Tuesday, 2014-02-25

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NobodyCamabout to call it a day00:58
NobodyCamdevananda: did you have a list of bugs I could add to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicReviewDay00:59
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NobodyCamfor the jam?00:59
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Simplify locking around acquiring Node resources  https://review.openstack.org/7197400:59
NobodyCamdevananda: ^^^^^ w00t00:59
devanandasweet01:00
devanandai still need to go through the open reviews list :-/01:01
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devanandaagordeev's devstack patch is still not quite happy01:01
NobodyCammax may not make the jam tomorrow but he said he would look over the list if there any thing youd like his eye on please add to the ether pad for him01:01
lifelessdevananda: ok so I'm back; had a firedrill this morning01:02
lifelessdevananda: where did we get to ?01:02
NobodyCamfiredrill? at home office or did you go into the a real office?01:02
NobodyCamlol01:03
NobodyCam:)01:03
lifelessNobodyCam: ci overcloud was dead01:03
lifelessso we had no CI01:03
NobodyCamahh :) that sounds like a real fire, and a drill :O01:04
NobodyCamgah ... /me has had worst day typing today.01:05
NobodyCamahh :) that sounds like a real fire, and NOT a drill :O01:05
NobodyCam:-p01:05
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devanandaNobodyCam: ack, will do02:05
devanandalifeless: i was articulating myself poorly. you were pointing at a layer violation. lets continue tomorrow02:07
lifelessdevananda: ok02:07
devanandalifeless: side question - do you think anyone on the tripleo team will have time this week or next to cover the remainint distance of getting ironic into devtest / incubator?02:08
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lifelessdevananda: I'm not sure what that distance is, so its a hard question to answer.02:10
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lifelessdevananda: did you have specific bits you need help on ?02:10
lifelessI think sprinting on that next week would be a grand idea02:10
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devanandalifeless: afaik, there's not much distance left02:11
devanandalifeless: the challenge has been the combination of two factors: other continual obligations on myself and NobodyCam, and the continuing changes to tripleo-incubator02:12
devanandaso we have been pretty slow to post new revs / finish the work02:12
devanandaso yes, sprinting next week on that would be grand02:13
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Do not use CONF as a default parameter value  https://review.openstack.org/7588302:22
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devanandadavidlenwell: this was posted this morning: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75894/02:41
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openstackgerritRuby Loo proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Implement API to get driver properties  https://review.openstack.org/7300502:45
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Sync Oslo service module to Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/7402502:50
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openstackgerrityangxurong proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix params order in assertEqual  https://review.openstack.org/7607702:59
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Removes use of timeutils.set_time_override  https://review.openstack.org/6743203:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Improve help strings  https://review.openstack.org/7482203:34
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Get rid object model `dict` methods part 4  https://review.openstack.org/6425104:03
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openstackgerritMichael Davies proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Prevent GET /v1/nodes returning maintenance field  https://review.openstack.org/7609405:48
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/7119206:07
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/7556506:31
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openstackgerritHaomeng,Wang proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Sync Oslo rpc module to Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/7397106:44
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openstackgerritlokesh s proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Ironic deployment docs  https://review.openstack.org/7428206:51
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openstackgerritSun Jing proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Support serial console access  https://review.openstack.org/6410007:10
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openstackgerritYongli He proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Remove extraneous vim configuration comments for ironic  https://review.openstack.org/7316008:50
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romchegMorning all09:07
