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openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Fix multi-device behavior https://review.openstack.org/592639 | 02:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Debayan Ray proposed openstack/sushy master: Omit tests from code coverage run https://review.openstack.org/604985 | 07:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-functional-python2 to zuulv3 https://review.openstack.org/600093 | 07:29 |
openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-functional-python3 to zuulv3 https://review.openstack.org/600094 | 07:29 |
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etingof | good morning, Ironicers o/ | 08:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic master: Add configurable Redfish client authentication https://review.openstack.org/603818 | 08:54 |
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dtantsur | morning ironic | 08:55 |
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stendulker | Good morning dtantsur, etingof | 09:07 |
etingof | stendulker, dtantsur o/ | 09:09 |
openstackgerrit | Olivier Bourdon proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add voting and gating test with Keystone enabled https://review.openstack.org/599544 | 09:10 |
dtantsur | sup etingof | 09:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Fix async keyword for Python 3.7 https://review.openstack.org/597468 | 09:28 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-specs master: Fix ironic-specs repo doc builds https://review.openstack.org/604797 | 09:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-functional-python2 to zuulv3 https://review.openstack.org/600093 | 09:56 |
openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-functional-python3 to zuulv3 https://review.openstack.org/600094 | 09:56 |
openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: [WIP] Switch ironic-tempest-dsvm-ipa-wholedisk-agent_ipmitool-tinyipa-multinode https://review.openstack.org/587365 | 09:56 |
dtantsur | TheJulia, mgoddard, jroll, wdyt https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003869 ? | 10:09 |
mgoddard | dtantsur: as someone who has previously mistaken node-set-provision-state deleted and node-delete, +2 | 10:11 |
mgoddard | easily done, not so easily undone :) | 10:12 |
dtantsur | true :) | 10:12 |
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dtantsur | mgoddard: it's a constant pain with tripleo: heat decided to shot down a controller because it can :) | 10:13 |
dtantsur | * shut | 10:13 |
dtantsur | one of the reasons tripleo folks resist to automated cleaning.. | 10:14 |
dtantsur | mgoddard: please record your +2 on the story then :) | 10:15 |
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mgoddard | heat and ironic don't always play particularly well together | 10:17 |
mgoddard | we tend to leave heat to managing infrastructure, then do software configuration via ansible | 10:18 |
dtantsur | no, they do not :) | 10:18 |
dtantsur | well, that's where tripleo is heading as well | 10:18 |
dtantsur | actually, ansible approach is the default starting with rocky | 10:19 |
dtantsur | and now I'm working on moving ironic from under heat as well :) | 10:19 |
mgoddard | and we don't use heat at all for managing control plane infra - too risky | 10:19 |
dtantsur | (hence metalsmith) | 10:19 |
mgoddard | good plan | 10:19 |
rpittau | w | 10:21 |
mgoddard | will you have to change your name from tripleo? | 10:21 |
dtantsur | heh | 10:25 |
sambetts|afk | I guess it'll become "OoONT" OpenStack on OpenStack (Not the Trademark) ;) | 10:25 |
sambetts|afk | or OoM (Openstack on Metalsmith) | 10:26 |
dtantsur | well, some folks raised this. for me, using mistral, neutron and ironic is enough, but who knows :) | 10:26 |
dtantsur | OoM, oh I love it! A subtle reference to how much memory the beast eats :D | 10:26 |
sambetts|afk | or how much resistance it took to get to this point ;) | 10:27 |
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jroll | lol | 10:37 |
jroll | morning | 10:37 |
dtantsur | morning jroll | 10:38 |
jroll | dtantsur: questions on that... should we also prevent from DELETE /nodes/foo? (do we already do that?) and will there be an API action like maintenance, or only the normal PATCH /nodes/foo | 10:39 |
dtantsur | jroll: 1. active nodes can only be deleted in maintenance mode, so I guess it's redundant. the goal is to protect the deployed instance, which is not affected by node deletion. 2. I'd prefer the normal PATCH. I hate what we did with maintenance.. | 10:40 |
jroll | TheJulia: I will coffee and then try to find some words for a forum topic | 10:40 |
jroll | dtantsur: ok, I thought it was redundant but wasn't sure after seeing mgoddard's comment | 10:41 |
jroll | I think it's too early for me to tell if I like your answer to 2 or not :) | 10:42 |
jroll | trying to recall why we did that, I think part of it was to avoid locking/RPC, and part to make it obvious that the two fields are related | 10:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client master: Support loading introspection rules from YAML files https://review.openstack.org/605035 | 10:45 |
dtantsur | jroll: yeah, but with my API-SIG hat on, it's not the best API design | 10:46 |
