Thursday, 2020-08-06

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fungisean-k-mooney: aha, and one of the replies points out https://packaging.python.org/specifications/core-metadata/#requires-external-multiple-use so there is at least a metadata specification for it even if nothing is actually taking advantage of that (yet)00:41
fungimaybe that's something bindep could try to integrate support for00:41
fungithough i haven't yet thought through what such integration might look like (pbr embedding relevant requires-external metadata in packages based on what's in bindep.txt seems somewhat extreme, ideally the transitive python dependencies which are the ones building such c extensions would declare this, not pure python packages like most of what openstack consists of)00:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/pbr master: Add support for virtualenv 20.x  https://review.opendev.org/71996400:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack/pbr master: Update hacking  https://review.opendev.org/74498301:08
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openstackgerritLajos Katona proposed openstack/project-config master: Import netowrking-l2gw & networking-l2gw-tempest-plugin to x/  https://review.opendev.org/74411006:35
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slaweqfrickler: hi, can You put nodes from the jobs tobiko-devstack-faults-centos-8, tobiko-devstack-faults-ubuntu-bionic, tobiko-devstack-faults-ubuntu-focal on hold - only on patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/727103/08:05
slaweqfrickler: I need to check it once again how it looks on the nodes when it is failing08:05
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fricklerslaweq: that was an easy one, still in my history ;)08:10
slaweqfrickler: thx a lot08:11
slaweqit's our old issue and I'm going to have another attempt to investigate it, and we can't reproduce it never outside the CI :/08:11
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Map requires-python to python-requires  https://review.opendev.org/71548408:26
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Fix periodic integration jobs  https://review.opendev.org/71832208:27
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: trivial: Improve logging of run commands  https://review.opendev.org/74033708:27
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Update python requires packaging metadata for package  https://review.opendev.org/71591708:28
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Remove neutron-fwaas from the jobs' required project  https://review.opendev.org/73585208:29
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Update some url to use opendev.org  https://review.opendev.org/74470408:30
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Re-add ChangeLog  https://review.opendev.org/74471908:30
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Add Release Notes to documentation  https://review.opendev.org/74472008:30
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Remove bdist_wininst support  https://review.opendev.org/73544308:31
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Use easy_install.ScriptWriter.get_header()  https://review.opendev.org/73543308:32
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: DNM: testing gate on ubuntu focal  https://review.opendev.org/74433508:32
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Use importlib-metadata for runtime package version lookups  https://review.opendev.org/66203508:33
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Support newer openstackdocstheme  https://review.opendev.org/73253508:33
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/pbr master: Add pre-commit  https://review.opendev.org/74216008:34
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slaweqfrickler: ping, job tobiko-devstack-faults-centos-8 failed: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/4f1ba92459d148bc9ba5f6c6641871e109:49
slaweqfrickler: can You put my ssh key on those nodes?09:49
slaweqfrickler: my ssh key http://paste.openstack.org/show/796625/09:51
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fricklerslaweq: done, I had already recovered your key from old logs, or did it change?09:55
slaweqfrickler: it's the same09:55
slaweqI just didn't know if You have it or not :)09:55
slaweqthx a lot09:55
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sean-k-mooney o/12:13
sean-k-mooneydoes anyone know if we recently changed the cirros test image we are uing12:13
sean-k-mooneyjust noticed that in at least one job we had the guest crash with a kernel panic12:14
sean-k-mooneyKernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work!  Boot with apic=debug and send a report.  Then try booting with the 'noapic' option12:14
sean-k-mooneyhttps://c52a72a4c412212bb156-dc95df9dc6d9c4be8998bc6e49021df1.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/744280/4/check/nova-next/265621e/testr_results.html12:14
sean-k-mooney Hostname: ubuntu-bionic-ovh-bhs1-001912951112:15
sean-k-mooneynot sure its provider specific but i wonder if there has been a spike in failure on  ovh-bhs1 recently12:15
