Friday, 2013-12-13

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NobodyCambrb00:39
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Haomengmorning Ironic:)01:39
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NobodyCammornig Haomeng :02:18
NobodyCam:)02:19
HaomengNobodyCam: :)02:35
HaomengNobodyCam: nice Fri evening, and enjoy the weekend:)02:41
HaomengNobodyCam: maybe you are on Th, not Fr, sorry:)02:42
HaomengNobodyCam: :)02:42
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hstimerHow ready/unready is ironic at this point? Is it good enough to experiment with?03:00
Haomenghstimer: almostly our functions are impemented, but I think it is not ready to use now, welcome03:08
Haomenghstimer: we have mail list you can check status03:09
Haomenghstimer: let me help you find it03:09
hstimer:-)03:09
hstimerIs MAAS a competitor to ironic?03:09
Haomenghstimer: maas? tripleo?03:11
Haomengwhich maas?03:11
hstimerUbuntu MAAS03:11
Haomenghstimer: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/022000.html this is our PTL Ironic Project update official mail, fyi03:12
Haomenghstimer: you can get your answer in this mail list03:13
hstimerok, thank you03:13
Haomenghstimer: welcome any time:)03:13
Haomenghstimer: Yes, MAAS is a generic Linux systems auto-deployment tool from bare metal, it is great, but I think ironic/tripleo is using for OpenStack self-deployment03:16
Haomenghstimer: how do you think about03:16
hstimerIntegration with openstack sounds good, but I don't know enough about MAAS or Ironic.03:17
Haomenghstimer: http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/an-evaluation-of-openstack-deployment-frameworks03:17
Haomenghstimer: An OpenStack Summit Presentations - "An Evaluation of OpenStack Deployment Frameworks"03:18
hstimerthank you, I'll take a look.03:18
Haomenghstimer: Ironic/Tripleo is special for OpenStack systems03:18
Haomenghstimer: ubuntu maas should be generic tool03:18
Haomenghstimer: this is my understanding:)03:18
hstimerthat is about as much as I know too03:19
Haomenghstimer: :)03:22
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/6192006:02
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Add driver interfaces validation  https://review.openstack.org/5459309:26
lucasagomesNobodyCam, 54593 rebased :) thanks09:28
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openstackgerritYuriy Zveryanskyy proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Check connectivity in SSH driver 'validate' method  https://review.openstack.org/6087609:35
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Reworks Node validations  https://review.openstack.org/5749510:18
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Reworks Node validations  https://review.openstack.org/5749510:24
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: API: Validate driver when creating/updating a node  https://review.openstack.org/6196010:59
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Reworks Chassis validations  https://review.openstack.org/5768611:13
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openstackgerritYuriy Zveryanskyy proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Strip '/' from api_url string for PXE driver  https://review.openstack.org/6020511:29
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Convert trycmd() to oslo's processutils  https://review.openstack.org/6170912:39
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NobodyCamgood morning iRonic14:26
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max_loburmorning Ironic!14:58
NobodyCammorning max_lobur14:59
max_loburmorning NobodyCam :)15:00
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NobodyCam:)15:00
max_lobura question to the everyone - does anybody use PyCharm for development?15:00
NobodyCamnot i15:01
max_loburI've recently contacted JetBrains and they said they're able to provide a free licence for a professional version of the 3rd gen PyCharm for the whole team if someone of core Devs will submit request form15:01
max_loburhttp://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/15:01
NobodyCami use TextWrangler15:02
max_loburhttp://www.jetbrains.com/eforms/openSourceRequest.action?licenseRequest=PCP05NS# this is a submission form15:02
max_loburif someone interested - welcome :)15:02
NobodyCammax_lobur: yes there was a email some time back that they are offering that15:02
max_loburdid they provide some terms for this? e.g. to mention somewhere in project wiki that we use pycharm.. Just interesting15:04
NobodyCamI'd have to look it up. as I recall it was a 1 year linc. free of you are a atc for openstack15:06
max_loburah I see15:06
