Friday, 2013-12-20

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lifelessdevananda: hi, possibly, long day already; tl;dr on the scrollback?03:00
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/6192006:00
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GheRiveromorning all07:37
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Convert trycmd() to oslo's processutils  https://review.openstack.org/6170909:33
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Move and rename ValidTypes  https://review.openstack.org/6267510:41
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Move and rename ValidTypes  https://review.openstack.org/6267510:44
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Sync base, exceptions and strutils from Oslo  https://review.openstack.org/6052811:31
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openstackgerritMikhail Durnosvistov proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Rid of specific `dict` methods in object model  https://review.openstack.org/6002512:34
openstackgerritMikhail Durnosvistov proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Get rid object model specific `dict` methods 1  https://review.openstack.org/6233112:34
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lucasagomesromcheg, ping14:04
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romcheglucasagomes: pong14:40
lucasagomesromcheg, hey how r u?14:40
romcheglucasagomes: Got a cold, so trying to work from home14:41
romchegand you?14:41
lucasagomesromcheg, :) I see, hope u get better soon mate14:41
lucasagomesromcheg, all good here, flying to brazil tomorrow morning (still have to pack all my stuff)14:41
lucasagomesromcheg, lemme ask, did you start taking a look at the deployment ramdisk? As it has to do with the abortion of a deployment I was thinking about giving thought14:42
romchegHave a nice flight!14:43
lucasagomesgiving it a thought*14:43
romcheglucasagomes: currently I'm working on migration path from Nova14:44
romcheglucasagomes: AFAIR I was responsible for the utility ramdisk.14:44
lucasagomesromcheg, right, would you mind if I start planning/working a bit on the utility ramdisk thing?14:44
lucasagomesromcheg, yes it's assigned to u14:45
romcheglucasagomes: yuriyz started thinking on the deployment one14:45
lucasagomesah great14:45
lucasagomesyea I was thinking more about the plumbing14:45
lucasagomeshow it's going to talk to the ironic api14:45
lucasagomesetc14:45
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NobodyCamgood morning Ironic says the man with no coffee ...(yet)15:05
NobodyCamand TGIF!!!!!15:05
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max_loburmorning Ironic! :)15:07
NobodyCammorning max_lobur15:08
lucasagomesmorning NobodyCam max_lobur15:17
lucasagomes:D15:17
NobodyCammorning lucasagomes15:20
NobodyCamare you not on vacation?15:20
lucasagomesNobodyCam, not yet, today's my last day15:20
lucasagomesand then I will be back at 2 of january15:20
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NobodyCam:)15:21
lucasagomesNobodyCam, you'll be off for xmas/new years as well?15:22
NobodyCamI'll prob be around (ish)15:22
NobodyCamI'm gone 28th thru the 1st15:23
devanandag'morning, all15:23
lucasagomesdevananda, morning15:23
lucasagomesNobodyCam, ah nice15:23
NobodyCammorning devananda15:23
devanandalifeless: tl;dr - cinder volume driver for ironic. for iSCSI, needs a firstboot hook. for iSCSI late attach, I think it needs an os-refresh-config hook, and was looking for your opinion15:25
devanandaromcheg, agordeev, vkozhukalov - ping re testing. I talked with clarkb & mtaylor yesterday. have some slightly new info15:25
devanandaromcheg: on the utiilty ramdisk, we don't need that for Icehouse15:27
NobodyCamlucasagomes: you going to start the hangout?15:27
lucasagomesNobodyCam, okie dokie!15:27
devanandaromcheg: as for the the nova-baremetal -> ironic DB migration, we do need that, but we can work on that after i-3 milestone. it just needs to be available around the time of the release15:28
romchegdevananda: thanks for clarifying15:30
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NobodyCamlucasagomes: http://paste.openstack.org/show/s3RpsMVCgoKhvcUUfa8L/15:40
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devanandaromcheg: have a few to talk about integration testing?15:42
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NobodyCamoh lucasagomes15:51
