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| pas-ha | morning ironic | 08:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed openstack/virtualbmc master: multiprocess server, ZMQ-based management cli tool https://review.openstack.org/488874 | 08:07 |
| etingof | o/ | 08:08 |
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| pas-ha | dtantsur|afk: please see my last comments to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553736 , I think we'll miss some useful tests with this change | 08:22 |
| patchbot | patch 553736 - ironic - Gate: run ironic tests in the regular multinode job | 08:22 |
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| vdrok | good morning ironic! | 10:51 |
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| jroll | morning everyone | 12:12 |
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| vdrok | good morning jroll ! | 12:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-specs master: Follow up of inspect wait state spec https://review.openstack.org/553822 | 13:06 |
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| TheJulia | good morning everyone | 13:33 |
| etingof | o/ | 13:33 |
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| rloo | Happy first-day-of-spring morning yee fine folks in ironic-land. That means you, TheJulia, etingof and everyone else! | 13:45 |
| etingof | happy Equinox indeed! ;) | 13:46 |
| rloo | looks like the gate is happy today too... | 13:47 |
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| TheJulia | NobodyCam: When you get a chance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553036/ | 13:52 |
| patchbot | patch 553036 - bifrost - Define ironic_db_password default | 13:52 |
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| rloo | scratch that; i suspect it is still broken for pike; i'll update whiteboard | 13:56 |
| yolanda | hi TheJulia , rloo , that's the ordered list for ironic patches about bios: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-bios-ordered-patches | 14:00 |
| rloo | thx yolanda. would you mind updating the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard with it? | 14:00 |
| rloo | yolanda: there's a section there for bios. | 14:00 |
| rloo | yolanda: L177 | 14:01 |
| yolanda | sure | 14:02 |
| rloo | yolanda: are they all ready to be reviewed, or are you still working/coding? | 14:02 |
| rloo | yolanda: please indicate status next to them so people know | 14:02 |
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| yolanda | they are ready | 14:03 |
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| rloo | thx yolanda! | 14:10 |
| yolanda | you're welcome | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akira Yoshiyama proposed openstack/virtualbmc master: Add Serial-over-LAN (SOL) support https://review.openstack.org/482853 | 14:34 |
| NobodyCam | TheJulia: is there a bug to track the followup on 553036? | 14:36 |
| NobodyCam | and Good Morning Ironic'ers | 14:37 |
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| TheJulia | NobodyCam: enotime | 14:40 |
| NobodyCam | :p | 14:40 |
| TheJulia | NobodyCam: and we're migrating to storyboard later this week, so it changes | 14:41 |
| NobodyCam | and Good Morning | 14:41 |
| vdrok | good morning TheJulia rloo and NobodyCam ! | 14:45 |
| rloo | good morning NobodyCam and vdrok! | 14:46 |
| NobodyCam | Good morning vdrok and rloo :) | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lenny Verkhovsky proposed openstack/ironic master: Infiniband Port Configuration update[1] https://review.openstack.org/553400 | 14:56 |
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| dtantsur | hi all | 15:00 |
| dtantsur | pas-ha: thanks, yep, I'll update the regex | 15:01 |
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| rloo | hi dtantsur. oh... dtantsur, TheJulia, jroll: did we still want to talk about nova-ironic-driver & REST API? | 15:03 |
| rloo | I know that TheJulia and jroll discussed it yesterday | 15:03 |
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| jroll | the conclusion was julia was going to investigate adding per-call microversioning to ironicclient and using that today | 15:04 |
| * jroll doesn't have anything to add today | 15:05 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost master: Define ironic_db_password default https://review.openstack.org/553036 | 15:07 |
| * dtantsur is fine with the conclusion | 15:09 | |
| rloo | jroll: thx. per-call microversioning in client seems like a win, since it'll be useful for others? | 15:09 |
| jroll | rloo: I agree | 15:09 |
| TheJulia | It is a compromise to avoid bulk test re-writing. On a plus side, those tests can eventually be rewritten still | 15:09 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: what is the 'right' solution? | 15:10 |
| rloo | TheJulia: or 'ideal' maybe is what i mean | 15:10 |
