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openstackgerritTan Lin proposed openstack/ironic: Remove unused expected_filter in the unit test  https://review.openstack.org/34023807:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-inspector: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33989208:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-inspector: remove unused LOG  https://review.openstack.org/34008908:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/34005008:08
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/ironic: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/31844008:10
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openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Collect Ironic agent ramdisk logs  https://review.openstack.org/33722308:15
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openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Collect Ironic agent ramdisk logs  https://review.openstack.org/33722308:17
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mgouldmorning Ironic!08:37
Nisha1dtantsur|afk, lucasagomes morning08:38
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Nisha1mgould, morning!08:38
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mgouldmorning Nisha1 dtantsur|afk lucasagomes08:39
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lucasagomesNisha1, mgould dtantsur|afk morning08:40
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aarefievmorning!08:47
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Nisha1o/08:49
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vdrokgood morning mgould lucasagomes aarefiev Nisha1 and PixieBoots !08:54
aarefievhey vdrok08:54
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lucasagomesvdrok, hi there08:55
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic: Bump the "min_command_interval" default value from 5 to 10  https://review.openstack.org/33969108:55
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dtantsurMorning Ironic, morning lucasagomes, mgould, aarefiev, vdrok, Nisha108:57
sambettsGooooooood monday morning to everyone08:57
dtantsurand morning sambetts :)08:57
vdrokmorning dtantsur and sambetts :)08:57
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sambettso/ dtantsur, vdrok08:57
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sambettso/ lucasagomes Nisha1 aarefiev mat128|pto08:58
sambettsmgould:08:58
aarefievmorning  dtantsur sambetts :)08:58
Nisha1o/08:58
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lucasagomessambetts, hi there :-)08:58
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openstackgerritTan Lin proposed openstack/ironic: Improve _check_depolying_status to handle nodes in maintenance  https://review.openstack.org/32426909:03
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mgouldmorning aarefiev vdrok sambetts09:05
aarefievmorning mgould09:05
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vdrokdtantsur: could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285852/63/ironic/common/driver_factory.py - a discussion about the default network interface? would be good to have your opinion too :)10:14
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dtantsursure, just lemme grab lunch10:14
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lucasagomesxhku_, something is not right with the network there :-)10:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33989110:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Remove white space between print and ()  https://review.openstack.org/33942810:52
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vsaienk0Morning Ironic'ers!10:53
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sambettso/ vsaienk010:53
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mgouldmorning vsaienk010:54
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lucasagomesvsaienk0, morning10:54
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dtantsuroh, this is a week of Newton-2, isn't it? we might get some releases out11:00
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dtantsurI'd say it justifies a release: http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic-inspector/current-series.html#id111:02
dtantsursambetts, aarefiev, ifarkas ^^^11:02
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sambettsdtantsur: totally :)11:03
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dtantsurI also don't see any outstanding patches we urgently need to merge11:04
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sambettsme neither11:04
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sambettsI took a look just now, only major feature is the manage boot thing and that still needs some reviewing11:05
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aarefievyeah, I'm looking on it now11:05
dtantsuryeah, I don't think we need to hurry with manage_book11:05
dtantsurmanage book lol11:05
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sambettsXD11:06
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dtantsurand LLDP one depends on ironic patches11:06
sambettsyeah :(11:06
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dtantsurthis is going to be 4.0.0, as we've removed the bash ramdisk support11:06
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sambetts++11:07
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aarefievyeah pretty significant change11:07
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dtantsurrelease request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340303/11:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client: Print rule import results  https://review.openstack.org/33729411:29
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dtantsurI think client can be released too11:30
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sambettsalthough not a huge amout has changed looking at the change log11:31
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* dtantsur checks11:31
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dtantsurthe just-merged patch is not rendered there yet11:31
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aarefievwe have new api version11:33
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dtantsuranyway, here it goes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340312/11:34
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jrollmorning y'all11:34
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sambettsMorning jroll11:35
jrollxhku_: please fix your connection11:35
dtantsurmorning jroll! as you see above, inspector releases are coming. any plans for ironic?11:35
aarefievmorning jroll11:35
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jrolldtantsur: we just did 6.0.0 a couple weeks back, I think I'll wait for networking things11:35
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dtantsurgot it. lemme check IPA and ironicclient11:36
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jrollthanks <311:36
dtantsuroh, ironicclient might use a release: http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/python-ironicclient/current-series.html11:36
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jroll++11:36
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jrollif you want to do it, go ahead, or I can do it (and ack inspector releases) once I'm more awake11:37
