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| pas-ha | morning ironic :) | 07:59 |
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| karimb | dtantsur is copying conf values in the driver info a bad practice then ? | 09:36 |
| dtantsur | karimb: sometimes we allow conf values as defaults for driver_info. so driver_info always has priority. | 09:36 |
| dtantsur | in this case it does make sense (just please handle the naming difference) | 09:36 |
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| makowals | Hello ironic | 10:06 |
| makowals | Is anyone in here able to help me with the basic configuration of the console over shell-in-a-box? | 10:07 |
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| dtantsur | I don't have experience with it, to be honest. I assume you have checked the docs already? | 10:07 |
| makowals | I have followed the docs, my server tells me SOL is active, but the webconsole doesn't seem to work | 10:07 |
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| makowals | The problem seems to be somewhere in between the shellinabox and my server, not really ironic and shellinabox | 10:08 |
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| milan_ | morning Ironic! :) | 10:13 |
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| dtantsur | hey milan_ | 10:14 |
| milan_ | #pixiesay -mflexing I hope I'm online ;) | 10:14 |
| milan_ | morning dtantsur! :) | 10:14 |
| milan_ | dtantsur, you really need to.... | 10:14 |
| milan_ | ...reboot pixie :P | 10:14 |
| * dtantsur docker restart | 10:14 | |
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| dtantsur | #pixiesay -mflexing I'm back! | 10:15 |
| PixieBoots | ᕙʕ⇀ᴥ⇀ʔᕗ: I'm back! | 10:15 |
| milan_ | nice :D | 10:16 |
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| milan_ | aarefiev, dtantsur, folks, how about concluding on the dnsmasq filter review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466448/ | 10:57 |
| patchbot | patch 466448 - ironic-inspector - Introducing a dnsmasq PXE filter driver | 10:57 |
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| gmonteiro | Good morning dtantsur, milan_ and everyone o/ | 11:04 |
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| milan_ | morning gmonteiro! :) | 11:25 |
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| nicodemos | morning | 12:02 |
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| fellypefca | Good morning, Ironic :) | 12:15 |
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| milan_ | morning fellypefca, nicodemos! :) | 12:59 |
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| fellypefca | milan_ :) | 13:01 |
| fellypefca | Is there any news on ironic grenade-multinode-multitenant? | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/ironic stable/ocata: Fix keystone.py 'get_service_url' method parameter https://review.openstack.org/519345 | 13:18 |
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| karimb | dtantsur|bbl addressed as per your review, thanks btw | 13:29 |
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| dtantsur | np, will check soon | 14:09 |
| dtantsur | fellypefca: I think the networking-generic-switch problem was fixed, but not sure | 14:09 |
| fellypefca | dtantsur I just checked and it's ok. Thanks! | 14:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-inspector master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/519102 | 14:35 |
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| * TheJulia gets out a top hat that says zombie, and puts it on | 15:05 | |
| TheJulia | Good Morning Everyone! | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic master: DNM refactor zuul job definitions https://review.openstack.org/519333 | 15:05 |
| dtantsur | morning TheJulia! how is your post-forum recovery? | 15:05 |
| pas-ha | morning TheJulia :) | 15:06 |
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| rloo | Hello and good morning ironic'ers dtantsur, pas-ha, zombie TheJulia | 15:06 |
| dtantsur | morning rloo | 15:06 |
| pas-ha | morning rloo | 15:06 |
| * dtantsur sees a lot of Forum videos on youtube, but cannot find ironic stuff | 15:06 | |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: Well, My body seemed to like that time zone once adjusted, and it doesn't really want to settle back into a US time zone yet. :( Hopefully this will be the last day | 15:07 |
| dtantsur | ugh | 15:07 |
| TheJulia | None of the forum sessions were really recorded. I think all of the talks were recorded | 15:08 |
| rloo | does anyone have details about the neutron change that broke our gate? cuz for stable/ocata, I see "ImportError: No module named definitions" from lib/neutron-legacy:_configure_neutron_common (http://logs.openstack.org/45/519345/1/check/ironic-grenade-dsvm/e6dde86/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz) | 15:08 |
| rloo | not sure if I should recheck... | 15:08 |
| TheJulia | The most awesome thing i the jump of operators using ironic in deployments went from 9 to 20 % according the the user survey. Also one of the forum sessions, was literally half operators | 15:09 |
| rloo | TheJulia: with great things to say about ironic? :) | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | 20% \o/ | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | rloo: some happiness, some gripes, some feedback or needs/wants where rackspace's model worked, but doesn't work for larger/more diverse fleets | 15:10 |
| * dtantsur is curious | 15:11 | |
| TheJulia | working on a summary, hopefully will be done today | 15:12 |
| TheJulia | Expense report things this morning | 15:12 |
| dtantsur | oh, I could not find https://www.openstack.org/videos/summits/sydney-2017 now I can search for videos \o/ | 15:12 |
| rloo | TheJulia: did anyone ask/mention that it would be great to get this feedback outside/anytime of forum. and/or maybe they have and we aren't listening?... | 15:12 |
| rloo | TheJulia: thx for the summary. i will wait :) | 15:12 |
| TheJulia | rloo: so the feedback loops are definitely broken, and there was a lot of unhappiness with the PWG and how it handled things. Seems people tried other avenues, and ironic is also a little.... unique since we are so close to the iron | 15:13 |
| rloo | TheJulia: ok, worth discussing. later. when you feel like it :) | 15:14 |
| TheJulia | On a plus side, many private openstack clouds were talked about, Although mark collier didn't magically appear with 100k core club stickers for nobodycam | 15:14 |
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| milan_ | morning rloo, TheJulia! :) | 15:17 |
| rloo | TheJulia: heh | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | rloo: https://twitter.com/ashinclouds/status/927657999912509440 | 15:17 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i was going to look at that last week and forgot. on my list to view this week! | 15:17 |