| rloo | TheJulia: 'magic' isn't an answer | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | There is no solution that will bring universal happiness | 15:10 |
| rloo | hmm, spoken like a politician. err PTL. | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | I've had to learn fast | 15:10 |
| rloo | quick learner :D | 15:11 |
| jroll | well, I don't think anyone is against the pure rest thing. just gotta be realistic about what we can get done in one cycle. | 15:11 |
| TheJulia | the problem with the rest thing it the way the tests are written, it will be a massive patch | 15:11 |
| TheJulia | now, if they are willing to just trust and merge for us and we keep it to unit tests... that is different, but we're likely talking in excess of 4k lines | 15:11 |
| rloo | ok, seems like a win to make the change to the client code. others can use it, and we don't have to muck with the tests. | 15:12 |
| rloo | would be good to get some 'confirmation' that other openstack services are going in this direction. is it worth checking with api-sig, or maybe this is a bit outside what they do. | 15:12 |
| rloo | not that they are unopinionated :) | 15:13 |
| TheJulia | The impression I got from some discussions in dublin was more rest based, our tests are just not in great shape in nova | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | should I point folks to my proposed guideline? :) | 15:14 |
| rloo | did we vote for Stein release or is jroll just hoping... ? | 15:14 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: and the meeting notes where the consensus was to get rid of the client libraries? | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I haven't been a part of such consensus | 15:15 |
| rloo | huh? get rid of client libraries? | 15:15 |
| jroll | rloo: heh, I am just using it as a placeholder | 15:15 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, there has been chatter about that too | 15:15 |
| rloo | jroll: heh. i voted for stein... thought maybe i won for once! | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | what we ended up talking about is that our client libraries need to decide: are they just language bindings or full-featured SDKs | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | if the former, make them as tiny as possible (and here's where people might want to just use keystoneauth instead) | 15:16 |
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| dtantsur | if the latter, make them less low-level by NOT exposing things like microversions so shamelessly | 15:16 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ah. so, what's wrong with two different client libraries! and the universe will be happy :D | 15:16 |
| dtantsur | heh | 15:17 |
| dtantsur | we only have very short notes at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-ptg-rocky unfortunately | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | rloo: see line about no one thing making everyone happy :) | 15:17 |
| dtantsur | and ironicclient is much closer to a language binding right now, we should just set the expectations right | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | although we also have a lot of logic under the hood to support things like versioning | 15:18 |
| rloo | TheJulia: that's ok. what <fill in the blank> will make everyone happy? holidays maybe... | 15:18 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 15:18 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: right, this is where we went the full SDK way all of a suddent | 15:18 |
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| dtantsur | well, because we realized that using microversions is hard.. | 15:18 |
| TheJulia | not just hard, but prior design decisions complicate future directions | 15:19 |
| rloo | ain't that the truth... | 15:19 |
| dtantsur | yep | 15:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-inspector stable/queens: Switch documentation to hardware types https://review.openstack.org/554586 | 15:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Gate: run ironic tests in the regular multinode job https://review.openstack.org/553736 | 15:26 |
| dtantsur | pas-ha: let's try this ^^^ | 15:26 |
| * TheJulia gets out the popcorn | 15:30 | |
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| dtantsur | folks, we need moar reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552817/ it's relatively simple | 15:39 |
| patchbot | patch 552817 - sushy - Mark Systems/Managers/SessionService optional | 15:39 |
| TheJulia | I just +2'ed it, it was already in my review window | 15:40 |
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| rloo | johnthetubaguy: if you're around, I don't know what you mean by: 'I like the idea of the API being able to say if the IPA ramdisk image copy is going to happen (or has happened) or isn't relevant for that type of build" (wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549493/) | 16:12 |