Haomengromcheg: morning:)09:09
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agordeevromcheg and Haomeng, morning!09:11
Haomengagordeev: morning:)09:11
openstackgerritYuriy Zveryanskyy proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Exclude nodes in DEPLOYWAIT state from _sync_power_states  https://review.openstack.org/7590409:12
openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Sync common config module from Oslo  https://review.openstack.org/7476009:14
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yuriyzmorning Ironic09:56
romchegMorning yuriyz agordeev Haomeng! How are you guys?09:57
yuriyzmorning romcheg09:59
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yuriyzlucasagomes, romcheg please look at https://review.openstack.org/74760 this fix frequent gates tests falling10:04
lucasagomesyuriyz, romcheg morning folks!10:05
lucasagomesyuriyz, will do10:05
romchegMorning lucasagomes!10:05
yuriyzmorning lucasagomes10:05
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max_loburmorning All10:07
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openstackgerritRamakrishnan G proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add IloDriver for HP Proliant Servers  https://review.openstack.org/7614410:12
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lucasagomeserr my connection dropped10:13
lucasagomesmax_lobur, morning10:13
lucasagomesyuriyz, +2'd10:13
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romcheglucasagomes: I'm about to +2 that as well10:18
lucasagomesromcheg, yeah it's a sync, and that problem with the conf file is pretty annoying10:19
romchegAm I eligible to +A or should we wait for Devananda?10:19
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Sync Oslo gettextutils  module to Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/7462910:19
lucasagomesromcheg, you are! Being core means that we trust ur reviews and all10:20
lucasagomesno problem approving it10:20
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romcheglucasagomes: First +A is always scaring I guess :)10:24
lucasagomesromcheg, yeah10:24
lucasagomesthat's true :)10:24
lucasagomesbut think that we have to keep things moving10:24
lucasagomesand in the worst case scenario we can revert a change10:24
romcheglucasagomes: makes sense10:25
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romcheglucasagomes: Isn't this the kind of patch that should have got a -2 from Deva?10:47
romchegIf not, I can +2 it10:47
romcheghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/74731/310:47
romchegI'm trying to check the queue before the review jam today10:47
openstackgerrityangxurong proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix params order in assertEqual  https://review.openstack.org/7607710:48
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Sync common config module from Oslo  https://review.openstack.org/7476010:49
* lucasagomes looks10:49
lucasagomesromcheg, it's grand10:50
lucasagomesI think the idea of the -2 is when it's a big patch or a series10:50
lucasagomescause that takes time to review10:50
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lucasagomesthis patch is fine :) 1 min review10:50
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lucasagomesromcheg, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73896/  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74465/ here are some patch you can take a look and use ur core power to press the final button if u wish :D10:54
romcheg*looks*10:54
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Haomenglucasagomes: ping11:20
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lucasagomesHaomeng, pong11:21
Haomenglucasagomes: morning:)11:22
Haomenglucasagomes: I am trying to fix this i3 bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1271317, but still has no solution, do you have any ideas?11:22
* lucasagomes looks11:23
Haomenglucasagomes: looks it is assigned by IMichael Davies  an hour ago:)11:23
Haomenglucasagomes: so let me check with him directly:)11:24
lucasagomeshmmm, so one solution would be to create a hook and check for the "application/xml" but I don't think it would be the best11:24
lucasagomesI think we can go to the #wsme channel11:24
lucasagomesand ask the guys if there's a better one to do it11:24
lucasagomesHaomeng, ack11:24
Haomenglucasagomes: :)11:24
Haomenglucasagomes: any way thanks:)11:24
lucasagomesnp11:24
Haomenglucasagomes: :)11:26
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lucasagomesdhellmann, ping re disabling XML support in WSME11:27
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Remove shebang lines from code  https://review.openstack.org/7473112:04
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix race condition when deleting a node  https://review.openstack.org/7617812:31
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: NodeLocked returns 503 error status  https://review.openstack.org/7446512:41
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openstackgerritYuriy Zveryanskyy proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Exclude nodes in DEPLOYWAIT state from _sync_power_states  https://review.openstack.org/7590413:46
