Monday, 2016-06-20

openstackgerrityogananth subramanian proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Exporting Network Interface Product and Vendor ID to Inspector  https://review.openstack.org/33149500:28
openstackgerrityogananth subramanian proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: setting Port's extra field.  https://review.openstack.org/33149600:30
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openstackgerritYibo Cai proposed openstack/ironic: Support multi arch deployment  https://review.openstack.org/32263204:52
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openstackgerritedan david proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Removes the use of mutables as default args  https://review.openstack.org/33146605:52
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openstackgerritedan david proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Removes the use of mutables as default args  https://review.openstack.org/33146606:13
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YiboCaiopenstack jenkins is down? jenkins check in gerrit returns "POST_FAILURE"07:32
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YiboCaii found the notice. server under rebuilding.07:34
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lucasagomesmorning all08:20
phuongnhgood morning all08:20
livelace lucasagomes Hello, I have been waiting for you :)08:21
livelacelucasagomes, What reason for error "No VIFs found for node" ?08:23
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jiangfeihello all,  i want to test the windows image for ironic, but i don't kown how to build windows image, can somebody help?08:27
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livelaceI don't exactly. But I think: 1. you should install windows into virtual machine 2. reset disk controller to default HDD 3. save image to qcow2 format 4. Add this image to glance08:29
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lucasagomeslivelace, was grabbing a coffee sorry... So when Ironic tries to configure the DHCP for that instance (by talking to neutron) and it can't find the VIF (the id for the neutron port)08:31
lucasagomeslivelace, you are using nova aren't you?08:31
jiangfei  liverlace,  thank you.  do this have some document for it ?08:32
lucasagomesjiangfei, so, I'm not sure where you can get the windows images... you probably have to build one urself :-/08:32
lucasagomeslike livelace said is a way08:32
livelacelucasagomes, Please, answer when you aren't busy. I try through: ironic node-set-maintenance-state ${NODE} active + nova boot --flavor baremetal --nic net-id=${ID} test08:34
jiangfei thank you. lucas , but  i want to know whether i need to some others actions?08:35
jiangfei do diskimage-builder support windows image08:36
lucasagomeslivelace, you don't have to do a set-provision-state before, nova will do that for you once it picks the instance08:37
lucasagomeslivelace, when ironic is used with nova, the interface you use to provision a node is all done by the Nova CLI/API08:37
lucasagomesso the same way you would instantiate a VM you do instantiate a Baremetal node08:38
lucasagomesthat's part of the ironic scope, to make deployment of baremetal look&feel like virtual machines08:38
livelacelucasagomes, I tried in many different ways. But stop. I will launch my server.08:40
livelacejiangfei, By this way I cloned windows between different types of servers08:41
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jiangfei  livelace,  nice , ok , i will try it. :)08:44
phuongnhI deploy ironic by devstack, it is reported successfully but I cannot find /etc/ironic/ironic.conf file, the ironic directory is not found in etc directory, please help me to find the file or to test the deployed ironic?08:46
lucasagomesphuongnh, it reported successfully? Strange then, can you see the ironic processes running?08:47
lucasagomes(do a screen -x to attach to the session)08:47
livelacejiangfei, One moment, please. I did:08:47
livelace1. Install windows to VM08:47
livelace2. Reset disk controller to default HDD08:47
livelace3. Save image of HDD with partimage08:47
livelace4. Restore image on servers08:47
livelaceIn your case:08:47
livelace1. Install windows to VM (disk may in qcow2 format)08:47
livelace2. Reset disk controller to default HDD08:47
livelace3. Power down VM08:48
livelace4. Add qcow2 image to glance repository08:48
phuongnhlucasagomes, I have run screen -x and did not found ironic process08:48
lucasagomesphuongnh, are you sure you have ironic plugin for devstack enabled?08:49
lucasagomesphuongnh, do you have "enable_plugin ironic git://git.openstack.org/openstack/ironic" in ur local.conf?08:49
lucasagomesphuongnh, this guide may help you http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/dev/dev-quickstart.html#deploying-ironic-with-devstack08:49
jiangfei livelace, step 2, do we need to set in bois08:50
phuongnhlucasagomes, yes, I have this line: enable_plugin ironic https://git.openstack.org/openstack/ironic08:50
phuongnhlucasagomes, (I changed "git" to "https" becaused of my network enviroment)08:51
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dtantsurMorning Ironic08:52
phuongnhlucasagomes, yes, I followed the link with some additional setting because I want to use iLO and iRMC driver08:53
lucasagomesdtantsur, morning08:53
lucasagomesphuongnh, right, hmm check the devstack log then, see if the service fail to start/configure then please08:53
lucasagomesit seems that it wasn't even configure08:53
lucasagomesa guess here, it may have failed to clone the git repository08:54
livelacelucasagomes, My node, status available https://paste.fedoraproject.org/382027/41282514/08:54
phuongnhlucasagomes, thanks, I will check the log for cloning ironic08:54
lucasagomeslivelace, seems alright08:56
livelacelucasagomes, Nova status https://paste.fedoraproject.org/382028/41298414/08:56
livelacelucasagomes, Neutron with flat network https://paste.fedoraproject.org/382029/66413087/08:58
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livelacelucasagomes, glance images https://paste.fedoraproject.org/382030/46641315/08:59
lucasagomeslivelace, it looks fine, when you do a "nova boot..." (without setting provision-state to active before) what error do you get?09:00
livelacelucasagomes, It's new today https://paste.fedoraproject.org/382031/66413299/09:01
openstackgerritSaravanan KR proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Provide a mechanism to configure kernel boot parameters  https://review.openstack.org/33156409:01
lucasagomeslivelace, yeah nova always report that error due the retry filter, you may want to take a look at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/deploy/troubleshooting.html#nova-returns-no-valid-host-was-found-error09:02
phuongnhlucasagomes, thanks, I am checking it09:07
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livelacelucasagomes, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/382034/66414007/09:13
livelaceWas memory mismatch09:13
livelaceThis log from nova on compute node09:14
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livelaceOh, moment09:16
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dtantsurlucasagomes, could you please review the driver composition reform today https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188370/ ? got +2 from jim09:24
dtantsur(no need to approve yet, just please review)09:25
lucasagomeswill do, added to the list09:25
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livelacelucasagomes, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/382043/66415357/09:36
livelacelucasagomes, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/382044/66415480/09:38
livelacelucasagomes, What is him need ?09:38
livelaceipmi_sim from openimpi09:41
openstackgerritSaravanan KR proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Provide a mechanism to configure kernel boot parameters  https://review.openstack.org/33156409:41
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parlosGood Morning Ironic!09:53
