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| naohirot | good morning ironic | 00:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Ironic Management Interfaces to support UEFI Secure Boot https://review.openstack.org/135845 | 07:41 |
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| dtantsur | Morning Ironic | 08:44 |
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| DenisEgorenko | hi all :) who can help me with setup ironic baremetal + neutron? | 09:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Tan Lin proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Add driver internal info field to nodes table https://review.openstack.org/148944 | 09:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/149707 | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/149978 | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Improve ironic-dbsync help strings https://review.openstack.org/147746 | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Clear locks on conductor startup https://review.openstack.org/149038 | 10:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Fix function docstring of _get_boot_iso_object_name() https://review.openstack.org/149911 | 10:58 |
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| tteggel | devananda: thanks for stable/juno reviews and for fixing my commit message :) | 11:25 |
| devananda | tteggel: np! | 11:25 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, morning :) that's pretty early over there no? Or are u in EU already? | 11:26 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: g'morning! yah, it's early, but I"m in a hotel room and not sleeping | 11:27 |
| dtantsur | devananda, wow morning | 11:27 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, I see :) nice! | 11:30 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: I'll be in Brussels on friday | 11:31 |
| lucasagomes | FOSDEM? | 11:31 |
| devananda | yah | 11:32 |
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| lucasagomes | Nice! Hope it will be a good one. I wish I could go, it was in my plans but I just came back from Brazil and will spend the weekend here with gf etc... | 11:33 |
| lucasagomes | but I will be in france on Monday, probably will see you there | 11:33 |
| lucasagomes | and friday there's the beer event! (I bet they do have whiskey too) so enjoy it! | 11:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/ironic: Add a TODO file https://review.openstack.org/149777 | 11:37 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: yea, going to the dinner on Friday at least. I should be getting into Grenoble Monday morning, or at least in time for lunch | 11:39 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, cool... lemme check my flight time | 11:40 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: where are you flying in to? | 11:40 |
| lucasagomes | lyon | 11:40 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: neat. me too | 11:41 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: you need a ride? | 11:42 |
| lucasagomes | my flight 15:10 :/ | 11:42 |
| lucasagomes | I think it's a bit late for u | 11:42 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, are you driving back to lyon on saturday morning ? | 11:43 |
| devananda | yes. quite early | 11:43 |
| devananda | Departure local time: 07:00 - 07 Feb 15 | 11:44 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, oh, can I get a ride with you then? my flight from lyon is very early too 9:35 | 11:44 |
| devananda | sure | 11:45 |
| lucasagomes | Awesome thanks, I was checking the trains early on sat, the times were pretty short... | 11:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/149707 | 11:51 |
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| devananda | gilliard: hi! I was looking at 146099 just now - it looks like the parent patch merged, but in a way that left this patch unable to merge | 12:17 |
| devananda | gilliard: like there are a bunch of changes to drivers/modules/pxe.py missing now | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/ironic: Add one more unit test for get_glance_image_properties https://review.openstack.org/150013 | 12:20 |
| devananda | gilliard: when you've fixed the pep8 error and rebased, I've added one more unit test on top. feel free to squash this into your patch, or what ever makes sense | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic: Add support for driver-specific periodic tasks https://review.openstack.org/147523 | 12:24 |
| gilliard | devananda: Thanks. Are you at the nova midcycle? | 12:24 |
| devananda | gilliard: yes | 12:24 |
| dtantsur | ^^^ implemented but blocked on Oslo reviews | 12:24 |
| gilliard | devananda: See you in a few hours then :) | 12:25 |
| gilliard | I'll see if I can fix up 146099 before then. | 12:26 |
| dtantsur | maybe someone here is by chance an Oslo core? :) | 12:27 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, ping re boot interface, did you get some time to look at it? | 12:28 |
| devananda | dtantsur: what's blocked? | 12:36 |
