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| olivierb- | Good morning Ironic and thanks yolanda for the reviews ;-) | 07:58 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic | 09:33 |
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| * dtantsur sees ironic 11.0.0 approved | 10:08 | |
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| prometheanfire | ironic has a full finished rocky release? (11.0.0)? | 10:26 |
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| jroll | morning y'all | 10:54 |
| jroll | prometheanfire: we follow the cycle-with-intermediary model, we'll have another release before the end of rocky | 10:56 |
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| prometheanfire | cool | 10:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: Fix 11.0 prelude formatting https://review.openstack.org/580341 | 10:59 |
| dtantsur | prometheanfire: what jroll said, we're planning on another, hopefully calmer, release | 10:59 |
| dtantsur | morning jroll | 10:59 |
| jroll | dtantsur: morning, I think we want this format fix ^^ | 10:59 |
| prometheanfire | dtantsur: that's fine, just didn't know it was cycle with intermediary, was curious :P | 11:00 |
| dtantsur | jroll: let us see how it renders, given that we've tagged already | 11:00 |
| jroll | yep | 11:00 |
| jroll | release notes don't need to be tagged though, right? | 11:00 |
| dtantsur | jroll: no, they do | 11:00 |
| dtantsur | don't | 11:00 |
| dtantsur | meh | 11:00 |
| * jroll wants to wait for the render anyway | 11:00 | |
| * dtantsur brb | 11:01 | |
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| dtantsur | I have an idea for an API improvement around changing drivers | 11:02 |
| dtantsur | I'll file a story soon(ish) | 11:02 |
| jroll | ++ | 11:03 |
| jroll | relatedly, working on conductor affinity makes me want to overhaul our conductor management api (or lack thereof) | 11:04 |
| jroll | I should probably read the spec already proposed for this | 11:04 |
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| dtantsur | heh | 11:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Aija Jaunteva proposed openstack/sushy-tools master: Fix ImportError for tox debug environment https://review.openstack.org/580348 | 11:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: Fix 11.0 prelude formatting https://review.openstack.org/580341 | 12:08 |
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| yolanda | hi jroll , TheJulia , can you give extra +2 +w to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579156/ ? | 12:09 |
| patchbot | patch 579156 - ironic-tempest-plugin - Force deploy_interface for cleaning to be iscsi | 12:09 |
| jroll | yolanda: done, thanks for the ping | 12:10 |
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| yolanda | jroll, thx | 12:17 |
| dtantsur | jroll: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002868 wdyt? | 12:20 |
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| jroll | dtantsur: yeah, I like it | 12:25 |
| jroll | I wonder if --reset-interfaces should just send none for each | 12:25 |
| dtantsur | cool. I'll add it to RFE review for the next meeting, but I won't be there | 12:25 |
| jroll | instead of dealing with microversions and such | 12:25 |
| dtantsur | jroll: this requires the client to know/learn which interfaces are supported by the server | 12:25 |
| jroll | mmm. | 12:25 |
| jroll | fair point | 12:26 |
| jroll | mention adding a microversion in the description and I'll drop a +1 on the RFE :) | 12:26 |
| * dtantsur updates | 12:26 | |
| * jroll comments | 12:27 | |
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| dtantsur | jroll: updated | 12:29 |
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| jroll | thanks! | 12:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: Add conductor_group field to nodes and conductors tables https://review.openstack.org/579626 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: Add conductor_group field to config, node and conductor objects https://review.openstack.org/579627 | 12:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: new hash ring calculation with conductor group https://review.openstack.org/579684 | 12:31 |
| jroll | sigh | 12:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: Fix 11.0 prelude formatting https://review.openstack.org/580341 | 12:33 |
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| * dtantsur just confirmed that --reset-XXX-interface does not require server changes, yay | 12:37 | |
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| serlex | hi, when creating a port, is the MAC address equals net0 or ILOM(KVM) mac address? | 12:39 |
| dtantsur | serlex: probably net0. this should be a MAC of a NIC in the machine, not its management NIC | 12:39 |