sean-k-mooneylooks like that is not captured in http://grafana.openstack.org/d/BhcSH5Iiz/nodepool-ovh?orgId=112:17
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sean-k-mooneylook like there are no cirros release since march12:19
sean-k-mooneyhttp://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message:%5C%22Kernel%20panic%5C%2212:22
sean-k-mooneylooks like there are only a couple of cases in the last 30days12:22
sean-k-mooneybut we might want to keep an eye on it12:22
fricklersean-k-mooney: I've seen that error a couple of times, but it seems to be pretty rare in general, also I'd have no idea how to tackle it12:23
sean-k-mooneylooks like those hits are spread between rax and ovh12:24
sean-k-mooneyrax us xen still?12:24
sean-k-mooneyits likely not provider related12:24
sean-k-mooneyfrickler: proably would require a new cirros image to fix12:25
sean-k-mooneyfrickler: it it does not start to happen frequently its probly just one of those random failures12:25
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sean-k-mooneyanyway i just tought it was odd so said i would flag it to ye incase other start hitting it12:26
fricklerwell cirros isn't exactly under active development, so I wouldn't expect much from there unless someone pushes them. it's also using just a stock ubuntu kernel afaict12:27
sean-k-mooneyyes the 18.04 one i think currenlty12:27
sean-k-mooneywe proably should swap to an alpine image or something that is maintained but equally tiny at some point12:28
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fricklerif you find something suitable, that would be nice, but most alternatives I've seen did require significantly more resources12:29
sean-k-mooney32mb up to 40mb for the virutal alpine image would not cost much12:29
sean-k-mooneyalpine is really light weight12:29
sean-k-mooneyit even uses dropbaer by default instead of openssh to have a lower footprint12:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/pbr master: Map requires-python to python-requires  https://review.opendev.org/71548413:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/pbr master: Update python requires packaging metadata for package  https://review.opendev.org/71591713:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/pbr master: Remove neutron-fwaas from the jobs' required project  https://review.opendev.org/73585213:06
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/pbr master: Update some url to use opendev.org  https://review.opendev.org/74470413:10
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/pbr master: Re-add ChangeLog  https://review.opendev.org/74471913:10
AJaegerstephenfin: I rebased 744704 and 744719, could you review again, please? ^13:14
stephenfinAJaeger: sure13:14
stephenfindone13:16
AJaegerthanks, stephenfin13:17
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hasharAJaeger: stephenfin: thank you for the help on the openstack/pbr change above :]  (I am Antoine Musso)13:30
stephenfinnp :)13:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/project-config master: Mirror keystone-kerberos and ceph-iscsi charms to GitHub  https://review.opendev.org/74489013:34
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lajoskatonagmann, AJaeger: Hi, regarding https://review.opendev.org/744110, so the conclusion is to remove .zuul.yaml, from openstack/networking-l2gw M14:21
lajoskatona--^ ?14:21
clarkbsean-k-mooney: does alpine publish an image that will cloud-init (cloud init proper needs python which will make the image much larger. Cirros does simple version of it with alternate scripts iirc)14:23
clarkbsean-k-mooney: making that change in devstack is self testing too14:23
sean-k-mooneyclarkb: im not sure i have not looked at what is in the virtual image14:23
sean-k-mooneyit has a stripped down kernel but not sure if it has an cloud-init14:24
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sean-k-mooneyclarkb: could we use the nodepool buildt images? for example use nodepool to build an image of alpine wiht say glean or cloud-init and then use that by default14:25
gmannlajoskatona: i think so as per AJaeger script checks the existing of zuul file/folder. so removing for now and re-adding it later which will not be much difficult14:25
sean-k-mooneyassumign the default alpine one does not have cloud init14:25
fungithis also seems like something diskimage-builder could produce if someone had the time and energy to dedicate to maintaining the base element for it14:25
sean-k-mooneyfungi: yep that is what i was tinking of with the nodepool sugestion14:25
sean-k-mooneywe already host those image publicly so if we could build a tiny alpine image with dib and push it there then we coudl test it with devstack14:26
fungiahh, well nodepool manages images for instances that it boots directly. it probably wouldn't boot these directly for job nodes14:26
sean-k-mooneyyes but i was more thinking if we  need a custome image to be hosted14:26
fungithough i suppose we *could* boot them in real clouds for specific jobs, if there's a use for that14:27
sean-k-mooneywe already have the mecanics for the nodepool images14:27
