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openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic: Disable clean step 'reset_ilo' for iLO drivers by default https://review.openstack.org/277288 | 05:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client: Update --wait release note with an upgrade notice https://review.openstack.org/276259 | 06:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic: Disable clean step 'reset_ilo' for iLO drivers by default https://review.openstack.org/277288 | 07:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Naohiro Tamura proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Fix vfd mount for capitalized device name https://review.openstack.org/275511 | 07:46 |
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pas-ha | morning Ironic | 07:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Updates supporting ironic-neutron integration https://review.openstack.org/206144 | 08:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Allow to build user image with DIB https://review.openstack.org/256363 | 08:47 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: refactor ironic enroll-node code https://review.openstack.org/256364 | 08:47 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add Link-Local-Connection info to ironic port https://review.openstack.org/256365 | 08:48 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Update Ironic VM network connection https://review.openstack.org/256366 | 08:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add configure_provision_network function https://review.openstack.org/256367 | 08:48 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add Ironic/Neutron integration documentation https://review.openstack.org/258596 | 08:48 |
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openstackgerrit | vinay kumar muddu proposed openstack/ironic: Updated iLO documentation for boot mode capability https://review.openstack.org/274618 | 08:55 |
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mkovacik | morning Ironic! | 08:56 |
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lucasagomes | mkovacik, all morning :-) | 09:09 |
mkovacik | lucasagomes, o/ | 09:09 |
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vdrok | morning ironic, mkovacik and lucasagomes | 09:31 |
mkovacik | vdrok, o/ | 09:31 |
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lucasagomes | vdrok, morning! | 09:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: WIP: Discover nodes test https://review.openstack.org/276107 | 09:54 |
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dtantsur | Morning Ironic | 09:59 |
vdrok | morning dtantsur ! | 10:03 |
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mgould | morning Ironic | 10:10 |
dtantsur | o/ | 10:11 |
mgould | dtantsur, o/ | 10:12 |
vdrok | morning mgould ! | 10:13 |
mgould | morning vdrok! | 10:14 |
openstackgerrit | lokesh s proposed openstack/ironic: Adding audit support middleware to Ironic https://review.openstack.org/272658 | 10:14 |
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sergek | o/ | 10:24 |
yuriyz | morning Ironic and all | 10:27 |
mgould | morning sergek yuriyz | 10:27 |
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openstackgerrit | lokesh s proposed openstack/ironic: Adding audit support middleware to Ironic https://review.openstack.org/272658 | 10:28 |
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stendulker | morning dtantsur, vdrk, yuriyz, mgould, sergek | 10:38 |
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mgould | morning stendulker | 10:53 |
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vdrok | morning stendulker | 10:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironicclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/277247 | 11:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Debayan Ray proposed openstack/ironic: Add documentation for firmware update(iLO) as manual cleaning step https://review.openstack.org/276765 | 11:14 |
openstackgerrit | Debayan Ray proposed openstack/ironic: Add documentation for firmware update(iLO) as manual clean step https://review.openstack.org/276765 | 11:17 |
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openstackgerrit | lokesh s proposed openstack/ironic: Adding audit support middleware to Ironic https://review.openstack.org/272658 | 11:41 |
openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/ironic: Enable tinyipa for devstack Ironic https://review.openstack.org/259089 | 11:42 |
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sambetts | Morning all o/ | 11:50 |
mgould | sambetts, morning! | 11:53 |
sambetts | o/ mgould | 11:54 |
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vdrok | morning sambetts | 12:00 |
sambetts | o/ vdrok | 12:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Yuiko Takada proposed openstack/ironic: Add support API microversions for Tempest tests https://review.openstack.org/260358 | 12:07 |
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sambetts | dtantsur: I'm not sure what extra node fetch call you mean in your commit message for the node name inspector patch, introspect.py seems to be doing the same thing but in a different place | 12:09 |
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dtantsur | sambetts, I probably meant the get_status call which is not calling to ironic.node.get | 12:10 |
dtantsur | and g'morning :) | 12:10 |
sambetts | morning :) | 12:10 |
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sambetts | dtantsur: Ah! No I've worked it out, its the introspect call specfically if its a GET request and a name, then it'll do an extra ironic node fetch | 12:14 |
dtantsur | yep | 12:14 |
dtantsur | not sure if it's fine or not tbh | 12:14 |
openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Adding InfiniBand Support https://review.openstack.org/264257 | 12:14 |
sambetts | dtantsur: well the solution would be to extend our node cache model to include the name too, then we only query the cache | 12:15 |
dtantsur | sambetts, name can be changed in ironic | 12:15 |
sambetts | dtantsur: so we'd have to sync :( | 12:16 |
dtantsur | yeah, and it's a bit too much | 12:16 |
sambetts | dtantsur: yeah | 12:16 |
dtantsur | the 3rd option is to handle name->UUID conversion on the client side | 12:16 |
sambetts | hmm :/ client to ironic call is probably slower than inspector to ironic call, so I'm not sure you'd gain anything | 12:17 |
sambetts | I think its fine, its not like we're asking for the list of all node | 12:19 |
