Thursday, 2018-08-30

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rpioso|afkGood nite o/00:21
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openstackgerritKaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic master: Direct deploy serve HTTP images from conductor  https://review.openstack.org/56547402:09
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openstackgerritKaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic-inspector-specs master: Configurable introspection data store  https://review.openstack.org/58769807:08
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openstackgerritKaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic-inspector-specs master: Update spec template  https://review.openstack.org/59808108:20
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openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Python 3.7: fix os.errno -> errno  https://review.openstack.org/59808208:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-ui master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/59741108:27
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openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/ironic master: Fix async keyword for Python 3.7  https://review.openstack.org/59746808:40
openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/ironic master: Fix async keyword for Python 3.7  https://review.openstack.org/59746808:41
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dtantsurmorning ironic08:49
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [WIP] Stop double json encoding the error message responses  https://review.openstack.org/56783708:54
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sambettsMorning all09:18
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dtantsurmorning sambetts09:34
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stendulkerGood morning dtantsur, sambetts09:43
dtantsurhey stendulker09:43
dtantsursambetts: if you have a second: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596425/ (this blocks adding bifrost CI to openstacksdk)09:44
patchbotpatch 596425 - bifrost - Reorder client install order - 0h 50m 15s spent in CI09:44
sambetts+A09:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/bifrost master: Reorder client install order  https://review.openstack.org/59642510:09
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dtantsura trivial patch if someone has time: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594248/10:19
patchbotpatch 594248 - sushy-tools - Bump hacking version to 1.0 (capped by 1.2) - 0h 6m 20s spent in CI10:19
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jrollmorning11:02
dtantsurmorning jroll11:02
jroll+A on the sushy-tools thing11:02
dtantsurthnx11:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/sushy-tools master: Bump hacking version to 1.0 (capped by 1.2)  https://review.openstack.org/59424811:12
openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add ability to deploy only specific nodes from the ansible inventory  https://review.openstack.org/57989811:15
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Attempt to read the partition table after writing an image  https://review.openstack.org/55768711:20
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etingofTheJulia, following up our conversation lately, I've tried to summarize the prospective redfish console work in the story -- https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200359112:23
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nizam037when the rabbitmq-server is in stopped state and i was trying to execute a ironic command  it is not thrwing any error. In logs i can see for every 2seconds it keeps retrying to connect to AMQP server. And this retry reaches till 32 seconds. why it does not increases beyond 32seconds.13:13
nizam037even though the default value of rabbit_interval_max= 30 why it is going beyond 3013:13
sambettsI assume that there is some bad logic in there somewhere a >= instead of a >13:17
sambettsso it does one more interation than it should13:17
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rpiosoGood morning, ironicers14:20
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openstackgerritBradley Jones proposed openstack/ironic master: Upgrade to IMCSDK v0.9.3.1  https://review.openstack.org/59819414:47
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dtantsurrpioso: morning. which generation of Dells introduces Redfish support?15:10
rpiosodtantsur: Good morning. It's available in 13G and 14G -- https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln310624/redfish?lang=en15:11
dtantsurthanks rpioso. do you recall whether it supports virtual media?15:12
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TheJuliaI _think_ dell has a document someplace. I know hpe does as well15:12
dtantsurI would like to see such document :)15:13
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rpiosodtantsur, TheJulia: http://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/idrac9-lifecycle-controller-v3181818_api-guide_en-us.pdf15:17
rpiosoSee pp. 103-104.15:17
dtantsuretingof: ^^15:17
dtantsurrpioso: it only mentions GET and no actions.. I wonder if it's read-only.15:19
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TheJuliahmm, the option data seems to imply that15:23
* TheJulia looks for the hpe ref15:23
openstackgerritKaifeng Wang proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client master: DNM/TEST test run_cli_negative  https://review.openstack.org/59820515:24
NobodyCamGood Morning Ironic'ers15:24
etingofDell's doc on virtmedia looks quite spartan to me15:25
