| jroll | devananda, NobodyCam, I'm debating if we should keep IPA docs in the IPA repo, Ironic repo, or some of both... I think I'd almost prefer Ironic repo as using IPA outside of Ironic would be weird (but maybe dev docs should be in IPA repo) | 00:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Fix minor documentation issues https://review.openstack.org/119859 | 00:11 |
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| JayF | jroll: ^ watching the post job now | 00:16 |
| jroll | cool | 00:17 |
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| JayF | http://tarballs.openstack.org/ironic-python-agent/coreos/files/ \o/ | 00:22 |
| JayF | jroll: ^ | 00:22 |
| JayF | now to check to see if the urls I put in the readme are right, haha | 00:22 |
| jroll | \o/ thanks | 00:22 |
| JayF | hah, they're wrong | 00:23 |
| JayF | hold please | 00:23 |
| jroll | (now how do I ignore the preserve-ephemeral test) :( | 00:23 |
| jroll | wat | 00:23 |
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| JayF | no I mean, the urls I created work | 00:23 |
| JayF | but the ones in the readme are wrong | 00:23 |
| jroll | neat, my stuff is good | 00:24 |
| jroll | yeah | 00:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Faulkner proposed a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Add missing "/files" to IPA image URLs https://review.openstack.org/119963 | 00:24 |
| JayF | jroll: ^ | 00:25 |
| jroll | yeah, landed | 00:26 |
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| jroll | have a good night, ironic | 00:30 |
| mrda | thanks jroll, tty tomorrow | 00:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Add missing "/files" to IPA image URLs https://review.openstack.org/119963 | 00:48 |
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| anderbubble | does openstack-ironic compete with a system like xcat; or would they be considered orthogonal? | 01:03 |
| anderbubble | More to the point: if I want to provision nodes in a cluster, have used xcat (and raw pxe+kickstart) before, but want something better, should I look at extending / improving / replacing xcat, or should I be trying to use openstack-ironic? | 01:04 |
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| mrda | Hey Ironic. When North America wakes up in a few hours, I'd be great if you could encourage 119944 to get approved and merged over in Nova. This is the showstopper for the driver. It's been reviewed, and the revisions have passed Jenkins. Thanks in advance :) | 06:56 |
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| dtantsur | Morning Ironic :) | 07:19 |
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| mrda | hi dtantsur | 07:50 |
| dtantsur | mrda, g'evening | 07:50 |
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| dtantsur | folks, devananda, I we need some clarification on what people treat as "affects ..." in launchpad. I clearly read it as "should be also fixed in ...", not like "has some effect, that users may attribute to ...". | 08:03 |
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| dtantsur | that means that I'm inclined to status=Invalid for ironic parts of bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1248022 | 08:03 |
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| dtantsur | compare: I don't think Nova folks report libvirt driver bugs to libvirt upstream :) | 08:03 |
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| dtantsur | otherwise we end up with lots of open bugs which we (as Ironic project, not as individuals who also contribute to Nova) can't deal with at all, except for waiting | 08:04 |
| dtantsur | your opinions? | 08:04 |
| soren | dtantsur: I typically see the "also affected projects" used in two ways. | 08:24 |
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| soren | dtantsur: 1. One problem that spans many projects (e.g. we want to apply the same change to translations, tox config, etc, across all openstack projects). | 08:24 |
| soren | dtantsur: That's a no-brainer. | 08:24 |
| soren | dtantsur: The other use is more user-centric. Consider a bug that *appears* to be in Nova, but is really in Ironic. | 08:25 |
| soren | dtantsur: A user experiencing this problem would be looking for a bug in Nova. | 08:25 |
| soren | dtantsur: Marking it as affecting both Nova and Ironic lets developers track it where it needs fixing and users can track it where they see it. | 08:26 |
| dtantsur | soren, right. but then we; | 08:27 |
| dtantsur | sorry | 08:27 |
| soren | dtantsur: But the other way around... Yeah, I can't see much use to that. | 08:27 |
| dtantsur | we'll really need to report libvirt driver bugs to libvirt) | 08:27 |
| dtantsur | also, users can track bug even if it was closed on it's Ironic part | 08:27 |
| dtantsur | it's still their bug | 08:27 |
| mrda | OK, enough for tonight. See you in the morning... | 08:31 |
| dtantsur | mrda, g'night | 08:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Szymon Wróblewski proposed a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Enhance decorators in agent and automate creation of command_map https://review.openstack.org/117529 | 10:36 |
| gilliard_ | dtantsur|lunch: I was just looking at that particular bug. It seems to me that some code change might be needed in Ironic to fix this, so "affects: Ironic" looks valid. | 10:41 |
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| dtantsur | gilliard, what ironic code do you expect to change? | 10:52 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, I think ur patch in the client is failing to merge on master | 10:59 |
| dtantsur | Oo | 10:59 |
| dtantsur | it was just rebased | 10:59 |
| lucasagomes | right, lemme check if I did something wrong here then | 11:00 |
| dtantsur | please check yeah | 11:00 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, oh forget... it has a dependency | 11:02 |
| lucasagomes | I tried to cherry pick it | 11:02 |
| lucasagomes | for tests | 11:02 |
| dtantsur | ok | 11:05 |
| gilliard | dtantsur: the fix might be that ironic-api has to notify nova compute-manager that it needs to update its available resources. | 11:07 |
| dtantsur | gilliard, oh well... maybe. I'll leave this bug as it is. | 11:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Translator functions cleanup part 2 https://review.openstack.org/118587 | 11:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Szymon Wróblewski proposed a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Enhance decorators in agent and automate creation of command_map https://review.openstack.org/117529 | 11:36 |
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| dtantsur | lucasagomes, see my comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119732/ | 11:40 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, ack | 11:40 |
| dtantsur | I hate tox >_< is it designed to rebuild the environment on every occasion? | 11:41 |
