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| openstackgerrit | Dao Cong Tien proposed openstack/ironic master: Missing import of "_" https://review.openstack.org/570110 | 03:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/ironic master: [WIP] Fix authentication along with add multi extra volumes https://review.openstack.org/570145 | 08:52 |
| vdrok | good morning ironic | 08:57 |
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| etingof | vdrok \o | 09:06 |
| vdrok | morning etingof | 09:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Power fault recovery: db and rpc implementation https://review.openstack.org/555708 | 11:03 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic | 11:21 |
| dtantsur | I got disconnected overnight, so repeat any pings | 11:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Improve exception handling in agent_base_vendor https://review.openstack.org/570173 | 12:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Improve exception handling in agent_base_vendor https://review.openstack.org/570173 | 12:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: [WIP] Glance failure for non-public images https://review.openstack.org/570174 | 12:14 |
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| dtantsur | BRKNG: ironic does not work with non-public images >_< at least with non-public instance kernel/ramdisk | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Improve exception handling in agent_base_vendor https://review.openstack.org/570173 | 13:32 |
| dtantsur | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002091 for those wondering | 13:32 |
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| bdodd | Good morning ironicers | 14:13 |
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| rpioso | Good morning, all | 14:22 |
| etingof | bdodd, rpioso o/ | 14:23 |
| rpioso | etingof: Hey! :-) | 14:23 |
| bdodd | morning etingof | 14:25 |
| bdodd | rpioso, dtantsur: thanks for the review comments. I'll make those changes today. | 14:26 |
| rpioso | bdodd: np. Thank you for the contribution! | 14:26 |
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| rpioso | I'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570109, and have a question about manual, out-of-band cleaning. | 14:45 |
| patchbot | patch 570109 - ironic - Make method to the public which support for RAID c... | 14:45 |
| rpioso | Does https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/5f7d60a6c6f7338da2ba89d2d000c58d1337830d/ironic/drivers/modules/agent_base_vendor.py#L444 apply to out-of-band cleaning? | 14:45 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Do you know who might be able to answer my question above? | 14:55 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: hey, on meeting, will check | 14:55 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: btw, somebody just asked me: does Dell already support BIOS in Redfish? | 14:55 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Thank you. | 14:56 |
| dtantsur | like, if our intern implements it, can someone test it in practice? | 14:56 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: ^^? | 14:56 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Funny you should ask. | 14:56 |
| dtantsur | * implements in sushy | 14:56 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: I recently tried it, and found that it does work. | 14:57 |
| dtantsur | nice! | 14:58 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: It does require an OEM action to create an iDRAC configuration job, which then applies the settings change. | 14:59 |
| dtantsur | oh, this complicates everything.. | 14:59 |
| dtantsur | well, not everything, but we won't be able to have a generic implementation working with it | 14:59 |
| dtantsur | etingof: ^^^ | 14:59 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Could the code be factored in such a way that the sushy additions could be used by an iDRAC-specific Redfish implementation of the BIOS interface? | 15:00 |
| rpioso | bdodd, mraineri: ^^^ | 15:01 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: possibly. but it's still very sad that we'll need such additions | 15:01 |
| dtantsur | then somebody taking just sushy won't be able to do BIOS with Dells | 15:01 |
| dtantsur | (we can solve it for ironic ofc) | 15:01 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: The standard is evolving. There's been an annotation addition that can be used to specify when to apply settings changes. | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | aha, good | 15:03 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: I'll dig it up. | 15:03 |
| dtantsur | thanks! | 15:04 |
| * etingof is wondering if Dell can expose some sort of wrapper over the OEM implementation to expose the standard Redfish way of settings change? | 15:04 | |
| * etingof supposes that Dell has it in OEM way because of some add-on features that the standard does not implement | 15:04 | |
| etingof | ajya, ^ | 15:05 |
| * rpioso is digging | 15:06 | |
