJulia | Heh, I guess nobody has anything to announce or remind us of this week, so we should carry on | 15:05 |
| TheJulia | #topic Action Items from prior meeting | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items from prior meeting (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:05 | |
| TheJulia | #info One action item was outstanding, and it was to begin planning for a virtual mid-cycle. | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | Moving on | 15:06 |
| rajinir | o/ | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | #topic Review subteam status reports | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review subteam status reports (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:06 | |
| TheJulia | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | Starting aroudn line 224 | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | s/dn/nd/ | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | rloo: still hoping to at least put in a "you haven't upgraded the schema check" into the status check command? | 15:08 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: is HTTP boot really blocked by IPv6? I mean, cannot we do it with IPv4? | 15:08 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i had forgotten I said I'd do it until I read it today, so yes, still planning, when do we want to get it done by? | 15:08 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: return format is identical, underlying dhcp code is identical, so I consider it technically blocked | 15:08 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: for user's perspective the features are so different thought | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | * though | 15:09 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: yeah... :( | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | so I nearly anticipate "wait, what, I only need IPv4" | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | cannot we arrange it the opposite way? block IPv6 on HTTP boot? | 15:09 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: we described ourselves as v6 ready in the past and it never really worked to the spec, so I felt that was of more importance to fix sooner rather than later | 15:10 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: sure, but can we fix it soon? I got an impression that it's one big can of worms. | 15:11 |
| TheJulia | I think boot from url is largely just a boot interface tbh | 15:11 |
| dtantsur | or to phrase it more positively: if there is something I can review to speed it up, please point me at the patches :) | 15:11 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: yeah, it seems there is no fully native v6 job | 15:11 |
| * dtantsur has a feeling that the edge topic gives the UEFI boot a higher priority from operator's perspective | 15:12 | |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: Okay, lets discuss this further after the meeting because I think we can go ahead and do interface/user perception work, and just do any refactoring silently in the background | 15:12 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 15:12 |
| TheJulia | I think the iso work plays into that as well | 15:13 |
| TheJulia | rloo: If we can have it up for review before the end of the month, that would be awesome | 15:13 |
| rloo | TheJulia: ok, will try... | 15:13 |
| TheJulia | rloo: thanks | 15:14 |
| TheJulia | jroll: any update on nova conductor_group awareness? | 15:14 |
| * etingof got a couple of patches relevant to uefi/iso... | 15:14 | |
| rloo | TheJulia: I think jroll is out til early Feb. (new papa) | 15:14 |
| TheJulia | rloo: ahhh! | 15:15 |
| mjturek | =-o | 15:15 |
| TheJulia | rloo: I had no idea! | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | wow | 15:15 |
| * TheJulia sends jroll congradulations | 15:15 | |
| rloo | I'll let him give you the great news :) | 15:15 |
| TheJulia | etingof: can you put a list on the etherpad? | 15:15 |
| TheJulia | Anyway, moving on! Only halfway down the list | 15:15 |
| etingof | TheJulia, L174 | 15:16 |
| TheJulia | I need to follow-up on dhcp-less/l3 vmedia booting. I've not heard back from the folks at Nokia, so I'm going to send an email and try to see what is going on there. | 15:16 |
| TheJulia | I believe initial deploy templates code was posted over the holidays | 15:17 |
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| TheJulia | Yup | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | #link https://review.openstack.org/627663 | 15:17 |
| patchbot | patch 627663 - ironic - WIP: Deploy templates: data model, DB API & objects - 3 patch sets | 15:17 |
| dtantsur | deploy templates \o/ | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | Graphical consoles, if anyone wants to volunteer to keep the patch rebased, what is up for review is the substrate for the feature. Next logical step I believe is actual API support update | 15:18 |
| dtantsur | honestly, it seems like we should build a list of planned features that need help | 15:19 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: yeah | 15:19 |