sambetts|afkMorning all09:55
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dtantsurmorning parlos, sambetts and everyone else09:56
dtantsurso many people here in the morning :) a midcycle day?09:56
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* parlos thinks there is 'additional' lag/delay in client today.09:57
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sambettsdtantsur: Morning, /me is going to be pretty slow on here leading up to the midcycle because of getting downstream stuff finisihed so I can focus on Midcycle09:58
dtantsurtake your time, the gate is broken anyway :D09:59
sambetts\o/09:59
sambettsdtantsur: whats broken us?09:59
dtantsursambetts, see $TOPIC09:59
sambettsdtantsur: ooooh, heh, well at least its not our fault haha10:00
dtantsurlol true10:00
dtantsurtripleo CI is also broken, so I guess I'll keep hacking10:00
dtantsursambetts, when you get rid of downstream stuff, please rereview the driver composition spec. it's close to the finish10:01
sambettsdtantsur: Yup, its not top on my list of things to rereview  :D10:01
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dtantsurawesome10:02
mgouldmorning Ironic10:02
sambettsmorning mgould10:02
dtantsurhey mgould. ready for the midcycle?10:02
mgoulddtantsur: ready as I'll ever be...10:02
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dtantsurheh10:03
mgouldif anyone feels like a really easy review, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329898/ needs another +210:03
mgouldtrivial docs patch, finally passing CI10:03
dtantsurmgould, as soon as the gate comes back...10:03
mgouldgate down again? Dammit10:03
dtantsurmgould, yeah, see the channel topic10:05
dtantsureven specs and docs sites are down >_<10:05
dtantsurmeh, it's so annoying to navigate in hexchat after vim..10:05
* dtantsur should probably switch to some console irc client one day10:05
* mgould finds the "display long topic" command in irssi10:07
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mgouldit's /lastlog -topics, if you were wondering10:07
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hkominosgood day everybody10:07
dtantsurhi hkominos10:08
openstackgerritSaravanan KR proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Provide a mechanism to configure kernel boot parameters  https://review.openstack.org/33156410:08
dtantsurmgould, I wonder if hexchat allows switching between channels with a command..10:08
dtantsurespecially across servers10:08
livelaceCool, ironic try to send raw command to ipmi_sim, which doesn't support this types of commands10:08
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/ironic: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/31844010:11
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/ironic: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/31844010:11
livelace"no vif port for node" raise only if two network exist, and I should set it clearly10:11
mgouldmorning hkominos10:13
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lucasagomeslivelace, oh strange, that's about disabling a certain timeout10:15
* lucasagomes looks at the code10:15
lucasagomeshttps://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/ipmitool.py#L884-L89010:16
* lucasagomes wonders if we should try..catch and ignore if that fails10:16
dtantsurhmm, maybe worth giving pyghmi a try?10:17
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livelacelucasagomes, I tried disable timeout in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ironic/drivers/modules/irmc/management.py10:19
livelaceBut no luck yet10:19
lucasagomeslifeless, irmc?10:19
livelacelucasagomes, Yes10:19
lucasagomeslifeless, sorry wrong ping10:20
lucasagomeslivelace, are you using fujitsu hardware then?10:20
livelacelucasagomes, No, I use bunch of ipmi_sim + qemu ipmi device10:21
lucasagomeslivelace, ok, and the driver are you are using is the pxe_ipmitool ? Cause that module you send if from the irmc (fujitsu) driver10:21
lucasagomeslivelace, try to comment out these lines here https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/ipmitool.py#L884-L89010:22
livelacelucasagomes, I'm doing this, I just did find  /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ironic/ -type f -exec grep -Hi '0x00 0x08 0x03 0x08' {} \; and comment all :)10:23
lucasagomes:-) right10:23
livelaceNo luck, but I tried!10:26
livelaceCommand: ipmitool -I lanplus -H 10.0.101.3 -L ADMINISTRATOR -U admin -R 12 -N 5 -f /tmp/tmp_DmSHQ chassis bootdev pxe options=persistent10:26
livelaceipmi_sim - very simple thing for that purpose10:26
livelaceIt's not understand many of these commands10:26
livelaceBut stop ...10:28
lucasagomeslivelace, perhaps the qemu ipmi device does not understand many of this commands?10:32
lucasagomesI know it's a new thing, last time I looked at it (~5 months ago) only the base code was merged in qemu10:32
livelacelucasagomes, Maybe, I don't know completely ipmi_sim and qemu ipmi device, their roles and features10:33
lucasagomeslivelace, are you still using ovirt?10:33
livelaceNo, I shift to custom gentoo installation, but I'm working with ovirt virtual disks10:34
lucasagomesright10:34
milanmorning Ironic :)10:35
lucasagomeslivelace, perhaps trying virtualbmc instead of ipmi_sim + qemu10:35
livelace... I completely mask bootdev parameter, because I always boot through net10:35
lucasagomesqemu ipmi driver*10:35
livelacelucasagomes, Maybe, but virtualbmc also very weak and crashed when I tested it10:35
lucasagomes:-/ if that happens, please open a bug against it10:37
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lucasagomesbecause it's part of the ironic project umbrealla10:37
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livelacec93cf833-766d-452d-b65b-74d2f0b55f84 | liberty-baremetal1 | 0e4ca088-01f0-42bc-b01b-2ca606158235 | power off   | deploying          | False10:41
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livelace:)10:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Document testing an in-review patch with devstack  https://review.openstack.org/32989810:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Replace dict.get(key) in drivers/modules/*/ tests  https://review.openstack.org/33083810:51
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lucasagomeslivelace, worked?10:58
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livelacelucasagomes, Almost, tftp problems, but it will be done soon :)10:59
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lucasagomescool11:00
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dtantsurmilan, (continuing from downstream channel) ironic does support ephemeral drives, though "ephemeral" has the opposite meaning in ironic11:03
dtantsurmilan, i.e. ephemeral partitions in ironic survive rebuild11:03
milanhuh11:04
sambettsdtantsur: unless cleaning is enabled right?11:05
milandtantsur, so it's kind of a separate physical drive?11:05
* milan confused11:05
dtantsursambetts, cleaning is not run during rebuild (if you use rebuild command, not delete->deploy)11:05
dtantsurmilan, separate partition11:05
sambettsdtantsur: oooh I see, I wonder if we should do that or not...11:06
dtantsurmilan, note that "rebuild" is a command on its own, I don't mean delete then deploy11:06
milanhmmmmm11:07
lucasagomesdtantsur, milan just a correction there... it doesn't mean the opposite in ironic11:07
lucasagomesin the flavor you can have an ephemeral partition11:07
dtantsurmmm? iirc in nova ephemeral partitions are destroyed on every reboot or something like that11:07
dtantsurbut I may be terribly wrong11:07
lucasagomesjust like swap, BUT, nova has a flag called "preserve_ephemeral"11:08
lucasagomeswhich then, if set to True, preserves it between rebuilds11:08
dtantsuraha, that's what I'm missing11:08
milanbtw this is my traceback from the Mitaka part of my grenade stack: http://paste.openstack.org/show/520584/11:08
dtantsurthanks lucasagomes11:08
lucasagomesnp11:08
* dtantsur is also confused by our partitioning11:08
lucasagomesyeah, it's a bit of a mess indeed :-)11:08