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| dtantsur | devananda, driver-specific periodic tasks. I have 2 oslo patches to avoid too much copy-paste there: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148854/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147567/ | 12:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Gilliard proposed openstack/ironic: Adds get_glance_image_properties https://review.openstack.org/146099 | 13:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Naohiro Tamura proposed openstack/ironic: Replace DIB installation step from git clone to pip https://review.openstack.org/149904 | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/ironic: Rename NOSTATE to AVAILABLE https://review.openstack.org/149754 | 13:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Naohiro Tamura proposed openstack/ironic: Replace DIB installation step from git clone to pip https://review.openstack.org/149904 | 14:11 |
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| lucasagomes | lol http://xkcd.com/394/ ! | 14:17 |
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| jroll | lucasagomes: morning, I've poked a bit but haven't done anything substantial :/ | 14:21 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, morning! I see, no worries | 14:22 |
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| * devananda feels bad for all the people whose flights are cancelled right now, and wonders whether his flight on thursday is going to be cancelled too | 14:34 | |
| lucasagomes | devananda, :/ oh what happened? strike? | 14:38 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: blizzard. bad one | 14:39 |
| lucasagomes | oh damn :/ | 14:41 |
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| Shrews | devananda: i'm wondering if monty is reconsidering his move back to ny right now :) | 14:41 |
| devananda | flights through tomorrow are already cancelled. | 14:41 |
| lucasagomes | :/ | 14:43 |
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| devananda | Shrews: he did move back just in time for "record breaking" snow | 14:47 |
| rloo | Happy Monday ironickers :-) | 14:47 |
| NobodyCam | good morning Ironicers | 14:48 |
| NobodyCam | happy monday rloo | 14:48 |
| NobodyCam | morning lucasagomes devananda and dtantsur|brb | 14:48 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, hello there, morning! | 14:49 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, morning :) | 14:49 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 14:50 |
| jroll | morning devananda lucasagomes Shrews rloo NobodyCam :) | 14:51 |
| jroll | happy monday! | 14:51 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, morning! | 14:51 |
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| NobodyCam | morning jroll | 14:54 |
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| dtantsur | NobodyCam, morning! | 15:01 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 15:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Add a TODO file https://review.openstack.org/149777 | 15:01 |
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| jroll | great commit :D | 15:03 |
| jroll | \o dtantsur | 15:03 |
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| dtantsur | jroll, o/ | 15:03 |
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| * NobodyCam shakes fist at windows vm and attempts to fix its issues with a reboot | 15:11 | |
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| NobodyCam | in an effort to keep devananda awake | 15:15 |
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| NobodyCam | didn't we have a patch to allow depoly in any power state? | 15:35 |
| lucasagomes | I've put one up | 15:36 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149009/ | 15:37 |
| NobodyCam | w00t THank you lucasagomes | 15:37 |
| * NobodyCam add's ^^^ to his review list | 15:37 | |
| * rloo likes the TODO list but wonders why we put it in git vs eg the main etherpad | 15:40 | |
| NobodyCam | rloo: for all to see? | 15:41 |
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| rloo | NobodyCam: we also have wikis for all to see? | 15:42 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 15:42 |
| * lucasagomes ansewers dtantsur_ question on that patch | 15:42 | |
| NobodyCam | for folks who code on planes with out internets? | 15:43 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: it isn't clear to me where docn stuff goes; wiki, dev docs, etherpads, code base...? | 15:43 |
| * NobodyCam looks over deva's travel schuedule and shutters. | 15:43 | |
| rloo | NobodyCam: is deva's travel schedule avail for all to see? :-) | 15:44 |
| NobodyCam | I thin that depends on the content.. thay can really go in all of those places | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/ironic: Add MANAGEABLE state and associated transitions https://review.openstack.org/150073 | 15:44 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: its on his cal not sure that is shared externally | 15:46 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: you HP folks! At least we know we can ask you of his whereabouts ;) | 15:47 |
| NobodyCam | lol :) | 15:47 |
| NobodyCam | brb quick smoke before 8:00 am conf call | 15:48 |
