Tuesday, 2018-09-25

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openstackgerritcheng li proposed openstack/ironic-lib stable/pike: Check GPT table with sgdisk insread of partprobe  https://review.openstack.org/60494200:12
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Fix multi-device behavior  https://review.openstack.org/59263902:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost master: Add possibility to use proper public URLs for endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/59961203:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic stable/queens: Remove wrong install-guide-jobs in zuul setup  https://review.openstack.org/60454203:43
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openstackgerritDebayan Ray proposed openstack/sushy master: Omit tests from code coverage run  https://review.openstack.org/60498507:11
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-functional-python2 to zuulv3  https://review.openstack.org/60009307:29
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-functional-python3 to zuulv3  https://review.openstack.org/60009407:29
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etingofgood morning, Ironicers o/08:48
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openstackgerritIlya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic master: Add configurable Redfish client authentication  https://review.openstack.org/60381808:54
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dtantsurmorning ironic08:55
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stendulkerGood morning dtantsur, etingof09:07
etingofstendulker, dtantsur o/09:09
openstackgerritOlivier Bourdon proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add voting and gating test with Keystone enabled  https://review.openstack.org/59954409:10
dtantsursup etingof09:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Fix async keyword for Python 3.7  https://review.openstack.org/59746809:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-specs master: Fix ironic-specs repo doc builds  https://review.openstack.org/60479709:46
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-functional-python2 to zuulv3  https://review.openstack.org/60009309:56
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-functional-python3 to zuulv3  https://review.openstack.org/60009409:56
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: [WIP] Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-ipa-wholedisk-agent_ipmitool-tinyipa-multinode  https://review.openstack.org/58736509:56
dtantsurTheJulia, mgoddard, jroll, wdyt https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003869 ?10:09
mgoddarddtantsur: as someone who has previously mistaken node-set-provision-state deleted and node-delete, +210:11
mgoddardeasily done, not so easily undone :)10:12
dtantsurtrue :)10:12
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dtantsurmgoddard: it's a constant pain with tripleo: heat decided to shot down a controller because it can :)10:13
dtantsur* shut10:13
dtantsurone of the reasons tripleo folks resist to automated cleaning..10:14
dtantsurmgoddard: please record your +2 on the story then :)10:15
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mgoddardheat and ironic don't always play particularly well together10:17
mgoddardwe tend to leave heat to managing infrastructure, then do software configuration via ansible10:18
dtantsurno, they do not :)10:18
dtantsurwell, that's where tripleo is heading as well10:18
dtantsuractually, ansible approach is the default starting with rocky10:19
dtantsurand now I'm working on moving ironic from under heat as well :)10:19
mgoddardand we don't use heat at all for managing control plane infra - too risky10:19
dtantsur(hence metalsmith)10:19
mgoddardgood plan10:19
rpittauw10:21
mgoddardwill you have to change your name from tripleo?10:21
dtantsurheh10:25
sambetts|afkI guess it'll become "OoONT" OpenStack on OpenStack (Not the Trademark) ;)10:25
sambetts|afkor OoM (Openstack on Metalsmith)10:26
dtantsurwell, some folks raised this. for me, using mistral, neutron and ironic is enough, but who knows :)10:26
dtantsurOoM, oh I love it! A subtle reference to how much memory the beast eats :D10:26
sambetts|afkor how much resistance it took to get to this point ;)10:27
* sambetts|afk leaves in shame10:27
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jrolllol10:37
jrollmorning10:37
dtantsurmorning jroll10:38
jrolldtantsur: questions on that... should we also prevent from DELETE /nodes/foo? (do we already do that?) and will there be an API action like maintenance, or only the normal PATCH /nodes/foo10:39
dtantsurjroll: 1. active nodes can only be deleted in maintenance mode, so I guess it's redundant. the goal is to protect the deployed instance, which is not affected by node deletion. 2. I'd prefer the normal PATCH. I hate what we did with maintenance..10:40
jrollTheJulia: I will coffee and then try to find some words for a forum topic10:40