| serlex | awesome, thanks for the quick reply | 12:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironicclient master: Support resetting interfaces to their default values https://review.openstack.org/580377 | 13:16 |
| * dtantsur played around with ^^^ and really likes it | 13:24 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Add unit tests that "remove" is acceptable on /XXX_interface node fields https://review.openstack.org/580383 | 13:43 |
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| rloo | good morning Ironic'ers! | 13:45 |
| rloo | mgoddard: thx for taking over the deploy steps! | 13:45 |
| mgoddard | morning rloo: no problem! Does the split make sense? | 13:52 |
| rloo | mgoddard: starting to look (but I got distracted, will restart soon) | 13:53 |
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| rloo | mgoddard: yes, i think the split makes sense. we could split the last one into more patches (the API/notificationo one) but for me (since we know what we are doing), the fewer patches the better :) | 13:57 |
| mgoddard | rloo: yeah, jroll & TheJulia seemed surprised by the split, but I thought it would be good to pick apart the simple parts from the hard | 13:59 |
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| jroll | I was only surprised as we discussed not splitting it earlier in the week :) | 13:59 |
| rloo | mgoddard: oh, what surprise? | 13:59 |
| rloo | ah, i see, not to split it at all. | 13:59 |
| mgoddard | jroll: oops, must have missed that | 13:59 |
| rloo | that would have been fine too -- the first feature-in-one-patch :D | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin master: Add API tests for setting/resetting hardware interfaces https://review.openstack.org/580385 | 14:00 |
| dtantsur | morning rloo | 14:00 |
| mgoddard | I think the first two should be ready to go, so would be nice to get those in soon | 14:00 |
| mgoddard | I need more time to get to grips with the conductor & driver changes | 14:01 |
| rloo | mgoddard: i ok'd the first, looking at the second. | 14:01 |
| mgoddard | rloo: thanks | 14:01 |
| jroll | mgoddard: no worries, it's fine | 14:01 |
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| rloo | mgoddard: yeah, that's the meat of the problem, the conductor & drivers. what i didn't know was whether to break it into two deploy steps, but i figured start with one. i need to think about upgrade/out-of-tree drivers a bit more. | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin master: Force deploy_interface for cleaning to be iscsi https://review.openstack.org/579156 | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Fix 11.0 prelude formatting https://review.openstack.org/580341 | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Change docs bug link to storyboard https://review.openstack.org/580323 | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-inspector master: Invalid links in doc file https://review.openstack.org/580329 | 14:06 |
| mgoddard | rloo: if you do have thoughts then send them my way :) | 14:06 |
| rloo | mgoddard: i will, once i think of them. going to try to do it today or tomorrow... | 14:06 |
| rloo | mgoddard: i'm adding the topic 'story/1753128' to the patches | 14:08 |
| mgoddard | rloo: I'm otherwise engaged today & tomorrow so that works for me | 14:08 |
| mgoddard | rloo: thanks | 14:08 |
| rloo | mgoddard: ok | 14:08 |
| dtantsur | rloo: if you have a minute, wdyt about https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002868 ? | 14:13 |
| dtantsur | ditto mgoddard | 14:13 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i haven't read it all but yes, that was my thought before, changing the driver was going to be a pain wrt the interfaces :) I'll look at that later today. | 14:14 |
| dtantsur | yep, I'm trying to lower this pain :) | 14:14 |
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| rloo | did we release ironic 11? | 14:18 |
| jroll | yep :) | 14:18 |
| rloo | yay! | 14:18 |
| rloo | "I R O N I C turns the dial to 11" feels like a birthday party is in order! | 14:19 |
| jroll | TheJulia: ++ on "I R O N I C" btw :) | 14:19 |
| rloo | (i see a typo but...) | 14:19 |
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| * TheJulia dances while waiting for a replacement part for the air conditioner | 14:20 | |
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| rloo | did these get done? (before releasing & after releasing) https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/contributor/releasing.html#things-to-do-before-releasing | 14:21 |
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| TheJulia | Doh! | 14:23 |
| TheJulia | Forgot release mapping :( | 14:24 |
| TheJulia | I guess fix and we can cut 11.0.1 :( | 14:25 |
| rloo | TheJulia: :-( | 14:25 |
| dtantsur | :( | 14:26 |
| rloo | fwiw, based on the description, it isn't as urgent wrt these releases, but it is for the stable branch release. | 14:26 |