| patchbot | patch 549493 - ironic-specs - Deployment steps framework | 16:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | rloo: I was thinking about boot from volume, it would be nice to know which bits of the build process are skipped | 16:12 |
| rloo | johnthetubaguy: oh, do you mean via the driver_internal_info['deploy_steps'] ? | 16:12 |
| rloo | johnthetubaguy: so if ^^, you can see the list of deploy steps. it won't explicitly tell you which ones are not being done. | 16:13 |
| rloo | johnthetubaguy: were you thinking of a fancier API? | 16:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | rloo: yeah, I was thinking deploy_steps would be missing the ipa_ramdisk pull down image from glance step? | 16:20 |
| rloo | johnthetubaguy: got it. yup, if you knew about that deploy step, you'd know it wasn't being done :) | 16:21 |
| rloo | johnthetubaguy: in the future, if we ever do an API like 'get-avail-deploy-steps', you could do a diff to see what is avail vs what is actually being done. but don't hold your breath just yet. | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Deployment steps framework https://review.openstack.org/549493 | 16:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | rloo: cool, yeah, that bit would be extra | 16:30 |
| rloo | johnthetubaguy: :) | 16:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/virtualbmc master: multiprocess server, ZMQ-based management cli tool https://review.openstack.org/488874 | 16:42 |
| TheJulia | etingof: ^^^ preemtive rebase since it was about to merge conflict | 16:42 |
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| etingof | TheJulia, so it's rebased on master by now | 16:43 |
| TheJulia | a requirement changes the cliff line in it reversing the order | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic stable/pike: Change pxe dhcp options name to codes. https://review.openstack.org/525248 | 16:47 |
| etingof | TheJulia, yep, thanks! not many people have guts to review it, apparently... ;) | 16:47 |
| jroll | I just can't bring myself to review it further than "why?" | 16:48 |
| jroll | (to be quite honest) | 16:48 |
| * rloo doesn't even want to know what you're all talking about :D | 16:48 | |
| jroll | etingof: wait, does this add a hard dependency on zmq? | 16:48 |
| etingof | jroll, yes, the client-server communication is now being done through zmq | 16:49 |
| jroll | that seems... overkill | 16:49 |
| * jroll suspects people are now using this in production, this makes me sad | 16:50 | |
| etingof | well, in gerrit one could dig up an opposite opinion ;-) | 16:51 |
| etingof | dtantsur, ^ | 16:51 |
| etingof | jroll, previous take on this has been based on python multiprocessing for IPC | 16:51 |
| jroll | I realize I can leave a review, I guess I thought it might be worth discussing the use cases quickly before I do so | 16:52 |
| * jroll realizes zmq doesn't require a central broker, interesting | 16:52 | |
| * etingof hmm, either jroll is brave or the patch is not reasonably scary yet | 16:53 | |
| etingof | zmq is cool indeed | 16:53 |
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| jroll | don't worry, I still haven't read the code :P | 16:55 |
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| jroll | I just don't see the point ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 16:56 |
| etingof | jroll, check out the discussion on gerrit | 16:57 |
| TheJulia | etingof: looks fairly strait forward, I have two concerns thus far, but still reviewing | 16:58 |
| jroll | etingof: that doesn't help, I think the premise is broken | 16:58 |
| jroll | it's fine, I won't block it, I just don't think the use case is one we should support :) | 16:59 |
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| etingof | jroll, the original premise I think was that zmq moves the IPC complexities away from the app | 17:00 |
| etingof | jroll, the argument can be knocked down though | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | jroll: I asked for zmq, because I did not want custom low-level networking code there, to be honest | 17:02 |
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| dtantsur | I have quite some argument with zmq, and it does tend to hide a lot of unpleasant details | 17:02 |
| etingof | the good new is that we now have both implementations to choose from ;) | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | I'm open to other networking libraries | 17:02 |
| jroll | I can live with zmq, I'm talking about the need for managing virtualbmc, having it live across reboots, etc | 17:02 |
| * dtantsur prepares a loooong rant | 17:02 | |
| jroll | this feels like trying to make this production ready, which implies people using it for production | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | jroll: *some people* use vbmc in production | 17:03 |