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dtantsurI'll do it, no problem11:37
aarefievdtantsur: do we want to add api version bump to  highlights, dunno who is using it11:37
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dtantsuraarefiev, it will be in release notes anyway. I'm not sure why I even fill in highlights  :)11:37
dtantsurbut we bump this nearly every release11:38
aarefievok :)11:38
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jrollthanks dtantsur11:38
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dtantsurIPA is also worth releasing: http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic-python-agent/current-series.html will do11:38
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jrollTIL /ignore doesn't work for join/quit spam11:39
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dtantsur:(11:40
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dtantsurjroll, client: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340317/11:42
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mgouldjroll: I think it does, but you need to specify some additional data: https://irssi.org/documentation/tips/11:42
mgouldsee under "anti annoyance filters"11:42
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jrollmgould: weechat :P11:42
mgouldah11:42
mgouldcan't help you, then11:42
jrollbut yeah, just needs work, I'll live11:42
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dtantsurjroll, and IPA: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340320/11:44
* dtantsur check ironic-lib now11:45
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jrolldtantsur: yeah, I'll get them all at some point today11:45
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dtantsurjroll, I wonder if ironic-lib needs major bump due to https://github.com/openstack/ironic-lib/commit/2ca50bc7ee96f69c0ee52d87358a5d47eceee97711:47
dtantsuriirc yes11:48
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jrolldtantsur: indeed11:48
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loki_hi all please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272658/11:49
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mgoulddtantsur, jroll that looks like a major version bump to me11:56
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dtantsurokie, thanks11:57
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dtantsurjroll, ok, here goes ironic-lib: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340328/12:01
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dtantsuroh, ifarkas, do you have something to release for dracclient and wsmanclient?12:03
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ifarkasdtantsur, not yet, I plan a release in a couple weeks12:05
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dtantsurokie12:05
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ifarkasdtantsur, want extend the inventory api for oob inspection12:06
dtantsurah yeah12:06
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dtantsurjroll, do you think we could claim http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_supports-upgrade.html and http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html for ironic now?12:06
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jrolldtantsur: oh, yes we should12:07
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dtantsurjroll, wanna propose?12:07
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jrollyes12:08
* dtantsur dreams of having assert:supports-upgrade for inspector by end of newton12:08
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jrolldtantsur: "A procedure for general upgrades of the project is defined and does not change substantially from cycle to cycle." <- we may need to document this better12:11
jrollhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/deploy/upgrade-guide.html is only release-specific things12:11
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dtantsuryeah.. we need someone with English skills12:12
jrollthough I guess, bring down services, update code, run db migrations, bring up services12:12
jrollis fairly obvious12:12
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dtantsurstill worth documenting for complete newcomers12:12
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jrollyeah12:14
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lucasagomes++12:17
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lucasagomesmorning jroll12:17
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jrollheya lucasagomes :)12:19
jrolldtantsur: fyi, the tags  https://review.openstack.org/34033512:19
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dtantsur\o/12:19
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic: Implement new heartbeat for AgentDeploy  https://review.openstack.org/33396412:25
dtantsurjroll, lucasagomes, I could use some reviews on ^^ please if you have a minute12:25
lucasagomesdtantsur, yup, 1 sec12:25
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openstackgerritSaravanan KR proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Set the kernel args to the nodes at bootloader install  https://review.openstack.org/33505212:32
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openstackgerritSaravanan KR proposed openstack/ironic: Providing kernel_args if available in instance_info for boot options  https://review.openstack.org/33997712:35
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Use new agent API if available  https://review.openstack.org/33452312:39
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic: Promote agent vendor passthru to core API  https://review.openstack.org/33001812:40
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Use new agent API if available  https://review.openstack.org/33452312:41
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TheJuliaGood morning everyone12:51
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dtantsurmorning TheJulia12:51
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openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add 'baremetal' to enabled Neutron  mech. drivers.  https://review.openstack.org/34035512:55
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vsaienk0morning TheJulia12:57
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost: Do Not Merge: Canery test for ironic networking changes  https://review.openstack.org/33013813:02
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost: Do Not Merge: Canery test for ironic networking changes  https://review.openstack.org/33013813:03
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost: Do Not Merge: Canery test for ironic networking changes  https://review.openstack.org/33013813:03
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TheJuliablah, web interface13:03
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mgoulddtantsur, jroll: I hereby volunteer my English skills for use13:05
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mgouldI promise not to use archaic words like "hereby" while doing so :-)13:05
TheJuliamgould: Oh, but you should!13:05
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jrollmgould: ++13:07
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mgouldexcellent :-)13:08
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xavierrgood morning Ironic13:12
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Romanenko_KHi!13:13
