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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Error on invocation of setup.py install https://review.openstack.org/177558 | 02:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Loudly warn about invocation of setup.py install https://review.openstack.org/177557 | 02:17 |
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| mordred | Shrews: ^^ fixed your issue I hope | 02:36 |
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| Shrews | mordred: nope :( | 03:28 |
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| hassaanp | the comment trigger for jenkins is giving me issues can someone please shed some light. I am using gerrit trigger version 2.13 | 10:31 |
| hassaanp | I have also used gerrit trigger versions 2.10.1 and 2.12 - patchset trigger works seamlessly but the comment trigger is not working | 10:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Raise a shade exception on broken volumes https://review.openstack.org/176550 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add a method for getting an endpoint https://review.openstack.org/177314 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make keystone endpoints work like the others https://review.openstack.org/177315 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: WiP: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP support https://review.openstack.org/177036 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add early service fail and active check method https://review.openstack.org/177316 | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix functional tests to run against live clouds https://review.openstack.org/177599 | 14:00 |
| mordred | Shrews, dguerri, SpamapS: ^^ rebased the whole stack - added a few tests | 14:01 |
| mordred | hrm | 14:01 |
| mordred | I should rearrange those a little | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix functional tests to run against live clouds https://review.openstack.org/177599 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add a method for getting an endpoint https://review.openstack.org/177314 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make keystone endpoints work like the others https://review.openstack.org/177315 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: WiP: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP support https://review.openstack.org/177036 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add early service fail and active check method https://review.openstack.org/177316 | 15:39 |
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| mordred | Shrews, dguerri, SpamapS, yolanda, clarkb, fungi: ^^ that stack should now be ready - reviews addressed, tests added, bugs fixed | 15:40 |
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| mordred | GAH. silly python34 | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make keystone endpoints work like the others https://review.openstack.org/177315 | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: WiP: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP support https://review.openstack.org/177036 | 16:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add early service fail and active check method https://review.openstack.org/177316 | 16:31 |
| * mordred has goal of making the entire infra sunday scrollback be his patches | 16:31 | |
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| nibalizer | well on the way | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make warlock filtering match dict filtering https://review.openstack.org/177612 | 16:53 |
| AJaeger | fungi, modred, jeblair, clarkb, jhesketh : Building api-site I get: " Could not install requirement sphinxcontrib-blockdiag from http://pypi.DFW.openstack.org/packages/2.7/s/sphinxcontrib-blockdiag/sphinxcontrib_blockdiag-1.5.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl#md5=0b00cd0eefce75a700f7826cb2848ed1 (from -r /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-api-site-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/test-requirements.txt (line 12)) because of | 16:54 |
| AJaeger | error 404 Client Error: Not Found" | 16:54 |
| AJaeger | For example, see https://review.openstack.org/174495 | 16:54 |
| AJaeger | this seems persistent ;( | 16:54 |
| AJaeger | There was a release on pypi today for the package, seems that the mirroring did not work at all ;( | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add inventory command to shade https://review.openstack.org/175891 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Raise a shade exception on broken volumes https://review.openstack.org/176550 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add a method for getting an endpoint https://review.openstack.org/177314 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: WiP: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP support https://review.openstack.org/177036 | 17:00 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: that's not pleasing | 17:00 |
| * AJaeger just unblocked api-site, blockdiag was not used, so removing the requirement works as well. fungi, mordred , jeblair, clarkb, jhesketh : No need to ruin your Sunday. | 17:00 | |