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| jroll | lucasagomes: got a sec? | 15:52 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, hi there, sure | 15:53 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143480/4/specs/kilo/network-provider.rst I don't think we can support pxe booting the instance as we would only be able to pxe boot on the provisioning network | 15:53 |
| jroll | can't think of how to 1) have tenant on a different vlan than ironic, and 2) still be able to tftp | 15:53 |
| lucasagomes | right... yeah for 2) we are adding support for local boot so that would work | 15:54 |
| jroll | right | 15:55 |
| jroll | it'll have to be local boot only I think | 15:55 |
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| lucasagomes | yeah, probably... I was thinking because, this thing about the ramdisk having to reboot is a bit odd | 15:55 |
| lucasagomes | not related to that spec, but I think ironic should control when the machine is rebooted | 15:55 |
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| jroll | yeah, agree | 15:56 |
| lucasagomes | say ramdisk calls continue_deploy -> ironic writes the image onto the iscsi disk and signilize the ramdisk -> ramdisk do whatever it needs to do and call another vendor_passthru method passing the control over to ironic again | 15:56 |
| lucasagomes | so ironic can reboot it from there | 15:56 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, alright... so... as it's not complete related to that spec, and it would only work for local boot which is not upstream right now | 15:57 |
| lucasagomes | I think u can ignore that comment | 15:57 |
| jroll | right ok | 15:58 |
| jroll | cool | 15:58 |
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| lucasagomes | jroll, also, this may interest you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149009/ | 16:00 |
| jroll | yep, on my list | 16:01 |
| jroll | open in a tab even :P | 16:01 |
| jroll | I'll just do it now | 16:01 |
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| lucasagomes | heh no hurry... just in case u want to take a look as it now has 2+2 | 16:01 |
| jroll | yeah, thanks | 16:02 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: all the deploy drivers call reboot in deploy()? | 16:02 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, yeah apparently in tree they all do that | 16:03 |
| lucasagomes | so it's not needed to check for the power state before | 16:03 |
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| jroll | cool | 16:03 |
| * jroll will trust you | 16:03 | |
| * lucasagomes tested with pxe_ipmitool locally only... | 16:03 | |
| lucasagomes | in case u want to give it a whril with the agent driver | 16:04 |
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| jroll | bam +a | 16:04 |
| lucasagomes | :) | 16:04 |
| jroll | we already have this patch downstream, I think someone yelled at me when I tried to submit it | 16:04 |
| lucasagomes | oh | 16:05 |
| lucasagomes | idk, I think it's an very old behavior we had... nodes should be powered off prior to start a deployment | 16:05 |
| lucasagomes | but it's up to the driver to determine that (and try to power off the node is it's not) | 16:06 |
| lucasagomes | not the manager | 16:06 |
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| jroll | oh I did it differently and got blocked because specs | 16:06 |
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| lucasagomes | and that's ^ actually about being able to set the instance_uuid not even call deploy() | 16:06 |
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| jroll | oh JoshNang did it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86744/21 | 16:07 |
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| lucasagomes | oh I think remember that patch indeed | 16:07 |
| jroll | yeah, I think we assumed if power was on then it was in a state transition or active | 16:08 |
| lucasagomes | yeah | 16:08 |
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| jroll | JoshNang: I think we can kill that patch btw if you want to abandon it | 16:09 |
| lucasagomes | + the way it was before, by checking at node.update() doesn't guarantee much. One could update the instance_info when the node was power off, then call powered on (or power on the node manually, idk) and only then call deploy() | 16:09 |
| jroll | I'm going to abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103622/ as it depends on that and only really changes what lucasagomes' patch fixed | 16:09 |
| jroll | right | 16:09 |
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| JoshNang | jroll: wfm! | 16:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Allow associate an instance independent of the node power state https://review.openstack.org/149009 | 16:41 |
| NobodyCam | nice !!! | 16:42 |
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| NobodyCam | five minutes | 16:55 |
| NobodyCam | last chance for coffee | 16:55 |
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| NobodyCam | thank you all | 18:00 |
| jroll | 18:00:24 naohirot | jroll: If review didn't ended by the deadline, then we have to go to the next step. <- what's the next step? | 18:00 |
| NobodyCam | good discussion | 18:00 |