milanit happens during tempest sanity before any upgrades11:09
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dtantsurmilan, "whole disk image" I guess is not intended, so there is something wrong about the way the image is stored in glance11:09
dtantsurmilan, to be precise, kernel and ramdisk attributes are not set11:09
milanso, dtantsur, the ephemeral disk in localrc devstack shouldn't be an issue?11:10
milanhuh11:10
milansounds like my localrc needs more attention or what11:10
dtantsurmilan, I guess you can take a localrc from a successful ironic grenade run, and then modify it to your needs11:11
milandtantsur, that's what I've though I've been doing :-/11:11
dtantsurold: http://logs.openstack.org/18/330018/6/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-ironic-nv/9bbc21f/logs/old/localrc.txt.gz11:11
dtantsurnew: http://logs.openstack.org/18/330018/6/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-ironic-nv/9bbc21f/logs/new/localrc.txt.gz11:12
milandtantsur, thx11:12
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* milan diffs11:12
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livelaceWhat default password for coreos deploy image ?11:19
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livelaceMy deployment is staying in "wait call-back"11:20
milandtantsur, http://paste.openstack.org/show/520588/ old diff (a is upstream ironic, b is my inspector localrc)11:21
milan* grep -i ironic was applied11:21
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milandtantsur, but you seem to be right about something being wrong with my conf; I remember seeing a No such file or directory on the screen log of the BM--VM ipxe booting11:23
dtantsurhmm11:25
dtantsurlivelace, there is no default password; you can put your public key when building an image though11:26
* milan hates trial and error 11:26
dtantsurlivelace, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic-python-agent/#customizing-the-image11:26
milan*meaning feeling helpless as I don't understand what's going on11:27
dtantsuroh11:28
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livelacedtantsur, Ok, thanks. But where are keys for prebuilt version of CoreOS ?11:32
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* lucas-hungry brb, will be back to the midcycle 11:33
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/ironic: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/31844011:37
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dtantsurlivelace, there are no keys on prebuilt images11:41
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dtantsurmy new bass has arrived to the local shop, I'll be back in an hour or so ^_^11:43
sambetts \o/ new toys11:43
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dtantsur:)11:44
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TheJulialivelace: you can also add sshkey=keyvalue in your pxe config and once it is booted up you can ssh in as the core user11:48
TheJuliapxe config as in kernel boot command like arguments11:48
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sambettslivelace: or "coreos.autologin=tty0" (tty0 / tty1 / ttyS0 depending on your setup) to make coreos autologin so you can access via console11:50
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livelaceTheJulia, sambetts Cool, thanks. It more flexible than add ssh_keys to docker image11:57
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xavierrgood morning Ironic :)12:36
mgouldmorning xavierr12:37
xavierrguys, which client you use for join the audio conference?12:37
xavierrthe mid cycle, I mean12:38
sambettsjitsi12:38
xavierrroger that12:38
sambettshttps://jitsi.org/12:38
xavierrthank you and good morning sambetts :)12:38
sambettsMorning xavierr12:39
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openstackgerritgaryk proposed openstack/ironic: Docs: Fix some typos in the documentation  https://review.openstack.org/33165312:41
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openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Adding InfiniBand Support to ironic  https://review.openstack.org/26563512:43
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mat128good morning ironic :)13:02
sambettsMorning mat12813:02
mat128congratulations, sambetts :party:13:02
sambetts\o/ thanks :D13:02
openstackgerritBrad P. Crochet proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Add maintenance mode commands  https://review.openstack.org/21672713:03
openstackgerritBrad P. Crochet proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Add provision state commands  https://review.openstack.org/20611913:03
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/ironic: Fail early if ramdisk type is dib, and not building  https://review.openstack.org/32824613:08
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jrollmorning everyone13:14
sambettsMorning jroll :)13:15
jrollsambetts: hey, you have a trello account?13:15
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openstackgerritBrad P. Crochet proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Add maintenance mode commands  https://review.openstack.org/21672713:19
openstackgerritBrad P. Crochet proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Add provision state commands  https://review.openstack.org/20611913:19
xavierrmorning jroll13:21
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dtantsurmorning TheJulia, xavierr, mat128, jroll13:25
mat128morning dtantsur, jroll13:25
nicodemosmorning xavierr, dtantsur, TheJulia, jroll13:25
xavierrmorning dtantsur nicodemos o/13:26
dtantsursambetts, congratulations on expanding your +2 powers :)13:29
sambettsdtantsur: :D thanks13:29
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* TheJulia needs coffee... lots of coffee13:31
xavierrwowww congrats sambetts :D13:32
xavierr+213:32
sambettsthanks xavierr13:32
openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Add generic LLDP processing hook  https://review.openstack.org/32108213:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Removes the use of mutables as default args  https://review.openstack.org/33145513:40
dtantsursambetts, the new toy: https://www.instagram.com/p/BG4MFI0yG9q/ :)13:40
sambettsdtantsur: oooooo pretty13:41
openstackgerritAndre Aranha proposed openstack/python-oneviewclient: Refactored to_oneview_dict method in models.py  https://review.openstack.org/33167313:41
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Support LLDP data as part of interfaces in inventory  https://review.openstack.org/32058413:43
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jrolldtantsur: nice!13:47
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jrolldtantsur: oh, can we talk about driver comp reform for a moment? :)13:52
jrollspecifically https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188370/18/specs/approved/driver-composition-reform.rst@20313:52
jrollI agree we should reset *_interface, but I think if a dynamic driver is given, we should set hardware_type13:52
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dtantsurjroll, I don't have a strong opinion on setting hardware_type, I guess.. except it could signal users with new API that the driver was set via old API13:54
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jrolldtantsur: I feel like the new API and old API should have the same end state in the DB, when driver is set with a hardware type13:55
jroller, s/hw type/dynamic driver/13:55
jrollin the new api,13:56
jrollSetting the ``driver`` field to a *hardware type* causes the13:56
jroll    ``hardware_type`` field to be updated to the same value.13:56
jrollI think that should be the same in the old api13:56
dtantsurjroll, I feel pretty strongly about cleaning *_interface in the old API; otherwise it's fine with me13:56
jrolldtantsur: no, I agree with that13:56
NobodyCammorning Ironicers ...13:56
jrollohai NobodyCam13:56
jrollTGI midcycle day? :P13:57
NobodyCam:)13:57
NobodyCamlol13:57
dtantsurjroll, ok, cool. I'll update this part if I happen to create another changeset13:57
dtantsurmorning NobodyCam13:57