fungibut nodepool doesn't publish and version images in a stable manner, it just keeps the most recent two days it was able to successfully build, with incremental serial numbering14:27
fungiwe might want something a little more formal for versioning them, keeping more versions for longer, et cetera14:28
sean-k-mooneymaybe14:28
sean-k-mooneyanyway i guess i can alway just pull donw there virutal image and try an boot it on my home cloud14:29
sean-k-mooneyill do that now and let ye know if it has cloud init or not14:29
fungifor example, you might not want to use yesterday's guest image build in a stable/rocky devstack run14:29
fungi(or maybe you do, i don't know)14:29
lajoskatonagmann: ok, so remove .zuul file/ folder and see if this patch passes.14:29
lajoskatonagmann: wondering if must be removed for all branches?14:29
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sean-k-mooneyfungi: well we dont really do much with the guest image other then ssh and poke at a few clis that are all provided by busy box14:30
sean-k-mooneycirros also uses busybox so from that point of view it should be the same14:30
sean-k-mooneybrb14:30
clarkbwell the reason I ask about cloud init (amd even glean) is they require python which means you cant have a tiny image14:31
clarkbyou need something else that apptoximates that functionality which cirros does provide14:31
sean-k-mooneyah ok14:31
gmannlajoskatona: i think only master, as stable branches stay in openstack/ only.14:31
lajoskatonagmann: ok14:31
clarkband yes dib can build images but you'd likely need to do a lot of that work from scratch14:31
sean-k-mooneythe alpine iamge apear to be isos too14:32
sean-k-mooneyso we would need to d it via dib14:32
sean-k-mooneyya14:32
sean-k-mooneyit might be worth it in the long run14:32
sean-k-mooneyfor now that kernel crash does not seam to happen often14:32
sean-k-mooneyclarkb: by the way the alpine python docker image is only 16MB14:33
AJaegergmann, lajoskatona, in that case: Don't import stable branches in x namespace. So, clone on a public available git server the repos, remove branches and zuul files.14:33
fungiclarkb: i wonder, can glean work with only python builtins, or does it need a lot of stuff from stdlib?14:33
sean-k-mooneyso even if you had to add python to the 40 virtual image it would only be 56mb + cloud init14:33
fungii haven't looked at its internals much lately14:34
fungicloud-init i'm sure needs all of stdlib and also some stuff not in stdlib14:34
clarkbfungi: I think its dep listis minimal but not empty14:34
sean-k-mooneyim pretty sure we could create a sub 100mb image in anycase14:34
clarkbcloud init needs all the things14:34
sean-k-mooneyyes including py-yaml...14:35
sean-k-mooneywhich makes devstack unhappy14:35
gmannAJaeger: ohk, can we import stable also?14:35
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sean-k-mooneyif im feelign adventurous at the weekend i might give the dib approch a shot14:35
sean-k-mooneyclarkb: fungi what do you think an accpetable iamge size would be14:36
fungisean-k-mooney: i doubt the image size is especially critical, memory footprint however is14:36
sean-k-mooneyif its sub 100mb would you think it would be worth it? i think it could be smaller14:36
clarkbwithin range of cirros? otherwise why not maintain cirros instead14:36
sean-k-mooneyi think alpine runs with less then 128mb14:37
clarkbfungi: they both are, we cache like 5 cirros images in our images14:37
sean-k-mooneyit used to anyway14:37
gmannAJaeger: or lajoskatona can better tell if he want to import stable also in case he keep releasing stable for bug fixes etc?14:37
fungiclarkb: oh, yeah good point, from a caching standpoint we don't want them too large14:37
clarkbbut then tests want ti minimize runtime mempry costs too so both are factors to consider14:37
fungithough maybe if we're maintaining something we can dispense with four of the five images14:37
sean-k-mooneyso if we coudl support 128mb or less of both ram and disk it woudl be a resonable alternitive?14:38
clarkbsean-k-mooney: I think thats bigger than we'd like. memory for cirros is 96mb iirc14:38
clarkband we already swap on those jobs14:38
fungiit's not entirely clear to me why we cache five different versions of cirros, unless it's because the version number is embedded in its filename and we don't want to have to backport patches to stable devstack to change that name14:39
sean-k-mooneywell 128mb is the minium they recommend but i have booted it with less14:39
clarkbfor disk size ya if we can replace 5 35mb images with one 128mb image thats probably fine14:39
lajoskatonaAJaeger, gmann: I suppose stable branches will be available at openstack/, and not much backports happened as I know14:39
sean-k-mooneyim just not sure if we would hit the same issues we had with cirror lately running out of memory14:39
clarkbreally the ideal is as small as possible. Might be good to evaluate what is possible, compare to cirros and decideif maintaining cirros is abetteroption14:40
clarkbfungi: I think there is also fear new cirros will break on old devstack deploymants for $reasons14:41