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| jroll | so yeah, we should collect what specs are landed, which are in flight, decide what review priorities are for kilo-2 and maybe the rest of kilo | 18:01 |
| devananda | jroll: ++ | 18:01 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, +1 yeah for setting the priorities | 18:01 |
| jroll | I feel like we haven't talked about this recently | 18:01 |
| naohirot | jroll: hi | 18:01 |
| NobodyCam | yes! | 18:01 |
| devananda | for me, they haven't changed since the summit, when I felt like it was fairly clear | 18:01 |
| devananda | but I suppose half way through the cycle, yah, we need to visit that again | 18:02 |
| jroll | did we write those down anywhere though? | 18:02 |
| NobodyCam | maybe a one monthly meeting of the cores to discuss upcomming priorities | 18:02 |
| naohirot | jroll: I mean, for example, set a dead line for a sepec review, all comment by the deadline are valid. | 18:02 |
| jroll | naohirot: and not allow comments after the deadline? that makes me sad. | 18:03 |
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| jroll | naohirot: it's hard on a project with a diverse team from around the world that may not work on upstream 100% of the time | 18:03 |
| dtantsur | no comments - no +2s! :) | 18:03 |
| rloo | it would be interesting to do a post mortem (or whatever) on some specs. I'm not convinced you'd be able to get all/most comments from one revision of a spec. | 18:03 |
| naohirot | jroll: after the deadline, even if there still things to update, we go to next phase. | 18:03 |
| jroll | lol dtantsur | 18:03 |
| rloo | and it would be interesting to see which revision (aside from the last) was 'good enuf' for a spec to have been approved | 18:03 |
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| naohirot | jroll: but at the same time, spec will be updated after merge. | 18:03 |
| devananda | jroll: they're still in the etherapd | 18:04 |
| jroll | oh whaddya know | 18:04 |
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| naohirot | jroll: we can coding and update spec at the same time. | 18:04 |
| dtantsur | naohirot, that's just making the process more vague IMO without speeding it up... | 18:04 |
| devananda | Kilo 1 | 18:04 |
| devananda | splitting boot and deploy | 18:04 |
| devananda | state machineKilo 1 | 18:04 |
| devananda | splitting boot and deploy | 18:04 |
| devananda | bah. network hiccup | 18:04 |
| dtantsur | naohirot, you already can :) your code will be blocked with -2 for some time, but you can collect feedback anyway | 18:05 |
| dtantsur | that's what we often do actually | 18:05 |
| jroll | I often post code before I post the spec :P | 18:05 |
| naohirot | dtantsur: really? did I have -2? | 18:05 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, heh yeah me too. I mean, I usually understand better the problem coding than just thinking about it | 18:05 |
| dtantsur | naohirot, do you have code proposed without spec approved? I can -2 it for you :) | 18:06 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes, jroll ++ | 18:06 |
| NobodyCam | brb... bbt. | 18:07 |
| naohirot | dtantsur: sorry I got behind the conversation | 18:07 |
| rloo | devananda: since the priorities for kilo are on the etherpad, why add a TODO file too? | 18:07 |
| jroll | devananda: "exposing hardware capabilities" has bumped to L or no? | 18:07 |
| jroll | rloo: the TODO file sounds like even higher level than a cycle | 18:08 |
| dtantsur | naohirot, my point is: nobody is preventing you from proposing code before spec is approved. we just won't merge it, but please feel free anyway | 18:08 |
| naohirot | devananda: what do you mean by that "do you have code proposed without spec approved?" | 18:08 |
| naohirot | naohirot: sorry to dtantsur | 18:08 |
| Shrews | i sort of like the TODO file for other folks who may not know where to find our etherpads | 18:08 |
| rloo | jroll: oh... I wonder how useful it is if it is even higher level. I mean, it is useful, but putting it in git? | 18:08 |
| jroll | naohirot: we don't land new code without the spec being approved, so approving part of the spec doesn't really make any progress, the whole thing needs to be done to land code | 18:08 |
| jroll | rloo: dunno, I don't have a problem with it though | 18:09 |
| naohirot | dtantsur: jroll: I'm taking about spec, not code. | 18:09 |
| jroll | right | 18:09 |
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| jroll | but the point of writing a spec is to write code no? | 18:09 |
| rloo | Shrews: but we have other stuff/doc that aren't in git, but in wikis. | 18:10 |
| jroll | I don't see the usefulness of landing a partial spec based on an arbitrary deadline | 18:10 |
| dtantsur | jroll, ++ | 18:10 |
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| naohirot | jroll: dtantsur: my point is that seeking 100% perfect spec is realistic. | 18:12 |
| dtantsur | devananda, re vendor passthru as an experimental area: I'm afraid people will just put some bad code there and forget about it. there won't be any desire to standardize it, it's more out (as a core team) duty to make sure it happens... | 18:12 |
| * dtantsur brb | 18:12 | |
