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| [1]cdearborn | jlvillal, jroll - thx very much! was able to get it working. really appreciate the help | 00:13 |
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| jlvillal | [1]cdearborn: Good to hear :) You're welcome. | 00:14 |
| devananda | [1]cdearborn: reading scrollback... did you figure out how to use the python client library? | 00:14 |
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| jroll | devananda: read up two lines ;D | 00:15 |
| jroll | [1]cdearborn: you're welcome :) | 00:15 |
| devananda | :-) | 00:15 |
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| [1]cdearborn | devananda: mostly - I still have a little issue of it replacing the entire property string instead of updating it, but i'm sure that's just an easy option change. will tinker with that tomorrow | 00:25 |
| [1]cdearborn | good night ironic! lol | 00:25 |
| devananda | [1]cdearborn: should be a matter of creating the right PATCH document. yea, that's not documented ... :-/ | 00:29 |
| devananda | [1]cdearborn: anyway, g'night! | 00:29 |
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| mrda | hey all, I'm having some trouble with an ironic install I'm trying to do in containers | 01:03 |
| mrda | On doing an "ironic driver-list" (the simplest of commands, right?) I'm getting a "Internal Server Error (HTTP 500)" | 01:04 |
| mrda | There's nothing beyond normal startup in the log file (and that's with a -v -d) | 01:04 |
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| JayF | you're getting a straight 500 error, with no body? | 01:05 |
| JayF | are you 100% sure you're hitting the ironic-api service directly and not through a broken proxy? | 01:05 |
| jlvillal | mrda: I forget. Does the client give you a 'curl' equivalent command. I thought it did... | 01:07 |
| jlvillal | If so, maybe try the curl command and maybe get more details... | 01:07 |
| mrda | JayF: I'm looking at that | 01:09 |
| mrda | JayF: I think you're onto something | 01:13 |
| * JayF has a pretty good opsy-sense | 01:13 | |
| * mrda is a software engineer, not an ops guy :) | 01:13 | |
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| devananda | mrda: pass --debug to the client | 01:21 |
| devananda | mrda: and failing that, simply "curl http://<IP>:6385/v1/" | 01:21 |
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| * devananda responds before reading scrollback, again ... | 01:23 | |
| mrda | thanks devananda | 01:23 |
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| jlvillal | mrda: Any progress? I'm interested to know what you figured out :) | 01:29 |
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| mrda | jlvillal: Just testing... I'll report back once I get over this hurdle :) | 01:29 |
| jlvillal | Okay. Good luck. | 01:30 |
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| * mrda crosses everything | 01:30 | |
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| NobodyCam | just ugh | 01:36 |
| jlvillal | NobodyCam: ? | 01:36 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 01:36 |
| mrda | NobodyCam: I resemble that! | 01:36 |
| mrda | :) | 01:37 |
| NobodyCam | hpe-cloud 's latest linkin video video release | 01:38 |
| jlvillal | NobodyCam: Do you star in it? :) | 01:38 |
| * NobodyCam is curently under a large rock | 01:39 | |
| jlvillal | NobodyCam: Took me long enough to find it :) | 01:43 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 01:43 |
| jlvillal | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHWNcBpJYxM&feature=youtu.be is so much easier :) | 01:43 |
| NobodyCam | oh no | 01:44 |
| mrda | good job jlvillal! | 01:44 |
| * NobodyCam sicks large sign "beware of leopard" on rock he is currently under | 01:45 | |
| NobodyCam | lol | 01:47 |
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| * jlvillal goes back to watching video after getting interrupted by phone call... | 01:54 | |
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| chenke__ | Haomeng: hi | 01:55 |
| Haomeng | chenke__: morning:) | 01:55 |
| chenke__ | Haomeng: how are u going? | 01:55 |
| Haomeng | chenke__: fine, and you? | 01:56 |
| chenke__ | we have fog and haze in chengdu,@@ | 01:57 |
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| jlvillal | NobodyCam: Good job on the interview :) | 01:58 |
| jlvillal | And fancy, they have a two camera setup... | 01:58 |
| chenke__ | Haomeng: Do you build a whole disk image for windows? i made one through qemu, but it got bule sreen after startup | 01:59 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: I was so nervous | 01:59 |
| Haomeng | chenke__: how did you generate windows images, via disk image builder? | 01:59 |
| NobodyCam | hey morning Haomeng :) | 02:00 |
| jlvillal | NobodyCam: I would be too! :) | 02:00 |
| jlvillal | NobodyCam: So far it has 68 views. So no need to worry ;) | 02:00 |
| Haomeng | NobodyCam: thanks:) | 02:00 |
| NobodyCam | I just could not think.. | 02:00 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: :) +++ | 02:01 |
| Haomeng | NobodyCam: I am watching the video also:) | 02:01 |
| Haomeng | NobodyCam: that is cool:) | 02:01 |
| chenke__ | haomeng: i generate it by qemu directly, i boot up a virtual machine and install it from iso | 02:01 |
| NobodyCam | ieeek | 02:02 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 02:02 |
| jlvillal | NobodyCam: Interesting about multi-machine deploys. We had a discussion about it last week. About figuring out how well it scales. | 02:02 |
| Haomeng | chenke__: that should works, for blue screen, I think some hardware drivers are missing | 02:02 |
| * jlvillal is hungry and decides it is time to go home. | 02:02 | |
| * NobodyCam is <blink>*_NOT_*</blink> good at piblic speaking | 02:03 | |
| chenke__ | Haomeng: yes, i agree. so how to fix it, do you have some suggestion? | 02:03 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: yea | 02:03 |
| NobodyCam | we should chat | 02:03 |
| NobodyCam | but not now | 02:03 |
| jlvillal | At some point we should create a Wiki page with links to videos about ironic. Summit stuff and anything else we can find :) | 02:03 |
