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| mordred | infra-root: https://github.com/wagoodman/dive is an interesting tool to poke around and look at docker images | 01:18 |
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| zbr | clarkb: let me know when you are back, i want to explain bindep *role* issue. | 11:31 |
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| fungi | noonedeadpunk: indeed, i'll prod it now | 13:13 |
| fungi | #status log restarted gerritbot after it hit a freenode ping timeout at 12:41:15 | 13:15 |
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| clarkb | zbr: reading scrollback in #zuul I think you and pabelanger may have sorted out that a bootstrap playbook is appropriate? | 16:44 |
| zbr | clarkb: not really, the virtualenv issue was more of a red herring in that case. | 16:45 |
| zbr | the real issue is that "bindep role" fails to install deps even if the bindep.txt is valid. | 16:46 |
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| clarkb | zbr: because bindep doesn't understand how to bootstrap additional repos | 16:46 |
| clarkb | this is true of PPAs or epel | 16:46 |
| clarkb | I think it is outside of the scope of bindeps current design to have it try and solve that, instead you should configure needed repos prior | 16:46 |
| zbr | clarkb: its not bindep job to do this, but installing first package does activate the repository | 16:46 |
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| zbr | true, outside the scope of bindep, but not outside the scope of bindep-role | 16:47 |
| zbr | if I use "yum install epel-release && yum install re2-devel" it works. | 16:47 |
| clarkb | except that will get you epel not using our mirrors | 16:47 |
| clarkb | and that is unreliable | 16:47 |
| zbr | mirror support was never in bindep role spec. one could question why not using http proxies, still lets try to find a solution. | 16:49 |
| clarkb | right something other than bindep should ensure that epel is configured prior to running the bindep role | 16:49 |
| clarkb | this is my point | 16:49 |
| clarkb | then you can properly configure mirrors or an http proxy or whatever else is appropriate for your CI system | 16:49 |
| zbr | from the UX point of view, a developer would list packages under bindep.txt -- especatatio is to get CI to install them | 16:49 |
| zbr | why? installing "epel-release" package is enabling this repository, this default system behavior. is not some new feature. | 16:50 |
| zbr | (the disabled epel is something else which needs to be sorted outside bindep, i do agree on that aspect) | 16:51 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: do you have time to discuss next step for the opensuse-15 nodes - or should I ask you later this week? | 16:51 |
| clarkb | because in at least one case (mine) I don't want to just enable that repo. I want to consume it from our mirrors because we know the upstream is unreliable | 16:51 |
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| clarkb | enabling epel in the manner you describe is bad for my system | 16:51 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I was going to ask you about that today too so today is fine | 16:51 |
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| zbr | i hope i do not annoy you too much but my impression was that our CI is aiming to test supported configuration of various distros. the default scenario is installing the package. | 16:53 |
| zbr | so your personal use case may be convenient for you but is not an official supported channel | 16:53 |
| clarkb | zbr: we try to strike a balance between reliability and defaults | 16:53 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:use-opensuse-15 is the list, we need to force-merge IMHO the two glance changes. I stacked Dirk's changes and suggest you abandon your two open ones in favor of dirk's. | 16:53 |
| zbr | (i know well why you want caching, not debating this) | 16:53 |
| zbr | clarkb: well said. is a trade-off | 16:53 |
| clarkb | zbr: and I don't think there is any problem with simply having something configure the needed repos prior to running bindep | 16:54 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: once the glance are in, it's devstack and tempest - and then infra ;) | 16:54 |
| clarkb | zbr: in my case that means configuring the mirrors. In your case it may mean using the defaults | 16:54 |
| clarkb | zbr: both should be fine for bindep | 16:54 |
| clarkb | there is no conflict | 16:54 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ok I can abandon mine then look at merging the glance changes | 16:54 |
| zbr | still the average developer knows to populate bindep.txt file, do we expect them to alter lots of CI jobs to make it work? | 16:55 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: we should check with glance folks but their PTL is not around right now | 16:55 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: so, that's all ;) | 16:55 |