dtantsurmidcycle is in an hour, right?13:57
NobodyCammorning jroll dtantsur sambetts TheJulia13:57
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mgouldmorning NobodyCam jroll TheJulia13:58
TheJuliagood morning says the exhausted crazy lady13:58
jrolldtantsur: indeed13:58
NobodyCammorning mgould13:58
* mgould realises he forgot to add an hour for daylight savings again13:59
mgouldcurses!13:59
sambettsmgould: haha me too ...13:59
mgouldI'll have to miss the last hour of the midcycle at least today, sorry :-(14:00
* sambetts was like there aren't many people in the call for it being 15:00 14:00
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mgouldheh14:00
openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/ironic: Fix invalid chassis/nodes/chassis_uuid API url  https://review.openstack.org/31614914:01
openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/ironic: Fix all possible node subresources routing collisions  https://review.openstack.org/31576614:01
openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/ironic: Prevent URL collisions with sub-controllers: nodes/ports  https://review.openstack.org/31451414:01
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sambettsheh14:02
TheJulialooks like we're not starting for another hour?14:03
TheJuliathat, or the computers are lying to me14:03
mat128thought it was in an hour?14:03
mgouldTheJulia: yep14:03
TheJuliaOk, thats what I thought, apparently I looked at the wrong offset number... silly daylight savings time :(14:03
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mat128http://time.unitarium.com/utc/1514:03
mgouldTheJulia: you have 57 minutes to go back to bed14:03
mat128TheJulia: and back14:03
mat128;)14:03
mgouldTheJulia: me too, though in my case that offset is 0 half the year14:03
NobodyCamoh poop14:03
mgouldmat128: office sleeping bags for the win?14:04
* mgould has actually gone home for the afternoon14:04
mat128mgould: does it count if you work from home half the time?14:04
mgouldmat128: I think that counts as excellent forward planning14:04
TheJuliaMy bed is not far from my present location.... actually, I think both beds old and new are about the same distance from where I'm sitting14:05
mat128TheJulia: <3 new beds, always comfy :)14:05
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jrolldate -u, folks :P14:07
mgouldTIL, thanks :-)14:08
mgouldbrb14:08
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jlvillalGood morning Ironic14:10
dtantsurmorning jlvillal14:11
jlvillalCongrats sambetts and JayF on it being official, your core status :)14:11
NobodyCammorning jlvillal14:12
sambettsjlvillal: thanks :D14:12
rloohappy Solstice everyone, jlvillal, dtantsur, NobodyCam, mgould, jroll, TheJulia, sambetts, mat12814:12
dtantsurmorning rloo14:12
* dtantsur googles a new word14:12
cineramahi rloo14:12
NobodyCammorning rloo cinerama14:13
jrollrloo: oh, didn't realize that was today, good morning :)14:13
rlooand congrats sambetts. Although really, thank you for helping with this burden of reviewing!14:13
rloodtantsur: summer solstice14:13
sambettsheh thanks rloo :D14:13
rloogood morning cinerama14:13
jrolldtantsur: summer solstice is the most sunlight of the year, winter solstice is the least14:13
dtantsurgot it, thanks14:13
rlooapparently a full moon too. a rare occurrence i think.14:14
jrolland so begins my west facing window at my desk blinding me earlier and earlier for the next six months :)14:14
sambettsrloo: yeah, a full low moon, they are calling it Strawberry Moon on the news here14:15
TheJuliagood morning rloo14:15
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rloosambetts: oh, interesting. enjoy your strawberry moon :)14:16
sambettsrloo: :D14:16
jrollmmmm strawberries14:18
* jroll gets food before midcycle starts14:18
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openstackgerritRuby Loo proposed openstack/ironic: Replace dict.get(key) in drivers unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/33085214:19
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NobodyCammorning lucasagomes :)14:25
lucasagomesNobodyCam, hey there, morning14:25
NobodyCamhehehe14:26
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rbartaldtantsur, vdrok Hi, I have a question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-ironicclient/+bug/158833914:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1588339 in python-ironicclient "[RFE] A command to import Ironic resources from a file" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Vladyslav Drok (vdrok)14:47
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rbartaldtantsur, vdrok  the functionality as I understand is implemented in OSC 'openstack baremetal import --json instackenv.json'14:49
dtantsurrbartal, no, it's using its own weird format and has several features we don't want in ironicclientr14:49
dtantsurrbartal, also it's not in ironicclient14:49
sambettsit comes from tripleo14:49
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mgouldmorning jroll rloo14:50
rbartaldtantsur, sambetts I understand the 'weird format' but would it not be for the best if we can use the same inventory file in both cases? ironicclient and tripleO?14:51
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lucasagomessomeone at the conference call already? (/me wants to test his mic)14:53
sambettslucasagomes: yup14:53
sambettslucasagomes: I can hear you but your super lound14:53
sambettsloud*14:53
lucasagomesmaybe it's me sounding really bad14:53
mat128someone is *extra* loud14:53
mat128breaking my VU meter needles :)14:53
mat128whoever is talking now is clipping14:54
sambettslucasagomes: you need to turn your levels down :-p14:54
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lucasagomestrying14:54
lucasagomeshah14:54
sambetts;)14:54
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jrollwoo, the system works14:55
mat128someone uses speakers I think14:56
* sambetts is listening to jitsi in one ear but is muted because I'm in another call for 5 mins 14:56
jrollhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-midcycle14:57
dtantsurrbartal, well, we can't adapt to anyone inventing incompatible bicycles14:58
dtantsurrbartal, we had a format defined long before: it's the format we return from our API14:58
rbartaldtantsur, but we can ask for compatibility, + in case we have the same format triplio can simply pass the file to ironicclient and we will do the rest. it will work for them too14:59
dtantsurrbartal, I think tripleo should become compatible, not we. and I'm slowly working on it actually15:00
rbartaldtantsur, I agree, lets talk about it tomorrow and see if I can help15:01
sambettslucasagomes: your a little quiet now15:01
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TheJulia\o/ for volume tuning15:02
sambetts\o/15:02
lucasagomessambetts, ouch15:02
jrollfyi we'll be in this irc channel, and *not* -sprint15:02
jrollthere was a conflict with another virtual sprint later in the week15:02
NobodyCam:)15:02
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rloocinerama: you're a bit loud15:03
cineramarloo, thanks15:04
dtantsurI'd anyway prefer this channel15:04
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NobodyCamits my headset15:04
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lintan_good evening guys15:04
NobodyCamI have another I can grab if its bad15:04
TheJuliaNobodyCam: seems like more than would just be your headset :)15:04
NobodyCamevening lintan_15:04
rloonight lintan_15:05
mgouldevening lintan_15:05
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lintan_:)15:05
rloooh, evening lintan_. are you joining us?15:05
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lintan_Yes, I will rloo15:05
rloolintan_: great!15:05
mrdaGood morning15:06
NobodyCamwowo morning mrda15:07
jrollwhoa, hey mrda :D15:07
mrdahey, so we're in room 7777?15:07
mgouldmrda yep15:07
cineramamrda: das keyboard is on the gaming pc here :)15:07
* NobodyCam installed the New Doom this weekend15:08
mrdacinerama: https://codekeyboards.com/15:08
jrollhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-midcycle15:08
lucasagomeslintan_, hey there :-)15:08
jrollmrda++15:08
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NobodyCamno regular meeting today!15:09
lintan_Hey lucasagomes :)15:09
mgouldmrda: looks nice15:09
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jrollhttps://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-newton-priorities15:10
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mat128#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bug/152640315:12
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mat128https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/ironic-networks-support15:18
mrdathanks mat12815:19
mat128np :) trying to post links as discussion goes so everyone can follow15:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Docs: Fix some typos in the documentation  https://review.openstack.org/33165315:20
mat128but jroll is pretty much reading thru trello, and links are in there15:20
jrollhttps://trello.com/c/ckqtq3kG/16-openstackclient-plugin-for-ironic15:25
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jrollhttps://trello.com/c/MD8HNcwJ/17-notifications15:28
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jrollhttps://trello.com/c/P5q3Es2z/15-keystone-policy-support15:29
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jrollhttps://trello.com/c/XtPGyHcP/18-software-metrics15:30
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jrollhttps://trello.com/c/nfqe3yhd/26-ci-make-grenade-voting15:31
jrollhttps://trello.com/c/fTya14y6/14-driver-composition15:32
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jrollhttps://review.openstack.org/33001815:34
dtantsurspec: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/not-implemented/agent-api.html15:34
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mat128https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306092/15:40
mat128https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204641/15:40
jlvillalI can't understand TheJulia :(15:42
mat128same, skips15:42
mat128thoguht it was just me15:42
NobodyCamvery choppy15:43
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TheJuliatl;dr regarding boot from volume, we're dependent upon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200496/ and the related code.  The boot from volume spec was also updated last week and we need reviews.15:43
TheJuliageneric boot from volume support: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294995/15:44
TheJuliaAny questions?15:44
jrollsounds like just needs review bandwidth right now, yeah?15:44
dtantsurTheJulia, could you please ensure that the thing does not conflict with the driver composition?15:44
rlooi think the boot from volume is in pretty good shape. TheJulia, do you think we can get the generic-boot-from-volume-support approved if we spend 30  min on it this midcycle?15:44
mat128jroll: sounds like it15:45
NobodyCamis davidlenwell here?15:45
dtantsur(maybe it doesn't, I didn't review it recently)15:45
jrollany big questions/blockers in the specs themselves?15:45
TheJuliajroll: yes, dtantsur: it is up on my screen and thus far I've not seen anything, but I'm not done reviewing driver composition in it's current state yet15:45
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rloodtantsur: might be good if you reviewed them. i reviewed but didn't notice any conflict but i could have missed.15:45
dtantsurI'll review for sure15:45
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TheJuliadtantsur: thank you15:46
dtantsurthey should not depend on each other, just lets make sure we don't commit to API we're going deprecate in a week :) everything else is fixable15:46
mat128TheJulia: if you speak soft enough it sounds fine :)15:47
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jlvillalTheJulia, Are you doing SIP or dial-in?  Just curious if that has any impact. I'm on SIP15:47
TheJuliaI'm on SIP :\15:47
jlvillalWeird15:47
NobodyCamsip here too15:47
jrollhttps://trello.com/c/GAlhSzLm/2-rolling-upgrades-and-grenade-partial15:47
TheJuliaAnd I've used this yeadset quite a bit... and never had any problem :(15:48
mat128TheJulia: worst case, google hangouts free calls to USA -> PSTN -> pbx.openstack.org15:48
cineramai dialled in because jitsi was being frustrating15:48
mat128TheJulia: sounds just like bandwidth issue, not microphone15:48
TheJuliamat128: yeah, I'm now starting to get choppy inbound audio :(15:48
dtantsurthe last time everything was fine with me, but then I suddenly started to break up. and then suddenly stopped15:48
dtantsurso it's kind of random15:48
jlvillalAre we discussing grenade? Or is this Soft Power off?15:48
mat128jlvillal: partial grenade15:49
rloorolling upgrades15:50
rloobut multi-node-grenade is the hard part i think15:50
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rloojlvillal: when you get a chance, could you update the description for the multi-node grenade (used to be partial) trello card: https://trello.com/c/pnpqwBYG/27-ci-make-multi-node-grenade-job-work15:52
jlvillalrloo, Doing some editing now. Thanks15:52
rloothx jlvillal15:52
jlvillalsambetts, Maybe we can start meeting afternoon for you and morning for me. To discuss the work. After the mid-cycle is done.15:54
jlvillalsambetts, Thanks for volunteering! :)15:54
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mat128jlvillal: I'd like / can help with multi-node stuff, not an OVS expert but extensive networking experience15:55
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jlvillalmat128, Sweet :)  We need to start figuring out how we can do the "multi-node" testing for Ironic. Nova does it currently.15:56
sambettsjlvillal: mid-cycle finishes at 21:00 for me, perhaps we can setup a work session during the midcycle itself, or a hangout later in the week?15:56
jlvillalsambetts, I was thinking on Thursday.15:56
sambettsjlvillal: oh sure!15:56
jlvillalsambetts, After the mid-cycle. The entire mid-cycle :)15:56
sambettsYeah totally15:57
mgouldah, so is the problem that using the one in oslo means we'd have to be identical to what's in Nova and we don't want to be?15:57
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Sukhdev_jroll, sambetts: with sprint going on, do we want to have our meeting?16:00
jlvillalSings "Nova Style" to the tune of "Gangnam Style"16:00
NobodyCamSukhdev_: no regular meeting16:00
jrollSukhdev_: I won't be there :)16:00
sambettsSukhdev_: I won't be around16:00
mat128jlvillal: Oppa Nova Style :)16:00
jlvillal:)16:01
mgouldthe nova syntax is pretty horrible, it's true16:01
Sukhdev_OK - I'll cancel it then16:01
jrollhttps://trello.com/c/PwH1pexJ/23-rescue-mode16:01
jlvillalSukhdev_, Ironic mid-cycle now :)16:01
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Sukhdev_jlvillal: understood - thanks16:02
sambettsSukhdev_: we've got a big topic to cover the networking stuff during the midcycle, not sure when it'll be yet16:02
Sukhdev_sambetts : please ping me when you get there - I would like to participate in that part16:03
sambettsSukhdev_: totally16:04
jrollhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/296867/16:04
NobodyCamhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/326382/16:05
livelaceOk, return to ironic :)16:06
jlvillalCan people mute who aren't talking? There is some sort of hum16:06
jlvillalHum gone. Thanks :)16:07
livelacejlvillal, Do you have audio conference ?16:07
jlvillallivelace, Yep!16:08
dtantsurlivelace, a virtual midcycle16:08
mat128livelace: midcycle right now :)16:08
dtantsurlivelace, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-midcycle16:08
jlvillallivelace, ^^^16:08
jlvillalTop of the page16:08
mat128https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-midcycle16:08
mat128too slow :X16:08
jlvillallivelace, Line 1316:08
livelaceCool. I would like to heard in the future. But at the moment I should improve my skills with deploy images :)16:10
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TheJuliaI was planning on doing it16:11
TheJuliaquesiton: I remember a discussion on where16:12