| jlvillal | +1 | 02:03 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: NO!!!!!! | 02:04 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 02:04 |
| jlvillal | LOL :D | 02:04 |
| Haomeng | chenke__: it is better that you install the windows in special hardware, and run linux ramdisk to 'dd' copy the whole disk to image, then deploy it to same hardware, windows will not blue screen | 02:04 |
| chenke__ | chenke: tku. i think it will work. | 02:06 |
| chenke__ | Haomeng: i believe it will work. | 02:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nisha Agarwal proposed openstack/ironic: Add support for providing custom Swift endpoint URLs https://review.openstack.org/251277 | 04:48 |
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| greghaynes | I'm not sure if anyone is aware, but ironic-agent is broken in dib due to pip 8 http://logs.openstack.org/62/239562/4/check/gate-dib-dsvm-functests-devstack-trusty/e960b8d/console.html#_2016-01-20_02_46_51_047 | 05:07 |
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| Haomeng|2 | greghaynes: I just checked the log, found this line - "2016-01-20 02:46:51.047 | Detected a distutils installed project ('psutil') which we cannot uninstall. The metadata provided by distutils does not contain a list of files which have been installed, so pip does not know which files to uninstall." | 05:12 |
| greghaynes | yes | 05:12 |
| Haomeng|2 | greghaynes: previous line is "Found existing installation: psutil 2.1.3" | 05:12 |
| greghaynes | yes, saw that | 05:13 |
| Haomeng|2 | greghaynes: so do you think if it is dib issue | 05:13 |
| greghaynes | it is a change in pip 8 | 05:13 |
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| Haomeng|2 | greghaynes: "60-ironic-agent-install" | 05:13 |
| Haomeng|2 | greghaynes: not sure how to fix, do you have idea? | 05:14 |
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| mrda | huh, I'm seeing some pip install strangeness elsewhere | 05:16 |
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| mrda | Haomeng|2: greghaynes: See here: https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/3384 | 05:24 |
| greghaynes | yep | 05:24 |
| mrda | Looks liek a few peeps are pining pip to 7.1.2 until the world settles down | 05:25 |
| mrda | or pinning | 05:25 |
| greghaynes | Ya, I am not really a fan of that. There are some patches proposed to do that right now | 05:25 |
| Haomeng|2 | mrda: yes, thanks | 05:26 |
| * mrda has lost a few hours today due to a mistimed refresh of a bunch of containers | 05:27 | |
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| jlvillal | greghaynes, By 'ironic-agent' can I assume you mean ironic-python-agent? | 05:46 |
| greghaynes | jlvillal: the dib ironic-agent element, which does install ironic-python-agent, yes | 05:47 |
| jlvillal | greghaynes, Okay thanks. I know JayF was talking about the IPA gate being broken. Not sure if the pip stuff is related to that or not. | 05:48 |
| greghaynes | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270010/ | 05:48 |
| greghaynes | likely | 05:48 |
| jlvillal | He said it had been broken for a few days and he needed to dig into it and figure it out. | 05:48 |
| greghaynes | It would have the same set of deps and anything installing psutil will explode | 05:48 |
| greghaynes | ah, nvm | 05:48 |
| greghaynes | it would have just broken this afternoon | 05:48 |
| greghaynes | It may be doubley-broken now | 05:48 |
| jlvillal | Ah okay. Not good news, but thanks :) | 05:49 |
| jlvillal | greghaynes, The Ironic gate is/was broken today for a different issue. So I wonder if we are now broken again? | 05:49 |
| mrda | jlvillal: fwiw, I did have a broken ha proxy, which didn't help. But there are other issues, that I haven't been able to debug yet, due to pip8 killing my env. | 05:49 |
| mrda | jlvillal: that was out of band, but just an update before I forgot | 05:50 |
| jlvillal | mrda, Sorry to hear that :( I wonder how much that will affect my grenade work... Probably a lot I think. | 05:50 |
| * jlvillal gets ready to go to sleep. | 05:51 | |
| mrda | talk to you tomorrow jlvillal! | 05:51 |
| jlvillal | mrda, Yep! | 05:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ironic: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/268582 | 06:17 |
| changzhi | hi, guys. all tempest tests error. | 06:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenguo Niu proposed openstack/ironic: Add db api layer for CRUD operations on node tags https://review.openstack.org/232598 | 06:27 |
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| Haomeng|2 | changzhi: yes, depends on gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-agent_ssh gate fix | 06:37 |
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| Haomeng|2 | changzhi: there is a fix - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270010/2 | 06:37 |
| Haomeng|2 | greghaynes: try to recheck | 06:37 |
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| haomeng | changzhi, yes | 06:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nisha Agarwal proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Enhance ilo drivers to do inband inspection https://review.openstack.org/201904 | 07:49 |
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| dtantsur | Morning Ironic | 08:27 |
| Nisha | dtantsur, morning | 08:28 |
| yuikotakada | dtantsur, morning | 08:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Naohiro Tamura proposed openstack/ironic-specs: iRMC OOB rescue mode support https://review.openstack.org/250648 | 09:11 |
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| deray | g'morning Ironicers | 09:26 |
| deray | I am currently trying to test the manual cleaning with a manual clean step. ANy patch apart from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251995/ to be included? | 09:27 |
| stendulker | deray: that patch should be enough i suppose, wht error do you get? | 09:38 |
| deray | stendulker, not yet done with the setup. just wonderign, will the cli support be there a part of this? | 09:40 |
| stendulker | deray: with 251995 API should work | 09:44 |
| stendulker | deray: For CLI you would need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258694/ | 09:45 |
| deray | stendulker, just what I was looking for. thx :) | 09:48 |