jrolldtantsur: ok, I thought it was redundant but wasn't sure after seeing mgoddard's comment10:41
jrollI think it's too early for me to tell if I like your answer to 2 or not :)10:42
jrolltrying to recall why we did that, I think part of it was to avoid locking/RPC, and part to make it obvious that the two fields are related10:43
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client master: Support loading introspection rules from YAML files  https://review.openstack.org/60503510:45
dtantsurjroll: yeah, but with my API-SIG hat on, it's not the best API design10:46
dtantsurwithout this hat I don't care too much :)10:46
jrolldtantsur: POST /nodes/foo/action {"action": "set-protected-mode"}10:47
* jroll runs10:47
dtantsurlet's just switch to JSON RPC, why bother with this REST stuff...10:47
dtantsur:)10:47
dtantsuror what is in fashion today, gRPC?10:47
jrollheh10:48
sambetts|afknahhh totally graphQL ;)10:48
* jroll flinches10:49
sambetts|afkhaha[3~10:50
dtantsurhehe10:50
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TheJuliabraaaaiiinnsss12:13
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TheJuliadtantsur|bbl: I like it12:16
TheJuliajroll: thanks12:17
* TheJulia twitches12:18
jroll:)12:18
TheJuliathe inmates (cats) are rebelling since food has been verboten since last night because one of the cats is going in for surgery in a few hours12:19
jrollthat sounds loud12:20
jrollsorry to hear it needs surgery, hope it goes well12:21
TheJuliathanks12:21
TheJuliawhich is why, I'm a ball of stress today12:21
jrollyou should go cuddle it until you need to go to the vet12:21
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TheJuliaoh wow, she is evil, she just unplugged google home12:24
TheJuliadtantsur|bbl: I put rfe-approved in the spec, we've had similar asks from operators, even though largely the ability to delete was because nodes would slip into maintenance state12:25
TheJulias/spec/rfe/12:25
TheJuliabraaaaaiiinnsss12:25
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TheJuliaReminder: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-stein-forum-ironic-brainstorming - Topics need to be submitted by EOD tomorrow13:45
TheJuliaAdd ideas!13:45
TheJuliaAlso, Stein cycle community priorities: Please review if you have not already: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603161/13:46
patchbotpatch 603161 - ironic-specs - Stein priorites - 4 patch sets13:46
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dtantsurthanks TheJulia14:05
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TheJuliano problem14:18
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hkominosHi all. I have a quick question. For some reason (unknown to me yet) Ironic does not expand the root partition. ironic node show shows the proper disk size (it also shows rootGB=40) but I dont get why. Any ideas ? https://paste.centos.org/view/a51e65bb14:41
dtantsurhkominos: ironic does not expand root partitions, cloud-init does14:42
dtantsurso maybe that plugin (I don't remember its name) is not enabled14:42
hkominosdtantsur: Is it enabled in ironic.conf ?14:44
TheJuliahkominos: it would be in whatever image you deploy14:44
dtantsurhkominos: it's completely unrelated to ironic, it's in the image14:44
hkominosdtantsur, TheJulia: thx14:46
dtantsurTheJulia: have you proposed / do you plan on proposing something Edge from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-stein-forum-ironic-brainstorming ?14:46
TheJuliadtantsur: I have not, I was hoping we could come to a more concise definition of what we wanted out of the session given the ptg discussions and ideas moving forward.14:48
* TheJulia feels forum topic selection needs at least another week....14:48
TheJuliabut, my brain is also behind a week due to being in boston last week14:48
dtantsurmy brain is suffering from the abrupt weather change14:50
dtantsurgoing from +30 to +13 in one weekend14:50
dtantsurTheJulia: maybe we should just ask for ideas about federation on the ops feedback thing?14:52
* dtantsur tries to think if he has enough ideas for a separate session14:53
TheJuliaI already submitted that one14:53
TheJuliaI didn't put federation, but I see that one as freeform requirements/capabilities of ironic resync with operators14:53
dtantsuryeah14:54
TheJuliaI feel like we could use a working session time as a sanity check/validation of plans, we just need to go ahead and get those written out asap14:54
dtantsurI just realized that I don't know if we have plans, other than a few random ideas floating around..14:55
TheJuliaoh, hmm14:56
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jrollplans for federation?14:57
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dtantsuryeah, this is probably the most discussable thing15:06
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jrollright, I read it as general plans, which I think we have :)15:06
jrollagree no solid plans for federation15:06
* jroll stands by his "do it outside of ironic" view15:07
dtantsurjroll: even "do it outside of ironic" is quite discussable15:08
jrolldtantsur: totally15:08