lucasagomesNobodyCam, hey15:51
NobodyCamquestion15:51
lucasagomesshoot15:51
NobodyCamon the client validate. how had would it be to add a --detail type thing that would list the reason it failed15:52
NobodyCamie this or that field is missing15:52
lucasagomesNobodyCam, right, we could change a bit the structure of the dict returned to include two fields per driver15:53
lucasagomesresult reason15:53
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NobodyCamyea ... right now you have look in the conductor log to get that info15:53
lucasagomesI saw devananda comments bout the ssh validation, def it's would be better to return the reason instead of just log it15:53
lucasagomesNobodyCam, +115:54
NobodyCam:)15:54
lucasagomesnot a big change, can work in a quick patch for that15:54
NobodyCamfft forthe holiday15:54
NobodyCamoh sweet :)15:54
lucasagomesNobodyCam, will need some change on the CLI to return the reason as well15:54
lucasagomeslemme take a look at the code15:54
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NobodyCambrb16:01
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lucasagomesNobodyCam, devananda any opinion re validation result structure? 3 suggestions: http://paste.openstack.org/show/55703/16:21
NobodyCammorning walkies...bbiafm....16:21
* NobodyCam looks16:22
NobodyCamhumm16:23
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NobodyCamprob #3 for /me16:24
NobodyCamnow morning walkies :)16:24
lucasagomesNobodyCam, :) okie dokie enjoy16:24
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NobodyCamok back16:34
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NobodyCam{'deploy': {'result': True, 'result': ''}, 'power': {'result': False, 'reason': 'blah blah blah'}, 'console': {'result': False, 'reason': 'not supported'}}16:40
NobodyCamlucasagomes: ^^??16:40
NobodyCam{'deploy': {'result': True, 'reason': ''}, 'power': {'result': False, 'reason': 'blah blah blah'}, 'console': {'result': False, 'reason': 'not supported'}}16:40
NobodyCam:-p16:40
lucasagomesNobodyCam, its grand, but reason will be always empty when the validation is True16:41
lucasagomesthat's why I thought about removing it16:41
lucasagomesI prefer without it :)16:41
NobodyCam:) ok16:41
NobodyCam:-p16:41
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devanandalucasagomes: #217:02
NobodyCamlol17:02
NobodyCam:)17:02
devanandalucasagomes: because "not supported" != "invalid parameters"17:02
devanandavalidate: {'console': {'result': False, 'reason': 'Not Supported'} } does not make sense t ome17:03
lucasagomesdevananda, right but wouldn't the result also be False? False to validate because that interface is not supported17:03
devanandano17:03
devanandaresult should be Null17:03
NobodyCambut not supported means nova cannot request a console17:03
devanandacorrect17:04
devanandabut it doesn't say anything about the parameters which were supplied to Ironic17:04
devanandathe console credentials may be totally valid17:04
devanandathe driver can't validate them because it's not supported17:04
NobodyCamhumm I kinda like the true / false result17:05
NobodyCamin #3 its false and the reasion is its not supported17:05
lucasagomeshmm yea, I understand result being null, because there were no validation at all, the interface is not present so there's no result17:06
lucasagomesbut that makes me like more #117:06
devananda(false, not supported) means that any client will need to inspect the reason to determine whether or not it should try again17:06
lucasagomesthan #2 heh17:06
devanandawith different parameters17:06
devanandalet's step back - why are we exposing validate()? -- I think it's to allow a client (eg, the admin) to verify if the management credentials he supplied to ironic are correct17:07
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NobodyCamalso so nova can validate b4 it attemps to perform a action17:08
NobodyCamie in spawn I am checking power and deploy not console17:08
devanandaat scale, operators will likely have a spreadsheet of nodes and IPMI creds17:09
NobodyCamI want to know those two actions will work to the best of our knowlage17:09
devanandathey'll feed this to a script to enroll the nodes17:09
devanandaand that script should cal lvalidate(), then inform the admin if anything fails17:09
devanandaeg, the IPMI info from the factory is wrong17:09
devananda(it happens)17:09