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xavierrgood morning xhku_ haha13:13
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mgouldmorning xavierr Romanenko_K13:15
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xavierrmgould, hi there :)13:16
TheJuliaSo that join/part is getting old :)13:16
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TheJuliaxhku_: Your joining and leaving after ~30 seconds, firewall issue between you and the irc server?13:16
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TheJulianot even that I guess13:16
* jroll finally turned on weechat smart filters13:17
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* sambetts has had irssi blocking joins and leaves ever since he started on Freenode13:17
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* mgould set that up first thing this morning :-)13:17
TheJuliaI find seeing the joins and parts useful to mentally keep track of who is in the room, but... uhh.. yeah :(13:18
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dtantsurto be honest, it's convenient to see when people join/leave13:18
dtantsuryeah13:18
sambettsits just frustrating, I wish they did the same for the OpenStack IRC logs they are 90% joins/leaves13:18
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sambettsI find that a lot of people use AFK nicks in OpenStack so I see the nick change to indicate to me someones joined, or most people say Hi in some form when they join too13:19
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jrollso, weechat's filters will show for recently active people, but not inactive people13:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Remove unused expected_filter in the unit test  https://review.openstack.org/34023813:19
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sambettsthats pretty cool13:22
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openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Collect Ironic agent ramdisk logs  https://review.openstack.org/33722313:25
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vsaienk0jroll, lucasagomes, dtantsur could you please review ^, once have a time13:25
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dtantsurvsaienk0, I think lucasagomes is working on something like that already13:26
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dtantsurvsaienk0, http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/not-implemented/collect-system-logs-from-ipa.html13:27
lucasagomesdtantsur, yup yeah this came out of that work actually13:27
lucasagomesit's a counter proposal13:27
dtantsurmmm?13:27
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vsaienk0dtantsur, yeah, I'm concerned about the way. I think that logs should be collected via system tools, Ironic has nothing to do with it13:28
dtantsurI'm not sure I like having open syslog on the ironic machine13:28
vsaienk0I propose to use syslog and journal-remote for this13:28
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dtantsurvsaienk0, well, we do it in inspector already...13:28
vsaienk0dtantsur why we need to implement things that already exists?13:28
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lucasagomesdtantsur, so yeah, we the spec he put up is so we can get to a consensus about how we should do it13:28
* lucasagomes will read the spec13:28
dtantsurbecause they don't work the way we want13:29
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vsaienk0dtantsur, I think that we just don't know how to configure them right13:29
jrollmy main question is, how do we make sure the logs are flushed to the remote server before a reboot?13:29
* persia rereads rfc5424, and confirms there is no requirement for a syslog originator to have an open port, nor for traffic to be sent unencrypted by a syslog transport or relay.13:30
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dtantsure.g. I'm not sure we want a syslog instance opened to everyone on the deployment network13:30
vsaienk0syslog for example is a standart, journal-remote will replace it.13:30
dtantsurok, we already have 2 standards :D13:30
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dtantsurI mean, it may be fine, but it needs wide review from operators13:31
vsaienk0jroll, log entry is sent to remote syslog/journal-remote server as soon they added.13:31
jrolljournald can forward to syslog fwiw13:31
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dtantsurI don't want to end up with something that operators will refuse to deploy13:31
vsaienk0journal-remote is systemd implementation that is similar to syslog, It has both collector and originator,13:31
jrollvsaienk0: right, but if a log is being sent while we reboot...13:31
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dtantsure.g. because then everyone on the network will be able to spam their syslog13:31
* jroll knows JayF has strong opinions about this as well13:31
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vsaienk0dtantsur, need to check but I think it is possible to authenticate remote system13:32
dtantsurnot in our case13:32
persiadtantsur: Why not?13:32
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dtantsurbecause of the nature of our deployment process13:32
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lucasagomeswe would need to bake something in the image for authentication probably13:33
dtantsurno, no, no, no, no13:33
vsaienk0my main concern is that Ironic is not tool that is responsible for log collecting. Especially there are a standards for this.13:33
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* lucasagomes lol at dtantsur :D13:33
dtantsurfolks, lets not get back to it once again. we can authenticate anything only with vmedia13:33
dtantsurevery secret we put on TFTP as part of the image is available to every one and their dog13:33
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vsaienk0dtantsur: https://www.linux.com/blog/tls-encryption-and-mutual-authentication-using-syslog-ng-open-source-edition13:34
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dtantsurI trust you, but please see above13:34
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dtantsurI also wonder how you implement sending logs only on success, which is the default in lucasagomes' suggestion (and inspector)13:35
lucasagomesone thing is also about when to capture the logs, having it in ironic allows a more fine grained filter AFAIUI. For example, only collecting the logs when the dpeloyment fails13:35
lucasagomesinstead of every time13:35
dtantsurthis13:35
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sambettsOne thing we can do now which I'm not sure we'll be able to if we do this route is how Ironic can ignore the logs if it wants13:35
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sambettshahaha great minds think alike and all that13:36
lucasagomes:-)13:36
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dtantsurthat said, I'm not against having it in-tree. I'm just not sure it replaces lucasagomes' idea.13:36
vsaienk0dtantsur, proposed change allows to collect all logs from bootstrap any time, not only during success. For example when we using syslog, once syslog on bootstrap is configured it will start sending new log entries when they come to syslog, not when we finished deployment13:36
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vsaienk0we will receive the on collector in real time13:37