jrolldtantsur: I'm just trying to clarify if you think ironic has no plans at all, or no plans for federation15:08
dtantsurjroll: I think largely we have quite little specifics to discuss around Edge, and the federation plans is probably the most specific thing15:09
dtantsurin other news: I can barely express myself today :(15:09
jrolldtantsur: ok, so ironic has no plans for edge :)15:10
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dtantsurmaybe? :)15:19
dtantsuror maybe we're already edge-ready (modulo location awareness in nova-compute)?15:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Remove inspecting state support from inspect_hardware  https://review.openstack.org/59997815:20
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TheJuliaI feel like the takeaway was figure out a way that seems to work best, and write it down. There are some practical implications and issues regardless of which ever way we go, if we determine there is sufficient value to do an entire federated view15:54
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NobodyCamGood Morning Iroinic'ers16:01
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TheJuliagood morning NobodyCam16:12
NobodyCam:) good morning TheJulia :)16:12
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dtantsurmorning NobodyCam16:30
NobodyCamMorning dtantsur16:30
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TheJuliadtantsur: with-in the models set forth from the edge wg, we likely are already edge-ready if the controlling deployment is in the edge and we can handle access being granted to a user federated out from another keystone. The use case that we're pushing is the remote day-0 installation of the edge hardware which does seem not well documented in their documents, but things like dhcp-less vmedia boot, httpclient16:38
TheJuliabooting do begin taking in that direction. I guess eventually we need to do the dedicated ipxe webserver ideas to further some of that along because in theory if we know enough about the hardware we might be able to build some level of authentication via the information it has via local ipxe.16:38
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dtantsurmakes sense16:39
dtantsurI guess what I want is a refarch document describing ironic at the edge16:39
jrollI plan to write it eventually16:41
jrollgotta build it first :P16:42
dtantsurjroll: maybe the other way around: write a document (put technical -2 on the patch), figure out the gaps, patch them, land the document?16:42
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dtantsurotherwise it's a bit hard to see what we lack16:43
* dtantsur is doing a similar exercise with tripleo undercloud on edge16:43
jrolldtantsur: I should say build a POC. I can't wrap my head around it all without that16:43
jrollunless we want to propose some whiteboard drawings to the refarch docs :)16:43
dtantsurwhiteboard \o/16:43
dtantsursounds like fun16:44
jrollindeed16:44
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dtantsur|afkhave a good night folks16:45
TheJuliagoodnight dtantsur|afk16:49
TheJuliaI'm also +1 for a poc first approach, or maybe >1 pocs in different directions to help kind of allow the ideas to fully evolve16:50
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TheJuliaAnyway, the idea of far far far edge has come to mind.16:51
* TheJulia goes and responds to that email16:51
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openstackgerritIlya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic master: Add configurable Redfish client authentication  https://review.openstack.org/60381816:57
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maczaIs there any trick to using ironic staging drivers?  Whenever I try i always get: DriverNotFoundInEntrypoint: Could not find the following items in the 'ironic.hardware.types' entrypoint, running in ocata18:21
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etingofmacza, are you using staging drivers that are contemporary to ironic in ocata?18:25
maczai think so? specifically  im using staging-amt, it looks like its there in the stable/ocata branch of ironic staging drivers18:28
TheJuliaI don't think the staging drivers as ocata didn't have any concept of hardware types18:29
jrollthe ironic.hardware.types entrypoint shouldn't be accessed by code in the ocata versions of both ironic and ironic-staging-drivers18:29
TheJuliaAnd there is that, I don't think it was present in ocata either, but I've not pulled it up to look18:29
jrollit definitely doesn't exist in setup.cfg in either project in ocata18:29
TheJulia\o/18:29
jroller wait18:30
jrollI fail at reading18:30
jrollmacza: can you paste your enabled_hardware_types and enabled_drivers configs here?18:31
jrollstaging-amt should be in enabled_drivers, that's probably the issue, but the error you posted doesn't tell me which items were not found :)18:31
maczasure, i just followed the documentation:18:32
maczaenabled_hardware_types = staging-amt,ipmi18:32
maczaenabled_deploy_interfaces = staging-amt,iscsi,direct18:32
