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| russell_h | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97757/ | 04:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/96063 | 06:02 |
| vinbs | Hello Ironic! | 06:05 |
| k4n0 | Hi | 06:05 |
| vinbs | I'm trying to launch instances on baremetal using ironic | 06:06 |
| vinbs | I have an all-in-one node icehouse setup | 06:06 |
| vinbs | When I launch an instance, I see that the dnsmasq is running on a tap interface, but there's no connection between this tap interface and the physical interface (management interface) to which the baremetal server is connected | 06:08 |
| vinbs | so the baremetal server does no receive any dhcp offers | 06:09 |
| vinbs | and the instance launch fails | 06:09 |
| vinbs | How do I configure my networking for the dhcp packets to reach the physical interface to which the baremetal is connected? | 06:10 |
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| lucasagomes | are we still broken? :( | 08:46 |
| vinbs | Hi Haomeng! :) | 08:47 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: :) | 08:48 |
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| vinbs | Haomeng, I'm still stuck with getting dhcp to work :( | 08:48 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: :) | 08:48 |
| Haomeng | try to deploy a vm with nova first | 08:49 |
| Haomeng | to verify your neutron env | 08:49 |
| vinbs | I have done that, and that works fine | 08:49 |
| Haomeng | ok | 08:49 |
| vinbs | even running my own dnsmasq directly on the physical interface also works | 08:50 |
| vinbs | I can see pxe boot happening | 08:50 |
| Haomeng | that mean your physical baremetal node can not connect your openstack node in L2 level | 08:50 |
| vinbs | yes | 08:50 |
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| Haomeng | so have to check the physical network topology | 08:50 |
| Haomeng | how your physical node is connectted with the openstack node? | 08:50 |
| vinbs | physical node is connected to a private switch to which the management interface of openstack node is also connected | 08:51 |
| Haomeng | lucasagomes: yes, still depends on nova HostState code change I think | 08:52 |
| vinbs | I don't think it's a problem with the physical setup, because running dnsmasq directly on the physical interface (management interface of openstack) works | 08:52 |
| lucasagomes | Haomeng, yeah :( just issued a reverify there | 08:52 |
| Haomeng | lucasagomes: :) | 08:52 |
| lucasagomes | hope it goes thru this time | 08:52 |
| vinbs | the baremetal receives the dhcp offer and pxe boot goes through | 08:53 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: you mean, you worked around to setup a dnsmasq to serve the physical node dhcp RA request? | 08:53 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, yes | 08:54 |
| vinbs | but then openstack doesn't know that the dhcp RA request was served, and the launch instance fails | 08:54 |
| vinbs | even though pxe boot goes through | 08:54 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: so for this case, we have to check the dnsmasq which is created by our ironic baremeatl boot call, to see if the dnsmasq arguments are right, such as mac address | 08:55 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: can you try to capture the package to check where the dhcp ra package is missing? | 08:55 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, I checked the hosts file, it does get updated with the proper mac address (of the baremetal) and also an IP assigned to it | 08:55 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: capture from our openstack node's physical nic, to see if it receives the dhcp request from our physical pxe booting | 08:56 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: did you try with flat network this time? | 08:56 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, dnsmasq is running on a tap interface and I don't see any bridges between this tap interface and the openstack node's physical nic | 08:57 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, is that a problem? | 08:57 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: great finding | 08:58 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: that mean the layer 2 is not connectte to physical, did you run with 'local' network type? | 08:58 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: tap should bind br-int bridge I think | 08:59 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: you can bind them by manually | 08:59 |
| Haomeng | then capture the package from tap which is used for our dnsmasq to see if the dhcp request packages can be received from this tap | 08:59 |
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| vinbs | Haomeng, tap is binded to br-int, i.e tap interface shows up under br-int when I execute ovs-vsctl show | 09:00 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: so have to check where our dhcp package is missing | 09:00 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: ok, so can you run tcpdump to capture the package from tap device, and run dhcp request from physical node, such as reboot from pxe | 09:01 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: to see if we can get dhcp request package from the tap device | 09:01 |
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| vinbs | Haomeng, the connection is broken between the tap interface and openstack node's physical nic. The dhcp requests are being received at the openstack node's physical nic but I don't see it reaching the tap interface | 09:03 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, I used tcpdump to check this | 09:03 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: ok, do you make sure the tap is binding to br-int? and if eth0/1 is in br-int ? | 09:04 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: so we have to check how tap is connect to physical nic | 09:04 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, tap interface is binded to br-int, but I don't see physical nic binded to br-int | 09:05 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, should I do it manually? | 09:06 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: can you show the result of ' ovs-vsctl show'? | 09:06 |
| vinbs | yes | 09:06 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, let me do it | 09:06 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: I guess the neutron network is 'local' type, which type will not connect to real physical network | 09:06 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, here's ovs-vsctl show command output http://paste.openstack.org/show/83396/ | 09:08 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: ok, thank | 09:08 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: by default, our eth0 is for admin network | 09:09 |