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yuriyzMorning Ironic15:14
max_loburmorning yuriyz15:15
NobodyCammorning yuriyz15:15
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yuriyzmax_lobur, Openstack team has already PyCharm licence, please contact Andrew Melton (message 09/26/13 in maillist)15:18
sandeeprmorning ironic15:19
NobodyCamgood morning sandeepr15:19
sandeepror rather evening :)15:19
sandeeprhey hey NobodyCam good morning15:19
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NobodyCam:)15:19
max_loburyuriyz, that's interesting, thanks!15:19
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NobodyCamGhe_HPDi1cover: How goes Discover16:57
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NobodyCambbt ... brb17:11
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openstackgerritdekehn proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Method to generate PXE options for Neutron ports  https://review.openstack.org/6090417:22
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NobodyCampost breakfast walkies...17:28
devanandamorning, all!17:29
NobodyCamgood morning devananda17:44
NobodyCamdkehn: you around?17:47
devanandaNobodyCam: have you seed someone named dima or dshulyak appear in channel this week?17:47
dkehnyes17:47
dkehnNobodyCam: whats up17:48
NobodyCamdevananda: not that I recall. I can go back thru my log if needed17:48
NobodyCamdkehn: just  question on 6090417:48
devanandaNobodyCam: i was hoping for some context on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/ironic-web-server17:48
dkehnNobodyCam: shoot17:49
NobodyCam_get_pxe_bootfile_name() just returns CONF.pxe.pxe_bootfile_name it appers to be used _dhcp_options_for_instance() which also uses CONF.pxe.tftp_server directly. just wounder why the _get_pxe_bootfile_name function vs just using CONF.pxe.pxe_bootfile_name directly in _dhcp_options_for_instance17:51
dkehnNobodyCam: look again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60904/7/ironic/drivers/modules/pxe.py, but in essense correct, this is a a 1st patch17:52
NobodyCamdevananda: are you sure that is  the nick?17:57
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NobodyCamdevananda: just looked at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org for the dates that BP was filed .. I do not see that nick also searched for "web"18:01
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NobodyCams/that nick/those nicks/18:02
devanandaNobodyCam: thanks. i just poked dhellman and got an answer18:03
hemnadevananda, I'm working on the cinder BP today.   I started it last night, but didn't get to fill it out much.18:04
hemnaI have an etherpad with most of my notes in it.18:05
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devanandahemna: great! there's a spot in the BP to link to an external URL -- please put the etherpad link there18:07
hemnawill do18:08
devanandahemna: it's OK if most of the details aren't in the actual BP then18:08
hemnaI'm working on a wiki page that will hopefully have all the details, at least from a high level18:08
hemnaas I still don't know the innards of ironic well enough yet18:08
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devanandaSpamapS: for later: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/54/60954/5/check/gate-ironic-docs/c589fc2/doc/build/html/webapi/v1.html18:24
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NobodyCamno lucas today?18:26
NobodyCamdevananda: got a free miunte to quiclky look over: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61664/18:26
devanandaNobodyCam: on a call right now. will look in a bit18:29
NobodyCam:)18:31
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hemnayou really want to fill the log with debugging for every execute call?18:35
NobodyCamhemna: on 61664?18:36
hemnayah18:36
NobodyCamit at debug level18:37
NobodyCamso most of the op I know don't run production at debug level18:37
hemnaseems like something a dev would do for short term testing...but I guess Ironic is incubation :)18:37
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SpamapSdevananda: ty, reading now :)18:52
NobodyCammorning SpamapS :)18:55
SpamapSdevananda: nice and simple. Makes a lot of sense. :)18:59
devanandaSpamapS: glad to hear it :)18:59
devanandaSpamapS: that should land soon, I hope, at which point it'll be available at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/webapi/v1.html19:00
* NobodyCam thinks "heat stack-create" is taking longer now... or time is slowing down.. lol19:02
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NobodyCambrb19:44
hemnahttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic/blueprints/cinder-integration19:51
hemnaok that's a quick first pass19:52