| rloo | hi milan_ | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | NobodyCam: Thank you for being so active in the discussions! | 15:18 |
| dtantsur | 14.5k ironic nodes, WOWwowWOWwowWOWwow | 15:19 |
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| NobodyCam | hehehehe | 15:25 |
| TheJulia | They need geo-diversity, and realistically there are a pile of reasons why we need it moving forward including physnet awareness, and eventually affinity/anti-affinity needs since the tl;dr from operators is "we're not going to agree on any singular way to use traits for such scheduling". Also the operators seem to be more about us meeting the 80% of the uses and then refining as time goes on. Not trying | 15:25 |
| TheJulia | to go to the end "this would be perfect/ideal" from a programming standpoint. At least that was my take away from some of the discussion | 15:25 |
| NobodyCam | Good morning Ironic'ers | 15:25 |
| TheJulia | good morning NobodyCam | 15:26 |
| NobodyCam | :) morning TheJulia :) | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | also, TONS of interest in misusing BFV in new and exciting ways | 15:27 |
| NobodyCam | :p | 15:27 |
| TheJulia | and I mean... TONS | 15:27 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: and you mean s/misusing/creatively using/ :D | 15:28 |
| TheJulia | Well, misusing from original intent of use. My summary has a few examples | 15:29 |
| rloo | TheJulia: I don't think we've ever done anything in one go, that is more than 80% of use cases :) | 15:29 |
| TheJulia | varying perspectives I guess | 15:33 |
| * TheJulia realizes she hasn't looked at a calendar in nearly a week. | 15:33 | |
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| TheJulia | rloo: one example for resource classes "give us the ability just to assert a default from the config file upon node discovery, differences in many cases will be the rare one-offs" | 15:45 |
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| * NobodyCam see TheJulia's comment and realizes his out look has also been closed for about a week. :) | 15:46 | |
| TheJulia | nobodycam's example of a one off was "A vp is standing behind me wondering when it is going to be done being installed | 15:46 |
| NobodyCam | :p | 15:46 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: I think I am lost. what does installing have to do with our coding? | 15:47 |
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| TheJulia | installing a specific piece of hardware | 15:47 |
| TheJulia | into an existing infrastucture | 15:47 |
| rloo | TheJulia: do you mean, 'hooking it in so that it can be installed?' | 15:48 |
| rloo | TheJulia: sorry, not sure I understand | 15:48 |
| dtantsur | morning NobodyCam | 15:48 |
| NobodyCam | Morning dtantsur :) | 15:48 |
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| TheJulia | rloo: no, more like "I have a auto discovery system, for the vast majority of my nodes, a single default resource class is exactly what I need, I don't need anything fancy. For the fancy nodes, I'll have a VP standing behind me wondering when the hardware is done being installed into the datacenter and can be used because it is that different than the rest of my fleet." | 15:53 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i was totally clueless then. Thx for explaining! | 15:54 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: so ah, that ^^ is more a nova thing, right? | 15:55 |
| TheJulia | No, it is us since we are the source of truth | 15:55 |
| * dtantsur has a warm feeling from knowing that ironic-inspector is used in paypal ^_^ | 15:56 | |
| rloo | TheJulia: what is it that we need to do in ironic to support ^^? i thought it was all done. | 15:56 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: introspection rules can do it | 15:56 |
| dtantsur | I have a task in my TODO list to provide an example in our docs specifically for this case | 15:56 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I think the conundrum is, they don't want to touch rules, they want a default option | 15:56 |
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| dtantsur | it can be done too, though I'd like people to use rules more | 15:57 |
| dtantsur | they're cool | 15:57 |
| TheJulia | heh | 15:57 |
| rloo | TheJulia, dtantsur: yeah, it can be done, we love adding options, but i don't recall anyone asking for it :-( | 15:57 |
| TheJulia | It makes sense for the remaining 10-20% of cases in varying environments, but 20+ different types of hardware entering a datacenter per year, I can't imagine it would be fun maintaining either. | 15:57 |
| rloo | TheJulia: probably best to have a meeting or something after your write-up, to go over/see what we can do. | 15:58 |
| dtantsur | virtual midcycle? ;) | 15:59 |
| TheJulia | perhaps :) | 16:00 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i was actually wondering when we might want one, am thinking we ought to have one before mid of Dec. | 16:02 |
| rloo | dtantsur: or maybe more than one meet up | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | we can have as many as we want | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | I'd avoid mid-December, as people may start having vacations | 16:03 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yeah, that's why before mid -dec. maybe end of nov. | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | yep | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | I can create a doodle, as soon as I finish listening to NobodyCam :) | 16:04 |
| NobodyCam | *Blush* | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam: very interesting talk; a lot of stuff going on around nodes enrolling/managing :) | 16:04 |
| rloo | dtantsur: heh. us thanksgiving is coming up too. | 16:05 |
| dtantsur | when is it? | 16:05 |
| TheJulia | US folks start becoming hard to pin down after thanksgiving | 16:05 |
| TheJulia | last thursday in November | 16:05 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i am worried about stuff at spec level, traits, bios | 16:05 |
| NobodyCam | oh ya, Sam and I talked after and are going to get together when he's back! | 16:05 |
| rloo | dtantsur, TheJulia: actually, Nov 23. Soon! | 16:06 |
| dtantsur | yep | 16:06 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam: we had plans to implement many things you guys are using. but they remained plans (except for ironic-inspector) | 16:06 |
| TheJulia | rloo: eek :( | 16:07 |
| * rloo thinks TheJulia has to go out and shoot a turkey soon | 16:07 | |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam: "adding system health" +++ | 16:07 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: It might be best to also implement as complimentary components instead of being built into existing things. | 16:07 |