| rpittau | TheJulia, I can have a look at the patch rebase for the graphical console | 15:19 |
| dtantsur | nice! | 15:19 |
| TheJulia | rpittau: awesome, thanks | 15:19 |
| TheJulia | #action TheJulia to make a list of things that need help | 15:19 |
| rpittau | TheJulia, dtantsur, prepare for help calls :P | 15:19 |
| dtantsur | absolutely | 15:19 |
| iurygregory | me can help just need to see the list =) | 15:19 |
| iurygregory | forgot the / -.-' | 15:20 |
| dtantsur | heh | 15:20 |
| TheJulia | I think the status on the etherpad is essentially up to date for everything else. | 15:20 |
| TheJulia | Does anyone else have any questions, or are we good to proceed for priorities for the week? | 15:21 |
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| TheJulia | Okay, moving on to priorities for the week | 15:22 |
| TheJulia | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 15:22 |
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| TheJulia | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 15:22 |
| TheJulia | Starting at line 131 | 15:22 |
| TheJulia | Starting off, I'm going to remove the merged items. | 15:23 |
| TheJulia | Does anyone have anything they would like to add to the list this week? | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: thanks for the stable approval :) | 15:26 |
| dtantsur | np :) | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | It will be easy to remove from the list.. hopefully :) | 15:27 |
| TheJulia | Are we missing any items from this list? | 15:27 |
| * etingof has a couple of sushy-tools patches.... | 15:27 | |
| dtantsur | you okay with allocation API there? | 15:27 |
| dtantsur | it's not entirely finished, but a few patches are ready (modulo CI being very unstable) | 15:27 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I am | 15:28 |
| dtantsur | cool | 15:28 |
| TheJulia | etingof: Add a couple to the list please :) | 15:28 |
| etingof | ack | 15:28 |
| dtantsur | currently the list looks a bit larger than we can manage with who we have this week | 15:29 |
| dtantsur | however, many items look easy | 15:29 |
| TheJulia | yeah, some proceedural too | 15:30 |
| TheJulia | I guess we're good to move on to Discussion topics? | 15:30 |
| TheJulia | I guess everyone is happy, and we can proceed. | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | #topic Discussion | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:32 | |
| TheJulia | First topic! PTG! | 15:32 |
| iurygregory | \o/ | 15:32 |
| dtantsur | ah, that PTG.. | 15:33 |
| TheJulia | Can I get a show of hands for those that believe they will be attending the PTG in Denver after the newly named Open Infrastructure conference? | 15:33 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 15:33 |
| rpittau | o/ | 15:33 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 15:33 |
| iurygregory | i hope i will o/ | 15:33 |
| * dtantsur waves his hand without much certainty | 15:33 | |
| dnuka | o/ :) | 15:34 |
| * iurygregory needs manager approval to go XD | 15:34 | |
| * TheJulia awaits a \o | 15:34 | |
| dtantsur | iurygregory: that's the easiest part, no? </kidding> | 15:34 |
| TheJulia | iurygregory: Essentially everyone does in this age. | 15:34 |
| rpittau | iurygregory, me too :) | 15:34 |
| rloo | hopefully ... | 15:35 |
| rpioso | \o, hopefully :) | 15:35 |
| * kaifeng just waves his head.. | 15:35 | |
| mjturek | hoping to! \o | 15:35 |
| TheJulia | kaifeng: :( | 15:35 |
| dtantsur | for us Europeans the budget is going to be through the roof :) | 15:35 |
| iurygregory | no idea since all my summits ptgs was with my money or by TSP XD | 15:35 |
| rpittau | let's be positive :P | 15:35 |
| TheJulia | rpittau: you have the right attitude | 15:35 |
| rloo | apart from travel, is this PTG going to be more $$ than past ones? | 15:35 |
| iurygregory | thats why i said i hope hehe | 15:35 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I suspect so. the location is downtown this time. | 15:36 |
| rpittau | I believe also for travel, at least one stop from europe | 15:36 |
| dtantsur | and the PTG itself is much more expensive ($400?) | 15:36 |
| TheJulia | I've not checked the hotel rates, I had heard they were comperable | 15:36 |
| dtantsur | $150+ last time I checked | 15:36 |
| TheJulia | eek | 15:36 |
| rpioso | Denver has an awesome rail public transport system. | 15:36 |
| TheJulia | This is true | 15:36 |
| rloo | (and who is going to be there for the 'whole' thing... that'll make it more $$ too, but less than going to two events?) | 15:37 |
| TheJulia | Okay, I have a rough idea to give the foundation for planning, thanks everyone | 15:37 |
| dtantsur | I mean, I'm likely to go because that's me :) but this is pending budget and renewed USA visa | 15:37 |
| iurygregory | cool =D | 15:37 |
| dtantsur | rloo: this is ever harder to predict (except for Julia, I guess :) | 15:37 |
| TheJulia | rloo: I have to be :( | 15:37 |
