| fungi | zaro: examples from the project-config repo | 00:00 |
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| zaro | any from the docs or jjb/tsts folder you can draw from? | 00:01 |
| zaro | *docs/jjb docs | 00:01 |
| zaro | yaml can be kinda sensitive, white space and all. | 00:01 |
| fungi | zaro: i haven't looked, was curious why it was working for other job templates in project-config but not this addition | 00:02 |
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| anteaya | Piet: cool | 00:02 |
| anteaya | Piet: not sure what use infra would have for the data, but you never know | 00:02 |
| zaro | will take a look after i fix this puppet gerrit plugin manifests | 00:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Enable network.service with systemd https://review.openstack.org/257230 | 00:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Make distro detection global https://review.openstack.org/257616 | 00:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Always log debug output to syslog https://review.openstack.org/257617 | 00:03 |
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| HenryG | isgerritslowforeveryoneorjustme.com | 00:05 |
| Piet | anteaya: I think it's more about several admin users in case I get hit by a bus | 00:06 |
| anteaya | HenryG: does it ever come back just you? | 00:06 |
| anteaya | Piet: good thinking | 00:06 |
| anteaya | Piet: or if you decide to take your beautiful dog for a walk | 00:06 |
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| anteaya | Piet: I like that much better for a visual | 00:06 |
| clarkb | it is not longer garbage collecting with 10% of its cpu time | 00:06 |
| anteaya | yay | 00:07 |
| Piet | anteaya: She's asleep behind my chair | 00:07 |
| anteaya | HenryG: gerrit was restarted earlier today: http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=25&rra_id=all | 00:07 |
| anteaya | Piet: awe | 00:07 |
| anteaya | Piet: I don't allow myself to miss my dog | 00:07 |
| anteaya | Piet: but I do like dog stories | 00:07 |
| clarkb | and seems to be about as responsive as normal for me | 00:07 |
| anteaya | HenryG: AsGoodAsItGets | 00:07 |
| anteaya | HenryG: have you thought about gertty at all? | 00:08 |
| HenryG | anteaya: I have tried it | 00:08 |
| Piet | OK - so here's a little more controversial "ask" for the infra team | 00:08 |
| anteaya | HenryG: well consider thinking about trying it | 00:08 |
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| anteaya | HenryG: several folks use it regularly and are quite happy with it | 00:09 |
| HenryG | anteaya: I may give it another go | 00:09 |
| anteaya | HenryG: report your findings | 00:09 |
| anteaya | Piet: ask away | 00:09 |
| anteaya | and dog stores | 00:09 |
| fungi | zaro: it keeps creating a job named "gate-bindep-fallback-bare-precise || bare-trusty" instead of "gate-bindep-fallback-ubuntu-trusty" no matter what i try, so i'm probably doing something silly and am too blind to see what, but i'm basically done looking at it for tonight so i'll pick it back up tomorrow and see what else i can come up with | 00:09 |
| anteaya | stories | 00:09 |
| clarkb | HenryG: are you using old change screen or new? | 00:09 |
| clarkb | I want to say someone said earlier that maybe new requires more calls or something I can test new if that is what you are using | 00:09 |
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| HenryG | clarkb: old | 00:10 |
| anteaya | sdague: said that | 00:10 |
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| anteaya | sdague: he shared a screenshot too which I just closed | 00:10 |
| clarkb | I am not noticing any slowness on slow | 00:10 |
| Piet | I'm starting to bring more designers into the OpenStack UX project that have a need for test environments to look at Horizon. | 00:10 |
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| clarkb | er on old | 00:10 |
| anteaya | Piet: yay deigners to fix horizon wooooo | 00:11 |
| fungi | Piet: interesting, i wonder if that aligns with the devstack demo site we're working on for the translations team http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/translation_check_site.html | 00:11 |
| anteaya | there is sdague's image: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6514884/screenshot_281.png | 00:11 |
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| clarkb | HenryG: any chance you can capture a netowrk dump using your browser's debug tooling so we can quantify the slowness? | 00:11 |
| fungi | basically they want a devstack/horizon deployed with latest translations somewhere they can review/test by hand | 00:11 |
| clarkb | oh thats what sdague had cool /me looks closer | 00:12 |
| anteaya | Piet: do your designers care what language they view horizon in? | 00:12 |
| clarkb | I am seeing things on the order of a couple hundred ms locally | 00:12 |
| Piet | Would the infra team consider deploying and hosting 4-5 test environments for my designers? It's getting near impossible to convince the partner companies and I get requests to view Horizon a few times a week. | 00:12 |
| fungi | anteaya: well, more wondering whether the request is for semi-static/long-running devstack deployments | 00:13 |
| anteaya | ah | 00:13 |
| * anteaya leans towards feeling the answer is yes | 00:13 | |
| fungi | of which the translations check site would be one example | 00:13 |
| Piet | fungi: yep | 00:13 |
| nibalizer | Piet: requests from whom? | 00:13 |
| HenryG | clarkb: I can try to get you that | 00:13 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: his designers | 00:13 |
| Piet | nibalizer: I have designers w Intel, HP and IBM | 00:14 |
| fungi | Piet: we're pretty terrible at running things that have to be built manually, but quite adept at running automation. if this is something that can be automated and you have/know someone who wants to work on the deployment automation it's likely doable | 00:14 |
| Piet | Fungi: Can you be more specific? Just so I sort of sound like I know what I'm talking about... | 00:15 |
| clarkb | HenryG: thanks, if we can narrow it down from that and possibly compare to sdague's experience might help us track down the problem | 00:15 |
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| Piet | fungi: Let me ask around | 00:16 |
| fungi | Piet: like if there's a modification the designer wants demoed which can be encapsulated into some normalized format and published somewhere, then it may be possible for us to build a devstack which incorporates that through some sort of self-service mechanism, we'd just need that mechanism to be identified or designed and built | 00:18 |
| nibalizer | Piet: it seems strange to me that the designers wouldn't just run the application? | 00:18 |
| nibalizer | what is the non-openstack workflow? | 00:18 |
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| clarkb | fungi: Piet I think the simplest way to do that would be to deploy horizon with devstack on the change and use xvfb to take rendered screenshots | 00:18 |
| fungi | i'm assuming designers who are disinterested in installing/running devstack on a virtual machine | 00:19 |
| clarkb | that fits into the existing feedback loop ewll | 00:19 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I don't know if you saw this earlier or if you still care, you had asked for a word that you could use to reference files that were not germane to a job that didn't come across in a derogetory fashion, I brainstormed here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Eu5meO0aLg | 00:19 |
| fungi | and need something that will do that for them instead | 00:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: Piet the best part of that is I thik we already have the necessary tools in place with horizons functional tests to make tha thappen | 00:19 |
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| fungi | yep, if they don't need it to be interactive or don't mind rerunning the job with some adjustments to the list of screenshots they wanted taken when it comes back lacking what they were looking for | 00:20 |
| HenryG | clarkb: it must be heizen-slowness. It goes away when I try to measure it. | 00:20 |
| clarkb | HenryG: woo | 00:21 |
| Piet | clarkb: What do you need from metro help? | 00:21 |
| fungi | though specifying the parameters necessary to test things like hover/tooltip behavior might be a bit cumbersome | 00:21 |
| clarkb | Piet: nothing, the work is already done | 00:21 |
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| clarkb | Piet: you push the code + a test and automagical screenshots happen | 00:21 |
| fungi | well, the jobs would need to be designed and written | 00:21 |
| anteaya | HenryG: keep measuring it | 00:21 |
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| Piet | Do you want us to go ahead and put up a spec? | 00:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial commit of codesearch docs https://review.openstack.org/257626 | 00:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: the job exists | 00:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: is what I am saying its there just have to use it | 00:22 |
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| fungi | clarkb: oh? we already have a horizon job that archives xvfb screen capture images along wit the logs? | 00:22 |
| clarkb | yes | 00:22 |
| fungi | awesome! | 00:22 |
| jeblair | anteaya: thanks, i will have to think about those -- none of them immediately say "this is a list of files that don't matter" | 00:23 |
| fungi | i knew it was using xvfb to test interactions in horizon, but didn't realize it provided captures | 00:23 |
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| clarkb | I just have to figure out were the job is | 00:23 |
| clarkb | but it deploys horizon for functional testing | 00:23 |
| anteaya | jeblair: yeah, fair | 00:23 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I thought filigree might be useful | 00:23 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I can try again another day | 00:23 |
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| clarkb | Piet: fungi gate-horizon-dsvm-integration is the job it has a publish-screenshots publisher | 00:25 |
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| clarkb | however looking at job runs I don't see any screenshots so it is possible that regressed | 00:27 |
| fungi | yeah, i just took a look at one which completed a few minutes ago, and don't see anything screen-capture-like | 00:27 |
| anteaya | jeblair: this is Basque for "useless files" Ezertarako fitxategiak | 00:27 |
| anteaya | jeblair: how about fitxategiak? | 00:28 |
| fungi | at least not mixed in with the published logs | 00:28 |
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| fungi | Piet: so anyway, it seems like this may already exist (or may need some minor fixes but is basically designed) if the workflow is sufficient for their needs: propose modification to horizon -> look at published screenshots an hour later | 00:30 |
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| fungi | if that's not a suitable workflow, then that at least gives us something to compare against | 00:30 |
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| Piet | fungi: In this case, we really just need 4-5 Horizon deployments for the designers to be able to login and look around. | 00:31 |
| fungi | Piet: so they don't need to be able to modify the deployed horizon, they just want to see what it looks like/how it reacts? | 00:32 |
| Piet | fungi: yep | 00:32 |
| fungi | if so, that's probably closer to the translations test site spec we already have | 00:32 |
| clarkb | why would you need 4-5 in that case? 1 should be sufficient right? | 00:33 |
| fungi | why 4-5 horizon deployments instead of sharing? | 00:33 |
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| fungi | er, what clarkb said | 00:33 |
| clarkb | either way we have two potential approaches to meet the need and one of currently up | 00:33 |
| Piet | fungi: Seriously, my designers are begging for this... | 00:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Move code search spec to Implemented https://review.openstack.org/257628 | 00:34 |
| pleia2 | docs are the last step, so woo ^ | 00:34 |
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| Piet | fungi: For example, I may need one to run a usability study. In that case, I don't want designers meddling around with around with it. | 00:34 |
| clarkb | Piet: horizon is multiuser | 00:35 |
| fungi | Piet: also, are you/they aware of http://trystack.openstack.org/ ? | 00:35 |
| fungi | curious whether that meets the basic request, and if not then knowing why would also help narrow down the specifics of what you're really asking for | 00:35 |
| Piet | Fungi: TryStack doesn't offer admin privileges. I also tend to make some changes to the quotas, images ,etc. to reflect reality. | 00:36 |
| anteaya | pleia2: woooo | 00:37 |
| clarkb | if you need admin priveleges the best thing is either going to be local deployment or some sort of CI feedback loop thing IMO | 00:37 |
| nibalizer | or just devstack | 00:37 |
| clarkb | I don't think we can offer hosted openstack where other people have admin access | 00:37 |
| nibalizer | vagrant + devstack is possible | 00:38 |
| nibalizer | Piet: read the final paragraph of this: https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/why-vagrant/ | 00:38 |
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| fungi | ahh, yeah if it's an openstack deployment with admin accounts you need, it may make more sense to have someone who does private openstack cloud management to donate some resources | 00:39 |
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| fungi | the problem is that it's very easy to break it, and we can't really offer to help fix it, and we don't have the right sorts of mechanisms in place to run long-term systems with admin access granted to people who aren't actually on our systems administration team | 00:41 |
| Piet | nibalizer: That seems to work | 00:41 |
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| pleia2 | fungi: I wonder, will we restrict the translation check site devstack instance to user only? | 00:41 |
| clarkb | pleia2: I had assumed so | 00:42 |
| pleia2 | work hasn't really gotten going on it, but I didn't quite think through how much power the admin account has I guess | 00:42 |
| fungi | pleia2: i thought that was the main thing they were asking for, yeah | 00:42 |
| clarkb | maybe that was bad assumption | 00:42 |
| Piet | nibalizer: In that case, would infra still host? | 00:42 |
| pleia2 | which reminds me, I should follow up with Daisy | 00:42 |
| fungi | pleia2: end-user-facing parts of horizon are where they've prioritized strings for translation i think | 00:42 |
| pleia2 | fungi: nods, so I guess it's ok to draw a line there for translators | 00:42 |
| nibalizer | Piet: vagrant can run on the designers laptop | 00:43 |
| fungi | Piet: no, the attractiveness of running devstack inside vagrant is that they can easily run it on their local systems without someone needing to host it for them | 00:43 |
| nibalizer | its a very common pattern to use vagrant to enable developers adn designers | 00:43 |
| zaro | clarkb: i want to call gerrit::plugin right after 'install-core-plugin', https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit/tree/manifests/init.pp#n637 | 00:43 |
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| zaro | clarkb: and order the run so it requires 'install-core-plugins'. is that possible? | 00:44 |
| fungi | also i thought sdague had something to easily run devstack under docker, though i don't recall what/where that was | 00:44 |
| clarkb | zaro: you cna't enforce right after instead you have to say A requires B requires C | 00:44 |
| Piet | nibalizer: For usability studies I would need to have someone login to Horizon remotely | 00:44 |
| fungi | Piet: it's "remotely" over their network loopback interface | 00:45 |
| crinkle | clarkb: do you have a plan for migrating wiki to trove? i don't see where it's setting up its db connection in puppet | 00:45 |
| nibalizer | im not sure what the usability studies are | 00:45 |
| Shrews | fungi: devstack-vagrant, but i had issues with it | 00:45 |
| fungi | Shrews: oh, it was vagrant, not docker? | 00:45 |
| Shrews | yah | 00:45 |
| * fungi thinks all those container technologies look the same | 00:46 | |
| Shrews | https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack-vagrant | 00:46 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: in ux a useability study is when you find volunteers who have never interacted with the site/app to interact, and you track eye movements and behaviour | 00:46 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: to see where they choose to look for answers | 00:46 |
| clarkb | crinkle: no I was htinking more just very carefully update puppet-mysql there after updating the module | 00:46 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: since putting something where someone looks makes the user happy since they can find it | 00:46 |
| clarkb | crinkle: moving to trove also works if we figure the config for that out | 00:46 |
| clarkb | its probbaly in the php to be default to local mysql | 00:46 |
| crinkle | clarkb: yeah there is an install.php that takes db params | 00:47 |
| zaro | clarkb: yeah, i guess that's what i want. i want all of the same requires to install non-core plugins as core plugins. i don't know how to set the requiers when calling a class. can you refer me to an example? | 00:47 |
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| anteaya | fungi: vagrant isn't a container, it is a ruby friendly front end to virtualbox | 00:47 |
| clarkb | zaro: its require => Class['nameofclass'] | 00:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Filter bugs based on regex https://review.openstack.org/257633 | 00:48 |
| Piet | nibalizer: For example, we wanted to test the new Launch Instance workflow with 8-10 users to identify any issues with the UI. In that case, we ran a remote unmoderated usability study where users logged into horizon and were asked to complete a series of tasks that were provided in Google forms. | 00:48 |
| fungi | anteaya: oh! indeed that's not a container | 00:48 |
| jroll | anteaya: virtualbox and other virtualization things, including clouds | 00:48 |
| anteaya | jroll: ah thank you | 00:48 |
| crinkle | clarkb: paste was moving to trove, correct? or just upgrading carefully on that too? | 00:48 |
| jroll | it's meant to be an abstraction layer, but it's super leaky | 00:48 |
| fungi | anteaya: Piet: got it, so the usability study has horizon behind some sort of behavior tracking proxy that records and analyzes their activities for further study? | 00:48 |
| clarkb | crinkle: I was thinking ust upgrading carefully since trove had performance issues (which may have been fixed) | 00:48 |
| anteaya | fungi: or they answer questions in forms, as Piet outlined | 00:49 |
| crinkle | clarkb: oh i see | 00:49 |
| clarkb | Piet: anteaya wouldn't trystack work for that? | 00:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Filter bugs based on regex https://review.openstack.org/257635 | 00:49 |
| jroll | a/b 91 | 00:49 |
| anteaya | tracking eye movements and stuff would need a lab set up for it | 00:49 |
| jroll | oops | 00:49 |
| fungi | crinkle: paste moved to trove, then back to local mysql before we realized the reason trove was being terrible was connection timeout defaults are really low in rackspace's trove, and now we have a fix for that | 00:49 |
| clarkb | crinkle: basically stop puppet, make db backup, run puppet with newer module | 00:49 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: could we restart the gearman client service when you think it's ok? that's for having puppet jobs in openstac-health dasbhboard | 00:49 |
| EmilienM | mtreinish: ^ | 00:49 |
| Piet | fungi: It depend on the study. In that case, they were able to leave comments and rate their experience after each task. Very low tech | 00:50 |
| clarkb | EmilienM: when the job queue falls to 0 | 00:50 |
| anteaya | jroll: awesome, didn't know vagrant leaked, what does it leak? just used it a bit, was happy for my needs | 00:50 |
| fungi | crinkle: so it should be trivial to un-revert the puppet change which originally moved it to trove, plus a little downtime to dump/source the local db again | 00:50 |
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| EmilienM | clarkb: when does it happen? | 00:50 |
| EmilienM | is it manual? | 00:50 |
| clarkb | EmilienM: its manual | 00:50 |
| jroll | anteaya: some of the provider-specific details, like if you want the same vagrantfile to work on vmware and virtualbox you'll end up with some duplicate configuration | 00:50 |
| jroll | anteaya: the abstraction is leaky, not the application :) | 00:51 |
| crinkle | fungi: clarkb okay, i'll push a revert for paste and an upgrade for wiki | 00:51 |
| anteaya | jroll: ah I see | 00:51 |
| clarkb | crinkle: mostly just want to stop services, db backup, run puppet, start services, test, and go from there process controlled | 00:51 |
| anteaya | jroll: okay I can see what you mean, still works fine for the user | 00:52 |
| jroll | anteaya: yeah, assuming the vagrantfile author configured the user's provider | 00:52 |
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| fungi | Piet: so anyway, it sounds like we'd need a much deeper infra discussion to determine if we're drawing a hard line at hosting long-running devstack instances with horizon admin access granted to arbitrary people. an alternative is that one of our member companies who has a public cloud business would be willing to provide you with however many virtual machine you need and you could just install | 00:52 |
