| jeblair | ianw: so "devstack/debs" etc? | 00:00 |
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| ianw | jeblair: devstack/files/{debs|rpms} | 00:01 |
| jeblair | ianw: and 'debs' or 'rpms' is a file, not a directory? | 00:02 |
| adam_g | devstack/files/{debs|rpms/$plugin_name | 00:02 |
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| jeblair | so that means $servicepluginrepo/devstack/files/debs == $devstackrepo/files/debs/$service | 00:03 |
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| tchaypo | zaro: I remember you, I just didn’t know you as zaro :) | 00:03 |
| adam_g | jeblair, $serviceplugin/devstack/files/debs/$serviceplugin | 00:03 |
| clarkb | jeblair: 138959 may interest you | 00:03 |
| jeblair | adam_g, ianw: ok thx. | 00:03 |
| tchaypo | zaro: and your whois only tells me that your real name is “ubuntu” ;) | 00:03 |
| tchaypo | jeblair: We could argue that the tomatoes should be directed at the authors of requests | 00:04 |
| jeblair | tchaypo: i think it's urllib3 that ended up doing this... | 00:04 |
| tchaypo | but that’s not going to matter much when we’re covered in rotten fruit | 00:04 |
| jeblair | clarkb: what am i looking at? | 00:04 |
| tchaypo | jeblair: but requests make it so hard to tell, with their clever use of vendoring | 00:05 |
| clarkb | jeblair: sorry 138595 | 00:05 |
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| tchaypo | okay, so the consensus is that we go with a lowest-common-denominator patch that hides the problem | 00:05 |
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| tchaypo | I’d still like to be able to fix it on my system. Would we be okay with a note in the docs that mentions that “If you have an older version of py2, you may see this warning in the logs, here’s how to upgrade your system to fix the underlying problem”? | 00:06 |
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| clarkb | tchaypo: all you need to fix the problem is pip install requests[security] so documenting that should be fine | 00:06 |
| fungi | apparently turning off git-review's rebase detection is still gaining traction in neutron https://review.openstack.org/140863 | 00:06 |
| clarkb | tchaypo: but I don't want to get into how to install dev headers on ubuntu/osx/fedora/etal | 00:07 |
| clarkb | fungi: I have no idea why they still insist they need that | 00:07 |
| clarkb | I have explained it to them and tested things to make sure git-review is actually working and asked for specific cases where it does not work and its fine | 00:07 |
| clarkb | it just works | 00:07 |
| tchaypo | fungi: wtf | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Your Gerrit and Launchpad username can differ https://review.openstack.org/165507 | 00:07 |
| fungi | clarkb: but, but, things | 00:07 |
| fungi | baseless infra-is-a-black-box-let's-throw-this-switch-anyway arguments | 00:08 |
| clarkb | so if neutron is listening and is still interested in debugging that I am still happy to help | 00:08 |
| clarkb | specific cases of git review rebasing when it should not have would be nice | 00:08 |
| clarkb | along with the git review version that failed | 00:08 |
| fungi | looks like assaf muller commented with claims that it's not working as described for him | 00:10 |
| fungi | "when I simply 'git review' it fetches newest master and automatically rebases whatever local branch I'm on the updated master" | 00:11 |
| clarkb | that is true | 00:12 |
| clarkb | but it should then git reset back to your old state if that rebase is successful | 00:12 |
| fungi | yep | 00:12 |
| clarkb | I think ^ is where much of the confusion is coming from | 00:12 |
| jeblair | ianw, adam_g: when you have a sec, can you give 167047 a quick look and see if that roughly matches what you'd expect? | 00:13 |
| clarkb | the other example involves a cherry pick which means all bets are off you lose go straight to jail do not collect $200 | 00:13 |
| jeblair | ianw, adam_g: obviously, still more work to be done in removing that from devstack and getting it tested in sequence, etc. | 00:13 |
| clarkb | and the snark in that comment means I should just ignore it | 00:13 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: are either of you going to leave a comment on that? | 00:15 |
| fungi | i just finished replying | 00:15 |
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| adam_g | jeblair, yah, looks about right. ive been slowly starting to migrate the ironic devstack code out, as well | 00:15 |
| clarkb | yes I am leaving one too to directly address the scenario described | 00:16 |
| jeblair | ok cool | 00:16 |
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| fungi | i needed to reply anyway because i had mistyped my comment back in december and said -R when i meant -F | 00:16 |
| fungi | which probably contributed to some of the confusion | 00:17 |
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| clarkb | commented to address the scenario where git review may have not done the correct thing. asked for more infos | 00:18 |
| clarkb | and pointed out that git pull will fast forward or rebase depending on your settings and cherry pick will always result in a new sha1 | 00:19 |
