| fungi | right now, all our libraries are not getting requirements sync proposals on master because $release_reasons | 00:00 |
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| greghaynes | hah | 00:00 |
| greghaynes | remove it from bandersnatch? | 00:00 |
| clarkb | but only horizon needs an update | 00:00 |
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| fungi | point for clarkb! | 00:00 |
| clarkb | so update it directly | 00:00 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: sigh, yeah it's pretty bad. The unit tests just stderr those stacktraces all the time | 00:00 |
| greghaynes | ah, that works too | 00:00 |
| mtreinish | and it's not fatal | 00:00 |
| mtreinish | until I switched cinder over to use subunit-trace no one had any idea | 00:01 |
| fungi | yeah, horizon itself is not exempted from requirements sync and checks, so we could probably deal with this through normal reqs channels | 00:01 |
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| fungi | i'll propose a !=2.0.0 to reqs master | 00:01 |
| david-lyle | != or < 2.0.0 ? | 00:02 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: why is osprofiler enabled when we are not osprofiling? | 00:02 |
| openstack | david-lyle: Error: "=" is not a valid command. | 00:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add inventory command to shade https://review.openstack.org/175891 | 00:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Raise a shade exception on broken volumes https://review.openstack.org/176550 | 00:02 |
| mordred | greghaynes, SpamapS ^^ there it is | 00:02 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: I have no idea, I just assumed it was always on whether you wanted it or not... | 00:03 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: thats a broken profiler then | 00:03 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: profilers shouldn't make their presence known when they aren't enabled | 00:03 |
| clarkb | python gives you an entire api to make this sane | 00:03 |
| mordred | clarkb, greghaynes, SpamapS: that stack produces this now: http://paste.openstack.org/show/205153/ | 00:04 |
| mordred | which is more human friendly I think - and then I've got a patch for ansible to consume that class and wrap it in group generation (ansible specific) and to add the ansible_ssh_host key to the dict | 00:05 |
| mordred | that way we can test the outbound interface of the data we're returning and be sure that things we do arent' going to break the ansible inventory plugin | 00:05 |
| mordred | without having to also keep ansible-specific logic in the shade tree | 00:05 |
| clarkb | david-lyle: fungi don't forget to file a bug with django-pyscss | 00:06 |
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| clarkb | I can do it if you like | 00:06 |
| * clarkb files it | 00:08 | |
| openstackgerrit | Stephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Make default email mandatory https://review.openstack.org/176394 | 00:08 |
| david-lyle | clarkb: looks like fungi did already | 00:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/requirements: Skip django-pyscss 2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/176553 | 00:09 |
| fungi | yep, linked in the commit message | 00:09 |
| clarkb | awesome | 00:09 |
| * fungi remembers doing this back before we had requirements caps! ;) | 00:10 | |
| david-lyle | fungi should it be != or < ? | 00:10 |
| fungi | david-lyle: up to you, but this doesn't look like an intentional thing i would expect to still be in 2.0.1 | 00:10 |
| david-lyle | or just tackle a failure in a subsequent release if it's not fixed | 00:11 |
| clarkb | david-lyle: well they claim to still support python2.7 sol hopefully next relase will be fine | 00:11 |
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| david-lyle | ok, works for me | 00:11 |
| david-lyle | just skip the one release | 00:11 |
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| fungi | this will need a backport to stable/kilo too, looks like. i'll add that | 00:12 |
| fungi | for whatever reason we capped some things but not this thing | 00:13 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/etc/cinder/api-paste.ini I appear to be mistaken and osprofiler is enabled | 00:13 |
| fungi | it's capped in juno and nonexistent in icehouse though, so just kilo | 00:13 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: at least I assume thats what the unittests will use? | 00:13 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: yeah I would guess so, although I don't really know why that would be on by default | 00:14 |
| mtreinish | seems like a pretty limited use case, it should probably be opt in | 00:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/requirements: Skip django-pyscss 2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/176555 | 00:14 |
| fungi | (^kilo) | 00:14 |
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| mordred | clarkb, fungi, jhesketh: diskimage-builder merged pretty much everything we need for dib-nodepool (one patch outstanding) | 00:15 |
| fungi | mordred: huzzah!(?) | 00:15 |
| greghaynes | yaya | 00:15 |
| mordred | so as soon as they release next, I think we can start testing images that use the -minimal base image | 00:15 |
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| greghaynes | oh, I can cut a release now | 00:16 |
| mordred | greghaynes: well, wait - there are two unlanded patches | 00:16 |
| mordred | greghaynes: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/diskimage-builder+branch:master+topic:dib-nodepool,n,z | 00:16 |
| greghaynes | aye | 00:16 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: but as soon as they land, I think we're in the happy place | 00:16 |
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| jhesketh | mordred: awesome! | 00:17 |
| mordred | and this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/glean also exists now | 00:18 |
| mordred | so we're all like crazy official and whatnot | 00:18 |
| * mordred is confused by the sudden pile of massive progress | 00:18 | |
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| fungi | come spread some progress over here while you're at it. i keep meaning to work on the same thing for the better part of a couple weeks now and keep getting distracted by emergencies ;) | 00:19 |
| mordred | fungi: stupid emergencies | 00:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/requirements: Add ldap3 to global-requirements https://review.openstack.org/176556 | 00:20 |
| fungi | mordred: oh! also we might have an outreachy intern, so quickly scribble random thankless tasks here with which to burden her: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-liberty-outreachy | 00:21 |
| mtreinish | fungi: would the fabled test result dashboard be something good for that list | 00:22 |
| mordred | fungi: does "get me coffee" count? | 00:22 |
| fungi | mordred: no, you get your own coffee around her | 00:22 |
| fungi | e | 00:22 |
| fungi | also get me some while you're out, would you? | 00:22 |
| mordred | mtreinish: I thnk that might be slightly too much | 00:22 |
| mtreinish | mordred: that's what I was thinking, but figured I'd ask anyway | 00:23 |
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| mordred | mtreinish: ++ | 00:23 |
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| fungi | i'm hoping we can get back to vkmc tomorrow with some semblance of a poorly-disorganized plan so she can tell us we're terrible people and hopefully how to make it more reasonable | 00:24 |
| fungi | deadline fast approaching and all | 00:25 |
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| mordred | fungi: deadlines shmedlines | 00:28 |
| fungi | mtreinish: i think the nefarious plan is to draw her in with easy-ish projects, then she gets a job with one of our member companies and comes back lulled into a false enough sense of security that she willingly volunteers to write the fabled test result dashboard | 00:30 |
| pleia2 | if someone else could put their name on as volunteer mentors that'd be great too, I don't want to be left holding the bag ;) | 00:31 |
| anteaya | I support you not holding the bag, I also am unable to put down my name, but I support you asking for help and hope that you get some | 00:32 |
| mordred | pleia2: but you're currently holding the bag so well! | 00:32 |
| anteaya | she has been holding the bag for some time | 00:32 |
| pleia2 | haha | 00:32 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/osprofiler/+bug/1447400 | 00:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1447400 in osprofiler "Cinder unittest failures have deep stracebacks due to osprofiler" [Undecided,New] | 00:33 |
| anteaya | she got stuck with an internal mentee which noone really knew about since January wasn't it? | 00:33 |
| anteaya | I support you not having to do the same thing | 00:33 |
| mordred | greghaynes: gah. gerrit's inability to merge multiple things at once struck on the dib patchseries | 00:33 |
| fungi | pleia2: i have some inside information that the hopeful candidate is in your timezone (and has fairly diverse programming background), but i am happy to help too | 00:33 |
| mordred | greghaynes: gonna need a rebase - you want me to? | 00:33 |
| pleia2 | fungi: thank you | 00:34 |
| greghaynes | mordred: sure | 00:34 |
| greghaynes | mordred: I have some issues with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166650/14 :( | 00:34 |
| fungi | pleia2: so i get the impression the burden will be relatively less this time around | 00:34 |
| greghaynes | mordred: that I dont have great ideas on how to fix | 00:34 |
| mordred | greghaynes: ossum | 00:35 |
| pleia2 | fungi: that certainly helps, and I'm sure all of us will be here to help day to day anyway, as we do :) | 00:35 |
| mordred | greghaynes: I've pushed up a new centos-minimal one | 00:35 |
| mordred | greghaynes: I'll look at your issues | 00:35 |
| fungi | pleia2: exactly | 00:35 |
| pleia2 | but as anteaya says, I'm just winding down from another mentoring program that kind of took the wind out of me | 00:35 |
| greghaynes | mordred: the linux-image-amd64 is the big one | 00:35 |
| greghaynes | mordred: I guess for now we could just install it in an actual install.d script with if arch == foo install-packages ... | 00:36 |
| greghaynes | (Does debian not have a linux-image-generic equiv?) | 00:36 |
| mordred | greghaynes: it does not | 00:36 |
| mordred | I just checked | 00:36 |
| mordred | greghaynes: yeah - I guess install.d script is probably the best bet- or I wonder if I can get debootstrap to do it | 00:37 |
| greghaynes | mordred: docs say you just need to specify the pacakage, so :( | 00:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Parameterize node to dsvm-full-plugin job template https://review.openstack.org/175625 | 00:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add glusterfs/centos7 experimental job https://review.openstack.org/175626 | 00:41 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: cool, thanks | 00:46 |
| mordred | greghaynes: bleh | 00:47 |
| Kennan | :clarkb | 00:47 |
| Kennan | for the comments, could you reply https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173290/ | 00:47 |
| Kennan | thanks | 00:48 |
| clarkb | Kennan: the reason we wouldn't necessarily want to jump that version is doing so requires everyone to upgrade to 2.6.0 even if they already have 2.5.2 | 00:49 |
| clarkb | Kennan: but 2.5.2 will fix the problem | 00:49 |
| Kennan | ok. :clarkb. I am ok with 2.5.2 | 00:49 |
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| Kennan | BTW, all version bumps now can be merged in kilo or master branch ? | 00:50 |
| Kennan | :clarkb do you know that ? | 00:50 |
| clarkb | bumps will have to be in master unless they fix a release bug | 00:50 |
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| fungi | greghaynes: mordred: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/linux-image-amd64 | 00:54 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: so, the dib functest job I think got merged a wee bit too soon | 00:54 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169167/ | 00:54 |
| fungi | is that what you were looking for? | 00:54 |
| greghaynes | fungi: we need a non arch specific one | 00:55 |
| fungi | oh! | 00:55 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: shoud've used a depends on | 00:55 |
| fungi | not just a non-version-specific one | 00:55 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: correct | 00:55 |
| greghaynes | fungi: yep | 00:55 |
| mordred | fungi: yah - it looks like there is no generic way to say "please install me a kernel kthxbai" | 00:55 |
| clarkb | oh and derp your job needs to copy log files | 00:55 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ^ | 00:55 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: that being said, looks like the job is broke | 00:55 |
| clarkb | I should've caught that in review | 00:55 |
| greghaynes | hrm | 00:55 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: let me find the log in jenkins | 00:56 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: in theory that patch should be able to merge though since itll pass | 00:56 |
| greghaynes | ok | 00:56 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-dib-dsvm-functests-devstack-trusty/1/console | 00:56 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: so ou want to update the job to copy log files (at least the console log) and ^ should help you debug why it failed | 00:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create a repository for stackforge/xstatic-angular-nvd3-directives https://review.openstack.org/176563 | 00:57 |
| greghaynes | ty | 00:57 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: note the paths, g-g-p is going to be in /home/jenkins/workspace/job_name | 00:57 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: not /opt | 00:57 |
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| clarkb | I should've caught these things in review but I fail | 00:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Add cron job to run weekly prune the data set of db https://review.openstack.org/176564 | 00:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create a repository for stackforge/xstatic-nvd3 https://review.openstack.org/176565 | 01:00 |
| mtreinish | pcrews: ^^^ you might be interested in that puppet change | 01:01 |
| mtreinish | I think that's what we talked about doing with the command once it's released | 01:01 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: its ok, as long as I unwedge dib before any of them notice ;) | 01:02 |
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| fungi | i think the requirements fixes for master and kilo aren't going to get resources in the check pipeline for a while because the constant gate resets are basically consuming all available workers at a higher priority | 01:04 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: so when you say workspace/job_name... if its in a job template... | 01:05 |
| clarkb | greghaynes its pwd | 01:05 |
| clarkb | so you can use relative path | 01:05 |
| greghaynes | well now | 01:05 |
| greghaynes | thats a lot easier | 01:05 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix DIB functest path and copy logs https://review.openstack.org/176566 | 01:07 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: ^ | 01:07 |
| clarkb | greghaynes almost pwd is the repo | 01:08 |
| clarkb | so I think you dont want diskimage-builder in the path | 01:08 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix DIB functest path and copy logs https://review.openstack.org/176566 | 01:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack/requirements: Add new angular nvd3 to global-requirements.txt for Horizon https://review.openstack.org/176567 | 01:09 |
| fungi | fyi, i've self-approved the requirements fixes for django-pycss, enqueued and promoted them to the head of the gate rather than waiting for the lengthy gate pipeline to burn to the ground so as to find out whether or not it would fix everything | 01:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack/requirements: Removing unused irdragdrop from requirements https://review.openstack.org/176568 | 01:11 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: ^ in theory thats better | 01:12 |
| greghaynes | and if someone else could review https://review.openstack.org/176566 to unbreak DIB I would be very grateful :) | 01:13 |
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| anteaya | asselin: are you about? | 01:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kai Qiang Wu(Kennan) proposed openstack/requirements: Bump requests version support https://review.openstack.org/173290 | 01:24 |
| Kennan | :clarkb I will send a new review, pls check. Thanks | 01:24 |
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| fungi | so far so good. tempest-full job for 176553 has gotten past devstack setup where broken django-pyscss was previously tanking horizon startup | 01:27 |
| anteaya | asselin: jyuso1 is working on the intel pci ci team and would like to help with your common ci solution | 01:27 |
| anteaya | asselin: he would like to help but doesn't know how, he is in china so china time zones | 01:29 |
| anteaya | asselin: he hasn't helped with anything in infra before | 01:29 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: have you offered patches in gerrit before? | 01:30 |
| anteaya | asselin: he is very reliable and wonderful at showing up and following up with questions when he needs more information to complete a task | 01:30 |
| jyuso1 | anteaya: not yet. | 01:30 |
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| anteaya | jyuso1: okay that is fine, I just didnt' want to assume you had skills you didn't have yet | 01:31 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: we can help you | 01:31 |
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| anteaya | jyuso1: so asselin is probably offline for the night, he is in pacific time in north america | 01:32 |
| anteaya | so hopefully there will be sometimes when you will be on irc at the same time | 01:32 |
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| anteaya | jyuso1: if you want to get started you can begin by looking at some of asselin's patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Ramy+Asselin%22+status:open,n,z | 01:36 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: don't worry if they dont' make sense to you, just look at them | 01:36 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: have you a gerrit account? can you sign into gerrit if you want to review a patch? | 01:36 |
| jyuso1 | anteaya: yes.gerrit account is ready:) | 01:38 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: wonderful | 01:38 |
| fungi | woo! debian release team status port just went out, linking to the all new http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/openstack | 01:38 |
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| fungi | hrm, wonder if that was premature. it's... empty :/ | 01:38 |
| ianw | 2015-04-23 01:28:32.350 | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django_pyscss/compiler.py", line 4, in <module> | 01:39 |
| ianw | 2015-04-23 01:28:32.350 | from pathlib import PurePath | 01:39 |
| ianw | 2015-04-23 01:28:32.350 | ImportError: No module named pathlib | 01:39 |
| anteaya | :( | 01:39 |
| ianw | ^ do we know about this one? | 01:39 |
| fungi | oh, nope. i must have had an old cache. it has qcow2, raw and tarballs | 01:39 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: go to https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-dev/sandbox+status:open,p,00344a1d00029c92 and review any patch | 01:39 |
| fungi | ianw: fixes for master and kilo are at the top of the gate now | 01:39 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: this is our sandbox so you can practice how to leave a comment and a +1 or -1 on a patch | 01:39 |
| fungi | ianw: django-pyscss released a broken package which doesn't properly declare its dependencies for python < 3.4 | 01:40 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: +1 means you agree with the patch as is and it should merge in your opinion | 01:40 |
| jyuso1 | anteaya: OK,np.I'll try to review,thanks:) | 01:40 |
| ianw | fungi: thanks ... launchpad search is terrible. if there was a bug, i don't know | 01:40 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: -1 means you disagree and you need to explain what you need to see in order for you to +1 the patch | 01:40 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: thank you | 01:40 |
| fungi | ianw: it's not a bug in openstack. i opened a bug against django-pyscss to let them know about it, and skipped the version in our requirements | 01:41 |
| fungi | ianw: hopefully in ~23 minutes it'll be moot for us | 01:42 |
| ianw | fungi: sure; figuring out django-pyscss is truly at fault is like 99% of the work. anyway, the ask-on-#infra bug tracker remains the most effective :) | 01:44 |
| fungi | ianw: sometimes it's the ask-on-#qa bug tracker. you might need two queries | 01:45 |
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| jyuso1 | anteaya: yes.I know that +1/-1 mean thanks for explaining:) | 01:46 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: wonderful! | 01:47 |
| anteaya | jyuso1: I'm soon going offline for the night, is there anything else I can help you with before I go? | 01:49 |
| jyuso1 | anteaya: I'll go to learn something from his patch.Thanks for helping:) | 01:51 |
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| anteaya | jyuso1: okay sounds good, have a good day | 01:51 |
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| anteaya | and you're welcome | 01:51 |
| anteaya | :) | 01:52 |
| jyuso1 | anteaya: have a good sleep.good night:) | 01:52 |
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| fungi | markmcclain: i'm mildly confused by "I have contributed code and reviews to many of our projects since Sent from my iPad" | 01:57 |
| fungi | though if you _do_ hack from your ipad, that's pretty awesome | 01:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Update to 3.6.2 https://review.openstack.org/176578 | 02:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Skip django-pyscss 2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/176553 | 02:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Skip django-pyscss 2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/176555 | 02:08 |
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| fungi | bingo bongo | 02:09 |
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| fungi | that's fixed, gate's looking happy, i'm going to find my bed | 02:09 |
| fungi | night all | 02:09 |
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| jogo | pleia2: any plans to 'get out the vote' for the TC election? | 02:15 |