| rloo | naohirot: do you mean s/realistic/unrealistic/? (Not that I've been paying attention) | 18:12 |
| naohirot | jroll: dtantsur: 80%, 90% spec is ready, then merge, start coding and update 20% of spec at the same time. | 18:13 |
| jroll | naohirot: we've done it plenty of times before | 18:13 |
| jroll | naohirot: you can start coding at any time | 18:13 |
| lucasagomes | naohirot, yeah... you can mark the code as WIP | 18:13 |
| jroll | naohirot: you don't have to wait for the spec to be merged to write code | 18:13 |
| lucasagomes | naohirot, I find it much easier to write a spec when I code at the same time | 18:14 |
| rloo | naohirot: sorry, I think 100% PERFECT spec is unrealistic. but I don't think that's what you meant. | 18:14 |
| lucasagomes | smetimes I see things I wouldn't see otherwise | 18:14 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 18:15 |
| lucasagomes | just an idea... what you guys think about trello cards for prioratizing the things we should work on? | 18:15 |
| naohirot | jroll: yes, I'm coding right now, but in case of iRMC spec, I pretty much have reflected all of comments. | 18:15 |
| lucasagomes | I find it a good tool to keep in track | 18:15 |
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| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: we tried trillo and gsve up I believe | 18:15 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yeah I remember a very old one we had | 18:15 |
| naohirot | jroll: so this is my first OSS project, I feel some gap how to process the development in company. | 18:16 |
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| NobodyCam | we could attempt to condense the 17+ ether pads we have (that /me knows about) down to a more managable number | 18:17 |
| Shrews | NobodyCam: omg, yes | 18:17 |
| wanyen | I would like to talk about node zapping. | 18:18 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, +1 | 18:18 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: shoot | 18:18 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 18:18 |
| JoshNang | wanyen: sure | 18:18 |
| wanyen | there ar e a few thing ilo driver would like ot do with node zapping and we don't depend on capability spec | 18:19 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: could you give me some background on the bug fix (which you did) which is backported here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150096/ | 18:19 |
| * naohirot maybe I did a lot of waterfall process. | 18:19 | |
| JayF | lucasagomes: I think it's silly to talk about priorities as a project | 18:19 |
| JayF | lucasagomes: when most of us are beholden to the priorities our employers have | 18:19 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: it looks like it only affects the agent if used with long-running ramdisks, but I am not immediatelys ure, and it doesn't say | 18:19 |
| devananda | JayF: exactly | 18:19 |
| lucasagomes | JayF, sure, I want to consider that bit too | 18:19 |
| wanyen | ilo node property introspection spec already discover soem hw proeprtyies and genreated node capabilities. | 18:20 |
| devananda | there are some shared priorities | 18:20 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: thats the backport of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149009/ | 18:20 |
| JayF | the problem is: we all have different priorities and haven't been doing a good enough job of reviews to help folks with different priorities | 18:20 |
| devananda | like implementing the state machine | 18:20 |
| devananda | or splitting boot & deploy interfae | 18:20 |
| lucasagomes | JayF, where we can talk about our priorities internally, and try to align it upstream | 18:20 |
| devananda | and then there are driver-specific things (whether agent or ilo or dract ...) | 18:20 |
| devananda | and then there are some things taht some peopel share and others don't | 18:20 |
| wanyen | so ilo node zapping can do raid config and user can enter raid level as flavor | 18:20 |
| lifeless | oh aye there are :) | 18:20 |
| JayF | lucasagomes: I think that's really difficult, especially when business moves at a different (slower in some cases, faster in others) pace than openstack | 18:20 |
| devananda | and there are a LOT of things which everyone needs right now that aren't getting much love from anyone | 18:21 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, hi, yes... Well couple of things there, first like it was blocking instance_uuid to be updated if the node was powered on | 18:21 |
| JoshNang | wanyen: what's the benefit of doing it through zapping vs vendor passthru? | 18:21 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, nothing would prevent someone from updating the instance_uuid and then powering on the node and start the deployment | 18:21 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, it also was poking the BMC syncrhounously when updating the instance_uuid field | 18:22 |
| wanyen | JoshNang: I thought zapping is the place we agree to do this kind of operation | 18:22 |
| lucasagomes | I just thought it was a silly check to us to have, since all drivers can start a deployment indenednet if the node is powered on or off | 18:22 |