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| dtantsur | morning mgould, vdrok | 10:24 |
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| mgould | morning dtantsur! | 10:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Tan Lin proposed openstack/ironic: Add a config option [upgrade_levels]/conductor https://review.openstack.org/253355 | 10:26 |
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| sambetts | Morning all o/ | 10:52 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: the swift devstack fix has FAILED again, it timed out :'( | 11:23 |
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| dtantsur | no gate for poor ironic any more | 11:24 |
| vdrok | :'( | 11:24 |
| vdrok | another 20 hour wait | 11:25 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: its blocking my downstream testing too because I need a reclone=True devstack and don't really want to have to manually patch in that fix every time I restack ;'( | 11:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Refactor client resource classes https://review.openstack.org/254246 | 11:46 |
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| sinval | morning folks | 12:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Allow to build user image with DIB https://review.openstack.org/256363 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add portgroups to support LAG interfaces - RPC https://review.openstack.org/206243 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add Link-Local-Connection info to ironic port https://review.openstack.org/256365 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Added operator documentation for ironic portgroups https://review.openstack.org/228496 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add portgroups to support LAG interfaces - API https://review.openstack.org/206244 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: refactor ironic enroll-node code https://review.openstack.org/256364 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add portgroups to support LAG interfaces - net https://review.openstack.org/206245 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add configure_provision_network function https://review.openstack.org/256367 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Update Ironic VM network connection https://review.openstack.org/256366 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Update the deploy drivers with network flipping logic https://review.openstack.org/213262 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add Ironic/Neutron integration documentation https://review.openstack.org/258596 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic: Add network provider interface and implementations https://review.openstack.org/139687 | 12:19 |
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| vdrok | morning sinval | 12:35 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, :( | 12:41 |
| dtantsur | morning sinval | 12:42 |
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| TheJulia | good morning | 13:29 |
| sambetts | o/ TheJulia | 13:30 |
| TheJulia | good mornign sambetts | 13:30 |
| TheJulia | s/gn/ng/ | 13:30 |
| sinval | morning TheJulia sambetts | 13:32 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: have you run into any issues with tox/pip versioning and installing argparse? | 13:45 |
| dtantsur | doesn't ring anything.. | 13:46 |
| sambetts | my local CI system is producing this now "Detected a distutils installed project ('argparse') which we cannot uninstall. The metadata provided by distutils does not contain a list of files which have been installed, so pip does not know which files to uninstall." | 13:47 |
| sambetts | not sure how to deal with it :/ | 13:47 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts, people are discussing it on the ML, the solutions seems to be to downgrade pip to < 8 | 13:47 |
| sambetts | Oh I couldn't find anything on there, which theme is it under ? | 13:48 |
| sambetts | ah found it, in Infra | 13:48 |
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| vdrok | good morning TheJulia | 14:05 |
| pas-ha | do python-*clients still support py26? because separate install of argparse seems to be needed for Py26 only, as it is included in Py27 stdlib.. | 14:06 |
| dtantsur | pas-ha, I think we've dropped support for py26 | 14:07 |
| rloo | hi pas-ha. No, we recently removed py26 support from ironicclient (and I think most/all clients) | 14:07 |
| rloo | hi and morning everyone, vdrok, TheJulia, dtantsur | 14:08 |
| dtantsur | morning rloo, TheJulia | 14:08 |
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| vdrok | morning rloo ! | 14:08 |
| rloo | dtantsur: did you see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268960/? yet another day (at least) with the gate broken | 14:08 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I keep baby-sitting it.. | 14:08 |
| * dtantsur rechecked again | 14:09 | |
| dtantsur | this morning a lot of things were broken all around, seems a bit better now | 14:09 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yesterday, jlvillal mentioned that it takes 18 hours for that to get through the gate. to wait 18 hours only to see that it failed :-( | 14:09 |
| vdrok | rloo, today it took 21 hour to fail :) | 14:10 |
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| dtantsur | we're improving :D | 14:10 |
| sambetts | ;'( | 14:11 |
| rloo | dtantsur, vdrok: :-( I looked at one of the failures, it looks like it was due to a timeout. with nova i think. well, i am hopeful for next week... | 14:11 |
| rloo | dtantsur: do you know if this breaks the gate for ipa as well? i see people doing rechecks but what's the use. | 14:12 |
| dtantsur | rloo, it should break IPA too, yes | 14:12 |
| dtantsur | anything that tests agent_ssh driver essentially | 14:13 |
| dtantsur | so ironicclient and inspector work, but ironic and IPA do not | 14:13 |
| rloo | dtantsur: thanks, i think i'll send out email about it. rechecking won't help and it'll just slow things down for other projects. | 14:13 |
| dtantsur | yep | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Milan Kováčik proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Allow rerunning introspection on stored data https://review.openstack.org/267637 | 14:21 |