| Haomeng | so our eth1 should used to connect the vm | 09:10 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, by admin network you mean the management network of openstack? | 09:10 |
| Haomeng | y | 09:10 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, I thought pxe boot would happen through the management network itself | 09:11 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: do you make sure the physical pxe node eth0 is connect to same switch with our openstack eth0/1? | 09:11 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: yes | 09:11 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: did you enable vlan in your physical network? | 09:12 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, no.. I haven't enabled vlan | 09:12 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: ok, see your output, we use eth2 as ext network, right? | 09:13 |
| Haomeng | and can not find eth0/1 | 09:13 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, in my case eth1 is the management network | 09:13 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, so eth1 is supposed to show up under br-int? | 09:13 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: I think so | 09:14 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: we can try to add eth1 into br-int and set br-int ip = eth1 old ip | 09:15 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: and reset eth1 ip | 09:15 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, but since eth1 is the management interface and I have used the ip of this interface while setting up openstack services, wouldn't it be problem if I reset it? | 09:16 |
| Haomeng | if eth2 is connect to pxe node | 09:16 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: we can add eth2 into br-int | 09:17 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, it need not be management interface? | 09:17 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: just make L2 connection with any physical nic to connect to physcal switch | 09:17 |
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| vinbs | Haomeng, would openstack look for the pxe node through just management interface or any interface on the openstack node? | 09:18 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: I think, dhcp package should be in vm data network | 09:19 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: but for now, we have two options, one is add eth1 into br-int , 2nd one - add eth2 into br-int | 09:20 |
| Haomeng | to make br-int is connecting to physical network nic | 09:20 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: else it can not received the dhcp request from eth0/1 | 09:20 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: I will be away for a while and get back to you:) | 09:21 |
| vinbs | Haomeng: thanks a lot.. will try adding eth1 or eth2 to br-int :) | 09:23 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: I think the net created by your neurton is 'local' or 'gre', so these L2 net will not connect to physical nic directly | 10:08 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: suggest to use 'flat' net type | 10:09 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, yes I have gre type network, I'm changing it to vlan | 10:10 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, should I use flat instead? | 10:10 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: suggest use flat, that is simple than vlan | 10:10 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: for vlan, we have to make the physical switch is enabled for trunk mode | 10:10 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: to accept all vlan tags and does not drop the vlan tag | 10:11 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, yes my physical switch is enabled for trunk mode | 10:11 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: for each port? | 10:11 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, yes for all the ports | 10:11 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: ok | 10:12 |
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| vinbs | Haomeng, is there any guide i can use to configure my network as flat? | 10:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: Enabling IPMI double bridge support https://review.openstack.org/98208 | 10:13 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: let me help you to find some neutron admin guide | 10:13 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, thanks :) | 10:14 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: welcome:) | 10:15 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: and we can raise the problem to Neutron irc:) | 10:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: Enabling IPMI double bridge support https://review.openstack.org/98208 | 10:15 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: :) | 10:15 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, sure:) | 10:16 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/under_the_hood_openvswitch.html | 10:23 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: this is neutron offical document | 10:23 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: hope this can help you | 10:23 |
| Haomeng | vinbs: good luck:) | 10:25 |
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| vinbs | Haomeng, thanks for the help :) | 10:27 |
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| Haomeng | vinbs: :) | 10:34 |
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| vinbs | Haomeng, hello again :) | 12:24 |
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| vinbs | Haomeng, I'm getting an error when I try to create a flat network | 12:25 |
| vinbs | Haomeng, I have made these changes to ml2: | 12:26 |
| vinbs | type_drivers = flat | 12:26 |
| vinbs | tenant_network_types = flat | 12:26 |
| vinbs | mechanism_drivers = openvswitch | 12:27 |
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| romcheg | Morning guys! | 13:03 |
| romcheg | lucasagomes: I won't be able to be present on the meeting today. | 13:04 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg, hey, no worries | 13:05 |
| lucasagomes | morning :) | 13:05 |
| romcheg | lucasagomes: If anyone asks the progress of the migration path: I deployed Nova BM along with Ironic to detect whether my DB migration scripts work | 13:05 |