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| dtantsur | lucas-hungry, what do you think, may I use 'last_error' field in Node for storing discovery error? will it break anything? | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed a change to openstack/ironic: EXPERIMENTAL Implement hardware discovery in PXE driver https://review.openstack.org/110031 | 12:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Translator functions cleanup part 3 https://review.openstack.org/118588 | 12:15 |
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| lucasagomes | dtantsur, hmm... it's an async operation right? I think that's fine | 12:46 |
| dtantsur | ok, thanks | 12:46 |
| lucasagomes | async I mean, after the node post the info back to the api etc | 12:46 |
| lucasagomes | so I think it's grand | 12:46 |
| Shrews | morning ironic | 12:49 |
| dtantsur | Shrews, morning | 12:50 |
| Shrews | dtantsur: morning! | 12:51 |
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| jroll | morning Shrews dtantsur lucasagomes and the rest of ironic :) | 13:01 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, morning | 13:01 |
| lucasagomes | morning Shrews | 13:01 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: 13:00:49 ndipanov | fwiw I will +2 the sys_meta patch if you come up with it | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic: Remove XML from api doc samples https://review.openstack.org/119868 | 13:01 |
| * jroll cries | 13:01 | |
| jroll | so hacky | 13:01 |
| jroll | so horrible | 13:01 |
| * jroll rewrites nova | 13:02 | |
| ndipanov | it's really sad | 13:02 |
| jroll | heh, hi :) | 13:02 |
| jroll | ndipanov: yeah, I saw comstud talking about sys_meta stuff the other day... this is new to me, but I don't like it | 13:03 |
| ndipanov | jroll, it's horrible - I think tho that at this point people are pissed off with it enough to actually fix it | 13:04 |
| jroll | woo :) | 13:04 |
| ndipanov | because it keeps blocking useful work | 13:04 |
| jroll | just... not this cycle :P | 13:04 |
| ndipanov | well you need to have the paperwork right - we can't help you without that | 13:04 |
| ndipanov | but as soon as you get that - we'll -1 the shit out of it for spelling errors | 13:05 |
| jroll | :) | 13:05 |
| jroll | should rubber stamp all the "clean up this horrible thing" specs for kilo | 13:06 |
| ndipanov | than if you win the jenkins lottery - you need impeccable grammar for that of course - it might land a cycle or 5 from now | 13:06 |
| ndipanov | but yeah - velocity | 13:06 |
| jroll | and then, once you spend a few cycles on patch iterations | 13:07 |
| ndipanov | software defined economy even | 13:07 |
| jroll | just *try* to get it through the gate, I dare you | 13:07 |
| ndipanov | </rant> | 13:07 |
| ndipanov | yeah that's what I meant by jenkins lottery | 13:07 |
| jroll | aha | 13:07 |
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| jroll | tis sad | 13:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix agent PXE template https://review.openstack.org/119869 | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Use expected, actual order for PXE template test https://review.openstack.org/119870 | 13:15 |
| jroll | ^ rebased on top of fixed conf sample, those should be good to go now | 13:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Use oslo.utils instead of ironic.openstack.common https://review.openstack.org/119732 | 13:22 |
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| jroll | lucasagomes: mind looking at this? I think it's fine, just takes a minute to grok | 13:25 |
| jroll | (seems to work, though) | 13:25 |
| jroll | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117529/6/ironic_python_agent/tests/extensions/base.py | 13:25 |
| * jroll brb | 13:25 | |
| lucasagomes | jroll, yup, will do. 1 sec just finishing adding one test here locally | 13:26 |
| jroll | yeah no rush | 13:26 |
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| Shrews | So what's the deal with check-tripleo-ironic-undercloud-precise-nonha lately? | 13:41 |
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| jroll | Shrews: it's failing like crazy, yeah? | 13:44 |
| Shrews | jroll: like cray-cray | 13:44 |
| jroll | got an example? | 13:46 |
| jroll | I thought I had seen that, too, but now I can't find one | 13:46 |
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| Shrews | http://logs.openstack.org/09/119809/2/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-ironic-undercloud-precise-nonha/237e64e | 13:46 |
| jroll | idk, I just always assume it's broken | 13:47 |
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| slagle | hey folks, i'm curious as to why scheduler_use_baremetal_filters is defaulted to False in ironic_host_manager.py? what's the reasoning behind that? | 13:48 |
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| slagle | i thought the desire was to be using the Exact*Filter(s) by default for baremetal drivers | 13:49 |
| slagle | lucasagomes: ^^ any thoughts? | 13:49 |
| slagle | i'm curious if this is something we should be setting to true for tripleo deployments | 13:49 |
| jroll | slagle: wouldn't defaulting that to true use those filters even if that compute host wasn't using the ironic driver? | 13:51 |
| jroll | (I'm not sure, just wildly throwing around ideas) | 13:52 |
| * lucasagomes reads | 13:52 | |
| slagle | jroll: yes, i assume it would. but why would you be using IronicHostManager if the compute host was not using ironic | 13:52 |
| slagle | so maybe the reason is the case where you have multiple compute hosts with different drivers? | 13:52 |
| slagle | some ironic, and some not | 13:52 |
| jroll | right, it's only if it's activated, hm | 13:53 |
| lucasagomes | hmm not sure | 13:54 |
| lucasagomes | maybe it was because the filters were only in the ironic tree | 13:54 |
| lucasagomes | and if that was set to True, we would need an extra step to actually copy | 13:54 |
| lucasagomes | those filters to the right direct in nova before using it | 13:54 |
| jroll | oh, could be | 13:55 |
| lucasagomes | slagle, but now, with the driver merged, I think that we should set it to true by default | 13:55 |
| lucasagomes | s/direct/directory | 13:55 |
| slagle | lucasagomes: good point, possibly | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Remove unused modules from openstack-common.conf https://review.openstack.org/120098 | 14:00 |
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| rloo | morning, afternoon, evening, night ironickers | 14:08 |
| rloo | jroll: qq. Are you OK with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118326/? You mentioned trying it out. | 14:09 |
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| lucasagomes | rloo, morning | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: List resources with detail https://review.openstack.org/119825 | 14:13 |
| rloo | hiya lucasagomes | 14:13 |
| dtantsur | rloo, jroll, morning | 14:14 |
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| rloo | hello dtantsur | 14:14 |
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| NobodyCa1 | good morning Ironic | 14:16 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCa1, morning | 14:17 |