| fungi | devstack on those (or find someone who wants to do that) manually | 00:52 |
| anteaya | jroll: okay | 00:52 |
| crinkle | clarkb: right, i'm trying to work out the puppet bits, since it will be a different api, but i can let you do that if you'd prefer | 00:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: or use trystack and get 95% of what you need for free | 00:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: worry about the 5% later when it becomes an issue | 00:53 |
| anteaya | Piet: this is what it looks like when we are trying to help you get what you need, just so you know | 00:53 |
| Piet | Fungi: Yep. I was thinking about chatting with someone at RackSpace tomorrow | 00:53 |
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| fungi | right, that was one of the reasons i was suggesting trystack is that you could get virtual machines there and install devstack on them, then give the study participants horizon admin access to those devstack deployments | 00:54 |
| Piet | clarkb: fungi: TryStack doesn't get us 20 percent of the way there. | 00:54 |
| clarkb | Piet: can you expand on why? | 00:54 |
| clarkb | its a horizon that is publicly accessible that you can run studies against? | 00:55 |
| clarkb | forthe other use case run devstack on your local development machine using vagrant or whatever | 00:55 |
| fungi | Piet: in the openstack-on-openstack sense it probably could. i assume you mean the interface trystack presents isn't what you want to study, but that's not what we're suggesting anyway | 00:55 |
| Piet | Clarke: Because a significant amount of our work is on operator/admin experience | 00:55 |
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| clarkb | Piet: ok, thats trickier bceause that implies trust | 00:56 |
| fungi | there are parallels in our continuous integration testing. for example rackspace, hpcloud, ovh and others provide us with cloud resources but we're not testing their deployment of openstack. we deploy openstack inside virtual machines within those clouds so we can test whatever openstack we want | 00:57 |
| clarkb | and I am not sure infr ais ready to trust arbitrary users with admin on long running services | 00:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add #openstack-dragonflow to channel logging https://review.openstack.org/249643 | 00:57 |
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| Piet | clarkb: fungi: even the end user studies tend to need some changes to Horizon such as adding at least fifty images. Plus, users see all the instances that have been added my other folks playing around with TryStack | 00:58 |
| clarkb | also fwiw I would expect most admin/operators to not use horizon to manage their clouds | 00:58 |
| clarkb | does omfra cloud even have horizon deployed? | 00:58 |
| nibalizer | no | 00:58 |
| fungi | Piet: not suggesting giving them access to trystack. suggesting giving them access to devstack... you just happen to be running your devstack inside virtual machines you got from trystack | 00:58 |
| nibalizer | also, plz no more scope on omfra cloud | 00:58 |
| nibalizer | plz | 00:58 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: haha :) | 00:59 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: speaking of how is that networking? | 00:59 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: crinkle https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257590/ needs some votes | 00:59 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: oh thats what you meant by linted | 00:59 |
| nibalizer | Piet: i think your designers should use vagrant to check out horizon | 00:59 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: i still think the subnet needs to be deleted and recreated | 00:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Bump ironic timeout way up https://review.openstack.org/257637 | 00:59 |
| Piet | Let me look into it | 00:59 |
| jroll | ^ this should help with ironic gate timeouts some, while we work on the real issue | 01:00 |
| nibalizer | big rmote usability studies is not something we should solve with the same solution | 01:00 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya that is another approach (I am not familiar with the resources trystack provides to know if that is possible though) | 01:00 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: do you want me to change the patch? | 01:00 |
| anteaya | crinkle: why does ensure => absent need to be the first line of that stanza? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257590/1..2/manifests/controller.pp | 01:00 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: you can haz votes | 01:00 |
| nibalizer | i.e add an absent or something? | 01:00 |
| clarkb | anteaya: because puppet lint says so | 01:00 |
| anteaya | oh | 01:00 |
| anteaya | all hail the linter | 01:00 |
| fungi | clarkb: agreed. if the virtual machines in trystack aren't sufficient for running devstack inside of, then getting rackspace or someone like that to provide a gratis account to run larger virtual machines would be the next step | 01:01 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: ineed | 01:01 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: well you could just manually delete it if you want | 01:01 |
| clarkb | *indeed | 01:01 |
| crinkle | anteaya: it's part of the style guide, it's supposed to be more readable | 01:02 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: you didn't like my commit message suggestion? | 01:02 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: oh I just forgot it | 01:02 |
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| anteaya | crinkle: ah thanks, the style guide can't be wrong | 01:02 |
| clarkb | crinkle: oh I see you cna't just update a subnets network with puppet? | 01:02 |
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| nibalizer | its taking hours to get through check (because I think we're short on centos7 nodes?) so I'd rather not respin | 01:02 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: 'tis a nit, just wondering if you disagreed | 01:02 |
| clarkb | I am fine with a manual delete | 01:02 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: that's fine | 01:02 |
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| crinkle | clarkb: only because the neutron client doesn't support subnet-update of the network name | 01:03 |
| crinkle | clarkb: in general it does support updating | 01:03 |
| clarkb | crinkle: gotcha | 01:04 |
| fungi | clarkb: Piet: another thought, this may align with the needs of the "certified openstack administrator" working group, since they plan on finding somewhere to host devstack (or similar) sandboxes to use for interactive administrative test labs. though i don't think they've worked out the logistics yet | 01:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: you don't have to make your own to get certified? | 01:05 |
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| clarkb | Piet: from where I stand I a msaying infra won't get in tha tbusiness | 01:09 |
| clarkb | happy to work with people to figure out how to do it, but I am not sure thats something we can reasonable do | 01:09 |
| clarkb | I just want to make sure we are framing the discussion properly and not talking past each other | 01:10 |
| anteaya | Piet: I think the first step is to see if we can get Piet and the designer team using vagrant | 01:11 |
| anteaya | anyone disagree? | 01:11 |
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| nibalizer | crinkle: so +2 if I manually delete the network? | 01:11 |
| anteaya | I think we have to break this into pieces | 01:11 |
| clarkb | anteaya: yes I agree | 01:12 |
| clarkb | and that seems like a good first step teaching people to fish and all that | 01:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Make distro detection global https://review.openstack.org/257616 | 01:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Always log debug output to syslog https://review.openstack.org/257617 | 01:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Enable network.service with systemd https://review.openstack.org/257230 | 01:12 |
| Piet | clarkb: No worries...so got talk to the "certified OpenStack admin" working group? | 01:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Fixup some logging issues https://review.openstack.org/257119 | 01:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Update documentation https://review.openstack.org/257639 | 01:12 |
| anteaya | Piet: so it would mean a learning curve for your team, but we would do our best to support the learning | 01:12 |
| nibalizer | if these designers are at intel, ibm, and hp, there are resources within those organizations to get people up to speed with vagrant | 01:12 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: how about just manually delete both the subnet and the network, then you don't need the ensure absent in the module | 01:13 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: wonderful | 01:13 |
| nibalizer | ok | 01:13 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: ok | 01:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Rename network to 'public' https://review.openstack.org/257590 | 01:13 |
| Piet | Anteaya: Also wondering whether it makes sense to just approach someone with a public cloud | 01:13 |
| nibalizer | deleting the network now | 01:13 |
| anteaya | Piet: approach by all means approach | 01:14 |
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| anteaya | Piet: just letting you know we want you to succeed and are willing to do what we can to support your success | 01:14 |
| anteaya | and you have a fall back plan if your response is no | 01:15 |
| anteaya | but by all means have the conversation | 01:15 |
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| anteaya | my cat has comandeered my telephone table | 01:17 |
| Piet | I'll look around...this is probably No. 1 or 2 on my list of priorities because it tends to be a blocker for the designers | 01:17 |
| anteaya | the telephone is now on the floor | 01:17 |
| fungi | clarkb: sorry, the freenode server i was on seems to have bounced. yep, makes sense. we've focused our services on running things with basically nobody as admins (or those with actual admin access exercising it as infrequently as possible) and instead driving it all through public code review. manual administration of a bunch of openstack deployments with random admin access on them is not something | 01:17 |
| fungi | we've optimized for | 01:17 |
| anteaya | Piet: yup, keep in mind it will take a bit of time to get everyone comfy with vagrant | 01:18 |
| anteaya | Piet: depending on the system and each individual it could take 5 minutes or 3 days per person | 01:18 |
| Piet | K | 01:18 |
| Piet | Still thinking public cloud... | 01:18 |
| fungi | also worth noting that devstack isn't suited to be a long-running service (per its maintainers), and when it breaks you get to keep both pieces | 01:19 |
| anteaya | Piet: yup, not insulted if you get your needs addressed via public cloud | 01:19 |
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| fungi | generally devstack would need to be regularly redeployed from scratch (and also on reboot) to be especially maintainable | 01:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade mysql module to 3.6.1 https://review.openstack.org/257640 | 01:19 |
| crinkle | clarkb: ^ i think that's everything that needs to change in puppet | 01:20 |
| clarkb | crinkle: ^I would wip that until we are ready to merge, its looking like tomorrow is bad day for me as is wednesday (gerrit and optomitrist) maybe should for thursday? | 01:20 |
| clarkb | s/should/shoot/ | 01:20 |
| nibalizer | ya tomorrow is the upstream puppet virtual sprint thing | 01:20 |
| clarkb | but then we can do paste first then wiki and just hand hold it | 01:21 |
| nibalizer | so i'll be not-really-here | 01:21 |
| fungi | crinkle: if tomorrow wasn't the "day of all meetings" i'd volunteer to do the migration bit, but no can do | 01:21 |
| nibalizer | but it is a great time to get your pet bug in puppet looked at | 01:21 |
| crinkle | clarkb: WIP'd | 01:21 |
| clarkb | I have to go cut down a tree and plant it in my living room with my recently arrived parents | 01:21 |
| crinkle | fungi: i don't have a timeline on this, just hoping to help out with the puppet parts | 01:21 |
| crinkle | it can happen whenever | 01:21 |
| fungi | crinkle: it's awesome--much appreciated! | 01:21 |
| clarkb | and a morning of meetings first | 01:22 |
| anteaya | clarkb: ha ha ha, when did they get there? | 01:22 |
| clarkb | anteaya: in a couple hours | 01:22 |
| anteaya | clarkb: cool | 01:22 |
| clarkb | so they will be recently arrived tomorrow :) | 01:22 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: ha ha ha | 01:22 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I hope they arrive safely | 01:22 |
| clarkb | its their first winter trip in almost 30 years I think | 01:22 |
| fungi | assuming we don't spend the rest of the week dealing with fallout from the gerrit upgrade, i can maybe look at migrating paste's database thursday or friday | 01:22 |
| anteaya | clarkb: wow | 01:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think we will just upgrade the module | 01:22 |
| clarkb | to start at least | 01:23 |
| fungi | k | 01:23 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: crinkle fungi this needs re-reivews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257590/ | 01:23 |
| nibalizer | hoping to land and apply that tonight | 01:23 |
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| fungi | i'm more excited about the bit where we get back to having the lodgeit db in trove so that we can swap out the server with one running trusty fairly easily | 01:23 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: there's something to be said for teaching nodepool to support "vanilla openstack" but if this is the quickest route for now i'm cool with it | 01:25 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: still not liking my commit message fix, hahaha | 01:25 |
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| fungi | is "provider-net" a neutron default string, or something chosen in the openstack-puppet modules? | 01:26 |
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| nibalizer | fungi: well its either this, or a code change in nodepool | 01:26 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: oh sorry, i keep forgetting | 01:27 |
| nibalizer | if we do another patchset i will fix it | 01:27 |
| fungi | nibalizer: yep. just didn't know if the "provider-net" there was reflecting a default somewhere in openstack or whether it was just a string somebody picked when writing puppet-infracloud | 01:27 |
| clarkb | fungi: its a string we picked | 01:27 |
| clarkb | network names are 100% arbitrary in neutron | 01:28 |
| fungi | ahh, in that case i agree we should pick again | 01:28 |
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| fungi | once more, with feeling | 01:28 |
| clarkb | (which is another reason that the default security group rules list is not configurable for ocnsistent UX makes no sense to me) | 01:28 |
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| clarkb | things like use of dhcp and public IP inference are not consistent | 01:29 |
| clarkb | but default security group rules must be (and the defaults are bad) | 01:29 |
| fungi | you can pick whatever default network name you want, but not the contents of your security group defaults | 01:29 |
| fungi | software for bikesheds | 01:29 |
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| clarkb | but ya if we make it "public" nodepool will be happy | 01:29 |
| fungi | network names have a lot more marketing power than default security groups anyway | 01:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: did you get anywhere iwth raw -> vhd conversion using qemu-img? | 01:30 |
| clarkb | it just seems odd to pick one thing that is actually likely to need lcoal input to not be configurable but things that should be the same everywhere are configurable | 01:31 |
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| fungi | to me as well | 01:36 |
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| rajinir_ | rajinir | 01:37 |
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| anteaya | try typing `/nick rajinir` | 01:38 |
| anteaya | the / has to be the first character, no space | 01:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Micucci proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Added eavesdrop and statusbot for openstack-zephyr https://review.openstack.org/254489 | 01:42 |
| rajinir | Nodepool is launching the instance in CI Cloud, but times out before it can ssh. Is it not able to ssh or is it not waiting long enough? | 01:42 |
| asselin_ | rajinir, try to manually build an instance using the same template | 01:43 |
| asselin_ | just usingthe cloud api/ui | 01:43 |
| kitsuneninetails | Can someone please look and submit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254489/? It's a very simple addition of a channel to the eavesdrop bot list, and it's been sitting in review hell for over a week, it's been +2d and verified multiple times, but because no one is submitting it, it keeps getting overwritten by other changes and I have to keep rebasing (5 times so far). I would very much appreciate someone with merge | 01:46 |
| kitsuneninetails | permissions just going in and pushing it through. Thank you so much!! | 01:46 |
| kitsuneninetails | Also, that file is a pain to rebase because of that one HUGE line of all the channels. I was wondering if there was a way to easily do multi-line strings in puppet to get rid of this problem? | 01:46 |
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| rajinir | asselin: Able to manually buildan instance using the cloud ui | 01:47 |
| clarkb | kitsuneninetails: once we have in tree public hiera it becomes easier, but otherwise puppet's DSL isn't so great for strings like that | 01:47 |
| asselin_ | rajinir, so what is the nodepool error? | 01:48 |
| * clarkb checks calendar for meetings | 01:48 | |
| clarkb | pleia2: I see no meetings for the rest of today, that look right to you? | 01:49 |
| clarkb | I can go ahead and just approve that change if so | 01:49 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: I think there was one around 0300 or so, but yes, go | 01:49 |
| pleia2 | yeah, next is at 0300, but it'll merge before then | 01:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: switch to f23 https://review.openstack.org/253561 | 01:49 |
| pleia2 | (I checked earlier for another eavesdrop change) | 01:50 |
| rajinir | asselin: Exception: Timeout waiting for ssh access | 01:50 |
| asselin_ | rajinir, can you manually ssh? | 01:50 |
| rajinir | asselin: Haven't tried manual ssh. Ping works. Not sure what the credentials are to the image? | 01:51 |
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| rajinir | asselin: ssh works fine for an instance with cirros image without issues | 01:52 |
| asselin_ | rajinir, it should be the jenkins user or ubuntu, using the ssh key you told nodepool to use | 01:52 |
| kitsuneninetails | clarkb: Yeah, I was afraid of that. I tried many Google search permutations and though it's apparently easy in Ruby, it's not very doable in Puppet... | 01:53 |
| rajinir | asselin: in the /etc/puppet/enviroments/common.yaml or project-config/nodepool/nodepool.yaml? | 01:54 |
| pleia2 | ah, hasn't passed checks yet, after the 0300 meeting window we have another nice chunk of meeting free time too | 01:54 |
| pleia2 | kitsuneninetails: thanks for your patience, trouble is we can only merge these changes when no meetings are happening since it restarts the bot and the bot doesn't preserve state | 01:54 |
| anteaya | I have one at 0800 | 01:54 |
| anteaya | which speaking of, I should get to bed | 01:54 |
| pleia2 | yeah, next after 0300 is at 0700 | 01:54 |
| asselin_ | rajinir, it should be the same | 01:54 |
| pleia2 | then things pick up again | 01:55 |
| anteaya | cool | 01:55 |
| kitsuneninetails | pleia2 Ahhh, I see the trouble. Yeah, that makes sense. | 01:55 |
| kitsuneninetails | Thanks for taking a look for me :) | 01:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Update documentation https://review.openstack.org/257639 | 01:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Always log debug output to syslog https://review.openstack.org/257617 | 01:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Enable network.service with systemd https://review.openstack.org/257230 | 01:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: pin all unit jobs to bundle 1.10.6 https://review.openstack.org/257646 | 01:58 |
| EmilienM | anteaya: I missed that one :( ^ | 01:58 |
| rajinir | asselin_: thanks, will debug that | 01:59 |
| anteaya | EmilienM: +2 from me | 01:59 |
| EmilienM | anteaya: thanks a lot | 02:00 |
| EmilienM | and sorry for direct ping | 02:00 |
| anteaya | I keep losing power due to wind | 02:00 |
| EmilienM | it's just our CI is still blocked | 02:00 |
| anteaya | EmilienM: welcome, no problem | 02:00 |
| anteaya | I understand | 02:00 |
| asselin_ | rajinir, these instructions are helpful to confirm what's in your image: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/nodepool/elements/README.rst#n43 | 02:00 |
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| anteaya | I hope I have a dsl connection when it comes time to chair the meeting | 02:00 |
| anteaya | g'night | 02:00 |
| EmilienM | if anyone who has 1 minute, please look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257646/ - have a good night/day | 02:00 |
