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| mpeterson | hi corvus, I addded the LIBS_FROM_GIT patch as a dependency to a patch that needs it, however it did not work as expected... Perhaps you want to use that patch to investigate if there is something missing? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555268/ | 08:27 |
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| ykarel | ttx, dhellmann hi | 14:36 |
| ykarel | ttx, dhellmann i want to know that is there some special requirement to run oslo-rootwrap-daemon | 14:36 |
| ykarel | i noticed oslo-rootwrap-daemon is performing very poor(> 20 times slower) when run in docker container | 14:38 |
| ykarel | please check when you are here | 14:40 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: some data points or reproducer would be helpful | 14:43 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, http://paste.openstack.org/show/718113/ | 14:44 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, i earlier tried to run manually cProfile and found the difference, then i found that oslo.rootwrap include benchmark | 14:45 |
| ykarel | and run that and it shows that there is a huge difference | 14:45 |
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| ykarel | dmsimard, cProfile runs on host https://review.rdoproject.org/paste/show/95/, on container: https://review.rdoproject.org/paste/show/96/ | 14:47 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, due to this ^^ services like neutron-l3-agent running rootwrap-daemon not performing well in container | 14:48 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: what container image ? version of docker ? kernel version ? lots of things can have an influence here | 14:48 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: with zuul v3 you could even stand up a fake temporary job that reproduces the issue on various distros :D | 14:49 |
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| dmsimard | hmm, benchmarking with zuul jobs might not be the best of ideas since we have different pools of hardware | 14:50 |
| ykarel | i tried centos:7, fedora:27 docker image, with Docker version 1.13.1, build 774336d/1.13.1 and kernel: 3.10.0-693.21.1.el7.x86_64 | 14:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rishabh Dave proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove the job manila-ui-dsvm to move it in in-tree https://review.openstack.org/557635 | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Rishabh Dave proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove the job manila-ui-dsvm to move it in in-tree https://review.openstack.org/557645 | 14:52 |
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| dmsimard | ykarel: let me try something... | 14:53 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, yes plese | 14:53 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: what does benchmark need sudo for ? | 14:54 |
| dmsimard | (can I run this on my laptop?) | 14:54 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, i ran with root | 14:54 |
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| dmsimard | I'll run it on a VM, hang on.. | 14:54 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, ack | 14:55 |
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| dmsimard | ykarel: are you running with selinux enabled ? | 14:58 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, in Permissive mode | 14:58 |
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| ykarel | dmsimard, also run container with --privileged=true to run netns benchmark | 15:05 |
| corvus | mpeterson: are some of those jobs based on the new-style 'devstack' job? | 15:06 |
| corvus | mpeterson: the networking-odl jobs look like they are based on 'legacy-dsvm-base', so the libs_from_git change won't affect it | 15:07 |
| clarkb | ykarel: is the rootwrap daemon running in the same contakner as the process needing escalated privs? | 15:07 |
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| clarkb | my initial hunch is that the ipc used if crossing namespaces experiemces a slowdown. Possibly due to needing to remap attributes across namespaces | 15:08 |
| mpeterson | corvus: the functional are native v3 based on devstack | 15:08 |
| ykarel | clarkb, yes | 15:08 |
| mpeterson | also our tempest and fullstack jobs are v3 native | 15:09 |
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| dmsimard | ykarel, clarkb: I'm working on getting a reliable and usable reproducer going (mostly because I'm curious) | 15:12 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, locally or creating a job | 15:13 |
| corvus | mpeterson: got it, thanks! | 15:13 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: a little bit of both? you'll see :p | 15:13 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, yeah :) | 15:13 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, in case you have not reproduced locally, here are the steps i use: http://paste.openstack.org/show/718114/ | 15:14 |
| ykarel | clarkb, ^^ | 15:15 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: a general tip when you're benchmarking things | 15:15 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: you want to only run the thing you're benchmarking -- and do it a lot and then average out the numbers | 15:16 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, Thanks will keep this in mind | 15:16 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, just now tried on Selinx Enforcing Fedora 4.15.7-200.fc26.x86_64, Docker version 1.13.1, build 584d391/1.13.1 and centos:7 docker container and see the same bad results | 15:17 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: also I suppose you're running with py2, correct ? | 15:18 |