| NobodyCam | good morning Ironic | 13:06 |
| lucasagomes | morning NobodyCam | 13:06 |
| romcheg | Morning NobodyCam! | 13:06 |
| NobodyCam | hey hey lucasagomes :) | 13:06 |
| NobodyCam | and romcheg | 13:06 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg, right, did it work? | 13:06 |
| romcheg | lucasagomes: It did, but I'm trying to create a test for that | 13:07 |
| romcheg | Both of the DBs might change | 13:07 |
| lucasagomes | true | 13:07 |
| romcheg | I'd like to run a sort of non-voting job to detect patches which break migration | 13:07 |
| NobodyCam | oh man 97757 still has not landed :( | 13:08 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, gate still broken :( patch got verified again tis morning, now waiting on the gate queue again | 13:08 |
| lucasagomes | this* | 13:08 |
| NobodyCam | oh man | 13:08 |
| NobodyCam | this is very not good | 13:08 |
| romcheg | Some patches did not get their +As because of broken gates | 13:08 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg, right that would be good when we get the tests written | 13:08 |
| lucasagomes | yeah, many of them actually are now waiting for the broken gate to get fixed | 13:09 |
| lucasagomes | and the jobs in gate are still taking a lot of time to run | 13:09 |
| lucasagomes | :/ | 13:09 |
| romcheg | I'm afraid of the need to rebase those patches because they already have several +2s | 13:09 |
| romcheg | lucasagomes: we have someone at Mirantis who was working on tests like that. | 13:10 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg, I think mostly of them just need a recheck | 13:10 |
| romcheg | I'd like to chat with her but it's a holiday here x_x | 13:10 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg, no worries | 13:10 |
| romcheg | Too many holidays | 13:10 |
| lucasagomes | :) well that's not a bad thing I suppose | 13:11 |
| romcheg | It depends :) | 13:11 |
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| Shrews | we are still b0rked? *sigh* | 13:15 |
| rloo | if we take everything out of the gate, will that speed up things? | 13:16 |
| * Shrews makes coffee and mumbles to himself | 13:17 | |
| lucasagomes | rloo, we have no ironic patches in gate :/ | 13:17 |
| rloo | hi everyone ;) | 13:17 |
| lucasagomes | we didn't approve any cause it's broken | 13:17 |
| lucasagomes | Shrews, rloo good morning | 13:17 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: ok, that's good. | 13:17 |
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| NobodyCam | good morning rloo | 13:24 |
| NobodyCam | and Shrews | 13:24 |
| rloo | morning NobodyCam! | 13:24 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 13:24 |
| Shrews | morning NobodyCam, rloo, lucasagomes, et.al. | 13:24 |
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| GheRivero | morning all | 13:48 |
| jroll | morning y'all | 13:48 |
| jroll | b 3 | 13:48 |
| jroll | oops | 13:48 |
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| matty_dubs | jroll: You just sunk my battleship. | 13:48 |
| jroll | that's not good, I was just playing bingo | 13:49 |
| jroll | :P | 13:50 |
| * matty_dubs has been tied up in some non-Ironic stuff here, but is always up for a game of IRC Battleship. | 13:50 | |
| jroll | so, I'm looking at e.g. https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/pxe.py#L176-178 | 13:51 |
| jroll | and wondering if our convention for object is node['uuid | 13:51 |
| jroll | node['uuid'] or node.uuid | 13:51 |
| jroll | or if we have a convention at all | 13:51 |
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| NobodyCam | morning GheRivero jroll and matty_dubs | 13:54 |
| rloo | jroll: use node.uuid. | 13:54 |
| rloo | jroll: but I won't -1 you if you use node['uuid'] | 13:54 |
| matty_dubs | Morning NobodyCam | 13:54 |
| lucasagomes | morning matty_dubs jroll GheRivero | 13:54 |
| rloo | jroll: there is a series of patches to convert from node['uuid'] to node.uuid, but I wouldn't hold my breath on when those land. | 13:54 |
| matty_dubs | Heya lucasagomes | 13:55 |
| jroll | rloo: I feel like we should have a convention | 13:55 |
| jroll | oh | 13:55 |
| jroll | heh | 13:55 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, +1, yeah we want to land those refactoring patches in J1 | 13:55 |
| lucasagomes | but :( we need our gate unblocked first >.< | 13:55 |
| jroll | heh, yeah :( | 13:56 |
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| NobodyCam | its sad we cann't revert a patch within 4 days :( | 13:58 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yeah, well it's kinda a special case | 13:58 |
| lucasagomes | we had many problems happening at the same time | 13:59 |
| lucasagomes | just hope the verify doesn't fail again in gate | 13:59 |
| * NobodyCam is not holding his breath. | 14:00 | |
| NobodyCam | :( | 14:00 |
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| NobodyCam | it's running now | 14:02 |
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| lucasagomes | hah | 14:03 |
| jroll | lol | 14:04 |
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| Shrews | *nova network is a blackhole* ... LOL | 14:34 |
| Shrews | though, it also makes me cry | 14:35 |
| Shrews | based on sean's email, we may *never* get 97757 through | 14:38 |
| lucasagomes | Shrews, it's almost! | 14:45 |
| BadCub | Good Morning and Happy Monday :-p | 14:46 |
| NobodyCam | morning BadCub | 14:46 |
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| jroll | so the mid-cycle is actually in hillsboro, right? not beaverton? :P | 14:57 |
| NobodyCam | thats what I get from the links | 14:58 |
| NobodyCam | omg 97757 passed | 14:59 |
| lucasagomes | wow seems 97757 was verifiedddd | 14:59 |
| lucasagomes | ! | 14:59 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yeah! | 14:59 |
| NobodyCam | lol :) happy dance | 14:59 |
| jroll | finally! | 14:59 |
| * jroll can get some work done now :P | 14:59 | |
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| NobodyCam | just took people watching it like a toster, as we all know a watched toster never pops | 15:00 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 15:00 |
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| lucasagomes | oh yeah | 15:01 |
| jroll | heh | 15:01 |
| lucasagomes | "... and it was merged." | 15:01 |
| lucasagomes | hallelujah! | 15:01 |
| NobodyCam | Change has been successfully merged into the git repository. | 15:01 |
| NobodyCam | what bug are we going to recheck with? | 15:02 |
| lucasagomes | no bug? | 15:03 |