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| NobodyCam | good morning Ironicers :) | 14:27 |
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| dtantsur | morning NobodyCam | 14:29 |
| rloo | morning NobodyCam! When's your next film? :) | 14:30 |
| NobodyCam | morning dtantsur rloo JayF jlvillal jroll devananda sambetts vdrok mgould TheJulia | 14:31 |
| sambetts | o/ NobodyCam | 14:32 |
| * NobodyCam run back under is rock | 14:32 | |
| NobodyCam | s/run/runs/ | 14:32 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 14:32 |
| NobodyCam | hehehee | 14:32 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: :D | 14:32 |
| NobodyCam | I was so nervous doing that | 14:33 |
| * dtantsur suspects he missed something interesting | 14:33 | |
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| NobodyCam | dtantsur: there is link in scroll back with me in a film | 14:34 |
| rloo | dtantsur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHWNcBpJYxM&feature=youtu.be | 14:35 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: about 01:44 utc I think | 14:35 |
| NobodyCam | ieek | 14:35 |
| dtantsur | oh cool! | 14:35 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 14:35 |
| * dtantsur adds to watch-later list | 14:35 | |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam, man, we felt even more under the rock when we released our 1st single :D | 14:36 |
| * dtantsur is still under the rock actually | 14:36 | |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 14:36 |
| NobodyCam | single? | 14:37 |
| NobodyCam | really | 14:37 |
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| * NobodyCam notes that he does not have facebook account at all | 14:37 | |
| dtantsur | ah I see :) | 14:37 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam, well, really. http://illusorytemple.com/releases/2016-rusty-roofs/ | 14:38 |
| * dtantsur is back under the rock (and looks for some food) | 14:38 | |
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| NobodyCam | AWESOME! | 14:39 |
| dtantsur | :) | 14:40 |
| dtantsur | I'm not pleased with my skills as a mix engineer, otherwise I'm pretty proud of it :D | 14:40 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 14:42 |
| jroll | rloo: I'm really sick of people just rechecking everything that fails, especially when it's clearly related to the patch :( | 14:43 |
| rloo | dtantsur: cool :) | 14:43 |
| jroll | dtantsur: nice :D | 14:44 |
| jroll | flac download++ | 14:44 |
| rloo | jroll: i think we need to educate/communicate/ etc. we're probably all guilty of recheck'ing 'unnecessarily' | 14:44 |
| jroll | rloo: some are worse than others :( | 14:44 |
| vdrok | morning NobodyCam and jroll | 14:44 |
| rloo | jroll: well, we can say that about other things too. :D | 14:44 |
| jroll | morning dtantsur, NobodyCam, rloo, vdrok, sambetts, anyone else I've missed :) | 14:44 |
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| sambetts | jroll: I think recently our CI has been so unreliable that people have been rechecking just to be sure that the failure is repeatable and not just a random failure :( | 14:47 |
| jroll | sambetts: maybe people should jump in to help fix our CI | 14:47 |
| jroll | some people have | 14:47 |
| jroll | most have not | 14:47 |
| sambetts | yeah :/ | 14:47 |
| NobodyCam | morning jroll | 14:47 |
| jroll | thanks for sending that email rloo | 14:48 |
| rloo | jroll: yw. Maybe we need to communicate more via email, dunno. I didn't think the gate would be broken for so long though. | 14:49 |
| jroll | yeah | 14:50 |
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| dtantsur | jroll, morning :) | 14:53 |
| sambetts | NobodyCam: that was a great interview! | 14:55 |
| NobodyCam | hehehe thank you sambetts | 14:56 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 14:56 |
| * dtantsur is so curious, but tries not to watch youtube at work place :) | 14:57 | |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: it is a interview about ironic ... so it work releated | 14:57 |
| dtantsur | lol, you've convinced me | 14:58 |
| NobodyCam | is there not a list of current PTL's? | 14:58 |
| jroll | there is | 14:58 |
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| jroll | http://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/index.html | 14:59 |
| jroll | well, a list of projects | 14:59 |
| jroll | which contains the ptl | 14:59 |
| jroll | actually... | 14:59 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: https://github.com/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/blob/master/tools/list_ptls.py | 14:59 |
| jroll | just does irc nick though | 14:59 |
| NobodyCam | awesome Thank you jroll :) | 15:00 |
| jroll | np | 15:00 |
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| dtantsur | NobodyCam, very nice interview indeed! :) | 15:04 |
| NobodyCam | thank you dtantsur :) | 15:05 |
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| jlvillal | Good morning NobodyCam dtantsur jroll sambetts rloo vdrok and everyone else | 15:14 |
| * jlvillal getting a slightly late start to the day... | 15:14 | |
| NobodyCam | morning jlvillal | 15:14 |
| sambetts | o/ jlvillal | 15:14 |
| jlvillal | :) | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | morning jlvillal | 15:14 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: rocks are nice places to hide under. They are excellent shelter from other humans who can be troublesome | 15:14 |
| vdrok | morning jlvillal | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia++ | 15:15 |
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| jlvillal | And good morning TheJulia. Missed you first time through. | 15:16 |
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| jlvillal | NobodyCam, For PTL info. I think this is supposed to be the 'official source' https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml | 15:16 |
| TheJulia | jlvillal: good morning, sorry I've been a little quiet today... fighting the travel system of doom | 15:17 |