fungiwhich might also just be the same thing as forking cirros if it's effectively unmaintained now14:41
sean-k-mooneyalpine was orginally created to use on embeded devices and network applicanes so it intentionall light weight14:41
fungiit's unfortunate the emdebian project eventually stopped getting maintained14:42
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sean-k-mooneywell it boots with 64mb of ram14:45
gmannlajoskatona: +1.14:46
fungii wonder if it'll be able to invoke python though14:46
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/pbr master: Add Release Notes to documentation  https://review.opendev.org/74472014:51
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sean-k-mooneyit does not have a dhcp client or python installed by defualt14:54
sean-k-mooneyso once i have dns working ill give it a try14:54
fungior, you could probably copy the files for that into the image mounted on a loopback14:55
sean-k-mooneyi could but i jsut booted teh iso on my home cloud and am playing with it14:55
fungior mount an additional block device from a local file you've done that with14:55
sean-k-mooneyif i used the normal image it would have the client but nice to no the virtual image really is stripped down14:57
sean-k-mooneyoh it has udhcp just need to add a /etc/network/interfaces file15:01
sean-k-mooneyand both ipv6 and ipv4 now jsut work15:02
fungineat15:10
sean-k-mooneyso no 64m is too small to run apk update15:11
sean-k-mooneyoom-kill15:11
sean-k-mooneyit looks like its using 29mb by defualt15:12
sean-k-mooney96 would proably work15:12
sean-k-mooneyanyway im going to leave that for today but ill playwith it at the weekend15:12
fungiwe probably don't need to run it large enough for that under devstack, so in theory you could boot it with more memory temporarily to install python3 and then reboot it with less ram to test running something with python15:15
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/pbr master: Remove bdist_wininst support  https://review.opendev.org/73544315:26
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sean-k-mooneyfungi: oh ya i could i could just snap shot it after installing stuff then both the snapshot15:34
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/pbr master: WIP: Begin work to modernize pbr's integration testing  https://review.opendev.org/74517115:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/pbr master: Support newer openstackdocstheme  https://review.opendev.org/73253515:36
clarkbfungi: smcginnis ^ fyi that feels like the next step here to avoid being broken again when devstack-gate finally stops being useful ;)15:36
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smcginnisThanks for working on that clarkb15:38
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/pbr master: WIP: Begin work to modernize pbr's integration testing  https://review.opendev.org/74517115:43
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gmannlajoskatona: we need to get some job lile pep8 or noop in https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/branch/master/zuul.d/projects.yaml#L336615:59
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AJaegergmann: why?16:02
gmannAJaeger: to merge the zuul.yaml removal - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745161/116:02
AJaegergmann: My suggestion was to clone the repo, remove not needed branches and files and then import that cloned repo16:02
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/pbr master: WIP: Begin work to modernize pbr's integration testing  https://review.opendev.org/74517116:03
AJaegergmann: so, you want to import all branches now - and remove all branches from openstack? Yes, then you need the noop jobs.16:03
AJaegergmann: please document the plan for *both* repos so that we can review whether the changes you suggest do the right thing.16:04
gmannAJaeger:   my understanding was 1. remove the zuul file m existing repo which need noop job 2. import 3. delete the repo form openstack/ 3. re-add the zuul file16:06
clarkbgmann: iirc we don't delete the repos from openstack/ anymore16:07
clarkbthat was the TC decision16:07
clarkbthey are retired in place. Then if people want to fork they can16:07
AJaegergmann: you mentioned before that stable branches stay in openstack/networking-l2gw. My question is on this one.16:08
gmannclarkb: this is for networking-l2gw which was never under TC but repo exist in openstack/ so as cleanup we need to move it to non-openstack namespace16:08
AJaegergmann: So, are you moving all of networking-l2gw into namespace x and completely retire the repos in openstack namespace?16:08
gmannAJaeger: yeah that is what lajoskatona also confirm as there are no much changes expected there16:09
gmanni leave the stable branch decision to lajoskatona16:09
AJaegergmann: ok, then yes, adding the noop job is needed like in any repo retirement.16:09
AJaegergmann: STOP! The stable branch decision depends on how we import.16:10
AJaegergmann: Let's first decide what to do. Retirement of repo has an impact on stable branches and meeans different imports!16:10