| NobodyCa1 | morning dtantsur rloo lucasagomes Shrews jroll | 14:17 |
| NobodyCa1 | :) | 14:17 |
| Shrews | NobodyCa1: morning | 14:17 |
| Shrews | and rloo | 14:17 |
| jroll | rloo: I'll try it right now :/ | 14:17 |
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| rloo | thx jroll | 14:17 |
| jroll | rloo: tempest + agent doesn't work any more, so there's some effort required :( | 14:17 |
| rloo | morning NobodyCam & Shrews | 14:17 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 14:18 |
| jroll | morning NobodyCam! | 14:18 |
| rloo | jroll: I think it should work and I'm fine if you don't try it out. | 14:18 |
| lucasagomes | morning NobodyCam | 14:20 |
| jroll | rloo, yeah, just want to be safe | 14:21 |
| jroll | it should work | 14:21 |
| jroll | but we STILL don't have CI on this | 14:21 |
| jroll | if I do nothing else today it will be fixing that | 14:21 |
| jroll | so close | 14:21 |
| * jroll grumbles at tempest | 14:21 | |
| rloo | thx for persisting jroll! | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Ironic: don't canonicalize extra_specs data https://review.openstack.org/120107 | 14:26 |
| NobodyCam | is the White board correct?Gate Status: golden | 14:28 |
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| jroll | yes | 14:28 |
| jroll | (afaik) | 14:29 |
| NobodyCam | nice | 14:29 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 14:29 |
| jroll | driver is still broken in nova, but we haven't flipped over to it yet | 14:29 |
| NobodyCam | ahh | 14:30 |
| rloo | jroll: do you know what the status is, with the broken driver in nova. Is there anything we can do to help? | 14:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic: Minor fixes for ipminative console support https://review.openstack.org/119475 | 14:34 |
| jroll | rloo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119944/4 | 14:34 |
| jroll | rloo: they're discussing it in the nova channel right now, I think it's going to land shortly | 14:35 |
| rloo | jroll: good. | 14:36 |
| rloo | jroll: umm, do we have the same thing (or a similar patch) as 119944, in our tree? | 14:38 |
| jroll | rloo: I had a patch that switched it to get_flavor(), I abandoned thay | 14:39 |
| jroll | that | 14:39 |
| jroll | so this code is already in our tree | 14:39 |
| jroll | this is the change in nova that didn't get merged back to our tree | 14:39 |
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| rloo | jroll: yeah, I know. Is this code exactly what is in our tree? I see comments and revisions. I thought the first revision was in our tree. I'll look. | 14:40 |
| jroll | I have no idea | 14:40 |
| * rloo doesn't want to go through the same exercise again if the proposed code doesn't work | 14:41 | |
| rloo | jroll: it is different :-( | 14:42 |
| jroll | but how much different? | 14:43 |
| jroll | have a diff? | 14:43 |
| rloo | no, i don't have a diff. just eyeballing. | 14:43 |
| rloo | until we have ironic tests in nova, should we continue to mimic all changes in our tree? | 14:43 |
| * jroll lands https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118326/ | 14:43 | |
| rloo | thx jroll ^^ | 14:43 |
| jroll | rloo: as soon as this is fixed, we will switch devstack to use the driver in nova | 14:44 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: you still want 119869 | 14:44 |
| jroll | rloo: we have tests in nova, just not voting | 14:44 |
| rloo | jroll: if we have tests in nova, how did we miss the original failure? | 14:44 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: yes please | 14:45 |
| jroll | rloo: because they are using the driver from ironic tree | 14:45 |
| rloo | jroll: right. so this new patch isn't being tested anywhere except our unit tests. | 14:46 |
| jroll | rloo: this is the only change we'll be landing to the virt driver until the tests use the driver in the nova tree | 14:46 |
| jroll | ah, right | 14:46 |
| jroll | rloo: how much different is our tree | 14:46 |
| rloo | jroll: there are some changes wrt passing the context I think. | 14:46 |
| rloo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119944/4/nova/virt/ironic/driver.py | 14:46 |
| jroll | ah yeah | 14:46 |
| rloo | it *should* be fine, but I think we should follow process? | 14:47 |
| jroll | rloo: do you want to backport it or shall I? | 14:47 |
| rloo | you? | 14:47 |
| jroll | mmmmmkay | 14:47 |
| jroll | give me a moment | 14:47 |
| rloo | thx jroll! | 14:47 |
| rloo | (i could do it if you want, just being lazy) | 14:47 |
| jroll | nah, I've got it | 14:48 |
| rloo | really, we just need a patch up to make sure jenkins is happy. | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/119809 | 14:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Backport Nova review 119944 https://review.openstack.org/120113 | 14:50 |
| jroll | right | 14:50 |
| jroll | ^^ there it is | 14:50 |
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| jroll | rloo: let me know if I missed anything | 14:53 |
| NobodyCam | doesn't necessarily need to land <- not the most convincing commit message | 14:53 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 14:53 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: it's just going to get deleted :P | 14:53 |
| NobodyCam | i know | 14:53 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 14:53 |
| rloo | thx jroll. Looks good. | 14:56 |
| jroll | great :) | 14:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic: Use oslo.utils instead of ironic.openstack.common https://review.openstack.org/119732 | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix compute_driver and scheduler_host_manager in install-guide https://review.openstack.org/119937 | 14:58 |
| NobodyCam | brb. have to run to drop off the car | 14:58 |
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| NobodyCam | and back | 15:16 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, added a comment to ^ | 15:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add 'bash-completion' to 'ironic help' response https://review.openstack.org/120122 | 15:18 |
| * NobodyCam looks | 15:18 | |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, I'm not sure what we are doing with the ClusteredCompute thing | 15:19 |
| jroll | nova doesn't like it | 15:20 |
| jroll | so we're keeping it in our tree until we have a better solution | 15:20 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, right | 15:23 |
| NobodyCam | ack | 15:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix compute_driver and scheduler_host_manager in install-guide https://review.openstack.org/119937 | 15:26 |
| lucasagomes | it's not decided which day will be the design sessions for Ironic right? | 15:27 |
| jroll | I don't think so? | 15:27 |
| NobodyCam | as far as I know ... wed, thrus, fri are the days just not sur which we'll be sloted for | 15:27 |
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| lucasagomes | I think tue as well | 15:28 |
| lucasagomes | afaik | 15:28 |
| lucasagomes | yeah just wanted to know because I'm planning to get some days off after the summit | 15:28 |