| rloo | 'urgent' == doing it before cutting the release | 14:27 |
| dtantsur | yeah | 14:28 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, if memory aerves it is a must before the next release | 14:34 |
| TheJulia | Serves... Anyway, going back to pto and hopefully fixing the broken air conditioner | 14:35 |
| dtantsur | jroll: mind taking a quick look, we need to unblock unit tests: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580208/ | 14:44 |
| patchbot | patch 580208 - sushy-tools - Fix return content-type to be JSON | 14:44 |
| dtantsur | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579133/ if you have more time | 14:45 |
| patchbot | patch 579133 - sushy-tools - Remove Flask mocking from tests | 14:45 |
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| jroll | what in the | 14:47 |
| jroll | dtantsur: +W on the first | 14:47 |
| jroll | on the second... why are we templating json | 14:47 |
| jroll | this is completely static, even: https://github.com/openstack/sushy-tools/blob/master/sushy_tools/emulator/templates/root.json | 14:48 |
| jroll | we should define a dict, manipulate it as needed, dump it to json | 14:48 |
| sambetts | I guess someone didn't know about flask.jsonify ;) | 14:49 |
| jroll | sambetts: they even reimplemented it :) https://github.com/openstack/sushy-tools/blob/master/sushy_tools/emulator/main.py#L76 | 14:50 |
| * jroll finds a match and some gasoline | 14:50 | |
| sambetts | le sigh... | 14:50 |
| dtantsur | jroll, sambetts, I suspect the reason was that lucasagomes just took examples from DMTF and inserted Jinja tags in them | 14:56 |
| jroll | sure | 14:57 |
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| * lucasagomes reads | 14:58 | |
| lucasagomes | hey all :D | 14:58 |
| etingof | jroll, I think one reason for using templates there is to be able to extend it w/o touching much of the code | 14:58 |
| sambetts | o/ lucasagomes | 14:58 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes: hey there! how's going? | 14:58 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes: any chances to see you in Berlin this autumn? | 14:59 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, all good man, how r things ? | 14:59 |
| jroll | hey lucasagomes :) | 14:59 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, for the OpenStack event ? I think minimal dude, unfortunately | 14:59 |
| lucasagomes | u going ? | 14:59 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, sambetts o/ | 14:59 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes: well, I don't have reasons NOT to :) budget for me is around zero | 14:59 |
| lucasagomes | true that | 14:59 |
| jroll | party at dtantsur's home? | 15:00 |
| dtantsur | jroll: as long as you're nice to Mrs Tantsur | 15:01 |
| jroll | of course! | 15:01 |
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| lucasagomes | haha | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | and don't invite too many people - it's a European flat, not a typical USA home :D | 15:02 |
| etingof | therefore some Germans party in city parks | 15:05 |
| dtantsur | in November? | 15:05 |
| dtantsur | good luck, I'll skip :D | 15:05 |
| dtantsur | let's just rent BrewDog for an evening | 15:05 |
| dtantsur | JFYI last late autumn we had 2 or 3 major storms | 15:06 |
| dtantsur | major = with transport outage | 15:07 |
| rloo | oh, so we're moving up. PTG storms -> Summit storms? | 15:11 |
| dtantsur | :) | 15:11 |
| jroll | I would be in for renting brewdog | 15:15 |
| jroll | but only if I can jump in a fermentation tank | 15:15 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning Ironic'ers | 15:18 |
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| rpioso | Good morning | 15:27 |
| dtantsur | morning NobodyCam, rpioso | 15:28 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning dtantsur and rpioso :) | 15:28 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Did some one say party at dtantsur's? | 15:28 |
| rpioso | NobodyCam: Hey :) | 15:29 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sushy-tools master: Fix return content-type to be JSON https://review.openstack.org/580208 | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sushy-tools master: Remove Flask mocking from tests https://review.openstack.org/579133 | 15:30 |
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| rloo | folks, you good with approving this rfe? (I am.) https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/1751748 | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | rloo: +2 | 15:53 |
| rloo | thx dtantsur! | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Add unit tests that "remove" is acceptable on /XXX_interface node fields https://review.openstack.org/580383 | 16:02 |
