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| saripurigopi | Hi, when I try to launch a baremetal instance , It is failing with the below error. | 04:25 |
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| saripurigopi | 2014-11-10 09:46:07.779 31897 TRACE ironic.dhcp.neutron NeutronClientException: Cannot update read-only attribute mac_address | 04:26 |
| saripurigopi | is this a known issue? any inputs on how to fix this ? | 04:26 |
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| GheRivero | morning Ironic! | 08:18 |
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| dtantsur | morning Ironic! | 08:39 |
| erwan_taf | heya | 08:41 |
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| vinbs | morning ironic! | 08:42 |
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| dtantsur | ifarkas, hey! so I'm leaving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107981/ up to you again, right? | 09:43 |
| ifarkas | dtantsur, hi, yeah, I will take it from now on! Thanks for taking care of it! | 09:43 |
| dtantsur | np :) | 09:44 |
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| lucasagomes | ifarkas, w00t! welcome back :) | 09:46 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, ifarkas morning | 09:47 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes, o/ how was your trip back? | 09:47 |
| ifarkas | lucasagomes, thank! \o/ | 09:47 |
| ifarkas | lucasagomes, and good morning! | 09:47 |
| rameshg87 | morning everyone :) | 09:47 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, it was grand, I realized that Paris->Dublin is quicker than I thought only 1h15m (I thought it would be 2h). What about urs? | 09:49 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, yo, morning :) | 09:49 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, morning! | 09:49 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, no jetlag? | 09:49 |
| dtantsur | rameshg87, morning! | 09:50 |
| rameshg87 | good morning ifarkas, dtantsur | 09:50 |
| pensu1 | Morning everyone! and welcome back! | 09:50 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes, mine was fine, though the weather was not great | 09:50 |
| dtantsur | pensu1, hi, thanks! | 09:50 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: not much. it's only +4.30 for me. :) | 09:50 |
| lucasagomes | pensu1, hey ya morning | 09:50 |
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| lucasagomes | dtantsur, I see well... winter is coming :) | 09:51 |
| dtantsur | :) | 09:51 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, I see, good | 09:51 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: how was your return journey ? | 09:52 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, grand, pretty quick man. I couldn't even take a nap in the plane | 09:53 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: :) | 09:53 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: i had a question for you - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107981/10 | 09:54 |
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| dtantsur | brb | 09:55 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, sure | 09:56 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: are you planning to continue with vendor passthru or do it as a long-running/short-running task ? | 09:56 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: based on the discussions we had in the summit | 09:57 |
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| ifarkas | rameshg87, yeah, I think both. The vendor passthru is needed because we don't have yet a unified raid interface, and the tasks are for updating the status as it is async on the drac card | 09:58 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, am I missing something? | 09:58 |
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| rameshg87 | ifarkas: yeah, but i was just wondering how it will be triggered during provisioning | 10:01 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: will it be triggered before deploying ? | 10:01 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: just trying to understand your use-case | 10:02 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: i am interested in this because we are planning to propose one for ilo in kilo | 10:02 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, definitely before deploying. I think the zapping state is a good candidate for this type of task | 10:03 |
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| * lucasagomes loves zapping! | 10:06 | |
| lucasagomes | I mean the name | 10:06 |
| ifarkas | hehe | 10:06 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: was away for a moment | 10:11 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: sorry | 10:11 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: is it supposed to be used by the operator as well ? | 10:12 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: the vendor passthru | 10:12 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, yes | 10:14 |
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| rameshg87 | ifarkas: so the operator would first enroll the baremetal node, put node on maintanence, run the vendor passthru to configure the raid, then set maintanence to false ? | 10:19 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, I think the node first will be in init state and the operator can move it to zapping or available | 10:22 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: yeah, but if it is done as part of zapping then it wouldn't require it to be a vendor-passthru, right ? | 10:23 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, once it's done, it will move automatically to available | 10:23 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, yes | 10:24 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: we might need some framework for zapping, but that wouldn't be a vendor-passthru, right ? | 10:24 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, I think the operator can use any interface at that point, not? | 10:24 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: yeah, but operator can't anyway do raid configuration on a provisioned machine | 10:25 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, yes, that's correct | 10:26 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: if it was to be done only on unprovisioned machine, and if it is taken care by zapping, do we need a vendor-passthru then ? | 10:26 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, ironic should reject any modification to the raid configuration in provisioned state | 10:26 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: yes. | 10:26 |