| dtantsur | yeah | 16:08 |
| dtantsur | we should feel easier with experimenting with new services/tools | 16:08 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: and dhcp based bmc discovery :0 | 16:08 |
| dtantsur | it's much easier to start now than when we started ironic-inspector | 16:08 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam: hah, Sam's dream, yeah :) | 16:08 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: ++++ | 16:08 |
| NobodyCam | +++ :) | 16:09 |
| dtantsur | I know that Redfish reports Health for a lot of things | 16:09 |
| dtantsur | I wonder how it maps into this discussion | 16:09 |
| rloo | dtantsur, pas-ha: anyone know why this is tagged as an rfe? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1657077 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657077 in Ironic "Deploying partition image with localboot needs to be tested in the CI" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Vasyl Saienko (vsaienko) | 16:09 |
| dtantsur | rloo: no idea at all | 16:10 |
| NobodyCam | Ugh So many unread emails! :p | 16:11 |
| rloo | dtantsur: #@#$%. ok, i'll take care of it :) | 16:11 |
| pas-ha | not an rfe surely, does not require any changes to ironic code itself | 16:11 |
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| pas-ha | Vasyl is trying it out currently | 16:12 |
| rloo | pas-ha: yeah, i just removed it :) | 16:12 |
| pas-ha | rloo: +1 | 16:12 |
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| * TheJulia greatly dislikes expense reports | 16:22 | |
| NobodyCam | TheJulia: +++ | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, rloo and everyone: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-queens-midcycle | 16:29 |
| jlvillal | rloo, Regarding: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518622/3/zuul.d/legacy-ironic-lib-jobs.yaml@3 | 16:31 |
| patchbot | patch 518622 - ironic-lib - zuul: Centralize irrelevant-files in legacy-ironic... | 16:31 |
| jlvillal | rloo, So you want a comment about something that isn't there? | 16:32 |
| rloo | jlvillal: yes, cuz otherwise, someone might submit a patch to change it to use ironic.whatever. | 16:32 |
| rloo | jlvillal: i'm tired of trying to review and look at why something was done before. if we decide to do something, let's mention it. | 16:32 |
| jlvillal | rloo, Okay | 16:32 |
| rloo | jlvillal: thx! | 16:33 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, Was there a change in our guidance for approving "requirements.txt" proposal bot patches? | 16:33 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, Can we now approve with just a single reviewer? | 16:33 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: I think we have always been allowed to quick-approve it | 16:33 |
| dtantsur | I mean, there is no review beyond 1. is it sane? 2. does it pass the CI | 16:33 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, Ok. I thought it required two. Thanks. | 16:34 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: this is tagged as rfe. does it need a spec? inspector side is already done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1554243 | 16:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1554243 in Ironic "[RFE] In-band introspection of diskless nodes" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 16:36 |
| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic-lib master: zuul: Centralize irrelevant-files in legacy-ironic-lib-dsvm-base https://review.openstack.org/518622 | 16:37 |
| jlvillal | rloo, dtantsur ^^^ Would be good to get that in before we land any proposal bot patches | 16:37 |
| rloo | jlvillal: could you put on your todo list, to look into pyghmi? | 16:38 |
| jlvillal | rloo, I've never ever looked at pyghmi ;) | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: to be honest, I can no longer find a link to this guideline.. I'm pretty sure there was something about trivial changes | 16:39 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, Maybe can update the wiki page we have about core reviewers? | 16:39 |
| rloo | jlvillal: i mean, look into why we have that as a project requirement. | 16:39 |
| rloo | jlvillal: never mind, i will. | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: which exactly do you have in mind? | 16:39 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, I thought we had a wiki page about Ironic core reviewers... | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: this is the page I cannot find | 16:40 |
| rloo | we do have wiki, sec | 16:40 |
| jlvillal | rloo, Ah. I thought you meant to go check out their zuul.d/ direcotry | 16:40 |
| rloo | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic#People | 16:40 |
| jlvillal | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic/CoreTeam | 16:40 |
| rloo | jlvillal: no, i mean 'we shouldn't need it but someone should check!' | 16:40 |
| dtantsur | right, and the guidelines is in the bottom :) | 16:40 |
| jlvillal | rloo, Ah! I thought we used pyghmi for something. But I'm not sure what. | 16:41 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, ^^^ ? | 16:41 |
| dtantsur | see "Other notes" | 16:41 |
| dtantsur | pyghmi is the basis of vbmc | 16:41 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, Thanks. I see now in "other notes" | 16:41 |
| rloo | dtantsur: oh, we're still using it? but it isn't in ironic governance. hmm. | 16:41 |
| jlvillal | rloo, Speaking of governance. I put something along that line in today's agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 16:42 |
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| rloo | jlvillal: dunno, i assume it was discussed way back when. i don't really care to have +2 on that anyway, so it doesn't matter to me :) | 16:43 |
| jlvillal | Thanks vsaienk0 (did he change his nick?) and vdrok for the quick approval of the networking-generic-switch patches to get the gate unblocked :) | 16:43 |
| jlvillal | rloo, I put it in there, since we depend on it for our gate jobs. And only Mirantis has approval power. See what people think in the meeting. | 16:44 |
| rloo | jlvillal: speaking of which, in 15 min... | 16:45 |
| jlvillal | Yep | 16:45 |
| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Clean-up zuul.d/ files https://review.openstack.org/518613 | 16:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rushil Chugh proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Add XClarity Driver https://review.openstack.org/519427 | 16:52 |
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| jlvillal | dtantsur, I'm hoping those 3 remaining reverts merge today. So hopefully you can do the release then. | 16:55 |
| dtantsur | nice! | 16:55 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, I have my recheck bot on the job ;) | 16:55 |