| dmsimard | (ubuntu runs this on py3 by default) | 15:18 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, yes, centos has py2 only | 15:18 |
| ykarel | currently | 15:18 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: fedora has py3 though :) | 15:19 |
| ykarel | hmm :) | 15:19 |
| ykarel | can try that as well | 15:19 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: no need, I'll have something soon | 15:19 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, Ok Thanks | 15:19 |
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| clarkb | you might want to instrument rootwrap daemon too | 15:28 |
| dmsimard | instrument ? | 15:29 |
| clarkb | benchmark it directly not through the socket | 15:29 |
| clarkb | to help isolate where it is slow | 15:30 |
| dmsimard | ++ | 15:30 |
| * ykarel curious how to do that | 15:32 | |
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| clarkb | my guess is the tests for that tool hav the ability to bypass the socket and just run stuff directly | 15:34 |
| clarkb | but could be done other ways too | 15:34 |
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| corvus | mpeterson: from what i can tell, that job doesn't currently set LIBS_FROM_GIT at all, meaning that every library dependency is installed from pypi. by depending on my change, it's now using LIBS_FROM_GIT for the first time, and therefore installing from source. | 15:45 |
| corvus | mpeterson: here's the devstack conf without my change: http://logs.openstack.org/68/555268/9/check/networking-odl-tempest-carbon/15b4c43/controller/logs/local_conf.txt | 15:45 |
| corvus | mpeterson: and with: http://logs.openstack.org/68/555268/10/check/networking-odl-tempest-carbon/7ff59ac/controller/logs/local_conf.txt | 15:45 |
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| ykarel | clarkb, dmsimard with python3 Got far better results: see http://paste.openstack.org/show/718115/ | 15:45 |
| ykarel | nearly same as host, this should help further where to look for | 15:46 |
| corvus | mpeterson: is all of that expected, and the question now is "why didn't depending on my patch cause tests to pass?" | 15:46 |
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| mpeterson | corvus: right, I saw that it applied that patch. And indeed the question is that. Because if now it's installing from source, which I understand it includes the other Depends-On, then it should pass the tests | 15:49 |
| clarkb | corvus: mpeterson libs from git requires explicit support in devstack and its plugins for each lib too iirc | 15:50 |
| corvus | mpeterson: in order for a package added to LIBS_FROM_GIT to be effective, devstack (or a devstack plugin) has to add some logic to handle it. it's not automatic. looking at the console log, i don't see an instance of "use_library_from_git network-bgpvpn" | 15:50 |
| corvus | clarkb: ya ^ | 15:50 |
| corvus | mpeterson, clarkb: which is the fuction devstack defines to decide whether or not it should install something from source or git | 15:50 |
| corvus | mpeterson, clarkb: hound doesn't show anything promising either: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=use_library_from_git&i=nope&files=&repos= | 15:51 |
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| mpeterson | corvus: oh, I see | 15:53 |
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| mpeterson | corvus: and wouldn't make sense to make it easier to actually make pip_install or setup_develop to make that decision already? | 15:55 |
| mpeterson | corvus: or even provide a /etc/pip.conf that uses git.o.o as a repo before pypi? | 15:56 |
| mpeterson | obviously I understand that's beyond the scope of that patch | 15:57 |
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| clarkb | I think that choice was made because people using openstack install it from releases typically and so any install latest from master decsisions should be explicit and reasoned about? | 15:57 |
| clarkb | there was a big stop installing everything from latest source if is lib push at one time | 15:58 |
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| mpeterson | doesn't that contradict the idea of required-projects ? | 15:59 |
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| clarkb | sort of zuulv3 and required projects were nowhere near existing at that point | 16:00 |
| corvus | clarkb: no, but devstack-gate did | 16:01 |
| corvus | both things are necessary. you need to be able to test the library in development, and you need to make sure that you don't break users on release | 16:02 |
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| corvus | libs-from-git lets you switch between the two | 16:02 |
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| clarkb | I think the other concern may have been system deps for builds? | 16:04 |
| clarkb | I'm not sure if that ever actually manifested in a way that required more than the rpms/debs list getting installed and running pip against source dir | 16:05 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: for some reasons it's not working for me under py3 | 16:06 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, it's not running or you are getting poor results with py3? | 16:07 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/718116/ | 16:07 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, need to fix benchmark.py see http://paste.openstack.org/show/718115/ | 16:08 |
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| ykarel | line 58 in benchmark.py is not compatible with py3 | 16:09 |
| dmsimard | Ok. | 16:10 |
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| mpeterson | corvus, clarkb: I need to leave the office now. However I still believe the problem is bigger, because when you use setup_develop it will install the requirements.txt and the packages there could be under LIBS_FROM_GIT as well and then those would not be processed from the checked out version but from pip | 16:17 |