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openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/ironic: WIP: sync oslo.db code  https://review.openstack.org/7620413:52
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Use six.StringIO/BytesIO instead of StringIO.StringIO  https://review.openstack.org/7389614:16
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openstackgerritYuriy Zveryanskyy proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add provision_updated_at field to nodes table  https://review.openstack.org/7478114:26
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openstackgerritYuriy Zveryanskyy proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add timeout for waiting callback from deploy ramdisk  https://review.openstack.org/7239514:29
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openstackgerritRuby Loo proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Implement API to get driver properties  https://review.openstack.org/7300514:38
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romchegMOrning NobodyCam15:11
NobodyCamGood morning romcheg :)15:12
romchegHow are you?15:12
romchegPlease remind me when are we going to start our review jam?15:12
NobodyCamJust awaking up :-p. but good so far :)15:12
NobodyCamprob 8:00 am pst... so 45 minutes15:12
romchegcool15:13
NobodyCamhey I wanted to setup a call with you and a couple of the devs who want to help with testing.15:14
NobodyCamwhen is good for you, they are in India so they are closer to your TZ15:15
NobodyCamwe chatted awhile ago about it15:15
NobodyCamman been reading http://www.kyivpost.com/15:16
NobodyCamhope all is goting okay for you and everyone there :)15:16
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openstackgerritMikhail Durnosvistov proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Get rid object model `dict` methods part 3  https://review.openstack.org/6410815:21
openstackgerritMikhail Durnosvistov proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Get rid object model `dict` methods part 1  https://review.openstack.org/6002515:21
openstackgerritMikhail Durnosvistov proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Get rid object model `dict` methods part 2  https://review.openstack.org/6233115:21
openstackgerritMikhail Durnosvistov proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Get rid object model `dict` methods part 5  https://review.openstack.org/6427815:21
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lucasagomesmorning NobodyCam15:35
NobodyCammorning lucasagomes :)15:35
lucasagomes:)15:35
NobodyCamlucasagomes: fyi I'm hacking the volume drive atm15:36
lucasagomesNobodyCam, ack15:36
NobodyCambrb15:37
openstackgerritRuby Loo proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Unused 'pxe_key_data' & 'pxe_instance_name' info  https://review.openstack.org/7509815:47
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NobodyCamGood morning Ironic15:59
NobodyCamlucasagomes: max_lobur romcheg devananda you up and about?16:00
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lucasagomesNobodyCam, I'm up16:01
max_loburmorning Folks16:01
NobodyCamhey hey max_lobur you did make it16:02
max_lobursorry, I have a spare call today so I won't be on the jam :/16:02
NobodyCamahh see I was right :)16:02
NobodyCammax_lobur: NP16:02
max_loburwhat I did? :)16:02
NobodyCamjust a quick question. did you look over any of items onthe etherpad?16:03
max_loburyep, looked yesterday, left some comments, also added a few easy patches16:03
max_loburdid not look today yet16:03
NobodyCamhehhee all good!16:03
max_loburprobably there are a few new revs and also some of those easy patches may be already merged16:04
NobodyCam:)16:04
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devanandagood morning, all16:05
NobodyCamgood morning devananda16:05
NobodyCamjam in 20 minutes... give everyone time to get coffe and take care of morning tasks?16:08
devanandaNobodyCam: lemme get the coffee started, then dial me in when ever you are ready :)16:08
NobodyCam:-p16:08
NobodyCamdevananda: 8:30 ok... still waiting for romchg16:08
NobodyCamromcheg even16:09
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romchegArgh! My wifi failed. Did we start?16:10
NobodyCamlol not yet16:10
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-ironicclient: Remove shebang lines from code  https://review.openstack.org/7464816:10
NobodyCamromcheg: lets say 8:3016:11
romchegNobodyCam: Ok, no problem16:11
NobodyCamgives everyone  few minutes16:11
NobodyCam:)16:11
romchegI have enough cider to wait :)16:11
NobodyCamummmm Cider..... /me has been hooked on cider of late16:12
devanandammm, cider! since I cant drink beer any more, cider++16:14
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NobodyCamdevananda: no beer? :(16:15
romcheg*is trying to set up devstack*16:15
devanandaNobodyCam: gluten ...16:15
NobodyCamahh16:15
NobodyCam:(16:16
NobodyCameasy one for lucasagomes & romcheg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75121/16:18
