Thursday, 2014-10-23

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NobodyCamwell it booted... :)00:13
NobodyCamI will dig in more tomorrow00:13
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NobodyCamnight ya'll00:13
rloonight NobodyCam00:15
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openstackgerritJosh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Add command metrics to IPA API  https://review.openstack.org/11998101:00
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openstackgerritRuby Loo proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Delete unused 'use_ipv6' config option  https://review.openstack.org/13040901:02
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BLZbubbado i really need to recreate the deploy images?14:18
NobodyCamBLZbubba: you mean to deploy a windows image?14:20
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BLZbubbayes14:22
BLZbubbasadly we use 2012r2 a lot14:22
rloolucasagomes: the vendor passthru spec looks good. how will people know what methods are available per vendor, and which http method to use for a particular method?14:25
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rloolucasagomes: i think we have that problem today, but at least when it was POST, sync/async was fixed, you knew.14:26
lucasagomesrloo, 1 sec in a call14:31
rloolucasagomes:  no worries, take your time :-)14:31
NobodyCamwe had a spec for windows support, anyone know what happened to it?14:31
rlooNobodyCam: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/windows-disk-image-support14:37
rlooNobodyCam: is that what you meant?14:38
NobodyCamahh so only a blueprint14:38
NobodyCamya14:38
NobodyCamthats what I was thinking14:38
rlooNobodyCam: there's mention in that one, about a 'windows-pxe-localboot0' blueprint?14:39
NobodyCamya14:40
rlooNobodyCam: found it. guess it is superceded: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/windows-pxe-localboot014:40
lucasagomesrloo, sorry for the delay. Yeah the methods are not exposed today, and I haven't tought about it, definitely having that mappings with metadata (*_routes()) exposed by the drivers can be used to make the API discoverable14:41
lucasagomesbut I didn't think or included that in the spec14:41
NobodyCamahh good find rloo14:41
NobodyCamoh brb14:41
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add put method to API to create or update a node  https://review.openstack.org/13022814:41
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lucasagomesI mean it's doing 3 things already (making consistent, async/sync, more http methods) and I'm afraid it's going to get too big14:41
rloolucasagomes: I'm not totally sure what should be included in A spec, but for me, it makes it more complete (the big picture).14:42
lucasagomesrloo, all I wanted was to have GET support to do the iPXE stuff14:42
rloolucasagomes: ha ha.14:42
lucasagomesrloo, yeah, I can include that if u want, or maybe open a bug about it14:42
lucasagomesvendor api is not discoverable14:42
lucasagomesit's like an isolated problem14:42
rloolucasagomes: well, I don't know that it is isolated. I think when we add new features, we need to think of it end-to-end.14:43
lucasagomesrloo, right, would a GET on the root of the vendor_passthru (when no method is passed) be enough to return a list of available methods?14:44
lucasagomesGET /v1/nodes/<uuid>/vendor_passthru14:44
rlooi was just about to mention that. Or ../vendor_passthru/methods14:44
dtantsurlucasagomes, would be awesome btw14:44
lucasagomeswithout specifing any method, that would return the list of available methods14:44
lucasagomesyeah or that14:44
lucasagomesdtantsur, rloo right I can include that in the spec14:44
* lucasagomes cries14:44
lucasagomeshaha14:44
rloothx lucasagomes14:45
rlooif you want, i can do that patch (since I asked for it)14:45
lucasagomesrloo, if u want to do it, i've no objections14:45
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rloolucasagomes: ok, remind me if I forget ;)14:46
lucasagomesonce the mappings are avaiable it should be simple to get the list of methods and the supported http methods as well the mode (sync, async)14:46
lucasagomesrloo, will do14:46
lucasagomesthanks14:46
rloolucasagomes: yup.14:46
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix get_test_node attributes set incorrectly  https://review.openstack.org/13055714:47