dtantsur | without this hat I don't care too much :) | 10:46 |
jroll | dtantsur: POST /nodes/foo/action {"action": "set-protected-mode"} | 10:47 |
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dtantsur | let's just switch to JSON RPC, why bother with this REST stuff... | 10:47 |
dtantsur | :) | 10:47 |
dtantsur | or what is in fashion today, gRPC? | 10:47 |
jroll | heh | 10:48 |
sambetts|afk | nahhh totally graphQL ;) | 10:48 |
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sambetts|afk | haha[3~ | 10:50 |
dtantsur | hehe | 10:50 |
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TheJulia | braaaaiiinnsss | 12:13 |
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TheJulia | dtantsur|bbl: I like it | 12:16 |
TheJulia | jroll: thanks | 12:17 |
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jroll | :) | 12:18 |
TheJulia | the inmates (cats) are rebelling since food has been verboten since last night because one of the cats is going in for surgery in a few hours | 12:19 |
jroll | that sounds loud | 12:20 |
jroll | sorry to hear it needs surgery, hope it goes well | 12:21 |
TheJulia | thanks | 12:21 |
TheJulia | which is why, I'm a ball of stress today | 12:21 |
jroll | you should go cuddle it until you need to go to the vet | 12:21 |
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TheJulia | oh wow, she is evil, she just unplugged google home | 12:24 |
TheJulia | dtantsur|bbl: I put rfe-approved in the spec, we've had similar asks from operators, even though largely the ability to delete was because nodes would slip into maintenance state | 12:25 |
TheJulia | s/spec/rfe/ | 12:25 |
TheJulia | braaaaaiiinnsss | 12:25 |
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TheJulia | Reminder: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-stein-forum-ironic-brainstorming - Topics need to be submitted by EOD tomorrow | 13:45 |
TheJulia | Add ideas! | 13:45 |
TheJulia | Also, Stein cycle community priorities: Please review if you have not already: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603161/ | 13:46 |
patchbot | patch 603161 - ironic-specs - Stein priorites - 4 patch sets | 13:46 |
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dtantsur | thanks TheJulia | 14:05 |
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TheJulia | no problem | 14:18 |
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hkominos | Hi all. I have a quick question. For some reason (unknown to me yet) Ironic does not expand the root partition. ironic node show shows the proper disk size (it also shows rootGB=40) but I dont get why. Any ideas ? https://paste.centos.org/view/a51e65bb | 14:41 |
dtantsur | hkominos: ironic does not expand root partitions, cloud-init does | 14:42 |
dtantsur | so maybe that plugin (I don't remember its name) is not enabled | 14:42 |
hkominos | dtantsur: Is it enabled in ironic.conf ? | 14:44 |
TheJulia | hkominos: it would be in whatever image you deploy | 14:44 |
dtantsur | hkominos: it's completely unrelated to ironic, it's in the image | 14:44 |
hkominos | dtantsur, TheJulia: thx | 14:46 |
dtantsur | TheJulia: have you proposed / do you plan on proposing something Edge from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-stein-forum-ironic-brainstorming ? | 14:46 |
TheJulia | dtantsur: I have not, I was hoping we could come to a more concise definition of what we wanted out of the session given the ptg discussions and ideas moving forward. | 14:48 |
* TheJulia feels forum topic selection needs at least another week.... | 14:48 | |
TheJulia | but, my brain is also behind a week due to being in boston last week | 14:48 |
dtantsur | my brain is suffering from the abrupt weather change | 14:50 |
dtantsur | going from +30 to +13 in one weekend | 14:50 |
dtantsur | TheJulia: maybe we should just ask for ideas about federation on the ops feedback thing? | 14:52 |
* dtantsur tries to think if he has enough ideas for a separate session | 14:53 | |
TheJulia | I already submitted that one | 14:53 |
TheJulia | I didn't put federation, but I see that one as freeform requirements/capabilities of ironic resync with operators | 14:53 |
dtantsur | yeah | 14:54 |
TheJulia | I feel like we could use a working session time as a sanity check/validation of plans, we just need to go ahead and get those written out asap | 14:54 |
dtantsur | I just realized that I don't know if we have plans, other than a few random ideas floating around.. | 14:55 |
TheJulia | oh, hmm | 14:56 |
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jroll | plans for federation? | 14:57 |
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dtantsur | yeah, this is probably the most discussable thing | 15:06 |
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jroll | right, I read it as general plans, which I think we have :) | 15:06 |
jroll | agree no solid plans for federation | 15:06 |
* jroll stands by his "do it outside of ironic" view | 15:07 | |
dtantsur | jroll: even "do it outside of ironic" is quite discussable | 15:08 |
jroll | dtantsur: totally | 15:08 |
jroll | dtantsur: I'm just trying to clarify if you think ironic has no plans at all, or no plans for federation | 15:08 |
dtantsur | jroll: I think largely we have quite little specifics to discuss around Edge, and the federation plans is probably the most specific thing | 15:09 |