| TheJulia | Anyway, carrying on! | 15:38 |
| rloo | lucky TheJulia! | 15:38 |
| dtantsur | the joined ticket is >$1000, then hotel for what 6 nights.... | 15:38 |
| dtantsur | yeah, let's move on from this sad topic :) | 15:38 |
| TheJulia | Dtantsur's topic was the ironic-tempest-plugin CI job | 15:38 |
| TheJulia | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/001346.html | 15:38 |
| * TheJulia hands the virtual microphone to dtantsur | 15:38 | |
| dtantsur | Please read that rumbling about our gate being too big :) | 15:39 |
| dtantsur | tl;dr let's do some cuts to stable coverage of the tempest plugin job | 15:39 |
| TheJulia | I think option 1 is the most reasonable path forward | 15:39 |
| TheJulia | personally | 15:39 |
| rloo | wrt option 1, is it possible (after doing 1) for someone to explicit trigger a CI job for ocata? eg, after backporting a change to ocata, want to see what happens...? | 15:40 |
| dtantsur | they're not mutually exclusive thought | 15:40 |
| TheJulia | Plugins are now version tagged as well, so... | 15:40 |
| dtantsur | rloo: we can move it to experimental queue | 15:40 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i'm good with that. guessing it won't get used or if it does it'll break but at least it'll be avail if anyone needs it | 15:41 |
| dtantsur | ack | 15:41 |
| dtantsur | on a related topic, our gate is barely working :( | 15:41 |
| rloo | wrt 2, i'm good with that | 15:42 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: I saw the note when I sat down before the meeting :( | 15:42 |
| * rpittau still have nightmares cause of grenade multinode multitenant | 15:42 | |
| dtantsur | everyone has, rpittau, everyone here has.. | 15:42 |
| dtantsur | :D | 15:42 |
| rloo | wrt 3. so i guess when we backport, we ought to be careful and check the non-voting jobs? | 15:43 |
| TheJulia | rpittau: If so inclined, there are beverages that ease the grenade nightmares | 15:43 |
| rpittau | lol | 15:43 |
| rloo | not called grenade for nothing... | 15:43 |
| dtantsur | rloo: there are no backports there. it's rather, when changign any of theses tests, watch out for the stable jobs | 15:44 |
| TheJulia | I was just about to point that out | 15:44 |
| dtantsur | the thing is, we barely ever change these tests | 15:44 |
| TheJulia | I feel more complex networking lends itself to more neutron race condition failures | 15:45 |
| rloo | i'm just concerned that if they are non-voting, people won't notice/look. (I probably will forget) | 15:45 |
| TheJulia | And I feel like that might be okay to make non-voting in older branches as we find them no longer useful | 15:45 |
| rloo | but i'm fine trying it out. we can always change it again. | 15:45 |
| rloo | if i understand, this is the only patch that needs to be approved? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/627955/ | 15:46 |
| patchbot | patch 627955 - ironic-tempest-plugin - [gate] update the list of the voting jobs - 3 patch sets | 15:46 |
| dtantsur | yeah | 15:46 |
| rloo | dtantsur: so i will approve it now (or in 1 minute) unless someone disagrees. | 15:47 |
| rloo | timer has been started... | 15:47 |
| * dtantsur counts to 60 | 15:47 | |
| TheJulia | Heh, okay | 15:48 |
| TheJulia | Are we good to proceed? | 15:48 |
| rloo | ++ | 15:48 |
| TheJulia | #topic RFE Review | 15:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFE Review (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 15:48 | |
| TheJulia | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2004592 | 15:48 |
| dtantsur | I've left a comment there | 15:49 |
| TheJulia | rpioso asked about the patch above, which is a RFE to begin the process of migrating the idrac hw type over to redfish based interfaces | 15:49 |
| rpioso | dtansur: Thank you :) DracPower interacts with DracManagement in a "unique" way to set the boot device. To configure DracManagement with RedfishPower on a node, that would have to be accommodated. The RFE briefly mentions it in the "Adapt DracRedfishPower to Work with Drac[WSMan]Management" subsection. | 15:49 |
| rpioso | The code's at https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/c10ee94b92174ce78073afc2eacb300fa649736f/ironic/drivers/modules/drac/power.py#L75-L76. | 15:50 |
| * dtantsur makes sad panda face at "iDrac does not support standard BIOS" | 15:50 | |
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| dtantsur | rpioso: can we rather fix the "uniqueness"? | 15:50 |
| * rpioso awkwardly giggles | 15:50 | |
| TheJulia | I concur with your comment, I'm good with the overall theme, I think those sorts of details are kind of the outstanding questions in my mind | 15:50 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: No, not as far as I'm aware. | 15:50 |
| dtantsur | or rather: why cannot this line be $ task.driver.management.set_boot_device? | 15:51 |
| rpioso | It revolves around the need to create an iDRAC configuration job targeted at the BIOS subsystem to configure the boot device. | 15:51 |