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| ifarkas | rameshg87, the operator need to use an interface. I don't think it matters if it's the vendor-passthru or something else. The reason for now for vendor-passthru is that there's no agreement on how a raid interface should look like. Once there is, the drac raid configuration will also move to that interface | 10:28 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, does it make sense to you? | 10:28 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: yeah, but we can attempt to start something on adding this as zapping if you are interested | 10:29 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: *as part of zapping .. | 10:29 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, what do you mean? | 10:30 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, figuring out how the raid interface should look like? | 10:30 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: yeah | 10:31 |
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| sambetts | Good Morning Ironic | 10:32 |
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| ifarkas | rameshg87, yeah, makes sense | 10:33 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: one question, how long does raid configuration take ? | 10:33 |
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| rameshg87 | ifarkas: can it be part of the "prepare" initiated before deploy ? | 10:33 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, I think it's a couple minutes on the DRAC card, but haven't tested that extensively | 10:33 |
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| rameshg87 | ifarkas: may be we could manage a user request on the fly like "i need a baremetal with 50G disk configured on RAID 1" | 10:34 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, yeah, but that could also be done in the zapping state, not? | 10:35 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: would the configuration done during zapping become part of capability ? | 10:36 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, configuring raid sounds to me more like a configuration step then deploy | 10:36 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, I think so | 10:36 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: i am just wondering how will nova scheduler assign a correct node with raid controller and enough disk space | 10:36 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, putting it in node.properties? | 10:40 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: if we publish the configuration done during zapping as part of capability, would that mean that the node cannot be reconfigured - i mean i configured it on RAID1 as part of zapping but instead the request comes for doing it in RAID6? | 10:40 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, I think the operator can put it back to init and do the reconfiguration | 10:41 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: yeah, but it requires operator intervention | 10:43 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, yes, just like configuration of raid, not? | 10:43 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: yes. | 10:43 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: instead if it can be done as part of "prepare" (QCT), a lot of these can be simplified | 10:43 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: i mean ironic can do raid configuration on demand as part of the deploy | 10:44 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: if raid configuration is sufficiently faster :) | 10:44 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, that would also work | 10:46 |
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| ifarkas | rameshg87, maybe we should ask devananda for thoughts on this one | 10:46 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, or at least more people to express their opinion on this one | 10:46 |
| ifarkas | lucasagomes, dtantsur, do you have any thoughts on this? ^ | 10:47 |
| ifarkas | lucasagomes, dtantsur, whether raid configuration should go to zapping of deploying state? | 10:47 |
| dtantsur | I think we agreed for now not to have on-demand raid configuration | 10:48 |
| dtantsur | unless I'm missing something | 10:48 |
| * lucasagomes reads | 10:48 | |
| lucasagomes | It's unclear to me, as I understood it should go to zapping. But, this has to be discussed more, as rameshg87 pointed out it's also possible to use prepare() to do it as part of the deployment | 10:50 |
| lucasagomes | I think that it depends on the use case really, maybe should be configurable per driver | 10:51 |
| lucasagomes | if it can be fast enough to go on prepare() I don't see why not | 10:51 |
| lucasagomes | sambetts, morning | 10:53 |
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| sambetts | lucasagomes: morning | 10:56 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: yes, if we do it in prepare() scheduling becomes lot easier and node becomes flexible enough | 10:57 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: if it takes time, there's no other way though :) | 10:57 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, yeah that's why I think that it should be configurable | 10:57 |
| lucasagomes | because it may depend on the use case | 10:57 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: ifarkas: but i would love if we can configure raid on the same way on hp and dell server | 10:58 |
| lucasagomes | if one cares about deployment speed, for example for the RAX guys doing baremetal-to-tenant | 10:58 |
| lucasagomes | they would do it on zapping | 10:58 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: okay. | 10:58 |
| lucasagomes | but def it needs some more talks, worth asking to JayF or JoshNang about it, since they have been dealing with this as part of their DECOM | 10:59 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: yeah, okay .. | 11:01 |
| dtantsur | brb again | 11:04 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: we could discuss with rackspace guys when they come in, decide and propose and come with a common approach of doing it. is that fine with you ? | 11:04 |