| jogo | to beat our 26.7% turnout from last time? | 02:16 |
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| tchaypo | fungi: i have a half-decent editor, a decent ssh/terminal app, and a reasonable bluetooth keyaboard | 02:30 |
| tchaypo | hacking is something I could conceivably do from my ipad | 02:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Correct internal doc anchor for cinder vol mgmt https://review.openstack.org/175584 | 02:45 |
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| greghaynes | fungi: clarkb Interesting thing about the pyscss deal, our reqs https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/8c0ff9178c367c5749100fdf00e3a61815c81baa/global-requirements.txt#L48 and theirs https://github.com/fusionbox/django-pyscss/blob/master/setup.py#L14 are incompatible for pyScss... not sure why we dont explode with unresolveable dependency | 03:53 |
| greghaynes | The django-pyscss folk say this is the root of the issue, and they are kind of right, although IMO they really should be depending on pathlib too | 03:55 |
| greghaynes | so looks like theres two bugs here :) | 03:55 |
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| clarkb | yes they should they directly use the lib therefore you direcrly depend on it | 03:56 |
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| greghaynes | http://logs.openstack.org/66/176566/2/check/project-config-gerrit/dc5196c/console.html | 04:00 |
| greghaynes | thats an unrelated fail... | 04:00 |
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| waynr | wooooo, got zuul responding github webhooks! | 04:10 |
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| greghaynes | waynr: nice | 04:10 |
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| waynr | greghaynes: would be nowhere near this far without your initial patch :) | 04:12 |
| greghaynes | glad to hear thats getting some use | 04:13 |
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| waynr | one of my teammates has been playing around with a mesos dev environment, got me thinking about the possibility of implementing a mesos zuul/gearman worker framework | 04:17 |
| waynr | i still have to grok exactly how zuul dispatches jobs | 04:18 |
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| greghaynes | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/commit/?id=7cf64c337d87985b9696837d22e9cd6a9843f411 | 04:25 |
| greghaynes | that looks like a hiccup | 04:25 |
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| waynr | the dark green on the left? | 04:26 |
| greghaynes | its a merge commit | 04:26 |
| greghaynes | its re-adding the original commit | 04:27 |
| waynr | oh, gotcha | 04:27 |
| greghaynes | thats... scary | 04:28 |
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| waynr | it looks like jenkins was used to merge it? (based on email address) is it just an execute shell script stanza that does that or some other tool? or does gerrit perform merges via jgit? | 04:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix duplicate stable acl config in python-glanceclient https://review.openstack.org/176616 | 04:33 |
| greghaynes | gerrit merges using jgit | 04:33 |
| ianw | clarkb / others : ^ the above is breaking the system-config gate | 04:34 |
| clarkb | if someone pushes a revert/fix I can approve | 04:34 |
| clarkb | but on phone so constructing that is hard | 04:35 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: ianw just did :) | 04:35 |
| clarkb | oh I blame the phone | 04:35 |
| clarkb | wanyr just use the jenkins mesos plugin | 04:35 |
| ianw | greghaynes: oh, ok ... yeah i just got some changes that failed with it. why was this merged so later after it passed? | 04:37 |
| clarkb | or use nodepool (last I checked mesos is bad with highly dynamic resources but so is jenkins ... ) | 04:37 |
| waynr | oh the zuul mesos framework is just a hair brained idea i might toy with just to understand mesos a little better, our team definitely doesn't have the resources to pursue that idea seriously any time soon when there are already pretty wholesome solutions available | 04:41 |
| greghaynes | ianw: I dont understand entirely... im still wierded out that it showed up in the merge commit I linked | 04:41 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: it is wierd though | 04:41 |
| waynr | greghaynes: it looks even weirder to me when looking at it using git | 04:42 |
| clarkb | its two changes add same config | 04:43 |
| clarkb | jgit merges somehow without conflict | 04:43 |
| clarkb | bzr devs laugh at git | 04:43 |
| greghaynes | shhh, we dont want them to see this | 04:43 |
| clarkb | so either is a bug in jgit OR its expected git behavior and why bzr didnt do implicit merges | 04:44 |
| clarkb | either way its bedtime soon | 04:44 |
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| ianw | oh, i see ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173748/ is the one that was sitting around and just got merged | 04:45 |
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| waynr | bed sounds like a good idea | 04:46 |
| greghaynes | yea, it should have failed gate check though so I suspect some other wierdness though | 04:46 |
| clarkb | no | 04:47 |
| ianw | greghaynes: project-config-gerrit doesn't run in verify ... perhaps it should | 04:47 |
| clarkb | gate check does not use jgit | 04:47 |
| clarkb | so this is completely independent (potentially) | 04:47 |
| greghaynes | oh | 04:47 |
| greghaynes | yes, so either its git vs jgit or what ianw said | 04:47 |
| clarkb | oh that job doesnt run we should do that | 04:48 |
| greghaynes | heh | 04:48 |
| clarkb | it still may have gone weird but we wouldve caught it early | 04:49 |
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| ianw | clarkb / greghaynes : i can propose a change to do that | 04:50 |
| greghaynes | im about to push one | 04:50 |
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| ianw | ok | 04:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run project-config-gerrit job in gate check queue https://review.openstack.org/176618 | 04:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix duplicate stable acl config in python-glanceclient https://review.openstack.org/176616 | 04:51 |
| * greghaynes is zuul noob so feel free to fix that if im way off | 04:51 | |
| ianw | greghaynes: not changing the same is setting off my (irrational) inconsistency alarm :) | 04:53 |
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| clarkb | looks right to me | 04:55 |
| greghaynes | heh, sorry | 04:55 |
| clarkb | hrm? | 04:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Parameterize node to dsvm-full-plugin job template https://review.openstack.org/175625 | 04:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add glusterfs/centos7 experimental job https://review.openstack.org/175626 | 04:55 |
| ianw | clarkb: everything else is called gate-* | 04:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Split diskimage-builder built images out https://review.openstack.org/167837 | 05:05 |
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| * greghaynes could use a +A on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176566/ | 05:09 | |
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| clarkb | greghaynes I dont think the paths are correct | 05:15 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: oh? | 05:16 |
| clarkb | you still use /opt/stack/new | 05:17 |
| greghaynes | ah, the PATH | 05:18 |
| clarkb | which only exists if devstack runs | 05:18 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: do I need to check out dib-utils manually? | 05:18 |
| clarkb | I -1'd might be easier to make non voting then make job go | 05:18 |
| clarkb | you need somehing to yes | 05:18 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: I think its only in check actually | 05:18 |
| clarkb | maybe install diskimage-builder to get deps? | 05:18 |
| clarkb | greghaynes we require chwck to pass to gate | 05:18 |
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| greghaynes | ah | 05:19 |
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| clarkb | zuul-cloner is another alternative | 05:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run full tempest on centos7 https://review.openstack.org/176628 | 06:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Fixes for logstash manifests. https://review.openstack.org/162965 | 06:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Add a missing parameter into apache inclusion, that was causing vhost_name to don't be passed properly and generating the vhost incorrectly. https://review.openstack.org/176631 | 06:23 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/176632 | 06:23 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Fixes for logstash manifests. https://review.openstack.org/162965 | 06:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Change Magnum's bandit gate https://review.openstack.org/175176 | 06:32 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move manage_projects logic to puppet-jeepyb https://review.openstack.org/171565 | 06:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Seperate paragraphs in zuul_split spec https://review.openstack.org/171927 | 06:37 |
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| ttx | AJaeger: ping | 06:44 |
| ttx | Time to submit any last-minute translation refresh, about to cut RC2s (swift already done) | 06:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move manage_projects logic to puppet-jeepyb https://review.openstack.org/171565 | 06:49 |
| jklare | hi, can somebody here give me a hint on how to trigger jenkins jobs via zuul in a branch specific manner? | 06:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/176632 | 07:10 |
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| ttx | AJaeger: around? | 07:13 |
| ttx | I see two of you | 07:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move manage_projects logic to puppet-jeepyb https://review.openstack.org/171565 | 07:19 |
| AJaeger_ | ttx, just AJaeger_ - from home ;) | 07:19 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Add missing vhost_name https://review.openstack.org/176631 | 07:20 |
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| AJaeger_ | ttx, how can I help? | 07:21 |
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| ttx | AJaeger_: o/ | 07:32 |
| ttx | AJaeger_: I'll cut most RC2s today, so it's time to refresh the translations if you think that is necessary | 07:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zuul: Set zuul server and merger services with ensure running https://review.openstack.org/168306 | 07:40 |
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| AJaeger_ | thanks, ttx. I don't think we need to update. | 07:44 |
| ttx | AJaeger: cool, will merge the existing ones then. | 07:45 |
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| ttx | AJaeger_: thx! | 07:45 |
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| AJaeger_ | ttx, thanks! | 07:48 |
| AJaeger_ | you mean the remaining ones ;) Some were merged already | 07:49 |
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| jklare | AJaeger_: could you give me a hint on how to create branch specific jobs in infra, so that some of the gate jobs are only run for specifc branches of the project? | 07:52 |
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| AJaeger_ | jklare: you create a normal job and then add some instructions that it only runs on a branch. | 07:53 |
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| AJaeger_ | jklare: let me show you an example | 07:53 |
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| jklare | AJaeger_: awesome, ty | 07:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikolay Fedotov proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Put valid username in repository url string https://review.openstack.org/174816 | 07:55 |
| AJaeger_ | jklare: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n653 | 07:55 |
| AJaeger_ | See all the various "branch: ^(stable/).*$" | 07:55 |
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| AJaeger_ | jklare: feel free to send a patch and say clearly in the commit message what you want and I'll review whether it does the right thing ;) | 07:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed openstack/requirements: Add ironic-discoverd https://review.openstack.org/158210 | 07:57 |
| jklare | AJaeger_: thx, i will push something soon | 07:57 |
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| odyssey4me | ttx AJaeger_ I take it that the rc will be cut from stable/* ? | 08:09 |
| AJaeger_ | odyssey4me: yes | 08:09 |
| odyssey4me | great, thanks | 08:10 |
| ttx | yes | 08:10 |
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| devvesa | Hello. I would like to ask for help to inspect the devstack-gate logs | 08:31 |
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| devvesa | Recently I set a DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST_REGEX to filter the tempest test to run | 08:32 |
| devvesa | However, I am not able to see if those tempest test run or not... | 08:32 |
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| BobBall | docs.openstack.org is broken | 08:37 |
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| andrey-mp | Hi! Who can help me with my duplicated accounts in gerrit? | 09:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack-infra/project-config: move gate-.*-chef-rake job from experimental to check and gate and run it only for master branch, while running the old gate jobs (lint|style|unit|repo) on the older branches and not on master https://review.openstack.org/176674 | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack-infra/project-config: move gate-.*-chef-rake job and run it branch specific move it from experimental to check and gate and run it only for master branch, while running the old gate jobs (lint|style|unit|repo) on the older branches and not on master https://review.openstack.org/176674 | 09:25 |
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| pelix | Looking for some core reviewers for JJB https://review.openstack.org/176405, we want to land https://review.openstack.org/176389 which depends on this change, asap as it's a reorg of where the code is located in files to a better layout, but will obviously conflict with any other patches touching these areas. | 09:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for hipchat notifier 0.1.8 https://review.openstack.org/135843 | 09:33 |
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| jd__ | I got a 500 on docs.openstack.org guys | 09:39 |
| jd__ | #HALP | 09:39 |
| jd__ | isn't Nagios ringing someone? | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Sonatype CLM plugin https://review.openstack.org/164446 | 09:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for Xvfb plugin https://review.openstack.org/175758 | 09:52 |
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| Adri2000 | indeed docs.openstack.org is 500ing | 09:57 |
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| Adri2000 | and just now it works :) | 09:57 |
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| dguerri | hey guys, just an headsup: http://docs.openstack.org is broken! | 10:00 |
| dguerri | it still doesn't work here | 10:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack-infra/project-config: move gate-.*-chef-rake job and run it branch specific https://review.openstack.org/176674 | 10:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add gate-heat-specs-python27 job for heat-specs https://review.openstack.org/175846 | 10:08 |
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| AJaeger_ | jklare: ping | 10:09 |
| jklare | AJaeger_: pong | 10:09 |
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| AJaeger_ | patch is fine now - just not sure about the consequeneces ;) This changes 16 projects - are all ready for this? | 10:10 |
| AJaeger_ | I'll comment in gerrit and ask - and would like to see some +1 from other cores of the projects for this change (at least one other). | 10:10 |
| jklare | AJaeger_: i am not sure if we will ever be ready for this, but i guess we should at least give it a night | 10:11 |
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| jklare | AJaeger_: i could also put it to wip | 10:11 |
| AJaeger_ | jklare: if you have some consensus on it - and it's currently working everywhere, then go for it ;) | 10:11 |
| jklare | AJaeger_: thanks for the help | 10:11 |
| AJaeger_ | jklare: you're welcome | 10:12 |
| AJaeger_ | dguerri: thanks, will check | 10:12 |
| jklare | AJaeger_: we have a irc meeting later with most of the cores and will talk about this | 10:12 |
| AJaeger_ | dguerri: I'll revert our last change to docs.openstack.org quickly | 10:12 |
| dguerri | thanks AJaeger_ | 10:12 |
| AJaeger_ | jklare: then add a link to the minutes from the meeting to the review | 10:12 |
| AJaeger_ | And mark it as WIP for now | 10:13 |
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| AJaeger_ | dguerri: patch approved, will take some time to test and merge but should be fixed asap. Thanks for notifiying! | 10:19 |
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| andrey-mp | AJaeger_: Who can help me with my duplicated accounts in gerrit? | 10:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Reshetnyak proposed openstack/requirements: Bump python-saharaclient to 0.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/176690 | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: (hipchat) Accept list of hipchat rooms. https://review.openstack.org/153831 | 10:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Reshetnyak proposed openstack/requirements: Bump python-saharaclient to 0.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/176690 | 10:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: hipchat bug fix https://review.openstack.org/133997 | 10:51 |
| ekarlso | so, what's going on with docs.openstack.org ?! | 10:53 |
| ekarlso | no docs :( | 10:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: (hipchat) Accept list of hipchat rooms. https://review.openstack.org/153831 | 10:53 |
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| AJaeger_ | andrey-mp: one of the infra roots like pleia2, SergeyLukjanov, jeblair, fungi or clarkb | 10:54 |
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| AJaeger_ | ekarlso: I've pushed a patch to fix it - currently in the queue to get deployed... | 10:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: hipchat bug fix https://review.openstack.org/133997 | 10:55 |
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| andrey-mp | AJaeger_: thanks! | 10:57 |
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| ekarlso | AJaeger_: :P | 11:02 |
| AJaeger_ | ekarlso: thanks for telling us | 11:02 |
| ekarlso | AJaeger_: it's on tweeter too :p | 11:03 |
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| AJaeger_ | ekarlso: oh? Whom should I answer? | 11:04 |
| ekarlso | AJaeger_: dont remember the tweet atm but ;) | 11:04 |
| ekarlso | just saw someone mentioned #openstack with docs.openstack.org was going 500 | 11:04 |
| samueldmq | hi, I am getting 500 at http://docs.openstack.org/ | 11:06 |
| ekarlso | see ^ another one :p | 11:06 |
| samueldmq | yeah | 11:06 |
| davidlenwell | I was about to report that as well | 11:06 |
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| * AJaeger_ is so happy to hear that people use docs.openstack.org ;) | 11:07 | |
| AJaeger_ | Job is still in the post queue... | 11:07 |
| davidlenwell | for now I can pick up the docs I was looking for in the source rst .. but yeah .. the 500 error is disconcerding | 11:07 |
| pelix | any other core reviewers for JJB about? jeblair mordred? could do with some reviews on around changes both zaro and myself have submitted but since we're the main two reviewers active they are blocked unless we start self approving. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder+status:open+label:Code-Review%252B2+-label:Code-Review-1+-label:Verified-1+-label:Workflow-1,n,z | 11:07 |
| AJaeger_ | pelix: too early for them | 11:10 |
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| sambetts | If I am on the release team for a stackforge, does that allow me to push up branches if I want to create a stable/kilo branch?? | 11:18 |
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| AJaeger_ | sambetts: depends on the gerrit acls. What's your project? | 11:30 |
| AJaeger_ | Wait - you're not pushing branches, everything is done via gerrit | 11:31 |
| AJaeger_ | You might have permissions to *create* branches | 11:31 |
| AJaeger_ | sambetts: please check docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html in an hour - right now docs.openstack.org is broken, should be back soon | 11:32 |
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| sdague | AJaeger_: just a typo? | 11:35 |
| AJaeger_ | sdague: broken redirects using regexes. | 11:36 |
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| AJaeger_ | sdague: haven't figured out yet which one broken, need to review the patch again... | 11:36 |
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| AJaeger_ | sdague: are you good with redirects? | 11:36 |
| sdague | yeh | 11:36 |
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| sdague | so, there is a keyword issue as well, right? | 11:36 |
| AJaeger_ | https://review.openstack.org/176689 is the reversion | 11:36 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174835/3/www/static/.htaccess,cm | 11:36 |
| sdague | redirect match is not a thing | 11:37 |
| AJaeger_ | yes, typo - the extra space ;( | 11:37 |
| sdague | if it was a 500, that may have been the issue | 11:37 |
| AJaeger_ | it was a 500 | 11:37 |
| sdague | it would be at least *an* issue | 11:37 |
| AJaeger_ | ;) | 11:37 |
| sambetts | AJaeger_: stackforge/networking-cisco is the project I'm managing, I can push tags, I couldn't see the process for doing branchs in the Project Creators Guide | 11:37 |
| AJaeger_ | Let me repropose the patch with that changed | 11:37 |
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| AJaeger_ | docs.openstack.org is up again! | 11:38 |
| AJaeger_ | sambetts: read the page I referenced, it contains details on branches | 11:38 |
| sambetts | AJaeger_: Ok excellent thank you :) | 11:38 |
| sdague | AJaeger_: so... it might be nice to build a functional test for the docs site that actually puts it in apache on a devstack to make sure stuff like this doesn't happen again | 11:39 |
| AJaeger_ | sdague: this is the second time I know it happened in two years. | 11:40 |
| sdague | yeh, it's really bad to take out docs.openstack.org though | 11:40 |
| sdague | the cost of failure here is high | 11:40 |
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| AJaeger_ | So, yes worth testing and if somebody sets it up great and I'll help - but not my own top prio to do it on my own | 11:41 |