| wanyen | JoshNang, are you not planning working on node zapping spec for Kilo? | 18:23 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: pxe driver, for instance, requires the node to power-on after the DHCP config is prepared | 18:23 |
| lucasagomes | also that would give more power to the driver decide which state the node should be prior to dpeloyment, and if it's not in the desired power state the driver could then first try to get it to the power state it needs to (say power off) | 18:23 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah we do it | 18:23 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: so if the ndoe is already powered on, is this going to reboot it? | 18:23 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, we do reboot at the end of deploy() | 18:23 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yes | 18:23 |
| lucasagomes | reboot = power off and on | 18:23 |
| JoshNang | wanyen: i would like to get it in, yes | 18:23 |
| lucasagomes | JayF, yehs it's difficult, but we could try | 18:23 |
| wanyen | JoshNang: good. Becaue ilo driver is depending on it. | 18:24 |
| devananda | oh, i see. | 18:24 |
| devananda | 350 manager_utils.node_power_action(task, states.REBOOT) | 18:24 |
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| lucasagomes | JayF, my example here was what people in swift did. I watched the swift PTL talk at lca2015 | 18:24 |
| JoshNang | wanyen: but to be frank, i got distracted by an internal project for the past few weeks and haven't had time to start implementing cleaning yet (had to throw out what we did downstream, as it's not the same) | 18:24 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: I think that used to be just POWER_ON | 18:24 |
| lucasagomes | JayF, and it was explicity about it, lemme get the link for you. It really worth watching | 18:24 |
| lucasagomes | JayF, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoycrMu9iPY | 18:25 |
| lucasagomes | and any other person interested on ^ | 18:25 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah, I think we changed it now | 18:25 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, you good with that? | 18:25 |
| wanyen | JoshNang, I think one benefit of node zapping is that deploy can do several operations via node zapping. | 18:25 |
| wanyen | s/deploy/deployer | 18:26 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: lucasagomes that patch has landed in trunk | 18:26 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yeah, that other review is a backport | 18:26 |
| NobodyCam | yep | 18:26 |
| JoshNang | wanyen: oh i know, i'm a big proponent of zapping :) | 18:26 |
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| wanyen | JoshNang; ok. looking fwd tosee node zapping spec to move fwd. I need to go to a different meeting. so signing off now | 18:27 |
| * naohirot rloo naohirot: do you mean s/realistic/unrealistic/? -> Yes | 18:27 | |
| rloo | naohirot: ;) | 18:28 |
| naohirot | rloo: :) | 18:28 |
| rloo | naohirot: how do you feel now? did we help wrt the above discussion? or are you more confused or? | 18:28 |
| JoshNang | wanyen: alright. i'll update the spec | 18:28 |
| naohirot | rloo: a little bit fast to me, | 18:29 |
| naohirot | rloo: there may be a lot of misunderstanding | 18:29 |
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| rloo | naohirot: if you think there is room for improvement, eg clarifying things in our documentation that would help, please let us know. | 18:30 |
| naohirot | JayF: devananda: If there is still misunderstanding about iRMC spec, I'd like to discuss it, please little bit slow | 18:30 |
| JayF | naohirot: I +2'd after your new update. I don't think it reflects what was discussed in the meeting, but was laid out clearly enough that I didn't want to block it further | 18:31 |
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| naohirot | JayF: really? I relieved :) | 18:32 |
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| naohirot | rloo: Yes, I'll do that | 18:33 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: yup. but. should that be backported to stable/juno? | 18:33 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, hmm well, I don't think so | 18:33 |
| lucasagomes | I mean, it's not sometime that HAVE to be backported | 18:33 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, what are the policies for backporting stuff? should it be like a high/critical bug? | 18:34 |
| lucasagomes | cause that's not, that's medium/low | 18:34 |
| adam_g | lucasagomes, medium/lows usually get backported if they are trivial | 18:35 |
| adam_g | at least in other projects | 18:35 |
| lucasagomes | adam_g, I see... so yeah that backport makes sense | 18:36 |
| lucasagomes | it's a 16L code change (with tests) | 18:36 |
| adam_g | lucasagomes, which patch? having trouble finding it in backscroll | 18:36 |
| lucasagomes | not changed... added... | 18:36 |
| lucasagomes | adam_g, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150096/ | 18:36 |
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| * naohirot I go to bed and sleep by the noon, see you all :) | 18:37 | |
| rloo | night naohirot | 18:37 |
| lucasagomes | naohirot, g'night | 18:37 |