lucasagomesheh won't approve my own patch :)16:18
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romcheg3 +2s :)16:18
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NobodyCamromcheg: did you +a?16:30
romchegNobodyCam: not yet16:31
romchegNobodyCam: Looks like devananda did16:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-ironicclient: Filtering nodes by maintenance mode  https://review.openstack.org/7512116:34
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NobodyCamotp sorry :(16:36
NobodyCamI will be call core on google16:39
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devanandalucasagomes: http://www.linuxtag.org/2014/16:46
devanandadavidlenwell: get my message re: db sync patch?16:47
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NobodyCamhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/74909/16:48
NobodyCammorning davidlenwell16:48
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Do not delete a Node which is not powered off  https://review.openstack.org/7625816:48
devanandaNobodyCam: you dropped16:50
NobodyCamoh16:51
NobodyCamhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/75904/16:55
agordeevgood morning, Ironic16:55
NobodyCamgood morning agordeev16:55
devanandahttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/keep-powered-off-nodes-off17:00
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jrolldevananda: I'd like to be able to override that behavior somehow17:03
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devanandajroll: what about a CONF option to toggle the source-of-truth17:05
devanandaeg, sync_or_set_node_power_state=(sync|set)17:05
devanandaif sync: update db17:05
devanandaif set: force node to state that is in the db17:05
jrollI'm less concerned about who the source of truth is, and more concerned about being able to leave those servers on17:06
jrollthat might work, if I'm understanding it correctly17:06
jrollor if I can override it in the deploy driver, that's fine17:07
devanandajroll: the issue is when db state != actual hardware state17:07
devanandathat's clearly not a good thing, because the API will only show the DB state17:08
devananda*only show the power staet recorded in the DB17:08
jrollohhh, I was looking at the blueprint, not the bug17:08
devanandajroll: so the question is, when the state-in-DB != staet-of-hardware, do we update the DB? or do we set the hardware state17:08
jrollright17:08
devanandaheh. yea, they relate :)17:08
jrollright, but different goals17:09
jroll:)17:09
devanandaso, CONF option good enough?17:09
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jrollyeah, I think so17:10
jrollwhat lifeless said on that issue makes sense to me17:10
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devanandait's too early for me to think of a good option name, lol17:11
jrollheh, no worries17:11
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lucasagomesNobodyCam, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72998/9/ironic/conductor/manager.py17:21
lucasagomes56217:21
NobodyCamhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicReviewDay17:24
davidlenwelldevananda: are you reffereing to the comment on the blue print?17:25
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devanandadavidlenwell: romcheg posted a patch starting work on it17:25
devanandahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/75894/17:25
davidlenwelllovely .. So I can help review that17:25
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romchegdavidlenwell: I would really appreciate that17:26
devanandadavidlenwell: also, romcheg is here today so you two might want to coordinate on that :)17:26
davidlenwellabsolutely17:26
davidlenwellreviewing the patch now17:26
romchegUntil I didn't drink too much cider :D17:26
davidlenwellromcheg: does it work ?  or is it sitll a work in progress?17:26
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Clarify and fix the dev-quickstart doc some more  https://review.openstack.org/7490917:27
davidlenwelldevananda: in other news I should have my cpu's this afternoon .. so I'll be able to test console stuff17:27
romchegdavidlenwell: That is a WIP. That is one of the revisions of the patch I have created. I would appreciate if you check the approach17:27
davidlenwellsure17:27
davidlenwellgive me a few and I'll review and leave comments17:28
romchegdavidlenwell: If you guys like it I will port the rest of the migration script according with it17:28
davidlenwellromcheg: so far the one thing that stands out is that you seem to have coppied the nove bm models into your work rather than importing them form nova.. I suppose that insures that you have them on the machine that is running the migration... but for some reason it still bugs me to copy code17:29
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romchegOne of the implementations I was working on actually imported objects from Nova17:30
davidlenwellromcheg: that is how I was trying to do it17:30
davidlenwellI'll read this a little closer .. stand  by.. I might be able to let that go17:30
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romchegdavidlenwell: can we postpone that for about an hour please?17:31