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| AJaeger_ | sdague: could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176701/ , please? | 11:43 |
| AJaeger_ | I changed "redirect match" to "redirect" - there was never a regex involved | 11:43 |
| sdague | yeh | 11:44 |
| sdague | so if the manuals team is going to be approving apache htaccess changes, I think you want to put a policy in place that they are all manually tested by core reviewers to avoid a docs outage again | 11:45 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger_, Welcome to OpenStack Documentation :) thx | 11:46 |
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| AJaeger_ | sdague: I'll test this one myself... | 11:46 |
| * AJaeger_ can reproduce locally the error 500 on the broken patch | 11:54 | |
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| samueldmq | AJaeger_, sdague is stackalytics also under ci umbrella ? | 11:56 |
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| sdague | samueldmq: not yet as far as I know | 11:56 |
| AJaeger_ | samueldmq: yes | 11:56 |
| samueldmq | sdague, k, do you know the right place to talk about it ? (it looks to be down) | 11:56 |
| samueldmq | sdague, cc ^ | 11:57 |
| AJaeger_ | samueldmq: the stackalytics repository is, the infrastructure not | 11:57 |
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| samueldmq | AJaeger_, ah k, infrastructure is managed by mirantis people, right? | 11:57 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger_, is there a channel to talk about it ? | 11:57 |
| samueldmq | I am getting 504 timeout | 11:58 |
| AJaeger_ | samueldmq: don't know ;( Yes, ask Mirantis guys | 11:58 |
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| samueldmq | AJaeger_, k will try, thanks | 11:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Nicholas Randon proposed openstack/requirements: HLM-514 Add packages required for config pocessor https://review.openstack.org/176704 | 11:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Jan Provaznik proposed openstack/requirements: Add python-tuskarclient to requirements https://review.openstack.org/174233 | 11:59 |
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| mordred | samueldmq: it's on our todo list to move it to being in the infra project | 12:07 |
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| samueldmq | mordred, great, thanks | 12:08 |
| samueldmq | btw, it's back | 12:08 |
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| fungi | AJaeger_: infra hasn't actually formally adopted stackalytics. it's still in the stackforge namespace and not listed as an infra repo in governance | 12:12 |
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| fungi | it's too bad andrey-mp left without providing enough information for me to be able to identify his/her gerrit accounts | 12:13 |
| fungi | oh well | 12:13 |
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| AJaeger_ | sambetts: stackforge/networking-cisco has no acls for branches | 12:15 |
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| AJaeger_ | fungi: yeah, agrred. My first answer was tooo brief | 12:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Log info about updated and deleted jobs https://review.openstack.org/162293 | 12:16 |
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| sambetts | AJaeger_: Does that mean I can or can not create them? Do I need to summit a patch to infra to update the settings for that repo? | 12:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Ironic machine power state pass-through https://review.openstack.org/172284 | 12:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade: WIP: Add Ironic maintenance state pass-through https://review.openstack.org/172283 | 12:17 |
| AJaeger_ | sambetts: I'm in a meeting now - let's ask fungi for help. you need to update in project-config gerrit/acls/stackforge/networking-cisco.config | 12:18 |
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| sambetts | AJaeger_: Ok, thanks for your help :) | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add update_machine method https://review.openstack.org/173996 | 12:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade: WIP: Add Ironic maintenance state pass-through https://review.openstack.org/172283 | 12:20 |
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| sambetts | fungi: AJaeger_ said you might be able to help be getting branch pushing setup for stackforge/networking-cisco | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Ironic machine power state pass-through https://review.openstack.org/172284 | 12:23 |
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| fungi | sambetts: yes, the file that he mentioned. you just need to add a "create = group networking-cisco-release" line in the [access "refs/heads/*"] section and submit that as a review | 12:27 |
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| fungi | put it alphabetically between the abandon and label lines | 12:27 |
| fungi | that will delegate branch creation to members of your networking-cisco-release group | 12:27 |
| sambetts | fungi: In the other document that AJaeger_ linked me too the, drivers manual, it says that you should see an Admin button on review.openstack.org, will that appear if I add that line? | 12:28 |
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| gordc | ttx: apologies of eglynn pinged already but is it ok to make a ceilometerclient release for kilo now or are we watching the gate still? | 12:32 |
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| ttx | gordc: waiting for dhellmann to get up to confirm | 12:34 |
| ttx | gordc: 8-ball says "All signs point to yes" | 12:34 |
| gordc | ttx: sounds good. :) | 12:35 |
| ttx | A couple of patches to merge first. Hopefully later this afternoon | 12:35 |
| ttx | Will ping you | 12:35 |
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| gordc | ttx: awesome! | 12:35 |
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| fungi | sambetts: er, i don't think it's called "admin" it's just "branches" | 12:40 |
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| sambetts | fungi: "Select ‘Admin’, ‘Projects’, then the project | 12:41 |
| sambetts | Select ‘Branches’ | 12:41 |
| sambetts | I thought it meant a different subcategory :/ so once I add that line it should enable the Project -> Branches page to let me create a branch? | 12:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/lodgeit: Update README https://review.openstack.org/172293 | 12:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable branch creation for networking-cisco repo https://review.openstack.org/176724 | 12:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Publish infra docs to docs.o.o https://review.openstack.org/174435 | 12:48 |
| mordred | anteaya, fungi: ^^ updated - thanks for the catch | 12:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/requirements: Cap django-pyscss <2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/176725 | 12:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/requirements: Cap django-pyscss <2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/176726 | 12:49 |
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| fungi | sambetts: interesting, i don't have any "admin" i just see "projects" at the top of the screen and if i click it then "list" is one of the available navigation links on the line below it. i put in the repo name in the filter search, click the name once it appears below there, and then "branches" is one of the available links on the second line along the top of the page | 12:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthieu Huin proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Allow reviewstats to be used with any issue tracker https://review.openstack.org/172886 | 12:57 |
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| AJaeger_ | fungi, I'm reading through your infra-manual patch. Should I edit and update directly? | 13:02 |
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| fungi | AJaeger_: feel free to take it over. i just wanted to provide a starting point | 13:03 |
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| * AJaeger_ doesn't want to take over - but has the file in the editor for reading. | 13:03 | |
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| * AJaeger_ will patch | 13:03 | |
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| fungi | "feel free to collaborate" i meant ;) | 13:03 |
| openstackgerrit | will soula proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Gatling plugin https://review.openstack.org/173999 | 13:04 |
| * AJaeger_ loves to collaborate ;) | 13:04 | |
| fungi | and then someone else can take a turn at it | 13:04 |
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| AJaeger_ | yep, let's pass the token around ;) | 13:04 |
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| fungi | i got my fill already | 13:07 |
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| AJaeger_ | you did the heavy lifting | 13:07 |
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| sdague | fungi / jeblair / dhellmann / ttx - so... this is a sketch of taking a step back on requirements - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-future | 13:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Project does not mean repository? Inconceivable! https://review.openstack.org/176469 | 13:10 |
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| AJaeger_ | fungi, you were very consistent, I really like it! | 13:11 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: fwiw, tempest is installed in a venv already, we kinda have to for branchless. Although it's probably not worth calling out in that etherpad | 13:12 |
| mtreinish | we just have it track g-r so we can install it in devstack for dev | 13:12 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: well, only by odd accident because of the tox thing | 13:30 |
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| mtreinish | it's intentional we just use tox to do the venv management. We could have used run_tempest (or some other script) too but I trust tox more than run_tempest | 13:32 |
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| sdague | right, but that means that you actually don't have 1 venv, you've got .... N | 13:35 |
| sdague | and they aren't managed at install time, but at run time | 13:35 |
| sdague | which requires that tempest is installed into a writable directory | 13:35 |
| sdague | so, it really doesn't install into a venv | 13:36 |
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| mtreinish | sure it does, it just does it in a weird way. (installing it in a hidden subdir where the code lives) | 13:39 |
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| sdague | no, it doesn't do it at install time | 13:51 |
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| anteaya | fungi: can https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174435/ merge anytime? | 14:09 |
| mordred | anteaya: yup! | 14:10 |
| anteaya | okay thank you | 14:10 |
| anteaya | mordred: thanks for fixing that up | 14:11 |
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| mordred | anteaya: thanks for noticing that I make bad codings | 14:14 |
| fungi | anteaya: basically yes, though documentation will cease updating on ci.openstack.org once it merges | 14:16 |
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| fungi | and i still need to reach some agreement with the docs team on a suitable theme for the infra index page | 14:16 |
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| fungi | in the meantime i'll just go ahead and try to sync it a little more to what the infra manual uses | 14:17 |
| anteaya | fungi: oh sorry | 14:17 |
| anteaya | fungi: should I -2 to prevent it from merging | 14:17 |
| fungi | nah | 14:17 |
| anteaya | mordred: thanks, well fungi noticed first | 14:17 |
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| fungi | nothing will disappear from ci.openstack.org, it just isn't going to get updated any longer until we take additional steps to change dns | 14:18 |
| anteaya | I'll keep my eye out for that patch | 14:18 |
| anteaya | okay | 14:18 |
| AJaeger_ | annegentle: still around? | 14:18 |
| fungi | (or rather, it will start getting updated somewhere else, but dns won't be sending people to the latest versions until we manually change it) | 14:18 |
| sambetts | AJaeger_, fungi: I've summitted the patch to add the ACLs for branches to networking-cisco, thanks for your help this morning | 14:18 |
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| AJaeger_ | fungi, what is this on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174435/ - "Merged" - but message "could not be merged due to path conflict" | 14:21 |
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| AJaeger_ | fungi, oh - it's not merged, just a +2. | 14:22 |
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| * AJaeger_ should have looked closer | 14:22 | |
| fungi | AJaeger_: yeah, zuul thought it should be able to merge but for some reason gerrit said no at the last moment | 14:22 |
| AJaeger_ | let me quickly rebase... | 14:23 |
| fungi | it's rare, but it does happen (mostly i think because the java-based git implementation gerrit uses is not bug-for-bug compatible with the c-based git implementation zuul uses) | 14:23 |
| AJaeger_ | interesting | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/requirements: Bump kombu version and add amqp version https://review.openstack.org/174930 | 14:24 |
| mordred | fungi: I prettymuch can't merge anything deeper than 3 patches with gerrt these days | 14:24 |
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| fungi | yeah, it's pretty unfortunate | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Publish infra docs to docs.o.o https://review.openstack.org/174435 | 14:24 |
| AJaeger_ | anteaya: want to review again, please? | 14:24 |
| fungi | zuul does its best to cripple git merge by disabling all the useful conflict resolution algorithms when it calls it, but it's still able to do a better job than jgit apparently | 14:25 |
| fungi | pretty sad | 14:25 |
| * mordred still thinks it'll be nice if/when we can just have zuul push its merge back to gerrit, rather than hitting the submit button | 14:26 | |
| fungi | yes | 14:26 |
| fungi | problems like this will cease to occur | 14:26 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: thanks for catching that | 14:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Remove OpenStack library caps for liberty https://review.openstack.org/173924 | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Cap django-pyscss <2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/176725 | 14:37 |
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| alfredodeza | looking at the gating docs at http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/gating.html it mentions that zuul is designed "to handle the workflow of the OpenStack project, but can be used with any project" | 14:40 |
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| odyssey4me | fungi will that django-pyscss cap be backported to kilo as well? | 14:41 |
| alfredodeza | but I was wondering if that means that other projects that don't follow gerrit could make use of it | 14:41 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: it already is? | 14:41 |
| odyssey4me | ah, I see it: https://review.openstack.org/176726 | 14:41 |
| alfredodeza | would a github-workflow that relies on pull-requests be easily consumed by Zuul? | 14:41 |
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| fungi | alfredodeza: right now it has triggers implemented for gerrit's ssh-based event stream, and for periodic tasks | 14:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Cap django-pyscss <2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/176726 | 14:42 |
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| mordred | alfredodeza: the trigger mechanism is pluggable, and there are usecases where we would like to be able to respond to github events | 14:42 |
| mordred | alfredodeza: but so far each time someone starts workign on that they get distracted | 14:43 |
| mordred | alfredodeza: it's a low priority for us - but there's nothing really preventing it | 14:43 |
| fungi | alfredodeza: the only event solution github seems to provide is a rest callback to a subscribed url. there's been some work so far to adding a writeable rest api for zuul, which would be the first step in taking advantage of something like that | 14:43 |
| fungi | alfredodeza: but as mordred points out it's nowhere near complete enough to use with github | 14:44 |
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| mordred | alfredodeza: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163117/ | 14:44 |
| mordred | alfredodeza: is the work in progress | 14:44 |
| pelix | jeblair mordred fungi if any of you might have a chance to review some of the JJB changes https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder+status:open+label:Code-Review%252B2+-label:Code-Review-1+-label:Verified-1+-label:Workflow-1,n,z | 14:45 |
| fungi | mordred: alfredodeza: also https://review.openstack.org/163637 is a spec for it | 14:46 |
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| mordred | pelix: oh yeah - I started doing that earlier .. | 14:46 |
| pelix | mordred: cheers! | 14:47 |
| pelix | wasn't sure if you'd seen the earlier message | 14:47 |
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| * alfredodeza looks at all the links | 14:48 | |
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| alfredodeza | fungi: mordred: much appreciated, thanks for the response and info | 14:49 |
| * alfredodeza will relay the information | 14:49 | |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix get_hostvars_from_server for volume API update https://review.openstack.org/176789 | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Only query jenkins plugins if config provided https://review.openstack.org/158826 | 14:52 |
| annegentle | fungi: I built the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174574/ locally and it's fine | 14:53 |
| annegentle | fungi: it's a good collection for your audience | 14:53 |
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| fungi | annegentle: okay, thanks! we'll probably adjust it for better consistency with other documents in that hierarchy, just wanted to get some index page up initially since there's nothing there right now | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support hacking module <= 0.10.1 https://review.openstack.org/160587 | 14:56 |
| anteaya | fungi: so I need a check job for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174574/1 then I'm good | 14:56 |
| mordred | pelix: in 163995 - how is that error in existence? if that's part of a test, shouldn't it have, you know, tested something? | 14:56 |
| fungi | anteaya: yep, on the way. i'm currently sidelined because someone e-mailed me a list of half a dozen security vulnerabilities i need to open bugs for, so it'll be a bit still | 14:57 |
| odyssey4me | is it a known issue that the gerrit new view doesn't do 'cherry-pick -x' (ie note the commit it picked from at the bottom of the resulting patch) | 14:57 |
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| anteaya | fungi: oh of course | 14:58 |
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| anteaya | just didnt' want the check job request to get lost | 14:58 |
| pelix | mordred: it never gets sent to the template expansion code since the test is only checking how the yaml itself is read in, not how JJB expands it | 14:58 |
| mordred | pelix: gotcha | 14:58 |
| pelix | so it's a yaml => json comparison | 14:58 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: which patch? | 15:00 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: oh, you mean in general | 15:00 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: if you select "cherry-pick" as your download mechanism, it doesn't add -x even in the old change screen | 15:00 |
| odyssey4me | fungi in general, although a colleague just suggested it may be dependent on whether the patch has merged or not yet | 15:00 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: at least not that i'm seeing | 15:01 |
| odyssey4me | fungi not cherry-pick for download - cherry-pick to add it to another branch | 15:01 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: oh, having not used the new change screen i have no idea. cherry-pick -x is a standard for openstack at the request of our stable reviewers. we didn't write gerrit so that may just be a designed in behavior, or it might be a configuration option that we didn't know existed and so didn't set | 15:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Igor Belikov proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add slack notification support, largely inspired by hipchat module https://review.openstack.org/136627 | 15:02 |
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| odyssey4me | fungi I'll keep an eye out on it and see if the behaviour changes for merged patches. | 15:03 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: for all i know, the cherry-pick button likely also generates a new change-id rather than reusing the one from the change being cherry-picked (also a workflow preference of our stable reviewers which simply may not be in line with the opinions of the designers of gerrit itself) | 15:04 |
| odyssey4me | fungi nope, it retains the change ID as far as I recall | 15:04 |
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| fungi | okay, cool | 15:04 |
| odyssey4me | it's been very useful for backports | 15:04 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: oh! actually i see a cherry pick to button in the old change screen as well, i've just never tried it since i don't spend much time in the webui | 15:05 |
| mriedem | clarkb: figured out what was kiling the disk in our test vm's | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | fungi, clarkb, jeblair, anteaya : we are ready to turn on requirements enforcement for libs on master again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176036/ | 15:06 |
| mriedem | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174929/ | 15:06 |
| fungi | dhellmann: was the removal of those from the requirements projects.txt file also reverted yet? | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Publish infra docs to docs.o.o https://review.openstack.org/174435 | 15:07 |
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| dhellmann | fungi: we have that as the next step, with the logic outlined in section 9.8 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/the-big-thaw -- I would appreciate your sanity check there, though | 15:07 |