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| rpioso | DMTF Redfish Specification 1.3.0, dated October 2, 2017, added @Redfish.SettingsApplyTime. The server implementation can specify what apply time settings it supports. | 15:12 |
| rpioso | dtantsur, etingof: ^^^ | 15:13 |
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| rpioso | dtantsur, etingof: https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0266_1.3.0.pdf | 15:13 |
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| etingof | rpioso, does it get in the way somehow? | 15:14 |
| rpioso | dtantsur, etingof: Please be aware that the new DMTF Redfish Forum contributors, bdodd, mraineri, and tomasg2012, are considering working on a Redfish implementation of the new BIOS interface. | 15:23 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: I think ajya has already started working on the sushy part, but not on the ironic one | 15:23 |
| dtantsur | she may use some help with testing things | 15:24 |
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| rpioso | dtantsur: Cool :-) | 15:24 |
| rpioso | bdodd, mraineri: ^^^ | 15:24 |
| rpioso | etingof: Please elaborate. Does what get in the way somehow? | 15:25 |
| etingof | bdodd, mraineri https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001791 | 15:25 |
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| etingof | rpioso, I am just wondering why Dell has chosen to go the OEM way for BIOS management as opposed to taking the standard path? | 15:26 |
| etingof | so I am just guessing up the explanations ;) | 15:27 |
| ajya | etingof, dtantsur how does this affect sushy implementation? | 15:31 |
| rpioso | etingof: The standard annotation I mentioned was published very recently, at the end of last year. Creating an iDRAC configuration job provides similar functionality. | 15:31 |
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| etingof | rpioso, right, I am just thinking if it would be possible for Dell to support non-OEM way of BIOS mgmt alongside the OEM way...? | 15:34 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning Ironic'ers | 15:34 |
| NobodyCam | Hope summit is going well for folks | 15:34 |
| dtantsur | morning NobodyCam | 15:34 |
| NobodyCam | Morning dtantsur :) | 15:34 |
| dtantsur | ajya: I guess at least it means that we should expect redfish 1.3.0 or newer | 15:34 |
| etingof | rpioso, because then stock sushy/ironic could hopefully do BIOS mgmt out of the box | 15:35 |
| etingof | morning o/ NobodyCam | 15:35 |
| ajya | dtantsur, ok, then for now I will continue with 1.3.0 and @Redfish.Settings as they are now | 15:36 |
| NobodyCam | morning etingof :) | 15:36 |
| dtantsur | ajya: yep, unless rpioso has objections | 15:36 |
| etingof | NobodyCam, there are some videos up on youtube | 15:37 |
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| NobodyCam | from summit? | 15:40 |
| NobodyCam | or of me :p | 15:40 |
| etingof | NobodyCam, I am only aware of the summit videos so far ;) | 15:41 |
| NobodyCam | LOL +++!!!!! | 15:41 |
| rpioso | ajya, dtantsur: The iDRAC presently implements the BIOS schema defined by the DMTF Redfish Schema version 2016.1 -- https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP8010_2016.1.zip | 15:42 |
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| ajya | rpios, it has Bios v.1.0.0. How is password changed there? Because this version does not have any Action arguments to pass old/now password, which is added in the latest schema. | 15:46 |
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| rpioso | ajya: Good question. Let me see if I can discover that from the iDRAC Redfish server. | 15:50 |
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| * rpioso is seeing an answer for ajya | 16:03 | |
| rpioso | s/seeing/seeking/ | 16:03 |
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| rpioso | ajya: http://www.dell.com/support/manuals/cd/en/cdbsdt1/idrac9-lifecycle-controller-v3.18.18.18/idrac_3.18.18.18_redfishapiguide/notes-cautions-and-warnings?guid=guid-5b8de7b7-879f-45a4-88e0-732155904029&lang=en-us | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/bifrost master: Allow to check pep8 along with D000 https://review.openstack.org/570224 | 16:21 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: ouch, but I feel like that has been institutional knowledge for a long time. :( | 16:34 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: w/r/t non-public images | 16:34 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: maybe, but then we need to fail in a cleaner way + document it more obviously | 16:34 |
| TheJulia | btw, scientific folks seem SUPER interested in pure ramdisk boting | 16:34 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: seems like something we might want to make a switch/option? | 16:34 |
| TheJulia | (super interested in lots of heads nodding at there even being a patch up to do it) | 16:35 |
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| dtantsur | maybe? I haven't put much thought into it | 16:37 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: yeah, I've got a brain cell that keeps reminding me about nova/ironic/cinder interaction issues that were recently found, I think my brain wants to fix at least some of the worst aspects that were found | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | heh | 16:39 |