| dtantsur | heh | 16:55 |
| * dtantsur checks the IE visa requirements, and they don't look good | 16:56 | |
| rloo | dtantsur: :-( | 16:56 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, Oh, Ireland isn't Schengen :( | 16:56 |
| dtantsur | yeah | 16:56 |
| TheJulia | :( | 16:57 |
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| fellypefca | jlvillal thanks for the recheck bot on the reverts | 16:59 |
| jlvillal | fellypefca, :) | 16:59 |
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| dtantsur | folks, we're going to have meeting here, as the room is not working | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 13 17:10:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:10 |
| NobodyCam | +++ woo hoo | 17:10 |
| TheJulia | \o/ | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | see, the logging started http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-11-13-17.10.log.txt | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | hi all! | 17:11 |
| TheJulia | Greetings! | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | Oh, interesting. I didn't know it worked in ironic :) | 17:11 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | tripleo team has its meeting in their channel for some time | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:11 |
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| fellypefca | o/ | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | #info Virtual midcycle planning: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124466.html | 17:11 |
| TheJulia | IIRC there was a resolution to allow teams to have meetings in their channel. | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | yep | 17:12 |
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| dtantsur | so, please vote on a date for the virtual midcycle and propose topics | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I proposed a Forum summary topic for you, I hope you don't mind | 17:12 |
| rloo | before the midcycle, i think we should have some sort of thing/meet up to go through rfe specs | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | #info python-ironicclient 2.0.0 released with the latest API version by defaultr | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | rloo: why not do it right there? | 17:13 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I do not, I may want to break that up some more. Once done with my expense report in a little bit, I'm going to go back to my summary of the forum | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | #info ironic release delayed while we're reverting certain changes | 17:13 |
| TheJulia | :( | 17:13 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: cuz i dunno, i feel like doing things in smaller bits/hours is better than 2days of stuff | 17:13 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: just a suggestion | 17:14 |
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| dtantsur | getting people to participare is an issue though | 17:14 |
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| TheJulia | We should get a list together to discuss and participants should be prepared to run through them quickly | 17:14 |
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| TheJulia | If we need longer, then we know that we need more clarity and that a spec is definitely required | 17:15 |
| rloo | dtantsur: right, i think we need to address/do something about the backlog of not-reviewed/moving specs. it shouldn't be done only at a midcycle meet up | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | right | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | suggestions are welcome | 17:15 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: the midcycle meetup can be used to discuss/go into detail if there are disagreements. we don't know which have disagreements :-( | 17:15 |
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| dtantsur | let's move it to open discussion, ok? | 17:16 |
| rloo | i just made my suggestion :D | 17:16 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: agreed | 17:16 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: anything to announce from the Forum? | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, Should not have put periods at the end of those URLs in the email... | 17:16 |
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| jlvillal | They all are not-found :( | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: or people should fix their email clients ;) | 17:17 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: Biggest thing, per the foundation's keynote, the latest user survey indicated that ironic in production went from 9% to 20%. | 17:17 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, I went to the web page you pointed me too :P | 17:17 |
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| dtantsur | #info the latest user survey indicated that ironic in production went from 9% to 20% | 17:17 |
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| NobodyCam | ++ oh ya :) | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | w00t | 17:17 |
| jlvillal | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124466.html | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | ah, mailman bug. nice | 17:17 |
| NobodyCam | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124466.html | 17:17 |
| jlvillal | Doodle link: https://doodle.com/poll/wcqeu66fa6axusvw | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | thanks jlvillal, NobodyCam | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | anything else before we move on? | 17:18 |
| jlvillal | Mid-cycle link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-queens-midcycle | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-queens-midcycle midcycle planning | 17:18 |
| rloo | jlvillal: can you add #link? | 17:18 |
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| jlvillal | rloo, done! | 17:18 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: #link so they show up on the summary | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | hehe | 17:19 |
| NobodyCam | :p | 17:19 |
| jlvillal | done by dtantsur ;) | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 17:19 |
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| * TheJulia goes off into the corner and begins brewing coffee | 17:19 | |
| dtantsur | #link eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-11-06-17.00.html | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | to be honest, I did not do a lot wrt bug triaging | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | sorry | 17:19 |