TheJuliadoes anyone remember where it would be useful to inject it's use16:12
dtantsurjroll, please move the card to in progress as well16:12
TheJuliaI remember we discussed it during the last midcycle16:12
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NobodyCam++16:15
jlvillal+116:15
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dtantsurthrash, hi! in additional to patches you already have to ironicclient, do you plan on adding other OSC commands? e.g. the remaining port commands?16:15
TheJuliame is going to dial in16:15
TheJuliadoh16:15
mgouldcool, see you all in 15 :-)16:16
jrollsukhdev: we'll be chatting about networks in 15 minutes16:16
rlooat some point maybe during midcycle, might be good to review/reprioritize. i am concerned there is too much to do in this cycle.16:16
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rlooi mean review the order of priorities. esp with the "smaller" features included.16:17
sukhdevjroll: cool...i'll hang around16:17
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dtantsurrloo++ I hope we can do everything (maybe without multicompute) with our bigger core team though16:29
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rloodtantsur: yeah, hope. based on what we've managed to get done in past cycles, i am very doubtful (realistic?) that it won't all get done.16:29
dtantsurwe just got 2 more cores :)16:30
NobodyCammight be a minute or three late16:30
dtantsursambetts, interesting point about making invalid interface a validation kind of errors16:30
rloodtantsur: unless all/most of the cores up the number of reviews, and/or we can somehow get the code quality/etc up'd by the submitters sooner/faster.16:30
* jroll needs about two more minutes, coffee isn't done16:31
sambettsdtantsur: I think that would be better because if I need to change one node to a different hardware type (hopefully shouldn't really happen if we've designed it right) then I might end up with a 10 line node-update including the hardware type, the interfaces and the driver_info updates to make it work16:32
sambettsif we can do it with multiple calls and use the validation process I think it'll be a little more human friendly16:33
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dtantsursambetts, both your comments make a lot of sense, I need to think about them with fresh head :)16:33
dtantsurmaybe also get more opinions. so I won't update right away. but thanks for reviewing!16:34
sambettsdtantsur: totally :) I think we should have a break out at some point maybe?16:34
dtantsurmaybe16:35
mgould+116:35
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mat128https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206244/16:35
mat128109 revisions :D16:36
rloomat128: lots of rebases!16:36
mat128rloo: yeah I guess, just impressive by the number of revisions :)16:37
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sambettsFor a list of all the patches for networking: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-midcycle16:37
sambettssorry wrong link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-neutron-mid-cycle16:38
sambettscorrect link ^16:38
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lucasagomesjroll, off-topic, rfe for extended root device hints updated ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1561137 )16:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561137 in Ironic "[RFE] Add support for operators on root device hints" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Lucas Alvares Gomes (lucasagomes)16:47
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jrollhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/213262/115/ironic/drivers/modules/agent_base_vendor.py16:48
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sambettshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/317392/6/ironic/api/controllers/v1/node.py16:51
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jrollhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/285852/54/ironic/drivers/modules/deploy_utils.py16:52
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thrashdtantsur: yes.. I've been holding off just because rebasing all of these changes has been a pain.17:06
* NobodyCam is only able to attend today and tomorrow17:06
thrashdtantsur: and others are free to start submitting other commands if they like.17:06
thrashdtantsur: especially since we have a spec to follow17:07
dtantsurack, thanks for update17:07
dtantsurrloo, ^^^17:07
rloodtantsur, thrash: thx!17:07
thrashdtantsur: we do need to resolve the conflict in the last patch17:07
thrashdtantsur: we can't use 'baremetal node set maintenance'17:08
thrashit overlaps with baremetal node set17:08
thrashwhich is something that I believe used to work, but no longer does.17:08
dtantsurouch17:08
dtantsurthrash, so we either extend the existing 'set' command or swap the words: 'baremetal node maintenance set'17:09
dtantsurrloo, wdyt ^^^?17:09
rloodtantsur: I think... sigh. I have to look at the existing commands again and think about it. give me a few.17:10
dtantsursure17:11
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rloodtantsur, thrash: we also had 'openstack baremetal node set console <uuid>17:12
rloodtantsur, thrash: and node set boot-device17:12
thrashdtantsur: right17:12
thrashrloo: yes17:12
rloothrash: is the conflict cuz of expecting <uuid>?17:13
thrashrloo: i think so, yeah. If there were no positional args, it would probably work.17:13
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Sukhdev_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/159424217:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1594242 in Ironic "[RFE] Security Groups support for baremetal servers" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Sukhdev Kapur (sukhdev-8)17:15
dtantsurrloo, correct. we had the same problem with 'node create port' or something like that17:15
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Sukhdev_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27785317:19
rloodtantsur, thrash: it seems to me that 'node maintenance set' might make more sense than 'node set maintenance'. what i'm trying to remember is why we came up with the latter. and how someone knows to do 'node set17:20
rloodtantsur, thrash: vs 'node maintenance set' or 'node set maintenance' or 'node X set'...17:20
dtantsur'set' is a swiss knife of the OSC world :)17:21
dtantsurI don't think node X set is something people in OSC do at all17:21
dtantsur(if X here means UUID, I mean)17:21
rloodtantsur: heh. So i looked at this page, and i see (no idea if it is similar to our usecase): 'object store account set' (dunno if 'object set store account' made sense there) http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-openstackclient/command-list.html17:22
rloodtantsur: X was for something, not not-uuid.17:23
dtantsurrloo, the problem here is that there is such a thing as 'object store account'. but 'baremetal node maintenance' is not a first class object. I guess it's fine...17:23
rloodtantsur: if we had to do it from scratch (which we are doing in osc), what should it be?17:24
thrashrloo: dtantsur if you think of 'baremetal node maintenance' as the noun, then we are good. :)17:24
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thrashand the command becomes 'baremetal node maintenance set'17:25
thrashand 'baremetal node maintenance unset'17:25
dtantsurrloo, no idea :( I like what thrash suggests though..17:25
dtantsurUX is not my strong side :)17:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent: Removes the use of mutables as default args  https://review.openstack.org/33146617:25
rloothrash: yeah, i think that makes sense.17:25
thrashand 'baremetal node console set' (which actually does work well)17:25
thrashetc.17:25
thrashat least they would be consistent.17:25
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dtantsuryeah.. at least it reads well to me, which is a good sign17:26
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livelaceHello again. What root password in user image ?17:32
