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| olivierb- | anupn on my side I used my own combination of virt-install + vbmc commands to achieve this. I personnaly prefer virt-install because it avoids XML and I also find it easier to use to associate volumes to instances | 05:57 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic | 09:28 |
| sambetts | o/ dtantsur | 09:28 |
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| olivierb- | good day everyone, I think I figured out what prevented the re-provisioning of a previously ironic/bifrost provisioned baremetal machine but need your advice on this | 12:46 |
| olivierb- | basically the 1st provisioning of the baremetal node works perfectly when bifrost is installed from scratch | 12:46 |
| olivierb- | and the node is provisioned with a working ubuntu xenial lvm based dib image, no pb at all for this phase 1 | 12:47 |
| olivierb- | what I do next is remove the node from ironic (maintenance set + node delete), cleanup all links/entries in /httpboot and other locations so as to have a "almost" fresh bifrost setup | 12:48 |
| olivierb- | and I then try to re-provision the same node | 12:49 |
| olivierb- | what I experience and think the issue comes from is that, because the node has a bootable HDD from its 1st successful provisioning | 12:50 |
| olivierb- | the ipxe phase sometimes fails (timout, partial read, ...) and therefore it goes back booting to the next available method => hdd => 2nd provisioning failed | 12:50 |
| olivierb- | does this makes sense ? any of you experienced similar issue ? any clue on now to deal with this ? | 12:51 |
| sambetts | olivierb-: it for this reason we recomemd that other than for development you don't run with cleaning disabled | 12:51 |
| olivierb- | hello sambetts, what do you mean by cleaning disabled ? | 12:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Collect periodic tasks from all enabled hardware interfaces https://review.openstack.org/563890 | 12:52 |
| olivierb- | the only things which I got working is cleaning the mbr of disk on machine but I do not consider this as proper way to go | 12:53 |
| olivierb- | I would expect the 2nd ipxe not failing at all | 12:53 |
| sambetts | In ironic before a node becomes available (either from tear down or a new enrollment) it must go through a cleaning phase which destories any previous infomation on the systems disk preventing it being bootable | 12:54 |
| olivierb- | may be some tuning to do in some configs ? | 12:54 |
| sambetts | or is it failing to clean the second time around? | 12:54 |
| sambetts | because of timeouts | 12:54 |
| sambetts | ? | 12:54 |
| olivierb- | timeouts from what I can see | 12:54 |
| sambetts | https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/pike/admin/troubleshooting.html#dhcp-during-pxe-or-ipxe-is-inconsistent-or-unreliable | 12:55 |
| olivierb- | it sometimes took 3 ipxe phases even in the 1st provisioning phase to get IPA loaded :-( | 12:55 |
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| olivierb- | not sure this can be avoided ? | 12:55 |
| sambetts | your network device config can cause problems with iPXE and PXE, check that troubleshooting guide for more info | 12:55 |
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| sambetts | I've had several problems with PXE either timing out and failing or taking several attempts due to spanning tree config on my switches | 12:57 |
| olivierb- | yep I thought about this too but our lab is hosted and we can not control switches, I'll still post a request to the support team to see if something can be done | 12:59 |
| olivierb- | thanks for the infos | 13:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic stable/queens: Collect periodic tasks from all enabled hardware interfaces https://review.openstack.org/564201 | 13:01 |
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| TheJulia | Good morning everyone | 13:29 |
| TheJulia | Anyone ever seen issues with virtualbmc reporting that it can't find networks when powering on domains | 13:30 |
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| etingof | TheJulia, may be something is wrong with libvirt domain config? | 13:38 |
| * etingof does not think virtualbmc knows anything about domain networking | 13:38 | |
| * etingof would try to start the domain manually with virsh to see if it works | 13:39 | |
| TheJulia | etingof: It doesnt :( It looks like it is coming directly from libvirt. | 13:41 |
| jroll | morning y'all | 13:41 |
| sambetts | o/ | 13:41 |
| etingof | TheJulia, that's what I have in mind... | 13:41 |
| etingof | jroll, \o | 13:41 |
| jroll | \o | 13:41 |
| TheJulia | etingof: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001798 | 13:42 |
| TheJulia | I think the thing to try is retry logic, luckily we have an environment where we can reproduce it readily | 13:43 |
| TheJulia | o/ jroll | 13:43 |
| jroll | morning TheJulia :) | 13:43 |
| TheJulia | etingof: supposidly one can manually start and it is intermittent without any config changes... | 13:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic master: Power fault recovery: db and rpc implementation https://review.openstack.org/555708 | 13:44 |
| TheJulia | etingof: at least intermittent when powering on a number of VMs | 13:44 |
| etingof | TheJulia, most certainly | 13:48 |