| mordred | AJaeger: ah - well, one less requirement is always good | 17:01 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: it's not and should be fixed eventually - but continue with making today "Mordred's patch sunday" ;) | 17:01 |
| mordred | AJaeger: there are no errors in the mirror sync log | 17:01 |
| AJaeger | mordred: see https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-api-site-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/368/console | 17:01 |
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| AJaeger | downloading of the file fails for me | 17:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add design for an object interface https://review.openstack.org/164506 | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split iterate_timeout into its own file https://review.openstack.org/177615 | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Add a docstring to the Task class https://review.openstack.org/177235 | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Do not cache unsteady state images https://review.openstack.org/177494 | 17:28 |
| mordred | clarkb: ^^ SpamapS pushed a follow up patch to the one you'd -1'd. I'm happy with both now | 17:29 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: for some reason bandersnatch thinks the pypi json says sphinxcontrib_blockdiag-1.5.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl was deleted, but pypi.python.org is still serving it | 19:07 |
| fungi | dstufft: ^ interesting sunday weirdness | 19:08 |
| fungi | 2015-04-26 13:10:02,838 INFO: Removing deleted file /srv/static/mirror/web/packages/2.7/s/sphinxcontrib-blockdiag/sphinxcontrib_blockdiag-1.5.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl | 19:08 |
| fungi | that happened when getting serial 1521643 | 19:09 |
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| mordred | wow. ubuntu-trusty image with all the cached repos in VHD format for rax is 1.8G | 19:18 |
| fungi | that seems largeish | 19:19 |
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| mordred | it's not small | 19:26 |
| greghaynes | mordred: does it compress? | 19:27 |
| greghaynes | or rather, does it compress well | 19:27 |
| fungi | honeycomb's big? | 19:27 |
| greghaynes | ya ya ya | 19:27 |
| mordred | greghaynes: aroo? | 19:28 |
| mordred | greghaynes: oh - well, I mean, I dunno - but I have to upload to rax in vhd format ... | 19:28 |
| mordred | (I didn't build this time with qcow2, just because I'm testing one cloud at a time manually right now) | 19:28 |
| greghaynes | yes, it wouldnt be bad for storage though, we keep around at least 1 extra set per image IIRC | 19:28 |
| fungi | storing these isn't really an issue | 19:29 |
| greghaynes | ah, I thought we had some big chat about space recently | 19:29 |
| mordred | ya. I'm more just wow-ing that it's big | 19:29 |
| mordred | mainly just to plan how much we need | 19:29 |
| mordred | we live in a magical world of limitless resources | 19:29 |
| greghaynes | hah | 19:29 |
| fungi | i gave nodepool 0.5tb for building and storing them, so there's plenty of room for now and we can make that bigger if we want | 19:30 |
| greghaynes | well, then. :) | 19:30 |
| mordred | fungi: speaking of - if we add runabove as a cloud, we're going to have a mild problem having a pypi mirror in their cloud | 19:30 |
| fungi | mainly concerned about time it take to upload them to glance every day | 19:30 |
| mordred | fungi: since they don't have cinder volumes | 19:30 |
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| lifeless | fungi: mordred: oh hai, since you're both active today... pbr | 19:30 |
| fungi | mordred: how much local disk space do their instances get? | 19:31 |
| mordred | lifeless: oh hai | 19:31 |
| lifeless | I've -2'd mordreds patch, but if you wanted to talk about it... | 19:31 |
| mordred | fungi: 200G is the biggest you can get | 19:31 |
| lifeless | I'm here (though tech public holiday today) | 19:31 |
| mordred | lifeless: well, I'm fine not erroring on things | 19:31 |
| mordred | lifeless: you make a good point | 19:31 |
| mordred | lifeless: do you also feel as strongly about not giving people warnings? | 19:31 |
| mordred | I mean, I hate the level of blackmagic and confusion that goes on | 19:31 |
| lifeless | mordred: yes, because of the same fundamental thing | 19:31 |
| fungi | mordred: we have 145gb in /srv for our pypi mirrors right now, so could probably squeak by on that for a bit | 19:31 |
| mordred | fungi: yah - it's not a hard fail problem - but we'll be squeaky | 19:32 |
| mordred | lifeless: the "there is nothing the user can do about it" problem? | 19:32 |
| lifeless | mordred: setup.py install is part of the interface that has to work, it just doesn't have to work with the side effects of easy install | 19:32 |
| lifeless | mordred: I'd totally support a patch to neuter install_requires easy_installation from within pbr. | 19:32 |
| mordred | that's already there | 19:32 |
| mordred | as in - the first patch you like will do that | 19:32 |