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| NobodyCam | nice | 15:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic: Remove unnecessary mapping from Agent drivers https://review.openstack.org/118326 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed a change to openstack/ironic: EXPERIMENTAL Implement hardware discovery in PXE driver https://review.openstack.org/110031 | 15:45 |
| devananda | morning, all | 15:45 |
| Shrews | morning devananda | 15:45 |
| NobodyCam | mornign devananda | 15:46 |
| jroll | morning devananda | 15:46 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, morning | 15:46 |
| lucasagomes | do we have a tag for ironic in nova bugs already? | 15:46 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: not yet, following up on that again today | 15:49 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, thanks! right I will just put "ironic" in the subject | 15:50 |
| lucasagomes | summary** | 15:50 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic: Fix agent PXE template https://review.openstack.org/119869 | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic: Use expected, actual order for PXE template test https://review.openstack.org/119870 | 15:53 |
| NobodyCam | are we still keeping our tree's driver in sync with nova's? question comes from: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120107 | 15:56 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: no, I don't think so. Once we fix that flavors bug in nova, and switch the tests to use the driver in nova, we'll be deleting our tree's driver. | 15:57 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: so all changes should only go to nova | 15:58 |
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| jroll | NobodyCam: we should make sure tripleo flips to using the driver in nova before we delete it | 15:59 |
| jroll | (and that patch should get proposed in nova0 | 15:59 |
| jroll | s/0/)/ | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Zveryanskyy proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Log ERROR power state in node_power_action() https://review.openstack.org/117499 | 16:01 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: -2'd that | 16:02 |
| devananda | the canonical location for the nova/virt/ironic driver is now in the nova tree | 16:02 |
| devananda | we're two patches away from making the switch | 16:02 |
| devananda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119944/ has been approved | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/118548 | 16:04 |
| devananda | once that lands, we need to recheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119844/ | 16:04 |
| devananda | once that passes the virtual-ironic-nv job, we should get it landed and then land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119892/ to delete the driver from our tree | 16:06 |
| lucasagomes | nice! yeah there's also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120099/ | 16:06 |
| lucasagomes | that unblocks tripleO I think ^ | 16:06 |
| lucasagomes | (more arch-related stuff) | 16:07 |
| Shrews | yuriyz: odd that 117499 wasn't merged after lucasagomes re-approved...i wonder what happened there | 16:11 |
| lucasagomes | Shrews, dependency | 16:12 |
| lucasagomes | it has a dependency on a patch not merged yet | 16:12 |
| Shrews | ah! duh | 16:12 |
| Shrews | thx | 16:12 |
| devananda | so to clarify, we should also not delete the driver from our tree until TripleO's testing has moved away from it | 16:12 |
| * devananda adds all this to the whiteboard | 16:12 | |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic: Translator functions cleanup part 2 https://review.openstack.org/118587 | 16:13 |
| rloo | maybe we should -2 or WIP the patch that deletes the driver... | 16:13 |
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| Shrews | eh, let's just approve it and see what happens | 16:15 |
| devananda | rloo: done | 16:15 |
| rloo | Shrews is a risk taker or a ... | 16:15 |
| rloo | thx devananda | 16:15 |
| devananda | it in fact couldn't land yet -- it's failing our own gate tests | 16:16 |
| Shrews | rloo: toublemaker? :) yeah | 16:16 |
| devananda | (those will pass once the devstack change lands) | 16:16 |
| rloo | devananda: right, but once it passes, someone may accidentally approve it before tripleO folks have switched. | 16:16 |
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| rloo | like Shrews | 16:17 |
| Shrews | bwah ha ha ha | 16:17 |
| lucasagomes | :P | 16:18 |
| lucasagomes | No package 'libvirt' found -- why nova ? :( | 16:19 |
| * lucasagomes manually installs it | 16:19 | |
| NobodyCam | no libvirt? thats odd | 16:23 |
| jroll | it's in test-requirements, I think | 16:24 |
| jroll | I -1'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120099/ | 16:25 |
| jroll | in hopes they don't land it before that devstack change | 16:25 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, libvirt-devel (tho the message says libvirt only) | 16:25 |
| NobodyCam | ahh | 16:26 |
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| rloo | oh, c'mon, jroll, that code works! good idea though ;) | 16:27 |
| jroll | :) | 16:27 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120107/ | 16:28 |
| devananda | so folks, dprince doesn't really want us to break tripleo, and has proposed a slightly different plan | 16:32 |
| devananda | instead of deleting ironic/nova/* -- we replace it with a shim that subclasses the things from the nova tree | 16:32 |
| JayF | That prints loud screaming deprecation warnings and gets removed in K? | 16:32 |
| devananda | yes | 16:32 |
| devananda | we still get a single copy of the driver (in Nova) | 16:32 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: would that just for the k cycle? | 16:32 |
| devananda | but it means folks don't need to immediately change their configs after this patch lands | 16:33 |
| rloo | just for J cycle I think? | 16:33 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: still want CI to run with the actual patch | 16:33 |
| jroll | devananda: sounds reasonable | 16:34 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah sounds good to me too | 16:34 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, heh ok | 16:34 |
| jroll | can't hurt :P | 16:34 |
| jroll | and if tripleo isn't using that driver, no rush :P | 16:35 |
| rloo | with that change, folks won't need to immediately change their configs, but... if we have this in final juno, will we have more folks using/configuring to use the ironic version rather than the nova version? | 16:35 |
| jroll | idk, our docs will say "use the nova versino" | 16:36 |
| rloo | jroll: who reads the docs? | 16:36 |
| jroll | so it's only existing users | 16:36 |
| jroll | dunno, I usually just come in here "how the heck do I deploy ironic" | 16:36 |
| jroll | or like... read the source. | 16:36 |
| rloo | I'd prefer that it was gone when juno release is stamped. | 16:37 |
| jroll | s/when juno release is stamped/now/ | 16:37 |