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rloodtantsur, thrash: yes, so I think where we have 'node set <something-not-uuid> <uuid>', we should probably change to 'node <something-not-uuid> set <uuid>17:32
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mat128https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320584/17:32
dtantsurlivelace, it depends on the image itself17:32
mat128https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321082/17:32
TheJulialivelace: Depends on what is burned into the image and the OS defaults are in terms of account, how to escillate access, etc17:32
livelacedtantsur, Default ubuntu from docs17:33
dtantsurlivelace, that's a question to Ubuntu folks :)17:33
jlvillalAn agenda might be nice to have17:33
* NobodyCam needs to git coffee17:33
livelaceI thought that http://docs.openstack.org/developer/diskimage-builder tool provision default password ...17:34
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mrdalol17:35
thrashrloo: Ok. I will amend that patch to reflect that.17:36
thrashwe should probably update the spec too.17:36
rloothrash: yup17:37
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dtantsurlivelace, it does not. there are a couple of elements to do that: either devuser or dynamic-login17:39
cineramalivelace, you may want to check out the devuser element17:40
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livelaceBy default devuser element don't included ?17:40
livelaceIf I just put kernel parameter ?17:41
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NobodyCam++ thank you17:43
mat128http://time.unitarium.com/utc/1817:43
* dtantsur hunts for food, sorry if I'm late17:43
cineramalivelace: you would need to add it to your command line, so like "disk-image-create ubuntu devuser <other elements>17:43
lintan_good night guys, I am so sleep :)17:43
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livelacecinerama, Ok, thanks17:44
livelacedtantsur, Thanks, too17:44
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livelaceLast question for this day: which companies use Ironic in production ? (I'm interested in success story and performance)17:48
cineramalivelace, so one great place to look is at some of the past summit talks. lots of people have spoken about how they use ironic17:49
sambettsdtantsur: thanks for getting that low hanging fruit patch merged17:50
dtantsurlivelace, every summit I meet one-two new companies using ironic.. we (Red Hat) use it in our installer for OpenStack, Rackspace uses it for OnMetal feature17:50
livelacecinerama, Like this https://www.openstack.org/videos/video/ironic-managing-thousands-of-servers-in-production ?17:51
dtantsurlivelace, probably other folks here also have it in production :)17:51
dtantsursome hardware vendors definitely use it, not sure which exactly17:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Replace vif_portgroup_id with vif_port_id  https://review.openstack.org/32519717:53
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livelaceI understand this. But I need numbers (performance of compute node, type of glance storage, time of large deployments etc.)17:54
dtantsurlivelace, I suspect it might be a commercial secret... anyway, engineers working upstream are often not the best people to ask17:55
livelaceUsage experience :)17:55
vdrokhi dtantsur, is it a break now? :)17:56
livelacedtantsur, I don't think so (about commercial secret)17:56
dtantsurvdrok, hi, yes17:56
mgouldvdrok: yes, starting again on the hour17:56
vdrokaha, ok17:56
livelaceOk, enough for today. Thanks for all. Bye :)17:56
vdrokhi mgould :)17:57
mgouldgood night livelace17:57
mgouldhi vdrok17:57
jrolllivelace: if you have specific numbers you want, feel free to ask, I'll tell you if I can share or not :)17:58
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mat128livelace: we run it in production (http://www.internap.com/bare-metal/)18:00
dtantsurjroll, I'll be ~ 5 mins late, sorry18:00
jrolldtantsur: no worries, we're going to wait for you, it's your topic :)18:00
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jlvillalhttps://www.manning.com/books/irresistible-apis  I saw this and thought of our v2 API idea18:03
jrollsambetts: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326743/18:04
NobodyCamhttps://github.com/openstack/ironic-python-agent/blob/master/doc/source/troubleshooting.rst18:04
mat128jlvillal: I'd love to discuss the current problems with our API, as I think only the state transition / ironic-client part might need love18:04
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jlvillalmat128, I know jroll has ideas. He had mentioned some things in an email thread a week or so ago.18:05
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jlvillalmat128, And probably a good more people.18:06
mat128yeah I guess18:06
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jrollour api is okay for computers, it's terrible for humans18:06
jrollmat128: ever tried to do a deploy with curl/ironicclient instead of nova?18:06
mrdaI've heard that before :)18:06
mat128not at all, but we had to build a php client for ironic and it wasnt that painful18:07
mat128again, works for systems, maybe not for humans18:07
jrollyeah, I'd like to make it usable for humans18:07
mat128=)18:07
mat128they'd have to generate a configdrive :P18:07
dtantsurhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/diskimage-builder/elements/dynamic-login/README.html18:07
jrollmat128: >.>18:08
jlvillalThe spec: https://review.openstack.org/18837018:08
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jlvillalhttp://docs-draft.openstack.org/70/188370/18/check/gate-ironic-specs-docs/6e35630//doc/build/html/specs/not-implemented/driver-composition-reform.html18:09
* jroll stepping away for 30 seconds18:10
mat128jroll: just remembered about things like "{"op": "replace", "path": "/boot_interface", "value": "ipxe"}" and yeah, v2 8)18:10
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jrollhehehe18:11
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jrollhave to step away for 90 seconds again18:29
vdroksambetts: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279070/18:30
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jroll(dog got stuck outside when it started raining, lol)18:31
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mat128lol18:31
mat128poor dog18:31
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* mgould has to go now, see you all tomorrow!19:00
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NobodyCamnight mgould|afk19:01
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jrollhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-summit-driver-composition19:02
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mrdaI'm sorry, I just haven't thought this spec through enough to contribute meaningfully19:08
rloomrda: no need to apologize. I don't think everyone has looked at it :)19:08
* NobodyCam votes for one field19:08
mat128#decider19:09
mat128;)19:09
mat128I think Dimtry wants us to comment on the spec19:09
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mat128https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18837019:09
dtantsuryes, please vote on the spec19:11
dtantsurNobodyCam, ^^^19:11
jrolldevananda: your input is requested here, do we still need this additional field? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188370/18/specs/approved/driver-composition-reform.rst@17119:11
dtantsuryeah, looks like many folks don't want it19:13
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openstackgerritBrad P. Crochet proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Add maintenance mode commands  https://review.openstack.org/21672719:18
openstackgerritBrad P. Crochet proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Add provision state commands  https://review.openstack.org/20611919:18
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devanandajroll: I believe that was needed for migration and backwards compat with existing and/or out-of-tree drivers19:25