| zbr | i was trying to find a solution where the developer is not forced to update zuul job definitions to make it work. the expectation is that zuul will load the bindep.txt file and install what is mentioned there.] | 16:55 |
| artom | o/ Possibly the wrong place to ask, but I have a question about the best place to define a nodeset that's going to be shared between different projects. So for example Nova and a tempest plugin (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691062/56/.zuul.yaml@3 specifically). Do we just just define the nodeset in one of those, and have the other use it? Or is there like a "central repository" for shared nodeset definitions? | 16:56 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: abandon https://review.opendev.org/#/c/690438/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/690435/ ? | 16:56 |
| zbr | can we do it? (me trying to avoid future work on other repos) | 16:56 |
| clarkb | zbr: if a developer runs bindep locally they won't get the behavior your are trying to bake into the bindep role | 16:56 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: yes, those two | 16:56 |
| clarkb | zbr: I don't think your proposal addresses that concern | 16:56 |
| clarkb | zbr: so you've still only solved it for the ci case | 16:57 |
| clarkb | and if we are going to solve a ci specific case imo we should do that for the ci case then which means mirrors etc | 16:57 |
| zbr | funny part is that we already have epel installed on the images, but disabled | 16:57 |
| clarkb | artom: there is a central repo that defines nodesets: openstack/openstack-zuul-jobs | 16:57 |
| AJaeger | artom: define it together with the job that needs it. | 16:57 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: in this specific case, I don't think we need it in openstack-zuul-jobs, the nodeset is very special IMHO | 16:58 |
| zbr | i could do "if epel-release inside bindep output, activate repo", but I guess you may not like it. | 16:58 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ya probably better in the job specific location | 16:58 |
| artom | clarkb, AJaeger, it is pretty niche, yeah. But two proposed patches have it: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679656/13/.zuul.yaml and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691062/56/.zuul.yaml | 16:58 |
| clarkb | zbr: what is the problem with having a "enable-epel" role run in jobs if you need epel? | 16:58 |
| artom | So just... stick in one of them, and whichever merges first wins? | 16:58 |
| clarkb | artom: I would only put it in one. Use depends-on | 17:00 |
| zbr | clarkb: extra maintainance, that's all. if we need that for very few jobs not a problem, but if that explodes, it may need altering lots of job definitions, that's all. | 17:00 |
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| zbr | probably we want a generic option to enable/add extra repositories, not a special one for epel? | 17:01 |
| artom | clarkb, understood, thanks! Also, do you have any idea what Sean's talking about when he mentions the new multi numa labels, that are presumably replacing the ubuntu-bionic-expanded one? | 17:01 |
| clarkb | zbr: ya and possible it falls under the existing rewrite of mirror configuration for jobs | 17:01 |
| AJaeger | artom: since nova job is inherited in whitebox put the nodeset to the *parent* which isi nova | 17:02 |
| zbr | likely I would create an ensure-repo that gets a list of repos to enable. 1st version would support only epel. | 17:02 |
| clarkb | mostly I want to avoid making a simple thing that doesn't actually solve what users need (and in my case that means configuring epel to use a mirror and not simply relying on the upstream) | 17:02 |
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| zbr | but at least we could build on top of it later. | 17:02 |
| artom | AJaeger, wait, nova job is inherited in whitebox? I... don't think so? :) At least not intentionally | 17:02 |
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| artom | I'll probably put it in whitebox - the Nova patch I have no idea when/if it'll ever merge | 17:02 |
| AJaeger | artom: nova is parent job, whitebox is child and thus inherits. | 17:02 |
| artom | Whereas whitebox it's just me and Sean, so we should get it in fairly quickly | 17:03 |
| AJaeger | artom: sorry, not parent job. Misread line | 17:03 |
| artom | AJaeger, but the whitebox job inherits from tempest-multinode-py3-full... | 17:03 |
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| AJaeger | artom: or name them differently... | 17:04 |
| zbr | clarkb: where is the mirror config for jobs? maybe i can alter this to enable epel optionally. | 17:04 |
| artom | AJaeger, yeah eh? It's not like we're consuming any additional resources by naming them differently. I just have this idea in my head that if 2 things are the same they should be called the same :) | 17:05 |