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| rajinir | asselin_: great, thank you again | 02:03 |
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| asselin_ | rajinir, when you get a chance, please review this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254326/2 | 02:07 |
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| tonyb | is jenkins02 awol? I'm trying to get to https://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/project-team-guide-publish/lastBuild/console and I'm not getting any data? | 02:11 |
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| tonyb | I can see the same data for jenkins{01,0[3-7]} | 02:12 |
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| clarkb | would not surprise me, the thread leak issue is persistent despite our attempts at thwarting it | 02:12 |
| tonyb | clarkb: ah okay. | 02:13 |
| * clarkb is still waiting for / to open | 02:13 | |
| rajinir | asselin_: good to know. will review | 02:13 |
| tonyb | clarkb: okay. | 02:13 |
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| tonyb | clarkb: I finally got a proxyerror, "Reason: Error reading from remote server" | 02:17 |
| clarkb | me too, will have to look tomorrow | 02:18 |
| tonyb | clarkb: ok thanks. | 02:18 |
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| pleia2 | kitsuneninetails: there you go ^^ our system will restart the bots in a bit and they will join your channel then | 04:11 |
| pleia2 | I'm off to dinner now | 04:11 |
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| ramineni | could someone please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250598/7? | 04:55 |
| ramineni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250598/7 | 04:55 |
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| Thelo | Hi all, does anyone have a clean tutorial of how to configure tempest? | 07:16 |
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| AJaeger | Thelo, better ask on #openstack-qa | 07:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add python-constraints-jobs to networking-ofagent as an experimental https://review.openstack.org/256163 | 07:18 |
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| stevemar | uh oh, i think broke hound | 07:21 |
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| stevemar | codesearch.openstack.org is 503'ing for me now :( | 07:21 |
| stevemar | oh its back now | 07:22 |
| stevemar | let's see if i can repeat it ... | 07:22 |
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| AJaeger | stevemar: don't ;) | 07:27 |
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| Thelo | Thanks I will | 07:31 |
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| stevemar | AJaeger: i tried anyway, no luck :) | 07:40 |
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| tangchen | Hi all, http://stackalytics.com/ service is down. | 08:59 |
| tangchen | I got a 500 when I access to it. | 08:59 |
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| yolanda | tangchen, you may need stackalytics.openstack.org? | 09:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Evgeniy L proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add statusbot/eavesdrop to #openstack-bareon channel https://review.openstack.org/255804 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix filter for puppet-openstackci https://review.openstack.org/257029 | 09:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove icehouse-dibtest special handling https://review.openstack.org/256930 | 09:09 |
| ramineni | yolanda: could you please review https://review.openstack.org/250598 | 09:09 |
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| yolanda | ramineni, yes, it's on my review queue | 09:10 |
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| ramineni | yolanda: thanks :) | 09:10 |
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| tangchen | yolanda: Yes. Thanks. | 09:15 |
| tangchen | yolanda: But the data is not the latest | 09:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project Solar https://review.openstack.org/255983 | 09:17 |
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| mhickey | Hi. Anyone know if there is a problem in gate with ironic? "gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-agent_ssh" seems to be failing because it cannot find 'ironic' | 09:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Antyshev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Make hieraedit.py to not shuffle data items https://review.openstack.org/239479 | 09:32 |
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| andreaf | good morning - can I have reviews on this project-config patch please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257448/ | 09:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Isaac Beckman proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Allow to disable cron jobs https://review.openstack.org/250374 | 09:39 |
| AJaeger | mhickey: there was a problem in an ironic job that was fixed last night, so any current runs should be fine. When was your check run? | 09:40 |
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| AJaeger | andreaf: that's a bit too complex for me to review at the moment, I need some time to dig into that | 09:41 |
| mhickey | AJaeger: Hi. I did a run around 07.50 am UTC: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253530/ | 09:42 |
| andreaf | AJaeger: ok, thanks - let me know if you have any question if you get a change to look further into it | 09:42 |
| mhickey | AJaeger: What is the patch for the ironic fix? I can see when it was merged. | 09:42 |
| AJaeger | mhickey: "14.12.2015 22:07" | 09:42 |
| AJaeger | that was before I1a76d84aeefeb9f86c95460590c2784b0ab14fd6 was effective | 09:43 |
| mhickey | AJaeger: I should have picked it up then. | 09:43 |
| AJaeger | mhickey: you should have picked it up for the recheck you did at 7:50 am that has not completed yet | 09:44 |
| mhickey | AJaeger: Sorry, my apologies. I just realised the jenkins TS. | 09:44 |
| mhickey | AJaeger: Thanks for this! :) | 09:44 |
| AJaeger | you're welcome, mhickey | 09:45 |
| AJaeger | andreaf: will comment on it when I find time in the next days | 09:45 |
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| isaacb | yolanda: Thanks for https://review.openstack.org/250374 | 09:47 |
| yolanda | isaacb, np, you fixed so quick | 09:47 |
| andreaf | np, I had a +2 from sdague already, but had missed to update tempest-jobs.yaml - so I will seek for his review as well | 09:47 |
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| andreaf | AJaeger: ^ | 09:47 |
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| AJaeger | understood | 09:48 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: thanks for all the reviews. Do you want to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257123/ ? The WIP has just been removed... | 09:50 |
| yolanda | AJaeger, sure | 09:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Congress: Add different gate job for stable branch https://review.openstack.org/250598 | 09:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Change tempest jobs for Kuryr https://review.openstack.org/255818 | 09:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add rally integration job to networking-ovn https://review.openstack.org/255679 | 09:51 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add translation jobs for neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/257780 | 09:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move grenade jobs from experimental to check https://review.openstack.org/257781 | 09:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: oslo.msg: allow to run ceilometer integration job https://review.openstack.org/257790 | 09:58 |
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| dims | AJaeger : the grenade jobs worked fine! yay! (checked pip freeze to make sure it's using oslo.messaging). we are breaking a lot of stuff and am trying to get a handle on that. | 09:59 |
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| dims | AJaeger : thanks for +2'ing ozamiatin 's review | 09:59 |
| dims | AJaeger : sileht and i were talking about adding ceilometer stuff as well as we do not test notifications at all anywhere | 10:00 |
| ozamiatin | dims, AJaeger: thanks! | 10:00 |
| AJaeger | dims: glad to hear! | 10:00 |
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| AJaeger | dims: I just commented on the greande change: You now have lots of jobs running... | 10:00 |
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| dims | AJaeger : right, one we add ceilometer that would cover all features using only the kombu driver. we'd have to figure out what to do for pika and zmq. probably leave them as experimental i guess if we don't want that many jobs | 10:02 |
| dims | s/one/once/ | 10:02 |
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| AJaeger | dims: there's no need to rush anything here, just wanted to point it out for your consideration | 10:03 |
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| dims | AJaeger : y, been thinking a lot about the matrix needed in general for backward compat jobs, just started with oslo.messaging as the first project to hit | 10:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: oslo.msg: allow to run ceilometer integration job https://review.openstack.org/257790 | 10:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Discontinue Release status page https://review.openstack.org/254817 | 10:14 |
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| tzn | AJaeger: who can help me adding people to initial gerrit groups for new project? | 10:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add functional test job to astara-horizon https://review.openstack.org/253648 | 10:28 |
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| AJaeger | tzn: ask infra-root here for help and reference the review that merged and your gerrit email - and once you're added, you can add others yourself | 10:53 |
| tzn | AJaeger: is it automatic process? | 10:54 |
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| AJaeger | tzn: you have to ask here and give the details - it's documented in the infra manual | 10:57 |
| AJaeger | tzn: I don't have the permissions to help you... | 10:58 |
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| mescanef | tzn: i usually send emails to openstack-infra about it | 10:58 |
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| mescanef | tzn: i post links to gerrit acl groups + link to a change from which these groups came | 10:59 |
| mescanef | via irc is also the way | 10:59 |
| mescanef | maybe fungi will read it;-) | 10:59 |
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| mescanef | tzn: the requestor should be the person who created that change, btw, since some ppl do not know about it | 11:00 |
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| yolanda | tzn, i can help , what do you need? can you show me link? | 11:00 |
| tzn | yolanda: thanks! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255983/ tnapierala@mirantis.com | 11:02 |
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| yolanda | tzn, added you to solar-core and solar-release | 11:03 |
| tzn | yolanda: thank you from the depths of my heart :) | 11:04 |
| yolanda | tzn anytime :) | 11:04 |
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| evgenyl | Hi, could someone please help with review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255804/ ? Thanks. | 11:12 |
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| mescanef | dear roots, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257796/ | 12:22 |
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| jroll | can I bug someone to merge this dsg change and stop the bleeding? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257637/ | 13:10 |
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| ekuris | I am trying to add fix to upstream tempest , After I type "git review " I get error that I need to update my contact info but I cannot update because I get other error in the site . you can find here the errors :http://pastebin.test.redhat.com/335472 | 13:13 |
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| AJaeger | ekuris: this normally means taht you're not a foundation member | 13:24 |
| AJaeger | ekuris: This needs your gerrit preferred e-mail address to match a primary | 13:25 |
| AJaeger | e-mail address for a foundation individual member account. | 13:25 |
| AJaeger | ekuris: If you already followed the instructions at | 13:25 |
| AJaeger | http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup | 13:25 |
| AJaeger | and still get that, see https://ask.openstack.org/question/56720 for | 13:25 |
| AJaeger | additional troubleshooting tips. | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 13:26 |
| ekuris | AJaeger, ok thanks I will check all the steps | 13:27 |
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| AJaeger | ekuris: email adress mis-match or not signed up as a foundational members are the two common errors | 13:31 |
| ekuris | AJaeger, ok I will verify it now maybe I missed something | 13:32 |
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| tjcocozz | ekuris if that doesn't work, I have come across that before and it was because my address wasn't the same between https://www.openstack.org/profile/ and the gerrit settings. | 13:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update Designate rally job https://review.openstack.org/257906 | 13:54 |
| tsufiev | hello, folks! | 13:54 |
| tsufiev | a quick (I hope so) question about devstack-gate... | 13:55 |
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| tsufiev | https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/horizon.yaml - do I understand correctly that if a project is mentioned within PROJECTS var, it's not required to install it into devstack node explicitly? | 13:55 |
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| tsufiev | E.g., no need to install sahara-dashboard here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255232/6/jenkins/jobs/sahara.yaml explicitly to test any change in sahara-dashboard with integration tests? | 13:56 |
| tsufiev | the second question is whether we need to install sahara explicitly which is a direct dependency of sahara-dashboard as stated in dashboard's requirements? | 13:57 |
| ekuris | AJaeger, tjcocozz thanks guys its worled :) | 13:57 |
| AJaeger | glad to hear, ekuris ! Looking forward to a pile of changes ;) | 13:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Evgeniy L proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add docs-on-rtfd hook for bareon project https://review.openstack.org/257910 | 13:58 |
| tjcocozz | ekuris, :-) | 13:58 |
| tsufiev | oh, it isn't actually, never mind the second question :) | 13:58 |
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| mestery | Good morning infra folks! I tried to tag and release 3.0.0 of networking-cisco this morning and the merge-release-tags job failed. | 14:17 |
| mestery | I'm baffled as to why, if someone has a moment some extra eyes would be helpful! http://logs.openstack.org/88/8873789fc63a0631d4d3c2b94e13b49cc373a319/release/ | 14:18 |
| mestery | Thanks in advance! | 14:18 |
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| yolanda | hi mestery, i see errors on cisco-merge-release-tags | 14:20 |
| yolanda | 2015-12-15 12:40:41.089 | To ssh://proposal-bot@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/networking-cisco.git | 14:20 |
| yolanda | 2015-12-15 12:40:41.090 | ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/publish/master/merge/release-tag (change 256666 closed) | 14:20 |
| yolanda | 2015-12-15 12:40:41.090 | error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://proposal-bot@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/networking-cisco.git' | 14:20 |
| mestery | yolanda: Yup, I'm unsure why those occur however. | 14:20 |
| mestery | yolanda: I've got another one (networking-bgpvpn) that failed because apparently a commit message first-line is too long | 14:21 |
| mestery | yolanda: http://logs.openstack.org/97/97f555f30ed0c57a3d7193e0d902090c0b580c2f/release/ | 14:21 |
| mestery | yolanda: That's for networking-bgpvpn | 14:21 |
| mestery | Not my morning I guess :( | 14:21 |
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| AJaeger | mestery: can you find networking-cisco at all on pypi? I can't right now ;( | 14:22 |
| igorbelikov | hey folks, I'm going through all remaining stackforge-retirement patches for fuel and there's this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236451/. It's in merge conflict despite not having any cross-project dependencies and it's on top of branch head, so there's nowhere to rebase. What could cause merge conflict in this case? | 14:22 |
| yolanda | mestery, i'm not aware on how that works... for some reason it tries to send a review for a change that already merged | 14:22 |
| mestery | AJaeger: Looking ... but if that's the problem, I apologize and will chase the cisco folks down with a big stick :( | 14:22 |
| mestery | AJaeger: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/networking-cisco | 14:22 |
| mestery | AJaeger: In fact, 2.0.0 DID push to PyPI | 14:23 |
| mestery | AJaeger: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/networking-cisco/2.0.0 | 14:23 |
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| yolanda | AJaeger, do you know better about this tool works' | 14:23 |
| yolanda | ? | 14:23 |
| AJaeger | mestery: I searched via https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=networking-cisco&submit=search and could not find it ;( | 14:24 |
| mestery | AJaeger: Weirdness | 14:24 |
| AJaeger | yolanda: no, can't help here ;( | 14:24 |
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| mestery | AJaeger yolanda: Thanks for hte help! I'll send a note to the ML and get some async help here. | 14:25 |
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| AJaeger | mestery: so, what failed is the merge of the release tag: http://logs.openstack.org/88/8873789fc63a0631d4d3c2b94e13b49cc373a319/release/networking-cisco-merge-release-tags/4fb9a7f/console.html | 14:27 |
| AJaeger | As you stated ;) | 14:27 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 14:27 |
| AJaeger | igorbelikov: let me check... | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [sahara] job for sahara-dashboard integration tests https://review.openstack.org/255232 | 14:28 |
| AJaeger | igorbelikov: might have been some hickup, let me change the commit... | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [sahara] job for sahara-dashboard integration tests https://review.openstack.org/255232 | 14:29 |
| AJaeger | igorbelikov: thanks for going through these finally ! | 14:29 |
| AJaeger | igorbelikov: gerrit hickup I guess, editing the commit message helped. We had one day a full disk and that produced some strange merge conflicts... | 14:30 |
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| igorbelikov | AJaeger: yeah, really a lot of projects and stable branches:) I wouldn't imagine we still have 'stackforge' in so many places, so thank you for bringing this up | 14:31 |
| igorbelikov | AJaeger: thx, changing commit message didn't come to my mind | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/glean: Fixup some logging issues https://review.openstack.org/257119 | 14:33 |
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| mescanef | igorbelikov: but..fuel ci gave -1 | 14:34 |
| mescanef | :-( | 14:35 |
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| igorbelikov | mescanef: yeah, this is a different problem | 14:35 |
| pabelanger | Morning | 14:36 |
| pabelanger | doing the puppethack day this morning, do we have any open PR is puppet land that we need to land? | 14:36 |
| pabelanger | Aside from the puppetlabs-apache stuff I am working on | 14:36 |
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| sdague | fungi / mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234509/ would be nice to just reduce some outstanding clear patches | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/glean: Allow to configure fqdn hostname https://review.openstack.org/257935 | 15:00 |
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| yolanda | mordred, SpamapS, greghaynes, can i get your thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/257935 ? | 15:08 |
| mordred | yolanda: SO | 15:10 |
| gsagie | Rebased two patches that already had workflow, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255685/ , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255688/ just to your attention ;) | 15:10 |
| mordred | yolanda: the problem with that | 15:10 |
| mordred | yolanda: is that I _believe_ there is a problem on clouds thatt are not bifrost | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Fix server deletes when cinder isn't available https://review.openstack.org/256994 | 15:11 |
| mordred | yolanda: oh - maybe the name field does have the fqdn if it's set | 15:11 |
| mordred | yolanda: nevermind - it was the hostname field that nova makes very useless | 15:11 |
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| yolanda | mordred, so glean is splitting the fqdn if you set it, so my intention is to set if properly if we pass it | 15:13 |
| yolanda | and add short and long hostnames to /etc/hosts | 15:13 |
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| yolanda | mm, it fails pep8 :( | 15:14 |
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| mordred | ah - gotcha. yeah. short and long should both go into /etc/hosts | 15:14 |
| yolanda | k, that patch adds them | 15:14 |