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| jlvillal | TheJulia, Sounds familiar. I was trying to see how long it would take to get a business 'invitation letter' and visa to go to Russia. As they are doing a hackathon at the same time I was going to be there for vacation. | 15:18 |
| jlvillal | Short answer: Too long | 15:18 |
| jlvillal | So no hackathon for me in Moscow. | 15:18 |
| TheJulia | :( | 15:18 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal, well, I'm now doing the same, but for the US :) | 15:20 |
| dtantsur | I wonder what are my chances of getting a visa :D | 15:20 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, I hope they are excellent! :) | 15:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Milan Kováčik proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Introducing API for aborting introspection https://review.openstack.org/265275 | 15:30 |
| sambetts | jlvillal: have you thought any more about the solution for the Dockerfile proxy issue? | 15:33 |
| jlvillal | sambetts, Only in the sense that I thought my submitted patch was acceptable for now. | 15:34 |
| jlvillal | sambetts, It seemed like six of one and half dozen of another. | 15:34 |
| jlvillal | Not sure I really think your or my option is really any better than the other. | 15:35 |
| jlvillal | sambetts, What do you think? | 15:35 |
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| sambetts | jlvillal: its just not quite as clean as I would like, but it works :) | 15:38 |
| jlvillal | sambetts, I think once Docker 1.9 is in wide release the ARG method will be relatively clean. | 15:39 |
| sambetts | jlvillal: where is it that we define the version of Docker? so we can't use --build-arg ? | 15:39 |
| jlvillal | sambetts, I don't know where the version of Docker is define. But Ubuntu 14.04 has Docker 1.6 | 15:39 |
| jlvillal | s/define/defined/ | 15:39 |
| sambetts | ooh, we're relying on system packages :( | 15:40 |
| jlvillal | sambetts, Yep. Docker is a golang program. | 15:40 |
| jlvillal | So we can't pip install it | 15:41 |
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| sambetts | :'( I hate how far behind the sys packages get, https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/ubuntulinux/ its a shame we can't place the docker apt repos in sources | 15:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Milan Kováčik proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Introducing API for aborting introspection https://review.openstack.org/265275 | 15:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/ironic: Update ImcSdk requirement to use PyPi https://review.openstack.org/270278 | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | oh great ^^ :) | 16:01 |
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| sambetts | :D | 16:01 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, btw, I wonder if the next inspector release should be 3.0.0 instead of 2.4.0 due to dropped support for maintenance mode | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | not sure what we consider semantic versioning here | 16:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic: Clarify that size in root device hints and local_gb are often different https://review.openstack.org/266442 | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | rloo, updated ^^ | 16:02 |
| rloo | dtantsur: thx. looking... | 16:03 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: hmm, what if we bump major if we drop support for a version of ironic, does dropping support on maintenance drop a supported ironic version? | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | when did we introduce "manageable" state, Kilo? | 16:05 |
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| dtantsur | actually I don't think people are bumping major versions when they stop supporting older version of another service | 16:05 |
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| dtantsur | but here the fact is somewhat hidden, so some people could still use maintenance mode | 16:06 |
| * dtantsur asks on #openstack-release | 16:06 | |
| rloo | dtantsur: based on the kilo release notes, i'd say yes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Kilo#OpenStack_Bare_Metal_service_.28Ironic.29 | 16:07 |
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| dtantsur | thnx. meaning we only dropped support for Juno, which we never seriously supported anyway since we got renamed | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Milan Kováčik proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Allow rerunning introspection on stored data https://review.openstack.org/267637 | 16:11 |
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| jroll | dtantsur: yeah, I've been thinking more about semver and that we should probably bump major version when we remove deprecated things | 16:14 |
| sambetts | dtantsur, jroll: if thats the case then we should bump to 3.0.0 | 16:15 |
| dtantsur | yeah.. I'm asking release folks just to confirm our idea of it | 16:15 |
| jroll | sambetts: well, that's not a declaration of sorts, but rather my recent thoughts :) | 16:16 |
| sambetts | jroll: myself and a colleague have been trying to work out the same thing for our networking-cisco repo | 16:16 |
| dtantsur | oh, and we should release stable/liberty btw | 16:17 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: havn't we already done that? | 16:18 |
| jroll | dtantsur: oh, of ironic? | 16:19 |
| dtantsur | of both ironic and inspector :) | 16:19 |
| jroll | yeah agree | 16:19 |
| jroll | feel free to propose, I can ack | 16:19 |
| dtantsur | I have to deal with inspector first, it lacks one release note on liberty | 16:19 |
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| rloo | tox | 16:29 |
| rloo | oops :) | 16:29 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts, please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270307/ | 16:29 |
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| dtantsur | as soon as this lands I will request liberty release as well | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed openstack/ironic: Cache agent clean steps on node https://review.openstack.org/267918 | 16:37 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: looks good :) | 16:37 |