dtantsur | in other news: I can barely express myself today :( | 15:09 |
jroll | dtantsur: ok, so ironic has no plans for edge :) | 15:10 |
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dtantsur | maybe? :) | 15:19 |
dtantsur | or maybe we're already edge-ready (modulo location awareness in nova-compute)? | 15:19 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Remove inspecting state support from inspect_hardware https://review.openstack.org/599978 | 15:20 |
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TheJulia | I feel like the takeaway was figure out a way that seems to work best, and write it down. There are some practical implications and issues regardless of which ever way we go, if we determine there is sufficient value to do an entire federated view | 15:54 |
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NobodyCam | Good Morning Iroinic'ers | 16:01 |
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TheJulia | good morning NobodyCam | 16:12 |
NobodyCam | :) good morning TheJulia :) | 16:12 |
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dtantsur | morning NobodyCam | 16:30 |
NobodyCam | Morning dtantsur | 16:30 |
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TheJulia | dtantsur: with-in the models set forth from the edge wg, we likely are already edge-ready if the controlling deployment is in the edge and we can handle access being granted to a user federated out from another keystone. The use case that we're pushing is the remote day-0 installation of the edge hardware which does seem not well documented in their documents, but things like dhcp-less vmedia boot, httpclient | 16:38 |
TheJulia | booting do begin taking in that direction. I guess eventually we need to do the dedicated ipxe webserver ideas to further some of that along because in theory if we know enough about the hardware we might be able to build some level of authentication via the information it has via local ipxe. | 16:38 |
TheJulia | </somanywords> | 16:38 |
dtantsur | makes sense | 16:39 |
dtantsur | I guess what I want is a refarch document describing ironic at the edge | 16:39 |
jroll | I plan to write it eventually | 16:41 |
jroll | gotta build it first :P | 16:42 |
dtantsur | jroll: maybe the other way around: write a document (put technical -2 on the patch), figure out the gaps, patch them, land the document? | 16:42 |
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dtantsur | otherwise it's a bit hard to see what we lack | 16:43 |
* dtantsur is doing a similar exercise with tripleo undercloud on edge | 16:43 | |
jroll | dtantsur: I should say build a POC. I can't wrap my head around it all without that | 16:43 |
jroll | unless we want to propose some whiteboard drawings to the refarch docs :) | 16:43 |
dtantsur | whiteboard \o/ | 16:43 |
dtantsur | sounds like fun | 16:44 |
jroll | indeed | 16:44 |
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dtantsur|afk | have a good night folks | 16:45 |
TheJulia | goodnight dtantsur|afk | 16:49 |
TheJulia | I'm also +1 for a poc first approach, or maybe >1 pocs in different directions to help kind of allow the ideas to fully evolve | 16:50 |
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TheJulia | Anyway, the idea of far far far edge has come to mind. | 16:51 |
* TheJulia goes and responds to that email | 16:51 | |
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openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic master: Add configurable Redfish client authentication https://review.openstack.org/603818 | 16:57 |
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macza | Is there any trick to using ironic staging drivers? Whenever I try i always get: DriverNotFoundInEntrypoint: Could not find the following items in the 'ironic.hardware.types' entrypoint, running in ocata | 18:21 |
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etingof | macza, are you using staging drivers that are contemporary to ironic in ocata? | 18:25 |
macza | i think so? specifically im using staging-amt, it looks like its there in the stable/ocata branch of ironic staging drivers | 18:28 |
TheJulia | I don't think the staging drivers as ocata didn't have any concept of hardware types | 18:29 |
jroll | the ironic.hardware.types entrypoint shouldn't be accessed by code in the ocata versions of both ironic and ironic-staging-drivers | 18:29 |
TheJulia | And there is that, I don't think it was present in ocata either, but I've not pulled it up to look | 18:29 |
jroll | it definitely doesn't exist in setup.cfg in either project in ocata | 18:29 |
TheJulia | \o/ | 18:29 |
jroll | er wait | 18:30 |
jroll | I fail at reading | 18:30 |
jroll | macza: can you paste your enabled_hardware_types and enabled_drivers configs here? | 18:31 |
jroll | staging-amt should be in enabled_drivers, that's probably the issue, but the error you posted doesn't tell me which items were not found :) | 18:31 |
macza | sure, i just followed the documentation: | 18:32 |
macza | enabled_hardware_types = staging-amt,ipmi | 18:32 |
macza | enabled_deploy_interfaces = staging-amt,iscsi,direct | 18:32 |
macza | enabled_management_interfaces = staging-amt,ipmitool | 18:32 |
macza | enabled_power_interfaces = staging-amt,ipmitool | 18:32 |