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| markguz | TheJulia: the patch you created in princpal works, however now for either bios or uefi the created pxe boot file is being created without he preceding "01-" and systems are no longer booting to the deploy kernel | 16:19 |
| TheJulia | markguz: both preceeding with 01-? | 16:20 |
| TheJulia | Seems like an easy fix | 16:20 |
| markguz | TheJulia: yes the pxe config files are usually created like /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/01-6c-ae-8b-2f-42-90 | 16:21 |
| markguz | but now /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/6c-ae-8b-2f-42-90 | 16:21 |
| markguz | TheJulia: Yeah, what's weird is i don't really se where you changed that in your patch | 16:22 |
| markguz | TheJulia: But then again. i'm not really a coder so i could have missed it | 16:23 |
| TheJulia | markguz: i think i know where, but it is interesting that it magically adds that :/ | 16:24 |
| markguz | AFAIK it needs the 01 for the pxe boot to work | 16:24 |
| markguz | TheJulia: see here http://paste.openstack.org/show/725128/ | 16:25 |
| TheJulia | markguz: yeah, i was worried that was thw case event though the template is just the mac address | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed openstack/ironic master: Add read&write SNMP community names to `snmp` driver https://review.openstack.org/579173 | 16:26 |
| TheJulia | Same for a uefi machine? | 16:27 |
| markguz | TheJulia: i don't think so. | 16:27 |
| TheJulia | Oh | 16:27 |
| TheJulia | Fun | 16:27 |
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| markguz | TheJulia: I got the uefi to boot, but there needs to be other things configured on the boot side for stuff to work properly | 16:27 |
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| TheJulia | markguz: if you wouldnt mind, create a story on storyboard.openatack.org, send me the link, and ill try to get things sorted for you on monday | 16:28 |
| * TheJulia needs to go back to PTO | 16:29 | |
| markguz | TheJulia: 22848 | 16:33 |
| TheJulia | Task? | 16:33 |
| rloo | dtantsur: you still around? wrt https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002868. is 'remove' equivalent to None? Or maybe I don't quite understand your RFE | 16:34 |
| markguz | TheJulia: yeah | 16:34 |
| dtantsur | rloo: apparently yes: sending "op": "remove" makes the value end up being None | 16:34 |
| * jroll mutes TheJulia's mobile notifications | 16:34 | |
| * dtantsur tries locally | 16:34 | |
| rloo | dtantsur: Oh, you mean internally, in the node. The user isn't explicitly setting an interface to None (which we probably allow?) | 16:35 |
| TheJulia | markguz: thanka, i reaume pto befodw everyone geta mad at me | 16:35 |
| TheJulia | Before geta | 16:35 |
| TheJulia | Gets | 16:35 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I suspect both will work, but using "remove" seems cleaner to me | 16:35 |
| * TheJulia puts down the phone | 16:35 | |
| markguz | TheJulia: enjoy | 16:35 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i just want to make sure the user can do (if it is allowed) some_interface=None vs reset-some-interface | 16:36 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I think they can. the problem is with CLI: None will be treated as string "None" | 16:36 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: cuz reset will reset to the default value for that interface (based on configs, right?) whereas explicit some_interface=None sets it to None? | 16:36 |
| dtantsur | rloo: if you mean python None, it works the same as reset. if you mean string "None", then no | 16:38 |
| rloo | dtantsur: I want to make sure 'reset-x-interface' resets the interface to the default, whatever it may be. vs setting the interface to None (which might not be the default) | 16:38 |
| dtantsur | rloo: it's impossible to set an interface to None after the driver composition reform | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | in the conductor None is converted to the default | 16:39 |
| rloo | dtantsur: OH. | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | on create/update | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | this is not something I'm changing, this has been the case from the beginning :) | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | this allowed us to get rid of infinite "if task.driver.management is not None: ..." | 16:40 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i thought we had some interfaces, eg inspector, that could be None? | 16:40 |
| jroll | they can be no-inspect, for instance | 16:40 |
| jroll | but not None | 16:40 |
| rloo | ah, that's what we did. thx jroll. | 16:40 |
| rloo | ok, so dtantsur, you want to change the ironic code to handle None to mean use default interface value. Right? | 16:41 |
| dtantsur | rloo: ironic code does it already | 16:42 |