sambetts | s | 12:19 |
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devvesa | lucasagomes: Hi! Let you know that I clean the environment and I uploaded the coreos ramdisk and kernel in the beggining, and now it works. | 12:32 |
devvesa | I don't know what happenend last Thursday when the nodes went off after loading the ramdisk in the introspection stage | 12:32 |
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devvesa | lucasagmoes: Thanks for all your help | 12:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Add auto-discovery feature https://review.openstack.org/262199 | 12:51 |
openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: WIP: Discover nodes test https://review.openstack.org/276107 | 12:51 |
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TheJulia | mgould: my friend came back with option 0b | 13:10 |
TheJulia | Good morning everyone | 13:10 |
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lucasagomes | TheJulia, morning | 13:12 |
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vdrok | morning TheJulia | 13:14 |
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mgould | TheJulia, morning! | 13:14 |
mgould | which one was 0b? | 13:14 |
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mgould | [or is that a bitmask describing which arch codes we should accept?] | 13:15 |
TheJulia | mgould: 12 | 13:15 |
TheJulia | aarch64 is what my friend said | 13:15 |
TheJulia | I <3 that it is not defined by the RFC | 13:16 |
mgould | Oh, I see | 13:16 |
* TheJulia is trying to be sarcastic with that last comment | 13:16 | |
mgould | and anything else we should treat as not-EFI? | 13:16 |
mgould | yeah, it's *super*-helpful of them | 13:16 |
TheJulia | Well, submitted before some of these things were really thigns, but yeah. | 13:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Remove "ramdisk" mentioning in func test contrib https://review.openstack.org/277384 | 13:18 |
TheJulia | mgould: I don't really know, I think it really comes down to what do we know will work | 13:18 |
TheJulia | and what can be tested | 13:18 |
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TheJulia | good morning krotscheck | 13:19 |
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mgould | see you all tomorrow :-/ | 13:23 |
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TheJulia | goodnight mgould | 13:23 |
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jroll | morning y'all | 13:40 |
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TheJulia | good morning jroll | 13:40 |
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jroll | hey TheJulia :) | 13:41 |
openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Add head backslash for node path patch https://review.openstack.org/276693 | 13:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Use requests lib in HTTPClient https://review.openstack.org/229286 | 13:46 |
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lucasagomes | jroll, morning | 13:48 |
jroll | hey lucasagomes :) | 13:49 |
krotscheck | Hey there TheJulia | 13:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: WIP: Discover nodes test https://review.openstack.org/276107 | 14:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Update the home page https://review.openstack.org/276662 | 14:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Yuriy Zveryanskyy proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Add System Event Log support to management interface https://review.openstack.org/246965 | 14:12 |
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dtantsur | morning jroll, TheJulia, krotscheck | 14:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Debayan Ray proposed openstack/ironic: Augmenting the hashing strategy https://review.openstack.org/277408 | 14:13 |
jleino | Dear Baremetal experts, I have a beginner question about the node scheduling. I have been trying to make kind of a hybrid cloud with both bare metal and normal compute nodes with Liberty release. However, if I enable use 'scheduler_use_baremetal_filters' in my nova.conf I'm not able to create normally virtualized instances any more. The reason is that the bare metal ExactRamFilter decides that there are no suitable nodes a | 14:16 |
jleino | Is my setup supported at all? Or how does Ironic make decision when to deploy to baremetal and when to go with libvirt? | 14:16 |
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TheJulia | jleino: so, ironic does not make that kind of decision | 14:20 |
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lucasagomes | dtantsur, if/when you have time, mind taking a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276837/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273577/ ? | 14:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Remove "ramdisk" mentioning in func test contrib https://review.openstack.org/277384 | 14:21 |
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jleino | TheJulia: I think my Ironic tries to fit all nova boot requests to baremetal... even though I was trying to make a virtualized instance into one of the normal compute nodes. | 14:22 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes, do you plan on having stable branches for staging-drivers? | 14:23 |
TheJulia | jleino: As for scheduling, my understanding is most people use ironic as a separate AZ of sorts, nova doesn't really know where else to put the instance since it is scheduling for baremetal | 14:23 |
lucasagomes | dtantsur, thinking about it yes | 14:23 |
lucasagomes | cause IMHO it makes sense to match ironic's stable releases | 14:23 |
lucasagomes | wdyt? | 14:23 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes, +1. then please create a separate mitaka page in the release notes (like in ironic and inspector) | 14:24 |
lucasagomes | dtantsur, ++ | 14:24 |
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jleino | TheJulia: Ok. So one should separate the baremetal nodes and normal compute nodes into separate availability zones. That would make sense. I was thinking that nova/scheduler could make the difference based on some flavor metadata. | 14:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Add head backslash for node path patch https://review.openstack.org/276693 | 14:29 |
vdrok | jleino, I think it is also possible to set hypervisor_type=baremetal property in the glance image you're deploying to say that it should be ironic compute | 14:31 |
devananda | jleino: you can have both kvm and baremetal in the same region, but you need to do a few things to separate them | 14:31 |