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| clarkb | zbr: https://opendev.org/zuul/zuul-jobs/src/branch/master/roles/configure-mirrors via https://opendev.org/opendev/base-jobs/src/branch/master/playbooks/base/pre.yaml#L35 | 17:05 |
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| AJaeger | artom: you can also: Add to whitebox with different name, merge, once nova merged: remove nodeset from whitebox and use common definition ;) | 17:06 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: looking at the 150 changes we need the glance ones in before the depends on for tempest and devstack are satisfied. I agree would be good to get someone to ack those glance changes first and that they likely need force merging because things have bitrotted | 17:07 |
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| artom | AJaeger, ah, I like that, thanks! | 17:08 |
| clarkb | rosmaita: can you take a look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692526/ and https://review.opendev.org/692035 ? you are on glance stable maint | 17:09 |
| rosmaita | clarkb: ack | 17:09 |
| artom | ... and I think I found the labels I was looking for in project-config/nodepool/nl02.openstack.org.yaml | 17:09 |
| artom | Thank you folks! | 17:10 |
| AJaeger | rosmaita: I propose that we force-merge them but we'd like to have your blessing ;) | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sorin Sbarnea proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: POC: allow configure-mirrors to enable extra repos https://review.opendev.org/693887 | 17:19 |
| rosmaita | AJaeger: ok, i hope abhishekk doesn't kill me, though | 17:23 |
| AJaeger | rosmaita: one is a backport, the other needs merging with master. So, happy to join the discussion ;) thanks! | 17:25 |
| rosmaita | actually, you have https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692526/ going into a feature branch -- i think this change is already at HEAD of master | 17:26 |
| rosmaita | so it shouldn't be a big deal | 17:26 |
| AJaeger | yes, it is at HEAD of master. | 17:27 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I guess we should be good to merge those two now? Then we can bug qa team to get tempest change in | 17:28 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: agreed | 17:29 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: I'll ask qa team... | 17:30 |
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| clarkb | ok done | 17:31 |
| AJaeger | thanks, clarkb | 17:31 |
| * AJaeger asked on #openstack-qa | 17:31 | |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: do we still need the openstack/project-config side change to remove that image too? | 17:35 |
| clarkb | from nodepool and grafana and all that | 17:36 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: yes, that is needed as well. Want to push it? | 17:36 |
| AJaeger | Not sure whether anything else is missing for cleanup... | 17:36 |
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| clarkb | ya I can work on that change though might not get it up until after today's meeting | 17:38 |
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| artom | Another ansible question if I may - when writing a role for one project, is it possible to include_role from another project? | 18:08 |
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| artom | Oh actually, 'copy-build-sshkey' is a Zuul role, so it should be available magically. Sorry for the noise. | 18:09 |
| clarkb | artom: yes, but you'll need to list that project as roles: entry in the job | 18:09 |
| clarkb | oh ya the zuul jobs roles should already be there | 18:10 |
| * artom is new to this whole world. What's not easy is telling the difference between OpenDev-specific stuff and Zuul stuff. | 18:11 | |
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| eharney | this cinder job looks like it's been stuck for some time: http://zuul.openstack.org/stream/625f41d621ed4d1c8438d0994faa947a?logfile=console.log | 19:58 |
| Shrews | oh, ooops. looks like i need to adjust my calendar for time change | 19:58 |
| eharney | i'm not sure what "TASK [get df disk usage]" does exactly, but maybe it got wedged on a broken NFS share? | 19:59 |
| clarkb | eharney: its a task that only runs against failed jobs to determine disk usage as we've found some jobs fail due to lack of disk and that is otherwise unlogged | 19:59 |
| clarkb | eharney: it uses the ansible raw module to run df which should be fairly resilient itself, but if df is failing due to broken filesystems that may explain it | 20:00 |
| clarkb | it should timeout, though I would've expected the timeout to be hit already | 20:00 |
| eharney | right, looks like it's been there since sunday? | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack/project-config master: Remove opensuse-150 https://review.opendev.org/693915 | 20:08 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ^ that look right? | 20:09 |