| SpamapS | yolanda: I like it | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/glean: Allow to configure fqdn hostname https://review.openstack.org/257935 | 15:15 |
| yolanda | cool, fixing pep8 | 15:15 |
| mordred | ++ | 15:15 |
| mordred | yolanda: you look for 127.0.1.1 and then write 127.0.0.1 | 15:15 |
| yolanda | oh dear | 15:16 |
| yolanda | good eye :) | 15:16 |
| * mordred was useful today | 15:16 | |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/glean: Allow to configure fqdn hostname https://review.openstack.org/257935 | 15:16 |
| yolanda | ok better :) | 15:17 |
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| dmellado | Hi everyone, isn't the merge gate quite slow? I mean, are 7h+ wait times usual? | 15:24 |
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| mordred | dmellado: it's not insane - we're hitting capacity during the day quite often. we're landing between 900 and 1100 patches per week these days, so the fact that the wait is only 7 hours is not terrible | 15:28 |
| mordred | dmellado: considering tests take an hour to run - that means we're averaging a parallel rate of 6.5 patches per hour even with strict serialized ordering | 15:29 |
| dmellado | mordred: I see, then I guess that's 'dying of success' xD | 15:29 |
| dmellado | thanks for clarifying it ;) | 15:29 |
| mordred | dmellado: yah :) | 15:29 |
| mordred | dmellado: we're working on bringing more clouds online too - so more vms should hopefully help | 15:30 |
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| yolanda | SpamapS, care revisiting my patch? i lost your +2 with a pair of typos | 15:33 |
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| SpamapS | yolanda: ok, just waiting for CI | 15:35 |
| yolanda | thx | 15:35 |
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| SotK | jeblair, mordred: do either of you oppose us merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240345/2 in it's current state? | 15:37 |
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| jeblair | SotK: i don't really understand your objection -- the idea that you'd want the ability to put arbitrary templates in an arbitrary order seems a little too abstract; certainly not likely enough to double the number of files on disk. | 15:51 |
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| jeblair | SotK: (i mean if you want to compose a message out of [A] then [B], what's the likelihood of wanting to also do [B] then [A]) | 15:51 |
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| jeblair | SotK: (so in that case, just use the first subject you find. but then i think most emails are going to be single template (except for maybe a footer or something?)) | 15:53 |
| jeblair | SotK: but don't let me block you :) | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add note about unit testing with mox and python 3 compat https://review.openstack.org/257972 | 15:53 |
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| SotK | jeblair: its not the ordering that led to me changing my mind, but the fact that if we have multiple templates (eg. a text template and an html template) then either (a) one of them must be parsed as the "main template" to decide the subject, or (b) each of the templates need to define the subject | 15:57 |
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| * SotK is a little fuzzy on what exactly caused it since he hasn't really thought about emails since he looked at doing it | 15:58 | |
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| jeblair | SotK: ah, you mean multipart msgs | 15:59 |
| SotK | I was also wary of parsing the template as an email to obtain the subject, in case someone accidentally wrote a template that the parser thought contained other headers and that part of the template was lost | 15:59 |
| SotK | jeblair: indeed, I may have not made that clear on gerrit, sorry | 15:59 |
| jeblair | SotK: i'd probably just say the 'text' one was the special one and should have the subject. and then never write an html one. :) | 15:59 |
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| lennyb_ | Hi Infra, is there any monitoring tool to see Third party CI statistics of comments on gerrit ( except of ci-watch.tintri.com ) | 16:00 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: why do you ask? | 16:00 |
| anteaya | we are trying to reduce the many locations of tools and converge on a common one | 16:00 |
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| anteaya | lennyb_: if you have feedback on ci-watch, please share it | 16:01 |
| jeblair | SotK: but anyway, i see your point, and i'm fine if you want to go that direction :) | 16:01 |
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| * SotK hopes to never write an html one, but would rather leave the option easily available :) | 16:01 | |
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| lennyb_ | anteaya: Hi, nova folks ask for statistics, I can provide them with lastcomment output ( by jogo ), that I run locally, but I though maybe there is something else. | 16:01 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: did you see OVH's response? looks like its something in our image which is good beause hopefully its reproduceable and fixable | 16:02 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, was just reading that | 16:02 |
| SotK | jeblair: thanks :) | 16:02 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: I do believe that mriedem likes ci-watch, has someone in nova said ci-watch is unacceptable? | 16:02 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: or are you not on ci-watch? | 16:02 |
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| lennyb_ | anteaya: I am, but I dont see in ci-watch numbers ( like 80% PASS in last 1000commits ) | 16:03 |
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| anteaya | lennyb_: so if that is something nova is asking for perhaps that is some feedback for ci-watch? | 16:03 |
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| lennyb_ | anteaya: btw, #link docs.openstack.org/infa/ciwatch is unavailable | 16:06 |
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| anteaya | lennyb_: here is the source code: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/ciwatch/tree/ | 16:07 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: right now that tool is not hosted by infra | 16:07 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: there is a spec up to do that work, but it hasn't commenced yet (I don't believe) | 16:08 |
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| pabelanger | yolanda: Success: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-apache/blob/master/manifests/vhost/custom.pp | 16:08 |
| lennyb_ | anteaya: is there any official tool for infra to monitor or show statistics? | 16:08 |
| yolanda | woot!!!! | 16:08 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: when that tool is hosted by infra what documentation will be provided will be at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/ | 16:08 |
| pabelanger | yolanda: Going to test it out later today | 16:08 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: that tool is as offical as it gets and infra is not interested in monitoring third party cis | 16:09 |
| yolanda | pabelanger, amazing. Let's start moving :) | 16:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade mysql module to 3.6.1 https://review.openstack.org/257640 | 16:09 |
| anteaya | in fact infra is specifically not interested in monitoring third party cis | 16:09 |
| yolanda | pabelanger, what are your thoughts after that merge? do you want to add more functionality to custom? | 16:09 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: the only part infra cares about when it comes right down to it is a third party ci using gerrit the way infra is offering | 16:10 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: beyond that we do our best to point people at things so they can do their work and try as best we can to stay out of the way | 16:10 |
| anteaya | to that end infra would like to serve up a tool the community chooses for monitoring third party ci | 16:11 |
| anteaya | the community choose ciwatch | 16:11 |
| anteaya | s/choose/chose | 16:11 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MOeNBPPZ2S | 16:12 |
| lennyb_ | anteaya: thanks. I will take it from here. | 16:12 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: wonderful | 16:12 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: is it possible its our kernel boot param calculation being wrong? | 16:13 |
| jeblair | clarkb: why don't i hold a node, remove the arg, and reboot it? | 16:14 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ++ | 16:14 |
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| jeblair | oh, we even still have those 2 held nodes... | 16:15 |
| jeblair | oh whoops, only rax. nm. | 16:15 |
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| pabelanger | yolanda: do you have something specific in mind? | 16:16 |
| mriedem | sigmavirus24: if you're around, any idea what might cause this in requests 2.9.0? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1526413 | 16:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1526413 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_app_using_ipv6_and_ssl fails with requests 2.9.0" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:16 |
| pabelanger | yolanda: can bring it up at the meeting, but it is likely easier for us (-infra) to handle the extra code here | 16:17 |
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| pabelanger | then bog down vhost::custom\ | 16:17 |
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| yolanda | pabelanger, i was thinking about the ssl and rewrite bits that we have in our httpd-vhost | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for requests 2.9.0 ssl failure bug 1526413 https://review.openstack.org/257989 | 16:19 |
| openstack | bug 1526413 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_app_using_ipv6_and_ssl fails with requests 2.9.0" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1526413 | 16:19 |
| jroll | hey infra, in the new gerrit screen is it intended that typing "LGTM" changes your vote to +2+A? | 16:20 |
| clarkb | yes I believe that is a shortcut feature thing | 16:20 |
| clarkb | not sure if it can be disabled | 16:20 |
| clarkb | zaro: ^ | 16:20 |
| jeblair | seriously? | 16:20 |
| jroll | holy cow | 16:21 |
| jroll | would be awesome if it could | 16:21 |
| clarkb | ya its been there since v1 of the v2 change screen | 16:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | mriedem: looking | 16:21 |
| jroll | right, I just started using it recently | 16:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | mriedem: oh I know what's causing it | 16:21 |
| jeblair | that is so incredulous that i thought jroll was trolling and then thought that doesn't seem like jroll. | 16:21 |
| jroll | heh, that's jtroll | 16:22 |
| clarkb | thought I dind't think it +A'd | 16:22 |
| jeblair | right... THAT guy... ;) | 16:22 |
| clarkb | maybe that changed since I last looked at it a couple years ago | 16:22 |
| jroll | jeblair: I'm wondering how many patches I've approved in the last week now | 16:22 |
| jeblair | jroll: that's why throughput is up! | 16:22 |
| jroll | :D | 16:22 |
| jeblair | https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=3130 | 16:23 |
| clarkb | I was going to check review-dev's docs but its 500ing | 16:23 |
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| jeblair | Labels: FixedIn-2.11 | 16:23 |
| jeblair | clarkb: reload 4 times | 16:23 |
| jeblair | clarkb: mysql timeout | 16:23 |
| jroll | fixed in 2.11 \o/ | 16:23 |
| jroll | thanks jeblair | 16:23 |
| jeblair | https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/63762/ | 16:23 |
| clarkb | jeblair: wat that worked | 16:24 |
| clarkb | its like a port knock | 16:24 |
| jeblair | clarkb: we have a pool of 4 mysql connections, they all timeout on dev overnight, gerrit doesn't see they are dead until it tries to use them | 16:24 |
| jeblair | clarkb: idle timeouts are not an issue in prod :) | 16:24 |
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| jeblair | i like that though -- now you know the sekrit code to use the dev gerrit :) | 16:25 |
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| mriedem | sigmavirus24: must be this "The verify keyword argument now supports being passed a path to a directory of CA certificates, not just a single-file bundle." | 16:26 |
| mriedem | sigmavirus24: given the test uses that https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/test_wsgi.py#L333 | 16:26 |
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| jeblair | jroll: did it really +A? looking at the source, i think it should only code-review+2... | 16:27 |
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| jeblair | jroll: (i mean, still, it totally shouldn't do that... now i'm just curious :) | 16:27 |
| jroll | jeblair: yeah, try it in prod on something you have +2 on | 16:27 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/kennethreitz/requests/commit/0352ec0bd3aabb131b0cbb649f2062d59fc8f4a1 | 16:27 |
| jroll | jeblair: I accidentally +A'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257878/2 | 16:27 |
| jeblair | jroll: your suggestion makes too much sense | 16:27 |
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| sdague | oh, they must be iterating all your collumns | 16:28 |
| jroll | jeblair: I'm just on a roll today I guess :P | 16:28 |
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| jeblair | how droll | 16:29 |
| mriedem | or urllib3 1.13 could be causing the regression in requests 2.9.0 | 16:29 |
| jeblair | jroll: okay! i'm going to guess that at some point between 2.8 and when they removed it, they at least "fixed" it so that it doesn't do all the columns and only did code-review. | 16:30 |
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| sdague | mriedem / sigmavirus24 it's urllib3 | 16:30 |
| sdague | https://github.com/kennethreitz/requests/commit/3c0f0b9ab510d7ac6b556088d29fcc050c995357#diff-56e4c9a9f8955a91d87d7da5335a7dddL72 | 16:30 |
| jroll | jeblair: totally possible | 16:30 |
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| mriedem | sdague: yup | 16:31 |
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| sigmavirus24 | sdague: mriedem, lukasa and I are already on this | 16:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | thanks though | 16:31 |
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| sdague | sigmavirus24: ok, cool | 16:31 |
| mriedem | sdague: so block requests 2.9.0? | 16:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | mriedem: sdague https://github.com/shazow/urllib3/issues/760 | 16:32 |
| sdague | sigmavirus24: I'm assuming that we should assume the old behavior will come back? | 16:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | sdague: well it will appear to be the old behaviour. The implementation will be different though | 16:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | sdague: but it'll be a requests 2.10.0 because we no longer bump urllib3 versions in patch releases | 16:32 |
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| clarkb | fungi: did we end up gettin gimage builds yesterday or is today the first day with them reenabled? | 16:33 |
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| sdague | sigmavirus24: yeh, that's fine, as long as .get("https://[::1]/foo") is valid | 16:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | sdague: yep that will be valid | 16:33 |
| * clarkb looks | 16:33 | |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh, so a block is appropriate | 16:33 |
| mriedem | sdague: on it | 16:34 |
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| fungi | clarkb: they should have happened yesterday. the revert merged prior to 14:14 | 16:34 |
| clarkb | looks hit and miss but ya yesterday got some images | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Factory subject is now a template file. https://review.openstack.org/240345 | 16:36 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: bluebox exhibits similar avialable maemory | 16:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/requirements: Block requests 2.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/257998 | 16:37 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^ | 16:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: 7794 without the mem= option | 16:37 |
| jeblair | on ovh | 16:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i wonder if it's something unlucky with page alignment | 16:38 |
| clarkb | jeblair: huh | 16:38 |
| jeblair | or areas or something | 16:38 |
| sdague | mriedem: you want to put the lp bug # in there | 16:38 |
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| mriedem | sdague: it is | 16:38 |
| sdague | I mean in the comment | 16:39 |
| sdague | if you are adding a comment to explain why the block is there, it seems like you should put the lp bug in it | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Keystone eventlet gate only in keystone https://review.openstack.org/257999 | 16:39 |
| clarkb | jeblair: when we tested it rax and hpcloud were both happy with the option but those are both different deployments to bluebox and ovh so seems possible | 16:39 |
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| mriedem | sdague: oh | 16:39 |
| mriedem | ok | 16:39 |
| fungi | i wonder if we could make the mem= specific to hpcloud somehow. though i guess that would mean separate dib runs for it | 16:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: yes | 16:39 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, that's :( | 16:39 |
| fungi | ideally we could drop it completely after hpcloud is retired | 16:40 |
| jeblair | there is that | 16:40 |
| fungi | but that's not today | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/requirements: Block requests 2.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/257998 | 16:40 |
| mriedem | sdague: done | 16:40 |
| clarkb | and possibly use croups to limit memory post boot | 16:40 |
| fungi | unless we make it today... | 16:40 |
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| jeblair | (if the end result of all the dib work is that we end up with different images for different providers, i'm going to go work on nova) | 16:40 |
| clarkb | basically have a root cgroup apply to all processes with a hard memory limit of 8G | 16:40 |
| clarkb | but that would require testing and all that and may not happen before we rip the limit out of hpcloud anyways | 16:41 |
| fungi | could we convince hpcloud to make a "special" flavor for us as a going away present? | 16:41 |
| fungi | fudge pickle praline 8gb | 16:41 |
| fungi | same vcpu as vanilla 30gb flavor | 16:42 |
| fungi | and that way we could drop the kernel command line argument earlier | 16:42 |
| apuimedo | Hi, is it possible to have the "submit type" for a project be "cherry-pick"? | 16:42 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: oh! I wonder if it is because we have 8000MB not 8192MB which would support the alignment theory | 16:43 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i'm rebooting with that now ;) | 16:43 |
| clarkb | jeblair: can you try changing the param to 8000M on your held ... awesome | 16:44 |
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| fungi | apuimedo: why would you want that? we tried it for our (infra) repos for a while and turns out it has some unfortunate side effects | 16:44 |
| apuimedo | fungi: which unfortunate side-effects? | 16:45 |
| apuimedo | I was using it before in another open source project | 16:45 |
| apuimedo | and I miss a "merge commit" free history a lot | 16:45 |
| apuimedo | it's much easier to navigate when the order of git logs is merge order | 16:45 |
| apuimedo | or rather, submit order | 16:45 |
| clarkb | it rewrites the commit message | 16:45 |
| clarkb | which confuses git tremendously | 16:45 |
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| apuimedo | rewrites? | 16:46 |
| apuimedo | you mean the time? | 16:46 |
| clarkb | yes it rewrites your commit message | 16:46 |
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| clarkb | no the content | 16:46 |
| apuimedo | in which way? | 16:46 |
| clarkb | with the review notes | 16:46 |
| jeblair | yeah, the commit that is merged is never the one submitted, so signatures, content, etc. don't match. workflows that depend on 'git branch -D' do not work. | 16:46 |
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| jeblair | apuimedo: try git log --no-merges | 16:47 |
| apuimedo | jeblair: that still leaves the parent ordering, sadly | 16:47 |
| apuimedo | the only thing that I remember gerrit adding was the lines saying "reviewed-by" and "reviewed-on" | 16:48 |
| apuimedo | which were nice to have | 16:48 |
| clarkb | jeblair: though bluebox claims 8192 so that may not be the whole story | 16:48 |
| clarkb | apuimedo: except that they break git | 16:48 |
| fungi | apuimedo: also the committer is no longer the original committer, the git sha is no longer the original git sha, et cetera. all in the name of avoiding merge commits which you can just as easily tell git log to not display in the first place | 16:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Bump ironic timeout way up https://review.openstack.org/257637 | 16:49 |
| jeblair | clarkb: mem=8000M (or mem=8192M) doesn't help | 16:49 |
| jroll | mtreinish: that was fun | 16:49 |
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| fungi | apuimedo: the things it added to the commit message are also stored in git notes even when using merge instead of cherry-pick | 16:49 |
| apuimedo | I never felt it broke git for me in oVirt, but I'll have to take your word for it | 16:49 |