| mpeterson | corvus: in particular, and I'll this as a review to the patch tomorrow, your modifications to use_library_from_git would check only that $project_dir was installed from git but not the dependencies | 16:19 |
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| clarkb | mpeterson: I want to say there is some sort of contraints munging that does happen to make it work | 16:27 |
| clarkb | otherwise you are right constraints would override and win | 16:28 |
| fungi | _setup_package_with_constraints_edit() in inc/python | 16:29 |
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| fungi | mpeterson: clarkb: ^ | 16:33 |
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| Ret64 | #startmeeting | 16:39 |
| openstack | Ret64: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 16:39 |
| Ret64 | #startmeeting maintenance | 16:39 |
| openstack | Meeting started Sun Apr 1 16:39:53 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Ret64. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:39 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: maintenance)" | 16:39 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'maintenance' | 16:39 |
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| dmsimard | er | 16:44 |
| dmsimard | That person started a meeting and left | 16:44 |
| dmsimard | #endmeeting | 16:44 |
| dmsimard | infra-root: ^ ? | 16:44 |
| dmsimard | (Also note this could be a "vulnerability") | 16:45 |
| mpeterson | fungi: I didn’t understand what you meant by the “^” | 16:46 |
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| dmsimard | ykarel: a starting point: https://github.com/dmsimard/oslo.rootwrap-benchmark | 16:47 |
| dmsimard | ykarel: need to afk for a while | 16:48 |
| ykarel | dmsimard, ack so you were able to reproduce with py2 | 16:49 |
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| ykarel | dmsimard, so should i file a bug to track it | 16:50 |
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| dmsimard | ykarel: I haven't done much, just provided a way to get numbers on py3/py2 on centos/fedora/ubuntu to see if it can help narrow down where the issue could be | 17:07 |
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| dmsimard | Got to step away, see if you can use those and get some real numbers that we can compare in a digestable format ? | 17:09 |
| Ret64 | We are in the middle of maintenance | 17:09 |
| Ret64 | You cant be here | 17:09 |
| Ret64 | That is why I have the topic set to maintenance | 17:09 |
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| ykarel | dmsimard, sure will file a bug and try you repo to get some numbers tomorrow morning, It's late for me as well here | 17:12 |
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| fungi | #endmeeting | 17:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of OpenStack Developer and Community Infrastructure | docs http://docs.openstack.org/infra/ | bugs https://storyboard.openstack.org/ | source https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/ | channel logs http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/" | 17:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Sun Apr 1 17:40:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/maintenance/2018/maintenance.2018-04-01-16.39.html | 17:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/maintenance/2018/maintenance.2018-04-01-16.39.txt | 17:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/maintenance/2018/maintenance.2018-04-01-16.39.log.html | 17:40 |
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| dmsimard | fungi: not sure if you noticed my earlier ping but it looks like ill-intentioned users could exploit that. | 17:49 |
| dmsimard | Once upon a time there was a patch to whitelist meetbot channels | 17:50 |
| dmsimard | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246778/ | 17:51 |
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| fungi | dmsimard: yeah, it's a known possibility | 18:01 |
| tosky | dmsimard: but it wouldn't help in this case, as #rdo meetings are here | 18:02 |
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| tosky | s/here/there/ | 18:07 |
| tosky | ups, I mixed the channels - anyway, it's always possible to have unexpected meetings in some channels, even with whitelists | 18:08 |
| fungi | yeah, other partial solutions have also been proposed, like requiring chairs to register their nicks and identify with nickserv, or going so far as actually whitelisting chairs per channel | 18:10 |
| fungi | but if it's only an occasional vandal, it's a mild nuisance not worth inconveniencing everyone who want to use the bot in legitimate ways | 18:10 |
| fungi | especially since anyone can #endmeeting after an hour has elapsed | 18:11 |
| fungi | though i think i've gotten all the channels they hit ended and cleared out the bogus meeting logs | 18:12 |
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| fungi | i haven't removed the directory for those meeting logs though because i'm waiting to see if i might have missed some | 18:22 |
| fungi | but so far it's remained empty, so i _think_ i have | 18:22 |
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| dmsimard | clarkb: re: rootwrap from this morning, I got some numbers (and the fedora ones are weird) https://github.com/dmsimard/oslo.rootwrap-benchmark#oslorootwrap-benchmark | 21:14 |
| dmsimard | sent an email to ykarel since he's gone, I'm not going further down that rabbit hole but it's probably worth taking a look | 21:14 |
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