| mordred | which is the thing I kinda want to warn people about - if you easy_install an openstack thing once we land that patch, you will not get any dependencies | 19:33 |
| lifeless | mordred: the one that strips calling pip ? | 19:33 |
| fungi | the arguments you make are reasonable though. i just think it's unfortunate that we can't support python setup.py install (or develop) in the normal end-user use case, but also can't provide a reasonable error to the user telling them not to run that | 19:33 |
| mordred | lifeless: yah | 19:33 |
| mordred | fungi: ++ | 19:34 |
| mordred | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175369/ | 19:34 |
| lifeless | mordred: ack, I thought it reverted to the baseline behaviour | 19:34 |
| lifeless | mordred: but this is better | 19:34 |
| mordred | lifeless: yah. it should make things better for everyone EXCEPT - it's going to silently and confusingly not do what people expect if they python setup.py install or easy_install something | 19:34 |
| mordred | which is a real shame | 19:35 |
| lifeless | fungi: so yeah, I can't think of a good way to tell 'user' vs 'build system for something with dep support' | 19:35 |
| lifeless | fungi: if we can crack that, then we're rich :) | 19:35 |
| mordred | lifeless: can we not just add zc.buildout to our list of things to detect if we're running inside of? | 19:35 |
| mordred | I mean, I gotta say I don't particularly care about any non-pip things other than zc.buildout tbh - and I only care about that beceause I like jim fulton personally | 19:36 |
| lifeless | mordred: and configure (there's AC_PYTHON out there) | 19:36 |
| mordred | but I'm an extremist | 19:36 |
| lifeless | mordred: and ... | 19:36 |
| mordred | lifeless: meh | 19:36 |
| mordred | *this is me not caring about people installing python with autotools*( | 19:36 |
| lifeless | backing up | 19:36 |
| lifeless | there are two routes to easy_install | 19:36 |
| mordred | lifeless: granted - you're righ t- I'm just not caring about them :) | 19:36 |
| lifeless | easy-install foo | 19:36 |
| mordred | yup | 19:37 |
| lifeless | python setup.py install $thing-using-easy-install | 19:37 |
| lifeless | erm | 19:37 |
| mordred | $thing-with-install-requires | 19:37 |
| lifeless | I mean python $setup.py-of-thing-using-easy-install install | 19:37 |
| mordred | yes | 19:37 |
| lifeless | mordred: actually no, see distutils doesn't do easy-install | 19:37 |
| mordred | right | 19:37 |
| mordred | but setuptools does | 19:37 |
| lifeless | its a blip, but a huge one, that setuptools does | 19:38 |
| lifeless | buildout and pip as the two biggest installation tools out there do what they do to avoid the insanity that is easy-install | 19:38 |
| lifeless | so | 19:38 |
| lifeless | fundamentally I want to be able to close the inevitable corner case bugs with a faq, not 'oh thats legitimate lets fix pbr more' | 19:39 |
| mordred | lifeless: so - buildout invokes setup.py install in such a way as to avoid easy_install getting invoked, right? | 19:39 |
| lifeless | you know, I'm not sure | 19:41 |
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| mordred | lifeless: actually | 19:42 |
| mordred | lifeless: it looks like buildout explicitly uses easy_install | 19:42 |
| mordred | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175369/ | 19:42 |
| mordred | gah | 19:42 |
| mordred | https://github.com/buildout/buildout/blob/master/doc/tutorial.txt#L141 | 19:42 |
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| lifeless | --single-version-externally-managed | 19:43 |
| lifeless | thats the key I think, to disabling easy-install | 19:44 |
| lifeless | for setuptools setup.py's | 19:44 |
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| lifeless | mordred: uses it yes, but not the implicit one within each setup.py | 19:44 |
| lifeless | mordred: it does use eggs though and PYTHONPATH shenanigans | 19:45 |
| mordred | lifeless: it is - although actually that requires you to provide a --root as well | 19:45 |
| lifeless | mordred: it would drive you bonkers debugging things with it in the openstack context | 19:45 |
| mordred | lifeless: and amusingly --root implies single-version-externally-managed | 19:45 |
| lifeless | mordred: sure | 19:45 |
| lifeless | nice | 19:45 |
| mordred | lifeless: so it's essnetially a very long useless parameter | 19:45 |
| mordred | :) | 19:45 |
| lifeless | ok, so --root is the key | 19:45 |
| mordred | yah | 19:45 |
| mordred | (I learned that specific nugget yesterday) | 19:45 |
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| lifeless | also pje is so out of touch with what folk -do- with stuff he wrote, its sad. (Re his mail about namespaces yesterday)- https://github.com/buildout/buildout/blob/master/src/zc/__init__.py | 19:47 |
| lifeless | he -might- be right in principle (I don't think I tried the exact combination he proposed) but noone does that combination because it either doesn't occur to them, or it has some other downside | 19:48 |
| mordred | lifeless: on distutils-sig? | 19:48 |
| lifeless | yah | 19:49 |
| mordred | I just read that - it makes my brain tired | 19:50 |
| lifeless | ok this is what buildout does | 19:50 |
| lifeless | https://github.com/buildout/buildout/blob/master/src/zc/buildout/easy_install.py#L321 | 19:50 |