| apuimedo | :P | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | apuimedo: rebase stops working, git branch -d stops working etc | 16:49 |
| clarkb | apuimedo: because git treats the commit that was merged as differnet than your local side changes | 16:50 |
| apuimedo | well, I usually just ignore the local branches | 16:50 |
| clarkb | apuimedo: so then you go to rebase and all of a sudden you have doubled up all your work with all the associated merge conflicts | 16:50 |
| apuimedo | I mean, I made a patch | 16:50 |
| apuimedo | uploaded it | 16:50 |
| clarkb | then we have to field what is basically git user support questions to figure it out | 16:50 |
| apuimedo | deleted it from local | 16:50 |
| apuimedo | if I need it again | 16:50 |
| jeblair | apuimedo: maybe git log --no-merges --first-parent | 16:50 |
| apuimedo | I fetch it from gerrit | 16:50 |
| apuimedo | let's try that | 16:50 |
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| fungi | i added a fetch = +refs/notes/*:refs/notes/* to my .gitconfig and now i see all the review metadata in my git log output | 16:50 |
| mtreinish | jroll: heh, hopefully we have the passenv setup on tox properly in tempest to actually enable setting that from outside of tox :0 | 16:51 |
| apuimedo | no, sadly not | 16:51 |
| fungi | oh, and also notesRef = refs/notes/review | 16:51 |
| jroll | mtreinish: only logs will tell, I guess :| | 16:51 |
| clarkb | apuimedo: most people will not work that way | 16:51 |
| jeblair | apuimedo: i'm sure there's a way to get the order you want :) | 16:51 |
| jroll | mtreinish: passenv = OS_STDOUT_CAPTURE OS_STDERR_CAPTURE OS_TEST_TIMEOUT \o/ | 16:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Keystone eventlet gate only in keystone https://review.openstack.org/257999 | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Change postgres job to use standard deployment https://review.openstack.org/258006 | 16:52 |
| clarkb | apuimedo: so while its possile to work around the problems its easier to just let git work in the "default" "simple" case | 16:52 |
| apuimedo | jeblair: yeah... I'll try to achieve that | 16:52 |
| mtreinish | jroll: heh, cool. (we probably had that problem before) | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for requests 2.9.0 ssl failure bug 1526413 https://review.openstack.org/257989 | 16:52 |
| openstack | bug 1526413 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_app_using_ipv6_and_ssl fails with requests 2.9.0" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1526413 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 16:52 |
| anteaya | fungi: handy | 16:52 |
| sdague | ok, so requests 2.9 release (with urllib 1.13) breaks nova unit tests. Which is going to massively gum up an already gummed up gate. | 16:52 |
| apuimedo | this workflow is very githubish | 16:52 |
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| apuimedo | :P | 16:52 |
| clarkb | apuimedo: it is? | 16:52 |
| sdague | any chance of ninja merging those patches, or do we just need to grind for 24 hours? | 16:52 |
| apuimedo | seeing so many merges | 16:52 |
| apuimedo | :P | 16:52 |
| jroll | no, githubish is nuking comments on every rebase | 16:53 |
| apuimedo | I'm using to clean linear history | 16:53 |
| fungi | the bottom line is that cherry-picking on merge is basically rewriting history by altering the commits. merges present a much truer picture of the original commits including dates, authorship, et cetera | 16:53 |
| apuimedo | but I guess I'll get used to it | 16:53 |
| jeblair | sdague: what patches? | 16:53 |
| apuimedo | fungi: no doubt about that | 16:53 |
| fungi | linearizing git by changing the commits themselves is sort of a lie | 16:53 |
| sdague | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/257998 | 16:53 |
| apuimedo | it is a much truer and complete history | 16:53 |
| sdague | and ... | 16:53 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/258001 | 16:53 |
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| sdague | because it needs to be in nova as unit tests are not yet constrained by constraints | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Brown proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add bandit-docs job to gate of Bandit project https://review.openstack.org/257533 | 16:54 |
| jeblair | sdague: how about we promote them instead of 'ninja merge'? | 16:54 |
| apuimedo | it just confuses my simple brain when I do `git log -p` and the things are not in the order I merged them | 16:54 |
| apuimedo | is the tox issue with devstack gone? | 16:54 |
| clarkb | apuimedo: should be | 16:54 |
| apuimedo | good! | 16:54 |
| sdague | jeblair: if you like, we are very sure about what the fails are that this addresses it | 16:55 |
| apuimedo | whoever fixed it has my deep appreciation :-) | 16:55 |
| bknudson | git log --topo-order | 16:55 |
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| sdague | and the fail chance for promotes is probably quite high | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update Designate rally job to devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/257906 | 16:55 |
| clarkb | apuimedo: we stopped making new images and yesterday early upstream released the fix | 16:55 |
| apuimedo | bknudson: that's it! | 16:55 |
| apuimedo | you are my saviour | 16:55 |
| apuimedo | or at least my sanity's savior! | 16:56 |
| jeblair | we should put a section on this in infra-manual | 16:56 |
| apuimedo | clarkb: cool | 16:56 |
| bknudson | apuimedo: dhellmann introduced me to this just a week ago. | 16:56 |
| apuimedo | thanks to you both then | 16:57 |
| apuimedo | this deserves a new entry in my git log | 16:58 |
| apuimedo | git alias | 16:58 |
| apuimedo | loo = log --topo-order --no-merges | 16:58 |
| bknudson | I think gerrit makes us poor git users. | 16:58 |
| jeblair | 'git loo' ha! | 16:58 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 16:58 |
| apuimedo | LOg Openstack | 16:58 |
| apuimedo | pun intended | 16:58 |
| apuimedo | bknudson: well, it's not as true as sending patches by email | 16:59 |
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| apuimedo | but it's a convenience thing | 16:59 |
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| apuimedo | it lowers the barrier of entry | 16:59 |
| apuimedo | I suppose | 16:59 |
| pabelanger | yolanda: Ya, so the plan was to have a minimal vhost:custom to accept a raw config. So, sadly, we are now on the hook to deal with vhost and SSL stuff in our manifests. Otherwise, I would say we just use vhost.pp today. | 16:59 |
| pabelanger | So, we'll need to build up the code and see what that looks like. | 17:00 |
| pabelanger | back in 25mins | 17:00 |
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| ekarlso | what's meant here about overriding the setup ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257906/1/jenkins/jobs/rally.yaml | 17:01 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: look at line 129 | 17:01 |
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| jeblair | sdague: any chance you could get those changes _approved_? | 17:02 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: sdague: maybe we should also work to get nova using contraints like neutron? | 17:03 |
| clarkb | (thats less urgent but related) | 17:03 |
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| sdague | clarkb: sure, though it went all high fail recently | 17:03 |
| sdague | because of the deleted pypi packages | 17:03 |
| yolanda | pabelanger, we may need a wrapper | 17:04 |
| sdague | jeblair: I have approved said changes | 17:04 |
| yolanda | to don't write same code on each manifest | 17:04 |
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| clarkb | sdague: I mean pick your poison | 17:04 |
| clarkb | eithre you control your deps with no compromise or you don't and risk upstreams breaking you | 17:05 |
| sdague | well, the other way is more poison right now - http://tinyurl.com/qc5lzjw | 17:05 |
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| sdague | it does feel like there should be a way to adapt to removed versions though | 17:06 |
| sdague | quickly | 17:06 |
| jeblair | sdague: promoted | 17:06 |
| sdague | because that is a whole new failure vector we didnt' know existed before constraints got added | 17:06 |
| sdague | ok, so what's the game plan if these fail on unrelated issues? | 17:07 |
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| jeblair | sdague: they haven't finished any tests yet, so lets see what happens and if we get useful data suggesting they are safe to merge, we can go from there. | 17:10 |
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| jeblair | okay, one of them finished pep8 :) | 17:11 |
| waynr | electrofelix: yo, i updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180252/ | 17:12 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: I'm reading the log of the neutron meeting and it seems they are not fans of the new kibana | 17:12 |
| anteaya | clarkb: can you remind me why we went to the new kibana? | 17:13 |
| clarkb | anteaya: beacuse old kibana is not compatible iwth new elasticsearch | 17:13 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: if it helps I am not a fan either | 17:13 |
| anteaya | okay thanks | 17:13 |
| anteaya | I too am not a fan | 17:13 |
| clarkb | which is why the plan is to upgrade it after logstash | 17:13 |
| anteaya | sigh | 17:13 |
| anteaya | oh | 17:13 |
| yolanda | hi, can i get some review for https://review.openstack.org/254289 ? about apt-get autoremove, it already has a +2 from fungi | 17:13 |
| anteaya | is newer new kibana better? | 17:13 |
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| clarkb | kibana 2 only supported old es, kibana 3 supports old and new, kibana 4 supports new | 17:13 |
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| * anteaya looks up kibana 4 | 17:14 | |
| clarkb | so we are doing a staggered upgrade to maintain copat the whole way through | 17:14 |
| anteaya | yup | 17:14 |
| anteaya | okay will look and perhaps inform folks of the big picture? | 17:14 |
| anteaya | that might make some people happy | 17:14 |
| anteaya | well depending on how kibana 4 responds | 17:14 |
| anteaya | do you like it any better? | 17:14 |
| sdague | jeblair: ok, I'm going to be potentially offline for a bit, so if someone else can keep an eye on such things, that would be good. The error is python27 unit tests, if those complete successfully, things are good to go. | 17:15 |
| clarkb | anteaya: they are welcome to come here and provide their feedback and ask question here instead of complaining in a side channel where no one can do anything tohelp | 17:15 |
| clarkb | anteaya: and/or ml | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update Designate rally job to devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/257906 | 17:15 |
| clarkb | and or just do the upgrade and pus the change to gerrit | 17:15 |
| anteaya | clarkb: it wasn't a side channel | 17:15 |
| anteaya | it was there meeting | 17:15 |
| clarkb | anteaya: yes, neutron meeting is not where we discuss logstash problems | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade mysql module to 3.6.1 https://review.openstack.org/257640 | 17:16 |
| anteaya | and it wasn't complaining as much as expressing frustration regarding progress on bugs | 17:16 |
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| anteaya | well it is possible they are selecting the times they interact with projects, much like other projects do | 17:16 |
| clarkb | "logstash is appaling" | 17:16 |
| clarkb | thats complaining | 17:16 |
| clarkb | I don't know how to fi xthat | 17:16 |
| anteaya | I don't know at that was what was said | 17:16 |
| jeblair | clarkb: clearly a typo of appealing | 17:17 |
| anteaya | 14:08:07 <armax> the new logstash UI and way to share urls is appalling to say the least | 17:17 |
| jesusaur | jeblair: clearly :) | 17:17 |
| anteaya | I think people in all projects are overwhelmed | 17:17 |
| clarkb | anteaya: yes I still don't know how to fix that | 17:17 |
| anteaya | with the expectaions of what they are supposed to accomplsih | 17:17 |
| clarkb | I tried based on direct feedback form mtreinish and mriedem and sdague | 17:17 |
| anteaya | armax has posted to the mailing list to try to get his responsiblities trimmed so he can do a better job | 17:18 |
| clarkb | there is one known issue with it (the time range) which is difficult to fix and I would rather just upgrade | 17:18 |
| anteaya | that is fair | 17:18 |
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| clarkb | if there are other issues that neutron has with it they should state them | 17:18 |
| ekarlso | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257906 < clarkb / other peeps can you guys sign off on that ? : ) | 17:18 |
| anteaya | and armax has made appeals to us in the past so that he can do a good job of interacting with infra | 17:18 |
| anteaya | he has stated that as a goal for him | 17:19 |
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| anteaya | but he like so many others only has so much time in the day | 17:19 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: I don't think that has addressed AJaeger's comment | 17:19 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: you need to not overwrite the DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG var and append to it instead | 17:19 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: I was trying to help | 17:19 |
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| ekarlso | clarkb: eh, export FOO="$FOO..." ? | 17:19 |
| zaro | morning | 17:20 |
| ekarlso | that's not squashing | 17:20 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: I think its still incomplete since the newline isn't going to be correct? | 17:20 |
| anteaya | morning zaro | 17:20 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: its the right idea but I think I would hvae to test it | 17:20 |
| pabelanger | yolanda: likely | 17:20 |
| ekarlso | clarkb: I guess we should wait for the job to run and see :) | 17:20 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: or you should test it locally | 17:21 |
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| clarkb | ekarlso: but look at the earlier code it does the weird escaping of newlines to make sure they go inright | 17:21 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: I think if oyu do that it will be fine | 17:21 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: using the += | 17:21 |
| fungi | sdague: one up side to the deleted version in constraints over broken new release in requirements is that you can fix constraints-based breakage entirely in the requirements repo with a single, central change. no need to wait for a version skip/cap to propagate to all the repos declaring a requirement on it | 17:21 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I am happy to work on specific issues, I just can't do much with $THING is appalling | 17:21 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I need to know what the use case is and why the current setup does not address the needs of that use case | 17:22 |
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| fungi | sdague: not saying we shouldn't look for an even faster route, but that's still better than what we were dealing with before | 17:22 |
| clarkb | the current plan is ot upgrade to kibana 4 which goes back to a server client model so that the server can safely store data in elasticsearch | 17:22 |
| ekarlso | clarkb: uhm, ok | 17:22 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: try echo "foo\nbar" | 17:22 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: to see what I think the problem is | 17:23 |
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| ekarlso | clarkb: so DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG+=$'\n'"enable_plugin designate git://git.openstack.org/openstack/designate" then ? :) | 17:23 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: yes | 17:23 |
| anteaya | clarkb: thanks, that is fair, and I appreciate that position | 17:23 |
| pleia2 | good morning | 17:23 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I think in my own way I was trying to get an understanding of your perspective so I could get that for you | 17:24 |
| anteaya | clarkb: and I was clumsy and failed to do that | 17:24 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I'm sorry | 17:24 |
| ekarlso | clarkb: awesome :) | 17:24 |
| anteaya | morning pleia2 | 17:24 |
| armax | anteaya: truth to be told, I am unsure whether it’s me who doesn’t know how to use the new logstash gui | 17:25 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: thanks, I'm looking up kibana 4 docs now so I have a better understanding | 17:25 |
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| armax | anteaya: I found the only GUI a lot easier to deal with | 17:25 |
| sdague | fungi: that is true if constraints is always mergable | 17:25 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: re: friday's sprint, since we're doing it in the -sprint channel, will we have blocks of time where folks kind of present on a topic, or will we go off into areas on our own to chat with each other? | 17:25 |
| anteaya | armax: fair enough, clarkb too states he doesn't think it is great, it was merely a stepping stone in the elasticsearch upgrade path | 17:26 |
| armax | one thing I wanted to double check with infra though was the shared url | 17:26 |
| anteaya | armax: which I now understand better | 17:26 |
| armax | it doesn’t seem they work | 17:26 |
| clarkb | armax: it should work except for the time range | 17:26 |
| anteaya | armax: there is a button marked share | 17:26 |
| clarkb | armax: for the query box | 17:26 |
| armax | clarkb: I see that it gets trimmed half way | 17:26 |
| anteaya | armax: you have to click the share button in the top right | 17:26 |
| armax | I did | 17:26 |
| clarkb | armax: can you give me an example query? | 17:26 |
| armax | I get a fancy gigantic url | 17:26 |
| armax | and then when I post it | 17:26 |
| armax | it gets trunked | 17:27 |
| armax | clarkb: hang on | 17:27 |
| sdague | armax: irc truncation? | 17:27 |
| fungi | armax: that's what older kibana did too, if memory serves | 17:27 |
| sdague | or truncated anywhere? | 17:27 |
| armax | sdague: in the browser address bar | 17:27 |
| ekarlso | clarkb: plesae sign off then :) | 17:27 |
| anteaya | pleia2: well the way I was picturing it was folks would sign up in advance and then be assigned pairs, the pairs would co-ordinate in advance as to what time frame in the 24 hours they wanted to work together | 17:27 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: yo ushould fix the commit mesage too | 17:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Gal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Kuryr Rally integration https://review.openstack.org/255685 | 17:28 |
| anteaya | pleia2: but so far only zaro and I have signed up | 17:28 |
| armax | hang on | 17:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Dragonflow Rally integration job https://review.openstack.org/255688 | 17:28 |
| anteaya | pleia2: I'm open to other ideas, this was my only one, we can try other things too | 17:28 |
| ekarlso | clarkb: not enough ? We need to change the Designate job to support the oldstyle of plugins for pre-Mitaka and use the plugins style for Mitaka. | 17:28 |
| fungi | sdague: i think lifeless had some additional ideas on how we can improve the constraints change proposals to sort of bisect updates and find where the update failures are, so that it proposes a working/passing update and possibly also files bugs about the found issues | 17:28 |
| armax | this one is an example: http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message:%5C%22AssertionError:%200%20==%200%20:%20No%20IPv4%20addresses%20found%20in:%5C%22%20AND%20build_name:%5C%22gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge%5C%22%20AND%20tags:%5C%22console%5C%22%20AND%20voting:%5C%221%5C%22 | 17:28 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: that really long line should line break at 72 characters | 17:28 |
| armax | it gets truncated to this: | 17:28 |
| armax | http://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message:%5C%22AssertionError:%200%20 | 17:28 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: ok | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update Designate rally job to devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/257906 | 17:29 |
| armax | I had another query like this yesterday and it copy and paste yielded the same resultf | 17:29 |
| armax | result | 17:29 |
| armax | I gave up and I wanted to touch base with you guys to see whether it’s something I am doing wrong | 17:30 |
| clarkb | armax: right can you copy paste just the query content somewhere | 17:30 |
| anteaya | pleia2: but my original picture had pairs working together in the channel, unless they were discussing something that was personal then private it okay | 17:30 |
| armax | sure | 17:30 |
| anteaya | pleia2: but part of my expectation was for us to learn different things about each other | 17:30 |
| anteaya | pleia2: like fungi tempers chocolate and clarkb makes beer | 17:30 |
| anteaya | pleia2: you like zoos, stuff like that | 17:30 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: I see, reading the etherpad now, I was wondering if we could do a couple more public "presentations" | 17:30 |
| armax | clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/481984/ | 17:30 |
| clarkb | armax: I want to try reproducing locally | 17:30 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: like, I could really use a crash course in all the bits of infra-cloud | 17:31 |