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| jeblair | tchaypo: why did you upload a new PS to 163979? | 00:20 |
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| jeblair | oh, you rebased | 00:21 |
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| clarkb | jhesketh: for 141260 isn't os-loganalyze already doing that? | 00:22 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: oh wait, I see this is an optimization to flip around the logic | 00:22 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: yep | 00:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gertty: Right align line numbers https://review.openstack.org/163979 | 00:23 |
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| clarkb | ok I am just about to call it a day so will put that on the early morning review list tomorro | 00:23 |
| jeblair | tchaypo: it messed up my stack and i have to rebase them all now :) | 00:26 |
| tchaypo | ah, poo. | 00:26 |
| jeblair | tchaypo: probably best to check with patch authors before you change their dependencies :) | 00:26 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Display warnings as a popup https://review.openstack.org/165447 | 00:26 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Handle change id in simple searches https://review.openstack.org/164375 | 00:26 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Highlight starred changes in list https://review.openstack.org/166572 | 00:26 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Do not display InsecurePlatformWarning https://review.openstack.org/165448 | 00:26 |
| clarkb | fungi: any reason to not approve 166404 given the tox thing? | 00:27 |
| tchaypo | I guess it would have been better to land 163979, then rebase the one with the conflict on top of the new master? | 00:27 |
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| clarkb | tchaypo: that is how I prefer to do things | 00:27 |
| clarkb | unless its urgent then we can smash the dep list | 00:27 |
| openstackgerrit | James Polley proposed stackforge/gertty: Minor typo - may -> many https://review.openstack.org/167054 | 00:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gertty: Handle change id in simple searches https://review.openstack.org/164375 | 00:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gertty: Display warnings as a popup https://review.openstack.org/165447 | 00:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gertty: Do not display InsecurePlatformWarning https://review.openstack.org/165448 | 00:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gertty: Minor typo - may -> many https://review.openstack.org/167054 | 00:29 |
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| fungi | clarkb: nah, either we want to pin it everywhere for consistency or nowhere. given it seems to be fixed again, and quickly this time, i'm in favor of no pins | 00:29 |
| clarkb | ok I will approve that change now | 00:30 |
| jeblair | tchaypo: 1 minute 25 seconds from prop to merge :) | 00:30 |
| tchaypo | mwahahaha | 00:30 |
| tchaypo | I’d feel more proud of that if it was more than a single-character doc-only change :) | 00:30 |
| fungi | clarkb: and it seems that code wasn't really pinning it anywhere effectively anyway because we pre-install it | 00:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: thats the preinstall code | 00:30 |
| fungi | or at least it's getting pulled in somwhere else | 00:31 |
| clarkb | fungi: and tox uses that version | 00:31 |
| clarkb | fungi: its virtualenv not tox | 00:31 |
| clarkb | but tox depends on virtualenv | 00:31 |
| fungi | oh, wait, that's vierualenv, not tox | 00:31 |
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| clarkb | ya | 00:31 |
| fungi | but yeah, seems like a fine cleanup | 00:31 |
| fungi | i'll be around when the image updates complete tomorrow and can pull out the fire extinguisher if needed | 00:32 |
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| tchaypo | is tox -edocs (in gertty) broken for everyone or just me? | 00:37 |
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| greghaynes | Ng: mordred Hey, so im running into 413 overlimit erorrs when glance uploading to rax, youall run into this before? | 00:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Always try to use the latest virtualenv https://review.openstack.org/166404 | 00:40 |
| jeblair | tchaypo: i don't think gertty has docs. or support for any other tox target | 00:41 |
| openstackgerrit | James Polley proposed stackforge/gertty: Document fix for InsecurePlatformWarning https://review.openstack.org/167058 | 00:42 |
| tchaypo | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/gertty/tree/tox.ini#n23 | 00:42 |
| jeblair | tchaypo: yeah, that's just overzealous boilerplating | 00:42 |
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| jeblair | tchaypo: so part of why i decided to hide the warning is that i don't think it's gertty's responsibility to address underlying platform issues | 00:43 |
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| jeblair | tchaypo: doesn't the warning itself link to a page describing how to fix it? isn't that enough? | 00:44 |