vdrok | haven't tried that myself | 14:32 |
vdrok | morning jroll and devananda :) | 14:32 |
devananda | jleino: it's _easier_ to do it as a separate region right now (with liberty) but if you want them in the same region, you need to run two nova-scheduler processes (one for vm, one for baremetal) and use host aggregates to separate the instances | 14:32 |
devananda | jleino: and ofc you need to run some nova-compute with KVM driver, and at least one nova-compute with ironic driver | 14:33 |
dtantsur | morning devananda | 14:33 |
devananda | jleino: even then, you'll have challenges with network connectivity between vm and baremetal instances (that should be improved in Mitaka) | 14:33 |
devananda | and g'morning, all | 14:33 |
jleino | devananda: I think I got it. I will do the availability zones. :) It sure sounds easier. Many thanks all of you who commented. | 14:34 |
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devananda | dtantsur: ever seen this failure in inspector's gate before? http://logs.openstack.org/64/256364/25/check/gate-ironic-inspector-dsvm-ipa-nv/f3ca1d1/console.html#_2016-02-08_09_14_02_780 | 14:39 |
dtantsur | wut? | 14:39 |
dtantsur | no, never, lemme dig into it | 14:40 |
devananda | i'm going through the neutron patches and noticed that they all start failing inspector's gate job after | 14:40 |
devananda | *after that patach | 14:40 |
dtantsur | devananda, do you remember the first patch to fail? | 14:41 |
lucasagomes | dtantsur, reno patch updated | 14:41 |
dtantsur | thnx | 14:41 |
devananda | 256364 | 14:41 |
NobodyCam | good morning Ironicer :) | 14:42 |
lucasagomes | NobodyCam, morning :-) | 14:42 |
NobodyCam | :) | 14:42 |
rloo | happy Monday everyone | 14:44 |
lucasagomes | rloo, hey there! | 14:45 |
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rloo | is http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic our 'home page'? or is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic? (wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276662/) | 14:45 |
dtantsur | devananda, looking. I think the devstack change breaks assumptions that our gate make | 14:46 |
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lucasagomes | rloo, yeah I was confused at the beginning too, but then I looked at other projects and they were pointing to docs.openstack... | 14:46 |
lucasagomes | so, I think we should just keep it consistent | 14:46 |
vdrok | good morning rloo | 14:46 |
NobodyCam | happy monday rloo :) | 14:46 |
rloo | lucasagomes: if it makes sense. dunno, just wondering. I mean, that is developer docs. | 14:47 |
rloo | hi vdrok, NobodyCam, lucasagomes, dtantsur, devananda :) | 14:47 |
vdrok | morning NobodyCam ! | 14:47 |
dtantsur | morning NobodyCam, rloo | 14:48 |
NobodyCam | morning devananda dtantsur sambetts jlvillal vdrok jroll TheJulia and all others not directly listed here | 14:48 |
lucasagomes | rloo, yeah :-/ | 14:48 |
TheJulia | good morning NobodyCam | 14:48 |
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dtantsur | rloo, it used to be developers docs, now it's our official docs | 14:48 |
dtantsur | cause we won't be handled by the docs team | 14:48 |
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rloo | dtantsur: that seems odd. installation docs shouldn't be in a url that has 'developer' in it even though it is now. | 14:49 |
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dtantsur | rloo, fully agree.. | 14:50 |
devananda | rloo: I still think of the wiki as the starting page, but I would prefer it to be docs.openstack.org/-something- | 14:50 |
devananda | rloo: agreed. but like you said, the openstack docs team isn't going to write docs for us | 14:51 |
devananda | we _could_ write doc changes for the official doc projects and propose them | 14:51 |
devananda | it's just that we never really have | 14:51 |
devananda | dtantsur: what assumption does it break? I don't see any changes to VM parameters? | 14:52 |
rloo | devananda: agreed that the docs team isn't going to write docs for us, however if openstack wants to be professional, they should put in hooks from docs.openstack.org/.../ to the project installs or whatever. | 14:52 |
dtantsur | devananda, trying to figure out. inspector gate assumes that detected size will be flavor size + flavor ephemeral size | 14:52 |
dtantsur | this was always the case, but seems no longer | 14:53 |
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rloo | devananda: anyway, just curious what folks thought. | 14:53 |
devananda | rloo: yes. that's been discussed, but afaik, the docs team hasn't gotten around to it | 14:53 |
sambetts | o/ NobodyCam | 14:53 |
NobodyCam | o/ | 14:54 |
NobodyCam | :p | 14:55 |
openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Use requests lib in HTTPClient https://review.openstack.org/229286 | 15:00 |
dtantsur | devananda, something is weird is going on with disk size in this patch, ending up in flavor size being 1GiB bigger than it used to be.. I pointed at the offending line, but I'm not strong enough in bash to understand it | 15:00 |
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jlvillal | Good morning NobodyCam dtantsur sambetts devananda rloo TheJulia vdrok lucasagomes jroll and everyone else :) | 15:19 |
dtantsur | morning jlvillal | 15:20 |
lucasagomes | jlvillal, hello there, morning | 15:20 |
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rloo | morning jlvillal | 15:20 |
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jlvillal | :) | 15:21 |
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sambetts | o/ jlvillal | 15:22 |
jlvillal | Hello sambetts. I didn't see you in my scroll back. Good morning too :) | 15:23 |
jlvillal | Oh wait, I did say hello. It must be automatic :) | 15:23 |
sambetts | haha | 15:23 |
sambetts | :-P | 15:23 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost: Add script and playbook to test dhcp https://review.openstack.org/276177 | 15:25 |
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vdrok | morning jlvillal ! | 15:30 |
openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/ironic: Remove downgrade support from migrations https://review.openstack.org/258991 | 15:31 |
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dtantsur | devananda, jroll, and others: I don't think we should include the DocImpact tag for our commits, right? | 15:40 |