vsaienk0s/the/them13:37
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dtantsurvsaienk0, and we'd prefer to be able to do it only on failure13:37
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vsaienk0dtantsur, if you success you can flush remote logs on conductor, it is not a problem13:37
jrollfwiw, a deployer can already do this today, by baking the syslog config into the ramdisk13:38
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jrollthe only thing this gives is configuring host/port from ironic13:38
jrollwhich, if you need to bake credentials anyway, isn't terribly useful13:38
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jroll(imho)13:38
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vsaienk0jroll doe IPA authenticate itself? Why I can't spoof ipa during deployment?13:39
jrollvsaienk0: it only uses MAC addresses for auth, you can spoof it :(13:39
jrollthis is something we've talked about quite a bit13:39
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vsaienk0we can't call it 'auth'...13:40
jrollright13:40
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vsaienk0jroll: I'm sured that deployers using syslog/journal-remote or other system tools to collect logs from bootstrap. In MOS we using syslog. Collecting logs from remote is common thin. It is already solved by system tools, I doubt that we should re-implement them in Ironic.13:43
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jrollvsaienk0: I understand it's common, it's possible today already13:44
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dtantsurprovisioning a machine is a common thing too, but we did re-implement it here :/13:44
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jrolllol13:45
dtantsurI'd like these 2 concerns: syslog security and turning logging on/off to be somehow addressed13:45
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jrollI don't think these things are mutually exclusive13:45
dtantsurthen we can start talking to operators if they actually want something like that13:45
jrollthey both have pros and cons13:46
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dtantsuryes, I think we can have both13:46
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dtantsurI would even imagine having only INFO logging to syslog and sending the whole log on failure13:46
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vsaienk0dtantsur: if we sending logs on demand after success or failure. We will not have logs at all if bootstrap stuck.13:49
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dtantsurbootstrap usually gets stuck on DHCP/PXE/iPXE stage anyway13:49
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dtantsurthere are some rare cases like missing kernel modules ofc13:50
vsaienk0bootstrap can stuck at any time13:50
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dtantsurof course, but I'm more concerned with when it actually gets stuck or fails in real life13:51
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vsaienk0even due to missing python modules when IPA can't start, with system tool logging you will see it13:51
lucasagomesjroll, dtantsur vsaienk0 we could have support for both, since syslog is pretty much supported already we can also include a document explain how one could enable it13:51
dtantsuryeah, I agree with lucasagomes, we can totally support that13:51
jrolllucasagomes: yeah, that's what we're saying13:51
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lucasagomesjroll, cool, I have to pay more attention (/me looking at some downstream CI thingy at the moment)13:52
jrollyeah no worries13:52
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dtantsurwhat I also like in lucasagomes' proposal is that we can run arbitrary commands and get their output. e.g. we can run "route" and try traceroute to ironic, etc. there is a big room for enhancements13:52
lucasagomesyeah that's handy13:53
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dtantsurrunning lsmod, running lspci, listing modules in /lib/modules etc13:53
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dtantsurlike what sosreport does13:53
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dtantsurbut yeah, I can see that syslog can be handy too13:54
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jrolldtantsur: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334523/8/ironic_python_agent/ironic_api_client.py13:57
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vsaienk0dtantsur, lucasagomes yeah, I also like an idea to have ability execute some debugging commands on bootstrap, it is handy.13:57
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lucasagomesvsaienk0, so I will revive that patch in Ironic for the logs14:05
vsaienk0lucasagomes, thank you!14:05
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lucasagomesthank you for starting this conversation!14:05
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dtantsurjroll, yeah, good catch. we won't test the fallback though (newton ramdisk with mitaka ironic)14:06
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jrollyeah, but neither would a config :)14:07
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vdrokmorning jroll14:07
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vdrokdtantsur: yeah, grenade should be enough :)14:08
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dtantsurjroll, heh, fair. I wonder if we really need this stable ironic + IPA master job14:08
mgoulddtantsur: we can send arbitrary text to syslog14:08
jrolldtantsur: it would be useful :)14:08
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dtantsurok, so I'm deleting this item from the meeting14:09
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mgouldcan we block MAC-spoofing inbound on the controller node using iptables?14:09
jrolldtantsur: \o/14:09
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jrollthat was my goal :P14:09
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dtantsurmgould, for inspection we don't even know MACs14:09
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* mgould saw something about this in Neutron docs at lunchtime but only half-understood it14:10
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dtantsurI'm not sure how well we can block someone using a wrong MAC.. only on switch level14:10
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mgouldah, OK14:11
mgould:-(14:11
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mgouldsecurity is hard14:11
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dtantsurbtw our releases are being processed as we speak14:12
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mgould\o/14:14
thiagopGood morning, Ironic!14:14
thiagopHappy new week14:15
mgouldmorning thiagop14:15
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Extend root device hints to support "rotational"  https://review.openstack.org/33824514:16
rloohi thiagop, mgould, dtantsur, jroll, vdrok, lucasagomes, vsaienk0, TheJulia and everyone else!14:16
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Small refactor in the root device loop matching logic  https://review.openstack.org/33876314:16
dtantsurmorning thiagop, rloo14:17
dtantsurrloo, could you get back to https://review.openstack.org/333311 please? it carries your -214:17
vdrokmorning TheJulia thiagop rloo14:17
jrollhey rloo :)14:17
lucasagomesrloo, hello there14:17