dtantsurlucasagomes, awesome. thus I would be able to check if introspection call is present for a node.14:47
rloolucasagomes: i was just looking at existing API, a GET ../chassis lists the chassis, and similar for nodes, so I think your suggestion GET ../vendorpassthru is good.14:47
dtantsur+114:47
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lucasagomesrloo, dtantsur aight! thanks for the suggestions and review14:48
lucasagomesreviews*14:48
rloowrt specs, I'm assuming we don't care too much about grammatical, unless it isn't understandable.14:49
lucasagomeslol14:49
lucasagomesrloo, is it that bad :(14:49
lucasagomes?14:49
lucasagomesbut yeah, I usually don't mind much grammatical stuff but it worth mentioning in the comments anyway14:50
rloolucasagomes: no, it isn't that bad. I can understand it. But some sentences are a bit long, and you use 'synchronously mode' or something like that instead of 'synchronous mode'. Maybe other stuff too. but like I said, grammatical.14:50
lucasagomesit helps people with english14:50
lucasagomesrloo, ack14:50
rloolucasagomes: If you want me to comment on those, I can.14:50
lucasagomesrloo, if u have time :)14:51
rloolucasagomes: ha ha. my time is spent helping out on ironic ;)14:51
lucasagomeshaha aight :)14:51
rloolucasagomes: give me a few minutes to read your spec again.14:51
lucasagomesrloo, ok, I will put a new version soon with the API changes14:51
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BLZbubbaplease forgive if this is a n00b question, but why is there a pxe boot for the final OS that runs on the nodes?  I just want to write out the normal VM images and have it boot properly15:02
BLZbubbapxe is a nightmare.  tolerable for the install but i hate the idea of using it for normal boots15:03
BLZbubbaand that way, it wouldn't matter what the OS is15:03
lucasagomesBLZbubba, we want to include support for deploying full disk images (which may contain a boot loader and won't need to be PXE booted). But one advatange you get by booting via PXE even the final images is ordering15:03
lucasagomesin case of a power outrage where all machiens are shutdown15:03
lucasagomesyou prevent the guests from starting before the hosts15:04
BLZbubbayou don't need pxe for that, it's ipmi's job isn't it15:04
lucasagomesbut that should be optional anyway, afaict we will add support for full disk images this cycle15:04
lucasagomesBLZbubba, well I believe there's other ways to do that15:05
lucasagomesthis behavior came to Ironic because that was how the PXE driver in Nova BM worked15:05
lucasagomesand we needed to have the same features for graduation as well15:05
lucasagomesso there's a bit of historical things involved here too15:06
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BLZbubbai'll just leave pxe disabled on the real network interface and tell it to install an image that can boot by itself15:09
BLZbubbathat should probably work with minimal hacking15:10
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BLZbubbaok forget I said that.15:10
NobodyCam:-p15:11
BLZbubbafingers working faster than brain this morning15:11
NobodyCamthats every morning for /me :)15:11
BLZbubbaheh15:11
BLZbubbahmm is cloud-archive the wrong way to get juno installed?  it doesn't appear in their list15:13
lucasagomesBLZbubba, I think we have a patch up adding support for deploying full disk images15:14
lucasagomescheck it out on the queue15:14
NobodyCamlucasagomes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7305415:14
lucasagomesrloo, dtantsur new spec submitted, didn't appear here becaus the openstackgerrit has quit15:14
lucasagomes:)15:15
dtantsurack15:15
lucasagomesNobodyCam, thanks... BLZbubba ^ here you go https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7305415:15
NobodyCamthank rloo :)15:15
BLZbubbaok thanks!15:15
BLZbubbaok last question I promise (for at least 5 minutes): how does ironic decide which interface to use for pxe and which one for the fixed ip?15:16
BLZbubbain icehouse baremetal I had to add a ugly hack to force it to choose the higher hex number when allocating for instance15:16
lucasagomesBLZbubba, :( I suspect you'll need that hack still since we don't have anything determining what interface to use. We could do use the metadata on ports to say that15:19
lucasagomesbut today15:19
NobodyCamBLZbubba: basicly the same way see: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/ironic/driver.py#L880-L91115:19