| ifarkas | rameshg87, yeah, definitely | 11:04 |
| rameshg87 | ifarkas: great :) | 11:05 |
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| rameshg87 | ifarkas: i will login after sometime when they are in .. will you be around ? | 11:07 |
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| ifarkas | rameshg87, yeah, I will be available later as well | 11:11 |
| ifarkas | ouch | 11:12 |
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| Shrews | wow, channel activity. welcome back, all | 13:28 |
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| dtantsur | Shrews, o/ | 13:29 |
| lucasagomes | Shrews, :) morning | 13:37 |
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| sambetts | Morning :-) | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Remove redundant FunctionalTest usage in API tests https://review.openstack.org/133490 | 14:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhongyue Luo proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: Support DHCP service MAC address registration https://review.openstack.org/132511 | 16:19 |
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| zyluo | is there an IRC meeting today? | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | I don't know either, but I doubt it actually | 16:27 |
| zyluo | I guess not, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 16:27 |
| zyluo | We will not have a meeting on Nov 3rd, as it is the week of the summit, or on Nov 10th, as many folks will be travelling or resting immediately after the summit. | 16:27 |
| dtantsur | oh nice | 16:28 |
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| lucasagomes | I don't think so cause we just saw each other in paris | 16:30 |
| * Shrews hopes that someone writes up a blog post or etherpad about decisions made, conclusions drawn, etc. for Ironic | 16:36 | |
| lucasagomes | Shrews, I wrote some of it to send internally on red hat I can give it to u | 16:38 |
| lucasagomes | it's my perspective of the facts ofc | 16:38 |
| lucasagomes | I will put in an etherpad after removing the sensitive data | 16:38 |
| Shrews | lucasagomes: that would be great if you'd share that. thanks | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add sync and async support for passthru methods https://review.openstack.org/129662 | 18:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Vendor endpoints to support different HTTP methods https://review.openstack.org/129942 | 18:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Make vendor methods discoverable via the Ironic API https://review.openstack.org/133533 | 18:01 |
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| lucasagomes | I will call it a day | 18:12 |
| lucasagomes | have a good night everyone! | 18:12 |
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| yjiang5 | jroll: hi, are you still working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102405/2/specs/kilo/long-running-deploy-ramdisks.rst ? A quite interesting topic and I had similar thought before I saw this. | 18:28 |
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| JayF | yjiang5: he's still in Paris; but yes, that's something we're interested in and are running something similar in production for Rackspace OnMetal today | 18:36 |
| JayF | I'm sure he'd appreciate any review you had to put on the spec in gerritt | 18:36 |
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| yjiang5 | JayF: Great to hear that in production. I will review it. BTW, a curios question, do you have the power management in the long-running ramdisk , so that after the deploy ramdisk is booted, the server will be put into like S3 to save power? | 18:38 |
| yjiang5 | I'm not sure if every server has S3 support. | 18:39 |
| JayF | We don't do anything like that right now. | 18:39 |
| yjiang5 | JayF: hmm, thanks. And hope jroll has a good returning trip. | 18:41 |
| JayF | I honestly would imagine in a perfect world | 18:41 |
| JayF | you'd have some external orchestration | 18:41 |
| JayF | making sure you had "enough" ramdisks booted across your cluster in anticipation of load | 18:42 |
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| JayF | just like you would if you were precaching images, etc | 18:42 |
| JayF | but that's a next, or a next-next step, better to get basic support first | 18:42 |
| yjiang5 | JayF: I think back from S3 is fast enough since it does not gothrough the BIOS flow, although I have no data at hand. Of course, it would be a next-step work, and I think it will be a nature extension once we have the long-running ramdisk support :) | 18:44 |
| JayF | I would disagree in my cases, but we should argue about future things in the future ;) | 18:44 |
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| yjiang5 | JayF: sure, so this is just a "BTW, curios" question :) | 18:45 |
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| * Shrews finishes watching the "OpenStack on OpenCompute with Ironic" talk, queues up the next video | 19:30 | |
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| PaulCzar | ironic instructions say to set 'scheduler_host_manager=nova.scheduler.ironic_host_manager.IronicHostManage' in nova.conf ... does this mean I need two run two schedulers if I want to do mixed kvm/ironic ? | 19:39 |
| JayF | I don't know, I've never run Ironic / non-Ironic in the same cell together | 19:43 |
| JayF | sorry :( | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: Whole Disk Image Support for PXE Deploy Driver https://review.openstack.org/97150 | 19:44 |
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| linggao | Hi, when is our weekly meeting now? | 20:04 |
| JayF | It would've been an hour ago | 20:04 |
| JayF | but this week was cancelled due to the OpenStack summit | 20:05 |
| JayF | Remember that the meetings are timed on UTC, so with DST in the US time of the meeting changed (for instance, PST it went from Monday noon to Monday 11am) | 20:05 |
| linggao | JayF, an hour ago was third-party meeting. | 20:05 |
| JayF | then they likely didn't shift their meeting time UTC as they should've :) | 20:06 |
| JayF | We'll find out next week when we go to have our meeting | 20:06 |
| linggao | krtaylor hosted that meeting an hour ago. | 20:06 |
| linggao | thanks JayF | 20:07 |
| JayF | np | 20:07 |
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