maczaenabled_management_interfaces = staging-amt,ipmitool18:32
maczaenabled_power_interfaces = staging-amt,ipmitool18:32
jrollah, which documentation?18:32
maczahttps://ironic-staging-drivers.readthedocs.io/en/latest/drivers/amt.html18:33
TheJuliamacza: can you confirm the version number that you have installed?18:33
jrollah, I see, that documentation is too new18:33
TheJulia^^^ that18:33
jrollfor ocata, you should only add staging-amt to enabled_drivers18:34
maczayeah i couldnt find an older version18:34
maczaahh kk18:34
jrollyeah, I noticed that too :(18:34
maczahmm now i just get DriverNotFoundInEntrypoint: Could not find the following items in the 'ironic.drivers' entrypoint: staging-amt.18:35
jrolloops, sorry18:36
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jrollyour options there are fake_amt_fake, pxe_amt_iscsi, pxe_amt_agent18:36
jrollthose are fake, "iscsi deploy", and "direct deploy", in that order18:36
jrollhappy to give more info on those if you need them; looking for docs that exlpain it right now18:37
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maczaoh great thanks, that looks good, just having an issue with pywsman ill need to tackle18:39
TheJuliamacza: out of curiosity, what arm hardware are you trying to get to work?18:40
jrollthese aren't from ocata, but they describe the iscsi and direct deploy drivers, and link to diagrams: https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/admin/interfaces/deploy.html#iscsi-deploy18:40
jrollshould be fairly correct18:40
maczaso the staging-amt drivers should work on rocky, maybe queens?18:42
maczaits version 11.8, it says its not suported but i wanted to give it a shot18:42
jrolllooks like you could use staging-amt in queens18:42
jrollbut, using pxe_amt_iscsi is the same as setting staging-amt + direct deploy + pxe boot18:43
jroller18:43
jrollbut, using pxe_amt_iscsi is the same as setting staging-amt + iscsi deploy + pxe boot18:43
jrolland using pxe_amt_agent is the same as setting staging-amt + direct deploy + pxe boot18:43
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TheJuliamacza: Yeah, I seem to remember amt >9 has some major differences18:46
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maczadang18:54
maczado you know if theres anything down the pipeline to support later versions, or anywhere to submit the suggestion to?18:55
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TheJuliamacza: Sadly we have no plans to do so. There are a few challenges to being able to evolve support for AMT gear, one of which is actual access to such gear and nature of the way the services run sharing the port, where commands/packets can get randomly lost19:07
TheJuliaI guess that being said, your welcome to submit patches to ironic-staging-drivers. We just as ironic developers can't really do much to help since we don't tend to have that kind of hardware on hand. :(19:09
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maczaOk thanks TheJulia , that might be something i'll have to look into19:27
maczaalso thanks to both you and jroll you saved me a ton of headache19:28
TheJuliamacza: No problem, I'm just glad someone is interested in AMT at the moment. :)19:28
TheJuliamacza: Happy to help19:29
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jrollyou're welcome macza :)19:31
jrollfor the folks that were interested in a hardware inventory system at the PTG: https://review.openstack.org/60519319:32
patchbotpatch 605193 - openstack-infra/project-config - Add new project: sardonic - 1 patch set19:32
TheJuliawow, we have nearly 500 release notes19:32
* TheJulia ponders the name19:32
jrollgrimly mocking or cynical.19:34
jroll"Starkey attempted a sardonic smile"19:34
jrollsynonyms: mocking, satirical, sarcastic, ironical, ironic19:34
jroll:)19:34
TheJulia:)19:35
TheJuliaHow appropriate19:35
jrollI'm sure someone could come up with a punnier name but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯19:35
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: ipxe boot interface - begin the process  https://review.openstack.org/58340719:40
* TheJulia crosses her fingers ^^^19:40
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jrollTheJulia: hm, what do we want to talk about re: cmdb things in berlin? present what we've done in sardonic and see what else people want/need/?19:50
TheJuliaI think that would be good19:50
jrollok, thanks19:50
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jrollTheJulia: not sure how to link to it but it is ID 2279020:13
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TheJuliajroll: story ?20:52
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: pxe/ipxe: Move common calls out pxe.py  https://review.openstack.org/60027621:03
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: ipxe boot interface  https://review.openstack.org/58340721:03
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: ipxe boot interface  https://review.openstack.org/58340721:16
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