dtantsurI've seen OSC issuing a warning about required switch to osc-lib14:17
rloodtantsur: looking...14:17
mgouldmorning rloo jroll TheJulia14:18
rloodtantsur: so there was an email thread, dean troyer didn't really want folks using osclib yet.14:18
rloodtantsur: he sort of said it was ok if one only used part of what was in osclib.14:18
rloodtantsur: i'd rather not use it until they say it is OK.14:18
dtantsurI think we actually use this part14:18
dtantsurwell, then our users have to see deprecation warnings..14:18
rloodtantsur: the problem with using the 'ok' part is that once we have it, someone may submit a patch using the not-yet-ok part and honestly, i don't want to be policing that.14:19
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic: Add and document the "rotational" root device hint  https://review.openstack.org/33826414:19
rloodtantsur: i think it was premature of the osc folks to be putting warnings if the library isn't ready yet. they should remove the warnings.14:19
dtantsuryeah, things like https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/commit/d324530532d5361e85e784c3df2f0d40a128b149 are happening14:20
dtantsurI also agree that they should get osc-lib 1.0 ready and nice, and then issue warnings14:20
vsaienk0mgould it is possible to filter by mac with specific pattern with ebtables, iptables doesn't support this.14:20
vsaienk0In general mac spoofing is solved at the switches level by enabling dynamic arp inspection http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12-2SX/configuration/guide/book/dynarp.html14:20
rloodtantsur: would you like to send email about that? :)14:20
vsaienk0morning rloo, thiagop14:20
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mgouldvsaienk0: thanks!14:21
dtantsurrloo, well, the position of OSC folks is "use the blessed bits". what do you suggest me to write?14:21
thiagopdtantsur vsaienk0 mgould vdrok o/14:21
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rloodtantsur: that isn't reasonable because it means we have to monitor what bits are blessed.14:21
mgouldvsaienk0: so that's not something we can solve with generic hardware?14:21
mgouldthis all sounds a bit Monty Python14:22
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* dtantsur writes a email to the same thread14:24
vsaienk0mgould: mac-spoofing should be blocked at switch level, there are other realizations, not only dynamic arp inspection, I mean it is not cisco proprietary and already supported by arista, juniper and others. But if access layer switch doesn't support this, there is no other way to effectively deal with it.14:24
rloodtantsur: wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285852 and default_network_interface and driver composition14:25
dtantsuryep14:25
rlooFor hardware types setting <interface_name>_interface field to None means using the vendor default defined in the hardware type. If the vendor default is None, the interface will be disabled.14:25
rloodtantsur: the spec sez: ^^14:25
dtantsurcorrect14:25
rloodtantsur: how would we change it?14:25
rloodtantsur: instead of 'if the vendor default is None, the interface will be disabled'14:26
dtantsurfor things like network interface it's s/vendor/operator/14:26
mgouldrloo: BTW, nova-scheduler meeting is happening now14:26
mgouldI plan to ask about the extra_specs thing when they get to AOB14:26
dtantsurso the operator default is used. if it's None (if it can be None), then the interface is disabled (should not be possible for network interface)14:26
rloomgould: thx for attending and asking!14:26
dtantsurjroll, we might amend the driver composition with ^^^14:27
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vdrokdtantsur: hm, right now default_network_interface can be empty14:27
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rloodtantsur: so hardware types can have interfaces, and interfaces can be vendor specific or operator specific? Or are you saying network_interface is not part of hardware types settings?14:27
vdrokfor backwards compat with dhcp providers :(14:27
dtantsurrloo, that's a good question. we need user-visible interface to be the same and operator-visible interface to be close14:28
dtantsurrloo, I don't think it makes any sense for vendors to declare compatibility with Neutron14:28
dtantsurvdrok, yeah, but then it's value is derived from dhcp providers, right?14:28
openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add 'baremetal' to enabled Neutron  mech. drivers.  https://review.openstack.org/34035514:28
vdrokyup14:29
dtantsurso in a sense there is an operator default14:29
rloodtantsur: so I don't think that network_interface is one of the *_interfaces mentioned in the driver composition. It is totally separate?14:30
rloodtantsur: cuz it isn't related to hardware types at all.14:31
dtantsurrloo, it's not strictly the same. we just want it to look the same from API pov (and partly from configuration pov too)14:31
rloodtantsur: I think we will have confusion if it looks the same from API pov, but isn't the same.14:31
dtantsurconfusion for whom? users will see it the same14:32
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dtantsurand anyway, should we change network_interface field to something different then?14:32
rloodtantsur: well, maybe you can submit a patch to incorporate that with the driver spec, cuz right now, i am confused.14:32
rloodtantsur: yeah, that was what i was going to say. if it is NOT one of the hardware type interfaces, maybe we should rename network_interface to something else.14:33
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dtantsurI can, but would be cool to have some consensus on whether we want it to look similar or not from users perspective14:33
dtantsurhmm..14:33
dtantsurrloo, mind proposing it for today's meeting maybe?14:33
rloodtantsur: ok will add to meeting agenda14:33
dtantsurthanks!14:33
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openstackgerritKyrylo Romanenko proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Negative tests for testing chassis-create command  https://review.openstack.org/32278814:48
Romanenko_KHello, Ruby! I have fixed this patch according to your comments.14:50
rlooRomanenko_K: thx! I'm swamped with stuff, will try to get to it later this week.14:51
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Romanenko_KNo problem :)14:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Remove IBootOperationError exception  https://review.openstack.org/33912714:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Fix two types in ironic.conf.sample  https://review.openstack.org/33891914:53
mgouldrloo: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting-alt/%23openstack-meeting-alt.2016-07-11.log.html#t2016-07-11T14:39:5514:54
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rloomgould: thx. i read that exchange, not totally sure what they are suggesting. clean up the nova code? to do that would mean (I think) not stringifying the capabilities at all.14:55
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mgouldrloo: yes, I think so15:01
mgouldI'll submit a patch to do that and see what reviewers say15:02
rloomgould: so you're going to submit a nova patch that removes the str() part for the first argument to the matcher?15:02
mgouldrloo: yep15:02
rloomgould: (and fix the matcher code in nova)15:02
mgouldyes, and add a test for _satisfies_extra_specs that ensures we're not doing substring matching15:03