| JayF | rloo: I don't disagree, but I also think if we have a loud warning it's not worth the fight with nova if they want it to stay through k | 16:37 |
| rloo | don't want folks to think that the deprecation will then be when kilo is released or after that. | 16:37 |
| rloo | nova didn't ask for it, tripleo did | 16:38 |
| jroll | JayF: s/nova/tripleo | 16:38 |
| rloo | so does tripleo want it in K? | 16:38 |
| rloo | OpenStack has this 'thing' about users. Ironic WILL graduate in juno ;) Just worried that having the driver in ironic may mean we have to support or something-I-haven't-thought-of in kilo+. | 16:40 |
| jroll | we aren't keeping the driver in ironic | 16:40 |
| jroll | just making it accessible via ironic.nova.virt.ironic.driver or whatever | 16:41 |
| rloo | jroll: I know, but we're making the driver available FROM ironic | 16:41 |
| jroll | it's just going to subclass everything in nova | 16:41 |
| jroll | right, ok | 16:41 |
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| rloo | eg, if the nova-ironic-driver gets new code/new classes, will we have to update our tree to link to the new classes? | 16:42 |
| jroll | I guess? | 16:42 |
| jroll | dunno | 16:42 |
| rloo | so... who's going to notice/add the links or whatever, or do we wait for someone to complain | 16:42 |
| rloo | not that it isn't do-able. I just wonder whether it is necessary to add extra 'work' for us etc. | 16:43 |
| jroll | yeah, I see your point | 16:43 |
| JayF | especially after the number of hoops many people working on Ironic have jumped through w/r/t that driver for the last months :) | 16:44 |
| rloo | I mean, if tripleO or others really need this in K, that's another story. But if no one needs it in K, why have it. | 16:44 |
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| JayF | I honestly think it's a config management problem | 16:45 |
| jroll | deprecation. yay. | 16:45 |
| jroll | it would be cool to not need to change my configs next time I deploy :) | 16:45 |
| JayF | if you're able to continuously deploy Openstack to the level that a breakage *inside juno* would cause you problems | 16:45 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: dtantsur|afk: jogo's asked me to create a new "ironic" bug tag in Nova, so that's what we'll use | 16:45 |
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| JayF | you should also have orcestration/config management good enough to update the configurations | 16:45 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, awesome, ok I will tag the bug I opened once it's created | 16:45 |
| * jroll bbl | 16:45 | |
| JayF | Just sometimes too easy for pushback hard problems upstream when they could be more expediantly handled by the operator | 16:46 |
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| devananda | rloo: aiui, the point is to give users (ie, tripleo) a deprecation period | 16:53 |
| devananda | rloo: rather than pull the rug out and break their config now | 16:53 |
| rloo | devananda: do you know how much time they want? | 16:53 |
| slagle | devananda: hi, i was wondering if there was a reason why scheduler_use_baremetal_filters is defaulted to False in ironic_host_manager.py? | 16:54 |
| devananda | rloo: nope. I'd guess "until the end of Juno" | 16:54 |
| rloo | devananda: I'm fine if it is until (but not in) the Juno release. It worries me if we release with this temporary thing. | 16:55 |
| devananda | rloo: I suspect it will be "deprecated in the juno release" which means we can remove it once K opens | 16:56 |
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| NobodyCam | brb | 16:57 |
| rloo | devananda: hmm, if that works for people. No one should, but what if someone uses J release configured with our tree 'driver', then upgrades to K release and it breaks. (We'll need to remember to document K release about the deprecation.) | 16:59 |
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| lucasagomes | alright folks I'll call it aday | 17:06 |
| lucasagomes | a day* | 17:06 |
| lucasagomes | have a good night everyone! | 17:07 |
| NobodyCam | have a good night lucasagomes | 17:07 |
| JayF | good night | 17:07 |
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| devananda | lucas-dinner, dtantsur|afk: "ironic" tag has been created in Nova | 17:32 |
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| dtantsur | devananda, cool, thanks | 17:35 |
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| NobodyCam | nice | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Deprecate Ironic compute driver and sched manager https://review.openstack.org/119892 | 18:18 |
| dprince | devananda: ^^ | 18:18 |
| jroll | dprince: nice | 18:19 |
| dprince | jroll: thanks :) | 18:20 |
| jroll | I'll leave this on the review, but I think we should e.g. s/Ironic scheduler_host_manager is deprecated.../ironic.nova.scheduler.ironic_host_manager.IronicHostManager is deprecated.../ | 18:20 |
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| jroll | dpri<tab> :( | 18:31 |
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| jogo | have a quick question about the grenade patch: "Add Ironic sideways migration testing | 18:46 |
| jogo | " | 18:46 |
| jogo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111859/ | 18:46 |
| NobodyCam | I can attempt to answer | 18:47 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 18:47 |
| jogo | NobodyCam: the subsequent patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118515/ | 18:47 |
| jogo | isn't passing | 18:47 |
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| jogo | so does that mean there is an issue in 111859 or something else? | 18:48 |
| jogo | it also takes an hour and a half | 18:48 |
| jogo | wich is very slow | 18:48 |
| NobodyCam | humm | 18:48 |
| * NobodyCam looks in to the logs to see if he can spot where the error is comming from | 18:48 | |
| NobodyCam | The following services are not running after upgrade: nova-compute | 18:49 |
| NobodyCam | http://logs.openstack.org/15/118515/15/check/check-grenade-dsvm/36662f9/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2014-09-06_00_42_40_567 | 18:50 |
| jogo | NobodyCam: so that is expected to fail | 18:50 |
| jogo | but http://logs.openstack.org/15/118515/15/experimental/check-grenade-dsvm-ironic-sideways/d581408 isn't | 18:50 |
| Shrews | hrm. that started going sideways (pun intended) at patch set 8, which set VIRT_DRIVER=ironic in devstack. this may be dependent on devananda's devstack fix | 18:57 |
| Shrews | just a guess though | 18:57 |
| NobodyCam | humm: http://logs.openstack.org/15/118515/15/experimental/check-grenade-dsvm-ironic-sideways/d581408/logs/new/screen-ir-cond.txt.gz#_2014-09-06_20_25_59_924 | 18:58 |
| Shrews | that's odd | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | just a side note: Tc meeting in an hour | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:01 |
| devananda | jogo: that it takes 90 minutes is not unexpected | 19:02 |