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| dtantsur | but I see the bug number still decreasing, so somebody has done something :) | 17:20 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: the expiration is kicking in for incomplete bugs | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | right | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) | 17:20 |
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| dtantsur | your favourite part :) | 17:20 |
| TheJulia | We need to go through and clean-up our backlog, I'm willing to spend a little time this week trying to clean up things older than a year | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | cool, we'll get back to it soon | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard line 148 | 17:21 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: should we discuss version negotiation in nova (again) at the midcycle? | 17:22 |
| rloo | wrt migration of legacy* jobs. TheJulia, someone needs to look at bifrost stable/ocata. jobs are failing there | 17:23 |
| TheJulia | yeah, I think we may have gotten slightly off-topic and misconstrued the scope, that and where did all the time go | 17:23 |
| rloo | TheJulia: info is in the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-zuulv3-intree-tracking | 17:24 |
| TheJulia | rloo: acknowledged | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | johnthetubaguy: do we need to discuss traits (again, omg) on the midcycle? | 17:24 |
| rloo | dtantsur: what does the TODO: easier access to versions in ironicclient mean? L190? | 17:25 |
| rloo | dtantsur: is that described in the rfe or somewhere? | 17:25 |
| TheJulia | rloo: so we can add logic in nova client... or any client that is version dependent | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | rloo: it's my brain dump. tl;dr let callers learn the current version and modify it on fly | 17:25 |
| rloo | TheJulia: so that needs a spec? | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | maybe also make sure that supported version range is accessible from our exceptions | 17:25 |
| * dtantsur feels like we should discuss it indeed | 17:26 | |
| TheJulia | I think a spec is likely overkill, maybe if we change negotiation a spec is needed | 17:26 |
| TheJulia | yes ++ | 17:26 |
| rloo | i don't care what you call it, i'd like it documented before i'm forced to review the code :D | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | fair enough; I'd use the midcycle to come up with a detailed RFE | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | and show it to nova, so that they don't call us crazy when we get them a patch :) | 17:27 |
| TheJulia | well, even then, we don't NEED to get them a patch unless we go to change the minimum microversion | 17:27 |
| TheJulia | at that point, it is appropriate for us to change the logic around. | 17:28 |
| rloo | for L248, is it tracking stuff other than migrating legacy* jobs intree? | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | I'd like people to start converting the jobs on master to proper ansible | 17:29 |
| rloo | jlvillal: are we good to continue with splitting away the tempest plugin? L295 | 17:29 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: ok, i'll put that down then. | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | not as an urgent priority any more, but something we gradually do | 17:29 |
| jlvillal | rloo, Maybe. If everything is done for the stable branches. Then I think so. | 17:29 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: perhaps feel free, but I don't think it is something we should add as a todo right now unless people are interested and knowledgeable in that regard | 17:30 |
| rloo | jlvillal: you're going on vaca soon? | 17:30 |
| jlvillal | Yes, starting this Saturday. | 17:30 |
| jlvillal | Gone for almost two weeks | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | jlvillal: have fun! | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | huh, should we do the tempest business this week then? | 17:30 |
| jlvillal | Thanks! Portugal here we come :) | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | possibly a good idea | 17:30 |
| rloo | nope, let's hold off tempest business til jlvillal is back. | 17:31 |
| jlvillal | Either way works for me. | 17:31 |
| jlvillal | But the speed of our gate can sometimes be a problem. | 17:31 |
| jlvillal | As witnessed by the revert series... | 17:31 |
| rloo | jlvillal: but if we start this and something is wrong while you're away? | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | I'm fine with delaying till December FWIW | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | Yeah. Sounds good to me to wait. | 17:32 |
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| dtantsur | I guess we should allow people some time to merge someting, until we screw up the gate again :D | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | I would hate for the gate to have an issue mid-way through and then I leave. | 17:32 |
| TheJulia | I guess I'm okay as well with deplaying until december | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | we're past 10 minutes. ready to move on? | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | Neutron is what messed up our gate this time! Not us ;) | 17:32 |
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| rloo | +1 to movin' on | 17:33 |
| jlvillal | +1 | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:34 |
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| dtantsur | we did finish a few things | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | I'm a bit worried that rescue gets no substantial progress | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | what about putting something from there on the list? | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | or any other ideas? | 17:35 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I like that idea | 17:35 |
| rloo | i stopped reviewing rescue. was going to resume *after* the ironic release, which hasn't happened yet :-( | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | wow, that's a lot of patches | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | I think we ought to add the etherpad and doodle for midcycle topics to the priority list so people explicitly look at it. | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | rloo: let's assume we can release really soon | 17:36 |
| rloo | traits spec is ready, not sure it needs to be a priority: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504531/ | 17:36 |
| patchbot | patch 504531 - ironic-specs - Traits on Ironic Nodes | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: yeah, it was a few large patches, then it was asked to be split if memory serves. :( | 17:36 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i've been assuming that for awhile :) | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | who rememebers, should we start with ironic or IPA side? | 17:37 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: ironci and ipa mid way | 17:37 |