| anteaya | pleia2: well I don't really feel like presenting anything myself, I would like more one on one interactions | 17:31 |
| fungi | anteaya: oh! i _do_ know how to temper chocolate! | 17:31 |
| clarkb | armax: no not the url | 17:31 |
| clarkb | armax: the content of the query box | 17:31 |
| armax | ah ok | 17:31 |
| anteaya | pleia2: but if someone _wants_ to present I am not stopping them | 17:31 |
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| armax | hang on | 17:31 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: ok, that's fine :) | 17:31 |
| armax | clarkb: let me mint one fresh for you | 17:31 |
| anteaya | pleia2: and I agree with you, I too would like that | 17:31 |
| clarkb | armax: also is that url you pasted truncated or complete? | 17:31 |
| anteaya | pleia2: just not sure if that was in keeping with the festive spirit | 17:32 |
| clarkb | armax: if it is complete how are you getting the complete url vs getting the truncated url? | 17:32 |
| fungi | anteaya: though i learned it from reading instructions on the internet (breadmaking on the other hand, i learned through more traditional channels) | 17:32 |
| anteaya | pleia2: guess it depends on how you define that for yourself | 17:32 |
| anteaya | fungi: I like chocolate | 17:32 |
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| anteaya | fungi: or breadmaking | 17:32 |
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| anteaya | part of my point was for us to celebrate the wonderful qualities we all have as people | 17:32 |
| anteaya | not merely as sets of instructions we can all google | 17:33 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: I see :) | 17:33 |
| anteaya | I really really like working with you all | 17:33 |
| anteaya | you are some of the best people i have ever met | 17:33 |
| anteaya | and I feel so honoured to be able to work withyou every day | 17:33 |
| anteaya | and it makes me so sad we have all been so frustrated with each other | 17:33 |
| anteaya | so I was hoping we could take a day and see if we could enjoy each other | 17:34 |
| * fungi is not frustrated with anybody | 17:34 | |
| anteaya | y'know as a change of pace | 17:34 |
| anteaya | fungi: that is one of the qualities I admire about you so much | 17:34 |
| fungi | though i can't remember the last time i was truly frustrated. probably some point before i retired and started doing free software full time | 17:34 |
| anteaya | and I don't have a lot of practice doing so online, so my suggestion on the etherpad was the best I could come up with | 17:35 |
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| anteaya | and I'm open to other ideas | 17:35 |
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| anteaya | fungi: that would makes sense | 17:35 |
| zaro | anteaya: i signed up but haven't thought about it much, upgrade is all that's on my mind recently :) | 17:36 |
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| anteaya | zaro: yeah me too | 17:37 |
| fungi | the upgrade will go well. i can feel it | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | well, I signed up, but I am not sure what I can share ;) brain is open for picking though | 17:37 |
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| anteaya | fungi: wonderful | 17:38 |
| anteaya | pleia2: fair enough, thanks | 17:38 |
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| anteaya | I have zero idea what I can share too, depends on who I am paired with and what appeals to them | 17:38 |
| clarkb | armax: ok, so trying that url I think I see what yo uare saying, its when you take a complete url from logstash and put it in a browser that it truncates | 17:38 |
| clarkb | there is probably a bug in the encoding soemwhere then | 17:39 |
| anteaya | maple syrup, astrology, chakras, acupunture and tradiional chinese medicine, driving a bulldozer, planting trees, anything with third party ci (not hanging my hat on that), gerrit acls | 17:39 |
| armax | clarkb: yeah | 17:39 |
| clarkb | I think the == | 17:39 |
| armax | did you stop kibana? | 17:39 |
| clarkb | armax: no | 17:39 |
| anteaya | pleia2: depends on what appeals to my partner | 17:39 |
| armax | clarkb: I was putting notes together | 17:39 |
| clarkb | kibana is just js that runs in your browser | 17:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Filter bugs shown in graphs based on regex https://review.openstack.org/257633 | 17:40 |
| anteaya | pleia2: or crystals | 17:40 |
| armax | and whilst I was retrying and I get a connection failed | 17:40 |
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| clarkb | armax: an empty query returns results for me | 17:41 |
| armax | clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/481986/ | 17:41 |
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| clarkb | armax: ya so I think the problem is that == needs to be encoded to %3D%3D | 17:42 |
| armax | clarkb: this might be me | 17:42 |
| armax | clarkb: the other thing that used to work was automatic expansion of the query | 17:42 |
| armax | clarkb: it doesn’t do that for some reason | 17:42 |
| clarkb | armax: what do you mean by automatic expansion of the query? | 17:43 |
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| armax | clarkb: I recall that with the old gui I could click on the magnifier for the various filters | 17:43 |
| armax | and they would show up automatically on teh query box | 17:43 |
| clarkb | armax: you can still do that | 17:43 |
| armax | now, even though the filters are taken into that | 17:43 |
| armax | the filters do not show up in the query but only in the shared url | 17:43 |
| clarkb | but they o into "filters" not "query" | 17:43 |
| clarkb | right | 17:43 |
| armax | which I found a bit odd, as that’s how it worked in the past | 17:44 |
| anteaya | armax: the filters don't populate the query | 17:44 |
| clarkb | the underlying issue here is there is no server except for elasticsearch | 17:44 |
| armax | in other words I could build the query with a few pushes of a button | 17:44 |
| clarkb | all of this is running in your browser, the way upstream wants you to share queries is to write to elasticserach (which we can't allow) and then kibana retrieves the thing back out of es | 17:44 |
| armax | and see how it would look like | 17:45 |
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| clarkb | the plan has been instead of fixing kibana 3 to just upgrade to kibana 4 which goes back to a server model | 17:45 |
| armax | clarkb: yeah, I understand, I only found it odd because that’s not how it used to work | 17:45 |
| armax | but I could live with that | 17:45 |
| clarkb | which will give us much richer url sharing | 17:45 |
| armax | what I can’t live with…it’s the unusable urls | 17:45 |
| armax | :) | 17:45 |
| clarkb | right I can look into the == thing | 17:46 |
| armax | ok, I can triage this further whenever you like | 17:46 |
| armax | clarkb: thanks for looking into this | 17:46 |
| clarkb | for the other thing the fix i going to be upgrading kibana | 17:46 |
| armax | I have been meaning to mention this for a while | 17:46 |
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| clarkb | the underlyin issue is that = alone is not encoded because foo=bar is how you do parameters | 17:49 |
| clarkb | and the == is being ignored as a result I think | 17:49 |
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| clarkb | (granted js not my strong suit) | 17:49 |
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| anteaya | and krotscheck_vaca is on vaca | 17:49 |
| clarkb | encodeURIComponent apperas to be the function we actually need to use | 17:50 |
| anteaya | as js is his strong suit | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-kibana: Encode query uri component properly https://review.openstack.org/258029 | 17:51 |
| clarkb | armax: anteaya ^ should fix the == ting | 17:51 |
| armax | clarkb: you’re faster than the speed of sound | 17:52 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: mem=9216M gives us 7794 | 17:53 |
| anteaya | thanks clarkb | 17:53 |
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| anteaya | also I need to allow elasticsearch to spam me in order to watch their kibana 4 video tour: https://www.elastic.co/webinars/whats-new-in-kibana-4 :( | 17:54 |
| fungi | jeblair: specifically on ovh, or also tested elsewhere? | 17:54 |
| jeblair | fungi: on ovh | 17:54 |
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| ekarlso | clarkb: should be ok now .. | 17:55 |
| fungi | clarkb: so we were already carrying a fork of that file? | 17:55 |
| clarkb | fungi: yup :/ | 17:55 |
| clarkb | fungi: in order to hack up a url sharing method that works for us | 17:56 |
| fungi | got it | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Guido Günther proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Add support for handling promotions https://review.openstack.org/258032 | 17:56 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: so encodeURI doesn't encode . or = and encodeURIComponent just doesn't encode . | 18:00 |
| clarkb | http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_encodeuricomponent.asp | 18:01 |
| clarkb | that sound sright | 18:01 |
| clarkb | not sure if . needs encoding | 18:01 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: it is broken again? | 18:01 |
| anteaya | yeah w3 was what I looked up | 18:01 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: = was confusing it | 18:01 |
| anteaya | clarkb: good point | 18:01 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ecause I use encodeURI not encodeURIComponent | 18:01 |
| anteaya | clarkb: that could be considered encoded already | 18:02 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: oh, it doesnt want the % sequence? | 18:02 |
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| greghaynes | TIL encodeURI doesnt encode = | 18:02 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: right that was the issue | 18:02 |
| clarkb | need to encode = | 18:02 |
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| anteaya | jroll: I see there is a vagrant plugin for libvirt, have you ever used it or heard any feedback? | 18:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Block requests 2.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/257998 | 18:10 |
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| jroll | anteaya: I have not, I primarily use virtualbox with vagrant | 18:13 |
| anteaya | jroll: okay thanks | 18:13 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: the actual max memory address on ovh is at 9023M, so that explains why when we tell linux to cut it off at 8192, we lose 900M | 18:14 |
| clarkb | jeblair: so its offset from 0? or is ther ea hole? | 18:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: i'm not sure what about the memory structure there makes that the case... | 18:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i'm assuming a hole, but i'm not expect at reading the memory map lines in dmesg | 18:14 |
| jeblair | er expert | 18:14 |
| fungi | it's been ages since i've had to divine a kernel memory map | 18:15 |
| fungi | likely the kernel does different things with memory management now than the last time i did | 18:16 |
| fungi | but yes, it sounds like there might be some sort of reserved memory skipped in the middle there | 18:16 |
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| fungi | which ends up subtracted from our total | 18:16 |
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| fungi | heck, it's entirely possible the last time i had to worry about it, the kernel still did a dance to copy itself to "high memory" late in the boot process | 18:17 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, the delta from 9023 to their cap, 8000M is 1023 which is a convenient looking number | 18:17 |
| clarkb | and this is probalby only an issue with VMs because otherwise system memory is contiguous | 18:18 |
| clarkb | bluebox seems to do the same thing so maybe its a kvm thing? | 18:18 |
| jeblair | so, i wonder what happens if we set mem=9023 on an hp node. we will probably end up with ~9G. | 18:19 |
| fungi | good theory. rax is xen, hpcloud is... what? | 18:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: hpcloud is also kvm | 18:19 |
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| jeblair | holding an hpcloud node | 18:20 |
| jeblair | sdague, mriedem: both requests changes merged | 18:22 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: mem=9023M on hpcloud -> 8297 | 18:24 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that seems low neough to be reasonable | 18:25 |
| jeblair | about .5G more than rax | 18:25 |
| clarkb | especially for another month or so | 18:25 |
| fungi | i'd be willing to see that as a compromise, though we'll probably still have projects sneaking in memory-hungry tests and then asking us why their jobs run fine in hpcloud but crash everywhere else | 18:26 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: We never made any type of element-exludes stuff in DIB did we? Do you remember if we had any reason other than just not doing it? | 18:26 |
| greghaynes | er, element-excludes | 18:26 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252041/10/elements/lvm/block-device.d/50-lvm is making me want it | 18:27 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: mem=9023M on ovh -> 7793; so that looks like a good value to use there | 18:27 |
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| clarkb | ++ | 18:27 |
| jeblair | i assume it will have no detrimental effect anywhere else since it's higher than the prev | 18:27 |
| fungi | as long as we can drop it when hpcloud goes away, that's supportable for a month or two | 18:28 |
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| fungi | as long as we don't end up with a new provider who can only give us sufficiently performing instances if we accept a flavor with more ram than we want | 18:28 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: no we never did excludes. There's always that hesitance to make it more-packaging-like ... so if we have workarounds that aren't disgusting.. we do those | 18:29 |
| clarkb | if that happens we can look at the cgroup route | 18:29 |
| fungi | for infra-cloud, clearly we're in control, but other new providers might end up needing some additional negotiation on custom flavors | 18:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Bump glanceclient to use the newest version https://review.openstack.org/257512 | 18:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Increase memory restriction to 9023M https://review.openstack.org/258077 | 18:32 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: ^ | 18:32 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: i'm going to release all held nodes now | 18:32 |
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| fungi | thanks jeblair! | 18:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Bump tooz version to 1.28.0 https://review.openstack.org/254748 | 18:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.utils to 3.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/257225 | 18:34 |
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| clarkb | we raced +2'ing I can approve | 18:34 |
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| ekarlso | clarkb: can I please have a +2 ? neede to get rally jobs for designate | 18:38 |
| clarkb | ekarlso: I did | 18:39 |
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| clarkb | fungi: memory.limit_in_bytes | 18:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: if we set that in the root cgroup I believe it will apply collectively to all processes | 18:43 |
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| fungi | clarkb: is it possible to reset that after boot though? | 18:45 |
| lifeless | fungi: perhaps a cgroup around the test code? | 18:45 |
| clarkb | the tough thing there is going to be the variance in setting cgroup values across distros | 18:45 |
| fungi | lifeless: well, we had that before | 18:45 |
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| fungi | i don't recall the shortcomings there, but clarkb probably does | 18:45 |
| clarkb | fungi: yes systemd sets them up on systemd machines aiui | 18:45 |
| clarkb | the shortcomings ther are that we run whole sytems with many users and its hard to keep track of them all | 18:45 |
| clarkb | easier to just do it in the root cgroup | 18:45 |
| fungi | ahh, right, having one cgroup to constrain a devstack-based job ends up being nightmarish | 18:46 |
| clarkb | granted we hand out sudo so people could work around it but would do so at their own risk | 18:46 |
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| clarkb | "only 1/3 of my jobs actually get 30GB of memory when I disable the cgroup" | 18:47 |
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| fungi | oh, part of the problem ended up being related to our old reuse of long-lived workers. we were constraining unit test jobs to something like 2gb and sometimes they'd leave orphaned/zombie processes eating up the limited allocation. obviously not a concern with our current model | 18:48 |
| fungi | and the issue still would have been present in the old system even without cgroups, but artificially limiting it there made it become apparent more quickly | 18:49 |
| anteaya | fungi: we are coming up to meeting time is this agenda in shape for the meeting? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting | 18:49 |
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| anteaya | or shall I remove my item from last week? | 18:49 |
| fungi | back then we also had a lot more projects that would start and interact with services in their "unit tests" than we do now | 18:49 |
| fungi | anteaya: i'm about to clean it up | 18:49 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah wonderful | 18:49 |
| fungi | just finishing making my local notes | 18:50 |
| anteaya | I'll wait for you then, so I don't conflict | 18:50 |
| * fungi gets back to it | 18:50 | |
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| anteaya | yup, figured you were on top of it | 18:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 18:52 |
| fungi | anteaya: did you have a url for the holiday thing? | 18:52 |
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| fungi | etherpad? | 18:52 |
| anteaya | well fetch | 18:53 |
| anteaya | fungi: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-holiday-party-2015 | 18:53 |
| fungi | thanks! | 18:53 |
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| anteaya | welcome | 18:53 |
| anteaya | here too if you want the link to the virtual sprints page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/VirtualSprints#Infra_.22holiday_party.22_knowledge_transfer_virtual_sprint | 18:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add automated database config retrieval https://review.openstack.org/258088 | 18:54 |
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| anteaya | that was will by the way, not well, even though my fingers went with well | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Update Designate rally job to devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/257906 | 18:56 |
| fungi | agenda cleanup done | 18:57 |
| * anteaya f5's | 18:58 | |
| anteaya | thanks | 18:58 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 18:59 |
| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 18:59 |
| pleia2 | meeting time | 19:00 |
| fungi | yep! -> #openstack-meeting | 19:00 |
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| ruagair | o/ | 19:02 |
| waynr | i used to work with this scruffy old engineer who would walk through the warehouse where the younger engineers sat informing us it was "beating time!", which i am always remind of when someone says "meeting time" | 19:02 |
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| AJaeger | dougwig, mestery : Could you review this neutron change, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255325/ | 19:04 |
| mestery | AJaeger: Yes, looking | 19:05 |
| dougwig | AJaeger: aye | 19:05 |
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| AJaeger | thanks | 19:05 |
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| mriedem | sdague: stable/liberty g-r change for the requests block https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258112/ | 19:07 |
| dougwig | AJaeger: be careful asking for two, now you have conflicting reviews. :) | 19:07 |
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| AJaeger | dougwig: no worries, I'm fine with not having it as well;) Just wanted to ask since it had +2s and waiting for neutron liasons... | 19:08 |
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| AJaeger | so, let's wait for armax on this 255325 ? | 19:09 |
| AJaeger | david-lyle: regarding trove-dashboard - your change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256605/ - do you have a few mins? | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Increase memory restriction to 9023M https://review.openstack.org/258077 | 19:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: add legacy drivers job for keystone https://review.openstack.org/257566 | 19:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: [WIP] Add puppetlabs-apache 1.8.0? https://review.openstack.org/244835 | 19:11 |
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| * armax looks | 19:11 | |
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| dougwig | AJaeger: yes | 19:13 |