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| thingee | jroll: hey wrt shovel, I'm still lost in that thread. | 16:39 |
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| thingee | jroll: so it does have a missing piece that ironic could use. But shovel wants to be a general thing outside of OpenStack | 16:40 |
| thingee | rather could be outside of OpenStack | 16:40 |
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| jroll | thingee: ohai, so | 16:41 |
| jroll | rackhd is a baremetal provisioning system, that has lots of overlap with ironic and ironic-inspector | 16:42 |
| jroll | shovel is some sort of bridge between rackhd and ironic | 16:42 |
| jroll | and is also a horizon plugin | 16:42 |
| jroll | so, one might use rackhd to discover/inspect new servers, and shovel would then enroll them into ironic | 16:43 |
| jroll | it also appears to take some monitoring data from rackhd and push it into ironic's db | 16:44 |
| jroll | thingee: that's what I understand so far | 16:44 |
| thingee | would it be fair to say this could just be an option in ironic and shovel could live in ironic? | 16:44 |
| thingee | I don't understand the benefit of the separate project | 16:44 |
| jroll | I don't understand the benefit of a separate project, either | 16:45 |
| jroll | I'm not sure if it could live in ironic; I haven't read enough into it | 16:45 |
| jroll | it certainly *could* but I'm not sure if it should, rather | 16:46 |
| jroll | I wish they'd just push the small feature gap that rackhd covers up into ironic (monitoring things, maybe additional inspection features?) | 16:46 |
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| jroll | I need to think on it more, but I don't think integrating with rackhd has a large value compared to many of our other priorities right now, so I've kind of left it in the back of my mind | 16:47 |
| thingee | I won't be present for the TC meeting next week, in which they are applying to be official, but I will start looking deeper into the project to understand if this makes sense | 16:48 |
| jroll | oh, are they? interesting | 16:48 |
| jroll | thingee: got a link? | 16:49 |
| thingee | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee | 16:49 |
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| thingee | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269417/ | 16:49 |
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| jroll | thanks | 16:50 |
| dtantsur | jroll, thingee, yeah, I wonder why the could not join forces with folks bringing nodes discovery in inspector | 16:52 |
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| jroll | I agree | 16:53 |
| jroll | also this governance patch may affect my outlook on the situation :) | 16:53 |
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| thingee | yeah not even a deliverable under ironic, just it's own thing | 16:54 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts, meh, liberty didn't have 'tox -edocs'... | 16:57 |
| dtantsur | need to figure it out tomorrow | 16:58 |
| sambetts | ah, so its not building the release notes? | 16:58 |
| jroll | dtantsur: is there a way they could add an inspector plugin that polls rackhd for new nodes or something? | 16:58 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, no, it's trying to build docs, which we only introduced in mitaka | 16:58 |
| sambetts | ah :( | 16:58 |
| jroll | the monitoring could totally be an ironic driver thing | 16:58 |
| dtantsur | jroll, hard to say without looking into details, but nothing is impossible. we have 2 specs up: one for discovery, one for extended CMDB integration | 16:59 |
| jroll | dtantsur: yeah, this seems like a CMDB thing | 16:59 |
| jroll | or the way it registers nodes does, at least | 17:00 |
| sambetts | jroll, dtantsur: they could feed data into inspector in place of a ramdisk and then inspector will either auto discover them or update existing node info? | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | note that we do have some level of CMDB integration already | 17:00 |
| jroll | sambetts: well, I'm thinking without the shovel bridge, and rackhd itself isn't meant to be openstack specific (though I suppose it could be optional) | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, or it can be a simple introspection plugin | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | again, hard to tell, they never talked to me about it | 17:01 |
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| jroll | yep | 17:02 |
| jroll | the only discussions had so far is "how do we make an openstack project?" | 17:02 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: Yeah, its annoying they never approached us about it | 17:02 |
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| * dtantsur is planning an "inspector status update" talk for the summit | 17:04 | |
| jroll | ++ | 17:06 |
| jroll | hm, maybe I should do one of those eh | 17:06 |
| * jroll makes a note | 17:06 | |
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| dtantsur | going home now, see you | 17:07 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: sounds like a good idea! | 17:09 |
| * sambetts is also calling it a day | 17:09 | |
| jroll | night guys | 17:10 |
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| krotscheck | jroll: Heya - I've just caught a rumor that RedHat may be upstreaming some kind of "Bare Metal UI". | 17:12 |
| krotscheck | jroll: Have you heard anything like that? | 17:13 |
| dtantsur|afk | krotscheck, tripleo UI? | 17:13 |
| jroll | krotscheck: I have not. interesting. | 17:13 |
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| jroll | inb4 it turns out to be tuskar | 17:13 |
| krotscheck | dtantsur|afk: No idea, all I know that there's a "UI thing of undetermined functionality related to ironic" | 17:13 |
| dtantsur|afk | krotscheck, if you mean tripleo UI, catch akrivoka or jtomasek on #tripleo | 17:14 |
| dtantsur|afk | that's essentially a tuskar UI replacement | 17:14 |
| dtantsur|afk | GUI to driver overcloud configuration and deployment. but that's all I know - ask people I've mentioned above (both in EU time, so it might be late) | 17:15 |
