| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove legacy jobs from ansible-role-shade https://review.openstack.org/513968 | 00:09 |
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| inc0 | SamYaple: fyi mariadb worked for me | 00:56 |
| inc0 | fresh installation on fresh vms | 00:56 |
| inc0 | so it still looks like something with gates | 00:56 |
| SamYaple | inc0: and people in your channel | 00:59 |
| SamYaple | i bet you fix one, youll fix both | 00:59 |
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| inc0 | let's test mtu theory | 01:03 |
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| jlk | AJaeger: thanks. I've been distracted lately. | 02:02 |
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| Jeffrey4l | hi, can i load a project-level role in another project zuul's jobs definition? | 03:28 |
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| SamYaple | Jeffrey4l: what are you trying to achive? | 03:31 |
| Jeffrey4l | SamYaple, load kolla-ansible zuul tasks/roles/playbooks in kolla. then i can reuse what kolla-ansible already have. | 03:32 |
| SamYaple | yea taht should work | 03:32 |
| SamYaple | Jeffrey4l: job definitions are global, so you should be able to call a kolla-ansible job | 03:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | after read the zuulv3 jobs.roles i am think roles can only load galaxy and zuul's roles. | 03:33 |
| SamYaple | i dont think galaxy roles are implemented yet | 03:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | SamYaple, use the kolla-ansible job directly should not works. | 03:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. galarxy role is not implements. | 03:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | and only zuul's role can be loaded. | 03:34 |
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| SamYaple | Jeffrey4l: you can absolutely use kolla-ansible job in kolla project | 03:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | any other projects level roles can not be load, which i am want to archive. | 03:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | SamYaple, mind explain the details? | 03:35 |
| SamYaple | Jeffrey4l: https://review.openstack.org/513975 | 03:36 |
| SpamapS | So, I believe jobs defined in a trusted repo can be used. But if the jobs are defined in kolla-ansible then they can't be pulled in by some other repo. But I could be wrong. | 03:36 |
| SamYaple | SpamapS: you are wrong there, yea | 03:37 |
| SamYaple | SpamapS: trusted repos cant use untrusted jobs. untrusted can use trusted. untrusted can use untrusted | 03:37 |
| SpamapS | How do we protect the namespace then? | 03:37 |
| SamYaple | SpamapS: they are not project namespaced. its a global list | 03:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool. let me try this. | 03:38 |
| * SpamapS should know.. wrote some code and tests on this.. but inheritance is hard on brain | 03:38 | |
| SpamapS | SamYaple: seems like it's too easy for projects to create conflicting job names. | 03:38 |
| SamYaple | SpamapS: which zuul will reject | 03:38 |
| SamYaple | and yes you can do that | 03:38 |
| SamYaple | it cant merge though | 03:39 |
| SpamapS | SamYaple: so I can DoS you by redefining all your jobs. :( | 03:39 |
| SpamapS | oh I see | 03:39 |
| SamYaple | SpamapS: odyssey4me did that the other day lol | 03:39 |
| SpamapS | the gate is the key there | 03:39 |
| SamYaple | yup | 03:39 |
| SpamapS | so first come first serve method of namespace protection | 03:39 |
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| SamYaple | SpamapS: it has been recommended to prefix your jobs with your project name for politness | 03:39 |
| SamYaple | ive seen it in the docs too | 03:39 |
| SpamapS | I think I just have a personal bug where inheritance rules never sink in until I've broken them 10 times. | 03:41 |
| SamYaple | oh man. youre telling me. i just pretend they dont exist and keep it simple | 03:42 |
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| SamYaple | SpamapS: btw im not sure if "trusted repos can't use untrusted jobs" is even correct. i just know trusted repos can depends-on patches but thats it | 03:45 |
| SamYaple | since the list is global, i dont think there is a way to know what came from trusted or not built in | 03:45 |
| SpamapS | yeah that sounds right | 03:46 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: Fix on Speaker Filter Query https://review.openstack.org/513976 | 03:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: Fix on Speaker Filter Query https://review.openstack.org/513976 | 03:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove manila legacy jobs https://review.openstack.org/513075 | 05:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add ansible-role-k8s-(keystone|mariadb) to zuul.d https://review.openstack.org/513023 | 05:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Florath proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: [WIP] disk-usage refactoring https://review.openstack.org/512085 | 05:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Requirements propose_updates runs master only https://review.openstack.org/513618 | 06:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: devstack-plugin list : run on on master only https://review.openstack.org/513983 | 06:29 |
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| Jeffrey4l | for the node /etc/hosts, how the file is rendered? i saw "# BEGIN ANSIBLE GENERATED HOSTS" such part.. | 06:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add stats for executor and merger count https://review.openstack.org/513940 | 07:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Report initial pipeline changes under correct key https://review.openstack.org/513949 | 07:49 |