| rloo | dtantsur: I'm just trying to understand that 'Allow None as a valid *_interface value..' part | 16:42 |
| rloo | dtantsur: I'm good with the new --reset-x-interface in the client. | 16:42 |
| dtantsur | rloo: yeah, it should be removed. I wrote it before I tested that None already works as the default. | 16:43 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ok, if you remove, I"m good with #1. i guess it will work with whatever API version is associated with that x-interface. | 16:44 |
| dtantsur | rloo: reworded. yep. | 16:44 |
| rloo | dtantsur: wrt #2. are you going to do 'op': 'remove', 'path': /xxx_interface for all xxx? | 16:44 |
| rloo | dtantsur: for --reset-interfaces option | 16:44 |
| dtantsur | rloo: no, because the client might not know all interfaces. so I'm proposing a new API flag. | 16:45 |
| rloo | dtantsur: did i miss that? what API flag? | 16:45 |
| dtantsur | rloo: "Add a new boolean API parameter reset_interfaces" I should have mentioned the API though | 16:45 |
| rloo | dtantsur: oh, i did miss it. sorry. | 16:45 |
| dtantsur | s/API/endpoint/ (sigh) | 16:46 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: example? an openstack baremetal node set == a PATCH request, right? | 16:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: Add conductor_group field to nodes and conductors tables https://review.openstack.org/579626 | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: Add conductor_group field to config, node and conductor objects https://review.openstack.org/579627 | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: Use conductor group for hash ring calculations https://review.openstack.org/579684 | 16:48 |
| dtantsur | rloo: yep, it's for PATCH /v1/nodes/<NODE> | 16:49 |
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| rloo | so would it be 'PATCH /v1/nodes/<NODE>?reset_interfaces' ? | 16:49 |
| * jroll wishes someone would come along and write the rest API changes for this patch series for him | 16:49 | |
| dtantsur | rather PATCH /v1/nodes/<NODE>?reset_interfaces=True | 16:50 |
| dtantsur | but yeah, that's the idea | 16:50 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: if you would update the RFE with that ^^, I'm good with approving | 16:50 |
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| dtantsur | rloo: done | 16:51 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: and presumably, one could do --reset-interfaces w/o anything else? eg 'openstack baremetal node blah'. i guess not. | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/ironic master: [DNM] Testing Cisco Third Party CI https://review.openstack.org/514312 | 16:52 |
| dtantsur | rloo: well, I can imagine a use case for that. e.g. you were playing with various interfaces and now just want to reset everything to the defaults. | 16:52 |
| rloo | dtantsur: right, i can see a usecase too. but the CLI doesn't allow for it. | 16:53 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: same thing with the --reset-deploy-interface. can you specify that w/o 'set --driver' | 16:53 |
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| dtantsur | rloo: the latter - yes. because it's a part of the PATCH | 16:53 |
| dtantsur | the former - probably no | 16:54 |
| rloo | so with the latter 'openstack baremetal node set --reset-deploy-interface test' ? | 16:54 |
| dtantsur | rloo: yep, I already tried it locally today | 16:54 |
| dtantsur | it's kind of duplicated with 'baremetal node unset --deploy-interface' I guess | 16:55 |
| dtantsur | the key point is being able to do it simultaneously with the driver change | 16:55 |
| rloo | dtantsur: well, unset is different from reset. | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | vinay kumar muddu proposed openstack/ironic master: iLO BIOS interface implementation https://review.openstack.org/576803 | 16:55 |
| rloo | dtantsur: unset would be, eg (I think)with foo_interface values 'no-foo', 'foobar' where 'foobar' is default, unset == no-foo. reset == foobar? | 16:56 |
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| sambetts | I think the reason we have the noop interfaces is so we can tell the difference between setting it to noop and setting it to None | 16:56 |
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| sambetts | personally I think setting the interface to None(null) == select me the default | 16:57 |
| sambetts | because it basically means I have no preference for this interface | 16:57 |
| jroll | unset is None (use default) | 16:57 |
| rloo | sambetts: in that case, unset and reset is the same | 16:57 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I think unset is the same as reset, which we probably overlooked when working on unset.. | 16:57 |
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| sambetts | rloo: yup unset and reset are the same, disable == explictly set the interface to the no-op version of that interface | 16:58 |