davidlenwellromcheg: absolutely17:31
romchegWe are running review jam right now17:31
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romchegThanks17:31
romchegThen we will figure everything out17:31
davidlenwellromcheg: review jam .. now thats my jam17:31
davidlenwellmorning NobodyCam17:32
romcheghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/7509817:33
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Exclude nodes in DEPLOYWAIT state from _sync_power_states  https://review.openstack.org/7590417:39
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Don't raise MySQL 2013 'Lost connection' errors  https://review.openstack.org/7379417:39
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digambarHi Stackers17:42
digambargetting error while running below command17:43
devanandaDB issue: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74781/3/ironic/db/sqlalchemy/api.py17:43
digambarhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/69489/17:43
devanandawe should not be trusting local clocks that much ....17:44
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digambarHi Devananda, please look this error17:45
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devanandadigambar: you have either misconfigured the node's SSH power driver, or SSH is not working properly17:49
digambarlet me paste here whole output17:49
digambarhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/69490/17:49
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openstackgerritMikhail Durnosvistov proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Old value 'updated_at' field returned after update  https://review.openstack.org/7543017:55
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add option to sync node power state from DB  https://review.openstack.org/7629318:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Unused 'pxe_key_data' & 'pxe_instance_name' info  https://review.openstack.org/7509818:07
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add option to sync node power state from DB  https://review.openstack.org/7629318:09
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Add provision_updated_at field to nodes table  https://review.openstack.org/7478118:17
devanandaromcheg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60025/ -- the patch with a hidden bug fix :)18:20
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romchegmdurnosvistov: ^^]18:24
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devananda2014-02-25 10:38:05.724 28568 WARNING wsme.api [-] Client-side error: '/maintenance' is an internal attribute and can not be updated18:38
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Use MB instead of GB for the root part size  https://review.openstack.org/7546418:38
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lifelessdevananda: jroll: so jroll wants to leave *any* server that gets powered on out of band on?18:40
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romcheghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/76178/18:41
devanandayuriyz: your patch series to make some attrs readonly (73281 -> 73593) should have a third follow-on patch to remove teh internal_attrs() methods from the node, chassis, port, etc, API modules18:42
devanandayuriyz: other than NobodyCam's nit (maintenance should NOT be readonly), I think the patches are good18:42
devanandalifeless: IIUC, yes. he did not want ironic to enforce the power state, just to expose it18:42
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Use MB instead of GB for the root part size  https://review.openstack.org/7546418:43
devanandalifeless: my patch to implement bp:keep-powered-off-nodes-off is above (needs unit tests but functionally complete). default is the behavior you expect (force nodes to the state recorded in the DB)18:43
devanandayuriyz: i'm goign to fix up that nit and rebase your patch sets18:45
lifelessdevananda: cool; I guess I'm wondering if maintenance == do not enforce / do not monitor will meet his needs18:45
devanandayuriyz: so we can land it today18:45
lifelessdevananda: rather than an option18:45
lifelesshis/her - oops :P18:45
devanandajroll: ^ ?18:46
k4n0devananda: Hi there18:46
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NobodyCamhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/74063/2/ironic/conductor/manager.py18:47
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Sync Oslo rpc module to Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/7397118:48
devanandak4n0: hi!18:48
NobodyCamThank you everyone!18:52
NobodyCambrb..18:52
lucasagomesThanks guys!18:52
lucasagomeshave a g'night romcheg devananda NobodyCam18:52
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Get rid object model `dict` methods part 4  https://review.openstack.org/6425119:02
jrolllifeless: yes, we want to idle all of our servers19:02
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jrollI want to control it with ironic19:03
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jrolle.g. I'll still need to control power, but when I tear down a node I'm going to reboot it into a different image, not power it off19:03