rloomgould: ok. then in oslo code, we should add tests for both str() and non str() for all the other operators to make sure they work both ways? except for <all-in> that only works for lists.15:03
mgouldhmmm, good question15:04
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mgouldmaybe you're right that we should stringify *everything* and unstringify if the operator is <all-in>15:04
mgouldbut that seems needlessly horrible15:04
jrollmgould: rloo: oslo meeting in about an hour, btw, if you want to chat with them about things15:05
rloomgould: my opinion is that stringifying everything "now" would be easier than unstringifying everything.15:05
rloomgould: i think unstringifying would be a good exercise to see what/if it matters.15:05
mgouldjroll: 1600 UTC? can't make it, sadly15:06
rloojroll: don't like meetings and already have a meeting then. Damn, i shouldn't have pointed that bug out.15:06
jrolljust letting you know15:06
rloojroll: :)15:06
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mgouldrloo: you mean unstringifying in the implementation of <all-in>?15:07
rloojroll, mgould: I think I messed up the oslo folks cuz they can't release until this is addressed.15:07
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rloomgould: I mean, if we unstringify, we should do it for all.15:07
jrollrloo: things happen, I'm thankful you pointed it out15:07
rloomgould: if in nova code, you don't do the str(), it won't be done for any.15:07
mgouldrloo: and that's what you think I should try?15:07
rloomgould: in nova code, you can't/shouldn't just do it for <all-in>, cuz then you'd have to *know* it was for <all-in>15:07
mgouldOK15:08
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rloomgould: I don't know what you should do. I feel like the nova folks don't quite know (or at least, to know means to spend some time looking/thinking about it and it isn't a high priority thing for them)15:08
mgouldOK15:09
mgouldI'll try stuff and see what breaks15:09
mgouldbut currently this is blocking oslo?15:09
rloomgould: so the bug is that the current code doesn't handle the stringified list properly.15:09
mgouldyes15:09
rloomgould: yes, it is blocking oslo cuz that first patch was merged.15:09
mgouldOK15:09
rloomgould: so either 1. don't stringify it (which means don't stringify any of them); or 2. fix it so it handles a stringified list.15:10
mgouldright, OK15:11
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic: Collect deployment logs from IPA  https://review.openstack.org/33610215:12
* lucasagomes (after the discussion today) rebased ^15:12
dtantsur#pixiesay Please add me to http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots15:13
PixieBootsʕ•͡ᴥ•ʔ: Please add me to http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots15:13
TheJulialol15:14
openstackgerritMiles Gould proposed openstack/ironic: Trivial grammar fixes to the upgrade guide  https://review.openstack.org/34043315:14
mgould^^^ to actually make the docs better, I'll need to talk to someone who understands the process15:14
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lucasagomesdtantsur, awesome15:15
lucasagomesI wonder if Ironic was the first OS to have a mascot15:16
TheJuliadtantsur: looks like we should get pixie boots submitted rather quickly15:16
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* dtantsur responds15:17
vdrokCan we draw our own mascot? No. Project teams select their own mascot, but for the purposes of harmony across all projects, a single illustration style will be used. It will be executed by a designer under direction from the foundation staff.15:17
vdrok:(15:17
TheJulia:(15:17
TheJuliaI just read that part too15:18
vdrokat least we'll still have the bear :)15:18
rloovdrok: , TheJulia: WHOA. How to spend money...15:18
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dtantsurvdrok, wanted to post the same15:19
dtantsurwell, then I'm not interested15:19
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vdrokor we can just make the foundation to hire lucasagomes  as designer :015:20
vdrok:)15:20
dtantsurlol15:20
lucasagomes:-O weekend designer15:20
mgouldso we'd have to replace lucasagomes' drawing on our webpage, T-shirts, etc?15:20
dtantsurI don't think we'll do it15:20
lucasagomesjroll, someone contacted you re mascot?15:20
rloocan we submit our pixie boot and see how *they* render it, and then decide to withdraw or not depending on version 2 of pixie boot?15:21
mgouldrloo: +115:21
dtantsurrloo, yeah, someone (probably jroll) should just drop them a email15:22
mgouldI wouldn't mind having an "on-brand" version of pixie boots in addition, as long as the original isn't airbrushed from history15:22
mgouldwow, nova's test suite takes a long time to run15:23
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lucasagomesrloo, mgould ++15:23
TheJuliaCan my mascot be a human, part of a human (such as a hand), or a human-made object? No. Only things from the natural world, such as animals, plants, fish, bugs, and natural features, may be chosen as a mascot.15:23
lucasagomesyeah, no dragons or unicorns etc15:23
lucasagomesthat's kinda wtf15:23
* lucasagomes a unicorn is a pretty cool mascot15:23
mgouldit works pretty well for Scotland :-)15:24
lucasagomesthat's the oficial animal in scotland isn't it mgould  ?15:24
lucasagomesyeah exactly15:24
mgouldit is, yes15:24
TheJuliaa magical unicorn would be kind of awesome.... just saying15:24
jrolllucasagomes: yeah, heidi reached out, I wanted to mention it in the meeting today, but she said we have first dibs on the bear and they will try to keep it close to pixie boots15:24
mgouldw00t15:25
d0ugallol15:25
dtantsurawesome \o/15:25
jrollbut more in line style wise15:25
lucasagomesjroll, nice one15:25
openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add 'baremetal' to enabled Neutron  mech. drivers.  https://review.openstack.org/34035515:25
lucasagomesthey have the vector file, so they can do pretty much whatever is needed there15:25
jrollthat said, I'm not feeling well and looking for volunteers to run the meeting15:25
dtantsurjroll, if devananda does not show up, I can run it15:25
jrolldtantsur: thanks :)15:25
lucasagomesNobodyCam, devananda dtantsur (or myself if none of the others)15:26
dtantsurbtw #rdo has a tradition of rotation between chairs15:26
jrollsee y'all later/tomorrow15:26
dtantsurso at the end of every meeting a chair for the next one is chosen15:26
dtantsursee you jroll, get better15:26
mgouldjroll: get well soon!15:26
TheJuliaI kind of suspect we won't see NobodyCam today...15:26
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lucasagomesjroll, get well man, see ya tomorrow15:27
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic: [WIP] Add classes for defining hardware types  https://review.openstack.org/33662615:32
dtantsuralineb, fyi ironic-lib with metrics support was released. you can now bump global-requirements and proceed with the ironic bits15:32
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alinebcool, thank you dtantsur!15:33
* mgould -> relocate; should be back in time for the meeting15:34
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vdroklucas-afk: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273684/, you're not enabling iboot driver in the job, are there some problems with it?16:22
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lucas-afkvdrok, oh no we could enable16:36