lucasagomeswhat we do is generate a PXE config for all interfaces15:19
* NobodyCam adds to his operator question list15:20
lucasagomesBLZbubba, would be good if you could come up with a patch fixing that behavior :)15:20
lucasagomesNobodyCam, ++15:20
lucasagomesrloo, I will put another patch up fixing the gramatical stuff, cheerios!15:21
rloolucasagomes: thx. You can pick and choose ;)15:21
lucasagomes:)15:21
NobodyCamand of course if anyone else has any questions for operators... please add them to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Ironic_Questions15:23
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BLZbubbaprobably have to add columns in bm_interfaces15:30
NobodyCamthats the nova bm table15:30
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NobodyCambrb15:35
rlooNobodyCam: I edited the questions a bit. Added to general questions at the end. I basically want to hear their feedback15:37
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NobodyCamack thank you rloo :)15:44
rlooyw NobodyCam15:44
NobodyCam:)15:44
NobodyCamno J's yet?15:45
rlooNobodyCam: I think they are hiding from you15:45
NobodyCamlol... :)15:46
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lucasagomesBLZbubba, in ironic all resources have a 'extra' attribute, which supports adding key/pair values15:48
lucasagomesso you won't need to add a new column, just add the metadata there and when generating the config files, etc15:49
lucasagomesyou check whether it's present15:49
lucasagomes:)15:49
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BLZbubbaah excellent15:58
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devanandamorning, all16:08
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NobodyCamgood morning devananda16:09
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jrollmorning everybody :)16:11
jrollrloo: idk what ever you could be talking about :)16:12
rloojroll: I don't know what I am talking about either :D16:12
NobodyCamlol16:12
jroll:P16:12
jroll15:45:56            rloo | NobodyCam: I think they are hiding from you16:12
NobodyCamheheheh16:12
rloo;)16:12
NobodyCamhey jroll is there a how to enable IPA that we can like to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/deploy/drivers.html16:14
NobodyCam/like/link/16:14
lucasagomesdevananda, morning16:14
lucasagomesjroll, morning16:14
NobodyCamoh and good morning jroll :-p16:18
NobodyCambrb16:22
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jrollNobodyCam: Add agent_$powerdriver to the list of enabled_drivers in /etc/ironic/ironic.conf16:33
jrollit's just that easy! (tm)16:34
jrollyou'll need to have an agent deploy ramdisk etc16:34
jrolldunno16:34
NobodyCamI'm attempting to test yuriyz DIB IPA element16:35
NobodyCamI hacked it also support ubuntu16:35
jrollnice16:35
NobodyCamand wanted to actually test it in a deploy16:35
jrollI would love to test that as well16:35
jrollif you're using devstack there's instructions on our dev guide16:36
NobodyCamjroll: is there docs I'm missing? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic-python-agent16:37
* NobodyCam actually checks the repo :-p16:37
jrollfor devstack?16:37
jrollwe don't have much in the way of docs :(16:37
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jrollwhat are you looking for specifically?16:37
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NobodyCami dont really know what I'm looking for.. I guess just a starting place :-p16:39
jrollare you using devstack?16:39
NobodyCamnope..16:40
jrollthere's a small agent section here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/dev/dev-quickstart.html#deploying-ironic-with-devstack16:40
jrollok16:40
jrollso like16:40
jrollyou need swift16:40
jrollwith tempurls enabled16:40
NobodyCamlol because this looks wrong (http://paste.openstack.org/show/o3ribd2fkkwGP1RBm8Zt) lol16:40
jrolland you need to enable the agent driver16:40
jroll| afc2d852-2ea9-451f-929a-29ee798f7295 | ipa-deploy-kernel  | aki         | aki              | 5828976   | active |16:40
jroll| 5941fd01-6bd3-42df-afb1-6ffc49559f67 | ipa-deploy-ramdisk | ari         | ari              | 341968548 | active |16:40
jrollthose look fine afaik16:40
jrollset those as your deploy kernel/ramdisk16:41
NobodyCamya gota see how I got two ipa kernels16:41
jrollyeah that's weird16:41