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| AJaeger | infra-root, zuul v3 parallelizes too good - we now get problems accessing zanata. I added some information to the etherpad. Question is whether we can somehow rate-limit the number of parallel running translation proposal jobs? | 08:00 |
| AJaeger | infra-root, one option: Move the few translation jobs for stable branches into periodic-stable and run this 30 mins later than periodic (currently 1 min later). But that's just a work around | 08:01 |
| AJaeger | other than that: Lot of successfull periodic runs and proposal jobs today! | 08:02 |
| AJaeger | Oh, just found semaphore, let me try that... | 08:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add translation semaphore https://review.openstack.org/514039 | 08:14 |
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| AJaeger | proposed fix ^ | 08:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix typo, it's branches https://review.openstack.org/514040 | 08:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove unused oslo.messaging playbooks https://review.openstack.org/514041 | 08:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Make multiple parent jobs returning same var undefined behavior https://review.openstack.org/514044 | 08:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add publish-install-guide https://review.openstack.org/514047 | 08:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Build native v3 install-guide docs https://review.openstack.org/514048 | 08:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Use end time based sorting for applying parent data https://review.openstack.org/514049 | 09:42 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: I think semaphore is a great option! | 09:56 |
| AJaeger | mordred: and so easy to do - was really happy to see that ;) | 09:56 |
| tobiash | yay, first semaphore usage in openstack deployment :) | 10:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Use native v3 publishing for project-team-guide https://review.openstack.org/514053 | 10:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove project-team-guide-publish https://review.openstack.org/514054 | 10:08 |
| AJaeger | tobiash: build-wheels uses it already | 10:08 |
| tobiash | ah, didn't know that | 10:08 |
| AJaeger | tobiash: didn't knew before today either ;) | 10:09 |
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| mordred | tonyb: removing tox_install.sh does not work | 10:13 |
| mordred | tonyb: I'm still investigating. the issue is that it puts both constraints and requirements.txt into tox's knowledge, so then tox decides to be smart and recreate the venv :( | 10:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Have tox-siblings edit requirements files instead https://review.openstack.org/514058 | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support https://review.openstack.org/508061 | 11:12 |
| mordred | tonyb: ^^ there is a possibility to update how tox-siblings works- we'll see if it works with the shade patch now | 11:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade master: WIP Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support https://review.openstack.org/508061 | 11:13 |
| mordred | changed it to not do the devstack jobs while we play | 11:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix doc typo https://review.openstack.org/513932 | 11:15 |
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| AJaeger | project-config-core, please review https://review.openstack.org/513983 - to not have another perioidic job propose content thta the team needs to abandon since this is not needed for stable branches | 11:18 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: lgtm | 11:20 |
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| mordred | tonyb, AJaeger: ^^ ok - that version is working now - have been testing with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508061 | 13:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove legacy jobs in Senlin https://review.openstack.org/512996 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Add ansible-role-k8s-(keystone|mariadb) to zuul.d https://review.openstack.org/513023 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Zuul-v3: add required projects for neutron-lib periodic jobs https://review.openstack.org/512811 | 15:03 |
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| AJaeger | project-config-core, please review https://review.openstack.org/514039 - to get us more stable translation jobs | 15:14 |
| AJaeger | team, do we have a policy on maximal timeout? I've seen twice today 10800s = 3 hours and find that a lot ;/ | 15:15 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger: We should look at what we had in v2 and compare, I know of some TripleO jobs that do last that long (in-place upgrades for example) | 15:16 |
| pabelanger | AJaeger: we do have a cap in zuulv3, I cannot remember what it is. But if any jobs go over that, zuul with -1 the patch as syntax error. But agree, we should be working with projects to reduce job runs where possible | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Persist iptables rules https://review.openstack.org/513943 | 15:19 |
| mordred | AJaeger, pabelanger, dmsimard: 10800 is from v2 (we had to fix a fewplaces where we didn't copy over the old timeout correctly) | 15:21 |
| mordred | but I agree - we should figure out how to not have 3 hour jobs, fix those, then lower the config max | 15:21 |
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| pabelanger | ++ | 15:22 |