| rloo | guess there's a bunch of patches that might need to be rebased. | 15:03 |
| lucasagomes | yeah | 15:04 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 15:05 |
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| rloo | I'm guessing we want the approved stuff to go through first? Is there a reason to do 'recheck no bug' before we have a bunch merged? | 15:13 |
| comstud | i just recheck no bug'd mine | 15:15 |
| rloo | comstud: your https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96912/ seems to be the at the start of a chain of approved patches. | 15:15 |
| comstud | no matter what jenkins is going to need a valid +1 from a check | 15:16 |
| comstud | before it runs the gate/verify jobs.. | 15:16 |
| comstud | so you might as well recheck yourself | 15:16 |
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| comstud | nod | 15:17 |
| rloo | comstud: yeah, so should we recheck only the ones that have 2 +2s. If we recheck everything, that'll slow things down? | 15:17 |
| NobodyCam | I just no big'd several of mine | 15:18 |
| comstud | if you do them in order that you want them to merge.. it doesn't matter too much | 15:18 |
| NobodyCam | s/big/bug/ | 15:18 |
| rloo | ok | 15:19 |
| NobodyCam | oh rloo (/me says with a big smile) | 15:19 |
| NobodyCam | (with big puppy dog eyes) | 15:20 |
| NobodyCam | 93313???? | 15:20 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 15:20 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: ha ha. I was wondering what you were going to ask for :-) Yeah, I have your patch open but was wondering if I should do some recheck no bug, etc first. | 15:21 |
| NobodyCam | I have no bug'd them already | 15:21 |
| NobodyCam | hehehe | 15:21 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: not yours. Eg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86536/ | 15:21 |
| NobodyCam | that one need rebasing | 15:22 |
| rloo | that one has a dependency on comstud's. and it shows outdated. I think dtantsur|pto did this last week to try to get some ordering in the approved patches. | 15:22 |
| NobodyCam | Mikhail_D_wk: you here? | 15:22 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: so, should it be rebased on comstud's, or should we just remove the dependency? | 15:22 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: there might be 5 or so that are in a chain. | 15:23 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: if you want to untangle/deal with those, I'll review your 93133. | 15:23 |
| Shrews | i just rechecked https://review.openstack.org/98201 which should at least try to prevent 97757 from happening again | 15:24 |
| Samolo | , | 15:25 |
| NobodyCam | Shrews: awesome, :) | 15:25 |
| rloo | Shrews: let's hope it passes! | 15:25 |
| Shrews | rloo: indeed. i keep hitting the nova network ssh bug on *everything* | 15:25 |
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| Shrews | ssh timeout* bug, that is | 15:26 |
| rloo | Shrews: so there are still other hurdles in the way :-( | 15:26 |
| Shrews | unfortunately | 15:27 |
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| NobodyCam | morning Samolo :) | 15:30 |
| Shrews | NobodyCam: care to fix the topic? | 15:32 |
| NobodyCam | #openstack-ironic You're not a channel operator :( | 15:32 |
| Shrews | oh, thought you had ops. /me waits for devananda | 15:32 |
| NobodyCam | heheheh | 15:32 |
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| NobodyCam | think Mikhail_D_wk wouold mind us rebasing his patch? | 15:36 |
| Samolo | hi all | 15:36 |
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| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: I though it was only debug that we don't i18n now | 15:42 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yeah | 15:42 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, I think I heard something about not using i18n in the exception messages as well | 15:43 |
| lucasagomes | because when an exception occurs we are not sure whether the i18n thing is operating correct or not | 15:43 |
| NobodyCam | oh /me may not have heard that, but on the road to much | 15:43 |
| lucasagomes | not sure... so yeah probably we have to i18n that strings then :0 | 15:43 |
| lucasagomes | :) | 15:43 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 15:43 |
| NobodyCam | gah still getting TypeError: __init__() takes at most 4 arguments (5 given) | 15:44 |
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| lucasagomes | ew really?! | 15:45 |
| NobodyCam | :( | 15:45 |
| lucasagomes | wtf | 15:45 |
| lucasagomes | :( | 15:45 |
| NobodyCam | 93313 :( | 15:45 |
| NobodyCam | lol but only on py27 | 15:46 |
| Samolo | i'm facing an error while trying to delete and instance (baremetal) in devStack context | 15:46 |
| NobodyCam | must be a repo cache issue | 15:46 |
| Samolo | i've got this error : | 15:46 |
| Samolo | [Error: Error destroying the instance on node 743ae4bc-1632-44ca-9b8f-0e039a874fec. Provision state still 'deleting'.]. | 15:46 |
| comstud | nova is not waiting long enough | 15:46 |
| comstud | there's a couple of potential fixes for that | 15:46 |
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| Samolo | thanks comstud | 15:49 |
| comstud | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98184/ | 15:49 |
| comstud | that's one of them | 15:49 |
| comstud | I think there's also a review to bump up nova's timeout | 15:49 |
| comstud | or there was talk of it | 15:49 |
| Samolo | cool, i appreciate your help :) | 15:49 |
| comstud | np | 15:50 |
| comstud | Samolo: ther'es some configs you can tweak for now | 15:50 |
| comstud | [ironic] | 15:51 |
| comstud | api_max_retries | 15:51 |
| comstud | api_retry_interval | 15:51 |
| comstud | in nova.conf | 15:51 |
| Samolo | i check that rigth now | 15:52 |
| Samolo | thanks a lot ! | 15:53 |
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| Samolo | comstud : thanks it work ! | 15:57 |
| comstud | np | 15:57 |
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| Samolo | my instance is weel deleted and does'nt appear anymore in horizon | 15:57 |
| Samolo | you save me hours | 15:57 |
| Samolo | thanks ! | 15:57 |
| comstud | excellent, maybe I should have asked for some money first | 15:58 |
| comstud | :) | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: iPXE boot https://review.openstack.org/98822 | 16:01 |
| NobodyCam | oh nice! /me tries to make time to read that | 16:02 |
| lucasagomes | :) | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Cleanup mock patch without `with` part 2 https://review.openstack.org/86536 | 16:13 |
| NobodyCam | Just a rebase ^^^^ | 16:13 |