| jeblair | sorry, i have to run now | 00:44 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: I have not - it's possible you might need to request a quota bump? | 00:53 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: infra has ... let's just call it a very large quota | 00:53 |
| mordred | greghaynes: I apologize that I do not have more better thoughts | 00:54 |
| clarkb | mordred can we bring up using hpcloud west soon? | 00:54 |
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| clarkb | it would effectively double our api rate | 00:54 |
| clarkb | without causing disaster | 00:54 |
| mordred | clarkb: honestly haven't brought that up yet - but I've put an agenda item on a staff meeting for tomorrow | 00:54 |
| mordred | to talk about our public cloud stuffs - so I'll bring that up too | 00:55 |
| clarkb | thanks | 00:56 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: hrm, ok, filed ticket since that was the first request within 24hr | 01:04 |
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| mordred | hrm. that does seem strange | 01:05 |
| tchaypo | jeblair: The warning links to a page in the urllib3 docs, which clarkb based his patch on - but as fungi points out, those instructions are suboptimal if you’re consuming urllib3 via requests | 01:09 |
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| tchaypo | requests provides a better mechanism, that encompasses the urllib3 changes now, but in future will probably also include other security-related extra enhancements | 01:09 |
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| fungi | would be nice if requests could catch that exception and then rethrow it with extra context-specific suggestions, but that may not be possible if you're just calling the vendored urllib3 in it | 01:11 |
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| fungi | nova sagittarii 2015 no. 2... sounds like a great name for a band | 01:12 |
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| timrc | clarkb, Thanks for the feedback. | 01:24 |
| anteaya | zaro: thanks I found it with a little guidance from fungi, I rarely work with branches so didn't know where to look, thanks | 01:26 |
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| jeblair | tchaypo: that's a good point; but i still think i don't want to confront gertty users with this. essentially, i think that the urllib3 authors are engaged in a proxy war with distros, and i do not wish to be drafted in as a pawn. | 01:33 |
| jeblair | tchaypo: if there's a link with instructions on how to do the "requests[security]" thing, i would consider emitting that information to the log right after the insecureplatformwarning as a compromise | 01:34 |
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| jeblair | tchaypo: but i don't want to try to be authoritative documentation on this | 01:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/ansible-puppet: Copy in matching hiera files https://review.openstack.org/165157 | 03:11 |
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| mordred | StevenK: I'd love to use it in the proposal salve | 03:23 |
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| mordred | :) | 03:26 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: clarkb mentions that you had to force v2 glance api somewhere to get rax to work? | 04:29 |
| greghaynes | curious if you have that incantation handy | 04:29 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: I think I got it... I feel bad for our users | 05:02 |
| greghaynes | mordred: You have to uplod the image to swift, create a glance task by passing in json to task-create arg, then it all works | 05:03 |
| StevenK | Having been in earshot for a number of mordred's glance v1 versus v2 rants, I feel bad as well | 05:04 |
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| mattt | is there an issue w/ HP nodes in the gate? | 09:01 |
| mattt | we're seeing memcache failing to install but it appears to only happen when we get an HP image | 09:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-kibana: Update kibana project url https://review.openstack.org/162727 | 09:08 |
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| ajo | I'm getting lots of 503 errors from gerrit: The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. | 10:04 |
| ajo | for the last 2-3 days | 10:04 |
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| ihrachyshka | . | 10:05 |
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| ajo | http://www.fpaste.org/201965/14271915/ | 10:06 |
| ajo | the gerrit 503 errors ^ | 10:06 |
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| samueldmq | morning | 10:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/requirements: add what-broke.py analayzer https://review.openstack.org/166997 | 11:06 |
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| mordred | sdague: definitely need more things called "what-broke" :) | 11:10 |
| sdague | :) | 11:11 |
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| mordred | mattt: that does not sound pleasing - do you happen to have a link? | 11:11 |
| sdague | it seemed like an appropriate mantra for that particular tool | 11:11 |
| mordred | ajo: that's the old gerrit server - it sounds like you have stale dns | 11:12 |