| * dtantsur cough-cough | 17:03 | |
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| jroll | I don't think that's something we should make an effort to support | 17:03 |
| * etingof meanwhile hopes not to become an expert in Python IPC libs | 17:03 | |
| dtantsur | jroll: well, to be entirely true, the current vbmc is quite fragile, and has problems even with long-running test environments | 17:03 |
| etingof | not anymore! ^^ | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | we have a bug saying "vbmc sometimes just dies" or something like that | 17:04 |
| etingof | (once we merge) | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | since it's not a daemon, it's hard even to track why and when it died, to say nothing about restart | 17:04 |
| jroll | ok, that's more fair | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | and e.g. my testing environments tend to live for several weeks, so not repairing vbmc is a benefit for me | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | still, my comment re production holds :( (yes, I know, I know..) | 17:05 |
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| jroll | well, it isn't the ssh driver :) | 17:05 |
| jroll | so, like I said, I won't block it, I'm not sure I can review it sanely | 17:06 |
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| TheJulia | etingof: reviewed | 17:08 |
| etingof | thanks! | 17:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-inspector master: test_failure_to_write fails with root user https://review.openstack.org/548884 | 17:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/virtualbmc master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/552411 | 17:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Rework Bare Metal service overview in the install guide https://review.openstack.org/554284 | 17:36 |
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| TheJulia | rpioso|afk: w/r/t dell 3rd party ci, looks like you guys still have a job running a classic driver, you may want to update that. It will likely may dtantsur's day. :) | 17:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Gate: run ironic tests in the regular multinode job https://review.openstack.org/553736 | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-specs master: Remove unnecessary indents https://review.openstack.org/554406 | 17:50 |
| rpioso|afk | TheJulia: I’ll check with rajinir. Thanks for offering us an opportunity to make dtantsur’s day :) | 17:51 |
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| TheJulia | rpioso|afk: rajinir: also looking at that classic driver job, looks like it is only allowing for 600 seconds for the node build which may not be enough. It might be a good idea to check your CI job timeouts and extend them a little. :\ It might clean up the failure rate which seems higher for the classic driver run. | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Prevent overwriting of last_error on cleaning failures https://review.openstack.org/546656 | 18:05 |
| dtantsur | hmm, the HPE CI started reporting "merge failed" on seemingly valid patches | 18:08 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: like with-in the last hour or two? | 18:12 |
| dtantsur | yep | 18:12 |
| TheJulia | ugh | 18:12 |
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| sambetts | Night all o/ | 18:13 |
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| TheJulia | Speaking of HPE, they have a quick spec update at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530838/4 that seems like a quick review | 18:13 |
| patchbot | patch 530838 - ironic-specs - Update OOB RAID for iLO5 based HPE Proliant Servers | 18:13 |
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| dtantsur | I'm a bit exhausted after a 15 minutes doctor visit ended up taking 2 hours | 18:14 |
| dtantsur | but will try to get to it tomorrow | 18:14 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: understood, been there as well :( | 18:15 |
| TheJulia | Have a wonderful evening | 18:15 |
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| dtantsur | you too | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Infiniband Port Configuration update[1] https://review.openstack.org/553400 | 18:17 |
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| rajinir | TheJuloa: By classic driver do you mean the pxe_drac? | 20:26 |
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| rloo | rajinir: yes, I think that's what TheJulia meant. classic drivers: see the table: https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/admin/upgrade-to-hardware-types.html | 21:17 |
| TheJulia | rajinir: you guys happen to run a pxe_ipmitool job | 21:17 |
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| rpioso|afk | rloo, TheJulia: Thank you! | 23:30 |
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