jroll | ah, which documentation? | 18:32 |
macza | https://ironic-staging-drivers.readthedocs.io/en/latest/drivers/amt.html | 18:33 |
TheJulia | macza: can you confirm the version number that you have installed? | 18:33 |
jroll | ah, I see, that documentation is too new | 18:33 |
TheJulia | ^^^ that | 18:33 |
jroll | for ocata, you should only add staging-amt to enabled_drivers | 18:34 |
macza | yeah i couldnt find an older version | 18:34 |
macza | ahh kk | 18:34 |
jroll | yeah, I noticed that too :( | 18:34 |
macza | hmm now i just get DriverNotFoundInEntrypoint: Could not find the following items in the 'ironic.drivers' entrypoint: staging-amt. | 18:35 |
jroll | oops, sorry | 18:36 |
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jroll | your options there are fake_amt_fake, pxe_amt_iscsi, pxe_amt_agent | 18:36 |
jroll | those are fake, "iscsi deploy", and "direct deploy", in that order | 18:36 |
jroll | happy to give more info on those if you need them; looking for docs that exlpain it right now | 18:37 |
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macza | oh great thanks, that looks good, just having an issue with pywsman ill need to tackle | 18:39 |
TheJulia | macza: out of curiosity, what arm hardware are you trying to get to work? | 18:40 |
jroll | these aren't from ocata, but they describe the iscsi and direct deploy drivers, and link to diagrams: https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/admin/interfaces/deploy.html#iscsi-deploy | 18:40 |
jroll | should be fairly correct | 18:40 |
macza | so the staging-amt drivers should work on rocky, maybe queens? | 18:42 |
macza | its version 11.8, it says its not suported but i wanted to give it a shot | 18:42 |
jroll | looks like you could use staging-amt in queens | 18:42 |
jroll | but, using pxe_amt_iscsi is the same as setting staging-amt + direct deploy + pxe boot | 18:43 |
jroll | er | 18:43 |
jroll | but, using pxe_amt_iscsi is the same as setting staging-amt + iscsi deploy + pxe boot | 18:43 |
jroll | and using pxe_amt_agent is the same as setting staging-amt + direct deploy + pxe boot | 18:43 |
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TheJulia | macza: Yeah, I seem to remember amt >9 has some major differences | 18:46 |
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macza | dang | 18:54 |
macza | do you know if theres anything down the pipeline to support later versions, or anywhere to submit the suggestion to? | 18:55 |
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TheJulia | macza: Sadly we have no plans to do so. There are a few challenges to being able to evolve support for AMT gear, one of which is actual access to such gear and nature of the way the services run sharing the port, where commands/packets can get randomly lost | 19:07 |
TheJulia | I guess that being said, your welcome to submit patches to ironic-staging-drivers. We just as ironic developers can't really do much to help since we don't tend to have that kind of hardware on hand. :( | 19:09 |
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macza | Ok thanks TheJulia , that might be something i'll have to look into | 19:27 |
macza | also thanks to both you and jroll you saved me a ton of headache | 19:28 |
TheJulia | macza: No problem, I'm just glad someone is interested in AMT at the moment. :) | 19:28 |
TheJulia | macza: Happy to help | 19:29 |
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jroll | you're welcome macza :) | 19:31 |
jroll | for the folks that were interested in a hardware inventory system at the PTG: https://review.openstack.org/605193 | 19:32 |
patchbot | patch 605193 - openstack-infra/project-config - Add new project: sardonic - 1 patch set | 19:32 |
TheJulia | wow, we have nearly 500 release notes | 19:32 |
* TheJulia ponders the name | 19:32 | |
jroll | grimly mocking or cynical. | 19:34 |
jroll | "Starkey attempted a sardonic smile" | 19:34 |
jroll | synonyms: mocking, satirical, sarcastic, ironical, ironic | 19:34 |
jroll | :) | 19:34 |
TheJulia | :) | 19:35 |
TheJulia | How appropriate | 19:35 |
jroll | I'm sure someone could come up with a punnier name but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 19:35 |
openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: ipxe boot interface - begin the process https://review.openstack.org/583407 | 19:40 |
* TheJulia crosses her fingers ^^^ | 19:40 | |
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jroll | TheJulia: hm, what do we want to talk about re: cmdb things in berlin? present what we've done in sardonic and see what else people want/need/? | 19:50 |
TheJulia | I think that would be good | 19:50 |
jroll | ok, thanks | 19:50 |
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jroll | TheJulia: not sure how to link to it but it is ID 22790 | 20:13 |
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TheJulia | jroll: story ? | 20:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: pxe/ipxe: Move common calls out pxe.py https://review.openstack.org/600276 | 21:03 |
openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: ipxe boot interface https://review.openstack.org/583407 | 21:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: ipxe boot interface https://review.openstack.org/583407 | 21:16 |
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