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| AJaeger | david-lyle: hope you backscroll - regarding trove-horizon, we wait for your decision on whether you want to import with history or whether we should merge as is | 19:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add bandit-docs job to gate of Bandit project https://review.openstack.org/257533 | 19:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Python 3.4 support - add py34 gate https://review.openstack.org/257827 | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/glean: Make distro detection global https://review.openstack.org/257616 | 19:26 |
| anteaya | mordred: where in Quebec are you? | 19:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Added new repo for fuel-plugin-qlogic-sriov-vxlan in Openstack NS https://review.openstack.org/257796 | 19:28 |
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| mordred | anteaya: between the vermont border and montreal | 19:28 |
| anteaya | nice | 19:28 |
| mordred | anteaya: so possibly near "St. Patrice de Sherrington" | 19:28 |
| mordred | or "St. Jacques le Mineur" | 19:29 |
| anteaya | what, pray tell, made you decide to go there? | 19:29 |
| mordred | if the GPD is to be believed | 19:29 |
| anteaya | in December? | 19:29 |
| mordred | GPS | 19:29 |
| mordred | anteaya: well | 19:29 |
| * anteaya draws a chair up to the fire | 19:29 | |
| mordred | anteaya: we're taking a road trip from new york to dallas to new orleans back to new york | 19:29 |
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| mordred | anteaya: and decided to swing by boston, vermont and the great lakes | 19:30 |
| mordred | cause why not? | 19:30 |
| anteaya | good call | 19:30 |
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| anteaya | Quebec is on the way from new york to dallas, after all | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add yaml validation job to triple-heat-templates https://review.openstack.org/258122 | 19:32 |
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| mordred | anteaya: sure it is :) | 19:32 |
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| * Zara explores maniphest comments, sees a 'create meme' with a 'llama diorama' button, ??? | 19:33 | |
| anteaya | :) | 19:33 |
| anteaya | Zara: helpful | 19:33 |
| clarkb | it has a sense of humor which you can disable | 19:33 |
| anteaya | mordred: I like your approach to geography | 19:33 |
| clarkb | I am not sure if we have gotten far enough along to ecide if we need to dehumor it or not | 19:33 |
| pleia2 | it does demonstrate that you can use images and things though, which I hope will be valuable to the UX folks :) | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Keystone eventlet gate only in keystone https://review.openstack.org/257999 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Change postgres job to use standard deployment https://review.openstack.org/258006 | 19:34 |
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| Zara | yeah, images sound useful, I was just mystified. xD | 19:35 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 19:35 |
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| anteaya | yeah I don't understand facebook sense of humour myself | 19:35 |
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| mordred | clarkb: my original config had it dehumored | 19:38 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I believe I can help apply de-humor to ruagair's install once we've puppeted things | 19:38 |
| anteaya | is dehumouring it just removing images of llamas? | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: it's sad when you say it that way | 19:40 |
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| pleia2 | (I think there's a switch though) | 19:40 |
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| anteaya | :( | 19:41 |
| Zara | It seemed to say 'llama diorama' in place of the submit button, so I'm not sure if it just meant 'submit' or if it would actually put a llama on the page. | 19:41 |
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| Zara | I didn't want to vandalise a task so I didn't click it. | 19:42 |
| clarkb | I kinda want it to be off by default but then enableable per user | 19:42 |
| clarkb | because I dig the pirate text | 19:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Apoorva Deshpande proposed openstack-infra/ciwatch: Separate votes from Jenkins queues https://review.openstack.org/258125 | 19:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Split vm and bootloader elements https://review.openstack.org/258126 | 19:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Cerqueira proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Adding HTTPS capability to urlib.request/urlopen through ssl context https://review.openstack.org/258127 | 19:50 |
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| fungi | arr | 19:52 |
| anteaya | always a helpful comment | 19:53 |
| anteaya | so informative | 19:53 |
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| jroll | can I snipe someone on the way out of a meeting with a dsg review? :D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257637/ | 19:56 |
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| zackf | Is there anyway to check if a build is stuck? I've been sitting in the check queue for about 4 hours and I'm not sure if that's normal. | 19:59 |
| dougwig | zackf: queued, or running? and does your job have a timeout? changenum? | 20:00 |
| anteaya | jroll: can you get mtreinish's review on that to see if he is happy yet? | 20:00 |
| anteaya | zackf: which patch? | 20:00 |
| zackf | @dougwig 178561 | 20:00 |
| jroll | mtreinish: can you look at 257637 when you have a moment please :) | 20:00 |
| dougwig | zackf: i don't see it running at all: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 20:01 |
| zackf | It was running, it ran all the other tests but has been queued on the gate-tempest-dsvm-ceilometer-mysql-neutron-full test | 20:01 |
| anteaya | zackf: your last job is waiting on a node | 20:01 |
| zackf | hmm i'm seeing it on zuul | 20:01 |
| dougwig | zackf: oh wait, there it is. | 20:01 |
| dougwig | it's queued on a job | 20:01 |
| zackf | ok, so that's normal, nothing to worry about? | 20:01 |
| anteaya | zackf: so it isn't stuck it is queued and waiting on a node | 20:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Single event email worker. https://review.openstack.org/240346 | 20:01 |
| zackf | ok, got it. | 20:02 |
| dougwig | waiting on a node for gate-tempest-dsvm-ceilometer-mysql-neutron-full: queued | 20:02 |
| anteaya | zackf: well it isn't indicative of a problem in and of itself | 20:02 |
| fungi | yeah, in situations like that, it's often that the node which originally got assigned that job died some gristly fate and the job went back into the queue waiting on a new worker assignment | 20:02 |
| zackf | ahh ok, got it, there is no way for me to come to that conclusion is there? | 20:02 |
| fungi | if it happens to a lot of jobs it's often indicative of some sort of connectivity issue or other problem in one of our providers | 20:03 |
| zackf | I see. | 20:03 |
| fungi | zackf: only if you'd seen it previously running that job and then went back to queued | 20:03 |
| dougwig | if it was a weird job, you might check if it's node is correctly defined, but gate-tempest is pretty common. | 20:03 |
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| zackf | Ok, thanks all, so at this point, i'll just make some coffee and wait it out | 20:04 |
| anteaya | zackf: or look at other patches particularly if the have the same job | 20:05 |
| anteaya | zackf: if you can show that many patches with the same job are waiting on nodes that is something worth knowing | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Drew Varner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Experimental bandit job for glance https://review.openstack.org/258130 | 20:06 |
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| zackf | ok, anteaya i'll dig on that now. | 20:07 |
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| anteaya | zackf: while you have coffee | 20:08 |
| zackf | :) | 20:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Drew Varner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Experimental bandit job for glance https://review.openstack.org/258130 | 20:16 |
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| AJaeger | any reviews for ansible jobs (basically cosmetics like templatization and renames) in project-config would be nice: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257530/ | 20:19 |
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| david-lyle | AJaeger: around now | 20:21 |
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| david-lyle | AJaeger: so there is a lot of common code, but there are several additions to allow it to work as a plugin | 20:23 |
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| AJaeger | david-lyle: your call whether to import with history or not - it's just that once we created the repo, we cannot change it. | 20:26 |
| * david-lyle has to read up on git-filter | 20:27 | |
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| anteaya | david-lyle: git filter branch | 20:28 |
| anteaya | david-lyle: lots of fun | 20:28 |
| AJaeger | david-lyle: check how it's done in oslo-incubator for creating new oslo projects | 20:28 |
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| fungi | ianw: (or anyone else) any guesses why i'm seeing this in our nodepool logs over and over, but only for f23 images in rax-ord? http://paste.openstack.org/show/482009/ | 20:49 |
| fungi | OpenStackCloudException: Could not determine capabilities (Inner Exception: No tenant specified) | 20:51 |
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| clarkb | fungi: yes thats the swift breakage in shade | 20:52 |
| clarkb | a patch to workaround it has merged but I don't think it has been released | 20:52 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:52 |
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| clarkb | fungi: the underlying issue is that swiftclient only ever auths once | 20:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: then the token expires and it can no longer get the capaiblities in our long running daemon | 20:52 |
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| clarkb | fungi: workaround in shade is make a new client whenever doing the swift image based uploads | 20:53 |
| david-lyle | AJaeger: so basically, I need to manually generate a list of files to keep, figure out the root part, populate a repo with the using git filter-branch, remake all the edits to the paths, and add all the new files back in? Just trying to see if I am following the example | 20:53 |
| fungi | was looking at the nodepool logs trying to divine whether the terribleness on the nodes graph was a problem in a provider, but it's looking like it's just gate resets burning up our quota | 20:53 |
| anteaya | ruagair: so phabricator doesn't seem to provide tooltips | 20:54 |
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| anteaya | ruagair: I'm guessing the icon in the top rightmost position that is an arrow pointing right means log out | 20:55 |
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| anteaya | ruagair: I pressed it and the only response I see is a small gear icon in the lower right corner spinning clockwise | 20:55 |
| anteaya | ruagair: it has been spinning for some time, I'm guessing logging out is a challenge at the moment | 20:56 |
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| anteaya | if indeed that icon in the top righthand corner does mean log out | 20:56 |
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| anteaya | it may mean click hear to see spinning gear in bottom right corner | 20:57 |
| anteaya | and there goes the gear | 20:57 |
| anteaya | I don | 20:57 |
| anteaya | 't appear to be logged out | 20:58 |
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| AJaeger | david-lyle: I would generate the list of files and then move files around with an extra commit. And you could import just that and add the new files in via gerrit review or add the new files in directly. | 21:03 |
| AJaeger | david-lyle: I haven't used git-files for some time, so can't give too much help and I'm off in a few minutes, hope others can help | 21:03 |
| ruagair | I've also noticed the lack of tooltips anteaya. I've not experienced any issues logging out either. | 21:03 |
| * ruagair goes and tests. | 21:03 | |
| ruagair | Logging out worked here :-/ | 21:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test that job regexes in zuul/layout match https://review.openstack.org/258147 | 21:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/257691 | 21:04 |
| anteaya | ruagair: what do you do to log out | 21:04 |
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| clarkb | I too was able to log out | 21:04 |
| ruagair | Pressed the logout icon. | 21:04 |
| anteaya | ruagair: the icon in the top right hand corner that looks like an arrow? | 21:05 |
| david-lyle | AJaeger: I'll give it a whirl, while trying to ignore the completed plugin repo :) | 21:05 |
| ruagair | (far left icon with the righ tpoonting arrow) | 21:05 |
| ruagair | Yes :-) | 21:05 |
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| anteaya | oh on the left side? | 21:05 |
| david-lyle | AJaeger: thanks for the pointers | 21:05 |
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| AJaeger | david-lyle: you're welcome | 21:05 |
| ruagair | Sorry, far right. | 21:05 |
| * ruagair has only had a couple of hours sleep. | 21:05 | |
| anteaya | oh the one I was pressing | 21:05 |
| anteaya | nope just spinning gear in the bottom right hand corner again | 21:06 |
| clarkb | anteaya: it then pops up an are you sure popup and you click it and it takes you to the login page | 21:06 |
| anteaya | I'll just close the tab | 21:06 |
| clarkb | anteaya: do you have js disabled or something? | 21:06 |
| ruagair | Yolanda was having routing issues to the HPE cloud where this hosted. I wonder if you're having similar issues? | 21:06 |
| AJaeger | infra-root, ianw, anteaya: What do you think of my test in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258147/ ? This was my first step in my christmas cleanup where I fixed broken regexes and removed the unused ones. I would appreciate reviews whether this is fine. | 21:06 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: I do not have js disabled to the best of my knowledge | 21:06 |
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| anteaya | clarkb ruagair I do not get an are you sure popup | 21:07 |
| ruagair | What hapens with a shift-reload anteaya? | 21:07 |
| fungi | maybe some popup blocker browser plugin? | 21:07 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: white space | 21:08 |
| anteaya | I'll try chrome | 21:08 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: do you like the general approach? | 21:08 |
| * AJaeger fixes whitespace.. | 21:08 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a gate-bindep-fallback-ubuntu-trusty job https://review.openstack.org/256122 | 21:09 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: ahhhhh | 21:09 |
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| pleia2 | AJaeger: so job-list.txt will have all the job names, expanded from templates? | 21:09 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: let me see | 21:09 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: I don't know yet, sorry trying to get logging out working, let me see if I can get a headspace to think about the general approach | 21:10 |
| anteaya | ruagair: can't seem to log in via chrome | 21:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: unpin bundler for unit & syntax jobs https://review.openstack.org/257885 | 21:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test that job regexes in zuul/layout match https://review.openstack.org/258147 | 21:11 |
| anteaya | fungi: the only add-ons I have in firefox right now are firebug and an ubuntu default and both are disabled | 21:11 |
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| ianw | AJaeger: comment also says pass if file is missing, but returns False (thinking about approach :) | 21:11 |
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| AJaeger | ianw, we have errors=False and return errors basically | 21:12 |
| anteaya | ruagair: connection timeout in chrome | 21:12 |
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| anteaya | ruagair: perhaps I can no longer reach the instance for it to log me out | 21:12 |
| AJaeger | ian, returning True means failure in that scrip, so we would need to rework the logic... | 21:12 |
| ianw | AJaeger: ooohhh, yeah my fail reading that | 21:13 |
| AJaeger | pleia2: yes, run-layout.sh generates all the job-names | 21:13 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: take your time... | 21:13 |
| ruagair | Works for me in Chrome anteaya. I'm even more strongly suspecting routing issues now :-/ | 21:13 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: thanks | 21:14 |
| anteaya | ruagair: yeah I think that is what is happening | 21:14 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I like having that lint rule will help keep that list under control | 21:14 |
| fungi | ianw: 257172 is safe on centos 7? | 21:15 |
| anteaya | ruagair: http://paste.openstack.org/show/482010/ | 21:15 |
| anteaya | ruagair: I can't ping you | 21:15 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: I found a few problems with that linting over the weekend, see my recent changes or see https://review.openstack.org/257031 which is a result of this | 21:15 |
| AJaeger | thanks, clarkb | 21:15 |
| anteaya | ruagair: so nothing to do with phabricator | 21:16 |
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| anteaya | ruagair: where is the instance hosted? | 21:16 |
| ianw | fungi: well i think it's overwritten by cloud-config/glean/networkmanager etc | 21:16 |
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| ianw | fungi: i don't see how we can really determine what interfaces are there at image build time | 21:16 |
| AJaeger | Btw. there're two more linting rules for project-config proposed: https://review.openstack.org/257051 and https://review.openstack.org/246034 | 21:16 |
| fungi | ianw: got it. so for _us_ it's fine, but other consumers of the yum element in dib are possibly going to break if they're using it for older rh-based platforms and not using something to wrangle the network interfaces? | 21:17 |
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| ruagair | HPE cloid west anteaya | 21:17 |
| ruagair | cloud | 21:17 |
| fungi | that still exists? ;) | 21:18 |
| ruagair | for now :-) | 21:18 |
| ianw | fungi: well, yeah, yum-minimal ... if they rely on dhcp i guess | 21:18 |
| ianw | AJaeger: Regex ^gate-openstack-ansible.*-bashate$ has no matches in job list ... expected? | 21:19 |
| AJaeger | ianw, yes, see 257031 as well as my comment | 21:19 |
| clarkb | hrm mention of VPN on OSIC stuff | 21:20 |
| clarkb | how do we feel about needing a VPN connection to hit openstack APIs? | 21:20 |
| fungi | that seems... unnecessary? | 21:21 |
| AJaeger | ianw, now you approved our test case that the test is valid ;) | 21:21 |
| clarkb | ya ight need more clarification on that | 21:21 |
| fungi | are they trying to avoid supplying globally-routed ip addresses for anything i wonder? | 21:21 |
| fungi | (including instances?) | 21:21 |
| * AJaeger sends an update and compiles the pattern... | 21:21 | |
| clarkb | that wasn't clear either so I can ask for clarification | 21:21 |
| fungi | worth confirming | 21:21 |
| fungi | definitely | 21:22 |
| anteaya | ruagair: well I can't seem to ping your instance | 21:22 |
| anteaya | ruagair: so I don't know what to do at this point | 21:22 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: yeah that seems odd | 21:23 |
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| anteaya | ruagair: I can just close the tab and not worry about it, if that makes your life easier | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove unused filter on ansible-..-bashate https://review.openstack.org/257031 | 21:24 |
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| AJaeger | wow, git review takes ages ;( something's broken ;( | 21:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test that job regexes in zuul/layout match https://review.openstack.org/258147 | 21:25 |
| AJaeger | finally... ^ | 21:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a gate-bindep-fallback-ubuntu-trusty job https://review.openstack.org/256122 | 21:26 |
| AJaeger | Time to leave, have a great day... | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: OIDC - OpenId Connect Implementation https://review.openstack.org/198458 | 21:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Cerqueira proposed openstack/python-jenkins: for HTTPS with SSL context, removed not used import and added context to a tests https://review.openstack.org/258156 | 21:31 |
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| anteaya | ianw: you +2'd 258147, I see it in your comment but don't see the +2 in the table of reviewers, do you see your green check mark in the table? | 21:37 |
| anteaya | oh sorry you +2'd patchset 2, it just landed after andreas submitted patchset 3 | 21:38 |
| ianw | anteya: yeah, he added the compile() | 21:38 |
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| anteaya | yeah I see that, just was confused since usually you can't vote on old patchsets, must have been a race | 21:39 |
| ianw | anteaya: yeah, i had it open. actually, i might time the difference between reading that once & the existing code. probably in the noise | 21:40 |
| anteaya | okay | 21:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a gate-bindep-fallback-ubuntu-trusty job https://review.openstack.org/256122 | 21:42 |