| rloo | i haven't read through the spec, but am trying to remember what we decided/if anything, wrt redfish and support for non-generic (or whatever it is called) redfish support. eg vendor-specific redfish stuff. | 15:51 |
| etingof | OEM, perhaps | 15:52 |
| TheJulia | rloo: Basically what has been proposed, vendor superset interfaces on top of the redfish interfaces or OEM extensions as necessary to conform to using the redfish rest api interface | 15:52 |
| dtantsur | rloo: well, I personally decided that life is pain and everything is vendor-specific anyway | 15:52 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: driver.management.set_boot_device simply caches the desired setting on the node object. It's applied during the next power event. | 15:52 |
| rloo | if life is vendor-specific anyway, then let's approve whatever APIs the vendors want! | 15:52 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I feel like watching "The Princess Bride" is now on the agenda | 15:52 |
| rloo | j/k | 15:52 |
| dtantsur | heh | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: I guess I'm fine with the proposal if this explanation is added to it | 15:53 |
| rpioso | I could use assistance with deprecation of default interfaces and removing support for interfaces. | 15:53 |
| rpioso | Is that a thing? | 15:53 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: so tl;dr, the redfish actions and support still has the same basic mechanical setting constraints? | 15:53 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: Is what a thing? | 15:54 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: re deprecation: we did it for iRMC once. It involved a release note and warnings. | 15:54 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: That does not compute to my Monday, under caffeinated mind. | 15:54 |
| dtantsur | if you deprecate the default interface, two cycles are preferred to one | 15:54 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: Deprecation | 15:54 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: oh... I guess irccloud displayed messages out of order or something | 15:55 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Thanks for the iRMC pointer. What about migration? | 15:55 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: we haven't done any. but you can consider creating an online data migration, similar to one I did for the driver composition. | 15:55 |
| * rpioso takes a note to add the detail dtantsur requested. | 15:55 | |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Is it required or extra credit? | 15:56 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: extra credit from my point of view | 15:56 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: It would be a good idea™ | 15:56 |
| * rloo wonders why there isn't an actual spec PR for this. Seems like there are quite a few details involved here. | 15:56 | |
| TheJulia | rloo: its all vendor interface stuff in the grand scheme of the universe | 15:57 |
| rpioso | rloo: Perhaps I over achieved in the story ;0 | 15:57 |
| etingof | pardon my ignorance, but it is not possible to express idrac power/boot/etc operations within the standard redfish schema/actions, right? | 15:57 |
| etingof | I mean on the BMC side | 15:57 |
| rloo | it just makes it harder to connect the/any comments with the description. and in my mind -- i'm wondering if all the various sections of a spec are covered. | 15:58 |
| dtantsur | etingof: well, it is possible from the protocol perspective. but the boot device operation can be done once per reboot. | 15:58 |
| rloo | adding new api is one thing, renaming etc is another. | 15:58 |
| dtantsur | which reminds us that it's not enough to agree on the common transport protocol, semantics also matter | 15:58 |
| dtantsur | and semantics is something redfish completely drops on the floor. | 15:58 |
| dtantsur | am I whining again? | 15:58 |
| rpioso | etingof: Yes, the iDRAC supports Redfish power and boot. | 15:58 |
| TheJulia | rloo: I completely agree | 15:58 |
| * dtantsur opens whiskey | 15:58 | |
| TheJulia | heh | 15:59 |
| TheJulia | We have one minute left | 15:59 |
| rloo | i'm not insisting on a spec PR here since the description is very detailed. just commenting about how I feel :) | 15:59 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning Ironic'erd | 15:59 |
| * rpioso notes to add detail about deprecation | 15:59 | |
| NobodyCam | ieek | 15:59 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning Ironic'ers | 16:00 |
| rpittau | hi NobodyCam , nice timing :P | 16:00 |
| TheJulia | rloo: Ack, I was feeling the same way early on when it was all defined in the first posted version in storyboard | 16:00 |
| TheJulia | Anyway! sounds like we're done with the rfe | 16:00 |
| rpioso | Is it acceptable to the cores? | 16:00 |
| rloo | i wonder if we even want to rename the existing idrac interface classes. that's internal. what matters is the 'idrac' names that users see. | 16:00 |
| NobodyCam | Good morning rpittau, rloo, TheJulia, and dtantsur | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | morning NobodyCam | 16:00 |