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dtantsur | cause it creates a bug each time such commit is merged and I have no clues what to do about these bugs.. | 15:42 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost: Add script and playbook to test dhcp https://review.openstack.org/276177 | 15:45 |
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devananda | dtantsur: yea, it creates a bug in another project that we aren't monitoring | 15:45 |
devananda | dtantsur: or... is it creating bugs in our bug tracker now? | 15:46 |
dtantsur | devananda, in ours | 15:46 |
devananda | ooh | 15:46 |
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devananda | dtantsur: if the patch doesn't include a doc change, then that's useful IMO | 15:46 |
devananda | as a way to track 'hey, that patch needs a follow up patch to update docs' | 15:46 |
dtantsur | devananda, well, now I got 5 bugs for every commit of the network separation patch chain.... | 15:46 |
devananda | since it's easy for us to edit the commit message of someone else's patch, add DocImpact, land the patch, then assign the bug to them | 15:47 |
devananda | huh? | 15:47 |
dtantsur | and they are VERY vague, I was literally stuck for a minutes before I understood what happened | 15:47 |
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devananda | ugh | 15:47 |
dtantsur | devananda, looks like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=doc&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_br | 15:48 |
dtantsur | anches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on | 15:48 |
dtantsur | damn, wonderful url... | 15:48 |
devananda | lol | 15:48 |
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devananda | I love launchpad :P | 15:48 |
devananda | dtantsur: link to one of them? | 15:48 |
dtantsur | devananda, better one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.tag=doc | 15:48 |
devananda | perfect | 15:48 |
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dtantsur | that's not the worst feature ever, but I don't quite like how it is implemented | 15:49 |
devananda | dtantsur: I like it, fwiw. but I can see that it doesn't really fit with how we're using bugs | 15:50 |
devananda | it was designed to report this into a separate doc-only project | 15:50 |
dtantsur | devananda, feel free to reopen one of these with proper triaging :) | 15:50 |
dtantsur | yeah, for a doc-only project it would be much clearer | 15:50 |
devananda | at least they're all tagged 'doc' | 15:50 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Add proxy related parameters to agent driver https://review.openstack.org/254296 | 15:50 |
dtantsur | devananda, ... and we use "documentation" :D | 15:50 |
dtantsur | i.e. that's our "official" tag | 15:51 |
devananda | right | 15:51 |
devananda | dtantsur: thnk it's worth changing our official tag to 'doc' so we can use the DocImpact flag? | 15:52 |
dtantsur | it involves changing existing 12 bugs, otherwise no objections from me | 15:53 |
devananda | k, let's bring it up in the meeting | 15:53 |
NobodyCam | oh a agenda item? | 15:54 |
NobodyCam | which we have none atm :p | 15:54 |
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dtantsur | NobodyCam, I think our biggest agenda item is the midcycle next week | 16:03 |
NobodyCam | ++++ | 16:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed openstack/ironic: Agent vendor handles manual cleaning https://review.openstack.org/247695 | 16:06 |
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rloo | jlvillal: you OK if I/you +A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261443/ ? | 16:11 |
jlvillal | rloo: Sure! | 16:12 |
jlvillal | I can do it if you want. | 16:12 |
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rloo | go for it jlvillal! | 16:13 |
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jlvillal | rloo: Done. | 16:13 |
rloo | jlvillal: thx :) | 16:13 |
jlvillal | :) | 16:13 |
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devananda | lucasagomes: think you'll have any time this week to look at the API changes in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206244/58 and the patch immediately following it? | 16:17 |
lucasagomes | devananda, hi there! totally | 16:17 |
devananda | awesome, tyvm! | 16:17 |
lucasagomes | will do it today/tomorrow tops | 16:17 |
devananda | we landed all the internal patches last week (db, rpc, etc) | 16:17 |
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lucasagomes | nice! | 16:17 |
devananda | those two are all the REST API changes | 16:18 |
devananda | and everything after that is devstack and docs, basically | 16:18 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-specs: Replace Tag with NodeTag in nodes-tagging spec https://review.openstack.org/276540 | 16:18 |
devananda | once we land the API change patches, we can unblock the nova and client work | 16:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Refactor install-guide to configure API/Conductor seperately https://review.openstack.org/261443 | 16:18 |
lucasagomes | devananda, cool, yeah, the microversion patch for nova finally landed as well | 16:19 |
lucasagomes | that's gonna make it simpler for nova (I hope) | 16:20 |
rloo | devananda: wrt the API changes ^^ 206244, where is the reno? in one of the subsequent patches? | 16:23 |
devananda | rloo: heh, I was wondering the same thing | 16:23 |
rloo | devananda: once the API lands, it seems like we should have a reno cuz now something is exposed to the user. | 16:24 |
devananda | indeed | 16:24 |
rloo | devananda: also, we did break something (not backwards compatible) in the dhcp interface I think. | 16:24 |
devananda | oh? | 16:25 |
devananda | please comment | 16:25 |
rloo | devananda: Vladyslav's comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206245/53/ironic/common/dhcp_factory.py | 16:26 |
rloo | devananda: i am hoping a reno is sufficient for that. | 16:26 |
devananda | there are a lot of docs in later patches | 16:27 |
devananda | but yea, I think a reno should be included in the patches making API changes | 16:27 |
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dtantsur | rloo, ouch, this looks like an unpleasant breakage, to be honest.. | 16:34 |
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rloo | dtantsur: oh :-( I should have brought it up last week. sorry. | 16:38 |
rloo | dtantsur: i didn | 16:38 |
rloo | dtantsur: I didn't think those patches would merge so quickly. although i guess it wasn't quick, they've been around for awhile. | 16:38 |
dtantsur | yeah... not sure how big a concern it is for us | 16:39 |
dtantsur | compatibility for plugins is a pain in the neck | 16:39 |