| NobodyCam | removed 97447 | 16:13 |
| devananda | morning, all! | 16:13 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, morning! | 16:17 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, tl;dr 97757 got merged minutes ago :D | 16:17 |
| NobodyCam | good morning devananda | 16:17 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: so I see :) | 16:17 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: got any rechecks going on our patches to confirm that ironic's gate is unbroken? | 16:17 |
| NobodyCam | though I have see some jobs fail still | 16:18 |
| NobodyCam | with the same error | 16:18 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, jobs still failing :( idk if it's some cache thingy going on there | 16:18 |
| NobodyCam | ya I kinda think it is | 16:18 |
| NobodyCam | we're just to quick | 16:18 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: job needs to start after the merge of 97757 to get latest trunk | 16:19 |
| devananda | rloo: fwiw, we should really avoid "recehck no bug" when at all possible -- and instead do "recheck bug ###" | 16:19 |
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| devananda | this helps the QA team to identify bugs that are causing the msot problems // proiritize their work | 16:19 |
| rloo | devananda: ok. (That was based on observing others do 'recheck no bug'.) | 16:20 |
| devananda | rloo: it's widely [u|ab]sed | 16:20 |
| devananda | gah. it's too early. my brain totally failed at that | 16:21 |
| devananda | [ab]used | 16:21 |
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| rloo | devananda: ha ha. caffeine hasn't kicked in yet? Yes, we'll try to be better ;) | 16:22 |
| devananda | it's goign to feel "too early" for a while -- last week, my body decided that I wasn't going to have more coffee. | 16:23 |
| devananda | we're still disagreeing about that | 16:23 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: :( | 16:23 |
| rloo | ooo... | 16:24 |
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| lucasagomes | :( | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Work around iscsiadm delete failures https://review.openstack.org/96577 | 16:31 |
| NobodyCam | more rebasing ^^ | 16:31 |
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| rloo | I'm seeing some patches being verified successfully now! Yay! (eg https://review.openstack.org/97047) | 16:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: iPXE boot https://review.openstack.org/98822 | 16:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add retry logic to iscsiadm commands https://review.openstack.org/98510 | 16:37 |
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| devananda | heh, that's awesome - 96902 now fails because I added a check for ipmitool presence on the system | 16:40 |
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| lucasagomes | damn :( | 16:41 |
| ellenh | Hi everyone, I'm new here and looking for some good beginner bugs/issues to work on -- does anyone have any suggestions? | 16:41 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, btw, can you update the topic of the channel now that 97757 was merged | 16:41 |
| devananda | ack | 16:41 |
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| NobodyCam | bbt...brb | 16:43 |
| lucasagomes | ellenh, you can check our bug tracker and look for low/wishlist bugs | 16:43 |
| lucasagomes | ellenh, this one seems good https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1286374 | 16:44 |
| lucasagomes | or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1319637 | 16:44 |
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| *** devananda changes topic to "OpenStack Bare Metal Provisioning | Docs: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/ | Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic | Status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard" | 16:45 | |
| ellenh | lucasagomes: cool, thanks | 16:45 |
| lucasagomes | np, yw | 16:45 |
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| devananda | fwiw, confirmed that current ironic fails on old nova, but after rebuilding tox venv, it passes | 16:52 |
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| devananda | so we should see passes in our check/gate queue once the upstream caches catch up | 16:52 |
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| NobodyCam | jumping on hte one voice conf call | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Mock seamicroclient lib in unit tests if not present https://review.openstack.org/90174 | 17:08 |
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| lucasagomes | alright I'll be back for the meeting | 17:44 |
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| rloo | I am seeing check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic failures (eg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86536/). Looks like due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1326754 | 17:44 |
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| lifeless | NobodyCam: failed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97590/7 :( | 17:48 |
| NobodyCam | lifeless: I think it will just need a recheck. /me beleieves he was just to quick the first time with the recheck. repo's needed some time to cache the fix | 17:49 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: yeah. Just use the bug number so we don't abuse 'recheck no bug' ;) | 17:51 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: yep... is 1326312 our number? | 17:51 |
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| rloo | NobodyCam: I don't know. That isn't the one with the fixed patch. But it is a bug ;) | 17:52 |
| lifeless | NobodyCam: also I just -1'd it. | 17:52 |
| lifeless | :) | 17:52 |
| NobodyCam | lol :) /me fixes before rechecking hehehehe | 17:53 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: yeah, ok to use that bug number I think. It is referred to by the patch that fixes things. | 17:53 |
| NobodyCam | humm did review.openstack just go away? | 17:55 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: sorry, I was looking at the patch-that-was-going-to-fix-before-deciding-to-roll-back. The bug is 1326289. | 17:55 |
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| devananda | ugh - https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1326754 | 17:55 |
| devananda | 93 test failures in the last 12 hrs from that | 17:55 |
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| rloo | devananda: Is it worth doing rechecks for 1326754? | 17:57 |
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| devananda | rloo: yes | 17:59 |