TheJuliadtantsur: ilo explicitly states patch is enabled15:25
TheJuliahttp://h22208.www2.hpe.com/eginfolib/servers/docs/HPRestfultool/iLo4/data_model_reference.html#VirtualMedia15:25
dtantsurcool15:25
dtantsurmorning NobodyCam15:25
TheJuliathat document is also dated 201615:26
NobodyCamMorning dtantsur :) it's almost Friday15:26
TheJuliagood morning NobodyCam15:26
dtantsuryeah, iLO4, we now receive patches for iLO515:26
NobodyCamGood Morning TheJulia :)15:26
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TheJuliaSupermicro claims support to manage via redfish on their website, but their reference doc doesn't mention it :(15:31
NobodyCamSM virtual cd's?15:33
NobodyCamthey support it15:33
TheJuliaNobodyCam: via redfish?15:34
rpiosodtantsur: I have not tried it.15:34
NobodyCamTheJulia: yep, I use: `redfish/v1/Managers/1/VM1/CfgCD/Actions/IsoConfig.UnMount` to eject15:36
TheJuliahmmm15:36
TheJuliavariation I think15:36
TheJuliaI think the standard calls for Managers/1/VirtualMedia/...15:36
TheJuliaanywya, these kinds of variations we should expect I think15:37
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NobodyCamThat is on x11 hardware, on the x10's I still use ipmitool15:40
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rpiosojroll, mgoddard, rloo: You may find https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003594 interesting. Any feedback you have on that RFE would be much appreciated.15:44
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TheJuliait is reminiscent of oneview templates15:50
TheJuliain a sense15:50
TheJuliaso I don't think they need to live on the deploy interface loaded in the idrac interface, but perhaps something to ponder15:52
* TheJulia needs to decompress a little15:52
TheJuliabbiab15:53
jrollrpioso: you have a strange definition of interesting :)15:54
jrollit does make me curious15:54
rpiosojroll: heh15:54
jrollbut tacos are more compelling at the moment :)15:54
* jroll bbiab15:54
rpiosojroll: You have a strange curiosity15:54
jroll:P15:55
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dtantsurrpioso: I'm close to -2 to new deploy interfaces due to experience with oneview. I think we need some extension for the management (?) interface for things like profiles16:00
dtantsuror maybe even a new interface16:01
rpiosodtantsur: I agree that the management interface is a possibility, too. My only hangup with that location is that its name doesn't scream "Deploy stuff is here!".16:03
rpiosoAfter sleeping on it, I'm not thrilled about adding more deploy interfaces, either.16:04
dtantsurwe (as a project) have a very vague definition of "deploy stuff" :)16:04
dtantsurwhat I discussed with oneview folks before they bailed out is having hooks in the management interface that will be called from deploy interfaces early before touching the node and than right before releasing it16:05
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rpiosoSince the deploy step foundation has added and deploy templates may be coming soon-ish, more clarity would be helpful.16:06
dtantsur++ I guess it's a good PTG topic indeed16:07
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rpiosodtantsur: Do you feel what's being proposed by that RFE is aligned with the intended use of deploy steps?16:16
NobodyCamI thought I heard pig were going away?16:17
NobodyCam*ptg*16:17
rpiosodtantsur: Where they ultimately end up living doesn't matter to me as much.16:18
dtantsurrpioso: I think so16:19
rpiosodtantsur: :)16:21
rpiosoNobodyCam: o/16:21
NobodyCamMorning rpioso :)16:21
TheJuliadtantsur: that is my recollection as well.16:23
TheJuliaNobodyCam: kind of, they are being merged back in with the summits but as a more delineated event16:23
TheJuliaso 3 day summit, 3 day PTG16:24
NobodyCamahh :) thank you TheJulia16:24
TheJuliaso we don't end up with the pitfalls we ran into with the design summits16:24
dtantsurhopefully16:24
TheJuliayeah16:24
TheJuliahopefully16:24
TheJuliathe idea is we also kind of still do forumy details during the summit, so that becomes requirements gathering/input into the rest of the week16:25
NobodyCam:) i've always felt there was great value in attending the "look what I've done" talks.16:25
TheJuliaw/r/t additional deploy steps, I don't see why they can't sit on the management interface (since they are kind of management actions) and we just do the needful core project wise to expose/make visible/allow definition16:26
rpiosodtantsur, etingof, TheJulia: I've been informed that we currently support GET of virtual media. Attach and unattach aren't available.16:26
TheJuliarpioso: :(16:26
dtantsurrpioso: that's sad. etingof is looking into redfish-virtual-media boot interface, then it won't support Dells16:26
etingofso we can't really boot a server :(16:26
* rpioso is only the messenger16:26
etingof;-)16:26
etingofrpioso, any plans for complete virtmedia implementation?16:28
TheJuliaNobodyCam: there is definitely value in that, although those can also be discouraging in a sense. I'm really looking forward to the operators midcycle being colocated with the ptg this go around, because that will include a lot of solid feedback for us as we are more operator centric16:28
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Stop double json encoding the error message responses  https://review.openstack.org/56783716:28
dtantsuroook, this ^^^ should finally be ready now16:28
TheJuliadtantsur: \o/16:28
* dtantsur hates refactoring unit tests....16:28
TheJuliaso, regarding ptg schedule, I have stuff mostly flushed out, I had to drop an Item I was really hoping for as I was filling in addtional context16:28
NobodyCam:)16:29