| AJaeger | https://review.openstack.org/513892 and https://review.openstack.org/514065 are the two changs I noticed | 15:24 |
| AJaeger | indeed, there're quite a few with 10800 in openstack-zuul-jobs | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Add integration test coverage for iptables persistence https://review.openstack.org/513934 | 15:27 |
| AJaeger | checked zuul v3 source - 10800 is maximum | 15:27 |
| dmsimard | AJaeger, pabelanger, mordred: I think this all goes in the same bucket as limiting the amount of nodes, concurrency, etc. any one project might have at a given time. I guess there is no notion of quota ? | 15:28 |
| AJaeger | dmsimard: indeed there's none currently | 15:28 |
| dmsimard | Like we have some "hard" per-job limits for nodes, timeout for example | 15:28 |
| AJaeger | since we push now jobs to project teams, I fear we'll have some of that discussion in the future... | 15:29 |
| AJaeger | bbl, would appreciate reviews of https://review.openstack.org/514039 | 15:30 |
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| pabelanger | dmsimard: well, ideally we shouldn't need to implement that. we don't want to have to police jobs, just provide infrastructure and have it be shared | 15:31 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: quota systems are in place to avoid having to police jobs :) | 15:33 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: to prevent "noisy neighbors" in a multi-tenant environment | 15:33 |
| dmsimard | not much different than not having unlimited quotas in a public cloud environment | 15:33 |
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| pabelanger | sure, but i think the idea here is, we are a community of projects. It make sense to all work together and keep job run times lower, as it means for jobs an hour will be run. Spliting up in to a quota won't really solve that. I mean, it is something we could technically do, but hopefully we are far, far away from doing something like that | 15:37 |
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| dmsimard | pabelanger: I, too, would love everyone to be reasonable and do the right thing :) | 15:50 |
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| pabelanger | dmsimard: mind a +3 https://review.openstack.org/513968/ will remove some legacy jobs | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kravets proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: [ec2-api] Remove timeout for rally job https://review.openstack.org/514065 | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Florath proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Remove deletion of lock file for yum / rpm https://review.openstack.org/514079 | 16:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql master: Add subunit2sql CLI option to use non_subunit_name https://review.openstack.org/507192 | 16:29 |
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| SpamapS | dmsimard: pabelanger mordred IMO there are legitimate reasons to have > 3 hour jobs. But there isn't really a sustainable way to do that at OpenStack community scale. | 16:46 |
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| pabelanger | agree | 16:47 |
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| SpamapS | Perhaps timeout-per-nodeset would be one way. | 16:49 |
| SpamapS | or label maybe | 16:50 |
| SpamapS | like, have a label with a max of X and a longer timeout, and that one can be used sparingly and its use worked out between projects who need it. | 16:50 |
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| AJaeger | question to the expert: If I have a parent with irrelevant files, and the child is irrelevant files as well - will the child override the parent list of irrelevant files? | 17:30 |
| AJaeger | But with a variant, this will not happen - meaning, if I add additional irrelevant files in the project directly? | 17:31 |
| AJaeger | Also, can I see somehow the complete job defintion with all parameter? | 17:31 |
| * AJaeger read the great zuul v3 manual - and now understands that this happens with parents but not variants | 17:34 | |
| AJaeger | so, variant merges | 17:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Florath proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Add umount_safe function to get better debug info https://review.openstack.org/514081 | 17:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Florath proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Add umount_safe function to get better debug info https://review.openstack.org/514081 | 18:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: drop legacy aodh jobs https://review.openstack.org/512411 | 18:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: remove legacy aodh jobs https://review.openstack.org/512412 | 18:18 |
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| tobiash | AJaeger: tristanC's zuul web patches add a job view to the zuul dashboard which can list job details | 19:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Fix typo, it's branches https://review.openstack.org/514040 | 19:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Florath proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Add umount_safe function to get better debug info https://review.openstack.org/514081 | 19:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove legacy jobs from ansible-role-shade https://review.openstack.org/513968 | 19:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Add translation semaphore https://review.openstack.org/514039 | 21:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: [ec2-api] Remove timeout for rally job https://review.openstack.org/514065 | 21:52 |
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