| NobodyCam | lifeless: ack.. will get that updated! | 17:59 |
| * devananda proposes a logstash search for it | 17:59 | |
| rloo | devananda: thx, I did it for one, but wasn't sure if I should hold off. | 17:59 |
| * jroll plugs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98506/ for review ;) | 18:01 | |
| jroll | s/;)/:)/ | 18:01 |
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| devananda | rloo: oh, nvm. there's already an E-R query for 1326754 | 18:07 |
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| * devananda wonders why that didn't trigger E-R to post anything | 18:08 | |
| lifeless | is it a non-voting job? | 18:08 |
| lifeless | dwalleck_: hmm, its happenin on check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic | 18:09 |
| lifeless | bah | 18:09 |
| lifeless | devananda: ^ | 18:09 |
| lifeless | devananda: thats not a tripleo node, its a regular dvsm node, right ? | 18:10 |
| devananda | right | 18:10 |
| devananda | which is voting in our pipeline | 18:10 |
| devananda | right | 18:10 |
| devananda | search for 1326754 on http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ | 18:10 |
| lifeless | interesting | 18:10 |
| devananda | 455 fails in 14 days :( | 18:10 |
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| lifeless | devananda: across all jobs | 18:11 |
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| lifeless | devananda: add AND build_name:"check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic" | 18:15 |
| lifeless | devananda: to your search | 18:15 |
| devananda | lifeless: that failure only happens in the virtual-ironic jobs | 18:16 |
| lifeless | devananda: no, it doesn't | 18:16 |
| jroll | what's our recheck bug # for the 97757 fiasco? | 18:16 |
| lifeless | devananda: it happens in tripleo too | 18:16 |
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| lifeless | devananda: and it happens in a -nv job as well | 18:16 |
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| lifeless | devananda: 147 in the last day that are not on check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic | 18:17 |
| devananda | lifeless: ack | 18:17 |
| lifeless | devananda: but are on check-tripleo-ironic-seed-precise or check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic-nv | 18:17 |
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| rloo | jroll: 1326312 was the bug, but the bug associated with 97757 is 1326289. | 18:20 |
| jroll | rloo: thanks! | 18:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Rework make_partitions logic when preserve_ephemeral is set https://review.openstack.org/97590 | 18:41 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Add a HardwareManager method to erase devices https://review.openstack.org/97871 | 18:44 |
| Shrews | Anyone seen this error in a py2[67] job? "PolicyNotAuthorized: Policy doesn't allow example:get_http to be performed." | 18:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Wipe any metadata from a nodes disk https://review.openstack.org/93133 | 18:45 |
| rloo | Shrews: nope. That is odd. Is that from ironic? | 18:46 |
| Shrews | rloo: no, nova | 18:47 |
| Shrews | my api test change :( | 18:47 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Expose decom.erase_hardware command via API https://review.openstack.org/98591 | 18:48 |
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| rloo | Shrews: looks like a unit test is failing (something in nova/tests/test_policy.py)? | 18:53 |
| Shrews | rloo: yeah. no open bug seemed to match. i may need to open a new one | 18:54 |
| devananda | dtantsur|pto: just checking -- you're not around, right? :) | 18:55 |
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| devananda | meeting time in a few minutes | 18:57 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: hehehe per your wish rev #60 of 93313 :-p | 18:57 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 18:57 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: great minds think alike sometimes ;) | 18:57 |
| NobodyCam | hehehhe | 18:57 |
| lucasagomes | meeting? | 19:01 |
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| lucasagomes | alright I'm done for today | 19:57 |
| lucasagomes | have a good night everyone | 19:57 |
| devananda | g'night lucasagomes ! | 19:57 |
| devananda | see you tmw early :) | 19:57 |
| lucasagomes | see ya! :) | 19:57 |
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| NobodyCam | night lucas-dinner | 19:59 |
| matty_dubs | Adikos lucas-dinner | 19:59 |
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| matty_dubs | BTW, I've been dragged into some not-Ironic stuff the past few, and next few coming, days, so apologies for not being active | 20:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Wipe any metadata from a nodes disk https://review.openstack.org/93133 | 20:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add set_provision_state command https://review.openstack.org/89301 | 20:28 |
| rloo | hey, something was merged! ^^^ | 20:32 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 20:37 |
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| devananda | \o/ | 20:40 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: are you working 96902? | 20:42 |
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| mgagne | hi, how is ironic-master.tar.gz regenerated on http://tarballs.openstack.org/ironic/ ? is it a period task or is it a manual process? | 20:44 |
| devananda | mgagne: i believe that, like all openstack projects, it's automatic when ever a patch merges | 20:45 |
| mgagne | devananda: I tried finding the entry in zuul/layout.yaml but couldn't =( | 20:45 |
| mgagne | devananda: has code been merged recently? date is May 30 on tarball | 20:45 |
| devananda | mgagne: we've had no patcjhes land since may30 :( | 20:46 |
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| devananda | mgagne: so taht sounds current, unfortunately | 20:46 |
| mgagne | devananda: haha, I thought something was broken =) | 20:46 |
| devananda | yep | 20:46 |
| devananda | the gate | 20:46 |
| devananda | was broken all last week | 20:46 |
| mgagne | alright thanks | 20:46 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: yes. it should be rebased and mocked, i think | 20:47 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: unfortunately my change to add a check if ipmitool is present maens that it fails unit tests when ipmitool is NOT present | 20:47 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: so that needs to be mocked in unit tests | 20:47 |