NobodyCam:) /has seem it 1st hand17:10
devanandaNobodyCam: as far as nova driver calling validate(), firstly, nova isn't setting the power driver info. if that's invalid, it shouldn't have been exposed to nova anyway17:11
devanandaas in, the admin enrolled in incorrectly17:11
devanandaif a node has reached driver.spawn() with incorrect power driver info, the best you can do in the nova driver is fail and let the scheduler retry17:12
NobodyCamthat should be cought by the node never getting a valid power state17:12
devanandawhich won't in any way stop that node (with bad info) from wasting more resources17:12
devanandayes17:12
NobodyCamso yes spawn check of power is invalid17:12
* NobodyCam removes17:13
devanandaso in driver.get_available_resources() it might make sense to look at the power_state and last_error ... maybe ...17:13
NobodyCamlast error to see it if tried a power action and failed17:13
devanandalucasagomes: back to the question at hand. valid:False means "the parameters are wrong. driver tried them but couldn't manage the node"17:14
devanandait's the old debate between boolean and ternary values17:14
devananda"no info" != "false"17:14
lucasagomesyup, valid: False means "I tried to validated and it fail", which is wrong when the interface is not supported because there were no attempt to validate it17:15
devanandaright17:15
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lucasagomesdevananda, NobodyCam right I will propose a patch soon17:16
NobodyCam:)17:16
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NobodyCambbt...brb17:24
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lucasagomesdevananda, as validations of the interfaces gets more complex we should expect more types of errors not only InvalidParameterValue17:56
lucasagomesbut it might fit in another patch17:57
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devanandalucasagomes: we should also expect more interfaces over time... lots more ...17:59
lucasagomesyup18:00
devanandaeg, having 3 fields per interface (current, target, error) is not going to scale18:00
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devanandalucasagomes: fyi, i reopened this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/124474718:03
lucasagomesdevananda, urgh... right18:04
lucasagomesdevananda, https://bugs.launchpad.net/wsme/+bug/125604218:04
devanandaerm...18:05
lucasagomesif we had the on_error hook to caputure the unhandled exceptions18:05
lucasagomesthat would be great for us18:05
devanandai thought that's pretty much what max_lobur added?18:05
lucasagomesdevananda, that wasn't, he did on the after() hook18:06
lucasagomesand there he strip off the tracebook from the string18:06
lucasagomesbut because of that problem with wsme18:06
lucasagomeswe had a bit of discussion bout it, seems it's like a trade-off of the wsme implementation. I reported it tho to let the wsme developers decide whether it's a bug or not18:08
lucasagomesbut I don't think they are paying much attention to the bug list18:08
max_loburhi devananda18:09
devanandamax_lobur: hi!18:09
max_lobura dumb question - Did you have debug option turned on in ironic.conf?18:09
devanandamax_lobur: i'm double checking, but fairly sure I do not.18:09
max_loburhmm18:09
devanandaNobodyCam: you're not enabling debug in the ironic element, right?18:10
NobodyCami don't think so.. but dbl checking now18:11
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devanandapretty sure when i was testing the ssh validate patch, i had to add LOG.warn to get it to apear in logs18:11
devanandaand i checked ironic.conf -- log level was warn18:11
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devanandarebuilding undercloud now to re-confirm18:12
devanandamax_lobur: something interesting - not all exceptions are bubbling up18:12
devanandai'm not sure why that one did and others did not18:12
NobodyCamhttps://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/ironic-api/os-apply-config/etc/ironic/logging-api.conf#L12 & https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/ironic-conductor/os-apply-config/etc/ironic/logging-conductor.conf#L12 are both at warn18:12
devanandaNobodyCam: oh. do i need to be merging your github branch to get ironic element still?18:13
NobodyCamyes18:13
devanandak, thought so18:13
NobodyCamoh at least to get the latest pulled by defau;t18:13
devanandabrb18:14
NobodyCamk18:14