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mrdaI'm going to hit the sack, so see you tomorrow. Thanks for today's session!19:25
jrollmrda: thanks for coming! \o19:25
rlooby mrda. thx for attending!19:25
mrdao/19:25
devanandajroll: a new field there allows the db upgrade to be done without needing to do a data migration / replacing current 'driver_name' with new thing19:26
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jrolldevananda: so it seems like it might not be needed with how the rest of it is architected today, if you don't mind giving that a read19:26
jrolltl;dr we solve that by allowing classic drivers still19:26
rloodevananda: the latest version of the spec allows for the 'driver' field to be either an old/classic driver name, or the new 'hardware_type' value.19:26
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devanandahow will that actually be implemented?19:27
devanandaI mean - how will the code know that 'driver_name' is one or the other, when we do not know all the names of out of tree drivers?19:27
sambettsisinstance(olddriver) do old thing else do new thing?19:28
sambettsdevananda: also all the interfaces will be None if using a classic driver19:28
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mat128class ClassicDriver(Driver): pass     class DynamicDriver(Driver): pass19:29
mat128everyones a driver! ;)19:29
rloodtantsur: ^^ deva's question. the hardware types and drivers still need to be registered/configured.19:29
devanandasambetts: try: driverfactory(driver_name, old_namespace); except NotFound: driverfactory(driver_name, new_namespace)19:29
mat128classic drivers force interfaces, dynamic allows you to change them19:29
sambettsdevananda: yup or that19:29
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sambetts|afkNight everyone, thanks for a great first day!19:31
devanandasambetts: I do not yet believe that overloading one field with both old and new driver names is going to be sufficient to disambiguate the user's request19:31
devanandasambetts|afk: g'night!19:31
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sambetts|afkdevananda: I think the question is why we need to disambiguate it, the current spec proposes populating the drvier field with the hardware_type anyway, and the hardware_types now have default implementations specifying which interfaces to use if the node doesn't have the interfaces overriden19:33
dtantsurdevananda, well, having 2 fields magically interacting with each other is also pretty confusing19:33
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devanandahow will the API tier validate requests to change the interfaces, if the API service can't distinguish between old and new driver types?19:33
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sambetts|afkdevananda: the API can check the nodes driver field and check what type it is right19:34
sambetts|afk?19:34
devanandasambetts|afk: how does the API tier know if it's old or new, since the API tier can't load the class19:34
dtantsurdevananda, well, that's an issue anyway. if API needs to validate interfaces, it has to fetch driver information from a node's conductor19:34
openstackgerritMario Villaplana proposed openstack/ironic: Add power state change notifications  https://review.openstack.org/32186519:34
dtantsurs/node's/driver's/19:34
devanandait can only read the value of the fields of hte node object19:34
NobodyCammorning devananda19:34
devanandadtantsur: true19:35
rloodevananda: did you want to dial in to discuss?19:35
dtantsurdevananda, something like 1. oh, we have a request to change a driver and/or interfaces; 2. fetch information about the new driver from its conductor; 3. validate19:35
dtantsurI think we'll have to do that in all cases anyway19:35
devanandadtantsur: I thought conductors were going to register the set of hardware types supported and the intersecting set of enabled interfaces19:35
* sambetts|afk is really AFK now, I'll check the spec when I'm back 19:36
dtantsurdevananda, that's also true19:36
devanandaif those are registered, in the way that drivers are today, then the APi tier has that information (it's in the DB)19:36
devanandaand we can validate it without actually loading the driver classes19:36
dtantsuraha, yeah, I think we have it19:36
dtantsurdevananda, I've implemented your proposal about the internal table (well, to the extent I've remembered it :)19:36
devanandabut if the driver name field is overloaded with old and new drivers, then the API tier ... hmm... ok19:36
devanandawe just need to store these separately in the DB and then the API can disambiguate19:36
devanandagreat :)19:36
devanandaso yea, we can drop the second field, as long as we do that ^19:37
devanandarloo: I'm at dockercon today and tomorrow19:37
dtantsurdevananda, mind leaving a comment on the spec? I'll definitely forget tomorrow morning19:37
sambetts|afkwe can load HW types into the API right? because they don't actually load the interfaces19:37
mat128devananda: so you're suggesting one API field, 2 DB fields?19:37
devanandamat128: several db fields actually. a new table, probably19:37
devanandasambetts|afk: load?19:37
dtantsurlink: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319505/19:37
dtantsur(that's a link for the call)19:37
devanandaback later - gotta chat with folks here19:38
mat128devananda: thanks for your time19:38
dtantsursambetts|afk, I don't think we should; but anyway the information will be in the database19:38
sambetts|afkdtantsur: true19:39
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sambetts|afkdtantsur: that makes validating things much easier and faster probably19:39
sambetts|afkand is required for pulled the enabled drivers out anyway19:39
sambetts|afkpulling19:39
sambetts|afkdtantsur: reminds me of this comment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188370/8/specs/approved/driver-composition-reform.rst@14719:41
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sambetts|afkdtantsur: not sure if relevant19:41
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jlvillalhttp://docs-draft.openstack.org/05/319505/7/check/gate-ironic-specs-docs/99a4328//doc/build/html/specs/not-implemented/nova-compatible-serial-console.html19:43
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jlvillalI don't know if someone has a better wording for L67 ?19:47
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mat128http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/drivers/snmp.html19:53
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jlvillalIs there a reason to use 'socat' instead of 'netcat/ncat'?19:57
lucasagomesjlvillal, security19:57
jlvillallucasagomes, thanks19:58
lucasagomesjlvillal, socat is like a netcat + security19:58
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NobodyCamThank you all good(great) first day mid-cycle20:07
NobodyCambrb20:08
mat128yeah, thanks everyone20:08
mat128I should be there at the next one20:08
mat128in a bit less than 4 hours20:09
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jlvillalmat128, Thanks for joining :)20:16
jlvillalNobodyCam, And you too!20:16
openstackgerritJarrod Johnson proposed openstack/pyghmi: Add support for PyCA cryptography  https://review.openstack.org/33182820:22
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* jroll is back20:49
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lifelesslucasagomes: no worries21:17
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openstackgerritYosef Hoffman proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Add configuration options for DISK_WAIT  https://review.openstack.org/32490922:48
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jrollmat128: I'm just now starting dinner, might not be around right at 0000 for the midcycle, I'll check in when I get a moment but if there aren't many people / much discussion feel free to shut it down23:34
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mat128jroll: ok no prob23:54
mat128already on the line23:54
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