| TheJulia | ipa needs to be in place like half way through ironic | 17:38 |
| TheJulia | That could also just be ipa then ironic | 17:38 |
| rloo | i'd like this as a priority too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467728/ | 17:38 |
| patchbot | patch 467728 - ironic - Rework keystone auth for glance | 17:38 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:38 |
| rloo | btw the first rescue patch is really easy, it is the db change | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | yeah, this is why I put several of them | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | added keystoneauth | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | anything else? how's the list looking? | 17:40 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: the rescue set looks good | 17:40 |
| TheJulia | looks good to me except the reverts are not listed | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: they're a bit below, in the oneview section | 17:40 |
| rloo | reverts are at L131. | 17:41 |
| rloo | aren't they all approved, just need to merge? | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | yep | 17:41 |
| rloo | so that #2 is really for dtantsur | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | right, yeah | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | I think we even cleaned up reno already | 17:41 |
| rloo | cuz i refuse to review any more reno changes. ha ha | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | LOL | 17:41 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: ahh, okay | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | any other comments? | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | moving on? | 17:42 |
| TheJulia | sure | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | #topic Appointing a bug triaging lead for the coming week | 17:42 |
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| dtantsur | any victims? | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | I can compensate for the last week if I do find time now | 17:43 |
| rloo | thx for volunteering dtantsur! | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | :) | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | #action dtantsur to lead bug triaging this week, this time for real | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | #topic Should openstack/networking-generic-switch be under the Ironic umbrella? | 17:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Should openstack/networking-generic-switch be under the Ironic umbrella? (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:44 | |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: your turn | 17:44 |
| jlvillal | I was wondering what others think about this | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | who are cores on n-g-s now? pas-ha, vsaienk0, vdrok? | 17:44 |
| jlvillal | We are dependent on this package for our multi-tenant jobs | 17:44 |
| pas-ha | yep | 17:44 |
| pas-ha | we are | 17:44 |
| jlvillal | Currently all cores for n-g-s are Mirantis only. | 17:44 |
| pas-ha | also true | 17:44 |
| rloo | hmm, not much diversity there. or diff time zones :-( | 17:44 |
| jlvillal | So if we have any pressing situations we are kind of stuck. | 17:45 |
| jlvillal | Not saying we really want to be reviewing that, but in emergencies it would be useful if we had the power. | 17:45 |
| rloo | pas-ha: are there other folks that have been contributing, that you feel can be core? | 17:45 |
| pas-ha | mgoddard for what I remember (and I even presume they run this thingy in prod o_O :) ) | 17:46 |
| jlvillal | Personally I think it would be good if the Ironic cores "could" approve things, if needed. | 17:46 |
| jlvillal | Other opinions? | 17:46 |
| rloo | jlvillal: we also rely on nova, neutron, other projects and we don't have the power. | 17:46 |
| TheJulia | I feel like I have a good understanding since I've dug through the code and contributed a patch once, so happy to serve as a sanity check core | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | a work around that does not include too many unrelated people is to include ironic-stable-maint | 17:46 |
| jlvillal | rloo, But those projects have multiple time-zones and companies as cores. | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | this is Julia, Ruby and me | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | and only use it in emergencies | 17:47 |
| rloo | jlvillal: maybe we should first ask. should it be under ironic governance? | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | rloo: this is a different question btw | 17:47 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, That would work too. | 17:47 |
| TheJulia | pas-ha: Several people mentioned using it at the forum.... and yes, I did bring up "not intended for production use" | 17:47 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i know. i am separating the two issues | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | I think it should, but I'm not the one to decide :) | 17:47 |
| rloo | dtantsur: but the govenance thing would/might address the 2nd one :) | 17:47 |
| pas-ha | TheJulia: apparently there's no real alt for cheap HW ATM.. | 17:48 |
| TheJulia | pas-ha: there is not, and is is easy to modify/change to meet specific needs, which it turns out... everyone has. | 17:48 |
| TheJulia | anyway, that is another discussion for not right now. | 17:48 |
| jlvillal | I don't think we have to come to a decision at this time. Would be good to get vsaienk0's opinion. Since he is the main person behind the project. | 17:48 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | ML? | 17:49 |
| rloo | so I don't know enough about networking-generic-switch. is the only reason for asking about governance, the who-can-+2 issue? | 17:49 |
| pas-ha | we'd be happy to be accepted under ironic gov, just that contrary to vbmc etc our scope is a big bigger... but still BM - only swutches :) | 17:49 |
| jlvillal | rloo, It is for me. | 17:49 |
| mgoddard | pas-ha: Yes, in leiu of knowing of something better (or something at all), we use NGS | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I suspect it's only used with ironic and for ironic | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: That is my take as well | 17:49 |
| rloo | in that case, it makes sense to be under ironic governance. | 17:50 |
| dtantsur | so, while we don't have generic alternatives, n-g-s is a reasonable addition to our portfolio | 17:50 |
| rloo | just like eg sushy-library, ... | 17:50 |
| dtantsur | yeah, with a core subteam (similar to inspector's) to keep pas-ha's core rights | 17:51 |