jrolllooks like you just uploaded it twice :P16:41
NobodyCamI'm sure its on my end16:41
NobodyCamahh so the tripleo seed will need swift :-p16:44
NobodyCam(seed)nobodycam@nobodycam-HP-EliteBook-8460p:~$ swift list16:44
NobodyCamEndpoint for object-store not found16:44
NobodyCamdoh16:44
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jroll:(16:45
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NobodyCam:-p16:45
lucasagomesI will call it a day16:48
lucasagomescame to the office, so gotta get the train back home16:49
lucasagomeshave a good night everyone!16:49
rloobye lucasagomes16:50
jrollnight lucas :)16:50
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lucasagomesbye bye16:50
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NobodyCamnight lucas16:52
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NobodyCamjroll: there is no need for a ipa qcow image is there? Am I corrent in thinking I'm  good with just kernel and ramdisk17:06
NobodyCamcorrect evem17:07
NobodyCamgah17:07
jrollcorrect17:07
jrolllol17:07
jrolloh and17:07
jrollyou need a full disk image17:07
jrollnot split17:07
NobodyCamyep17:08
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jrollcan I get some thoughts on how to deprecate this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129694/4/ironic/conductor/manager.py17:27
jrollthe user might not have access to the logs, is the hard part.17:27
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NobodyCamkinda sounds like we need a way to tell the client to print the deprecated warnning17:32
jrollyeah17:35
jrollbut they might not be using the client :)17:35
JayFI honestly think logging it + making it print warnings in ironicclient is sufficient17:36
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marckNobodyCam: lucasgomes helped me get past a few more hurdles. The ironic node is pxe booting, but then fails and turns off. This may be a question for the cinder group, but the message I get in ironic-conductor.log is ironic.drivers.modules.deploy_utils [-] StdOut: 'Error: The location 256001 is outside of the device /dev/sde.\n'19:15
marckNobodyCam: full log http://paste.openstack.org/show/123685/19:15
NobodyCammarck: awesome news19:17
NobodyCamlet me take a look at the log19:18
NobodyCammarck: how large is the nodes disk19:19
marck250 GB19:20
NobodyCamset it a tad bit samller ie 200 or 220 gb19:21
NobodyCamon the node and flavor19:21
NobodyCam(so they match)19:21
marckNobodyCam: yes, matching is good :)19:21
NobodyCamkinda just looks like the size was a bit large19:22
NobodyCambut thats really good as it had to boot the deploy ramdisk to get that far19:22
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dlaubehey guys, with nova-compute configured to use the ironic driver from the juno release, I'm not supposed to be using any of the nova baremetal-* commands am I?19:26
NobodyCamdlaube: correct, though some of the commands are proxyed to ironic19:27
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devanandadlaube: correct. you should use the ironic CLI directly19:33
devanandadlaube: install python-ironicclient, then run "ironic"19:33
dlaubeok, that's what I though but just wanted to confirm19:34
marckNobodyCam: success! it rebooted, then booted into the deploy image...it's running cloud-init now19:34
dlaubedevananda: / NobodyCam: am I still correct in assuming that I should be using something like "nova boot --flavor my-baremetal-flavor --image my-image e9eff0a1-5971-4ddf-b0cb-e7d98f255fb6" in order to provision a node with Ironic?19:38
dlaubewas hoping to find something over at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/deploy/install-guide.html19:38
dlaubebut I know docs are still in flight19:39
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devanandadlaube: yes19:39
devanandadlaube: what do you feel is missing from that page?19:40
dlaubeprobably the part from the old baremetal wiki about using nova boot :)19:41
devanandaa usage guide then, rather than an install guide?19:41
dlaubeyeah, I suppose so19:42
NobodyCamdlaube: awesome :)19:43
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NobodyCambrb20:02
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NobodyCammarck: awesome news20:12
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mrdaMorning Ironic20:32
NobodyCammorning mrda20:32
mrda\o20:39
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ekarlsois there horizon bits yet for ironic ?20:55