* devananda reviews20:00
devanandahemna: under workflow, item 120:01
devananda"User asks Ironic to boot a node from a cinder volume (uuid)20:01
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hemnak20:01
devanandahemna: i think this should be: User asks Nova to create an instance with --boot-from-volume <uuid>20:01
hemnaok, I wasn't sure what the right semantics were there20:02
hemnaso a user will still use nova to orchestrate with BM ?20:02
devanandahemna: the entrypoint to booting an instance is still via Nova, yes20:02
hemnanova calls ironic ?20:02
devanandayep20:02
hemnaok coolio20:02
devanandahemna: fyi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51328/20:03
devanandahemna: we're adding a nova driver taht will replace the "baremetal" driver20:03
devanandathat takes care of the scheduling. it will technically be possible to deploy an instance without using Nova, but not encouraged20:04
hemnaok cool20:04
hemnaupdated the wiki page20:04
devanandahemna: i'm not sure how you are using the BM acronym. it seems to mean a few different things20:06
hemnaok20:06
hemnaI can clarify that20:06
hemnaBM to me means bare metal host20:06
* NobodyCam giggles20:06
devanandaright20:06
devanandaso in Ironic, we just call that the "node"20:06
hemnaok20:06
hemnaheh that's just my cinder bias20:07
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devananda:)20:07
hemnawould you like me to change BM -> node ?20:07
devanandacan you fill in some details about what information is passed between services at each point?20:07
devanandahemna: please :)20:07
hemnaok will do20:07
hemnaI really appreciate the feedback20:07
devanandaeg, "passing in the connection information" -- what exactly is this info?20:07
hemnaok sure20:07
devanandahemna: it's a great start. one of the best BP's we've gotten so far20:09
hemnaok cool. :)20:09
devanandaalso, as i assume you already know, this doesn't exist yet: Ironic has an abstracted BIOS communication layer.20:10
hemnaok removed BM20:10
devanandaunless there's a way to do the iSCSI/FC configuration via IPMI which I'm not aware of20:10
hemnaI'll work on filling in the details for the calls after lunch20:11
hemnadevananda, yah I assumed it doesn't exist yet20:11
devanandahemna: cool. I'll try and take another look this afternoon; if I dont, I'll definitely look again next week.20:11
hemnaok great thank you.20:12
hemnaIf nothing else, it's a way to start the discussion process of what's needed.20:12
devanandaNobodyCam: want to poke at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60954/ again?20:21
NobodyCamsure... was just digging in to that error that you get with the nova driver20:22
devanandahemna: exactly, and i suspect we'll have several discussions about it, particularly w.r.t. BIOS configuration20:22
NobodyCamI am now getting it too20:22
devanandaNobodyCam: ahhh :(20:22
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NobodyCamdevananda: what is expected as :param marker: pagination marker for large data sets. int? page #, record #?,or ???20:24
devanandaNobodyCam: the value returned in the previous result set20:25
devanandaNobodyCam: it is not an arbitrary user-settable value20:25
devanandaNobodyCam: I believe it will be the UUID of the last resource of the previous result set20:27
devanandaby default20:27
NobodyCam:)20:27
devanandabut if you change the sort parameter, then the marker will be the value of that column instead of uuid ... I THINK ...20:28
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Add driver interfaces validation  https://review.openstack.org/5459320:28
NobodyCamdo you have any thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60876/20:29
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devanandaNobodyCam: looks reasoanble to me, particularly considering ^ just landed20:31
devanandaNobodyCam: means that we can call the API to test that SSH driver actually works, instead of calling "nova boot" and having it fail20:32
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NobodyCamis that not called when changing driver info to20:32
NobodyCam*too20:32
NobodyCamso, in my case, I coud not even enter nodes with out my ssh host active20:33
NobodyCamlooking at port.py on 6095420:34
NobodyCamget_all and detail have the EXACT same doc string?20:35
devanandahumm20:35
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NobodyCammaybe add from collections to detail?20:37
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devanandaNobodyCam: ironic.conductor.manager update_node()20:38
devanandaNobodyCam: i only see driver.power.validate() called if the node.instance_uuid is being set20:38
devanandato prevent associating a powered-on node20:38