| pas-ha | fits me | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | pas-ha: wanna bring it to the ML for discussion? | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | if we don't see critical objections, we can bring it to the TC then | 17:51 |
| pas-ha | yep, will do first thing tomorrow. | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | thanks! | 17:52 |
| jlvillal | Thanks! | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | #action pas-ha to start public ML discussion on bringing networking-generic-switch under ironic umbrella | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | does it address the topic, jlvillal? | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | So, roughly 7 minute warning | 17:53 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, yep. Thanks | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | #topic Open discussion | 17:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:53 | |
| dtantsur | 7 minutes for cricke^Wother important things :) | 17:53 |
| NobodyCam | Just wanted to say I was really impressed with how much ironic we talked about at summit! | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | great! oh, NobodyCam, we'll be waiting for your summary as well ;) | 17:54 |
| rloo | i was going to pull a list of rfes to discuss. i have them, but not in any order. did you want to discuss? | 17:54 |
| NobodyCam | In almost every keynote | 17:54 |
| jlvillal | NobodyCam, Yeah, I hear PayPal even uses it too ;) | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | rloo: now or separately? | 17:54 |
| NobodyCam | hehehehe | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | lol | 17:54 |
| rloo | these are rfe's that we haven't approved or said needs-spec | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | rloo: we can see how the doodle shapes, and pick a date from there | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | right | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | I think the initial plan was to take 2-3 each meeting | 17:54 |
| rloo | wanted to resurrect that process cuz clearly we aren't dealing with them. | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 17:55 |
| rloo | right. | 17:55 |
| rloo | ok, here's one for today to whet our appetite | 17:55 |
| rloo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1673298 | 17:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673298 in Ironic "[RFE]Virtual Machines as BMs in Devstack support multiple network interfaces" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Tao Li (eric-litao) | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | word "Devstack" makes me suspect it's not an RFE | 17:55 |
| rloo | unfortunately, i haven't vetted them yet, didn't have time | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | yes, it's about our CI. I don't think it should be an RFE, but rather a testing improvement | 17:56 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yes, i think when we make changes to devstack, they aren't rfe's. but we don't really have a process for that. folks 'just' make changes. | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | I'd use bugs to track them | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | we even have a "gate" tag | 17:56 |
| pas-ha | +1 | 17:57 |
| rloo | dtantsur: so treat them as bugs. but we should try to keep on top of them, we don't want folks working on the code changes just to find out we don't like the idea. | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | the same situation as with bugs: some are WONTFIX or NOTABUG | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | this is why triaging is important | 17:57 |
| rloo | right, so glad dtantsur is triaging this week! | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | heh | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | rloo: wanna update this bug? | 17:58 |
| rloo | i'll update that bug then. that's all for today, stay tuned for more fun next week! | 17:58 |
| TheJulia | :) | 17:58 |
| dtantsur | thanks rloo | 17:58 |
| dtantsur | wrapping up? | 17:59 |
| rloo | +1 | 17:59 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | thanks all! | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bare Metal Provisioning | Status: http://bit.ly/ironic-whiteboard | Docs: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/ | Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic" | 17:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 13 17:59:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-11-13-17.10.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-11-13-17.10.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-11-13-17.10.log.html | 17:59 |
| NobodyCam | I liked having meeting in channel! | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | don't forget to NOT leave this channel :D | 17:59 |
| NobodyCam | lol +++ | 17:59 |
| pas-ha | :lol: | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | heh | 17:59 |
| rloo | ++ I don't see any reason not to have it in channel, makes it easier to remember :) | 18:00 |
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| NobodyCam | and I tab I could close in IRC :) | 18:00 |
| TheJulia | The main meeting, to me, it makes sense, other meetings that are related but more subteam specific, it doesn't make much sense to generate what others might see as noise in this channel. | 18:01 |
| NobodyCam | +++ TheJulia that makes sense | 18:01 |
| dtantsur | yeah | 18:06 |
| dtantsur | so, we wanna move the meeting? | 18:06 |
| jlvillal | +1 is my vote to move | 18:06 |
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| TheJulia | I'm good with moving the meeting, we likely just need to be prepared to have some additional chatter during the meeting | 18:06 |
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| nicodemos | +1 to move :) | 18:07 |
| fellypefca | +1 :) | 18:07 |
| dtantsur | it's not a huge problem | 18:07 |
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| dtantsur | okay, I'll bring it to the ML. if no objections will be recorded, I'll propose (somehow?) a move | 18:07 |
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| jlvillal | dtantsur, Just a patch to irc-calendar project. I think. | 18:08 |
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| jlvillal | dtantsur, And update the Wiki. | 18:08 |
| dtantsur | I hope so :) | 18:08 |
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| dtantsur | that's for tomorrow, now I'll call it a day :) see you | 18:08 |
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| rloo | have a good evening dtantsur|afk! | 18:11 |
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| TheJulia | NobodyCam: you going to be around later today? | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Add synchronize-events-with-neutron spec https://review.openstack.org/343684 | 18:17 |