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mdurnosvistov_ltdevananda: ping19:04
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jrolllifeless: I don't think "maintenance" mode will work for us - we'll be using maintenance status for actual maintenance and would want some sort of "decom" state for unused servers. life cycle is inactive -> deploying -> active -> decom -> inactive. or something like that19:05
jrolldevananda: ^19:05
devanandamdurnosvistov_lt: please see comments on patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60025/19:05
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lifelessjroll: so in what stages do you want power status not enforced?19:05
mdurnosvistov_ltdevananda: I saw =) In the first patch bug manifested if changes were  in objects https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60025/25/ironic/objects/chassis.py https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60025/25/ironic/objects/conductor.py https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60025/25/ironic/objects/node.py https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60025/25/ironic/objects/port.py19:06
mdurnosvistov_ltjust don't split on another patch19:06
jrolllifeless: it's more like, don't have ironic power off the node just because it's not in use by a "customer", for whatever definition of customer19:07
devanandajroll: so you can ask ironic to power a node on, even without provisioning it19:08
lifelessjroll: if a customer has the machine deployed19:08
lifelessjroll: and they ask nova to turn the machine off19:08
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lifelessjroll: do you want ironic to turn the machine off ?19:08
jrolllifeless: yes19:08
lifelessjroll: and if a dc tech bumps the power button19:08
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lifelessjroll: should ironic subsequently power it back off or leave the customers machine unexectedly running?19:08
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jrollright, I guess I'm not sure there. I would probably want ironic to put it back in the state it should be in19:10
jrollI *think*19:10
romchegdavidlenwell: aroung?19:10
lifelessjroll: right.19:11
jrollso it sounds like we're on the same page19:11
lifelessjroll: so, I think you need to be very specific about when you want the machines floating on19:11
lifelessjroll: if its just 'we want them on all the time except when deployed by a customer (and then honour the customers request)'19:11
lifelessjroll: then I would say write a little script to query undeployed machines and ask Ironic to power them up19:12
jrolllifeless: right19:12
jrolllifeless: we're writing our own driver19:12
* NobodyCam is back19:12
lifelessjroll: well it doesn't need to be a driver, this can easily live outside the core19:12
lifelessjroll: and doesn't require a conf option at all19:12
lifelessjroll: AFAICT19:12
jrolllifeless: the blueprint I was reading made it sound like ironic would automatically power off any undeployed machines19:12
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jrolllifeless: sure19:13
lifelessjroll: it will assert the recorded state19:13
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lifelessjroll: which is a little different :)19:13
jrollyeah :)19:13
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Do not allow POST ports and chassis internal attributes  https://review.openstack.org/7359319:14
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Do not allow POST node's internal attributes  https://review.openstack.org/7328119:14
jrollI think I was mistaken on the goal there. I think we'll be ok19:14
jrollif not, we'll submit blueprints/patches as needed19:15
jrolllifeless: ^19:15
lifelessjroll: cool19:17
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rameshg87Good morning devananda:19:20
devanandarameshg87: good morning19:24
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rameshg87devananda: i just had a question regarding one of your comment in ilo driver review19:37
openstackgerritRuby Loo proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add driver-properties command  https://review.openstack.org/7633819:37
* devananda fixes up one of lucas' patches19:38
rameshg87this is related to the polling mechanism for status completion in the ilo-virtual-media deploy module19:38
rameshg87https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73787/6/ironic/drivers/modules/ilo_deploy.py19:38
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix race condition when deleting a node  https://review.openstack.org/7617819:39
rameshg87i think the major concern now is that we are polling for the status completion of deploy in the same rpc thread that triggered the deploy19:40
rameshg87so if we create a new thread, and poll for status completion in that thread; and let deploy continue, will that approach be fine ?19:40
devanandarameshg87: nope19:41
devanandarameshg87: think how this will perform at very large scale19:41
devanandarameshg87: and how it will behave when a conductor fails while waiting for the deploy to finish.19:41