devananda | rloo: months, to be fair | 16:39 |
rloo | devananda: exactly. | 16:39 |
devananda | rloo: and this is my top priority for this cycle | 16:39 |
devananda | so expect the rest to land soon | 16:40 |
dtantsur | it's been the top priority for a while already :) we should definitely finish it this cycle | 16:40 |
rloo | devananda: it is one of the top priorities for ironic as a group, so i've been reviewing and yes, i'd like them to land soon so i don't have to review them anymore. | 16:40 |
devananda | :) | 16:40 |
rloo | dtantsur: wrt that dhcp change -- is that something we should discuss? do we roll back? | 16:43 |
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dtantsur | rloo, it's worse at least raising on the ML and seeing if someone complains | 16:44 |
dtantsur | I'm *sure* there are existing out-of-tree implementations, I'm not sure if they're really affected | 16:45 |
dtantsur | ionutbalutoiu, hey, was it you who had an out-of-tree dhcp provider? | 16:45 |
rloo | dtantsur: i was just about to add to today's agenda, but if ML is sufficient, i can do that. | 16:45 |
dtantsur | (I'm sorry if I confused you with someone) | 16:45 |
dtantsur | I'm assuming that by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245911/ | 16:47 |
dtantsur | rloo, let's start with an agenda item then, meeting is in 13 minutes anyway :) | 16:48 |
rloo | dtantsur: okey dokey | 16:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Follow-up on dracclient refactor https://review.openstack.org/276311 | 16:54 |
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vdrok | good night everyone! | 17:02 |
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lucasagomes | devananda, have the patch handy? ifarkas may be interested on that too | 17:15 |
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devananda | oh - looks like ifarkas replied on the patch | 17:17 |
devananda | I should refresh the page before saying things :) | 17:17 |
devananda | lucasagomes: patch is 269137, fyi | 17:17 |
lucasagomes | np! thakns | 17:17 |
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ionutbalutoiu | dtantsur, This is the code for the DHCPD provider I have -> https://github.com/ionutbalutoiu/ironic/tree/dhcpd-custom-provider (just rebased it with the latest master) | 17:21 |
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dtantsur | ionutbalutoiu, thanks! we're discussing the change on the meeting right now #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Allow to build user image with DIB https://review.openstack.org/256363 | 17:34 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add Link-Local-Connection info to ironic port https://review.openstack.org/256365 | 17:34 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: refactor ironic enroll-node code https://review.openstack.org/256364 | 17:34 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add configure_provision_network function https://review.openstack.org/256367 | 17:34 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Update Ironic VM network connection https://review.openstack.org/256366 | 17:34 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add Ironic/Neutron integration documentation https://review.openstack.org/258596 | 17:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic-lib: Config drive support for whole disk images for iscsi based deploy https://review.openstack.org/230924 | 17:36 |
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jlvillal | mgould: All this talk about people not understanding made me think of this and you :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMS2VnDveP8 | 17:49 |
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jlvillal | mgould: My brother-in-law a Scotsman sent it to me :) | 17:49 |
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* jlvillal doesn't actually know if mgould is Scottish. | 17:49 | |
mgould | jlvillal: hah! | 17:50 |
mgould | jlvillal: FSVO | 17:50 |
mgould | I was born in Scotland, but mostly grew up elsewhere and don’t have a Scottish accent | 17:51 |
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jlvillal | Ah | 17:51 |
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jlvillal | mgould: Well I have a British passport and an American accent. Plus an American passport. | 17:51 |
dtantsur | jlvillal, Russia is probably the only place where you need a visa then :) | 17:52 |
jlvillal | dtantsur: It is! | 17:52 |
jlvillal | dtantsur: Now if I could get a passport from where I was born (Argentina). I wouldn't need a visa for Russia. | 17:53 |
dtantsur | lol, that would be a great collection | 17:53 |
jlvillal | dtantsur: I just got a three year visa for Russia though. Bad news, it doesn't start until 1-June-16. So I can't go visit my wife in two weeks :( | 17:53 |
dtantsur | jlvillal, weird. why is that? | 17:54 |
jlvillal | dtantsur: The invitation letter my wife got was for 1-June-16. And even though I applied for 20-Feb, they did not change the visa date. | 17:54 |
jlvillal | They made it match the invitation letter. | 17:55 |
dtantsur | jlvillal, I see.. I wonder what they do for my US visa | 17:55 |
jlvillal | We started the invitation letter process before we knew that we would want me to come in February. | 17:55 |
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jlvillal | dtantsur: Not sure on your visa. I don't think it should be an issue. Also if you get US visa, it should be for three years by default. For tourist that is. | 17:56 |
dtantsur | jlvillal, tomorrow I expect my passport to arrive, so we'll know :) | 17:56 |
jlvillal | Russia and US have agreement to issue three year visas to each other. | 17:56 |
dtantsur | if it's for 3 years, I'll probably start going to offline midcycles :) | 17:57 |
lucasagomes | mkovacik, btw, there are any motions in neutron to implement wildcards for DHCP rules? | 17:57 |
jlvillal | :) | 17:57 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes, sambetts is working on that | 17:57 |
lucasagomes | so that we could use neutron for DHCP instead of inspector having it's own? | 17:57 |
lucasagomes | dtantsur, oh right, that's good stuff | 17:57 |
sambetts | :) | 17:57 |
jlvillal | dtantsur: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/new-visa-agreement.html | 17:57 |
lucasagomes | sambetts, any updates on that? You have patches? (sorry I didn't look at it at all) | 17:58 |
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mkovacik | lucasagomes, sorry, I don't know that ;) | 17:58 |
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lucasagomes | mkovacik, no worries :-) | 17:59 |