| clarkb | eharney: ya | 20:09 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: do we first need to go to 0 before we can remove? | 20:10 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: otherwise looks fine - but will download and double check once the rest is in. thanks! | 20:11 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I thought we did with the 423 removal but pretty sure we didn't | 20:12 |
| clarkb | I think nodepool will see the 150 nodes as leaked once we remove the config for it then clean them up automatically | 20:12 |
| clarkb | we only need to set things to zero when removing provider configs as the provider config is necessary to clean up resources. In this case it is just resource config not provider config we are cleaning up | 20:12 |
| clarkb | eharney: I am able to ssh onto the test node but manual run of df does seem to not be doing much | 20:14 |
| clarkb | eharney: stat("/opt/stack/data/cinder/mnt/896fb15da6036b68a917322e72ebfe57" is what strace says it is hanging on | 20:16 |
| eharney | clarkb: ok, so it is a stuck nfs share | 20:16 |
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| clarkb | localhost:/srv/nfs1 on /opt/stack/data/cinder/mnt/896fb15da6036b68a917322e72ebfe57 type nfs4 (rw,relatime,vers=4.1,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp6,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=::1,local_lock=none,addr=::1) | 20:17 |
| clarkb | mount seems to confirm that | 20:17 |
| clarkb | eharney: I can kill the ansible process which will force the job to report. However, if I do that the job node will get deleted | 20:18 |
| clarkb | eharney: is it worth putting a hold on that job first? | 20:18 |
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| eharney | clarkb: a hold for further examination you mean? | 20:18 |
| clarkb | yes | 20:19 |
| clarkb | I am not sure if "nfs is very broken" is the sort of thing the cinder team wants to investigate | 20:19 |
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| eharney | clarkb: not sure, it seems to be completing everywhere else, so i'm not sure that this particular failure is too interesting | 20:19 |
| clarkb | ok, if it happens again I guess we hold it there. For now I'll just kill the ansible process and force this job to complete | 20:19 |
| eharney | we could do something like change the mount options to "soft, intr" so that it would fail more gracefully if this continues to happen | 20:20 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: do we have other jobs in this state? Could there be a larger problem ? | 20:21 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: no that was the only one | 20:22 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: looking at zuul.opendev.org, this is the only one I see - so we should be good | 20:22 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: great | 20:22 |
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| eharney | thanks for taking a look | 20:23 |
| clarkb | we can also add timeouts directly to the tasks we run in that cleanup playbook to make them more resilient to this | 20:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed opendev/base-jobs master: Timeout cleanup playbook tasks https://review.opendev.org/693924 | 20:29 |
| clarkb | eharney: AJaeger ^ something like that | 20:29 |
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| ianw | clarkb: how come the job timeout doesn't apply? | 20:37 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691966/ is the next opensuse-150 change. Dependencies are approved and in gate now... | 20:40 |
| AJaeger | dependencies are the tempest and devstack changes | 20:40 |
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| smcginnis | There is a group called cinder-release that I am assuming was used before we had release automation. I don't see it referenced anywhere now. | 20:48 |
| smcginnis | https://review.opendev.org/#/admin/groups/144,members | 20:48 |
| smcginnis | Anyone know if that is correct, and if so, how we can get the group deleted? | 20:48 |
| fungi | ianw: post phase uses a separate timeout from pre/run, doesn't it? | 20:48 |
| fungi | smcginnis: we can't delete gerrit groups, but we can empty, rename and hide them | 20:49 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Do you think it's worth the effort? | 20:49 |
| smcginnis | I can just continue to ignore it. :) | 20:50 |
| fungi | that's mostly what we do | 20:50 |
| fungi | but you were asking if you could get the group deleted | 20:50 |
| smcginnis | Works for me. | 20:50 |
| ianw | fungi: yes, but it still should timeout eventually? | 20:53 |
| fungi | i don't know | 20:53 |
| fungi | maybe? | 20:53 |
| fungi | i guess we have a default timeout for it, yeah | 20:54 |
| fungi | infra-root: rackspace just opened an incident for a problem with the host ze01 is running on | 20:54 |
| ianw | from my reading of self.runAnsiblePlaybook i think we always have a timeout setup | 20:55 |
| fungi | we may see some job impact from that vm suddenly getting rebooted, but more likely it'll just have a bunch of cruft which needs to get cleaned up | 20:55 |