NobodyCamoh you are right we talked about just tht b420:38
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devananda:)20:40
NobodyCamso just the comment on port20:40
NobodyCamfor 6095420:41
NobodyCamyou want a comment on the review?20:41
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devanandaeh?20:42
NobodyCamhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/60954/5/ironic/api/controllers/v1/port.py20:43
NobodyCamget_all and detail have the EXACT same doc string?20:43
NobodyCamnot that way for node or chassis20:43
devanandahuh20:44
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NobodyCamsee deg get_all and def detail here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60954/5/ironic/api/controllers/v1/node.py and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60954/5/ironic/api/controllers/v1/node.py20:46
NobodyCamthen look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60954/5/ironic/api/controllers/v1/port.py20:46
NobodyCamthe doc string in port.py is the exact same for both20:46
NobodyCams/deg/def/20:47
devanandaNobodyCam: yea. i was just digging around to see if there was a functional difference. there is20:48
* devananda updates the patch -AGAIN-20:48
NobodyCam:-p sorry20:48
devanandaNobodyCam: please comment20:48
devanandaand gah, i really thought that would have been a simple, quick-to-merge patch ....20:49
devanandaalso, i need to go make lunch in a bit20:49
NobodyCamlol -1'd20:50
NobodyCam:(20:50
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devanandaNobodyCam: heh. you commented on wrong file :p20:51
NobodyCamahhh20:51
NobodyCami did20:51
NobodyCamupdated20:52
NobodyCam:-p20:53
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix auto-generated REST API formatting  https://review.openstack.org/6095420:55
devanandafixed20:55
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NobodyCamI will +2 as soon as mr J is done20:56
devanandatyvm20:56
NobodyCamif it keeps lucas's +2 I will also +a20:57
NobodyCamor I could just +a it.. :-p20:57
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NobodyCambrb while waiting on mr J21:09
devanandait won't keep any of the prior votes21:27
devanandabecause content changed (by just a few characters, but still)21:28
devanandai would still +A it, if it werent' my patch ;)21:28
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NobodyCam:-p22:03
NobodyCamdevananda: do we know if lucas is on vacation?22:05
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devanandaNobodyCam: i do not know22:10
NobodyCami'll +a that patch22:10
NobodyCamlucas gave it a +2 already22:10
NobodyCamdone22:14
NobodyCamnoted lucas already +2'd and you really on changed "with detail"22:15
NobodyCams/on/only/22:15
devanandasounds good :)22:16
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* NobodyCam is going to buy a new MOUSE this weekend22:17
NobodyCamand this error is quite odd22:19
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NobodyCamdevananda: do you how to unapply a patch?22:41
NobodyCamhttps://github.com/openstack/python-ironicclient/commit/1fd3fcf59548ca53ea742a140457daabd579fe7222:41
devanandawe can revert it...22:43
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NobodyCambrb23:05
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Developer doc index page points to correct API docs  https://review.openstack.org/6096023:07
devanandaNobodyCam: ^ is very minor, needs another +2/a23:08
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ironic: Fix auto-generated REST API formatting  https://review.openstack.org/6095423:16
NobodyCamdevananda: ^^^23:16
devananda\o/23:16
NobodyCam:)23:16
* NobodyCam can tell its friday23:16
NobodyCamlol23:16
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* NobodyCam loves the ablity to redeploy a dev/test env with heat stack-create23:22
* devananda notices that a single "s" has prevented 59795 from merging23:24
NobodyCam???23:24
NobodyCamsilly 's'23:24
NobodyCamprint "Silly %s" % 's'23:25
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Improve method to get list of active conductors  https://review.openstack.org/5979523:25
devanandawell, it needed a rebase anyway ...23:27
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Improve method to get list of active conductors  https://review.openstack.org/5979523:28
NobodyCamLOL23:28
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Implement consistent hashing of nodes to conductors  https://review.openstack.org/5889523:43
devanandait's friday ...23:45
devanandahave a good weekend everyone :)23:45
hemnaw00t!23:46
NobodyCamhave a good weekend devananda23:47
NobodyCam:)23:47
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