| NobodyCam | I might be. okay Yes I will be :) | 18:18 |
| TheJulia | jetlag? | 18:18 |
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| NobodyCam | I think I'm mostly over that (I hope). | 18:18 |
| TheJulia | ditto | 18:19 |
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| jlvillal | Woo-hoo! ^^^ Only two more to go :) | 20:59 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 21:01 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ironic-lib master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/519103 | 21:08 |
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| rloo | jlvillal: a new zuul error: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518603/ | 21:20 |
| patchbot | patch 518603 - ironic (stable/ocata) - Remove experimental jobs and sort job definitions ... | 21:20 |
| jlvillal | rloo, Yeah, infra landed a patch which broke all of Zuul :( | 21:20 |
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| jlvillal | rloo, But they just reverted it :) | 21:21 |
| rloo | jlvillal: they need their own sandbox to test their stuff :-( | 21:21 |
| jlvillal | rloo, Maybe. I just did a recheck | 21:21 |
| rloo | not maybe. | 21:22 |
| jlvillal | rloo, They are investigating how come the project they landed the patch into has no zuul checks, but things that land in there can break all of zuul | 21:22 |
| rloo | jlvillal: and what production env would allow you to test like that | 21:23 |
| * TheJulia blinks | 21:23 | |
| jlvillal | rloo, Well obviously something is wrong there. And they are investigating. But yeah, not good that it could happen. | 21:23 |
| TheJulia | I can think of a few environments, at the infrastructure management layer, where that was easy to happen. | 21:24 |
| rloo | jlvillal: it isn't just that. it is the history of this migration... hindsight, i know... | 21:24 |
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| rloo | dtantsur|afk: i just approved this rfe, feel free to disagree: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1715529 | 22:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1715529 in Ironic "[RFE] Associate ports and portgroups with volume connectors" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:15 |
| rloo | TheJulia, jlvillal: are you good with approving this w/o a spec? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1674899 | 22:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1674899 in Ironic "[RFE] Implement Rescue for ILO Virtual Media drivers" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Shivanand Tendulker (stendulker) | 22:19 |
| * TheJulia context switches | 22:19 | |
| * TheJulia looks | 22:19 | |
| * jlvillal looks but has to leave in two minutes | 22:20 | |
| * TheJulia looks | 22:21 | |
| jlvillal | rloo: TheJulia My gut feeling would be yes. I'm assuming Rescue is already done. And they are adding that support to iLO. I guess I'm thinking it won't be that big of a change and contained to their driver. | 22:21 |
| jlvillal | But I could be wrong on the complexity of course. | 22:21 |
| TheJulia | rloo: Agreed without spec, as long as they are not attempting to add any new interface methods | 22:22 |
| rloo | jlvillal: exactly. we just need to know the name of the interface, probably 'ilo' or something like that :) | 22:22 |
| TheJulia | if they are, then... we need to evaluate it then | 22:22 |
| rloo | TheJulia: yup. Ok, i'll put a clause to the approval :) | 22:22 |
| * jlvillal goes to fix his roof | 22:22 | |
| TheJulia | Thanks | 22:22 |
| TheJulia | jlvillal: eek! | 22:22 |
| TheJulia | jlvillal: be safe! have someone spot the ladder! | 22:22 |
| jlvillal | Well more like cover the leak area better with the tarp | 22:22 |
| * TheJulia jumps back into summit braindump of doom | 22:22 | |
| TheJulia | :) | 22:22 |
| jlvillal | TheJulia, Exactly. Getting someone to watch me. | 22:23 |
| jlvillal | And call 911 if I fall... | 22:23 |
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| TheJulia | heh | 22:26 |
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| jlvillal | And I'm still alive :) | 23:06 |
| rloo | jlvillal: yay! | 23:08 |
| JayF | jlvillal: :( I had a pretty severe roof damage thing happen two weeks ago. My condolances. Hopefully you get it covered up before any of the interior gets damaged. | 23:11 |
| jlvillal | :) | 23:11 |
| jlvillal | JayF, Oh :( | 23:11 |
| jlvillal | JayF, Problem around here is how far the roofers are booked out. | 23:11 |
| jlvillal | JayF, I hope they got you fixed quickly. | 23:11 |
| jlvillal | JayF, Luckily for us it leaked in almost the perfect spot as the water came out the bathroom light fixture. So we noticed it quickly. | 23:12 |
| jlvillal | And did minimal damage. | 23:12 |
| jlvillal | That we have seen. | 23:12 |
| JayF | My roof is a concrete tile roof installed in '83, and is missing a lot of the anti-leak goodies new ones have. Basically that means, any roof impact, I have water coming directly into my house. This time a limb speared one of my tiles and obliterated it, and cracked ~10 others :( | 23:12 |
| JayF | wouldn't have been so bad if I had done what you did (tarp'd it), but I was warned against walking on the tile roof | 23:12 |
| jlvillal | Oh no :( That sucks! | 23:12 |
| jlvillal | JayF, Maybe you made the right call. I would worry how slippery they would be. | 23:13 |
| JayF | more that they don't even have plywood beneath them; so you have to know exactly where to step | 23:13 |
| jlvillal | JayF, I was worried about falling with my asphalt roof. It was fine, but I don't want to fall. | 23:13 |
| jlvillal | Oh, yeah good idea to stay off | 23:14 |
| JayF | jlvillal: yeah, this one is missing all underpinning, as was standard for this roof in the 80s, but it's awful now and a pain :( | 23:14 |
| jlvillal | Luckily covering up about 5-10 square feet with the tarp stopped the leak. Just folded the tarp a few times. | 23:14 |
| jlvillal | Last night had a wind storm and one of the bricks tumbled a few feet and woke me up at 1:30am | 23:15 |
| jlvillal | So I bought 10 more pavers and have it pretty much lined at every spot along the sides of the tarp and in the middle. | 23:15 |
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| TheJulia | ugh, I'm glad the one roof leak I've had was relatively minor :( | 23:16 |
| JayF | I mean, this was "minor" in terms of how impactful it was. Just I have a roof where every minor issue isn't minor :( | 23:16 |
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| TheJulia | :( | 23:22 |
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| TheJulia | Okay folks, expect a ml post from me tomorrow with a summary from the summit/forum. In the mean time, I'm calling it a night. | 23:53 |
| rloo | good night TheJulia! | 23:55 |
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