| NobodyCam | night naohirot | 18:37 |
| naohirot | rloo: lucasagomes: NobodyCam: bye! | 18:37 |
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| adam_g | lucasagomes, that looks reasonable | 18:38 |
| lucasagomes | adam_g, alright, thanks! | 18:38 |
| rloo | lucasagomes, adam_g: wrt that backport. I'd feel more comfortable if we waited a bit (not sure how long) for fixes to be backported unless we're sure they're big bugs. Just in case the original change wasn't quite what we wanted. | 18:40 |
| rloo | lucasagomes, adam_g. an example being one that was backported last week, that actually needed 2 changes from master. | 18:40 |
| rloo | lucasagomes, adam_g. although to be honest, it was while reviewing the backport that someone noticed that the original change wasn't quite right. | 18:40 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, that's a good point. Like this change we are using as ref was merged a couple of hours ago on master | 18:41 |
| lucasagomes | I see the benefit in waiting a bit | 18:41 |
| adam_g | rloo, so requiring fixes to bake in master for N days or something before backporting it? | 18:41 |
| lucasagomes | I don't know much about the backporting policies, nor do I have +2 rights to the branches | 18:41 |
| rloo | adam_g: yeah. what do you think? don't know if you've seen cases where a backport had to be undone or updated. | 18:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Implement Zapping States https://review.openstack.org/140826 | 18:42 |
| rloo | adam_g: I think we've seen global requirement patches that have gotten changed. | 18:42 |
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| adam_g | rloo, that kind of policy isn't really enforced elsewhere as part of the global stable policies, but we are free to do so for ironic only. it makes sense--other non-openstack projets have similar rules | 18:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Implement Zapping States https://review.openstack.org/140826 | 18:43 |
| rloo | adam_g: at the very least, I think tripleo folks will find things that we broke for them, within 1-2 days of a change ;) | 18:43 |
| lucasagomes | I'm good with that, we may want to write it down on the wiki so people from the core group of the stable branches can consult | 18:44 |
| lucasagomes | and wait for N days before +a that change | 18:44 |
| rloo | well, maybe the stable-branch-core-group can decide if they like it or not ;) | 18:44 |
| lucasagomes | (devananda and adam_g can decide it, seince they are the core gourp now) | 18:44 |
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| lucasagomes | yeah | 18:45 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, exactly | 18:45 |
| gilliard | Did we persuade NobodyCam to be a core reviewer? | 18:45 |
| NobodyCam | hummm | 18:45 |
| rloo | gilliard: not sure. maybe offer him a beer (no, don't bribe) | 18:45 |
| adam_g | hmm. right now, ironic isn't really on the radar of the stable-maint group but it will be next cycle. it might be harder to enforce a per-project policy like that when the broader stable-maint team are approving things | 18:45 |
| lucasagomes | and folks I gotta go, it's late here | 18:45 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 18:45 |
| NobodyCam | have a good night lucasagomes | 18:46 |
| lucasagomes | have a good night everyone | 18:46 |
| rloo | night lucasagomes | 18:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Implement Zapping States https://review.openstack.org/140826 | 18:46 |
| gilliard | ciao | 18:46 |
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| NobodyCam | I could accept a back stable reviewer position | 18:46 |
| NobodyCam | s/back/backup/ | 18:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed openstack/ironic: Simplify policy.json https://review.openstack.org/148381 | 18:48 |
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| dtantsur|afk | g'night too | 18:51 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: do you have the link for the nova side of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150073 | 18:51 |
| NobodyCam | night dtantsur|afk | 18:51 |
| rloo | night dtantsur|afk | 18:51 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: there is no nova side for that patch | 18:52 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: and no need for one | 18:52 |
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| NobodyCam | quick post bbt walkies... brb | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Gilliard proposed openstack/ironic: Adds get_glance_image_properties https://review.openstack.org/146099 | 19:12 |
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| NobodyCam | JoshNang: have a second to reply to dmitry's prioritization between steps comments on the zapping spec? | 19:28 |
| JayF | I suspect he's commuting | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:29 |
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| JayF | please don't | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:30 |
| JayF | driving while texting is bad enough | 19:30 |
| JayF | hah | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | hehehe | 19:30 |