rameshg87hmm..okay...so all these factors suggest we go for a callback mechanism probably using a vendor passthru in the driver19:43
devanandarameshg87: that is how the PXE driver works19:43
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devanandarameshg87: there is an alternative approach, but i don't think it is as good at scale -- we could add a periodic task that initiates the polling19:44
devanandasimilar to _sync_power_state()19:44
devanandathat will be serialized, though, so again, not good at scale19:45
devanandacallback is the best19:45
rameshg87okay. so for callback we making a callback we will need to token19:45
rameshg87one thing the concerns us is, unlike deploy() in pxe, the virtual media deploy is completely done at the baremetal node19:46
rameshg87that means, writing the image to the disk is performed at the baremetal node itself (the diskimage-builder changes for this are underway)19:46
devanandarameshg87: you are passing some unique information in via the "floppy" disk already, yes?19:47
rameshg87devananda: currently the status completion is passed through the virtual floppy from the baremetal node to the conductor node. the baremetal node is supposed to write the status into a file on the attached virtual floppy19:48
devanandarameshg87: that (deploy is completely done at the baremetal node) is great! We've wanted to add that for a while -- can you link the diskimagebuilder changes?19:48
devanandarameshg87: it would be better to issue an HTTP POST back to ironic-api, so there wouldn't be a need to keep re-reading the floppy drive19:49
rameshg87devananda: we are making the changes, we are planning to add a new element deploy-ironic-virtual-media which will contain a different init.d script than deploy-ironic19:49
devanandarameshg87: but to do that, you'll need to pass a token securely to the deploy ramdisk. So, can the ironic-conductor write to that floppy before the deploy starts?19:49
rameshg87devananda: we thought about HTTP post back to ironic by the conductor writing to that floppy19:49
rameshg87devananda: but the concern that we had regarding the token expiration19:50
rameshg87devananda: from the time at which token is written to the floppy to the time when the HTTP POST back is made after deploy completion, there could be bigger time gap (the time it takes to write the image to the disk)19:50
rameshg87devananda: so we were wondering what if the token would expire in that timeframe19:51
rameshg87devananda: if it happens, the baremetal node wouldn't be able to make the HTTP post back19:51
rameshg87devananda: pxe seems to have a lesser duration because pxe makes the call before writing the image starts19:52
rameshg87am i correct ?19:52
devanandarameshg87: you are correct that PXE makes the POST back after power on, and before image is written19:53
NobodyCamdevananda: quick question on friday we changed 'stats': in _node_resource on the nova driver from  'stats': nodes_extra_specs to  'stats': jsonutils.dumps(nodes_extra_specs)... this broke some of the test(which may be wrong) question is do you recall why we made the change?19:54
devanandarameshg87: keystone token expiration can be set by the cloud operator19:54
devanandarameshg87: what time do you see in testing the ilo deploy driver? I would expect the image transfer time to be very short -- a few minutes at most, and probably less than one minute19:55
rameshg87devananda: i am not sure about the exact time, but yes it will be few minutes at most19:56
devanandaNobodyCam: yes. the nova db was failing to write the node's data because it was getting an object instead of a string19:57
devanandaNobodyCam: so we need to convert that object (a dict) into a string (json'ify)19:57
devanandalifeless: IIRC you guys have run into some keystone token expiry issues, so you may be able to address rameshg87's concern above19:58
lifelessEDAYOFMEETINGS can you summarise please19:59
devanandalifeless: tl;dr - I'm suggesting that iLO deploy driver rely on a POST back with a keystone token that might be a few minutes old. worst case, let's say it's an hour old19:59
devanandayep :)19:59
devanandalifeless: think that'll cause a problem?19:59
rameshg87lifeless: its like this: we let the conductor pass the token to baremetal node via floppy, baremetal node writes the image to the disk and then baremetal node makes an api call after writing the image to disk19:59
lifelessoh right20:00
lifelessso you don't want a token for that really20:00
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lifelessbecause tokens may be stored in memcache where there is no guarantee that they will be usable at all20:00
lifelessthere's a thing heat does20:00
lifelessto get long term signed urls20:00
lifelessyou should do that20:00
devanandaahhh, thanks20:00
lifelessneeds the v3 keystone API20:01
devanandawhich Ironic does not support20:01
devanandayet20:01
rameshg87so regular tokens can expire in that timeframe "which it takes to reboot the node once and write the image to the disk"20:02
rameshg87am i correct ?20:02