| lifeless | installs into a unique tmp per packages | 19:50 |
| lifeless | package | 19:50 |
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| lifeless | then investigates the rubble | 19:51 |
| mordred | explicitly using easy_install | 19:51 |
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| mordred | I wonder if he'd accept a patch to shell out to pip instead of easy_install | 19:51 |
| lifeless | I haven't looked up what -mZUNxd means to east_install_command | 19:51 |
| lifeless | buildout depends on eggs | 19:51 |
| lifeless | so you'd need to teach pip eggs first | 19:51 |
| lifeless | (its been discussed a little on distutils-sig in the past, I don't recall a way forward) | 19:52 |
| mordred | lifeless: ok. we've hit that point where I want to rage-quit python again | 19:52 |
| lifeless | mordred: thats actually your reminder to have lunch | 19:52 |
| lifeless | mordred: I know it happens daily and all... | 19:52 |
| lifeless | *anyhow* | 19:52 |
| mordred | I cannot believe how tied we are to a set of broken systems - and we can't fix them because we might break something, even though we knowingly break 1000s of things every day | 19:52 |
| mordred | *sigh* | 19:53 |
| mordred | lifeless: :) | 19:53 |
| mordred | lifeless: I had a lovely lunch just a bit ago | 19:53 |
| lifeless | so | 19:53 |
| mordred | lifeless: we may be getting close to alcohol time | 19:53 |
| lifeless | I posit that a very small number of folk interacting with openstack software are trying setup.py install | 19:53 |
| lifeless | we see occasional bug reports from them | 19:53 |
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| mordred | lifeless: how about we do the warning thing - but we give people a way to indicate that they've understood the warning and never show it again? like touch ~/.I_know_easy_install_is_broken ... | 19:55 |
| lifeless | what have we learnt | 19:56 |
| lifeless | python setup.py install on its own is easy_install for setuptools projects | 19:56 |
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| lifeless | python setup.py install on its own is sane for distutils projects, and will be for pbr projects. | 19:56 |
| mordred | (except for no-dependency installation) | 19:56 |
| mordred | it will not _break_ anything - but it might not have the expected effect | 19:56 |
| lifeless | mordred: thats still sane if you're a build tool | 19:57 |
| lifeless | s/build/install/ | 19:57 |
| mordred | totally | 19:57 |
| mordred | I mean, I think it's better | 19:57 |
| mordred | I'm just saying there will be a class of users who will find the behavior non-intuitive | 19:57 |
| lifeless | users are probably mostly experienced with setuptools projects [**unverified gut feel**] | 19:57 |
| mordred | yup | 19:57 |
| lifeless | certainly there will be a set of users who've only encountered such | 19:58 |
| mordred | users who are not on distutils-sig are probably mostly experienced with setuptools projects ;) | 19:58 |
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| lifeless | it would be worth doing a map across pypi to check that | 19:58 |
| lifeless | I can do that later if its a key part of our decision | 19:59 |
| mordred | I feel like dstufft did one of those at one point | 19:59 |
| mordred | when we were tracking distribute/setuptools bong | 19:59 |
| lifeless | yup | 19:59 |
| lifeless | I have some code now | 20:00 |
| lifeless | only takes a few minutes | 20:00 |
| dstufft | mordred: I give no fucks about breaking things while fixing packaging, I try not to where we can, but if something doesn't work in the new world order, it doesn't work, sorry if you depended on it | 20:00 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: yeah, it was in the context of buildout *wanting* eggs | 20:02 |
| lifeless | dstufft: which AFAIK it still does | 20:02 |
| lifeless | mordred: so I propose this: | 20:02 |
| lifeless | mordred: we do nothing. If we get more than one WTF report a month, we add a warning. | 20:03 |
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| dstufft | I'm not familar enough with zc.buildout to figure out if what it does can be done without eggs or not | 20:04 |
| mordred | lifeless: works for me | 20:05 |
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| dstufft | pip isn't going to learn how to deal with eggs though, eggs are old and busted. If eggs do something we can't get with the new formats, we'll add whatever we need to the new things or something like that. | 20:05 |
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| mordred | dstufft: ++ | 20:08 |
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| dstufft | https://caremad.io/images/a-year-of-pypi-downloads/stacked-installer-pct.png (both buildout and easy_install get classified as setuptools, also so does pip when setup_requires are being downloaded) | 20:09 |
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| mordred | dstufft: so - fwiw, your key is upside down compared to the stacking order | 20:10 |
| mordred | dstufft: which is not strictly important, but it takes me a second every time I look at that to map things | 20:10 |