sambetts | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247027/ https://review.openstack.org/248931 https://review.openstack.org/249339 https://review.openstack.org/255240 | 17:59 |
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sambetts | cya everyone | 18:00 |
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lucasagomes | sambetts thanks! | 18:00 |
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devananda | dtantsur: lol - we switch to virtual midcycles just as you get cleared to travel to US? ... hmm, but does this mean you'll get to go to Austin? | 18:01 |
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dtantsur | devananda, yep, that's what it means | 18:01 |
devananda | dtantsur: \o/ | 18:01 |
jroll | wooo | 18:01 |
dtantsur | :) | 18:01 |
devananda | dtantsur: want to discuss inspector ha now, or wait for mkovacik? | 18:03 |
dtantsur | devananda, I won't be here for 2 hours, so if you have any questions, just go ahead :) note though that he's the main driving force behind this proposal | 18:04 |
devananda | dtantsur: gotcha | 18:04 |
devananda | I'll just comment on review for now | 18:04 |
dtantsur | sure | 18:05 |
devananda | but I'd like to understand the main use case for this | 18:05 |
devananda | lucasagomes mentioned in tripleo, putting inspector in the overcloud, as a use case | 18:05 |
devananda | are there others? | 18:05 |
dtantsur | from my pov what we want is to make sure that inspector is there when you need it, i.e. if a machine with it says goodbye, we can still do introspection | 18:05 |
dtantsur | that's my take on it, and I personally would prefer us to do active-passive | 18:06 |
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dtantsur | I don't have any other use cases for it, except for the overcloud case | 18:06 |
devananda | hmm, k | 18:06 |
devananda | also how will this interact with the "discover new nodes" work | 18:07 |
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dtantsur | I don't think it changes much. we still can have only one DHCP server, so we need some kind of leader election | 18:08 |
devananda | just rely on an external HA DHCP service, i guess? </thinking outloud> | 18:08 |
devananda | right - so that's active-passive | 18:08 |
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dtantsur | "rely on external HA DHCP service" sounds good, but what we have now is much simpler | 18:09 |
devananda | actually, what does it mean to do inspection in the overcloud? does customer bring their own hardware? | 18:09 |
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dtantsur | devananda, definitely not :) now I lack information and will try to guess: | 18:09 |
devananda | if there's a doc describing how inspector is run in the overcloud, that might help me understand this | 18:09 |
dtantsur | inspector grows to do a couple of fancy things, including introspection rules, which can be used for capabilities discovery | 18:10 |
dtantsur | and capabilities can be used for scheduling | 18:10 |
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dtantsur | so by using inspector they can tune scheduling via tuning capabilities discovery | 18:10 |
dtantsur | that's my wild guess, I suspect mkovacik or lucasagomes might have the exact information | 18:10 |
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devananda | dtantsur: cool, thanks | 18:11 |
devananda | capabilities discovery sounds really useful, from what I skimmed of that :) | 18:11 |
dtantsur | we have an IPA plugin that discovers somewhat around 1000 of facts from the machine :) all of this can be used in inspector rules/custom plugins | 18:12 |
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lucasagomes | not sure I have all the info... but yeah, inspector can benchmark machines and allow users to schedule based on it | 18:12 |
dtantsur | it can even benchmark it, meaning we can exclude nodes that score too little from the available nodes | 18:12 |
lucasagomes | e.g give me a node where disks iops are > X | 18:12 |
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devananda | lucasagomes: all of that sounds great, but you could just as well run that in the undercloud, take the data, and pass it to the overcloud | 18:13 |
devananda | lucasagomes: erm, ignore all that | 18:13 |
devananda | lucasagomes: I see your point :) | 18:14 |
lucasagomes | devananda, heh yeah... it's more a tripleo-ish design, ofc HA in inspector is only one part of the puzzle to have it on the overcloud | 18:14 |
devananda | right | 18:14 |
lucasagomes | the network should be segregated so that the ironic undercloud do not touch the nodes managed by the ironic on the overcloud and so on | 18:14 |
dtantsur | network segregation is the most interesting part here...... | 18:15 |
devananda | right - took me a couple minutes to page that back into memory (and I was already typing...) | 18:15 |
devananda | lucasagomes: I had interpreted your comment in the meeting to be "use inspector on the tenant network" | 18:15 |
devananda | which is definitely not what you said | 18:15 |
lucasagomes | devananda, yeah tripleo can be complex to setup | 18:15 |
lucasagomes | devananda, oh no | 18:15 |
devananda | lucasagomes: so as an operator of the (over)cloud, I want to use inspector to inform Ironic and Nova about the capabilities and performance of machines | 18:16 |
lucasagomes | devananda, correct | 18:16 |
devananda | and thereby provide choice to my users based on that data | 18:16 |
lucasagomes | you can do benchmarks to detect failures on nodes too (if you move the node to manageable and so on) | 18:17 |
lucasagomes | say a disk may be failing, you can check it out | 18:17 |
lucasagomes | devananda, precisely | 18:17 |
devananda | so all of that is great -- but I do not see how it requires active-active HA for inspector | 18:17 |
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devananda | active-active is challenging to implement and operate. in this case, what is the cost to losing the inspector node? are customers affected? | 18:18 |
lucasagomes | devananda, I think the active/active may be more due the simplicity to implement? (I assume) | 18:18 |
devananda | I think the answer is "no" | 18:18 |
lucasagomes | otherwise you would need some leader election | 18:18 |
devananda | yea, it's actually more difficult to do active=active than active-passive | 18:18 |
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dtantsur | devananda, I second this. I'm not sure why mkovacik prefers active-active | 18:18 |