| devananda | and it needs a new unit test anyway | 20:47 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: if you want to take over and write those tests, that's fine | 20:48 |
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| NobodyCam | I can try to get that going :) | 20:49 |
| Shrews | mgagne: that comes from here: https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml#L910-L913 | 20:49 |
| mgagne | Shrews: I thought pre-release and release where triggered by tags? | 20:50 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: it should be rebased on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90174/ -- which needs another +2 anyway, if you're so inclined | 20:51 |
| Shrews | mgagne: so, when a tag is pushed, that triggers the 'release' tarball, IIRC | 20:51 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96902/ updated and WIP'd | 20:52 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: all yours now | 20:52 |
| mgagne | Shrews: what about the master tarball? pre-release looks to not be triggered by commit alone: https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml#L114-L121 | 20:53 |
| Shrews | mgagne: but honestly, it's been so long, i forget all of the details of how all of that works. i know there can be separate tarballs built (one for each merge, and one for releases). | 20:53 |
| mgagne | Shrews: will ask infra then =) | 20:53 |
| Shrews | mgagne: always your best bet :) | 20:53 |
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| mgagne | Shrews: didn't have to ask, it's part of a zuul template: https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml#L250 | 20:55 |
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| Shrews | devananda: how about a "conductor" tag? | 20:57 |
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| jroll | devananda: if I was going to write a spec for a nova driver feature, that puts more data in instance_info, where would that belong? ironic-specs, nova-specs, both? | 20:59 |
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| devananda | jroll: both | 20:59 |
| devananda | Shrews: ack | 20:59 |
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| jroll | devananda: and just have the ironic virt driver listed as a dependency in my nova spec? | 21:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Update Nova driver's list_instance_uuids() https://review.openstack.org/98268 | 21:02 |
| devananda | jroll: that didn't make sense | 21:02 |
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| devananda | jroll: "ironic virt driver" is the thing you'd be changing in the nova spec | 21:03 |
| jroll | devananda: right, but that's not approved yet | 21:03 |
| jroll | devananda: so I would link to the virt driver spec as a dependency, yes? | 21:03 |
| matty_dubs | /win 50 | 21:03 |
| jroll | maybe that's a dumb question | 21:04 |
| jroll | idk | 21:04 |
| jroll | s/dumb/obvious/ | 21:04 |
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| devananda | jroll: oh - yes, gotcha | 21:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Driver interface's validate should return nothing https://review.openstack.org/97855 | 21:07 |
| NobodyCam | fyi devananda 90174 lgtm +a'd | 21:07 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: for 96902 you want to stick with version checking vs search --help for -N / -R | 21:09 |
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| NobodyCam | brb | 21:14 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: yes | 21:15 |
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| Shrews | devananda: added the 'conductor' tag to the wiki for us | 21:21 |
| devananda | Shrews: added to official list in LP | 21:23 |
| devananda | thanks | 21:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: This blueprint adds support for generating Swift Temporary URLs, which are required by the Ironic Python Agent. https://review.openstack.org/98904 | 21:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic-specs: Swift Temporary URLs Spec https://review.openstack.org/98904 | 21:28 |
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| mrda | Morning Ironic | 21:30 |
| NobodyCam | morning mrda | 21:31 |
| Shrews | morning mrda | 21:31 |
| devananda | mornin, mrda! | 21:31 |
| mrda | \o | 21:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Haering proposed a change to openstack/ironic-python-agent: Fix HardwareManager loading order bug https://review.openstack.org/98678 | 21:40 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: how or should we handle http://paste.openstack.org/show/mLm3dZYOa3zDtFhWOpTm/ | 21:46 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: :'( | 21:47 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: pin to version < 2 for now | 21:47 |
| devananda | because that's just broken | 21:48 |
| devananda | oh and file bugs with distros | 21:48 |
| devananda | having two packages taht install the same binary is bonkers | 21:48 |
| devananda | then again, a lot of packages do taht | 21:48 |
| mrda | devananda: +1 | 21:48 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: one more idea | 21:50 |
| devananda | if TIMING_SUPPORT or (TIMING_SUPPORT is None): | 21:50 |
| devananda | try: | 21:50 |
| devananda | # call ipmitool with -N -R | 21:50 |
| devananda | except error: | 21:51 |
| devananda | if error like "-N not supported": | 21:51 |
| devananda | TIMING_SUPPORT=False | 21:51 |
| devananda | # tryagain | 21:51 |
| devananda | that might be better | 21:51 |
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| adam_g | JoshNang, around? | 21:52 |
| JoshNang | adam_g: yup! what's up? | 21:54 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ya I think checking for option support is better | 21:55 |
| adam_g | JoshNang, hey! curious if you're still working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90233 | 21:56 |
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| JoshNang | adam_g: yup! i've got a patch to factor out the part that wasn't really a refactor that'll i'll put up shortly, and then it should be mergable (fingers crossed) | 21:56 |
| JoshNang | adam_g: sorry it has taken so long. got side tracked for awhile | 21:57 |
| adam_g | JoshNang, oh, okay. cool. ill wait till that is up before rebasing my dependent patch | 21:57 |
| JoshNang | adam_g: give me maybe half an hour? I'm finishing up addressing comments on another patch | 21:58 |
| adam_g | JoshNang, sure, no problem :) thanks! | 21:58 |
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| russell_h | agordeev: added a test here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98678/ | 22:10 |