| fungi | dhellmann: ahh, yep. i'll un-wip https://review.openstack.org/174447 so it's ready | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | fungi: I'm not *totally* sure the order matters, but we would need both patches landed to fix issues with updating requirements via sync | 15:08 |
| fungi | yep | 15:09 |
| fungi | landing 174447 reduces the amount of rechecking i think | 15:09 |
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| fungi | er, landing 174447 _second_ | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok | 15:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add inventory command to shade https://review.openstack.org/175891 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Have get_image_name return an image_name https://review.openstack.org/176549 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Raise a shade exception on broken volumes https://review.openstack.org/176550 | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | fungi: if you make that requirements revert depends-on the infra change, I will go ahead and approve it so it slides right in | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Remove REST links from inventory metadata https://review.openstack.org/175903 | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | fungi: unless we need to wait a while to update caches or nodes or something with the job change | 15:10 |
| fungi | dhellmann: happy to add a depends-on but we should give it a little time between them since it will take a few minutes to update zuul's layout | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | fungi: ok, there's no need to depends-on then | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Treat non-existant output files as empty files https://review.openstack.org/166062 | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | dhellmann fungi so you are okay if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176036/2 is approved now? | 15:14 |
| anteaya | if I am following correctly? | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: yes | 15:15 |
| fungi | yep | 15:15 |
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| * anteaya will approve then | 15:15 | |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: thanks! | 15:16 |
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| anteaya | done | 15:16 |
| anteaya | thanks for making it clear how to follow along and help | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Carey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Artifactory plugin https://review.openstack.org/173932 | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Log the job name info when running test mode https://review.openstack.org/163912 | 15:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: only force off KEYSTONE_USE_WSGI up until kilo https://review.openstack.org/175531 | 15:21 |
| mordred | pelix: k. I landed all of the ones where it was you and zaro | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: fix test in include-raw-escape001.yaml https://review.openstack.org/163995 | 15:23 |
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| pelix | mordred: cheers :-) | 15:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Temporarily ignore requirements on master libs" https://review.openstack.org/176036 | 15:26 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/176820 | 15:27 |
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| dhellmann | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176036/ has merged. I'm going to get lunch, and then approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174447/ | 15:41 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: thanks | 15:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Added session parameter to various db_api methods. https://review.openstack.org/176121 | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Consolidated subscription logic, switched to managed session. https://review.openstack.org/176122 | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add python34 unit test job to tempest experiemental https://review.openstack.org/176869 | 15:53 |
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| timrc | We are getting pretty awesome times for nodepool tasks on hpcloud now. | 15:56 |
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| nibalizer | \o/ | 15:57 |
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| fungi | timrc: oh? mordred: should we turn it back on again? | 15:57 |
| fungi | zuul's pretty backlogged on waiting jobs, so if hpcloud is really recovered then the added quota will help us burn through it much faster | 15:58 |
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| clarkb | and if it isnt we should notice quickly and can turn it back off | 15:59 |
| timrc | fungi, Let me upload a graph really quick (my grafana is running locally) | 16:00 |
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| cinerama | pleia2: hi | 16:00 |
| clarkb | though I put little trust in numbers without us hammering the cloud >_> | 16:00 |
| timrc | http://i.imgur.com/EZuHhd1.png | 16:01 |
| fungi | yes, from what we've seen, hpcloud struggles when we try to boot 600 instances at once. if you're not testing that, then the improvements may not reflect what we should actually expect | 16:01 |
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| mordred | clarkb, fungi: the database maint is now fully completed - so it's certainly worth trying | 16:02 |
| fungi | who wants to prepare the revert of the revert of the revert of the... i forget how many levels deep it's gone now | 16:03 |
| timrc | fungi, Yeah our max capacity is around 100 systems. We're not under that heavy of a load atm. | 16:03 |
| mtreinish | sdague: on https://review.openstack.org/170268 there's just one release so far. Just set that as the min? | 16:03 |
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| fungi | i can unless someone else is already writing it | 16:03 |
| clarkb | fungi go for it | 16:03 |
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| tmcpeak | sdague: you around? | 16:04 |
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| mordred | fungi: we could just do the change in prod for a second to test whether we think it's good to go for real too | 16:05 |
| timrc | mordred, It could also be working well now because you've turned it off :P | 16:06 |
| mordred | timrc: indeed | 16:06 |
| sdague | mtreinish: yes please | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Revert "Revert "Revert "Turn off HP in nodepool""" https://review.openstack.org/176881 | 16:07 |
| fungi | mordred: we could | 16:07 |
| clarkb | mordred: have we asked about using west yet? we could cut our east use in half | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/requirements: Add os-testr to global requirements list https://review.openstack.org/170268 | 16:08 |
| mtreinish | sdague: ^^^ | 16:08 |
| mordred | clarkb: I have, in fact, asked about that | 16:08 |
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| clarkb | any cahce we can make a quota bump request and shift some of our load there? | 16:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Add script to update .gitreview files https://review.openstack.org/174594 | 16:09 |
| greghaynes | Can I get a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176566/ for our broken DIB job :) | 16:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add an index.html for docs.o.o/infra https://review.openstack.org/174574 | 16:11 |
| pleia2 | jogo: re: get out of the vote for TC, I had no plans aside from the standard email we're sending out tomorrow, might ask tristanC | 16:11 |
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| fungi | anteaya: ^ that should address your comment | 16:11 |
| pleia2 | cinerama: morning, backlog tells me you might have figured out the client issue? :) | 16:12 |
| cinerama | pleia2: yes! so i got the client working and pulling down the translations. but of course it works differently from transifex... | 16:12 |
| * fungi can just imagine jogo going door-to-door with tc pollster pamphlets | 16:13 | |
| cinerama | pleia2: so in order to put the files in the right place, we need to have a zanata.xml file for each project with the mapping | 16:13 |
| pleia2 | cinerama: indeed, that's why we'll need to rewrite the scripts, and work with the zanata folks if there is anything we can't do yet and can't work around | 16:13 |
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| cinerama | pleia2: so i'm not sure where we want to put them - they could go into each project, or we could have a repo of them where we maintain the mappings etc | 16:14 |
| pleia2 | cinerama: oof, that seems like a chore | 16:14 |
| mordred | greghaynes, clarkb: we want to clone directly from git.o.o and not from the local git cache? | 16:14 |
| clarkb | cinerama: what mappings are we talking about? with transifex we basically told all projects this is the template and the script did one mapping | 16:14 |
| clarkb | mordred: I left a comment that a followup should likely use zuul-cloner | 16:14 |
| clarkb | mordred: but happy to get job working for now | 16:14 |
| mordred | cool | 16:14 |
| cinerama | pleia2: the good news there is that i *think* we can cut down on a lot of the prep commands we do now with transifex so there are fewer moving parts - all the science is in the xml and the pull command itself | 16:14 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: +3 | 16:15 |
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| cinerama | clarkb: e.g. translations for nova/locale/nova.pot go to nova/locale/<lang>/LC_MESSAGES/nova.po | 16:16 |
| pleia2 | cinerama: so I assume you're talking about the script that pulls down the 75%+ translated projects and proposes the changes in gerrit? | 16:16 |
| clarkb | cinerama: ya we basically said everyone does it one way | 16:16 |
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| clarkb | cinerama: and the script supported one mapping | 16:16 |
| greghaynes | mordred: ty | 16:16 |
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| cinerama | pleia2: oh that's the OTHER thing - i didn't see where we could mess with the percentages | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add script to generate release note email bodies https://review.openstack.org/176038 | 16:17 |
| cinerama | clarkb: i'm less familiar with the code than you are but it looks like there are a few other file name & path mappings we set up for horizon, manuals etc | 16:17 |
| clarkb | cinerama: yes and IMO those are bugs | 16:17 |
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| pleia2 | so maybe we can work with the translations folks to sync up their translations locations? | 16:18 |
| clarkb | cinerama: they were special because they have different translation domains, but we should be able to say anything under locale/ is a domain and template the rest for example | 16:18 |
| cinerama | clarkb: but we need a zanata.xml somewhere to specify stuff even if we just have the one mapping as i don't think those opts can be supplied on command line | 16:18 |
| clarkb | cinerama: the script can generate that | 16:18 |
| cinerama | clarkb: this is why i asked how we wanted to handle this :) so we'd basically chuck out a zanata.xml on the fly, use it, clean up, & commit the new translations? | 16:19 |
| clarkb | * sorry anything locale/*.pot is a domain | 16:19 |
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| clarkb | cinerama: basically, I think that makes the transition much simpler. Then if any project wants a zanata.xml in tree they can add it at their own pace | 16:20 |
| clarkb | cinerama: if we require that zanata.xml file in every project before hand this will never happen | 16:20 |
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| cinerama | clarkb: yep that is a good point | 16:20 |
| zaro | morning | 16:21 |
| clarkb | morning | 16:22 |
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| cinerama | clarkb pleia2 so the other thing i was thinking about doing is making it so we can use transifex in parallel with zanata as we get across. you can tell me if you think that's a bad idea | 16:22 |
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| pleia2 | cinerama: yeah, on the spec we have using them both in parallel for a bit while we do zanata testing | 16:23 |
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| clarkb | cinerama: if that simplifies things I would be fine with it. Keep in mind that early in the cycle (nowish) is actually a really quiet time for translations so taking a day "downtime" to switch is likely not a problem | 16:23 |
| cinerama | pleia2: so i guess the thing is we don't want "duelling banjos" where both would be trying to commit stuff :) | 16:23 |
| pleia2 | cinerama: yeah, it would be parallel just for the interactions with translating strings, not submitting to gerrit | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/requirements: Bump ddt to min version 0.7.0 https://review.openstack.org/166162 | 16:24 |
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| cinerama | pleia2: so i heard back on our bug about project creation - i am not sure when that will be in the pipeline though it's something they'd like to do | 16:25 |
| pleia2 | cinerama: can you add the bug links to the etherpad? | 16:25 |
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| cinerama | pleia2: good idea | 16:26 |
| pleia2 | thanks :) | 16:26 |
| pleia2 | they've been good about pushing through feature requests when it's for us, I know daisy got a few in on the translator/UI side earlier this year | 16:26 |
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| krtaylor | pleia2, thanks for third-party-ci-tools repo merge, do you have acls to add to the -core group ? | 16:28 |
| krtaylor | pleia2, https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/688,members | 16:28 |
| pleia2 | krtaylor: I'm sure I do, do you need to be added? | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/requirements: Add python-manilaclient to global requirements. https://review.openstack.org/135007 | 16:29 |
| krtaylor | pleia2, yes, please :) | 16:29 |
| pleia2 | hmm, gerrit seems to think there are two of you in the dropdown when I go to add | 16:29 |
| pleia2 | same name, same email address | 16:30 |
| fungi | we should probably clean that up | 16:30 |
| krtaylor | oh, thats not good | 16:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix DIB functest path and copy logs https://review.openstack.org/176566 | 16:30 |
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| cinerama | pleia2: oh there is also what i think is a bug in that i ended up getting the client stuff working better by specifying the path to zanata.ini even though it would say it was reading it | 16:31 |
| cinerama | pleia2: will confirm & file | 16:31 |
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| krtaylor | pleia2, fungi, it looks like the ID one I am using is 5660 | 16:31 |
| pleia2 | fungi: so how do I know which to use? (and I can't see through the web ui how to fix) | 16:31 |
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| fungi | pleia2: krtaylor: i agree, account id 5660 created 2012-09-21 has submitted contact info. account id 10666 created 2014-03-05 has not. both are active | 16:32 |
| cinerama | pleia2: one of the other things we need to do soon is ask them how we can make it look pretty | 16:32 |
| pleia2 | cinerama: custom theming? | 16:32 |
| cinerama | pleia2: in other words yes | 16:32 |
| fungi | krtaylor: it looks like it might have happened which switching between an ibm and a gmail e-mail address for authentication to launchpad | 16:32 |
| fungi | i'll clean this up and mark the 10666 id inactive | 16:33 |
| krtaylor | fungi, hm, I did merge launchpad accounts too about that time | 16:33 |
| pleia2 | thanks fungi | 16:33 |
| pleia2 | once that's done, I'll add krtaylor to third-party-ci-tools | 16:33 |
| krtaylor | fungi, thanks! | 16:33 |
| pleia2 | cinerama: I just had a quick tour of public zanatas, jboss, fedora... I thought for sure one would be customized theme-wise, but no! | 16:33 |
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| pleia2 | cinerama: so might be something else to ask them about, I haven't seen public documentation about it anywhere, and mucking about with CSS on our own... while possible, may not be optimal maintenance-wise | 16:34 |
| cinerama | pleia2: it was not super obvious to me that they had a provided mechanism for doing it. we could just mess with the supplied style sheets & graphics i guess | 16:34 |
| cinerama | pleia2: might be good to ask on the mailing list | 16:34 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I can go ahead and do that if you'd like | 16:35 |
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| pleia2 | I can do a little digging through archives and bugs first to see if anything is in the works | 16:36 |
| fungi | pleia2: krtaylor: the duplicate account has been cleaned up and is properly marked inactive now | 16:36 |
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| greghaynes | Is there some kind of lag behind when a change to jjb templates merge and when they take effect? | 16:36 |
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| pleia2 | krtaylor: and added the correct you to third-party-ci-tools-core :) | 16:36 |
| krtaylor | pleia2, fungi, thanks! | 16:37 |
| fungi | greghaynes: a couple pretty big lags in fact | 16:37 |
| greghaynes | hah, ok | 16:37 |
| greghaynes | ill be less trigger happy on the rechecking button | 16:37 |
| SpamapS | mordred: I just had a thought about shade's public API | 16:38 |
| greghaynes | does it require a puppet run or is there some other mechanism? | 16:38 |
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| SpamapS | mordred: we expose the client libraries in the public API | 16:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run Gnocchi devstack tests for stable/1.0 against Kilo https://review.openstack.org/176907 | 16:38 |
| SpamapS | mordred: so we should probably change that now, and make them private, since they won't be there when we do direct REST calls. | 16:39 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: the nodepool changes currently depend on that | 16:39 |
| jd__ | could I have a first review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176907/ guys as I don't really know what I'm doing? :) | 16:39 |
| fungi | greghaynes: due to the frequency with which we try to apply puppet updates (on the quarter-hour via cron) and the duration it takes them to complete (>30 minutes typically) it's between 45 minutes to an hour from when a change merges to when it gets applied via puppet. then there's the problem that our jjb config is so enormous that it takes 10+ minutes for it to update on our jenkins masters | 16:39 |
| fungi | (possibly much longer if they're bogged down for some reason, e.g. thread leak) | 16:39 |
| greghaynes | fungi: Ah, makes sense. Ty for the infos | 16:39 |
| clarkb | so I was thinking about that | 16:39 |
| clarkb | I want to try doubling the ansible concurrency | 16:40 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: that seems like folly | 16:40 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: we could make them not do that, the followup changes arent that big | 16:40 |
| clarkb | and see if we can trim down puppet run times | 16:40 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ any thoughts on doing that? | 16:40 |
| * SpamapS will go -1 them :) | 16:40 | |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: I think the original plan was it would prevent us from having change bombs (I didnt write them), but looks if we just went right into using shade for images, then nova it wouldnt be *that* huge | 16:41 |
| fungi | clarkb: i think the main issue there is that we want to lock around project config updates taking effect on gerrit and the git servers, since having that go out-of-order due to happening twice in parallel could make with the bad | 16:41 |
| clarkb | I think our puppet master should be able to do >10 nodes at once | 16:41 |
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| clarkb | fungi: this shouldn't affect that | 16:42 |
| clarkb | fungi: ansible runs each step in a playbook serially, but it is currently limitted to doing 10 tasks within a step at a time | 16:42 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, got it, so turning up concurrency within ansible, not firing more than one run_all.sh in parallel | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | fungi, clarkb : can one of you give me edit permissions on https://pypi.python.org/pypi/lockfile/ so I can fix the references to the git repository to point to ours? pypi user doughellmann | 16:42 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: I think we can avoid change bombs by writing an adapter for nodepool configuration to feed into shade configuration. | 16:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: yup | 16:43 |
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| clarkb | dhellmann: looking | 16:43 |
| fungi | dhellmann: done | 16:43 |
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| clarkb | fungi wins | 16:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: do you have the creds for that account memorized? | 16:43 |
| clarkb | that was fast | 16:43 |
| fungi | clarkb: i have a lookup macro | 16:43 |
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| clarkb | nice | 16:44 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Yea, I dont think it ended up being that much code, honestly | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | fungi, clarkb : thanks! | 16:45 |
| greghaynes | I do need to write tests though | 16:45 |
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| clarkb | oh the default is -f 5 so even fewer concurrent things | 16:45 |
| clarkb | patch incoming | 16:46 |
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| dansmith | zuul seems backed up? | 16:48 |
| dansmith | needs fiber? | 16:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Run more puppet agents at a time with ansible https://review.openstack.org/176912 | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | fungi: mordred ^ thoughts | 16:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Bump python-saharaclient to 0.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/176690 | 16:50 |
| clarkb | dansmith: needs more cloud | 16:50 |
| clarkb | fungi: mordred also maybe we should just hand apply the reenable of hpcloud and see how it does? | 16:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Bump pymemcache to >= 1.2.9 https://review.openstack.org/174472 | 16:51 |
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| greghaynes | oh wow, our nodepool tests dont hit any of the neutron code AFAICT | 16:51 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: wouldn't surprise me since we aren't actually booting a node | 16:51 |