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Improve the node validation output  https://review.openstack.org/6347718:28
* NobodyCam peeks18:28
lucasagomesNobodyCam, devananda ^ it works, prolly have to add more tests and improve the commit message18:29
lucasagomesbut will leave as WIP now cause I gotta run to buy another xmas gift to my mom18:29
lucasagomesmy flight is at 6am tomorrow so wont have time18:29
lucasagomesbe back :D18:29
NobodyCam:) have a great holiday lucasagomes18:29
NobodyCamsee you next year18:30
lucasagomesNobodyCam, thanks! you too buddy18:30
devanandalucasagomes: safe flight, happy holidays!18:30
lucasagomesdevananda, for you as well18:30
lucasagomesNobodyCam, devananda, all,  happy xmas!18:30
NobodyCam:D18:30
NobodyCamEgg Nog!!!18:30
NobodyCamlots of Egg Nog18:31
max_lobursafe trip and happy holiday lucasagomes! :)18:31
lucasagomesmax_lobur, :) same for you mate! happy holidays!18:32
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max_loburdevananda, I'll try to find out what's wrong with tracebacks next week18:40
max_loburif you have some additional details please add a bug comment18:41
max_loburhave a good weekend folks :)18:43
NobodyCamyou tooo max_lobur18:43
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lifelessdevananda: ah, thanks18:50
lifelessdevananda: so first boot or every boot?18:50
lifelessdevananda: we've deprecated one-time boot support and instead use idempotent scripts in orc18:51
lifelessdevananda: pulling data out of metadata server to decide what cinder things to connect to certainly sounds like an orc problem18:51
devanandalifeless: ah. that explains soe issues i'm having -- some scripts probably aren't quite idempotent :)18:57
devanandaanyway18:57
devanandalifeless: thanks. i'll continue pointing hemna in that direction18:57
devanandafor FC SAN, it's all about being able to config the BIOS remotely. that's an ironic driver thing that isn't written yet, and won't be for Icehouse18:58
lifelessor presumably from the ramdisk for some hardware?18:59
devanandas/remotely//18:59
devanandaeither way, FC is a firmware thing, AIUI18:59
devanandafor iSCSI, it's mounted by the OS, and looks like all the bits are in place in cinder and nova, but we'll need ironic to generate an IQN to supply to both cinder and the hw node19:00
lifelessif you want boot from volume19:00
NobodyCamfireware for things like HBA adaptors19:00
devanandathat IQN, chap credentials, etc, will need to get passed into the instance eg. via cloud-init19:00
lifelessthere's boot from volume for iSCSI too19:00
NobodyCams/fireware/firmware/19:01
devanandayea, boot from volume is slightly different19:01
devanandai think hemna is looking at doing this incrementally, which i agree with19:01
devanandafirst jsut add volume support19:01
devanandathen add the bits to make it bootable19:01
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lifeless+119:03
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NobodyCambagel even19:15
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devanandahumm, periodic task interval is not changing as expected19:32
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devanandaeven when i change the default in code19:33
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devanandavery odd19:37
devanandadefault <= 60 --> one minute interval19:37
devanandadefault = 90 --> 2 minute interval ???19:38
NobodyCam:-p two minutes, minute and a half all about hte same unless your watching the popcorn in microwave19:39
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devanandaa) why can't i set the interval lower than 60 seconds19:46
devanandab) how does 90 == 120?19:46
devanandait's not approximately two minutes19:46
devanandait's EXACTRLY 120 seconds19:46
devanandaand consistently so19:47
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devanandafound out why19:51
NobodyCamdevananda: do you think it is to much of a miss use of lucas patch to validate for the nova driver to use it to determain what is required for that nodes driver .. or would something like a required_requirments type fuction be in order?20:00
devanandaNobodyCam: could you rephrase?20:01
NobodyCamquick hangout20:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Add 'next' link when GET maximum number of items  https://review.openstack.org/6274322:46
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