NobodyCamthere was some wire frames I saw awhile ago20:57
jrollthere's some wip patches20:58
jrollyou're welcome to take them over :D20:58
jrollmda \o20:59
jrollmrda too \o20:59
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ekarlsojroll: where?21:03
JoshNangekarlso: here's the api support https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117376/21:03
JoshNangaweeks has one that adds the panels21:03
jroll^21:05
jrollthat patch and the dependent patch21:05
jrollthey're pretty old21:05
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ekarlsois there discover support or so yet in ironic ?21:12
ekarlsoaka boot up nodes and they show in api ? :)21:13
jrollnope, it's a big topic for kilo though21:19
jrollekarlso: ^21:19
JayFekarlso: Discovery of hardware *unknown entirely to ironic* has been declared pretty much out of scope21:19
jrolloh, right.21:20
jrollwords are hard.21:20
JayFekarlso: but we're talking about for K having the ability to give Ironic just enough info to talk to the node, then Ironic introspecting it and adding the hardware information21:20
JayFekarlso: it's a hot topic for the summit21:20
NobodyCamit all about "introspection"21:20
rloohi devananda. If you have a chance, would you please approve this BP? The spec was approved: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/maintenance-reason21:20
NobodyCamTy rloo I forgot about it :-p21:23
rlooNobodyCam: I'm leaving it to you to bug him about it ;)21:23
NobodyCamlol21:23
NobodyCam;)21:23
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openstackgerritJon Grimm proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Improve docstrings for some ironic config opts  https://review.openstack.org/13064221:50
JayFjgrimm: ^ put a comment on that, but I'm not 100% sure I'm right21:53
jgrimmJayF, I'll go investigate nonetheless. thanks21:54
NobodyCami think your right JayF21:55
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jgrimmJayF, NobodyCam, ok, i did see that glance is doing so, but nova is not (yet)21:57
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jgrimmJayF, i'll do a sweep of all the helps at the same time21:58
JayFjgrimm: I have no particular interest in the translation other than I know it's supposed to happen for user-facing strings. That sounds good to me though.21:59
jgrimm:)21:59
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NobodyCambrb23:06
devanandaschedule proposed to http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/ironic23:28
* NobodyCam clicks23:29
devanandaI can continue to change that as needed until probably the middle of next week23:29
devanandaalso http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/30b3f0f152f03c0fecdbabb935de672a23:30
mrdayay23:30
devanandahaha! Wed 11am: http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/9dbde26cced67b54d24176b746d3027e and http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/fefafa2ef6bb0106592d0fab72edc1ad23:31
devanandaalmost the same topic23:32
* devananda earmarks for sorting that out later23:32
NobodyCamahh ha Duffy is the location. /me was tring to find a duffy person :-p23:33
NobodyCamoh devananda https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/maintenance-reason23:33
NobodyCamcan you approve ^^^^ spec landed23:34
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NobodyCamhumm23:36
NobodyCamrloo: can you check that spec23:37
NobodyCams/spec/blueprint/23:37
rlooNobodyCam: the BP has been approved. Is that what you wanted me to check?23:41
devanandadone23:41
rloothx devananda23:41
rloosorry, devananda. I just remembered there is this other one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/ilo-management-interface23:42
rloodevananda: here's the spec corresponding to that BP: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/kilo/ilo-management-interface.html23:43
NobodyCamrloo: I just added that url to the blueprint23:44
rloothx NobodyCam! (I haven't even had a chance to read that spec yet, but I will one day soon...)23:44
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NobodyCamhummm something went awry ... add swift and keystone stops working.23:57
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: Add a link to the template on the index page  https://review.openstack.org/13065823:59

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