lucas-afkafaict, lemme take a look16:37
openstackgerritMario Villaplana proposed openstack/ironic: Add power state change notifications  https://review.openstack.org/32186516:37
openstackgerritMario Villaplana proposed openstack/ironic: Add notification base classes and docs  https://review.openstack.org/29846116:37
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JayFjroll: when you're back; I would appreciate a release of ironic-lib so we can get the metrics stuff flowing16:39
JayFalso o/ Ironic, I'm baaacccck! :D16:39
TheJuliaWelcome back JayF16:40
devanandaJayF: welcome back!16:41
JayFdevananda: I'm all up in your state, yo :P16:41
thiagopHey JayF, welcome!16:42
devanandawoot woot :)16:42
devanandaJayF: you should come hang out in seattle some time :p16:42
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JayFRight now I'm mainly happy to have bed to sleep in and chairs to sit in. Going to Seattle is probably going to wait a little while :P16:43
devanandathat's fair. beds and chairs are pretty awesome compared to not having them :)16:43
JayFyeah; I was going to try and not take all last week off while moving ... but I had so much stuff to do, and it was exhausting :/16:43
JayFbut I'm back, unpacked, and raring to go16:44
devanandamoving is exhausting16:44
JayFcatching up on reviews and then going to work on my abstract for a summit talk16:44
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jlvillalsambetts, Isn't there a proposal to have the network switch do a firewall for bare-metal systems?16:44
JayFtopic is going to be around why deployers should make custom hardware managers, and not be intimidated by them, but I haven't thought of a catchy title yet :P16:44
jlvillalsambetts, I think networking, I think sambetts :)16:45
devanandajlvillal: aiui, that is already supported by the neutron integration work16:45
devanandavia security groups // ACLs16:45
jlvillaldevananda, Oh really. So once the multi-tenant work is in place there will be security groups. Cool.16:45
devanandayep16:45
sambettsjlvillal: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Security_Groups_support_for_Baremetal_Deployments16:46
vdrokmorning JayF devananda and jlvillal16:46
jlvillalsambetts, devananda Thanks!16:46
jlvillalHi vdrok16:46
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JayFo/16:46
openstackgerritYossi Ovadia proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Handle diskless hardware connected to remote iscsi  https://review.openstack.org/32780716:46
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jlvillalsambetts, How about bonding nics to a switch?16:50
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sambettsjlvillal: We have a feature called portgroups we're planning to add the Ironic which will allow for those :)16:51
jlvillalsambetts, Ah :)16:52
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dtantsurmorning jlvillal, devananda, JayF16:55
lucasagomesJayF, devananda jlvillal morning16:55
devanandamornin!16:55
jlvillaldtantsur, lucasagomes devananda Hello. Good morning :)16:55
dtantsurdevananda, mind chairing the meeting today? Jim is not feeling well apparently16:56
* jlvillal feels too cheerful for a Monday morning :)16:56
lucasagomesdevananda, not sure if you've seen the ping before but, jroll's feeling a bit under the weather and asked if you could chair the meeting16:56
dtantsurheh16:56
lucasagomesdtantsur, hah ouch16:56
devanandaooh. thanks. I didn't see that16:56
JayFo/16:56
NobodyCamMorning ironic'ers16:56
devanandaNobodyCam: g'morning16:56
NobodyCamWon't be able to make the make the meeting due to hire hire orientation16:57
NobodyCamMorning devananda :-)16:57
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devanandarloo: around?16:58
rloodevananda: yup16:58
devanandagreat :)16:58
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TheJuliaNobodyCam: congrats16:58
vdrokmorning NobodyCam16:58
devanandarloo: looks like your topic is the only one on the agenda, and we were just talking about it in the networking meeting too16:58
jlvillalNobodyCam, ????16:58
devanandaNobodyCam: grats :)16:58
rloodevananda: and you have a solution?16:58
jlvillalNobodyCam, You hired or you are orienting someone?16:59
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dtantsurmorning NobodyCam16:59
devanandarloo: not really, but some ideas16:59
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rloooh, is NobodyCam working for some non-HPE company?!! :D16:59
rloodevananda: ideas are great!16:59
NobodyCamThank you thank you. jlvillal I am starting at Mirantis this morning17:00
jlvillalNobodyCam, Wow!  Awesome :)17:00
rloocongrats NobodyCam!17:00
lucasagomesNobodyCam, cool :-)17:00
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dtantsurNobodyCam, great, as soon as you still work on Ironic ;)17:01
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NobodyCamThank you all :-)afk17:07
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* sambetts crys when he's typing fast because the meeting is carrying on without him and then realises he screwed up his english :'( 17:52
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sambettsdevananda: thats ok, I'll follow up on the ML when the thread starts and hopefully proof read it better too17:53
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TheJuliasambetts: don't cry, it will all be okay17:59
TheJulia:)17:59
sambetts:)17:59
dtantsur:)18:00
dtantsurok, see you tomorrow everyone18:00
sambettso/ dtantsur18:00
lucasagomesrloo, there you go :-)18:00
vdroksambetts: same thing for me usually :)18:00
rloobye dtantsur18:00
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vdroknight dtantsur|afk18:01
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lucasagomeswho's attending the nova midcycle next week from ironic ?18:01
lucasagomesdtantsur|afk, see ya18:01
vdrokthanks rloo for bringing up the networking :)18:01
sambettslucasagomes: jroll is I believe not sure who else18:01
devanandalucasagomes: I will probably be there18:01
thiagopnight dtantsur|afk18:01
mgouldgood night, everyone!18:01
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rloovdrok: yw. want to make sure it gets done in newton!18:01
* vdrok leaves too, good night everyone!18:02
thiagopnight mgould|afk18:02
thiagopnight vdrok18:02
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lucasagomesvdrok, see ya18:15
lucasagomesI'm calling it a day too18:15
lucasagomeshave a great evening all, talk soon18:15
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thiagopgood night lucas|afk18:15
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thiagopFolks, I'm having some difficulty trying to understand a situation here: after booting a server with partition image using my iscsi_pxe_oneview driver, I cannot boot it using agent_pxe_oneview driver. IPA (udev) isn't getting the disks somehow...19:48
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thiagopI have no idea why19:48
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TheJuliaso the pxe driver was with the old ramdisk?19:55
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thiagopTheJulia: I think it was (acidentally) with the coreos ipa ramdisk (freshly build)19:58
thiagopbuilt*19:58
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TheJuliaso both scenarios are with the IPA ramdisk then?19:58
thiagopyep19:58
TheJuliaso IPA heartbeats in both cases, I thought heartbeating required it to find a disk at present20:00