| devananda | jogo: aiui, this is because it's doing a full tempest parallel run using the nova ironic driver, which is, in the gate's nested virt environment, MUCH slower than libvirt | 19:02 |
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| devananda | jogo: but i believe it passed yesterday, so this failure may be a result of something else? I'm not sure ... adam_g may know | 19:03 |
| jogo | devananda: full tempest? | 19:03 |
| jogo | grenade ususually just does a smoke run | 19:03 |
| adam_g | jogo, commenting in the review | 19:03 |
| adam_g | igonore that dependent patch, basically | 19:03 |
| devananda | jogo: er, right. i mean as opposed to the virtual-ironic[-nv] job that skips all the nova api tests, this one runs them w/ the ironic driver | 19:04 |
| jogo | adam_g: once you add your comment in gerrit let me know and happy to +W | 19:05 |
| devananda | jogo: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ironic_infra,n,z has some of those changes | 19:05 |
| adam_g | jogo, posted | 19:06 |
| jogo | adam_g: thanks and +Wed | 19:07 |
| adam_g | jogo, great, thanks | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | bb in time for tc meeting | 19:26 |
| aweeks | devananda: before the TC meeting today, I got a mostly-mocked-out version of a horizon dashboard up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115050/ | 19:36 |
| aweeks | devananda: its really not in great shape right now, but I'm currently working on integrating it with the API stuff that JoshNang added. currently, its my top priority--wish it were more done for the meeting but its what I've got | 19:37 |
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| NobodyCam | aweeks: :) Thank you :) | 19:40 |
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| devananda | aweeks: awesome, ty | 19:43 |
| aweeks | devananda: np :) | 19:44 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: any last minute items for tc meeting?] | 19:44 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: TC will spend some time discussing marconi/zaqar first | 19:44 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: there will probably be some discussion of ironic, and a follow up discussion next tuesday as well | 19:44 |
| devananda | this gives TC members time to raise questions, investigate for a week, and come back | 19:45 |
| NobodyCam | :) ahh so we're prob not going to get the "word" today | 19:45 |
| devananda | dunno. maybe. | 19:46 |
| * NobodyCam crosses fingers | 19:46 | |
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| aweeks | good luck! | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Syed Ismail Faizan Barmawer proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add uefi boot mode support in IloVirtualMediaIscsiDeploy https://review.openstack.org/116561 | 20:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Backport Nova review 119944 https://review.openstack.org/120113 | 20:23 |
| rloo | jroll: ^^ | 20:23 |
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| jroll | rloo: I wasn't worried about unit tests, just tempest :P thanks for doing that though! :) | 20:25 |
| rloo | jroll: I need more caffeine. I was thinking that the unit tests failed, so it wouldn't pass tempest. (Although maybe we should merge this anyway, in case someone does a diff) | 20:27 |
| jroll | rloo: no worries :) | 20:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Syed Ismail Faizan Barmawer proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add uefi boot mode support in IloVirtualMediaIscsiDeploy https://review.openstack.org/116561 | 20:40 |
| JayF | Who is supposed to answer questions on ask.openstack.org? | 20:51 |
| JayF | Like seriously, who is supposed to | 20:52 |
| NobodyCam | i just signed up yesteday :-p | 20:52 |
| NobodyCam | I have yet to go through and see whats there to answer | 20:52 |
| JayF | Like I'll gladly help people who drop in channel or somehow filter to -dev | 20:52 |
| JayF | but I don't think it should be a general contributor's job to be frontline support for Ironic | 20:52 |
| jroll | JayF: everybody! | 20:52 |
| JayF | especially when most of us work for companies that make serious bank selling that expertise in one form or another | 20:52 |
| jroll | go team | 20:53 |
| * rloo knows nothing about ask.openstack.org and wants to stay that way | 20:53 | |
| adam_g | gah that was fun. need to run for ~1hr. | 20:53 |
| jroll | rloo: it's stack overflow for openstack :P | 20:53 |
| rloo | jroll: I don't want to know, I don't see anything or hear anything ... ;) | 20:53 |
| jroll | :P | 20:53 |
| JayF | I mean I'm kinda 100% serious in my questino | 20:54 |
| JayF | if it's required to go to ask.o.o and answer questions to be integrated | 20:54 |
| NobodyCam | ok so I'll put up the api proxy code for nova | 20:54 |
| JayF | who is expected to pay people to answer questions free online? | 20:54 |
| JayF | I don't get it personally | 20:54 |
| lucasagomes | alright so document the migration and deprecation/proxy thing :) | 20:54 |
| jroll | I don't think anyone has an answer for that, JayF | 20:54 |
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| JayF | I think the answer is that someone got an expectation on a document somewhere | 20:55 |
| NobodyCam | JayF: looks like it just up to us to take care of it | 20:55 |
| JayF | without providing resources for fulfilling said expectation | 20:55 |
| Nisha | Hi Ruby | 20:55 |
| Nisha | rloo: hi, there | 20:56 |
| jroll | JayF: I expect as we get users, they will tend to help each other, there is already some of that going on there | 20:56 |
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| rloo | hi Nisha | 20:56 |
| devananda | sounds like we need to pony up some upgrade docs ASAP | 20:56 |
| devananda | and then, depending on what Nova decides, we might also need to dogpile on making the API proxy acceptable for them to merge | 20:57 |
| devananda | but that's basically it | 20:57 |
| jroll | yep | 20:57 |
| jroll | good work so far, everybody :) | 20:57 |
| lucasagomes | nice | 20:58 |
| rloo | yay! what is 'ASAP'? | 20:58 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, 1 week | 20:58 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, add me to the review list after you propose the proxy to nova | 20:58 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: ack | 20:58 |
| russell_h | JayF: the same people who pay developers to write software and put it online for free? | 20:59 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: 1 week is good/reasonable :-) | 20:59 |
| lucasagomes | yup | 20:59 |
| russell_h | we should make a rule that Ironic will only support "integrated" Linux distros | 20:59 |
| russell_h | where an "integrated" Linux distro is one that has free support | 21:00 |
| lucasagomes | aight, now it's quite late here :) time to go | 21:01 |
| lucasagomes | g'night everybody | 21:01 |
| jroll | russell_h: :P | 21:01 |
| NobodyCam | thank you lucasagomes ... have a good night | 21:01 |
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| devananda | lucas-zZz: fyi, "final revs of clients by Sep 18 (same as olso)" is being proposed cross projects | 21:13 |