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| NobodyCam | night dtantsur|afk | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic: DO_NOT_MERGE_OR_REVIEW: Test patch for Grenade testing. https://review.openstack.org/269924 | 17:49 |
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| jlvillal | jroll: Let me get back to you on grenade/tempest failures. When I tried to run it again I hit an issue earlier on. Maybe pip8 related. So pulling in some new versions of projects. | 18:10 |
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| jlvillal | Basically what used to work is now broken :( | 18:10 |
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| jlvillal | Vagrant, libvirt, proxy servers, and devstack-gate. Oh my! | 18:17 |
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| NobodyCam | jlvillal: off to see the wizard today? can you pick me up a brain where your there? lol | 18:21 |
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| NobodyCam | s/where/when/ | 18:21 |
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| jlvillal | NobodyCam: Sorry I need one first :P | 18:22 |
| NobodyCam | lol +++ | 18:22 |
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| jroll | jlvillal: fun, n oworries | 18:30 |
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| jlvillal | jroll: Just annoying that was working before is now failing. But that isn't unusual in this line of work :) | 18:31 |
| jroll | s/:)/:(/ | 18:31 |
| jlvillal | I try to be positive... | 18:32 |
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| jlvillal | jroll: I got this from you, but now my new: fix-pip-stuff.sh | 18:47 |
| jlvillal | sudo pip install -U 'pip<8' tox pbr virtualenv setuptools | 18:47 |
| jroll | jlvillal: virtualenv<14 | 18:48 |
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| jroll | as virtualenv bundles pip | 18:48 |
| jlvillal | Oh, virtualenv 14 is also bad. | 18:48 |
| jlvillal | good to know! | 18:48 |
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| NobodyCam | night mgould | 18:50 |
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| chaustin | I've joined #openstack-ironic as chaustin….should be clear it is me | 19:07 |
| rloo | hi chaustin. whoever you are :) | 19:07 |
| JayF | Well you're certainly not me | 19:08 |
| JayF | which bodes well for you | 19:08 |
| sinval | folks, do we have a timeout for the whole deployment process? something that goes since deploying state to active state? I know "deploy_callback_timeout", but I think that it's used just during the wait_callback state, isn't it? | 19:08 |
| chaustin | Hi I'm a developer @softlayer/ibm working with deva | 19:08 |
| sinval | I'm searching something like: "I'll leave deployments that can take 120 minutes happen" | 19:08 |
| JayF | chaustin: welcome :) I work on Ironic w/Rackspace for OnMetal | 19:08 |
| jroll | chaustin: welcome :) | 19:08 |
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| chaustin | Thanks Jay | 19:09 |
| sinval | chaustin: welcome o/ | 19:09 |
| jroll | sinval: I don't think so | 19:09 |
| devananda | sinval: I believe tempest has such a timeout, yes | 19:10 |
| devananda | sinval: but within Ironic? not afaik | 19:10 |
| devananda | chaustin: ohhai! | 19:10 |
| sinval | jroll, devananda, thank you guys | 19:11 |
| chaustin | Hi | 19:11 |
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| * devananda looks at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268960/ again, sees that it is 2hr into the 26hr merge queue | 19:13 | |
| NobodyCam | :/ ugh | 19:13 |
| devananda | and with the broader gate issues, I doubt anything will merge in ironic for a day or two | 19:15 |
| rloo | devananda: that's assuming it passes this time :-( | 19:15 |
| devananda | I'll keep babysitting it... and be pleased if I can get the tempest things in by EOW | 19:15 |
| devananda | rloo: right | 19:16 |
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| devananda | jroll: besides tempestlib stuff, is there anything else you wanted prioritized this week or next, ahead of the neutron work? like manual cleaning? | 19:16 |
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| rloo | devananda: i think besides the current gate issue, we're still getting timeouts. did we decide to go with tinyipa? | 19:19 |
| jroll | devananda: yeah, tempest, tinyipa, manual cleaning | 19:19 |
| devananda | *nod* | 19:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Reorganize the developer's main page https://review.openstack.org/267205 | 19:39 |
| devananda | oh hey - we can still land doc patches at least :) | 19:39 |
| * devananda reviews all the doc things | 19:39 | |
| rloo | devananda: and specs too :) | 19:39 |
| * zer0c00l will appreciate if his specs get reviewed | 19:41 | |
| devananda | rloo: yea, except I dont want to land those right now - we already have enough work in-flight ... | 19:42 |
| rloo | devananda: I think it is OK to land specs. we'll probably always have enough work in-flight. | 19:42 |
| devananda | rloo: sure. I don't mean we shouldn't land them. just that I'm _presently_ more interested in doing something more immediately beneficial | 19:43 |
| rloo | devananda: gotcha. | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Arun S A G proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Add spec for deploying OS tarballs https://review.openstack.org/248968 | 19:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Clarify that size in root device hints and local_gb are often different https://review.openstack.org/266442 | 19:52 |
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| devananda | mariojv: hi! random question - I might be overlooking it, but do you have any work in progress on http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/not-implemented/notifications.html ? | 20:06 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: any idea if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182736 is still useful? looks like ramesh abandoned it a while back, but at a glance, it still looks relevant | 20:11 |
| * NobodyCam takes a peek | 20:11 | |
| adam_g | hi ironic people. i realized im still listed as stable branch liaison for ironic @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Stable_Branch .. anyone want to step up and take my place? | 20:12 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: I believe nisha has newer versions of that already | 20:13 |