| fungi | dansmith: or a nova 20-patch-series laxative | 16:51 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: so our fakes cut it off before that? | 16:51 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: I think so | 16:51 |
| dansmith | fungi: heh | 16:51 |
| clarkb | fungi: mordred I can apply it to nodepool and disable puppet there | 16:52 |
| fungi | clarkb: wfm | 16:52 |
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| fungi | let's just not forget to reenable puppet there shortly (and either merge the revert first if it's working well, or don't if it's not) | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Nolan Brubaker proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove dsvm from ansible commit job https://review.openstack.org/176914 | 16:53 |
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| sdague | dansmith: we're back to being one cloud | 16:54 |
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| dansmith | sdague: really? | 16:54 |
| greghaynes | apparently rax alone is higher throughput than (rax + hp) in hpcloud's previous state... | 16:55 |
| sdague | so, fwiw, neutron master is blocked on grenade and we're trying various things to address it (which tripped over other bugs) | 16:55 |
| clarkb | pleia2: see comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176482/ | 16:55 |
| clarkb | ya I am about to try hpclodu again as their cleanup has completed | 16:56 |
| clarkb | and timrc reports good results | 16:56 |
| timrc | wee | 16:56 |
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| AJaeger | cinerama: I'm just reading the backscroll | 16:57 |
| timrc | Here is an up-to-date graph: http://i.imgur.com/7AHTWFa.png | 16:57 |
| clarkb | also setting max servers to 50 to start | 16:57 |
| mordred | cool | 16:58 |
| AJaeger | cinerama, pleia2: One issue I have with the xml file is new languages. Right now we download some files only - and if new files get added on the server, we download them automatically. | 16:58 |
| cinerama | hi AJaeger, would love to have your expertise | 16:58 |
| mordred | timrc: those are good numbers | 16:58 |
| clarkb | nodes are launching | 16:58 |
| AJaeger | cinerama: pleia2 and myself discussed with carlos from zanata that there would be a way to not specify each and every language in the xml. | 16:58 |
| AJaeger | otherwise we would need to change the xml file everytime a new language becomes available | 16:59 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: cinerama so maybe it is beneficial to generate it on the fly to start for other reasons | 16:59 |
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| pleia2 | I need to jump on a call, hopefully won't be too long | 16:59 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: cinerama we could inspect what languages there are then generate xml appropriately | 16:59 |
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| cinerama | AJaeger: to get the pull to go i think i either have to specify the locale on the command line or a list of them in the xml | 16:59 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: yes, that could work | 16:59 |
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| timrc | mordred, average sum series of means (just to be clear) | 17:00 |
| AJaeger | or we pull down all languages and have in project-config a single language file that we use - that way we only need to update one place for new languages | 17:00 |
| AJaeger | cinerama, clarkb: Regarding the locations for the po files: Sphinx has one way to specify it. | 17:01 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: that makes it simple then | 17:01 |
| AJaeger | horizon and most of openstack-documentation does not use sphinx, so we placed the files somewhere else | 17:01 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: but we could use the same locations elsewhere | 17:01 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I think it is a bug that we do not | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | But I also mostly defer to AJaeger and other translators on tehse things | 17:02 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: there's one more challenge: We have several po files - one for each book - in openstack-manuals | 17:02 |
| AJaeger | horizon also has three (?) different po files | 17:02 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: couldn't we do something like bookname.pot and similar for horizon | 17:02 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: we have to adjust our tooling to use different pathes | 17:02 |
| clarkb | but then each of the .po files could be named after the .pot. I think it would work | 17:03 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: Yes, that should work for manuals: a central locale directory and we use bookname.po and LC_MESSAGES/<LANG>/bookname.po | 17:03 |
| clarkb | but yes would require changes in the non sphinx projects | 17:03 |
| AJaeger | right now it's book/bookname.po and book/ja.pot | 17:03 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: it just means different ways of tooling - should be doable. | 17:04 |
| AJaeger | If we want to go this way, let's write down a spec to implement against. | 17:04 |
| AJaeger | I can then look at the manuals side, somebody else at horizon... | 17:04 |
| cinerama | fwiw we should be able to replicate what we have for the non-sphinx stuff | 17:05 |
| sdague | hmmm... so https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/check-tempest-dsvm-full/buildTimeTrend now is ajaxing in the actual build results instead of doing it inline, any idea how I could get those with a simple scraper? | 17:05 |
| cinerama | at least in the interim | 17:05 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: probably depends on how complicated not doing it makes zanata and if we decide we need ti your plan sounds good to me | 17:05 |
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| clarkb | sdague: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13799652/jenkins-get-build-time-trend-values-using-remote-access-api maybe something like that? | 17:06 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb, cinerama: I'm fine with changing the tools and can definitely help for some parts | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Remove superfluous calls to matches() https://review.openstack.org/176405 | 17:07 |
| AJaeger | speaking about tools - pleia2, clarkb: Could you review and approve https://review.openstack.org/176313 , please? | 17:07 |
| clarkb | cinerama: ya, I thinks its a judgement call of which will go quicker, changing things to use one zanata setup or adapting zanata to all the existing setups | 17:07 |
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| cinerama | AJaeger: that would be great if you could. i'm thinking i will put something up as kind of a trial balloon and then we can argue about it :) | 17:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Remove YamlParser from jenkins_jobs.builder https://review.openstack.org/176389 | 17:08 |
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| AJaeger | go for it, cinerama ! | 17:08 |
| sdague | clarkb: looks like maybe, I'll poke | 17:08 |
| clarkb | hpcloud looks happy so far, lots of nodes going ready then transitioning to used | 17:09 |
| clarkb | I will bump to full quota in a bit if this keeps up | 17:10 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: replied on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168603/, networking seems to be a minor issue | 17:16 |
| greghaynes | ill experiment | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack/requirements: Removing unused irdragdrop from requirements https://review.openstack.org/176568 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create a repository for stackforge/xstatic-angular-nvd3-directives https://review.openstack.org/176563 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Allow blank lines in node{} with apply test https://review.openstack.org/176482 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create a repository for stackforge/xstatic-nvd3 https://review.openstack.org/176565 | 17:19 |
| clarkb | pleia2: ^ thanks for the review | 17:19 |
| greghaynes | the only thing better than one csplit is two csplits | 17:19 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: SpamapS replied. "because this is simple" | 17:20 |
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| sdague | clarkb: I can't figure out how to get the slave name | 17:21 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: SpamapS we aren't going to move the world in one day and the important thing is rax image uploads | 17:21 |
| anteaya | fungi: can https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174574/2 be merged? | 17:22 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: SpamapS I think the big concern is that shade would then have to maintain the clients as part of the public api | 17:22 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: they are already part of the public API | 17:22 |
| clarkb | ship has sailed | 17:22 |
| greghaynes | The impression I got is that shade doesnt consider itself 'stable' yet | 17:23 |
| mordred | wait. no | 17:23 |
| mordred | so 2 things | 17:23 |
| mordred | a) clarkb is right - this needs to be a minimal change, and we need to focus on image uploads | 17:24 |
| mordred | b) the passthrough clients will not be in the 1.0 release | 17:24 |
| mordred | they are there for consumption as a migration path | 17:24 |
| mordred | we have an 0.x version, which means I literally do not care about breaking anyone EXCEPT - when an ansible module lands upstream that's using an API in shade, the API needs to be considered stable - and anything nodepool is using has to be supported | 17:26 |
| mordred | but - we own shade and nodepool - so we don't have to pretend that we don't | 17:26 |
| clarkb | sdague: I think I may have figured it out, confirming now | 17:26 |
| mordred | which means I'm fine with nodepool using nova_client as part of a sane transition - and then we'll know when nodepool no-longer does such a thing | 17:26 |
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| mordred | at which point we can remove it | 17:26 |
| mordred | and cut a 1.0 | 17:27 |
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| mordred | if people would prefer that we put _'s in front of the client objects to make that clear, that's fine by me | 17:27 |
| clarkb | sdague: https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/api/json?tree=builds[duration,builtOn] | 17:27 |
| greghaynes | nono, if were using it then its public | 17:27 |
| sdague | clarkb: ok, great, thanks | 17:27 |
| clarkb | sdague: you can put a * in the [] and get all the fields | 17:28 |
| greghaynes | My impression is that these patches ended up not being that large - theres still just the networking bit that hasnt been done | 17:28 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: networking should be done by the nova client from shade still | 17:28 |
| greghaynes | and its also untested in nodepool, so first thing is im going to make nodepool test that... | 17:28 |
| clarkb | yes having a test would be good | 17:28 |
| mordred | greghaynes: that's right | 17:28 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: yes, its a dependency issue though - if networking happens first then you dont actually need the nova client object | 17:29 |
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| mordred | any time we move a nodepool function to use a shade api and not a passthrough client - it shoudl be because we've got good testing in shade | 17:29 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: yes I do | 17:29 |
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| greghaynes | you do? | 17:29 |
| mordred | greghaynes: we explicitly want to not make any changes first | 17:29 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: because I am not going to merge an 800 line change to nodepool and put it in production before I get rax image uploads working | 17:29 |
| mordred | right | 17:29 |
| mordred | the choice to use the passthrough clients is very deliberate | 17:29 |
| mordred | we want to chagne one nodepool function at a time | 17:29 |
| SpamapS | mordred: I'd rather see us make a new tiny library that takes shade cloud objects and makes clientlibraries, than pollute an 0.x library with things that are never intended for 1.0. This feels like a good way to get stuck with the client libraries forever. | 17:29 |
| mordred | nope | 17:30 |
| mordred | we're just going to do it | 17:30 |
| mordred | because we HAVE to | 17:30 |
| mordred | because there is no way to migrate nodepool otherwise | 17:30 |
| mordred | and I will NOT support them for ever | 17:30 |
| SpamapS | No way? | 17:30 |
| SpamapS | Or no way you want to? | 17:30 |
| mordred | no way that will happen | 17:30 |
| mordred | there is no way we're goign to land that large of a patch to nodepool | 17:30 |
| greghaynes | Im not sure where the 800 line number is coming from, but I think either way the path forward is 1) make nodepool test for networking, 2) write networking patch then we can decide ordering | 17:30 |
| SpamapS | Because I mean, it's just configuration data that you're coopting. | 17:30 |
| mordred | it's a CD'd into production service | 17:30 |
| greghaynes | i suspect it will be small but I could be wrong | 17:30 |
| SpamapS | Oh I agree the patch should be minimal. | 17:31 |
| clarkb | lets backup | 17:31 |
| clarkb | priority here has nothing to do with shade | 17:31 |
| clarkb | priority is make rax image uplods work | 17:31 |
| mordred | yes | 17:31 |
| mordred | that | 17:31 |
| clarkb | if we can make that happen simply with shade awesome | 17:31 |
| clarkb | if we can't then I will go write a nodepool change to do it nstead | 17:31 |
| mordred | we can | 17:31 |
| * greghaynes likes this | 17:31 | |
| mordred | the patches are already up | 17:31 |
| SpamapS | So whats preventing that from happening? | 17:31 |
| mordred | zomg | 17:31 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: your -1 | 17:32 |
| mordred | finishing these patches | 17:32 |
| mordred | migrating the rest of nodepool after rax image uploads happens can be done easy and stepwise | 17:32 |
| mordred | as the flavors patch shows | 17:32 |
| SpamapS | ok, first, I find your answer very rude and I don't believe that is an earnest reply. | 17:32 |
| mordred | I apologize for being rude - that was not my intent | 17:33 |
| SpamapS | second, I will of course back away into the minority position if others are comfortable making nodepool depend on something we are clearly stating will not be there in the near future. | 17:33 |
| fungi | anteaya: yes, https://review.openstack.org/174574 is completely safe to approve | 17:33 |
| mordred | SpamapS: the intent is for the use of shade.nova_client to be temporary in nature for ease of transition | 17:33 |
| fungi | just builds and uploads an index page to docs.openstack.org/infra | 17:34 |
| fungi | since we don't have one there yet | 17:34 |
| clarkb | not to derail the discussion btu I think shade should provide those as a public interface | 17:34 |
| SpamapS | mordred: yes, and I think that is folly, but I am entirely comfortable with registering my position, and not standing in the way of progress. | 17:34 |
| mordred | clarkb: I would not like to discuss that right now | 17:34 |
| clarkb | mordred: ok | 17:34 |
| anteaya | fungi: thank you that is what I thought, but I didn't want to break something if I was mis-understanding | 17:34 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: I approved, had the review open waiting ... | 17:34 |
| mordred | SpamapS: the main reason is that I tried doing a single patch before - and it's HUGE | 17:34 |
| AJaeger | now working on patch for openstack-manuals so that it can be found | 17:35 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: ah sorry so did I, double approved then | 17:35 |
| greghaynes | ok, so next question - with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168603/ and its parent I should be able to test an image upload to rax with my creds? | 17:35 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: no problem ;) | 17:35 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: ah cool | 17:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add fingerprint for bug 1447476 https://review.openstack.org/176919 | 17:35 |
| openstack | bug 1447476 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "No module named pathlib" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447476 | 17:35 |
| mordred | SpamapS: I mean, nodepool has a bunch of openstack logic in it right now - so the number of places that you have to change to stop using python*client is epic | 17:35 |
| greghaynes | er, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168633/ and its parent | 17:35 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: yes | 17:35 |
| mordred | SpamapS: and although we could make passthrough objects that kinda look like the current nova_client | 17:35 |
| SpamapS | mordred: sure, I don't think an adapter for nodepool<->shade configuration would be small. And I accept that with aggressive, focused effort, we won't fall into the trap I see coming. :) | 17:35 |
| timrc | Things are not looking terrible so far for nodepool. | 17:36 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: I may not be following what you mean by nodepool<->shade configuration adaptor | 17:36 |
| clarkb | timrc: ya, I am going to go to full capacity shortly | 17:36 |
| SpamapS | I don't want passthrough objects. | 17:36 |
| clarkb | timrc: I gave nodepool half our quota | 17:36 |
| clarkb | timrc: but its doing well so full steam ahead | 17:36 |
| mordred | it's not about configuration - it's that nodepool directly manipulates several different python-*client objects | 17:36 |
| timrc | clarkb, Glad to hear. | 17:36 |
| mordred | in several complex ways | 17:36 |
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| clarkb | let me know when I should argue for passthrough objects, because I think there is a specific useful use case for them | 17:37 |
| SpamapS | I'd make a factory that accepts either configuration and spits out client library objects. The code in nodepool would be kept simple, the factory would stay private to nodepool, and we'd remove it when we're done. | 17:37 |
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| SpamapS | Also if you have an end user wanting the client libraries to remain in shade.. there's that to consider too. So I bow out of the way and invite you all to move forward with caution. :) | 17:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: we can later - but shade is going to stop having python-*client depends because they are not for end users- it's either going to move to python-oepnstacksdk or will start making requests calls directly | 17:38 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think thats a bad idea but ok | 17:38 |
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| mordred | clarkb: the client libraries do not want us as users | 17:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: they are not designed for us | 17:38 |
| mordred | they will not accept our patches | 17:39 |
| mordred | they are designed for openstack services to talk to other openstack services | 17:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: but they are the only libraries that currently do any of this stuff | 17:39 |
| clarkb | the sdk is not there | 17:39 |
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| clarkb | and shade shouldn't be an sdk | 17:39 |
| mordred | clarkb: sure. I'm not going to delete them TOMORROW | 17:39 |
| mordred | I'm going to delete them when it's time to delete them | 17:39 |
| mordred | that's why literally 95% of the design decisions in shade are the way they are | 17:39 |
| mordred | they are an implementation detail | 17:40 |
| mordred | they are not an interface | 17:40 |
| mordred | and that's largely because their interface is SO BAD | 17:40 |
| mordred | I mean, it's so epically, monstrously, monumentally bad | 17:40 |
| clarkb | yes and the use case you do get out of the clients is that they work today | 17:40 |
| mordred | right | 17:40 |
| clarkb | for various values of work that are greater than anything else | 17:40 |
| SpamapS | mordred: an argument could be made to stop using them, but offer them up for those who want them. | 17:40 |
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| mordred | k. so - let's say this - right now they exist - there isa disagreement as to whether that should continue to be the case | 17:41 |
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| mordred | today we do not have to agree on that | 17:41 |
| mordred | and it might be a better beer discussion | 17:42 |
| dtroyer | fwiw, I think their use exclusively in services is the only reason they should exist long-term | 17:42 |
| mordred | dtroyer: ++ | 17:42 |
| fungi | any discussion of the current python-.*clients is more like a tequila shots discussion | 17:42 |
| mordred | fungi: +100 | 17:42 |
| AJaeger | fungi, here's the patch to change the index pages on docs.openstack.org for ci.openstack.org change: https://review.openstack.org/176921 | 17:43 |
| fungi | AJaeger: thanks! can you wip that until we actually have all the content up and confirmed? | 17:44 |
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| fungi | just want to make sure we don't start linking to an incomplete location | 17:45 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, done. | 17:45 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: i also wonder if we shouldn't remove the infra/manual link since this becomes somewhat redundant (the actual equivalent of ci.openstack.org is becoming docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config really). but that's not critical for now i guess | 17:47 |
| AJaeger | fungi: I was wondering this as well. annegentle what do you think? ^ | 17:47 |
| AJaeger | fungi, annegentle I left infra/manual in for now since that manual is so important that I'd like to have it singled out ;) | 17:47 |
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| clarkb | ok hpcloud is fully enabled in nodepool now | 17:48 |
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| sdague | I honestly really wonder how bad things would be if they didn't exist at all, and each project had to write their own. It would decouple a lot of things. | 17:50 |
| annegent_ | fungi: oh, hm. | 17:50 |
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| sdague | mordred: which clients won't take your patches? | 17:50 |
| clarkb | sdague: it would certainly reduce confusion for users of the existing clients | 17:50 |
| * anteaya confirms stream-events is working | 17:50 | |