| rpioso | rloo: The idrac names are being deprecated. | 16:01 |
| rloo | oh, meeting is over? | 16:01 |
| dnuka | morning NobodyCam | 16:01 |
| rpioso | And replaced with idrac-wsman and idrac-redfish. | 16:01 |
| TheJulia | rloo: just about :) | 16:01 |
| TheJulia | Thanks everyone! We can have open discussion time after I end the meeting | 16:02 |
| TheJulia | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bare Metal Provisioning | Status: http://bit.ly/ironic-whiteboard | Docs: http://docs.openstack.org/ironic/ | Bugs: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/75 | Contributors are generally present between 6 AM and 12 AM UTC, If we do not answer, please feel free to pose questions to openstack-dev mailing list." | 16:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 7 16:02:20 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2019/ironic.2019-01-07-15.00.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2019/ironic.2019-01-07-15.00.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2019/ironic.2019-01-07-15.00.log.html | 16:02 |
| * TheJulia quietly pours coffee into dtantsur's whiskey | 16:02 | |
| dtantsur | lol | 16:02 |
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| iurygregory | hahah | 16:03 |
| rpittau | nice caffe' corretto :) | 16:04 |
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| * etingof is confused: if iDRAC supports power and boot via standard Redfish schema, do we still need the idrac/redfish driver? rpioso might dismiss this doubt right away | 16:05 | |
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| rpioso | etingof: I'm not clear on your confusion. | 16:06 |
| rpioso | Yes, the iDRAC supports power and boot via standard Redfish schema. | 16:07 |
| rpioso | However, the redfish h/w type doesn't presently support everything the idrac h/w type does, including inspect and raid. | 16:07 |
| rpioso | Also, iDRAC's Redfish BIOS support has iDRAC-specific aspects. | 16:08 |
| etingof | rpioso, so if redfish h/w type had standard inspect & raid features in place, we could just use redfish h/w type with Dells? | 16:09 |
| * etingof things that everything bios is vendor-specific by design :( | 16:09 | |
| rpioso | etingof: And testing demonstrated that it works as is against the iDRAC :) | 16:09 |
| rpioso | Bear in mind that the standard and vendor service implementations are evolving. | 16:10 |
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| rpioso | I agree that BIOS settings are vendor-specific, but the BIOS interface's public interface is broadly supportable. | 16:11 |
| rpioso | Finally, vendors like the ability to add value :) | 16:11 |
| rpioso | Probs more like s/like/demand/ | 16:11 |
| rpioso | ;-) | 16:12 |
| etingof | it's a pity that bios settings can't be done in some common way | 16:12 |
| rloo | morning NobodyCam :) | 16:12 |
| * rpioso clearly needs more coffee | 16:13 | |
| NobodyCam | :) morning rloo | 16:13 |
| rpioso | etingof: Sure, however, the BIOS interface has allowances for vendor-specific needs. | 16:14 |
| rpioso | NobodyCam: Happy New Year! | 16:14 |
| NobodyCam | Morning rpioso :) | 16:15 |
| TheJulia | etingof: I think largely it is mechanism issues as well, like needing to perform x action only at y time kind of stuff that is unique to a vendor because of how they reached x point. Although for bios we also kind of anticipated _some_ of that. | 16:16 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: +1 | 16:16 |
| * rpioso recalls petitioning for that :) | 16:16 | |
| TheJulia | Indeed | 16:17 |
| TheJulia | Anyway, breakfast() | 16:17 |
| etingof | there may be such actions indeed | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Remove dsvm from zuulv3 jobs https://review.openstack.org/629008 | 16:19 |
| TheJulia | i do like the smartnic idea to help with some of those issues... boot to bios/uefi shell | 16:19 |
| etingof | ...but what I do not understand is - would not it be better to have the common core features (power, boot) supported within the redfish h/w type directly...? | 16:19 |
| TheJulia | power_on is a call, but dell power_on needs a "check and assert boot mode right before while power is off" logic. I don't think that makes sense to add to prue redfish | 16:21 |
| rpioso | etingof: I mistyped a bit. The RedfishBIOS has those allowances -- https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/c10ee94b92174ce78073afc2eacb300fa649736f/ironic/drivers/modules/redfish/bios.py#L157 and https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/c10ee94b92174ce78073afc2eacb300fa649736f/ironic/drivers/modules/redfish/bios.py#L169 | 16:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Remove dsvm from zuulv3 job names https://review.openstack.org/629011 | 16:24 |
| etingof | TheJulia, I am wondering if BMC could behave in a pure Redfish way i.e. not requiring these additional assertions on the client side...? | 16:27 |