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| paladox | fungi the deletion of group is being worked on at the hackathon this week at least that was what the google doc said :) | 21:00 |
| fungi | paladox: ooh, neat! | 21:00 |
| paladox | https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/c/gerrit/+/129130 | 21:01 |
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| paladox | fungi we've also set a tentative date for our upgrade! NoteDB made it easier to test mediawiki/core operations/puppet since all i had to do was git mirror and then reindex! | 21:02 |
| paladox | (almost like i have db access) | 21:03 |
| fungi | that does indeed sound convenient | 21:03 |
| fungi | easier than mysqldump/source | 21:03 |
| paladox | yup | 21:03 |
| clarkb | ianw: my guess is bug in cleanup phase or with raw module breaking the watchdog maybe | 21:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Introduce manual setting of DIB_INIT_SYSTEM https://review.opendev.org/414179 | 22:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/project-config master: Add tripleo-operators-ansible https://review.opendev.org/693945 | 23:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/project-config master: Add tripleo-operators-ansible https://review.opendev.org/693945 | 23:28 |
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| mordred | clarkb, AJaeger, ianw: followup from infra meeting - the reason to not switch to podman across the board isn't anything to do with podman - it's that we need to add podman support to the container jobs. right now we don't have speculative container image support for podman | 23:31 |
| mordred | podman *itself* is fine | 23:31 |
| mordred | it's ok right now for review(-dev) because we're not really changing those images super frequently and can live with the need to land a change before taking the next step | 23:32 |
| ianw | mordred: do you have time to run me through how those speculative jobs might work for dib? | 23:35 |
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| mordred | ianw: speculative image jobs would really only come in to play for dib if we wind up testing building dib images based on container images that we also build. ... so other than that, I'm not sure I've given it much thought. | 23:40 |
| mordred | unless you mean something different ... | 23:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed zuul/nodepool master: [wip] move openstack testing to use containerised daemon https://review.opendev.org/693464 | 23:41 |
| ianw | mordred: what i mean is, how to get a dib change into a nodepool-builder container for testing in the functional jobs | 23:41 |
| mordred | AH | 23:42 |
| ianw | i'm looking at "assemble" | 23:42 |
| ianw | https://opendev.org/opendev/system-config/src/branch/master/docker/python-builder/scripts/assemble | 23:42 |
| ianw | IIRC, the Dockerfile in the nodepool source copies the nodepool source into /tmp/src in the image | 23:43 |
| ianw | and then "assemble" installs it? | 23:43 |
| mordred | yes, that's right. | 23:43 |
| mordred | (this is going to be a 'fun' problem) | 23:43 |
| mordred | ianw: this is so that we can test dib changes right? | 23:44 |
| ianw | yep, in the devstack functional test that starts up nodepool, builds the images and boots them | 23:45 |
| mordred | I think what we might want to do is make a testing specific image that is FROM opendevorg/nodepool-builder | 23:45 |
| mordred | and installs dib from source into it | 23:45 |
| ianw | the other trick is that that job pulls in glean & openstacksdk from source | 23:45 |
| mordred | then have the dib job build that image as step one | 23:45 |
| ianw | but one thing at a time :) | 23:46 |
| mordred | yeah | 23:46 |
| mordred | well | 23:46 |
| mordred | maybe we just make it an image that installs all three from source - since it's not a produciton image, we don't really need to worry about making it as optimized size-wise as we do for nodepool-builder itself | 23:46 |
| ianw | i guess nodepool-builder+openstack sdk need to be installed | 23:47 |
| ianw | for glean, we need the source tree, as the dib element installs from it | 23:47 |
| ianw | i think the glean case is just a matter of mapping in the zuul directory to the right place for the builder | 23:47 |
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| ianw | hrm, ok, so i think i got more an idea, we can just build an image in the functional test; we don't need to have a whole buildset repository setup to pull from | 23:53 |
| mordred | yeah. that said - we probably still want one - because we'd want to be able to depends-on nodepool changes and so we'd want speculative nodepool-builder images | 23:54 |
| mordred | but- as you said - one step at a time :) | 23:55 |
| ianw | yeah, right now i'd like to test 414179 which fixes running in containers without init systems (yes, we've known about the problem for a long time :) | 23:55 |
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