TheJuliaWe have a couple windows, and we should figure out the edge discussion stuffs16:29
rpiosoetingof: Nothing's been publicly announced.16:30
rpiosoTheJulia: Events is not a priority for Dell EMC16:31
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TheJuliarpioso: ack, does anyone care about redfish events?16:31
sambetts|afknight all16:31
TheJuliagoodnight sambetts|afk16:32
dtantsurc u sambetts|afk16:32
NobodyCamNight sambetts|afk16:32
rpiososambetss|afk: Enjoy16:32
sambetts|afko/16:32
rpiosoTheJullia: However, PXE config of physical NIC ports and anything that may need to be discussed about https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003594 are priorities.16:33
rpiosoTheJulia: ^^16:34
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* rpioso has become hungry from thoughts of tacos, which were planted in his head by jroll -- bbiab16:36
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* TheJulia is thinking street tacos at the local VFW station for $1 each later tonight16:40
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NobodyCamTheJulia: Not hamburgers ?16:41
TheJuliaNobodyCam: the ones from dinner last night were more than enough :)16:42
NobodyCamLOL16:42
TheJuliarpioso|afk: I already put some time in for nic config based on some of the back and forth discussion. I think regarding the server profiles, I feel like we as a team need to write down philosophy of how we would like vendors to do vendor specific steps... so I don't think that will take too long and can guide that rfe16:44
TheJuliadtantsur: do you concur with ^16:45
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dtantsuryep16:51
TheJuliaI feel like there is mostly consensus on the management interface as well16:54
TheJuliaso maybe it is just someone needs to go write a philosophy page16:55
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dtantsur++17:04
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TheJuliaLooking at the edge discussion doodle, https://doodle.com/poll/y355wt97heffvp3m it appears that September 4th at 6 or 7 am pacific works the best17:07
* TheJulia doesn't remember who created the doodle17:07
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jrollTheJulia: I feel like it was dmitry17:29
jroll2018-08-27 13:34:51      *      dtantsur creates a doodle17:29
jrollyeah17:29
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rpiosoTheJulia: Thank you18:04
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: Add vendor step placement suggestion  https://review.openstack.org/59830318:42
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TheJuliaregarding the earlier discussion18:49
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TheJuliarpioso: I've taken events off the schedule19:00
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rpiosoTheJulia: Thank you :)19:14
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rpiosoTheJulia: And thanks for triaging the deploy steps story, including the documentation change you posted.19:17
TheJuliaI think it will likely need a spec, but more so for _our_ understanding of interaction. Given that it would be limtied to the drac management interface for hte most part, I really don't have an objection.19:18
TheJuliaof course, that is all of 598303 gains consensus :)19:18
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rpiosoTheJulia: Cool! It does call out for storing the profiles somewhere, such as glance. Is that okay?19:20
TheJuliaglance is for image data, swift would be the place to store it really19:20
TheJuliasince it is object19:20
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rpiosoTheJulia: Makes sense.19:21
rpiosoTheJulia: Are other stores acceptable, such as vmedia, web server, NFS share, and CIFS?19:22
TheJuliawhat do you mean?19:22
TheJuliaoh19:22
TheJuliai get it19:23
TheJuliaI think it would really depend on what is being connected to, ideally we really don't want the conductor to try and reach out to a NFS or CIFS endpoint to perform IO interactions because if those lock up at all, it can take down the conductor process.19:23
TheJuliaswift, http(s) url, vmedia attachment to the machine for providing such data seems perfectly fine to me19:24
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rpiosoTheJulia: There's also a 'local' option on the server's Lifecycle Controller.19:27
TheJuliabut is that not for like a usb drive attached to the machine?19:27
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TheJuliaRegarding edge discussion: jroll, dtantsur|afk: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-stein-ptg-edge19:34
jrollthanks19:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-specs master: Amendment of the agent http provisioning spec  https://review.openstack.org/59354519:35
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rpiosoTheJulia: I may be mistaken. Apparently, 'local' refers to storage attached to the host from which the import/export SCP command is issued. In other words, it would be a local file system of the ironic Conductor.20:12
rpiosoTheJulia: I bet you won't approve that one :-)20:12
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TheJuliarpioso: my brain hurts21:24
TheJuliarpioso: so... yeah :)21:24
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TheJuliaand it looks like the ironic-lib gate is broken21:35
* TheJulia sighs21:35
* TheJulia determines it is time to call it a day21:37
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jlvillalhttps://www.zdnet.com/article/new-openstack-cloud-release-embraces-bare-metal/ :)22:49
NobodyCamjlvillal: \.o./22:53
rpiosojlvillal: Awesome! ty23:01
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