| etingof | what sort of undermines the idea of standardization across BMCs | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client master: Remove dsvm from zuulv3 job names https://review.openstack.org/629012 | 16:30 |
| rpioso | etingof: There very well could be a way. Time heals all :) | 16:31 |
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| iurygregory | bye everyone o/ cya tomorrow =D | 16:33 |
| TheJulia | goodnight | 16:33 |
| iurygregory | tks o/ | 16:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Riccardo Pittau proposed openstack/ironic master: Implement basic interfaces for GraphicalConsole Interface https://review.openstack.org/547356 | 16:34 |
| TheJulia | rpittau: <3 | 16:34 |
| rpittau | :D | 16:34 |
| rpittau | bye iurygregory ! | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed openstack/sushy master: Add System<->Manager linkage https://review.openstack.org/621663 | 16:58 |
| rpittau | bye all! have a nice rest of the day o/ | 16:59 |
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| TheJulia | o/ | 17:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic stable/rocky: Allow disabling instance image cache https://review.openstack.org/628229 | 17:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic stable/queens: Allow disabling instance image cache https://review.openstack.org/628527 | 17:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic stable/pike: Allow disabling instance image cache https://review.openstack.org/628528 | 17:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin master: [gate] update the list of the voting jobs https://review.openstack.org/627955 | 17:33 |
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| dtantsur|afk | o/ | 17:45 |
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| moshele | TheJulia: hi | 17:53 |
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| TheJulia | \o dtantsur|afk | 17:56 |
| TheJulia | moshele: Good morning | 17:56 |
| moshele | TheJulia: If you think we need to add field for smart nic I can update the spec | 17:57 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: One other thing about that RFE ... A task is needed to modify tripleo so that it places Redfish creds on the ironic node object when it imports the nodes defined in JSON and other formats. That would be for nodes configured to use the idrac h/w type. tripleo already places the iDRAC WS-Man creds on the node. | 17:58 |
| TheJulia | moshele: I think so, I'm not sure how you were intending to identify that a smartnic was a smartnic | 17:58 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: Should that task be part of the existing story or is another story needed for the tripleo work? | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: that would be part of TripleO's tracking I think (and if done in addition to existing permissions, it should be non-blocking to what your doing) | 17:59 |
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| moshele | TheJulia: with the local_link_information if it has hostname and port_id smart-nic and if switch_id and port_id the current flow, but it might be better to add the field and we will just validate that local_link_information has hostname and port_id | 18:00 |
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| rpioso | TheJulia: I believe the two tasks aren't dependent on one another. If the ironic one gets completed first, the operator can modify the node to set the Redfish creds on the node. Is my understanding correct? | 18:01 |
| rpioso | s/operator/operator or scripting/ | 18:02 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: I don't understand your non-blocking comment. | 18:02 |
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| TheJulia | moshele: I think that sounds like a plan then (what you just proposed, since the network interface can validate that things look correct) | 18:05 |
| TheJulia | rpioso|afk: I believ eso yes | 18:05 |
| moshele | TheJulia: ok I will update the spec tomorrow | 18:06 |
| TheJulia | rpioso|afk: same thing you were just wrote actually, one change is not necessarily dependent on the other change. | 18:06 |
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| rpioso|afk | TheJulia: ty :) | 18:10 |
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| TheJulia | okay, estimate for ptg attendance submitted | 18:54 |
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| rpioso | TheJulia: Has last week's email helped you find what you're looking for? | 22:13 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: I haven't even circled back to it yet :( | 22:14 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: No worries :) | 22:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: Add a high level vision reflection document https://review.openstack.org/629060 | 22:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: Add a high level vision reflection document https://review.openstack.org/629060 | 22:34 |
| * TheJulia punts creating a help wanted list to tomorrow | 22:45 | |
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