| etingof | though I am not yet convinced that's the problem | 13:48 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, it seems like it is deep inside of libvirt... After spending most of yesterday hunting, and a resulting 34 line heat patch... I need to get to the nova patch | 13:50 |
| dtantsur | morning jroll | 13:51 |
| jroll | \o dtantsur | 13:52 |
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| rpioso | Good morning, everyone | 14:32 |
| TheJulia | good morning rpioso | 14:37 |
| jroll | hey rpioso \o | 14:37 |
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| rpioso | jroll, TheJulia: :-) | 14:47 |
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| olivierb- | sambetts & others just for my information when does the cleaning is supposed to occur ? tried cleaning=true which leads to clean_nodes=true and automated_clean=true in ironic.conf, however after IPA correclty registered to Ironic, node is now in clean wait state but booted on the previously installed provisioning :-(. Strange | 14:51 |
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| sambetts | olivierb-: cleaning occurs when a new node is enroll when moving from manageable to available, or when an existing node is torn down, moving from active back to available | 14:52 |
| sambetts | olivierb-: it involves booting the ramdisk so I expect what has occured is that your node as failed to PXE to the ramdisk due to network issues, and fallen back to the HDD | 14:53 |
| sambetts | or your Ironic doesn't have good control over your server's boot device | 14:53 |
| olivierb- | deeply sorry but I must be missing something here. 1st (i)pxe boot loads IPA+associated ramdisk which seemed OK because I was under the tc_box prompt for a while before next reboot. During this time, node is in enroll state because it is unknown from ironic and just got discovered: so far so good | 14:57 |
| olivierb- | then what is supposed to happen successively ? for both manual + automatic operations ? | 14:58 |
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| sambetts | after discovery the node is added to Ironic in enrol state, you then need to move it to manageable from here you have two options, you can run manual cleaning via the API or move the node to available, if you move it to available and if automated cleaning is enabled when the node is moved from managable to available it will go through the automatic cleaning phase booting the ramdisk and wiping | 15:04 |
| sambetts | the hard disk | 15:04 |
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| rpioso | dtantsur: I read your ML email that proposes enabling automated cleaning on the undercloud. Will that require h/w type support to resolve the issues you identified in the email? | 15:12 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: nope, these are principal issues | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | of the cleaning process itself | 15:14 |
| olivierb- | sambetts ok seems to fit what I am doing because I have a small python/flask/shade agent which "automagically" moves the node from enroll to manageable (shade node_set_provision_state(uuid, 'manage') and then from there to available (share node_set_provision_state(uuid, 'provide') but may be I should use clean instead ? I am refering to https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/pike/_images/states.svg | 15:16 |
| olivierb- | does the clean occur within IPA ? | 15:17 |
| sambetts | cleaning requires IPA to boot on the node so that it can wipe the disks | 15:17 |
| olivierb- | so you mean that there is a second reboot for IPA again after 1st IPA discovery boot ? | 15:18 |
| olivierb- | if yes why isn't it done within the 1st IPA ? | 15:19 |
| sambetts | yes when cleaning is run between manageable and avaiable, that is what the clean wait state it waiting for | 15:19 |
| sambetts | discovery is a completely separate phase that just discovers that a node exists it doesn't mean that ironic is managing it, moving it from enrol to managable is you accepting it to be part of your ironic cluster | 15:21 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: I ask, because the idrac RAID interface defines a couple of manual clean steps. If those were changed to be automatic, could that be beneficial when automated cleaning is enabled? | 15:21 |
| sambetts | if we wiped the servers during the discovery phase we'd potentially wipe all servers we discover exist regardless of if they are going to be accpted into ironic or not | 15:22 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: potentially. the current discussion is around at least enabling wiping hard drives | 15:22 |
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| TheJulia | rpioso: thinking about it.... I think the proliant hwardware manager implements somethinga long those lines that wraps deleteing the raid config and recreating it | 15:27 |
| olivierb- | Ok I think I get the idea, so what is different in the second IPA boot that makes it behaves for cleaning and not for discovery ? why could'nt it receive call to do so without rebooting from ironic master once put by user in manageable state (may be because it's very lignthweight and/or only one way communication from IPA to ironic) | 15:28 |
| olivierb- | sorry for the very novice questions ;-) | 15:28 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Would hardware interface out-of-band automated clean steps that wipe RAID volumes and hard drives be redundant with those performed by IPA? | 15:28 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: well, they'd be faster, right? | 15:28 |