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AJaegergmann: So, first write up what you plan to do with the repos, then push *all* changes. I'll review them *all* together - and will only +2 once I see both. An etherpad might be good for this. Could you create one, please?16:11
AJaegergmann: this is all tricky and I don't want to need to redo anything.16:11
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gmannwe have etherpad we can write there - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-retirement-cleanup16:12
gmannlet me check the final go ahead for stable things form lajoskatona and then we can proceed accordingly.16:12
AJaegergmann: ok, we can add a section there. I'll be off for a bit, will review later - maybe tomorrow.16:13
gmannAJaeger: sure, thanks. I will write up on L3016:13
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/pbr master: WIP: Begin work to modernize pbr's integration testing  https://review.opendev.org/74517116:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/pbr master: Update some url to use opendev.org  https://review.opendev.org/74470416:23
fungigmann: wait, what are you talking about with moving repos? all projects which remained in the openstack git namespace after the opendev migration are current or former official project deliverables or otherwise official repos (those controlled by sigs or the osf board)16:29
funginetworking-l2gw *was* an official openstack deliverable16:29
fungiit gets retired in-place and can be forked if people want to continue maintaining it in a different namespace16:29
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fungiopenstack/networking-l2gw and openstack/networking-l2gw-tempest-plugin were official delivberables of the neutron team until 2016-11-0116:30
fungiejected from neutron in governance with this change: https://review.openstack.org/392010 (merged 2016-11-15)16:32
gmannfungi: for  networking-l2gw we (including you and AJaeger ) already discussed in TC channel to import to x/namespace as it has active team and want to continue the development wit minimum impact16:32
fungigmann: oh, got it. so it *is* still being retired in place16:32
funginot being moved16:33
gmannyeah16:33
fungiyou said "this is for networking-l2gw which was never under TC but repo exist in openstack/ so as cleanup we need to move it to non-openstack namespace"16:33
fungiwhich is wrong in basically every way16:33
gmannohk, 'never' was not right16:33
fungiit *was* under the tc, and as part of cleanup it's not being moved, it's being left there where it was retired and then forked in a new namespace16:34
gmann"it is retired repo but with active team and repos under openstack/ namespace which did not get cleaned up during namespace migration things. '16:35
gmannI am trying to help on not to impact or minimal impact on their active development.16:36
gmannbut process seems complex here16:36
gmannanyways i am waiting for lajoskatona to come online tomorrow and decide on stable branch first and then  proceed accordingly.16:37
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/project-config master: Fix 'submit' permission for retired repo acl  https://review.opendev.org/74518716:52
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/pbr master: WIP: Begin work to modernize pbr's integration testing  https://review.opendev.org/74517116:58
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/project-config master: Cleanup old periodic pbr jobs  https://review.opendev.org/74518917:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/project-config master: Fix 'submit' permission for retired repo acl  https://review.opendev.org/74518717:09
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/pbr master: Begin work to modernize pbr's integration testing  https://review.opendev.org/74517117:46
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/pbr master: Cleanup old legacy devstack-gate jobs  https://review.opendev.org/74519217:46
clarkbbased on earlier testing I expect ^ is ready for review now17:46
clarkbsmcginnis: fungi ^ fyi17:46
fungineat!17:47
openstackgerritMatt McEuen proposed openstack/project-config master: New Project Request: hostconfig-operator  https://review.opendev.org/74519317:48
openstackgerritDonny Davis proposed openstack/project-config master: revert https://review.opendev.org/739605  https://review.opendev.org/74519517:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/project-config master: revert https://review.opendev.org/739605  https://review.opendev.org/74519518:17
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smcginnisIf anyone has a minute, looking at refining notifications in the #openstack-stable channel with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/744947/19:01
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clarkbsmcginnis: fwiw we don't have that automatically updating right now so even if we landed it that would require intervention. This is something I'm trying to correct with https://review.opendev.org/74479522:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/pbr master: Re-add ChangeLog  https://review.opendev.org/74471922:15
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