thiagopI don't know if it heartbeats (or how can I see that), but looking into the node screen, I can see that it get stuck on _wait_for_disks20:01
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thiagopIt tries 10 times before yeilding an error saying that no suitable disks were found20:02
TheJuliaugh20:02
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thiagopand apparently, the list of disks is empty by the message20:04
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TheJuliathiagop: so, essentially waiting 30 seconds, attempting 10 times, and then failing?20:06
thiagopTheJulia: yes20:06
TheJuliaand the same ramdisk works for iscsi20:08
thiagopTheJulia: It didn't worked for iscsi either, but since it was an accidental deploy (configuring the iscsi job on the CI), it's not surprising20:09
jrollJayF: ironic-lib was released earlier today, good timing for the request :D https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ironic-lib/2.0.020:09
jrollsambetts: lucas|afk: Jay will also be at nova midcycle20:09
jrollthiagop: are you using cleaning?20:10
jrollor skipping it20:10
thiagopusing, but the clean fails with the same error (since it doesn't find the disk to clean)20:11
jrollthiagop: also, if you log in to the ramdisk can you find the disk?20:11
jrollah20:11
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TheJuliahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/327891/ <-- I wonder if this has something to do with it...20:11
thiagopjroll: I logged using an ubuntu image in recovery mode, the disk is here20:11
jrollinteresting20:11
jrollmaybe try mitaka ramdisk to rule out TheJulia's wonder20:12
TheJulia++20:12
thiagopis there a way to pin the version of coreos via devstack?20:13
Nisha1jroll, need some help wth ironic and inspector configuration20:13
Nisha1means both together20:13
jrollNisha1: ask a question and hopefully someone can help :)20:13
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jrollNisha1: I'm not feeling well today and haven't used inspector much, but I can try20:13
Nisha1jroll, I was trying inband inspection for pxe_ipmitool driver. I used devstack plugins of ironic and ironic-inspector to configure the services20:14
JayFjroll: yeah; that was mentioned at the meeting20:14
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Nisha1jroll, sorry to know. Hope you get well soon20:14
Nisha1jroll, the inspector service by default configures br-inspector20:15
Nisha1with some dhcp range of 172.x.x.x etc20:15
Nisha1our servers cant access this range so it has to be in range of what our servers can access.20:16
Nisha1jroll, i have been trying this from past one week and dhcp doesnt work20:16
Nisha1or more than that20:16
jrollNisha1: I've no idea how to change that but it's likely a config option20:16
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Nisha1jroll, i changed it in dnsmasq.conf of inspector but that doesnt make te dhcp work20:17
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sambettsnight all20:17
Nisha1jroll, i really dont know whome to ask20:17
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thiagopnight sambetts|afk20:17
Nisha1sambetts, night20:17
sambetts|afknight thiagop Nisha120:17
Nisha1sambetts|afk, if you have any idea on above do let me know20:18
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jrollNisha1: dtantsur|afk is the inspector expert, but lots of people know about it20:18
Nisha1jroll, i already asked him but he told that its(plugin) not tested on baremetal but only on a VM acting as baremetal20:19
Nisha1Its all about how to make dhcp work for inspector20:19
Nisha1if that works then other things will work20:19
jrollNisha1: the plugin probably needs some work then20:20
jrollNisha1: alternatively, get access to 172/8 from your hardware20:20
Nisha1jroll, that alternative is not possible20:20
Nisha1its a limitation we have here in our setup20:21
jrollNisha1: sorry to hear that20:21
Nisha1we have all our hw only in 10.x.x.xnetwork20:21
Nisha1it cant access any other IP address20:21
Nisha1ironic works well with neutron20:22
Nisha1but i am unable to make inspector work20:22
mosheleNisha1: I was able to use the inspector with bare metal  when I verified my code on infiniband, maybe I can help. what is the problem exactly?20:24
Nisha1dhcp for inspector is not working moshele20:24
Nisha1moshele, thanks for lending helping hand20:24
TheJuliaNisha1: why does all of your hardware HAVE to be on 10.x space?20:27
TheJuliaerr, well, 10/820:27
Nisha1TheJulia, it was setup initially like that and the setup is accessible to our team only20:28
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moshelejroll: kindly reminder for reviewing  the infiniband spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265635/20:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Trivial grammar fixes to the upgrade guide  https://review.openstack.org/34043320:38
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TheJuliaNisha1: so if the setup is only accessible to you and your team, why can't you use 172.16/12?20:44
TheJuliafor that one dhcp configuration?20:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-lib: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33989320:59
devanandasummary posted to the ML21:01
devanandasorry that took a while - needed to eat lunch and wanted to review the discussion and summarize the points, not just copy/paste21:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-ironicclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/34005121:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33989421:23
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jrollmoshele: noted21:25
jrolldevananda: how dare you21:25
jroll:P21:25
jrollmoshele: approved, thanks for persisting and sorry that's been so painful21:29
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moshelejroll: thanks :)21:29
jrollthank YOU21:29
JayFTHANK you21:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-specs: Adding InfiniBand Support to ironic  https://review.openstack.org/26563521:33
Nisha1jroll, moshele thanks21:35
Nisha1it worked finally with moshele help21:35
Nisha1good night everyone21:35
mosheleNisha1: good night21:35
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Nisha1jroll, the spec https://review.openstack.org/201904 is being there from 2-3 releases. Please could we get this in in Newton21:37
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Nisha1jroll, even this one https://review.openstack.org/338138 which i actually splitted the above one into two specs21:38
Nisha1jroll, it would help if we atleast get reviews on them21:39
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openstackgerritThiago Paiva Brito proposed openstack/python-oneviewclient: Optimizations for setting boot device  https://review.openstack.org/34059322:12
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openstackgerritThiago Paiva Brito proposed openstack/ironic: Onetime boot when set_boot_device isn't persistent  https://review.openstack.org/34059622:19
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openstackgerritThiago Paiva Brito proposed openstack/python-oneviewclient: Optimizations for setting boot device  https://review.openstack.org/34059322:36
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thiagopmjturek1: around?22:51
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