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| mordred | sdague: not you -you're great! :) | 17:54 |
| fungi | AJaeger: annegent_: yeah, this is sort of also reorganizing things. the system-config repo docs used to also act as our index on ci.openstack.org, but we've accumulated so much other separate per-repo documentation that we really just need a separate index and have the system-config content on equal footing with everything else now | 17:54 |
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| clarkb | fungi: +1 | 17:55 |
| mordred | sdague, clarkb: I think a good future state would honestly be for python*client to not exist, for osc and python-openstacksdk to be ready to be the things that end-users use for command line and library - and for projects that need to talk to other projects over their rest api either just use requests directly, or something like that | 17:55 |
| mordred | that state is CLEARLY not going to happen any time soon | 17:56 |
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| briancurtin | sdk is really not that far away | 17:56 |
| sdague | it would be nice to set that as direction and put some measured steps to get there | 17:56 |
| briancurtin | but i dont know what "any time soon" means | 17:56 |
| fungi | "soon come" as they say in the caribbean | 17:57 |
| fungi | which often means "when i eventually get around to it (if ever)" | 17:57 |
| mordred | briancurtin: well, I meant that we won't be a the place where all the servers just use requests any time soon | 17:57 |
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| briancurtin | ah, yes | 17:57 |
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| mordred | briancurtin: and I agree, I imagine that shade could move to the sdk in the next 6-9 months - but there is another discussion lurking in there that I think is best left alone for the moment | 17:58 |
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| * timrc makes a mental note to read the last hour re: shade before bed because I have an interest in shade (living in Texas and all shade is an important to survival)... but now it is time to go get beer (which is another important part of survival). | 17:59 | |
| clarkb | anyways my argument is the clients are useful today. Because you have to do silly dances with them in order to do something as simple as upload an image to rax: first you have to keystone with rax for swift except that rax uses a different tenant id for object store, then you have to upload image to swift, then you have to submit a task to glance to use the image. The first couple steps there are a | 18:00 |
| clarkb | thing that anyone using rax swift must do. It is super handy to have that in shade and not reimplemented everywhere | 18:00 |
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| clarkb | so to make a decision today that we are not going to do something useful for shade users because we have bigger places in 9 months is silly. particularly since shade exists specifically to solve some of these problems | 18:00 |
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| clarkb | if in 9 months openstack is in a better place then great, shade can change its api on a deprecation cycle or make a 2.0 release | 18:01 |
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| dtroyer | OSC's ClientManager does this dance with the existing clients already. Id say just use it but I don't want OSc to be a library. you could copy it's function though | 18:01 |
| sdague | clarkb: yeh, the api works much better - https://github.com/sdague/tempest-timings/commit/a7cbafa6057adf5376ee98ce84c271cc12faa5e6 | 18:01 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: why not use the db to get that? | 18:03 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: oh, I guess because the setupclass teardown class times aren't in the subunit | 18:03 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: and devstack isn't included | 18:03 |
| sdague | mtreinish: are you capturing which cloud ? | 18:04 |
| mtreinish | sdague: yes | 18:04 |
| mtreinish | if it's in the logstash metadata it's in the run_metadata table | 18:05 |
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| sdague | ok, maybe, I had code that already did this | 18:05 |
| mtreinish | sure | 18:05 |
| sdague | and it doesn't require a db connection | 18:05 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: well I was making a shameless plug in the hopes you'd add the missing pieces you would need to the subunit2sql db api and commands | 18:07 |
| mtreinish | I can dream | 18:07 |
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| sdague | yeh, not during weeks when I have to do a requirements unwind :) | 18:07 |
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| sdague | anyone able to answer a Depends-On hypothetical? | 18:10 |
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| sdague | for 176723,4 | 18:10 |
| sdague | the depends on exists in master and stable/kilo devstack | 18:11 |
| sdague | but we actually only want it in stable/kilo | 18:11 |
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| sdague | if we abandon in master, will zuul block it? | 18:11 |
| clarkb | sdague: yes | 18:11 |
| sdague | bummer | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add an index.html for docs.o.o/infra https://review.openstack.org/174574 | 18:11 |
| clarkb | there was talk of changing that behavior and treating abandoned as a merge equivalent since its the authors saying this isn't needed anymore so depending on it is :( | 18:11 |
| sdague | so there is no way to correct this except test, land, wait, modify commit message, move on | 18:12 |
| sdague | I guess I could also go modify the idempotent idea on the stable | 18:12 |
| clarkb | another idea was to optionally allow a branch specification on the dpeneds on so you could depend on a more specific change | 18:12 |
| clarkb | sdague: ya you can make a new change with a new change id | 18:12 |
| clarkb | this has been the workaround most have used | 18:12 |
| fungi | yeah, modifying the change-id causes it to become a new change. it doesn't "move" the change to a new id | 18:13 |
| sdague | ok, I'll wait until I see if it fixes things, given that it took an hour to get nodes to get started | 18:13 |
| fungi | you just get two changes, one with the old id and then a new one with a different id | 18:13 |
| sdague | but then we should be able to pipeline better for land | 18:13 |
| sdague | neutron is currently blocked in master | 18:13 |
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| sdague | so, honestly, I like Abandon changes blocking things | 18:14 |
| sdague | however, it sucks there is no way to kill and abandoned change with fire | 18:14 |
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| fungi | i'm on the fence about treating abandoned as merged for that purpose though. i can equally see people surprised by "how did this change merge? the change it depends on got abandoned and so is not in place!" | 18:14 |
| sdague | like not only abandon, but make it never have existed | 18:15 |
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| sdague | yeh, I feel like there is an extra bit of info there we need | 18:15 |
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| clarkb | sdague: we don't like deleting data :) I think it is a good decision that gerrit doesn't let you remove code | 18:15 |
| sdague | abandon because it's terrible, or abandon because "oops" | 18:15 |
| fungi | branch-specific vs branch-independent depends-on | 18:15 |
| clarkb | worst case you change some passwords, thats doable | 18:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: project-config: Merge lint jobs (2/2) https://review.openstack.org/164520 | 18:15 |
| sdague | clarkb: I guess, this was just a flat oops that had consequences I didn't consider before setting up the test stack | 18:16 |
| fungi | if we had a branch-specific syntax like Depends-On: I30f9965e4ee0ebe850e50edce4224599c6aa608b/stable/kilo then it could just be a matter of updating the commit message | 18:16 |
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| sdague | yeh | 18:16 |
| sdague | I should have asked earlier :) | 18:16 |
| fungi | though then we'd get into the similar project-specific depends-on use case | 18:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Update flavor API for new get/list/search API https://review.openstack.org/176931 | 18:17 |
| fungi | because you can get into the same situation if you depends-on an id which has a corresponding change on two projects and one of those is abandoned | 18:17 |
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| clarkb | yup changes are unique based on the tuple of (changeid, branch, project) | 18:18 |
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| clarkb | mordred fungi: hpcloud is holding up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176881/ can proably be approved then I can reenable puppet on nodepool.o.o | 18:19 |
| fungi | so we'd likely want to come up with something like Depends-On: I30f9965e4ee0ebe850e50edce4224599c6aa608b^stable/kilo^openstack-dev/devstack-gate and then allow the second and third fields to be empty and trailing ^ to be missing | 18:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: woot! | 18:20 |
| sdague | ok, I'll do the flips now | 18:20 |
| fungi | and that starts to get unwieldy long in a commit message line | 18:20 |
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| mordred | clarkb: wow. the graphs look WAY better | 18:20 |
| clarkb | yup, particularly with deletes and builds | 18:21 |
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| fungi | we're actually successfully using more than just our rackspace quota, whereas last week enabling hpcloud meant we used less than our rackspace quota in total | 18:21 |
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| fungi | i'm checking for signs of fip and alien leaks | 18:22 |
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| fungi | turning them back on make quick work of zuul's job backlog too | 18:23 |
| fungi | er, made | 18:23 |
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| marcusvrn1 | hi guys, has someone that uses gerrit plugin for jenkins? I'm trying to use the gerrit trigger plugin and it's working, but the verified message is not as expected...how can I format it as required? | 18:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add fingerprint for bug 1447476 https://review.openstack.org/176919 | 18:24 |
| openstack | bug 1447476 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "No module named pathlib" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447476 | 18:24 |
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| anteaya | marcusvrn1: were you waiting for a guy to respond or is talking to me okay? | 18:26 |
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| fungi | looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167716/5/doc/source/third_party.rst has been waiting on a review for a while | 18:27 |
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| marcusvrn1 | anteaya: I'm asking for someone who use gerrit plugin...I don't know who uses gerrit plugin or zuul | 18:28 |
| marcusvrn1 | anteaya: do you use gerrit plugin? | 18:28 |
| anteaya | marcusvrn1: no but fungi just pointed to a patch that answers your question: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167716/5 | 18:29 |
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| anteaya | marcusvrn1: my point was I am a woman not a guy | 18:29 |
| marcusvrn1 | anteaya: perfect | 18:29 |
| marcusvrn1 | anteaya: ah...lol | 18:29 |
| marcusvrn1 | sorry | 18:29 |
| AJaeger | fungi, clarkb: Could either of you review a translation import "optimization", please? https://review.openstack.org/176313 | 18:30 |
| marcusvrn1 | s/guys/folks | 18:30 |
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| fungi | that just got approved and should end up on our published documentation as soon as we switch over to http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/third_party.html | 18:30 |
| fungi | AJaeger: cool! i saw the ml thread about this. awesome work | 18:30 |
| AJaeger | fungi: dolphm challenged me ;) | 18:31 |
| anteaya | marcusvrn1: thanks, I do feel folks includes me | 18:31 |
| fungi | "challenge accepted!" | 18:31 |
| AJaeger | figuring out that it works was the tricky part, the change is minor ;) | 18:31 |
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| marcusvrn1 | anteaya: :) | 18:32 |
| AJaeger | thanks, fungi! | 18:32 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: yeah, i'm thrilled that we can now have a 1-2 line translation update change reviewers can look at to see what's actually changing without having to wade through thousands of location change comment lines to find them | 18:33 |
| anteaya | marcusvrn1: thanks | 18:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Allow blank lines in node{} with apply test https://review.openstack.org/176482 | 18:34 |
| clarkb | pleia2: ^ that should be ready now | 18:34 |
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| pleia2 | clarkb: thanks, I'll give it a go | 18:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Revert "Revert "Revert "Turn off HP in nodepool""" https://review.openstack.org/176881 | 18:34 |
| dolphm | fungi: ++! | 18:35 |
| AJaeger | fungi: yeah! | 18:35 |
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| AJaeger | Let me send the corresponding patch for the other projects and mark it as WIP. we should wait at least two days to see the changes | 18:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Third party CI: document how to properly format message with Gerrit Trigger https://review.openstack.org/167716 | 18:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Make multinode first class with ansible https://review.openstack.org/172614 | 18:43 |
| clarkb | sdague: ^ that addressed a merge conflict and your -1 | 18:44 |
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| dansmith | clarkb: cool :) | 18:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Decrease PO files for Doc team imports https://review.openstack.org/176313 | 18:52 |
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| clarkb | mordred: fungi any change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176912/ can get quick review? should speed up our puppet run cycle | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Decrease PO files for imports (horizon+friends) https://review.openstack.org/176943 | 19:06 |
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| mordred | clarkb: +2 | 19:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/requirements: Add cachetools requirement https://review.openstack.org/152953 | 19:12 |
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| mordred | harlowja: can I make a suggestion? ^^ | 19:13 |
| harlowja | mordred always | 19:14 |
| mordred | harlowja: keystoneclient and shade both use dogpile.cache, the author of which works on openstack for redhat - any reason to not use it? | 19:14 |
| * harlowja didn't think that dogpile.cache had a LRU cache mechanism that worked in memory | 19:15 | |
| mordred | it's possible it doesn't | 19:15 |
| mordred | which would be a good answer to "why" | 19:15 |
| mordred | :) | 19:15 |
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| harlowja | ya, last time i checked it didn't | 19:15 |
| mordred | k | 19:15 |
| harlowja | https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/dogpile.cache/src/229615be466d00c9c135a90d8965679ab3e4edaa/dogpile/cache/backends/memory.py?at=master#cl-20 | 19:16 |
| harlowja | not that it couldn't,, just doesn't right now | 19:16 |
| harlowja | maybe dogpile.cache should just use cachetools then and bam... | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | fungi: pleia2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176912/1 any other takers? | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | I have reenabled puppet on nodepool | 19:18 |
| mordred | clarkb: yay | 19:18 |
| clarkb | --noop showed no diff | 19:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/requirements: Add cachetools requirement https://review.openstack.org/152953 | 19:19 |
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| harlowja | mordred i updated with alternative possilbiity | 19:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Decrease PO files for python projects https://review.openstack.org/176947 | 19:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Roberts proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update to akanda project https://review.openstack.org/176948 | 19:26 |
| AJaeger | dolphm: that's the patch you want next week ^ (176947) | 19:26 |
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| dolphm | AJaeger: +2! | 19:29 |
| dolphm | AJaeger: err, +1! | 19:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Run more puppet agents at a time with ansible https://review.openstack.org/176912 | 19:29 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, dolphm | 19:30 |
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| anteaya | mordred: are there infra playbooks in any location in addition to http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/ansible/playbooks | 19:38 |
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| mordred | anteaya: nope | 19:39 |
| anteaya | okay thank you | 19:39 |
| mordred | anteaya: although I did write one ... | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Enable OpenID logins https://review.openstack.org/176624 | 19:39 |
| mordred | that has not yet landed | 19:39 |
| anteaya | may I look at teh patch? | 19:39 |
| mordred | anteaya: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175147/ | 19:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Support feature/development for askbot-theme https://review.openstack.org/176958 | 19:45 |
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| anteaya | mordred: thank you | 19:45 |
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| anteaya | mordred: so you want playbooks to remain in system-config | 19:48 |
| mordred | anteaya: unsure | 19:48 |
| anteaya | mordred: what else might you be contemplating? | 19:48 |
| mordred | anteaya: I'm not sure I have a strong opinion on it yet - although I could imagine a world where system-config is _only_ a set of playbooks :) | 19:48 |
| marcusvrn1 | anteaya: devstack-gate script uses zuul parameters, such as ZUUL_REF, ZUUL_PROJECT,... doesn't it? Using gerrit trigger plugin, how can I use the devstack-gate scripts? | 19:49 |
| clarkb | mordred you should read the system config integration test spec | 19:49 |
| anteaya | mordred: oh? | 19:49 |
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| clarkb | mordred I basically assert that the playbooks to make infra go there | 19:49 |
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| anteaya | mordred: I personally was thinking that playbooks should be out of system-config in its own space, you are offering that playbooks are the only thing in system-config | 19:50 |
| clarkb | mordred then we can use them to test and do prod which is neat | 19:50 |
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| anteaya | marcusvrn1: first question, answer is yes devstack-gate scripts use zuul paramaters | 19:50 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah. I believe I'm inclined to agree with you - I'll go look for the spec | 19:51 |
| mordred | anteaya: why do you think they should not be there/ | 19:51 |
| clarkb | anteaya imo playbooks go in system-config for the reasons I point out on that spec | 19:51 |
| anteaya | marcusvrn1: second question, I don't know the answer there as I have not done what you are doing nor have I talked to anyone who is about that question | 19:51 |
| anteaya | mordred: my natural tendency is for new things to not encroach on existing things | 19:52 |
| anteaya | mordred: that is the only reason | 19:52 |
| anteaya | clarkb: thank you, I will read the spec | 19:52 |
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| mordred | anteaya: nod | 19:53 |
| mordred | clarkb: I cannot find your spec | 19:55 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I'm looking at gerrit for open infra-specs as well as specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs for published specs and so far what you describe is not jumping out at me | 19:55 |
| anteaya | clarkb: or what mordred said | 19:55 |
| mordred | clarkb: do you mean Specification proposal about system-config testing using containers ? | 19:55 |
| greghaynes | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172833/ | 19:55 |
| greghaynes | mordred: pretty sure, yes, thats what he means | 19:55 |
| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172833/ | 19:56 |
| clarkb | ya that one | 19:56 |
| clarkb | the totle should probably be updated its more "perform integration testing of puppet modules and services" | 19:56 |
| clarkb | containers is an implementation detail | 19:56 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I support a title change | 19:57 |
| anteaya | yes since containers is all I see when I see that spec | 19:57 |
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| anteaya | the testing part gets lost to me | 19:57 |
| anteaya | and I think it is rather the point | 19:58 |
| marcusvrn1 | anteaya: hmm...but there's something like devstack-gate that works with gerrit trigger plugin? | 19:58 |
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| anteaya | marcusvrn1: like devstack-gate, we only have one devstack-gate | 19:59 |
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| anteaya | I don't know who else runs gerrit trigger plugin so I don't know who to suggest asking to see if they are doing what you are trying to do | 19:59 |
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| clarkb | you can probably map gerrit trigger vars to d-g vars | 20:00 |
| clarkb | not all will apply but the basic ones should | 20:00 |
| marcusvrn1 | anteaya: hmmm... I see | 20:00 |
| marcusvrn1 | clarkb: yes, I think it can be an alternative | 20:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Display Upstream Changes Plugin https://review.openstack.org/176963 | 20:07 |
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| fungi | pretty sure there are at least some third-party ci operators firing devstack-gate via the gerrit-trigger jenkins plugin, i just have no idea who they are | 20:11 |
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| maishsk | Good evening all. Anyone here? | 20:12 |
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| asselin | marcusvrn1, Sukhdev from th mailing list seems to be using gerrit trigger plugin | 20:13 |
| clarkb | salvatore may do it too | 20:14 |
| Sukhdev | asselin marcusvrn1: I can provide a link, if you are interested | 20:14 |