| rloo | dtantsur: sorry, i'm going to suggest s/reset/unset/ in your rfe then | 16:58 |
| jroll | hm, do we need --reset-x-interface since we have unset? | 16:58 |
| dtantsur | jroll: we cannot do unset at simultaneously with changing a driver | 16:59 |
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| jroll | oh right | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | that's the key driver (pun intended) of this RFE | 16:59 |
| rloo | can we do 'openstack node set --driver ipmi --unset-deploy-interface test' ? | 16:59 |
| jroll | yeah | 16:59 |
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| dtantsur | rloo: it's going to be confusing. in other cases unset sets to None | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | in this case unset will set to something non-None | 16:59 |
| rloo | dtantsur: does 'other cases' == interfaces or non-interfaces | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | that's why I picked reset over it | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | rloo: baremetal node unset --instance-uuid --name | 17:00 |
| rloo | cuz you are proposing for only interfaces | 17:00 |
| jroll | dtantsur: side topic, when you have some time, I could use some thoughts here on line 166, though I haven't made a list of what uses it yet: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579684/5/ironic/conductor/rpcapi.py | 17:00 |
| patchbot | patch 579684 - ironic - Use conductor group for hash ring calculations | 17:00 |
| sambetts | surely we can make unsetting an interface at the same time as changing the driver work? | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: that's what my RFE is about | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002868 | 17:01 |
| sambetts | I mean as it is today as two patch without an API change | 17:01 |
| sambetts | surely thats just bad logic on our backend processing the patch request | 17:01 |
| rloo | sambetts: no, it has to do with the CLI: https://docs.openstack.org/python-ironicclient/latest/cli/osc/v1/index.html#baremetal-node-unset | 17:01 |
| rloo | sambetts: set & unset are two separate commands | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | yeah, and unset is doing different things... | 17:02 |
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| dtantsur | actually, we should not have done 'baremetal node unset --deploy-interface' at all | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | because it's not unsetting it: neither setting to None nor removing | 17:02 |
| rloo | dtantsur: what is it doing? it is resetting to default, right? | 17:03 |
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| dtantsur | rloo: right :( | 17:03 |
| rloo | dtantsur: still, what is the ideal CLI then? | 17:03 |
| sambetts | the user interface for doing it and the API logic are two differnt things, our patch API currently supports passing a add and a remove at the same time so we should use it | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I think we should have done what I'm trying to do now in the beginning | 17:03 |
| sambetts | we shouldn't add new APIs because the CLI is bad | 17:03 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts: well, the new API is adding for something CLI cannot easily do | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | there are two cases in the RFE | 17:04 |
| rloo | sambetts: the only new REST API change being added is this new 'reset-interfaces' (to reset all interfaces that aren't explicitly being set) | 17:04 |
| sambetts | right but what I'm saying is that is a duplication of a feature that already exists in our API | 17:04 |
| rloo | dtantsur: we can deprecate CLI stuff? | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: no, it does not | 17:05 |
| sambetts | it does, you state that in your first case in the RFE | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | rloo: yeah, we probably can. /me starts feeling how his small RFE is growing into a spec | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: yes - if you know the interface. | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | the case #2 is about resetting all interfaces, and the client side may not know them all | 17:06 |
| sambetts | ok so this is two different RFEs | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | I can split them if you will.. but they're behind one story: changing a driver can be hard | 17:06 |
| rloo | yeah, to some extent. there are two changes here. but they are related, and they need to fit with our existing API & CLI. | 17:07 |
| sambetts | ok so we need an API that can list all the interfaces | 17:07 |
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| sambetts | then the CLI needs to pass a op remove for all the interfaces | 17:07 |