| TheJulia | non-public _does_ become a security feature in a way. Private can bring more risk in terms of someone booting/deploying a nefarious OS | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | right, maybe. I'm just discovering things as I work on metalsmith :D | 16:40 |
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| anupn | Good morning people :) | 16:42 |
| dtantsur | morning anupn | 16:42 |
| anupn | hey morning dtantsur :) | 16:43 |
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| TheJulia | oh, yeah, non-public is needed since we might not have admin creds and might not be able to see into tenant's custom images | 16:45 |
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| TheJulia | s/non-// | 16:45 |
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| mraineri | ajya|brb: were you looking at the JSON Schema or the CSDL for the Bios resource? | 16:52 |
| dtantsur | right | 16:52 |
| mraineri | There was a known issue with the CSDL to JSON Schema translation where action arguments were not being translated | 16:52 |
| mraineri | So, the only place to know about the arguments was from the CSDL | 16:52 |
| mraineri | Even though the parameters aren't listed in that version of JSON Schema, they really are available | 16:53 |
| etingof | mraineri, that's a great hint indeed! | 16:53 |
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| dtantsur|afk | see you tomorrow | 16:59 |
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| rpioso | ajya|brb, etingof: Please download https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP8010_2016.1.zip , extract its contents, and open DSP8010_2016.1\metadata\Bios_v1 | 17:06 |
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| ajya | mraineri, rpioso|eat thanks for clarifying | 17:28 |
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| jlvacation | TheJulia, Thanks for doing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXC34AIcxMI :) | 18:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic master: Power fault recovery: apply fault https://review.openstack.org/556758 | 18:07 |
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| rpioso | ajya: You're welcome. | 18:13 |
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| TheJulia | jlvacation: I'm afraid to even watch it :( | 18:32 |
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| jlvacation | TheJulia, heh. :) | 18:44 |
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| rpioso | ajya: Please elaborate on what you and dtantsur|afk mean by Redfish 1.3.0. | 20:54 |
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| rpioso | ajya: Is that the DMTF spec "Redfish Scalable Platforms Management API Specification", Version 1.3.0, 2 Oct 2017 -- https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/DSP0266_1.4.0.pdf ? | 20:57 |
| ajya | rpioso, in my case I meant Bios spec, https://redfish.dmtf.org/schemas/Bios.v1_0_3.json | 21:00 |
| ajya | sorry there was I typo in my previous message | 21:00 |
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| rpioso | ajya: And what about "@Redfish.Settings as they are now"? | 21:03 |
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| ajya | rpioso, similarly, the latest version, which for settings is http://redfish.dmtf.org/schemas/v1/Settings.v1_2_0.json | 21:07 |
| rpioso | ajya: Thank you for clarifying :-) | 21:09 |
| rpioso | ajya: Does that suggest older Bios and Settings implementations will not be supported? | 21:10 |
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| ajya | rpioso, we talked about it today and decided we will start with the latest versions, and will see if there is any backward compatibility - it might work with older versions out of the box. However, if it turns out that there is no backward compatibility, we will take a look at supporting older versions. | 21:14 |
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| ajya | rpiso, do you reckon there are API differences in older versions that might break? I haven't compared previous versions yet. | 21:15 |
| rpioso | ajya: mraineri informed me that the Bios versions since v1_0_0 are just errata releases which fix descriptions, terms, etc. They do not contain any functional changes. | 21:17 |
| ajya | rpioso, should be fine then | 21:20 |
| rpioso | However, Settings.v1_2_0 is functionally different from Settings.v1_0_0. It adds ApplyTime, which the iDRAC does not presently support. | 21:21 |
| rpioso | ajya: Actually, Settings.v1_1_0 added that. | 21:22 |
| ajya | rpioso, ok, will talk with dtantsur|afk about this | 21:26 |
| ajya | rpioso, might stick with 1.0.0 for now, have to check what other systems support | 21:27 |
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| rpioso | ajya: Over time, it would be best if we could support all versions. The standard may evolve, and vendor implementations have their own release cadences. 1.0.0 would be a great start, though :-) | 21:33 |
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