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| anteaya | asselin Sukhdev thank you | 20:15 |
| anteaya | you are wonderful | 20:15 |
| marcusvrn1 | asselin: oh, nice!! | 20:15 |
| maishsk | Does anyone know of any issues with the mailing lists? | 20:15 |
| anteaya | maishsk: what are you seeing that prompts you to ask? | 20:15 |
| maishsk | for reason - I am not getting all of the emails | 20:15 |
| marcusvrn1 | Sukhdev: sure! | 20:15 |
| maishsk | for example messages sent to openstack-dev with the tag [all] are not coming through - even though I see them on the archive | 20:16 |
| anteaya | maishsk: that can often happen if are are in a corporate email environment, depending on how the corporation sets up its email servers | 20:16 |
| anteaya | maishsk: corporate email or personal email? | 20:16 |
| maishsk | anteaya: gmail. | 20:17 |
| anteaya | interesting, I don't recall problems with gmail before | 20:17 |
| Sukhdev | marcusvrn1: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Arista-third-party-testing | 20:17 |
| anteaya | maishsk: can you check your trash and spam folders? | 20:17 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add qemu-img to dib functests https://review.openstack.org/176965 | 20:17 |
| anteaya | maishsk: gmail might be helping you to filter out the email | 20:18 |
| clarkb | I had to stop using gmail due to biunces | 20:18 |
| anteaya | clarkb: oh really? | 20:18 |
| Sukhdev | marcusvrn1: Read the doc on the wiki for details | 20:18 |
| anteaya | maishsk: I stand corrected, clarkb has had problems before with gmail | 20:18 |
| clarkb | anteaya ya but was awhile ago | 20:18 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/176965 :( | 20:18 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: the centos test passes though, so in theory the other bits are correct now | 20:19 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes maybe put that in your script? | 20:19 |
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| clarkb | so you dont have to chase infra | 20:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add qemu-img to dib functests https://review.openstack.org/176965 | 20:20 |
| marcusvrn1 | Sukhdev: ok, thank you! | 20:20 |
| marcusvrn1 | asselin: thanks | 20:20 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: I dont think running tests should sudo apt-get install, but I am going to put a guard in our script to not run those formats if qemu-img isnt found | 20:20 |
| clarkb | greghaynes kk | 20:20 |
| anteaya | maishsk: are you one of the tc candidates and missing this email? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062427.html | 20:21 |
| anteaya | maishsk: I can forward it to you if you like so you can reply | 20:21 |
| clarkb | greghaynes need to sudo yum | 20:21 |
| anteaya | maishsk: you can pm me your email | 20:21 |
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| anteaya | or it might be better if it comes from an election official? | 20:22 |
| anteaya | pleia2: are you able to help maishsk out? | 20:22 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: just updated with that | 20:22 |
| maishsk | anteaya: Exactly. | 20:23 |
| fungi | maishsk: looking in the logs on the listserver, i don't see any rejects for delivery to your address (and plenty of successful hand-offs to google for your address). mailman doesn't seem to have recorded recent bounces for any of your subscriptions either | 20:23 |
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| anteaya | maishsk: let's let pleia2 help you out | 20:24 |
| anteaya | she is an election official and I am a fellow candidate | 20:24 |
| anteaya | maishsk: she should be around soon | 20:24 |
| maishsk | anteaya: Loved the astrology aspect of your answer... :) | 20:25 |
| anteaya | maishsk: ah thanks :) | 20:25 |
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| anteaya | figured there would be a few who would understand and appreciate it | 20:25 |
| anteaya | :) | 20:26 |
| anteaya | I'm looking forward to reading your response | 20:26 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: so your point is that if mordred has a vision for system-config's destiny he should be aware there is a spec in the works for testing? | 20:33 |
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| clarkb | yes because there are interactions between them | 20:34 |
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| greghaynes | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176618/ has passed tests and is +A'able if anyone would like | 20:34 |
| anteaya | mordred: I'm wondering how tangible your vision of system-config only having playbooks in it is, as the testing spec seems to carry the idea of test all teh things in system-config but uses puppet fairly heavily in the language | 20:34 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: makes sense, yes | 20:34 |
| anteaya | perhaps the spec could be more generic in describing all teh things should be tested and just default to modular language rather than specifying puppet | 20:35 |
| anteaya | as in the deployment strategy for zuul should be tested etc | 20:36 |
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| mordred | anteaya: well, I don't think it's important per-se that there be no puppet in system-config | 20:36 |
| anteaya | oh I mis-understood your prior statement then | 20:36 |
| mordred | anteaya: just that I could see the entry point to the repo becoming a set of ansible playbooks to deploy nodes and run puppet in them | 20:36 |
| mordred | rather than site.pp which is the current main thing | 20:36 |
| mordred | we've been splitting puppet modules out into their own repos quite a bit - one could imagine a world where modules/openstack-project is also in a different repo _maybe_ | 20:37 |
| anteaya | I could imagine a world where system config is _only_ a set of playbooks | 20:37 |
| mordred | yah | 20:37 |
| mordred | but I'm not sure it's the right world | 20:37 |
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| mordred | just that I can imagine it | 20:37 |
| anteaya | oh okay yeah | 20:37 |
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| anteaya | I made the mistake of trying to catch up to one of your dreams while you where still sampling | 20:38 |
| anteaya | silly me | 20:38 |
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| anteaya | okay yes, playbooks as the entry point is something I also can imagine in system-config | 20:38 |
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| anteaya | I think I need to go for a walk | 20:40 |
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| zigo | sdague: Is there a new version of tempest-lib which does *not* include subunit-trace anymore? I'm asking because of adding subunit-trace from os-testr ... | 20:54 |
| zigo | I'd like to avoid conflicts if possible! :) | 20:55 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: ^ | 21:00 |
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| mtreinish | zigo: it'll be removed from tempest-lib in a future release, and os-testr added to tempest-lib requirements | 21:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ron Desmarais proposed openstack-infra/project-config: new-project https://review.openstack.org/176983 | 21:01 |
| mtreinish | things were hung up on requirements/release freeze for a few weeks | 21:01 |
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| clarkb | I think we are puppeting every half hour now | 21:04 |
| fungi | clarkb: improvement! | 21:04 |
| clarkb | the gerrit/git/afs puppet takes about 10 minutes | 21:05 |
| clarkb | everything else about 15 so ~25 minutes per run | 21:05 |
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| mordred | woot | 21:05 |
| clarkb | but reading ansible logs is really hard | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | I know ansible doens't want timestamps but thats crazy | 21:05 |
| zigo | mtreinish: The point I'm trying to make, is that I will need to have this transition to happen at once in Debian. | 21:06 |
| zigo | Sorry if I wasn't clear... | 21:06 |
| mordred | clarkb: I keep meaning to learn how to fix that | 21:06 |
| mtreinish | zigo: for example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170272/ | 21:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Have get_image_name return an image_name https://review.openstack.org/176549 | 21:06 |
| mordred | Shrews, greghaynes, SpamapS: ^^ added unit and functional test | 21:06 |
| mordred | clarkb: I guess you too | 21:06 |
| mordred | :) | 21:06 |
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| mtreinish | zigo: sure, that'll have to happen when you push the 0.6.0 tempest-lib package, but os-testr will be a new req then | 21:07 |
| mtreinish | (I doubt it'll make it for the next release) | 21:07 |
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| clarkb | mordred: did you see I run the devstack-gate logstamper when running ansible | 21:08 |
| zigo | mtreinish: I really hope we're frozen enough so such things wont reach Kilo! :) | 21:08 |
| clarkb | mordred: that actually works pretty well for that particular use case | 21:08 |
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| mordred | ++ | 21:08 |
| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172614/ | 21:08 |
| clarkb | in that change | 21:08 |
| clarkb | which should be ready for review now | 21:09 |
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| mordred | uhoh. I could land that and it could go live and the world could be scary | 21:09 |
| thingee | Hi infra. I'm tried to tag os-brick for release. I followed instructions here http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#tagging-a-release, but after I push things to gerrit and ran git os-job 0.1.0 and got http://logs.openstack.org/89/89a6b0ae7a61ffa697555306b154119915f0cac0/ | 21:10 |
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| thingee | Might've been related to a bunch of library issues from earlier this week. | 21:10 |
| thingee | according to dhellmann | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | actually I thought it might have been due to some of the gerrit issues we've had lately | 21:11 |
| thingee | my mistake | 21:11 |
| mordred | clarkb: I'm +2 but did not +A it just in case you wanted other people to review or whatnot | 21:12 |
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| clarkb | mordred: ty | 21:12 |
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| thingee | the tag shows up on github though https://github.com/openstack/os-brick/tree/0.1.0 | 21:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Add test for create_image with glance v1 https://review.openstack.org/175699 | 21:13 |
| clarkb | ya the tag exists | 21:13 |
| clarkb | that is the correct sha1 of the tag | 21:13 |
| clarkb | thingee: when did you push the release? | 21:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Fix get_hostvars_from_server for volume API update https://review.openstack.org/176789 | 21:13 |
| fungi | thingee: looks like it should be 0b/0b89d9b3e7d899f318eadbeb866f6f675f20ead0 | 21:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: no thats the sha of the commit not the tag | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | fungi: http://logs.openstack.org/0b/0b89d9b3e7d899f318eadbeb866f6f675f20ead0/ is also a 404 | 21:13 |
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| clarkb | the problem is there are no publish jobs on that project | 21:13 |
| fungi | oh, yep, sorry | 21:13 |
| clarkb | so this is expected behavior | 21:14 |
| thingee | clarkb: april 21 9:00 utc | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | ah! missing jobs | 21:14 |
| fungi | you're right, 89/89a6b0ae7a61ffa697555306b154119915f0cac0 per http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-brick/tag/?id=0.1.0 | 21:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Revert "Disable syncs to libs to unjam master requirements changes" https://review.openstack.org/174447 | 21:14 |
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| fungi | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n2859 | 21:14 |
| fungi | os-brick is shy a few release-related jobs or project-templates | 21:15 |
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| fungi | so nothing ran for it in the release pipeline at all | 21:15 |
| fungi | which explains why there were no logs uploaded | 21:15 |
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| thingee | doh ok, thanks | 21:16 |
| thingee | so after I update that, am I able to start a publish job without doing a new tag? | 21:17 |
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| clarkb | thingee: ya, but you will need an infra core (fungi, myself, pleia2, jeblair mordred etc) to trigger the job | 21:17 |
| clarkb | pleia2: ^ if you are around this ma be a good learning thing | 21:18 |
| thingee | pleia2: :) | 21:18 |
| clarkb | we basically dump the job onto gearman directly rather than having zuul figure it out from a gerrit event | 21:18 |
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| fungi | though in this case, since nothing at all was triggered for the release pipeline, will there be a zuul merger with the appropriate refs? | 21:20 |
| fungi | or i guess we can substitute git.openstack.org in place of a zuul merger | 21:20 |
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| fungi | oh, however log uploads probably wont work if they're doing it via swift for those jobs already | 21:21 |
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| clarkb | good point | 21:22 |
| clarkb | hrm as an alternative we can delete the tag and retag the same commit | 21:22 |
| thingee | fungi: so this just needs publish-to-pypi? any others? | 21:22 |
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| clarkb | to force and event. | 21:22 |
| clarkb | side note: if we have a gerrit event proxy we could inject our own events | 21:22 |
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| fungi | thingee: hrm, we need tarball jobs for it too | 21:23 |
| fungi | looking now to refresh my memory on what those various project-templates expand to | 21:23 |
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| fungi | thingee: ahh, yep those are covered by publish-to-pypi | 21:25 |
| fungi | so that should be sufficient | 21:25 |
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| thingee | not sure this has gate-os-brick-pep8, gate-os-brick-python27 instead of just using python jobs | 21:26 |
| thingee | python-jobs | 21:26 |
| mordred | raisins | 21:26 |
| thingee | ah ok | 21:26 |
| fungi | python-jobs would also add gate-os-brick-docs which you may not have support in the repo for yet | 21:27 |
| thingee | fungi: I see a doc/source dir... | 21:27 |
| thingee | that's all I know to check for anyways | 21:27 |
| fungi | e.g. whether 'tox -e venv python setup.py build_sphinx' works in it | 21:27 |
| * thingee tries it | 21:27 | |
| fungi | maybe it grew working documentation builds after the jobs were originally added for brick in zuul | 21:28 |
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| fungi | and nobody ever circled back to start running that | 21:28 |
| thingee | fungi: yeah it works..I'll replace those | 21:29 |
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| fungi | that's really mostly just so that nobody merges a change which breaks your docs build for it | 21:29 |
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| fungi | if you actually want them published somewhere too, then either add openstack-server-publish-jobs (to update the published version on every commit) or openstack-client-publish-jobs (to only update the published version each time a release is tagged) | 21:31 |
| asselin | does the infra team use https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca ? | 21:32 |
| asselin | use Openstack/Monasca (not the wiki) | 21:32 |
| fungi | nope | 21:32 |
| asselin | any particular reason? | 21:33 |
| fungi | for starters, i have no idea what it even does? | 21:33 |
| asselin | ok :) | 21:33 |
| fungi | looks like plenty of moving parts http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/monasca | 21:34 |
| fungi | aha, monitoring as a service | 21:35 |
| fungi | i guess that's something we'd potentially consume from hpcloud or rackspace if either of them have it available? | 21:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add publishing, check-requirement jobs to os-brick https://review.openstack.org/176996 | 21:35 |
| asselin | fungi, yeah...I'm looking at ops/monitoring tool. came across that. | 21:36 |
| fungi | asselin: right now we don't (yet) operate an openstack cloud, so would only presumably be able to consume that from one or more of the public service providers donating resources to us | 21:37 |
| timrc-bar | It is something the cloud provider would need to provide (monasca) AFAICT | 21:37 |
| asselin | ok I was hoping it's standalone, but conveniently plugs into openstack ui | 21:38 |
| asselin | thanks...I'll dig a bit deeper | 21:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: SpamapS comments on 176024 | 21:40 |
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| clarkb | I am slightly concerned about the cache there | 21:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack/requirements: Require flake8 2.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/157985 | 21:42 |
| krotscheck | Is there a pbr channel? | 21:42 |
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| dhellmann | krotscheck: most of the pbr contributors are in this channel, even though it is technically an oslo lib | 21:42 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Sweet. | 21:43 |
| mordred | clarkb: I agree - we actually have a todo list task to provide a check-status method for things that you might want to poll on | 21:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Don't override package when set in .coveragerc https://review.openstack.org/171331 | 21:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Be safe, don't let friends use RawConfigParser https://review.openstack.org/176997 | 21:44 |
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| mordred | clarkb: (except with different names) - so I believe we need to make sure that does the appropriate things and whatnot - AND to document polling+cache | 21:45 |
| clarkb | mordred: ok I guess that just leaves the test being funky then | 21:45 |
| mordred | clarkb: also. tasks. facepalm. | 21:46 |
| clarkb | mordred: ya... I was trying to figure out how it was mocking the shade tasks | 21:46 |
| clarkb | mordred: then lightbulb happened | 21:46 |
| krotscheck | So, I'm helping refstack out with their migration to use angular things, and frankly the two-project approach (like storyboard) is overkill for them - they'll be way happier if they keep it all in one project. | 21:47 |
| krotscheck | With that in mind, I was wondering if I can make pbr assist with the front-end package resolution. With an end goal of "pip install . | 21:48 |
| krotscheck | Ug | 21:48 |
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| krotscheck | "pip install ." both installing all python requirements and, if present, bower requirements. | 21:48 |
| clarkb | pbr does not currently know how to do that | 21:48 |
| krotscheck | I know this. | 21:48 |
| clarkb | it does however have hook points and one of them is for package installs iirc | 21:49 |
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| krotscheck | My question is: Should pbr know how to do that. | 21:49 |
| clarkb | so it should be possible to put a pbr hook in refstack that does this | 21:49 |
| clarkb | no I don't think pbr should know how to do that | 21:49 |
| clarkb | but I do think it is ok to use pbr's hooks to do it | 21:49 |
| clarkb | trying to find an example, I think neutron did something likethat at one point | 21:50 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Is this a stevedore thing? | 21:50 |
| fungi | though be mindful of the recent rant on the distutils-sig ml about python packages that do insane things in their setup scripts besides just set themselves up | 21:50 |
| * krotscheck digs trough pbr to find stevedore things. | 21:50 | |
| clarkb | ya https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/neutron/hooks.py#n19 | 21:50 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: no its not stevedore, pbr has no deps other than setuptools | 21:51 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Already considered. refstack is not, at present, interested in being python packaged. | 21:51 |
| fungi | got it | 21:51 |
| krotscheck | Gotcha | 21:51 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: you can see how that is applied to pbr in the setup.cfg | 21:51 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Thanks, I'll clone neutron. Low on tethering battery. | 21:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | "Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Be safe, don't let friends use RawConfigParser" a.k.a. "Friends don't let friends use RawConfigParser" | 21:52 |
| fungi | sigmavirus24: i'll adjust the commit message if you really, really want | 21:53 |
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| dstufft | fungi: why not RawConfigParser? | 21:53 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I disagree a bit - I think pbr should know how to do this | 21:55 |
| fungi | dstufft: partly at lifeless's request, but generally interpolation safety? | 21:55 |
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| clarkb | mordred: really? its explicitly python build reasonableness and we have had an assertion that one project per repo is what is reasonable | 21:55 |
| mordred | clarkb: it's a fairly common thing for python folks to want to include javascript things in their thing, and I expect it to become more so - I see no reason why detecting the presence of an appropriate config file shoudln't DTRT | 21:55 |
| dstufft | fungi: well why do you want to interpolate at all | 21:56 |
| mordred | clarkb: ok. I'm going to change the backronyum | 21:56 |
| clarkb | mordred: because we have already said thats not a reasonable thing to do | 21:56 |
| clarkb | mordred: ha | 21:56 |
| fungi | dstufft: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171331/2/pbr/testr_command.py | 21:56 |
| mordred | I'm not saying 2 projects per repo | 21:56 |
| mordred | I'm saying a project that has python and javascript components | 21:56 |
| clarkb | mordred: you are saying two artifacts per repo | 21:56 |
| mordred | I'm not | 21:56 |
| clarkb | mordred: its not a python sdist/whl and a javascript minified tarball? | 21:56 |
| clarkb | (I thought thats what bower did) | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: sorry, was off doing paperwork things (woo expense reports) | 21:57 |
| greghaynes | aw crap, I need to do those | 21:57 |
| mordred | bower pulls in javascript depends | 21:57 |
| lifeless | dstufft: we don't control the config files | 21:57 |