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| rpioso | dtantsur: If by that, you mean the out-of-band's wouldn't require PXE booting the server. | 15:30 |
| sambetts | olivierb-: discovery is run by ironic-inspector not by ironic itself, in fact ironic knows nothing about discovery, it doesn't even know that IPA is already booted on the server as far as its aware its just turned on so it reconfigures the node and PXE boots it itself | 15:30 |
| olivierb- | ok makes perfect sense | 15:31 |
| olivierb- | thx | 15:31 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: I don't know if the wiping itself would be any faster. I hope it would be :) | 15:31 |
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| rpioso | TheJulia: Are you referring to in-band stuff? | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | rpioso: yes, but I think they just wrap the two clean steps | 15:32 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: There's no in-band hardware manager for the iDRAC that I'm aware of. I'm focused on out-of-band. | 15:33 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: Thank you, though, for pointing that possibility out. Options are good :) | 15:35 |
| toabctl | dtantsur, re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560845/ - thanks for the review. who else could I ask for another +2? | 15:35 |
| patchbot | patch 560845 - ironic (stable/pike) - Remove too large configdrive for handling error | 15:35 |
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| TheJulia | rpioso: I think it would then be a cleanstep on the out of band interface, since both get concatonated together to create the list of things to do | 15:36 |
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| TheJulia | anyway, stepping away for coffee and short brain break before resuming | 15:37 |
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| rpioso | dtantsur: Can the operator pick and choose which clean steps to execute during automated cleaning? That would alleviate my concern about having two clean steps that both wipe RAID volumes and/or hard drives, one out-of-band and the other in IPA. | 15:40 |
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| dtantsur | rpioso: unrelated: does Dell support https://redfish.dmtf.org/schemas/VirtualMedia.v1_2_0.json | 15:43 |
| dtantsur | ? | 15:43 |
| * dtantsur is on a meeting | 15:43 | |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Checking ... | 15:43 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning Ironic'ers :) | 15:46 |
| rpioso | Good morning, NobodyCam :) | 15:50 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning rpioso :) | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sushy-tools master: Add unit tests for emulator https://review.openstack.org/554326 | 15:59 |
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| dtantsur | morning NobodyCam | 16:01 |
| NobodyCam | Morning dtantsur :) | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: answering your question: for some clean steps it's possible to change the priority via ironic.conf. but we don't have a consistent way of doing it. | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | there was a spec for that, but it went nowhere | 16:02 |
| etingof | TheJulia, dtantsur while we are at sushy-tools, how about other sushy-tools patches? ;-) -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523879/ | 16:02 |
| patchbot | patch 523879 - sushy-tools - OpenStack cloud driver added | 16:02 |
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| toabctl | etingof, could you have another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560845/ please? | 16:04 |
| patchbot | patch 560845 - ironic (stable/pike) - Remove too large configdrive for handling error | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | etingof: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538338/ could use your review | 16:05 |
| patchbot | patch 538338 - sushy-tools - Support EthernetInterface resource in the emulator | 16:05 |
| etingof | actually, there are a couple of teeny-tiny cuties to check out in the blink of an eye -- https://review.openstack.org/559388 & https://review.openstack.org/559360 | 16:06 |
| patchbot | patch 559388 - sushy-tools - adds --interface cli option | 16:06 |
| patchbot | patch 559360 - sushy-tools - improves comments in the code | 16:06 |
| etingof | dtantsur, ha, I am not in the reviewers so I missed it | 16:06 |
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| etingof | toabctl, lgtm | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack/bifrost master: Fix cross project jobs https://review.openstack.org/564279 | 16:38 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur, TheJulia: when Ironic is running in noauth mode what role does ironic match policy against?? | 17:14 |
| jroll | heh, that's a good question | 17:15 |
| TheJulia | that is | 17:16 |
| TheJulia | i feel like policy validation doesn't take place in noauth mode (which is a valid argument for another auth mode too...), but otherwise it would end up effectively being baremetal admin because we don't restrict in noauth mode as far as I remember | 17:17 |
| jroll | it would have to not take place, the roles come from the token | 17:18 |