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| NobodyCam | wb | 22:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Adding swift temp url support https://review.openstack.org/81391 | 22:32 |
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| NobodyCam | just fyi .me is starting to dislike ipmitool | 22:53 |
| devananda | heh | 23:04 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ipmitool needs a --dry-run type arg | 23:08 |
| devananda | hah | 23:09 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: what'cha trying to do? | 23:09 |
| NobodyCam | have a clean way to test for -N -R options | 23:09 |
| NobodyCam | with out having ipmitool try and connect | 23:09 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 23:09 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: right,that's why I suggested doing it in a try: block | 23:10 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: there's also a very large functional difference between these versions | 23:11 |
| devananda | <1.8.12 (without -N-R) retries a "chassis power status" packet 18 times | 23:11 |
| devananda | no option to tune that | 23:11 |
| devananda | >=1.8.12 retries 12 times, with options to tune it | 23:12 |
| NobodyCam | oh happy happy joy joy | 23:14 |
| NobodyCam | really :( sudo: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: command not found | 23:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Factoring out PXE and TFTP functions https://review.openstack.org/90233 | 23:21 |
| JoshNang | adam_g: ok that should be good. took a bit longer to deal with some rebasing | 23:21 |
| adam_g | JoshNang, nice. thanks! | 23:25 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: where? that's usually caused by something else | 23:30 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: see if it matches this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1321992 | 23:32 |
| NobodyCam | https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1326209 | 23:32 |
| * NobodyCam checks | 23:33 | |
| NobodyCam | devananda: not really | 23:33 |
| NobodyCam | the one I just linked it excatily it | 23:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Prevent property modification to nodes /w instance https://review.openstack.org/98921 | 23:33 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: what's the review where it happened? | 23:33 |
| NobodyCam | 93313 | 23:34 |
| NobodyCam | and and 97590 | 23:34 |
| NobodyCam | s/and and/and/ | 23:34 |
| devananda | http://logs.openstack.org/33/93133/61/check/check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic/6d713e0/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2014-06-09_22_30_13_352 | 23:36 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: it's a network failure. nothing to do with apache2ctl specifically | 23:36 |
| devananda | also http://logs.openstack.org/33/93133/61/check/check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic/6d713e0/console.html#_2014-06-09_22_26_19_103 | 23:36 |
| devananda | which matches another open bug | 23:36 |
| NobodyCam | ahh so I should then comment on the bug I linked | 23:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Josh Gachnang proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Allow noauth for Neutron https://review.openstack.org/98922 | 23:38 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1326754 is related. the failore on 93313 includes that error | 23:38 |
| devananda | but i think it's a larger network issue which crops up in devstack failing to fetch GPG sigs in general | 23:39 |
| NobodyCam | ack.. I've already started the rechecks if I need to again I will use this bug | 23:40 |
| devananda | thanks | 23:40 |
| adam_g | hoping https://review.openstack.org/98886 will fix that UCA GPG error | 23:40 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 23:41 |
| devananda | adam_g: should the following section L613,5 be moved inside that if block? | 23:43 |
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| adam_g | devananda, 'cp devstack-gate/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh ./safe-devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh'? i dont think so. that job should function fine on trusty once the slaves are upgraded | 23:45 |
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| devananda | adam_g: # prevent sshd from jumping to the ovs bridge on Precise instances. | 23:52 |
| devananda | that line | 23:53 |
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| devananda | *that section | 23:53 |
| adam_g | devananda, oh, no. that comment is misleading, i guess. if anything, that can probably be removed at this point | 23:53 |
| jroll | devananda: can Ironic today use the nova metadata service or anything? (I believe the answer is no) | 23:53 |
| devananda | jroll: ironic services don't have a need for reading from it. but ironic instances? absolutely. | 23:54 |
| devananda | * instances deployed by ironic | 23:54 |
| jroll | devananda: right, do those instances have any way to do so? or is that all up to the image? | 23:54 |
| devananda | adam_g: ah, ok then | 23:54 |
| jroll | (writing the configdrive spec) | 23:55 |
| devananda | jroll: how familiar are you with cloud-init? | 23:55 |
| jroll | fairly | 23:55 |
| jroll | I would guess you can point that at the metadata service? | 23:55 |
| jroll | we're using cloud-init with a configdrive, that's the extent of my familiarity | 23:56 |
| devananda | jroll: ack. are you familiar with the metadata api then? | 23:56 |
| jroll | no, not really | 23:56 |
| jroll | s/really/at all/ | 23:57 |
| devananda | jroll: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/metadata-service.html | 23:57 |
| jroll | ok, right, so same format as configdrive | 23:57 |
| devananda | jroll: so your question, can ironic instances use that -- ironic itself is agnostic there. | 23:58 |
| devananda | jroll: if the nova metadata service is running, networking is configured properly, etc, such that the instance can issue requests to the metadata service, then yes, the instance can use it | 23:58 |
| jroll | devananda: right, I wasn't sure if you could give cloud-init a URL, or if some other software had to run, or what | 23:59 |
| devananda | jroll: and if the image includes cloud-init appropriately, then it should parameterize itself on first boot accordingly. and this is tested in the gate today | 23:59 |
| devananda | ah | 23:59 |
| jroll | that answers my question. thanks! | 23:59 |
| devananda | np! | 23:59 |
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