| dstufft | mordred: lol if you think I know how to control the order of that | 20:11 |
| dstufft | maybe I could figure it out | 20:11 |
| mordred | I love the blip 6 months ago of pep381client-proxy | 20:11 |
| dstufft | I have a terrible set of scripts that mix python and node.js to try and render those | 20:11 |
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| mordred | :) | 20:11 |
| dstufft | that's all from https://caremad.io/2015/04/a-year-of-pypi-downloads/ if you hadn't seen it | 20:12 |
| mordred | yah | 20:12 |
| lifeless | so yeah easy-install is vanishingly small? | 20:12 |
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| dstufft | it'll be interesting to see what the setuptools part looks like when we can get pip to take over setup_requires instead of letting setuptools handle it | 20:12 |
| dstufft | my gut is that it'll get a lot smaller | 20:13 |
| mordred | lifeless: nope. it could be as much as 9-10% | 20:13 |
| mordred | dstufft: ++ | 20:13 |
| lifeless | mordred: vanishingly small :) | 20:13 |
| mordred | :) | 20:13 |
| lifeless | ok | 20:13 |
| yolanda | hi, it's just me or i'm seeing https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-infrastructure-summit-topics totally empty? | 20:13 |
| dstufft | important to note, that if you don't support setup.py install via easy_install you don't support use as a setup_requires | 20:13 |
| lifeless | I'll remove my -2 so that if we need this its not blocked on me | 20:13 |
| dstufft | at least not right now | 20:13 |
| lifeless | but suggest you abandon it for now so its not in the review queue | 20:13 |
| lifeless | dstufft: oh hai since you're here. | 20:14 |
| lifeless | dstufft: can you land my fix for the git tree thing | 20:14 |
| dstufft | link? | 20:14 |
| lifeless | dstufft: its green and all | 20:14 |
| mordred | lifeless: abandoned | 20:15 |
| mordred | lifeless: can resurrect if we need | 20:15 |
| lifeless | dstufft: see #pypa-dev | 20:15 |
| dstufft | lifeless: done | 20:15 |
| * lifeless rechecks the pbr upstream job | 20:16 | |
| mordred | ok. I'm now building ANOTHER 1.8G image since I borked the last one | 20:16 |
| lifeless | dstufft: https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2723 can be closed then | 20:16 |
| mordred | which means it's time to walk to the store for some food and then walk back and see if it's uploaded yet | 20:16 |
| dstufft | lifeless: closed! | 20:17 |
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| fungi | you wanted yolanda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-liberty-summit-planning maybe? | 20:18 |
| yolanda | ah yes, i noticed. I wonder why i had that other link on history | 20:19 |
| yolanda | thx fungi | 20:19 |
| mordred | yolanda, SpamapS: so - I added a functional test that works when I run it against a live public cloud | 20:19 |
| mordred | and it fails on devstack | 20:20 |
| mordred | I find that ... well ... all sorts of fun | 20:20 |
| fungi | dstufft: did you see my earlier question about bandersnatch thinking sphinxcontrib_blockdiag-1.5.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl was deleted by serial 1521643? | 20:20 |
| fungi | that doesn't seem to agree with pypi, since it's still being hosted there | 20:20 |
| dstufft | fungi: um | 20:21 |
| yolanda | mordred, i would have expected for tests to run more easily on devstack and fail on public cloud | 20:21 |
| dstufft | I don't see a wheel at https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sphinxcontrib-blockdiag/json | 20:22 |
| fungi | funny | 20:22 |
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| fungi | so somehow it's still being served but has disappeared from the json | 20:22 |
| fungi | not even hidden in the webui | 20:23 |
| dstufft | fungi: I just purged the json thing and it's showing up now | 20:23 |
| dstufft | I saw some alerts this morning from PyPI | 20:24 |
| fungi | wacky | 20:24 |
| dstufft | probably glusterfs took a shit again | 20:24 |
| dstufft | pypi does this wacky thing where if it can't stat a file it assumes the file shouldn't exist and doesn't display it | 20:24 |
| dstufft | so most likely gluster was being a turd, pypi couldn't stat the whl, and it assumed it didn't exist and removed the entry from the json | 20:25 |
| yolanda | fungi, i added a topic to start a conversation regarding situation in Europe, and propose some solutions about that. I don't see that as a topic, should it be fine to put in on the sprints section, to just raise the topic informally with infra cores? | 20:25 |
| fungi | fwiw, one of my block personal devices in rax iad suddenly started spewing i/o errors overnight too | 20:25 |
| dstufft | fungi: makes sense, gluster is backed by x3 cloud block strage devices | 20:26 |
| fungi | yolanda: i agree, the best way to solve it is probably to get more infra project core reviewers in more timezones | 20:26 |
| fungi | dstufft: er, one of my personal block devices in rax iad, i meant. weekendbrain | 20:27 |
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| yolanda | fungi, and that's my next questions, how can we achieve that? myself and some other people from my team would love to collaborate. So we proposed to maybe split the core ownership of projects, so not be infra-cores in everything but on the projects we are specialized | 20:27 |