lucasagomes | devananda, yeah, I agree I gotta read that spec to have a better understanding of what is being proposed | 18:19 |
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lucasagomes | but yeah, a/a or a/p seems doable off the top of my head | 18:19 |
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lucasagomes | dtantsur, can tooz do leader election? | 18:19 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes, yep | 18:19 |
dtantsur | we do plan to base this on tooz | 18:19 |
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lucasagomes | nice, yeah | 18:19 |
lucasagomes | the good thing about using tooz is that we also validate it as a library for ironic (lock mgmt) | 18:20 |
dtantsur | yeah, I was thinking about it as well | 18:20 |
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dtantsur | I hope mkovacik will be in Austin too to discuss this and share his experience | 18:20 |
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lucasagomes | dtantsur, ++ | 18:22 |
lucasagomes | devananda, dtantsur I will go grab some food | 18:26 |
dtantsur | enjoy | 18:27 |
lucasagomes | will check the messages afterit | 18:27 |
dtantsur | and I'm calling it a day now, see you tomorrow | 18:27 |
lucasagomes | dtantsur, g'night see ya | 18:27 |
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NobodyCam | have a good night dtantsur|afk | 18:29 |
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jroll | devananda: could you chime in on yuriyz's email at some point today? | 18:34 |
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jroll | seems like that transition should be removed, but I'm not sure why it was there originally, and if that was intentional | 18:35 |
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devananda | jroll: ack | 18:36 |
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jroll | thanks! | 18:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Nisha Agarwal proposed openstack/ironic: Updated iLO documentation for boot mode capability https://review.openstack.org/274618 | 18:44 |
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mrda | Morning Ironic | 19:52 |
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mkovacik | devananda, just read your review, thanks! | 19:56 |
devananda | mrda: morning! | 19:56 |
devananda | mkovacik: np | 19:56 |
mrda | o/ | 19:57 |
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mkovacik | devananda, have got you some more questions/concerns right now? | 19:57 |
mkovacik | I'll try to make new revision this weakfish | 19:57 |
mkovacik | mrda, o/ | 19:57 |
mkovacik | week-ish* | 19:58 |
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devananda | mkovacik: basically I'm missing the context for this, and rather than guess, I'd like to know | 19:58 |
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devananda | mkovacik: not much use in reviewing the implementation proposal if I guess the wrong problem | 19:59 |
mkovacik | devananda, yeah, I understand, let's continue after I push the problem statement then | 19:59 |
devananda | thanks | 19:59 |
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mkovacik | cool | 19:59 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost: Add option to disabled default gateway on bifrost https://review.openstack.org/277555 | 20:38 |
yolanda | TheJulia, here it goes ^ | 20:38 |
TheJulia | thank you :) | 20:39 |
yolanda | let's see if tests pass now... | 20:42 |
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gmmaha | TheJulia: jroll: do you know of a way that i can get the installed machines to assign a interface name to a specific MAC | 22:19 |
gmmaha | basically 10 machines i install with bifrost, they all have eth0 and eth1 to be the ones that will always have networko | 22:20 |
gmmaha | sice they are the ones that are wired | 22:20 |
jroll | gmmaha: I'm honestly not sure, I think that's a really hard thing to do iirc | 22:23 |
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TheJulia | it is a hard thing to do | 22:23 |
TheJulia | still trying to completely understand the question though | 22:23 |
gmmaha | jroll: TheJulia: thanks | 22:23 |
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TheJulia | are you asking for a specific interface name to be tied to to a mac address? | 22:23 |
gmmaha | TheJulia: basically all the machines i install, i want to give certain MAC addresses certain interface names.. | 22:24 |
TheJulia | okay | 22:24 |
JayF | This is more of an OS/distro config question than one for Ironic | 22:24 |
JayF | but I'm willing to help | 22:24 |
gmmaha | this is so taht when i use OSA to install openstack, i can configure it to use eth0 and eth1 eg: to be the interfaces it will use to talk | 22:24 |
TheJulia | yeah | 22:24 |
JayF | Gotta let me know which OS/distro it is though :) | 22:24 |
TheJulia | its basically a driver/bus init order thing | 22:24 |
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devananda | yea - that's an OS/distro specific thing | 22:24 |
gmmaha | JayF: ubuntu 14.04 | 22:24 |
jroll | yeah you probably don't want me to help with this, I'm too dumb to realize I shouldn't restart dbus, let alone make dbus actually do things | 22:25 |
JayF | gmmaha: you'll need to write custom udev rules. You can probably look in /etc/udev/rules.d/*-persistent-net.rules to see an example | 22:25 |
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devananda | Ironic could pass down network info to the instance with hints about which iface to attach, but the iface naming is not ironic specific | 22:25 |
gmmaha | TheJulia: that was my understanding as well.. was thinking if there a way other than literally injecting stuff into the udev rules file | 22:25 |
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JayF | gmmaha: those are created by your distro on first boot to make it consistent -- you can drop something like that in manually (although I'd use another name) | 22:25 |
gmmaha | devananda: thanks.. will dig into what i can do there | 22:26 |
TheJulia | gmmaha: that is about it | 22:26 |
JayF | gmmaha: you can use net.ifaces=0 to force the old style eth0/eth1 names ... but that doesn't guarantee ordering, just guarantees they'll be named eth* instead of based on physical location or driver used | 22:26 |
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gmmaha | JayF: cool.. thats was my option.. but was terying to see if there is an esy way out! | 22:26 |
JayF | I mean the "easy way out" is to index interfaces in whatever app is having trouble by mac | 22:27 |
TheJulia | gmmaha: well, at least your going to inject it into a config drive :) | 22:27 |