| mordred | clarkb: so - if it's a python project such that it makes sense to have pbr config | 21:57 |
| lifeless | dstufft: if folk are using interpolation elsewhere, we need to support it in our code | 21:57 |
| dstufft | ah hm, I was wrong. I thought that distutils used RawConfigParser itself | 21:58 |
| mordred | clarkb: and it needs to have some html/javascript as part of what it maintains | 21:58 |
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| dstufft | just looked ant it's configparser | 21:58 |
| clarkb | mordred: I thought it also minified and made the resulting thing you host off a weserver | 21:58 |
| lifeless | dstufft: :) | 21:58 |
| mordred | clarkb: I see no reason for it to not use the right tool to do that, to do the things, and then to put those things into the python sdist | 21:58 |
| mordred | clarkb: it may or may not do many of those things - but I see no reason to not do those things as part of building the sdist so that the sdist has the thigns in it that you need | 21:58 |
| clarkb | oh you want to put them in the sdist? how do you get them back out? | 21:59 |
| mordred | clarkb: which is to say - I don't think it's unreasonable to go down the path of finding the right way to stich these things together | 21:59 |
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| clarkb | just thinking out loud here. it is really hard to say install manpages | 21:59 |
| clarkb | so how does one make install javascript any better | 21:59 |
| mordred | we do it with git-review | 21:59 |
| mordred | and who said anythinga bout installing javascript | 21:59 |
| clarkb | mordred: you did, you said it would go in an sdist, then later presumabl you install that sdist which does the correct things for the javasript | 22:00 |
| mordred | I mean, it's not a thing that needs to go into a location | 22:00 |
| clarkb | otherwise you just have javascript in an sdist which is mostl useless | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add publishing, check-requirement jobs to os-brick https://review.openstack.org/176996 | 22:00 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I do not know the answers to all of teh things- but I think if there are good answers, pbr is a great place to put them | 22:00 |
| mordred | because there are a non-zero number of projects that want to combine python and javascript in a non-insane way | 22:01 |
| clarkb | ok | 22:01 |
| mordred | and it would be nice if there was just a straight-forward way to do that | 22:01 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: all of teh above notwithstanding - clarkb's suggestion of a hook might be a good way to start poking at what it looks like | 22:01 |
| clarkb | not to furhter stir things, but how is this different than say xstatic? | 22:02 |
| mordred | krotscheck: and once you iterate on that a few times, what teh combination of the two feels like might make more sense | 22:02 |
| mordred | clarkb: well, that's the other thing | 22:02 |
| clarkb | eg why not just xstatic if this is what you want | 22:02 |
| mordred | clarkb: that's ignoring the javascript toolchain and packaging javascript in python packages | 22:02 |
| mordred | so taht python packages can depend on it | 22:02 |
| mordred | this is doing teh opposite | 22:02 |
| mordred | it's saying "I have a python something that wants to consume javascript packaged things" | 22:02 |
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| mordred | xstatic is the assumption that for some reason javascript libraries should be packaged and consumable by pip | 22:03 |
| mordred | which is crazy | 22:03 |
| clarkb | mordred: well Ithink its one solution to this problem ( and I agree its crazy ) | 22:03 |
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| clarkb | basically you want python to coexist with javascript so you put things in the python package management system | 22:04 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes, I agree - it is one solution to this problem space | 22:04 |
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| mordred | I'd love it if pbr presented a better solution, should we find that one is possible | 22:04 |
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| mordred | it's possible that getting in to it it will turn out that EFAIL | 22:04 |
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| lifeless | we might want a dedicated thing which pbr can call into | 22:05 |
| lifeless | I know there is some care needed to do that | 22:05 |
| fungi | we should find a way to compile python code into javascript | 22:05 |
| lifeless | but I think we're approximately there now | 22:05 |
| lifeless | fungi: that already exists | 22:05 |
| mordred | lifeless: I might agree with you - could you restate those words though? | 22:05 |
| lifeless | mordred: some classes of 'js from python' will look like tooling that builds packages from js | 22:05 |
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| lifeless | mordred: that might want to be its own dedicated thing | 22:06 |
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| mordred | yah. I think the current working theory is that that dedicated thing is called bower | 22:06 |
| mordred | and this would be about teaching pbr to call it | 22:06 |
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| lifeless | indeed | 22:07 |
| mordred | potentially triggered off of the existence of a bower.json file ... but now I'm getting ahead of myself | 22:07 |
| clarkb | mordred: so I think my concern there is you have only described one end of the problem | 22:07 |
| clarkb | the make sdist end | 22:07 |
| mordred | I think clarkb's questions are all good ones | 22:07 |
| clarkb | there is the other end which is take sdist and make thing that is useable by humans | 22:07 |
| lifeless | so my larger point is to say that for the pure build-time things, if its non-trivial, having a single focused project may be good | 22:07 |
| mordred | clarkb: yup. needs to be answered | 22:07 |
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| anteaya | tristanC: are you around to help maishsk? | 22:08 |
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| pleia2 | anteaya: it's not clear to me exactly what the problem is | 22:09 |
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| pleia2 | we don't have any elections happening right now | 22:09 |
| anteaya | pleia2: he didn't recieve the email with the parent post for the tc question posed to all candidates | 22:09 |
| anteaya | so it isn't offically an election official duty | 22:09 |
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| anteaya | but he needs someone to forward him the parent email so he can reply to the thread | 22:10 |
| anteaya | since he is a candidate | 22:10 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: there was no questions email | 22:10 |
| pleia2 | we didn't do one this time around | 22:10 |
| anteaya | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062427.html | 22:10 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: someone in the community posed a question to all candidates | 22:10 |
| pleia2 | oh, that's not one we sent | 22:10 |
| anteaya | he would like to reply | 22:10 |
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| anteaya | no it isn't | 22:10 |
| pleia2 | there's nothing I can do about that, fungi already looked at mailing list archives and said there weren't bounces | 22:11 |
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| anteaya | it is from the community | 22:11 |
| pleia2 | s/archives/logs | 22:11 |
| anteaya | pleia2: can you forward the email to him from your account | 22:11 |
| anteaya | I was going to but I am a candidate | 22:11 |
| anteaya | it would look funny | 22:11 |
| pleia2 | he could just copy it from the archives | 22:11 |
| pleia2 | me forwarding it breaks threading anyway, so there's no difference | 22:11 |
| anteaya | he could do that yes | 22:11 |
| anteaya | okay | 22:11 |
| anteaya | he is offline now I have pointed him to you since he had another question anyway which is best if an election official answers it | 22:12 |
| anteaya | hopefully he will find you tomorrow | 22:12 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I'll be around tomorrow | 22:12 |
| anteaya | okay thanks | 22:12 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, mordred: dogpile does not have an in-dict cache that does actual LRU. But then again no python lib really does that. even our bad memorycache one from oslo doesn't do LRU it just scans the dict for expires values and does an expensive delete every get/set. dogpile doesn't do that latter part so the dict endlessly grows. in-memory cache in python is an ugly thing to deal with. things that do proper LRU are better but | 22:12 |
| morganfainberg | usually overkill | 22:12 |
| morganfainberg | when in-memory/in-process is what you're looking for | 22:13 |
| harlowja | morganfainberg ya, i talked with zzzeek and he was fine with adding a LRUCache into dogpile as a backend, if we want | 22:13 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, yeah, the issue is the mechanism to do LRU. it's just expensive in pure python. | 22:13 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/tkem/cachetools/blob/master/cachetools/lru.py#L17 is probably better than periodic scan crap | 22:14 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, doing a simple scan/delete is also expensive. | 22:14 |
| harlowja | yup | 22:14 |
| morganfainberg | similar to the weakref model i did | 22:14 |
| morganfainberg | i did a weakref with buckets | 22:14 |
| morganfainberg | and would expire whole buckets and let weakref do magic | 22:14 |
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| harlowja | cool | 22:14 |
| morganfainberg | but it's highly complex code and open to lots of errors | 22:14 |
| harlowja | sounds like good stuff | 22:15 |
| morganfainberg | you know the saying: i have 1 problem, lets add caching, I now have 2 problems | 22:15 |
| morganfainberg | ;) | 22:15 |
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| mordred | morganfainberg: so - in general is seems that were someone to add an LRU cache, using an existing library focused on taht would be the way to do | 22:15 |
| mordred | go | 22:15 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: why is it expensive? | 22:15 |
| tristanC | anteaya: sure, what's going on ? | 22:15 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, because of the scan/look for values to expire. | 22:15 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: [I ask having written multiple implementations of efficent, scaled,python LRU caches | 22:15 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, most of the implementations are expensive. | 22:15 |
| harlowja | sounds sorta like impls that shouldn't do that :) | 22:16 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: ordered dict FTW :) | 22:16 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: [or similar] | 22:16 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: should also be a linear scan to evict, not a full pass | 22:16 |
| lifeless | s/also/always/ | 22:16 |
| anteaya | tristanC: sorry I explained it to pleia2 | 22:16 |
| anteaya | tristanC: the post to teh ml http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062427.html | 22:17 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, true. but in general most of the times you need real caching with LRU, in-process isn't what you want. you want a shared cache across process. | 22:17 |
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| anteaya | tristanC: didn't reach all candidates | 22:17 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, and in the smal small scale, it doesn't really matter if it's a full scan or not | 22:17 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless: just experience though. | 22:17 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: strictly speaking, I'm not sure it's appropriate for tristanC or me to forward it either, since it's not part of the official process | 22:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | jeblair: ping | 22:17 |
| anteaya | tristanC: so pleia2 is suggesting the candidate that didn't get the post can copy from the archives | 22:17 |
| thingee | fungi: I had to reup...missed a file https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176996/ | 22:17 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: sure; so an IPC based interface? | 22:17 |
| anteaya | pleia2: yeah, no idea here, this is new | 22:18 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: its one step further to be putting it in mysql... | 22:18 |
| anteaya | pleia2: so it is whatever the two of you decide | 22:18 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless: memcache, redis, etc - simple interfaces, fast servers, and they're optimised on the backend to LRU things sanely | 22:18 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: yup | 22:18 |
| pleia2 | anteaya, tristanC: I think he should just copy it from the archives if he wants to reply, that's how people usually do it if they miss an email | 22:18 |
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| lifeless | morganfainberg: I'm not dissing them. I thought the context here was in-memory though | 22:18 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless: so i go back to "python may be the wrong choice" :) | 22:18 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless: right. | 22:18 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless: pure-python-in-process that is* | 22:19 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja: i wouldn't be opposed to better cache backend for dogpile | 22:19 |
| harlowja | sure, i'll get something up someday | 22:19 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja: for in-memory [especially if it means memorycache in oslo incubator dies a horrive death] | 22:19 |
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| tristanC | pleia2: well the problem is that the archive doesn't display the message-id and therefor you can't properly reply out of it only | 22:20 |
| pleia2 | tristanC: forwarding alters it as well | 22:20 |
| tristanC | though I'm not sure election official are responsible of the mailing list not working properly... it's another reason to work toward a better election tooling :) | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | and you can only really edit it anyway if you're using a client like mutt | 22:21 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless: would you weakref with the ordereddict to truely get a LRU or just plop things again on the end and use references? | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | I'm also not sure election officials are responsible for making sure everyone gets every email forwarded to them by members of the community | 22:21 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless: my brain is tired of fighting with concur :P this is a nice diversion | 22:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Fix swapiness sysctl set https://review.openstack.org/177006 | 22:22 |
| pleia2 | Chris could have come to us to suggest the questions and do his email so we could incorporate it into our process, but he didn't | 22:22 |
| * ianw ^ will set "-e" on the gate scripts and see what happens... | 22:22 | |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: value = cache.pop(key, sentinel); if value is not sentinel: cache[key] = value | 22:23 |
| clarkb | tristanC: ftr as far as we can tell the mail list did work properly | 22:23 |
| clarkb | tristanC: if there was an issue it was client side | 22:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-oslo.db-python34 voting https://review.openstack.org/177007 | 22:23 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: concur can sap ones will to live | 22:24 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless: it does.... it really really does | 22:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add -e to gate wrap script https://review.openstack.org/177017 | 22:26 |
| tristanC | clarkb: ok, thanks for checking that, it's surely a client side issue that we can't really do much about it I guess | 22:27 |
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| dstufft | mordred: clarkb warehouse packages up js files into the sdist, but it just uses package_data and a static view to serve them *shrug* | 22:28 |
| clarkb | dstufft: so the python application serves them? | 22:28 |
| dstufft | clarkb: yea | 22:28 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah - there are plenty of cases of python apps wanting to be able to do something like that | 22:29 |
| dstufft | in my case I just commit the js into the repo because I'm lazy and that's easy, but i've wanted to make it part of the sdist creation process | 22:30 |
| mordred | dstufft: well, I know I won't suck you into the evils of pbr - but maybe krotscheck's stuff can be re-usable by you and stuff | 22:31 |
| timrc-bar | I would not want to share a name with a notoriously crappy beer. | 22:32 |
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| clarkb | hipsters across portland are now mad at you | 22:33 |
| clarkb | but its ok we also have notoriously good beer here | 22:33 |
| clarkb | fungi: speaking of breakside has a seasonal doule ipa that is really good | 22:33 |
| mordred | clarkb: s/across portland// | 22:33 |
| dstufft | morganfainberg: I think the stdlib has a real lru_cache btw ..., it's a decorator for a function though not a LRUCache dict | 22:34 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, hm. yeah that doesn't work with most of the sutff | 22:35 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, a lot of cases there is a lot of extra logic needed for the memoization. | 22:35 |
| timrc-bar | Well I live in Texas so PBR is professional bull riding. Not sure that is much better | 22:35 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, but good to know i'll hceck out what it's doing. | 22:35 |
| dstufft | OrderedDict should be able to do it though if you override __getitem__ to pop and reinsert | 22:35 |
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| dstufft | since OrderedDict maintains insertion order into the dict | 22:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Boris Pavlovic proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add coverage job to cue check pipeline https://review.openstack.org/177022 | 22:37 |
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| fungi | clarkb: oh! must try | 22:46 |
| pleia2 | which season? :) | 22:46 |
| clarkb | pleia2: fungi this season, unsure if it will be around in july | 22:46 |
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| clarkb | but all their beers are excellent so no loss if so | 22:47 |
| clarkb | notmyname: can I interest you in looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168673/ | 22:47 |
| fungi | indeed. what little i do recall having of theirs was excellent regardless | 22:47 |
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| clarkb | http://www.breakside.com/beer/india-golden-ale/ looks like it will be gone by june | 22:48 |
| fungi | replaced by something equally delicious, no doubt | 22:49 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: I've got it starred as a priority review | 22:53 |
| notmyname | if I get a chance, I'll look. otherwise, I'll defer to other cores (who can see it too) | 22:53 |
| notmyname | clarkb: it's reasonable to get it this week I think | 22:54 |
| clarkb | thanks | 22:54 |
| clarkb | its one of the random things that will make our use of swiftclient for image uploads better | 22:54 |
| clarkb | zaro: did you see the latest on the gerrit 2.10.3 ssh problems thread | 22:54 |
| clarkb | zaro: seems that it may be related to the client and not sshd update | 22:54 |
| clarkb | so for us it may be best to try and reproduce and if we can't then our clients are probbly fine | 22:55 |
| clarkb | I need to go run some errands before the butcher closes | 22:56 |
| fungi | clarkb: though odd that a misbehaving client could cause the webui to become unresponsive | 22:59 |
| fungi | that sounds like an exploitable condition if so | 23:00 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 23:02 |
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| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 23:04 |
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| clarkb | fungi ya | 23:04 |
| jhesketh | o/ | 23:04 |
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| reed | pleia2, are you collecting the candidacy to TC outside of the mailing list archives too? in other words, is there a page where voters can go and see the full list with their candidacy message, too? | 23:09 |
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| pleia2 | reed: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TC_Elections_April_2015 | 23:09 |
| pleia2 | bottom of the page has confirmed candidates | 23:09 |
| reed | pleia2, lovely, thanks | 23:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Make default email mandatory https://review.openstack.org/176394 | 23:09 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: mordred: done. sam just approved it | 23:13 |
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| timrc | Nice to see nodepool is still chugging along on hpcloud. | 23:14 |
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| timrc | mordred, I imagine you talked to the right people in public cloud to make this happen. Who do we send flowers to? | 23:16 |
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| mordred | notmyname: woot! thanks | 23:19 |
| mordred | notmyname: I think that's the first patch that an infra-patch had a depends-on on :) | 23:19 |
| mordred | gah | 23:19 |
| mordred | notmyname: I think that's the first swift patch that an infra-patch had a depends-on on :) | 23:19 |
| notmyname | mordred: all I did was mention it. clayg and torgomatic did it ;-) | 23:19 |
| mordred | timrc: well, actually, _you_ should get the flowers | 23:20 |
| mordred | timrc: because ultimately I believe it was the impact the problem was having on gozer that was the ultimate catalyst | 23:20 |
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| mordred | timrc: so, you know, thanks! | 23:20 |
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| timrc | mordred, So if we can translate degraded cloud services to lost "story points", business people become motivated to do something about it. | 23:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: How To Avoid Merging Specific Files https://review.openstack.org/177034 | 23:24 |
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| mordred | timrc: yah man | 23:25 |
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| dguerri | just a WiP ^^^ disregard :) | 23:37 |
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