| JoshNang | NobodyCam: heh yeah I was on the train | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | hehehe | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | anyone had a chance to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142838 ???? | 19:38 |
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| Shrews | NobodyCam: i have not had a chance to look at 142838, but I know our friends in #tripleo are dealing with this bug quite frequently :( | 19:59 |
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| NobodyCam | Shrews: I was loking at the past on the last comment there | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | correct me if I am wrong. 'root_mb': 102400 is > 100 GB | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | never mind | 20:02 |
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| NobodyCam | brb | 20:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed openstack/ironic: Do not pass PXE net config from bootloader to ramdisk https://review.openstack.org/141148 | 20:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/ironic: Adds support for deploying whole disk images https://review.openstack.org/150142 | 21:03 |
| NobodyCam | brb | 21:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Gilliard proposed openstack/ironic: Adds get_glance_image_properties https://review.openstack.org/146099 | 21:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/ironic: Add MANAGEABLE state and associated transitions https://review.openstack.org/150073 | 22:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/ironic: Rename NOSTATE to AVAILABLE https://review.openstack.org/149754 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/ironic: Add MANAGEABLE state and associated transitions https://review.openstack.org/150073 | 22:14 |
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| devananda | needs unit tests, but it's starting to shape up ^^ | 22:29 |
| devananda | adam_g: the partial migration test, that landed in experimental alraedy, right? | 22:31 |
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| adam_g | devananda, kinda. the job is running in the pipeline but needs patches to devstack-gate + grenade | 22:32 |
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| devananda | oh | 22:32 |
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| adam_g | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:ironic_partial,n,z | 22:32 |
| adam_g | somewhat related, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148381/ gets us a clean juno->kilo full grenade upgrade | 22:33 |
| devananda | awesome | 22:33 |
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| devananda | once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149760/ lands in Nova, I'll want to start doing the partial experimental test on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149754/ and all its dependents | 22:34 |
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| adam_g | devananda, cool. i dont expect it to require much more than those patches to grenade+dsg | 22:35 |
| adam_g | to at least get it running | 22:35 |
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| devananda | sweet | 22:36 |
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| NobodyCam | grrr brb | 22:43 |
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| tonyb | devananda: The mails come from "From: OpenStack Nova <auto-message@eventbrite.com>" | 22:45 |
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| devananda | tonyb: oh! found it | 22:52 |
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| tonyb | devananda: cool. My work here is done. | 22:53 |
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| NobodyCam | Shrews: you run a mac yes? | 23:09 |
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| Shrews | NobodyCam: yes | 23:11 |
| NobodyCam | can you run our test locally | 23:12 |
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| Shrews | NobodyCam: ironic unit tests? no | 23:12 |
| Shrews | NobodyCam: i have a bug open about it | 23:13 |
| NobodyCam | http://paste.openstack.org/show/CJPTVGbkTm4VQgaiUtJh | 23:13 |
| NobodyCam | Shrews: pbr | 23:13 |
| NobodyCam | ? | 23:13 |
| Shrews | NobodyCam: no | 23:14 |
| NobodyCam | ok.. I've been plaged by "ImportError: No module named pbr.version" | 23:14 |
| Shrews | NobodyCam: http://paste.openstack.org/show/CJPTVGbkTm4VQgaiUtJh | 23:15 |
| Shrews | err | 23:15 |
| Shrews | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1329077 | 23:15 |
| NobodyCam | hehe | 23:15 |
| NobodyCam | ahh yes | 23:16 |
| Shrews | NobodyCam: i'm guessing the pbr thing is too old of a setuptools, but not sure. about to head out, but there are many obstacles in your way | 23:16 |
| NobodyCam | yes !!! | 23:16 |
| NobodyCam | have a good time Shrews I'll hack at it | 23:17 |
| jroll | "would you be comfortable with this person pushing code to your production environment while you sleep? that's a good candidate for a core reviewer." | 23:18 |
| jroll | I like | 23:18 |
| jroll | great talk lucas mentioned earlier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoycrMu9iPY | 23:18 |
| jroll | (by notmyname) | 23:18 |
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