JayF | rather than by OS-name | 22:27 |
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gmmaha | JayF: hmm | 22:28 |
gmmaha | TheJulia: hopefully.. :) working on the udev rules now | 22:28 |
gmmaha | JayF: its OSA at this point.. let me see if i am missing something.. i am most certain i am not the first guy to stumble into this.. | 22:29 |
gmmaha | jroll: :) | 22:30 |
gmmaha | thanks everyone for the help | 22:30 |
jroll | :) | 22:30 |
TheJulia | :) | 22:30 |
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jlvillal | gmmaha: http://askubuntu.com/questions/628217/use-of-predictable-network-interface-names-with-alternate-kernels | 22:58 |
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saripurigopi | Hello Ironic | 23:01 |
TheJulia | jlvillal: I was close to pasting that link but the mention of udev rules came up :) | 23:01 |
TheJulia | saripurigopi: Good morning | 23:01 |
jlvillal | TheJulia: :D | 23:01 |
saripurigopi | TheJulia: good afternoon | 23:02 |
jlvillal | TheJulia: I want to try the "net.ifaces=1" thing and see what that does. | 23:02 |
jlvillal | All of our interfaces are coming up as eth0/eth1/ etc... | 23:02 |
TheJulia | jlvillal: are they coming up unpredicably? | 23:03 |
jlvillal | TheJulia: it seems like it. | 23:03 |
TheJulia | youch | 23:03 |
jlvillal | I think if we install it, then they are the same for that installation. | 23:03 |
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jlvillal | But if the get re-provisioned then they can change. | 23:03 |
jlvillal | s/the get/they get/ | 23:03 |
jlvillal | they being the bare-metal systems | 23:04 |
TheJulia | how so? | 23:04 |
jlvillal | What was eth0 becomes eth3, or something like that. | 23:04 |
jlvillal | At least that is what I was told. | 23:04 |
jlvillal | gmmaha: and another person are working on it. | 23:05 |
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TheJulia | I've seen stuff like that before, typically the udev persistant networks tuff already knowing about interfaces if it involves a re-deploy, but if that is absent and not involved, then it is likely random init order | 23:06 |
JayF | yep, exactly | 23:06 |
JayF | gotta kill the persistent net file outta your source image | 23:06 |
TheJulia | ++ | 23:07 |
JayF | Our cloud-init patches index by mac, so it doesn't break | 23:07 |
TheJulia | or have it present, depending on what is going on | 23:07 |
JayF | but it's actually worse -- because we can ship an image with weird udev rules left in place (and strangely named interfaces) and networking still work | 23:07 |
JayF | heh | 23:07 |
TheJulia | JayF: so... that breaks my brain slightly, but I'm sure I'll forget it shortly :) | 23:07 |
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JayF | TheJulia: in our configs, it's like "configure ab:cd:ef:01:23:45 with this config:" rahter than "configure eth0 with this config:" | 23:08 |
TheJulia | ++ | 23:09 |
JayF | TheJulia: so we could have udev rules establishing eth0-eth400 with bullshit, and eth401+402 would come up and configure properly | 23:09 |
jlvillal | JayF: Good idea :) | 23:09 |
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TheJulia | JayF: I got monty to do something similar in simple-init | 23:09 |
TheJulia | JayF: basically, key off the mac, don't trust anything else | 23:09 |
JayF | yep | 23:10 |
jlvillal | TheJulia: Do you know if simple-init supports something like 'disk_setup'? | 23:11 |
TheJulia | jlvillal: it does not | 23:11 |
TheJulia | jlvillal: Basically, the thought was get the machine up, and then let configuration management take over in simple-init's case | 23:11 |
TheJulia | so config management can deal with the disk particulars | 23:11 |
jlvillal | TheJulia: Thanks and :( on the content of the info. :) for answering | 23:11 |
TheJulia | np | 23:11 |
jlvillal | TheJulia: Yeah, we are trying to figure out best way to do that. Ansible doesn't seem to have a build in disk partioning module. So seems like roll your own. But doesn't look too bad if okay with creating single partition on the disk. | 23:12 |
jlvillal | s/build in/built in/ | 23:12 |
openstackgerrit | Stephanie Miller proposed openstack/bifrost: Initial support for virtualenv installation https://review.openstack.org/264366 | 23:13 |
* jlvillal likes his new toy. A "cisco console cable" with built-in USB to RS-232 | 23:14 | |
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jlvillal | Not made by Cisco... | 23:14 |
TheJulia | jlvillal: do you mean a console cable, or a console rollover cable? | 23:15 |
TheJulia | jlvillal: that is kind of surprising but it doesn't look lik they do :( | 23:15 |
jlvillal | It has USB on one side and the RJ-45 connector on other end for serial | 23:15 |
jlvillal | So you can plug into a network switch on the serial port and control it | 23:15 |
ijw | Where did you get it? | 23:16 |
TheJulia | jlvillal: maybe... script the first two steps or so and then use lvg/lvol/filesystem modules | 23:16 |
jlvillal | ijw: Amazon | 23:16 |
TheJulia | jlvillal: well, there is a distinct pinout difference between a strait through rj-45 serial and rollover cable | 23:17 |
TheJulia | some devices work with both (because their hardware is designed to, some only work with rollover, some work with the standard strait-through) | 23:17 |
jlvillal | TheJulia: I'm not sure about that. I just know it hooks into the network switches we have. | 23:17 |
TheJulia | jlvillal: as long as it works :) | 23:17 |
jlvillal | If device is compatible with Cisco method, then this cable should work. | 23:17 |
TheJulia | rollover most likely :) | 23:18 |
* jlvillal doesn't know what is the 'Cisco method' :) | 23:18 | |
* TheJulia has one of those cables someplace in her bins of parts | 23:18 | |
jlvillal | TheJulia: It is blue. Which seems to be the common color for this type of cable. | 23:19 |
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jlvillal | ijw: It is this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RHDXDWA But so far I have only plugged it into my local system to make sure it recognized it. I need to go hook it up to the network switch to be really sure it works :) | 23:24 |
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ijw | Yeah, the problem I have had with RS232 interfaces in the past is finding one that Macs like | 23:45 |
ijw | The ones kicking around here are a bit dated and at some point MacOS stopped working with them (Ubuntu was a bit funny about it for a goodly while, too) | 23:46 |
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