| jroll | you can't do policy without auth, it doesn't make sense :) | 17:18 |
| sambetts | the reason I'm looking is because I want to enable "show_instance_secrets" in my bifrost env but wasn't sure if I could lock it down to only requests from certain people/locations | 17:19 |
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| TheJulia | sambetts: yeah, at that point your talking about a new auth model which I would support | 17:21 |
| TheJulia | speaking of which, I thought up a case for another role the other day, I just haven't written it down | 17:21 |
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| TheJulia | Anyone going to vancouver interested in doing some social gathering where we don't talk about work or technology? I'm feeling like a movie night would be fun | 17:23 |
| sambetts | yeah I'd like to be able to say only allow this data to be shown from requests on this subnet, but not to anyone else | 17:23 |
| sambetts | obviously not the most secure but it hides the info unless someone is being nasty and spoofing | 17:24 |
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| TheJulia | yeah | 17:27 |
| TheJulia | Well, there are a few other sorts of attacks that could be leveraged easily without auth, but still | 17:28 |
| sambetts | yeah the scenario I want to enable is basically show all the things to my internal services, but not to the public API | 17:28 |
| sambetts | I guess I could spin up two APIs | 17:29 |
| sambetts | with different policy | 17:29 |
| sambetts | one internal and one external | 17:29 |
| TheJulia | we've talked in the past about putting a switch into basically allow something along those lines | 17:29 |
| sambetts | actually two API services might be more secure because I can lock down the listening interface | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 17:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/queens: Stop using slave_scripts/install-distro-packages.sh https://review.openstack.org/564298 | 17:32 |
| TheJulia | you could also do things like front them with basic auth with apache or nginx and proxy to the backend | 17:32 |
| sambetts | that wouldn't let me have different policy though | 17:33 |
| sambetts | or do you mean have 2 API services like /barematal and /baremetal-admin | 17:33 |
| sambetts | where baremetal-admin has basic auth | 17:33 |
| TheJulia | sambetts: well, it truly depends on how you do it, but yeah | 17:33 |
| sambetts | hmm I like that idea | 17:33 |
| TheJulia | nothing prevents proxying to two different backends | 17:34 |
| TheJulia | and you actually can do all sorts of controls on properties about the requestor too | 17:34 |
| sambetts | yeah with WSGI params too | 17:35 |
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| TheJulia | yup | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | All sorts of fun things :) | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | no guarantee the client library will handle it properly fwiw | 17:37 |
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| sambetts | no, thats a good point, probably an internal noauthed API services that can only be accessed internal will be easier to implement then | 17:40 |
| sambetts | for now anyway | 17:40 |
| sambetts | thanks for the food for thought! | 17:42 |
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| sambetts | night all o/ | 17:43 |
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| NobodyCam | Night sambetts|afk | 17:43 |
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| dtantsur|afk | o/ | 17:43 |
| NobodyCam | night dtantsur|afk :) | 17:43 |
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| mgagne | is there a way to mark an ironic-conductor as in "maintenance" ? or will Ironic transfert ownership of a node to any conductor if one is marked as offline? | 19:07 |
| mgagne | ok, looks like it's automated on startup/shutdown: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic/ReleaseNotes/Icehouse | 19:11 |
| rloo | mgagne: nope, no concept of maintenance for conductors. latter will happen. as you found out :) | 19:12 |
| mgagne | tyvm for the confirmation =) | 19:12 |
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| rloo | mgagne: and not 'any conductor' but 'any conductor that can handle the node's driver/hw type' | 19:12 |
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| mgagne | right, fortunately ours are identical in their configs =) | 19:13 |
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| rloo | mgagne: there is an rfe/spec about disabling/enabling conductors. so future... | 19:13 |
| rloo | mgagne: :) | 19:13 |
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| mgagne | that would be a good idea I guess, at least for debug purpose if you can also list/show which one manages which nodes | 19:14 |
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| rloo | mgagne: i can't recall if the proposed thing will show managed nodes but i think with some existing api now, you can see which conductors support which drivers/hw types | 19:15 |
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| rloo | mgagne: the driver list api: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/baremetal/#list-drivers | 19:16 |
| mgagne | ironic driver-list for people still using ironicclient | 19:16 |
| mgagne | "openstack baremetal driver list" otherwise. cool stuff =) | 19:17 |
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