| JayF | Is anyone aware of a 'superironic' client or effort towards making one? (i.e. like supernova/superglance for ironic) | 21:16 |
| NobodyCam | running to pick up the car... brb | 21:16 |
| devananda | JayF: i'm not even sure what that means | 21:18 |
| JayF | Oh really? Here I'll link it | 21:18 |
| devananda | JayF: there is a unified openstack client effort but taht doesn't sound like what you're referenceing | 21:18 |
| jroll | devananda: see http://major.io/2012/06/05/supernova-manage-multiple-openstack-nova-environments-with-ease/ | 21:18 |
| jroll | also see https://github.com/major/supernova | 21:18 |
| jroll | (tldr multi-environment nova client) | 21:19 |
| devananda | ah, gotcha | 21:19 |
| devananda | jroll: not that i know of | 21:19 |
| JayF | I want USE_KEYRING support for ironicclient | 21:19 |
| JayF | and superironic | 21:19 |
| JayF | I might work on one of those next hackdaty | 21:20 |
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| NobodyCam | cd nova | 21:27 |
| NobodyCam | doh | 21:27 |
| mrda | Morning Ironic! | 21:29 |
| NobodyCam | good morning mrda :) | 21:29 |
| mrda | yay, 119944 is in gate | 21:31 |
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| mrda | wow, last night gate for 5 jobs long, and check was 20 jobs. It's a little different 10 hours later :( | 21:33 |
| devananda | heh | 21:33 |
| rloo | mrda: fyi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120113/ | 21:35 |
| mrda | thanks rloo | 21:35 |
| devananda | mrda: dprince posted another rev on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119892/4 which appears to be failing things now | 21:36 |
| devananda | mrda: but the upside is we should be able to land it w/o waiting on the devstack change | 21:36 |
| mrda | why can't people leave things alone until they are working? :) | 21:36 |
| rloo | devananda: shouldn't we wait for devstack change first before landing 119892? | 21:37 |
| rloo | devananda: to make sure that the driver in nova works? | 21:37 |
| devananda | rloo: nope. this actually will test the driver in nova | 21:37 |
| devananda | rloo: it replaces the driver in our tree with a subclass of the one in nova's tree | 21:37 |
| rloo | devananda: oh yeah. you're right. | 21:37 |
| devananda | we do need the fix in nova to land first, tho | 21:37 |
| rloo | right, but this will fail w/o that fix. | 21:38 |
| devananda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119944/ | 21:38 |
| devananda | right | 21:38 |
| rloo | devstack tests will ignore the warnings in the logs, I hope ;) | 21:38 |
| mrda | looks like everyone's been busy while I've been afk | 21:39 |
| rloo | mrda: aren't we always? :-) | 21:40 |
| mrda | some days yes, other days it's easier to catch up :) | 21:41 |
| mrda | oooh, Thierry just marked 119944 as critical. | 21:42 |
| mrda | \o/ | 21:42 |
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| Nisha | Hello Core reviewers: Request review for the patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116561 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118578 | 22:00 |
| jroll | Nisha: what's the use case for PXEAndIloDriver, when we already have IloVirtualMediaIscsiDriver | 22:03 |
| jroll | Nisha: the only difference is PXE vs virtualmedia, and I don't see the point in using PXE when virtualmedia is available | 22:04 |
| JayF | jroll: I think that's not a good reason to disallow that driver | 22:04 |
| JayF | jroll: the better reason might be that it is a feature, without a matching spec/bp, post FF | 22:04 |
| jroll | I'm not disallowing | 22:05 |
| jroll | I'm just curious | 22:05 |
| jroll | JayF: the feature here is an ilo/pxe driver (that already existed) that now has uefi (which we have ffe'd) | 22:05 |
| JayF | I'm asking generally why the use case has to be made, honestly | 22:05 |
| JayF | hmm? | 22:05 |
| jroll | so I don't think that's an issue | 22:05 |
| jroll | I'm just curious what is the use case, not trying to block | 22:06 |
| jroll | they didn't add the driver | 22:06 |
| jroll | they just changed it to support uefi, aiui | 22:06 |
| JayF | ah gotcha | 22:06 |
| jroll | imbw | 22:06 |
| JayF | sorry as you know trying to pay attention to two things at once :/ | 22:06 |
| jroll | but that's how I understood it | 22:06 |
| jroll | even though the commit message says it adds a driver :P | 22:06 |
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| NobodyCam | humm seems I'm running in to the same error lucas did this morning: No package 'libvirt' found | 22:09 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: install libvirt-dev | 22:20 |
| devananda | mrda: I've got a fix for the error on 119892's python tests | 22:22 |
| devananda | mrda: do you want to address the reviewer feedback, or shall I ? | 22:22 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: on my mac for a tox run? | 22:23 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: for nova? yes | 22:23 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: they added python-libvirt as a requirement, which in turn requires libvirt header files | 22:24 |
| devananda | (yay) | 22:24 |
| NobodyCam | lol happy happy joy joy, /me need to check if brew will install dev versions | 22:26 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: not dev version -- development library for header files. I dont know what it's called on mac | 22:29 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: just use a vm :/ | 22:31 |
| NobodyCam | I may have to | 22:32 |
| jroll | (I hate to say that) | 22:32 |
| jroll | though 'brew install libvirt' might install headers on os x | 22:32 |
| jroll | I think it does | 22:32 |
| jroll | as brew always compiles from source | 22:33 |
| NobodyCam | will tell ya in a second | 22:33 |
| jroll | :P | 22:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Deprecate Ironic compute driver and sched manager https://review.openstack.org/119892 | 22:36 |
| mrda | devananda: sorry, was grabbing coffee | 22:36 |
| mrda | but back now | 22:36 |
| devananda | np | 22:36 |
| devananda | mrda: that ought to pass, I hope | 22:36 |
| * mrda looking atthe diffs | 22:37 | |
| devananda | it's passing tox for me locally now, at least (it wasn't before) | 22:37 |
| mrda | it'll take all day to get through zuul, even once it is approved | 22:39 |
| mrda | devananda: you'd like me to babysit 119892 and get it through the gate if possible? | 22:40 |
| mrda | (today) | 22:40 |
| adam_g | devananda, NobodyCam, all: want to chat about migration docs sometime this afternoon? im going to be out tomorrow and thurs and would like to get a WIP on a pad going today | 22:41 |
| jroll | devananda: +2'd that, have a quick thing inline but happy either way with it | 22:41 |
| NobodyCam | wishes the migration scripts would auto doc them selfs :-p | 22:42 |
| adam_g | NobodyCam, well, theres only one and its not doing much. there shouldn't be much to document other than the expectations of the migration, which is what im wondering/worried about. that is, making it clear we're migrating nodes and not instances | 22:44 |