| fungi | yolanda: well, we need root admins in more timezones too, and to get there we need to help people achieve fairly intimate familiarity with most of the software we're writing and maintaining | 20:28 |
| dstufft | fungi: on my TODO list is moving PyPI off glusterfs and onto S3 | 20:28 |
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| yolanda | fungi, some of us are really familiar with that environment, as we are doing the same as you every day, so really count with us, it's a benefit for all | 20:31 |
| yolanda | so i wanted to use the opportunity to be in Vancouver all together and have this conversation | 20:31 |
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| fungi | yolanda: yep, i agree that's a good potential pool to draw from, and the "how do we figure out who else to get help from on these tasks" conversation is a good one for the summit | 20:32 |
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| yolanda | fungi, great. Shall i leave this topic on sprint, or do i move it to some other section? | 20:33 |
| fungi | yolanda: sprint seems as good a place as any for now, and we can reorganize these topics a bit before we finalize the schedule | 20:33 |
| yolanda | nice | 20:33 |
| fungi | thanks! | 20:34 |
| yolanda | willing to talk about it | 20:34 |
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| lifeless | where do periodic jobs report? | 20:36 |
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| fungi | lifeless: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/ | 20:38 |
| fungi | lifeless: and also via e-mail depending on the periodic pipeline used | 20:39 |
| fungi | e.g. http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/check-pbr-installation-dsvm-upstream/b6d6358/console.html | 20:39 |
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| fungi | bash: /opt/stack/new/devstack-gate/devstack-vm-gate.sh: No such file or directory | 20:40 |
| fungi | that looks unhelpful | 20:40 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: so - http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/check-pbr-installation-dsvm-upstream/ will report on upstream pip (and others in future) | 20:43 |
| lifeless | fungi: that does look unhelpful | 20:43 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: its currently pending me landing the glue to enable checking upstream, which is in the patch linked from the pipi issue | 20:44 |
| lifeless | dstufft: (because I couldn't land it while pip was broken :)) | 20:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create automated job for sample configuration files https://review.openstack.org/177620 | 20:44 |
| fungi | lifeless: one of the outstanding infra projects which hasn't gotten much traction yet is a reporting dashboard where we might make periodic job results/logs a little more discoverable | 20:45 |
| lifeless | ok, we're off to see tinkerbell | 20:46 |
| lifeless | (ANZAC day here) | 20:46 |
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| fungi | have fun! | 20:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create automated job for sample configuration files https://review.openstack.org/177620 | 20:50 |
| lifeless | fungi: mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177457/ <- hopefully that will go green this time | 20:50 |
| lifeless | fungi: that and the stack on it should be all +2 and perhaps even +A worthy with pip fixed | 20:51 |
| lifeless | [hint] | 20:51 |
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| mordred | in case anyone is wondering - I had lid-suspend _mostly_ working on trusty - but I upgraded to vivid and it's broken again | 21:22 |
| mordred | it's not totally broken | 21:22 |
| mordred | a lot of times when I close my lid and I'm on power, it does not suspend | 21:22 |
| mordred | but I've noticed that sometimes if I plug it in to power and close the lid shortly after, I guess it hasnt' figured it out yet, so it suspends | 21:22 |
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| mordred | I'm so happy about it | 21:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add inventory command to shade https://review.openstack.org/175891 | 21:25 |
| mordred | yolanda: ^^ I will now debug why | 21:25 |
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| mordred | yolanda: but yeah - it turns out the public clouds are better at being clouds than a cloud running in an 8G VM | 21:25 |
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| lifelessphone | Mordred: fungi: so plus A Please | 22:01 |
| lifelessphone | I want to lock in upstream compat before it changes :) | 22:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Stop testing setup.py installing deps https://review.openstack.org/177505 | 22:10 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 22:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: WiP: Add keystone services/endpoints methods https://review.openstack.org/177621 | 23:03 |
| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 23:07 |
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