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devanandarameshg87: the issue that lifeless is raising is not about expiration, which can be controlled by a setting in keystone, but by failure of the token caching20:05
devanandarameshg87: if, during the time a deploy is running, the memcached service which keystone is using to cache tokens were to experience a failure/be restarted/etc, it would lose the existing tokens even though they had not yet reached the expiration time20:05
lifelessor an admin going 'OMG we've got 150G of tokens -> truncate table tokens;'20:06
rameshg87devananda: okay, now i get it20:06
lifeless(which we've had to do)20:06
devanandalifeless: well, that's not memcache -- that's mysql. and that table should be trimmed regularly anyway20:06
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lifelessdevananda: should be20:07
NobodyCambrb ... quick walkies20:07
rameshg87devananda: lifeless: this question might be stupid, so is there any other way to contact ironic without a token ?20:08
devanandarameshg87: with username & password20:09
devanandarameshg87: you need to authenticate withthe API in some way20:09
rameshg87ah okay ..20:09
lifelessrameshg87: signed url as heat does.20:09
lifelessrameshg87: which I said above.20:09
lifelesssome assembly required.d20:09
devanandalifeless: does ironic need to implement keystone v3 for said urls to work, though?20:10
lifelessdevananda: yes, v2 is deprecated20:11
lifelessok, bbs20:11
rameshg87devananda: lifeless: okay. just one question, so does pxe driver also face the same problem now ?20:11
devanandarameshg87: yep20:12
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rameshg87but the time duration is very small i guess20:12
rameshg87time it takes to power cycle and load kernel/ramdisk on the baremteal node20:12
devanandaright20:12
devanandaso ~5 minutes20:12
rameshg87okay20:13
devanandaalso, the impact of this is fairly minimal IMO -- worst case is node sits in DEPLOYWAIT state until a timeout occurs, then the deploy fails, and user must retry20:13
devanandait is not ideal, and there's a better way (signed URLs)20:13
devanandabut we won't be able to use taht until ironic implements suport for keysstone v3 in Juno20:14
rameshg87devananda: okay20:14
rameshg87devananda: i can check the timings for deploy, so if the order of time taken from the generation of token file to triggering of HTTP call back in ilo deploy dirver is similar to that of pxe20:15
rameshg87will it be acceptable in i3 ?20:15
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devanandarameshg87: i can't promise what will land this week. third party drivers are a lower priority than core functinoality and testing20:17
davidlenwellromcheg: Im back now20:17
rameshg87devananda: okay20:18
rameshg87devananda: lifeless: thanks for your thoughts. we will consider the alternatives and get back20:22
davidlenwellromcheg: I was putting together servers.. didn't look at irc for a few20:25
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openstackgerritRamakrishnan G proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add IloPower module for IloDriver  https://review.openstack.org/7635220:28
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix race condition when deleting a node  https://review.openstack.org/7617820:31
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devanandaNobodyCam: romcheg: another good one to review, if you guys are around ^20:33
lifelessdevananda: ok so layering and nova, go20:34
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devanandalifeless: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-nova-layercake20:36
NobodyCamdevananda: +2 with comment asking lucas to bless with +120:41
devanandalifeless: ok. thoughts?20:42
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romchegdavidlenwell: I'm back as well20:54
openstackgerritRamakrishnan G proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add IloDriver for HP Proliant Servers  https://review.openstack.org/7614420:54
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romchegdavidlenwell: Let's have a chat tomorrow. It's 11PM now so I have to go21:00
romchegdavidlenwell: As soon as you are available tomorrow, please poke me and I will be available to chat with you.21:01
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lifelessdevananda: thoughts there; sorry, meeting multiplexing going on21:03
devanandalifeless: ack21:03
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mrdamorning all21:05
openstackgerritRamakrishnan G proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add IloPower module for IloDriver  https://review.openstack.org/7635221:05
NobodyCammorning mrda21:08
NobodyCammorning davidlenwell :)21:08
devanandag'morning, mrda21:08
NobodyCamany ever encounter "DuplicateOptError: duplicate option: rpc_backend" running nova tests?21:12
NobodyCamnova driver isn't doing anything with rpc_backend...21:14
davidlenwellromcheg:  I'll be up early tomorrow so we should have more overlap.. I'm all yours the first few hours of my day21:20
romchegdavidlenwell: Please poke me as soon as you're available.21:21
romchegThanks21:21
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