| devananda | mrda: that'd be great, thanks. This should actually fail the virtual-ironic-nv job until 119944 lands in Nova, so that needs babysitting too | 22:44 |
| devananda | adam_g: so, yes, let's start a pad | 22:45 |
| devananda | adam_g: Nova expects us to migrate instances, even though we're not *testing* that | 22:45 |
| mrda | so the focus for today will be to get 119944 and 119892 to land if possible. | 22:45 |
| devananda | mrda: if those two land, I will be very very happy | 22:45 |
| mrda | devananda: me too :) | 22:46 |
| adam_g | devananda, /me wonders is that even possible? i dont recall migrating instance state from one virt driver to another ever being supported | 22:46 |
| mrda | And then I can go on 4 weeks vacation tomorrow with a clear conscience :) | 22:46 |
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| devananda | adam_g: yea, it's not supported by any other virt driver, but everyone seems to think we're special ;) | 22:47 |
| devananda | mrda: as well you should! | 22:47 |
| NobodyCam | mrda: *cough* FOUR weeks... wow... enjoy | 22:47 |
| devananda | mrda: that's basically "see you in paris" eh? | 22:47 |
| mrda | well, back for 3(?) weeks, then Paris | 22:48 |
| devananda | adam_g: if you have the env set up, I'd be super curious if it works (even if its unsupported) | 22:48 |
| mrda | this was planned before i started at Rackspace, so it's great to finally get here :) | 22:48 |
| adam_g | devananda, i dont have an env up. im trying to think the best way to get a functional nova-bm up. probably tripleo | 22:49 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: brew installing libvirt did not get rid of my No package 'libvirt' found error | 22:50 |
| JayF | mrda: where are you headed? | 22:50 |
| NobodyCam | :( | 22:50 |
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| NobodyCam | brb | 22:51 |
| devananda | adam_g: probably | 22:51 |
| devananda | adam_g: anyhow, let's start documenting what we know | 22:51 |
| adam_g | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicMIgration | 22:52 |
| adam_g | er | 22:52 |
| adam_g | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicMigration | 22:52 |
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| mrda | JayF: ORD, NYC, MCO, HNL :) | 22:56 |
| JayF | mrda: I hope you enjoy HI :) I know I did | 23:03 |
| mrda | \o/ | 23:03 |
| JayF | I don't know MCO though? | 23:03 |
| JayF | mrda: protip: Buy wardrobe of amazingly comfy HI shirts for dirt cheap while there | 23:04 |
| JayF | Hawaiian shirts: Pro: Super comfy Con: Becoming the guy who wears Hawaiian shirts | 23:04 |
| * NobodyCam has a closet full of HI shirts | 23:05 | |
| mrda | MCO == Orlando | 23:05 |
| JayF | Aha. Visiting any oversized mice? | 23:06 |
| mrda | I have 3 kids JayF, so the answer is of course! | 23:06 |
| NobodyCam | sooo much walking required at that mouse house. /me likes the west cost house | 23:07 |
| JayF | Niice. I remember my two childhood visits to Disney World very well :D | 23:07 |
| mikal | JayF: the problem is the dirt cheap Hawaiian shirt are poor quality and fall apart | 23:07 |
| mikal | Tommy Bahama all the way | 23:07 |
| * mrda is planning 4x Disney Parks + 2x Universal Parks | 23:07 | |
| * mrda will have sore feet | 23:07 | |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 23:07 |
| JayF | I have two of them and am wearing them very spaced out as to avoid the "guy who wears hawaiian shirts" situation :) | 23:07 |
| mikal | When do you stop your holiday to write an API proxy? | 23:07 |
| mikal | I get made fun of for my perfectly sensible cow boy shirt | 23:08 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: :( | 23:08 |
| mrda | mikal: Fortunately that is in hand with other ironic devs | 23:08 |
| mikal | It makes me sad | 23:08 |
| * mikal secretly hopes we kill it with fire | 23:10 | |
| mikal | But I was also hoping to ruin your vacation | 23:10 |
| mrda | mikal: my manager would not approve of that! | 23:11 |
| mikal | Your manager learned to manage from watchin the simpsons, so you're in trouble here | 23:11 |
| mrda | A lot of things make sense now | 23:12 |
| mikal | Also, please go to the hammock district and collect a hammock for me | 23:12 |
| jroll | lol | 23:12 |
| mikal | That Hank Scorpio episode is full of useful advice | 23:12 |
| devananda | adam_g: we should probably make this more prose like at some point | 23:13 |
| NobodyCam | ieek: http://pavlok.com shocks you if you don't go to the gym, posts on your facebook account and can take money from your bank account.. | 23:13 |
| devananda | anyone else want to take a poke at upgrade docs? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicMigration | 23:13 |
| devananda | mikal: wait, you know of a 1k node baremetal installation? | 23:15 |
| jroll | o.o | 23:15 |
| jroll | devananda: this is where we tell you that onmetal is built on nova-bm | 23:15 |
| devananda | hahaha | 23:16 |
| mrda | O.o | 23:16 |
| mikal | devananda: yes, I do | 23:16 |
| devananda | o.0 | 23:16 |
| mikal | They are brave, let's leave it there | 23:16 |
| adam_g | devananda, definitely. just notes atm. where should this be proposed in final form, btw? ironic docs? | 23:16 |
| mikal | And not a public cloud | 23:16 |
| jroll | for my curiousity, is this within rackspace? | 23:17 |
| mikal | jroll: nup | 23:17 |
| mrda | phew | 23:17 |
| jroll | ^ | 23:17 |
| mikal | Sorry, I don't think they authorized me to mention their name is all | 23:17 |
| mikal | They're a "web company" | 23:17 |
| mikal | Its used hsoting their own stuff internally | 23:17 |
| jroll | yeah | 23:18 |
| jroll | interesting | 23:18 |
| devananda | mikal: so it's reasonable to expect that they won't respond publicly to your email then? | 23:18 |
| devananda | that would be unfortunate | 23:18 |
| mikal | devananda: they've actually said they will repave with ironic | 23:18 |
| devananda | ah, cool | 23:18 |
| mrda | \o/ | 23:18 |
| mikal | devananda: my point there was more that if one group did it, others might ahve too | 23:18 |
| devananda | gotcha | 23:18 |
| mikal | They have zero interest in a migration for what its worth | 23:19 |
| mikal | They're big enough to just rebuild it three racks to the left | 23:19 |
| jroll | ben makes a good point here | 23:21 |
| jroll | if they don't update their tooling to use ironic, their baremetal service will be read-only | 23:21 |
| mikal | This is true | 23:21 |
| mikal | But perhaps the thing they have is a management dashboard | 23:21 |
| jroll | which is mostly useless, imo | 23:21 |
| jroll | right | 23:21 |
| mikal | Or something like that they don't want to re-write | 23:22 |
| jroll | yeah | 23:22 |
| mikal | Its a weak argument though | 23:22 |
| jroll | rewrite is exaggerating, I think, but I see your point | 23:22 |
| mrda | jroll: thanks for the +2 on 119892 | 23:34 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add conductor_hostname property to nodes https://review.openstack.org/109688 | 23:56 |
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