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| ianw | anteaya: added a comment, difference is minimal, about 0.5s | 21:48 |
| anteaya | ianw: thanks for looking into that | 21:49 |
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| anteaya | ianw: did you want to +A it? | 21:50 |
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| jpeeler | is this the right place to report jenkins fatal errors? | 22:00 |
| jpeeler | like this: https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-tripleo-ci-f22-ha/55/console | 22:00 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: if you want to send along that openstackid.org stuff, I'll review it and start working on ubuntu 14.04 | 22:01 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: just a sec and i'll give you the bigger picture so you know what the plan looks like | 22:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Dimitry Ushakov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP: LXC experimental triage https://review.openstack.org/258161 | 22:05 |
| clarkb | jpeeler: eithr job timed out, job broke networking or networking went away usually | 22:05 |
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| jpeeler | clarkb: what's the time limit for a job to time out? looks like it had been around 1.5 hours | 22:07 |
| clarkb | jpeeler: depnds on the job | 22:08 |
| clarkb | you can look in the jjb config | 22:08 |
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| jpeeler | appears to be 175 | 22:10 |
| jpeeler | hightly doubt the patchset would cause networking issues | 22:11 |
| jpeeler | clarkb: what would cause the networking to go away? | 22:11 |
| clarkb | jpeeler: anything between red hat and rax falling over | 22:11 |
| clarkb | neutron NAT, l3/cogent/etc, local hardware blip | 22:11 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: so to start back at the beginning of this, once openstackid was in production there was a bit of scope creep where the foundation wanted to have some lookups for metadata pertaining to things like the (then) new "openstack marketplace" | 22:13 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: so tipit had started working on implementing it as part of openstackid, even though it was pretty much unrelated to authentication/identification and had more to do with authorization for modifying some stuff on the www.openstack.org site | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Single event email worker. https://review.openstack.org/240346 | 22:14 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: after some discussion they were convinced that splitting those resources out into a separate api server that could be run elsewhere was a safer implementation | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add automated database config retrieval https://review.openstack.org/258088 | 22:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove grenade from PROJECTS list https://review.openstack.org/234508 | 22:15 |
| fungi | pabelanger: that was the genesis of the openstackid-resources service. however by the time they started working on it, the "state of the art" in the php-based framework they were using (laravel) had moved on and they wanted to run it with a newer version which needed ubuntu trusty instead of precise (which was the latest lts when they were finalizing openstackid itself) | 22:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove clients from default PROJECTS list https://review.openstack.org/234509 | 22:16 |
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| jeblair | zaro: it might be helpful to add something about gerrit upgrade to your commit subjects... 'Add automated database config retrieval' looks pretty general :) | 22:16 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: prior to deploying the new openstackid-resources.openstack.org server, we want to get openstackid.org running on the same versions of php/laravel as openstackid-resources needs | 22:16 |
| pabelanger | fungi: ack | 22:17 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: and to make sure we can confirm it for an upgrade maintenance, before that we need the dev site, openstackid-dev.openstack.org, upgraded to trusty | 22:17 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add inventory unit tests https://review.openstack.org/258167 | 22:17 |
| clarkb | ok finally got the clarification email sent off toe osic | 22:17 |
| esp | howdy folks, can anyone take a peek at this and tell help us figure out why it won’t merge please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188184/ | 22:17 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ | 22:17 |
| fungi | pabelanger: so the step we're at now is that we need the puppet-openstack module tweaked to let us run openstackid-dev.openstack.org on trusty while openstackid.org continues running on precise for a little while | 22:18 |
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| * esp sorry clarkb and fungi | 22:18 | |
| fungi | clarkb: thanks! | 22:18 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: i'll dig up the change which had started down that road and pass that along now | 22:19 |
| pabelanger | fungi: okay, ya. If there is existing work, I can continue with that | 22:19 |
| anteaya | esp: it is currently in the check queue waiting on nodes | 22:20 |
| anteaya | esp: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 22:20 |
| esp | thx anteaya, much appreciated | 22:20 |
| anteaya | welcome | 22:21 |
| fungi | pabelanger: it looks like this merged a while back so we're at least testing it there https://review.openstack.org/221428 | 22:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Improve gerrit 2.8 cleanup script https://review.openstack.org/258088 | 22:23 |
| zaro | jeblair: ^ this what you mean? | 22:23 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: actually, it looks like this might have been one of the last missing bits to support it https://review.openstack.org/245124 | 22:24 |
| zaro | esp: yo, new peeps have surrounded your cube. wanted to know if you were real | 22:25 |
| esp | lol | 22:25 |
| esp | thx zaro | 22:26 |
| esp | I’ve been meaning to head in there to remove the dust. | 22:26 |
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| esp | zaro: is it louder? good discussions going on about sales and stuff? | 22:26 |
| fungi | pabelanger: so... actually, i should give this another try and see what happens when i launch an openstackid-dev on trusty | 22:26 |
| pabelanger | fungi: sure | 22:27 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: unless you have time to test that | 22:27 |
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| zaro | haha, told them you is a unicorn. yeah, loud, but usually only from your neighbor. | 22:28 |
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| zaro | fungi: gerrit reindex performance, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/repo-discuss/Ux6mr9jvuUA | 22:31 |
| clarkb | jpeeler: too follow up I would try rerunning, if its persistent we should see if we can track down network trouble between the clouds if it isn't persistent then I doubt there is much we can do to fix anything | 22:32 |
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| clarkb | anyone been able to access their civs name poll yet? I can't get mine to load | 22:33 |
| zaro | fungi: i think when i was testing it initially i wasn't comparing quite the same runs. the reindex on upgrade takes about 1hr for me while subsequent reindex takes about 1/4 of the time. That's why i thought --threads param made a difference for us but it really has no effect. | 22:33 |
| fungi | zaro: aha, so caching/optimization | 22:33 |
| fungi | that's too bad | 22:34 |
| zaro | yeah, i believe so | 22:34 |
| jpeeler | clarkb: well i guess it automatically requeued itself, so we'll see. these jobs take forever though, so it'll definitely take until tomorrow | 22:34 |
| pabelanger | fungi: Not this evening, but I can first thing in the morning | 22:35 |
| pabelanger | and don't mind | 22:35 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: thanks! it's appreciated. if it works, i'll go ahead and do the openstackid-dev replacement server as soon as you've confirmed whether the module is smart enough on its own or whether we need to add some additional parameterization to be able to pass the right differences in from the openstack_project::openstackid_dev class | 22:38 |
| pabelanger | fungi: np, whatever I can help with | 22:38 |
| fungi | being able to specify the redis version there looks like it might have been the only missing piece, but it's hard to know without more testing | 22:39 |
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| fungi | unfortunately i don't think our current puppet apply jobs are going deep enough to test what broke the last time i tried to deploy the replacement server | 22:39 |
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| clarkb | civs eventually 500'd for me will try again later | 22:41 |
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| fungi | i still haven't received a voting e-mail | 22:45 |
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| fungi | er, ballot | 22:45 |
| fungi | thingy | 22:45 |
| fungi | you know | 22:45 |
| fungi | that | 22:45 |
| fungi | anyway, i should find food for to put in mouth hole. back later | 22:46 |
| pabelanger | I got one about 45mins ago | 22:46 |
| jeblair | perhaps we are a civs dos | 22:47 |
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| jeblair | between nix, nameless, and null, we have a whole lotta nothin this time around :) | 22:47 |
| clarkb | ok responded to ovh with many thanks | 22:47 |
| clarkb | responded to magnum thread | 22:48 |
| anteaya | I have not recieved my name poll email | 22:48 |
| clarkb | I think thats it for the memory thing | 22:49 |
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| clarkb | while I have people here | 22:49 |
| clarkb | if VPN is required for api endpoints and/or VM access how do we feel about that? | 22:49 |
| clarkb | I think I am a little more on board with it if it is just for api access | 22:50 |
| clarkb | less so for VMs | 22:50 |
| jeblair | for what? | 22:50 |
| anteaya | I'm curious as to why it is required | 22:50 |
| jeblair | (like, econtext) | 22:50 |
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| anteaya | the rackspace/intel account request | 22:50 |
| anteaya | I forget the acronym that means that | 22:50 |
| clarkb | jeblair: osic responded and said "we will setup a VPN for you" and I responded "what is VPN actually required for and what type of VPN are we walking" | 22:50 |
| clarkb | s/walkting/talking/ | 22:50 |
| jeblair | i kind of don't know what to type | 22:51 |
| jeblair | i just keep hitting c-a c-k alot. | 22:52 |
| clarkb | :) | 22:52 |
| mikal | clarkb: did they say the word "rackconnect"? | 22:52 |
| clarkb | mikal: no just "VPN" | 22:52 |
| mikal | clarkb: where does nodepool run? Rackspace public cloud? | 22:52 |
| clarkb | so my question was two parts basically "what is it required for" and "what kind of VPN" | 22:52 |
| clarkb | mikal: yes | 22:52 |
| jeblair | mikal: currently, yes | 22:52 |
| mikal | So, rackconnect is how you wire up a public cloud virtual network to a physical network in our DC | 22:53 |
| clarkb | because I am unable to assert anything about VPNability without knowing more | 22:53 |
| mikal | I would think its transparent to the victims | 22:53 |
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| mikal | Its just the networking mechanics (which is a VPN thingie) | 22:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make ironic non-voting on tempest too https://review.openstack.org/258179 | 22:53 |
| jeblair | is osic in a rax dc? | 22:54 |
| clarkb | mikal: we don't use cloud virtual networks | 22:54 |
| mikal | So, I would suggest just listing your requirements... | 22:54 |
| mikal | jeblair: half is | 22:54 |
| clarkb | mikal: we did :) | 22:54 |
| clarkb | mikal: our requirement was public internet access | 22:54 |
| mikal | Fair enough then, I'll butt out | 22:54 |
| clarkb | anyways will see what they say | 22:54 |
| mikal | Although I'm not sure I see why jenkins workers need to be accessible from the internet | 22:54 |
| mikal | That seems... brave to me | 22:54 |
| clarkb | mikal: because jenkins masters live in arbitrary locations | 22:55 |
| jeblair | mikal: so that we can run things on them? :) | 22:55 |
| clarkb | when you have many clouds trying to work around the internet is silly | 22:55 |
| mikal | You've made your security posture much more complicated though | 22:55 |
| mikal | And jenkins masters run in well known locations | 22:55 |
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| jeblair | it's actually quite simple | 22:56 |
| mikal | Those locations might be on different ntblocks, but you know where they are | 22:56 |
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| jeblair | (it's worth noting that we don't particularly mind if they only have ipv6 addresses, but no one has taken us up on that yet) | 22:56 |
| jroll | clarkb: just curious, what are you wanting to run on osic? | 22:56 |
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| anteaya | infra tests | 22:57 |
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| jroll | ah, cool | 22:58 |
| jroll | what I've been hearing is they're generally for short-lived experiments, but hey | 22:58 |
| clarkb | mikal: ssh with keys only and we turn you off in a couple hours | 22:58 |
| jeblair | jroll: most of ours are < 2 hours :) | 22:58 |
| mikal | Like I said, I'm butting out... | 22:58 |
| jroll | hah | 22:58 |
| jroll | jeblair: I should say server reservations are for short-lived things, there are exceptions though | 22:59 |
| jroll | for example, I'm working on grabbing a few for ironic CI on ipmitool driver | 22:59 |
| clarkb | jroll: they reached out to us | 22:59 |
| jroll | oh, even cooler | 22:59 |
| clarkb | and said fill out the form and we will see what we can do so I did, stil lworking through the response | 22:59 |
| jroll | omfra-cloud2! | 23:00 |
| mikal | jroll: I think they're talking about carving a chunk out permanently | 23:00 |
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| jroll | mikal: ya, that would be cool | 23:00 |
| jeblair | another omfra-cloud region would be great (we definitely want to expand, but have been focusing on getting one up before we go around asking for more) | 23:00 |
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| jroll | jeblair: better yet, omfra-metal-cloud :) | 23:03 |
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| pabelanger | I will be sad if we stop referring to omfra-cloud as omfra-cloud | 23:04 |
| pabelanger | just saying | 23:04 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger: it's been a week and has seen no sign of abating. | 23:04 |
| jeblair | (better yet, it shortens to omfra) | 23:04 |
| nibalizer | also i keep putting omfra in configs | 23:04 |
| clarkb | ya I think the name may stick :) | 23:05 |
| nibalizer | i've had my head in #puppethack all day, is there talk of another omfracloud region? | 23:05 |
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| clarkb | ok floating IPs are on the internets only API endpoints are not | 23:06 |
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| clarkb | it is an SSL VPN (not sure what that means in terms of client/nodepool access) | 23:07 |
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| clarkb | and VPN is only for API endpoint access | 23:07 |
| jeblair | that seems really weird to me | 23:09 |
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| jeblair | i mean plenty of openstacks have internet addressible endpoints. | 23:09 |
| ruagair | ICMP is not allowed via my default rules anteaya, that would be why ping fails. | 23:09 |
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| anteaya | okay | 23:11 |
| anteaya | so how do I test if I can reach your site? | 23:11 |
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| clarkb | just back of napkin thinking about this, I think options would be run an openvpn to connect and set up routing rules that force connections to those IP(s) over openvpn interface; run separate nodepool with only VPN access; set up proxy to front VPN (this likely makes security people angry); cry a lot; anything else? | 23:12 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: It is even wierder considering how you can secure those endpoints using... ssl | 23:13 |
| jeblair | clarkb: how many instances are we talking about? | 23:14 |
| clarkb | jeblair: the numbers I used were in the replace hpcloud range and no one screamed no | 23:14 |
| clarkb | ~600 test nodes | 23:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb: we would have to run this on puppetmaster too | 23:14 |
| clarkb | oh right | 23:15 |
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| clarkb | for ansible and other client access there | 23:15 |
| jeblair | clarkb: my preference would be not to run a vpn. it just seems like a waste of effort. | 23:15 |
| clarkb | thats definitely my prefernece too | 23:15 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ would you like to weight in? fungi is also cc'd on the thread so might have more feedback on my interpretation | 23:16 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i don't think separate nodepool is feasible; we need a single nodepool for accurate operation | 23:16 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: I think it would be doable if we did funny things like different flavors there but yes not ideal | 23:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb: that wouldn't be HA | 23:17 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: and we would _definitely_ want something on a vpn to be ha -- so that we didn't tank when the vpn inevitably breaks | 23:18 |
| clarkb | the best option imo if we have to use a vpn is the proxy | 23:18 |
| clarkb | but thats the sort of security circumvention that gets you in trouble | 23:19 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: You can do the proxy thing but host it in a way only nodepool can access | 23:19 |
| greghaynes | ssl client certs or somesuxh | 23:19 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: nodepool and puppetmaster yes | 23:19 |
| clarkb | or even just iptables | 23:19 |
| jeblair | yeah. my hope would be that we could discover whatever misapprehension causes them to think they need a vpn and put them in touch with people who can allay their fears. :) | 23:19 |
| greghaynes | ya, or that | 23:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add Infra Cloud modules to modules.env https://review.openstack.org/209617 | 23:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Add dib-python element https://review.openstack.org/256071 | 23:24 |
| dgonzalez | hi sdague, are you here? | 23:25 |
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| ianw | greghaynes / SpamapS : so git caching in dib ... i think something is going on. "git log" tells me i'm at a certain changeset in the ~/.cache version of the tree, but the files in there do not reflect that | 23:33 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: uh oh | 23:34 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: that code all lives in source-repositories | 23:34 |
| greghaynes | I haven't looked at it in a *long* time because it hasn't broken yet | 23:35 |
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| anteaya | dgonzalez: sdague tends to pack it in around 21:00 utc | 23:36 |
| anteaya | dgonzalez: perhaps try him prior to 21:00 utc another day | 23:36 |
| greghaynes | ianw: From what it looks like we dont necessarially assert the desired state on the cache, we clone from it | 23:36 |
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| dgonzalez | anteaya: ok thanks, i will try it again tomorrow! | 23:37 |
| ianw | greghaynes: maybe that's it ... ~/.cache/image-create/source-repositories/foo_* is checked out when created, but never updated? | 23:38 |
| greghaynes | ianw: we fetch refs in to it but dont check them out | 23:38 |
| greghaynes | ianw: at least that is how I read the code | 23:38 |
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| jroll | could use another +2 on a dsg change, when someone has a moment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257637/ | 23:39 |
| ianw | greghaynes: right, so we clone it once, when building the cache, and from then on, only fetching stuff | 23:39 |
| greghaynes | ianw: I think so, yep | 23:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade the stdlib module to 4.10.0 https://review.openstack.org/235005 | 23:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Add logic to work with old and new mysql module https://review.openstack.org/258193 | 23:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade mysql module to 3.6.1 https://review.openstack.org/257640 | 23:41 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: so why not do a "--bare" clone? | 23:49 |
| greghaynes | ianw: I can't think of a reason | 23:50 |
| greghaynes | ianw: It would be more neat to remove that git logic altogether and depend on zuul-cloner | 23:50 |
| greghaynes | IMO | 23:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/requirements: Bump notifier up to 1.0.3 https://review.openstack.org/256900 | 23:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add job inheritance and start refactoring https://review.openstack.org/258198 | 23:55 |
| jeblair | (that's kind of a complete mess; but hopefully i can start putting things back together after that) | 23:56 |
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