| sambetts | to clear then | 17:07 |
| sambetts | them* | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: I know what you're trying to say, but microversions... | 17:07 |
| * rloo gets lunch cuz with sambetts on the job, he'll help solve it :) | 17:07 | |
| dtantsur | all the interfaces for CLI may not match all the interfaces for the server | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | because the CLI may not be using the latest microversion | 17:08 |
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| sambetts | an API for listing all the interfaces, should not hide interfaces regardless of microversion | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: well, then it's going to confuse the users, because they may try to use the interfaces they're not exposed to | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | like, you see bios_interface in GET /v1/interfaces, but you cannot set it on a node | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | also, we're talking about adding a new API anyway :) | 17:10 |
| sambetts | I think we already have that API on /v1/drivers right? not sure | 17:10 |
| sambetts | yup /v1/drivers lists all the interface defaults | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: yeah, but then you have to 1. fetch the node in question, 2. get its driver, 3. use /v1/drivers to get the interfaces, 4. do patch | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | it's 3 requests instead of one | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | and I think we do microversion the output of /v1/drivers | 17:12 |
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| dtantsur | right, we do https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512579/51/ironic/api/controllers/v1/driver.py@82 | 17:13 |
| patchbot | patch 512579 - ironic - Add Node BIOS support - REST API (MERGED) | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: we can chat tomorrow re ^^^, a bit late now | 17:15 |
| sambetts | yeah... so much for API discovery, but anyway | 17:15 |
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| * sambetts didn't mean to scare rloo off | 17:16 | |
| dtantsur | heh | 17:16 |
| jroll | I agree it's doable by listing the interfaces and iterating over them | 17:16 |
| jroll | but I think "reset all" is a good user experience | 17:16 |
| jroll | and we should do it | 17:16 |
| jroll | actually, maybe we should do both over the long term :) | 17:17 |
| sambetts | being able to discover the interfaces would mean we could stop adding a new microversion everytime we a new interface to a node | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: well, it's against the microversioning idea | 17:18 |
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| dtantsur | if we do microversion the way it's supposed to, we have to version any change that is not a bug fix (and even many bug fixes) | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | adding visible interfaces certainly falls under the feature bucket | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | as you know, I'm not the biggest fan of microversioning, but now that we do it, we should do it correctly IMO :) | 17:19 |
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| sambetts | but if we add discoverablity and make interfaces a proper sub-resource of a node where the table is (node_id, type, name) then the API is no longer changing when we add a new interfae | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | ah, that's what you mean | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | yeah, it's a good idea. but it certainly goes beyond "fix bad UX with changing drivers" | 17:20 |
| sambetts | yeah, its a different story | 17:20 |
| jroll | agree with all of this | 17:21 |
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| dtantsur | okay, I guess I'll leave it here for now. maybe we can converge on something tomorrow :) | 17:25 |
| rloo | sambetts didn't scare me off; rather, I felt comfortable leaving cuz the issue was in good hands :) | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | heh | 17:25 |
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| sambetts | :-P | 17:26 |
| dtantsur|afk | see you | 17:26 |
| sambetts | o/ dtantsur|afk | 17:26 |
| jroll | night dtantsur|afk | 17:26 |
| rloo | good night dtantsur|afk | 17:28 |
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| sambetts | :p now all I can think about is how to solve this when I should be fixing the ansible bug I've got downstream... that'll teach me to have IRC open in the background | 17:38 |
| sambetts | night all o/ | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic master: Use conductor group for hash ring calculations https://review.openstack.org/579684 | 20:37 |
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