| mariojv | devananda: not yet | 20:14 |
| mariojv | i don't expect to have a lot of time to work on it until mid to late Feb. or later | 20:14 |
| devananda | mariojv: ack, thanks for the update | 20:15 |
| mariojv | np | 20:15 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240136/ maybe | 20:15 |
| devananda | mariojv: do you mind if someone else has time to jump in there? | 20:15 |
| mariojv | not at all | 20:15 |
| NobodyCam | brb | 20:15 |
| mariojv | i'm happy to contribute reviews if someone gets to it first | 20:16 |
| jroll | adam_g: I think dtantsur|afk expressed interest, but you could just delete my name there and effectively end up passing it to me | 20:17 |
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| adam_g | jroll, you mean just leave it blank and default it to you? | 20:18 |
| jroll | adam_g: yeah | 20:18 |
| adam_g | jroll, k | 20:18 |
| jroll | and I can bug dmitry | 20:18 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: yea, looks like it is there already. thanks. I'll abandon that | 20:18 |
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| devananda | adam_g: I think jroll and I are the only project cores with commit rights on stable branch right now -- so I think it falls to us | 20:19 |
| jroll | devananda: dmitry has commit bit | 20:19 |
| jroll | I gave it to him so things were a bit less stagnant | 20:19 |
| devananda | jroll: oh awesome | 20:20 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 20:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost: Remove excess/un-needed entries from dnsmasq template https://review.openstack.org/268807 | 20:41 |
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| zer0c00l | Looks like gate-ironic-specs-docs gate-ironic-specs-python27 are failing as well? | 20:42 |
| zer0c00l | rloo: ^^ ? | 20:43 |
| zer0c00l | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248968/ | 20:43 |
| rloo | zer0c00l: ? looking... | 20:43 |
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| rloo | zer0c00l: looks like a problem with argparse package :-( | 20:44 |
| zer0c00l | rloo: yeah | 20:45 |
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| mrda | Morning Ironic | 20:58 |
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| NobodyCam | morning mrda | 20:59 |
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| jroll | zer0c00l: rloo: it's the pip 8 problem, lots of people working on it | 21:00 |
| rloo | jroll, thx. i thought they fixed it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269954/ but maybe there is more to it than that | 21:01 |
| rloo | good excuse for not reviewing specs... | 21:01 |
| rloo | morning mrda! | 21:01 |
| jroll | rloo: I think there's more to it, I've seen folks working on it all day | 21:02 |
| jroll | hiya mrda | 21:02 |
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| mrda | hey jroll and rloo! | 21:02 |
| mrda | and NobodyCam :) | 21:02 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 21:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost: Sync from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/270489 | 21:26 |
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| jlvillal | Should we worry? http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/01/linux-bug-imperils-tens-of-millions-of-pcs-servers-and-android-phones/ | 21:39 |
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| mgagne | jroll I'm trying to find the presentation where you talked about Ironic scalability. I'm looking for numbers, even if they might be outdated. Can you help? | 22:31 |
| jroll | mgagne: help find that talk or help answer numbers questions? | 22:32 |
| jroll | :) | 22:32 |
| mgagne | jroll anything which results in numbers =) | 22:32 |
| jroll | well, what questions are you looking to answer? | 22:32 |
| mgagne | jroll all I remember is 1k nodes but I don't know the context of that number :D | 22:32 |
| jroll | oh | 22:32 |
| mgagne | jroll max nodes before it starts wrapping spacetime I would say | 22:33 |
| jroll | so we've had no issues with 1k+ nodes per cell, haven't pushed it much further than that afaik | 22:33 |
| jroll | and run about 250 nodes per conductor | 22:33 |
| jroll | this is agent_ipmitool driver, btw | 22:34 |
| mgagne | right | 22:34 |
| mgagne | one cell per region? | 22:34 |
| jroll | I expect ironic can scale to 10k on its own, but idk how nova would behave | 22:34 |
| jroll | I can't say how many nodes total we have, sorry | 22:34 |
| jroll | (we only have one region today, so) | 22:35 |
| mgagne | jroll right, so ironic alone can support 10k+ for people using bifrost. unknown territory for 1k+ with nova? | 22:36 |
| JayF | I would probably start to have concerns about populating ironic node info into RT at that scale | 22:36 |
| jroll | right, I'd be worried about the scheduler/RT | 22:36 |
| jroll | and also, 10k was just a guess | 22:37 |
| jroll | I don't have any hard data on ironic standalone | 22:37 |
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| mgagne | I'm more concerned about scheduler/RT. We are already seeing issues at very low scale with kilo. | 22:38 |
| mgagne | and we are seeing similar issues with Nova alone when little resources are available to schedule and incoming requests rate is "medium/high". | 22:38 |
| mgagne | ok found https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-paris-summit-2014/session-videos/presentation/scaling-ironic | 22:39 |
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| mgagne | RT looks to be the main bottleneck | 22:39 |
| mgagne | and external systems latency/performance | 22:39 |
| jroll | yeah | 22:40 |
| jroll | I don't remember what external systems, now I'm curious | 22:40 |
| mgagne | IPMI =) | 22:41 |
| mgagne | we have our own with probably similar latency/performance issue so I guess, same side-effects in Ironic apply | 22:41 |
| mgagne | I think I now have my answer, thanks! | 22:44 |
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| jroll | oh yeah, ipmi is the worst | 22:47 |
| jroll | you're welcome :) | 22:47 |
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