| mordred | review.openstack.org has address 104.130.159.134 | 11:12 |
| mordred | review.openstack.org has IPv6 address 2001:4800:7818:102:be76:4eff:fe05:9b12 | 11:12 |
| mordred | ajo: ^^ those should be the DNS values you want | 11:13 |
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| ajo | hmmm, thanks mordred | 11:13 |
| ajo | may be TTL was too high? | 11:13 |
| ajo | review.openstack.org.267INAAAA2001:4800:7818:102:be76:4eff:fe05:9b12 | 11:14 |
| ajo | review.openstack.org.265INA104.130.159.134 | 11:14 |
| ajo | this is what I get here, seems fine | 11:15 |
| ajo | I must say I'm going through IPv6 | 11:15 |
| ajo | next time it fails I will force IPv4 to see if there's any difference | 11:15 |
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| mattt | mordred: it may have been transient, i'll let you know if i see it again! | 11:18 |
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| mordred | mattt: cool - please do | 11:18 |
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| mordred | ajo: hrm. ipv6 _should_ work | 11:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/requirements: add what-broke.py analayzer https://review.openstack.org/166997 | 12:18 |
| sdague | oh pep8 | 12:18 |
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| samueldmq | sdague, hmm, so this script will help to define whether the gate breaks due to new or update requirements | 12:26 |
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| sdague | samueldmq: well, it will give you the list of things which released recently | 12:26 |
| sdague | which is often the reason things break | 12:26 |
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| samueldmq | sdague, nice | 12:27 |
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| samueldmq | sdague, haha I love that story at the beginning :) | 12:28 |
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| ajo | mordred: | 12:41 |
| ajo | mba:~ ajo$ ping review.openstack.org | 12:41 |
| ajo | PING review.openstack.org (23.253.232.87): 56 data bytes | 12:41 |
| ajo | I believe is red-hat's DNS via our VPN... | 12:41 |
| ajo | afazekas, have you experienced this?, it should be resolving to something else | 12:42 |
| ajo | ipv6 seems right, btw: 2001:4800:7818:102:be76:4eff:fe05:9b12 | 12:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aleksey Ripinen proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Delete all user tokens method https://review.openstack.org/155759 | 12:47 |
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| ajo | mordred, ignore me... it was an entry in my /etc/hosts .... I wonder why it worked sometimes | 12:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Provider helper classes for plugin data management https://review.openstack.org/154316 | 12:56 |
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| mordred | ajo: awesome. glad it wasn't something broader :) | 12:58 |
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| ajo | mordred :-) I'm remembering now, that long long ago I had some IPv6 issue, and I forced the IPv4 resolution... ;) | 13:02 |
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| jordanP | hi guys | 13:04 |
| jordanP | I've sent an email on the ML 4 days ago : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059494.html "[third-party]Properly format the status message with gerrit trigger" | 13:05 |
| jordanP | i'd like you opinion on that | 13:05 |
| jordanP | I am concidering sending a patch to https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/gerrit.pp | 13:05 |
| jordanP | changing L164 | 13:05 |
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| jordanP | or adding a new regex in the commentlinks hash | 13:06 |
| jordanP | before going there i'd like your opinion | 13:06 |
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| mordred | jordanP: hi! I don't have much of an opinion on that myself - I think we'll need to wait for jeblair to awaken | 13:10 |
| jordanP | mordred, not even a tiny opinion ? :) | 13:10 |
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| mordred | jordanP: sorry :) | 13:11 |
| jordanP | i like myself gerrit triiger, easy to setup, integrates into jenkins with which i am familiar so no new system (zuul) to install and configure | 13:11 |
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| jordanP | i am in a small company for which running a 3rd party CI is an investment | 13:12 |
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| jordanP | so, but I am defending myself, I think is we could support gerrit trigger also, that would be great ! | 13:12 |
| jordanP | *if | 13:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move Gnocchi from Stackforge to OpenStack https://review.openstack.org/162146 | 13:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove some tests for Gnocchi https://review.openstack.org/164211 | 13:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move os-client-config from Stackforge to OpenStack https://review.openstack.org/167213 | 13:25 |
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| samueldmq | mordred, I am wondering why os-client-config is not called openstackclient-config, to be consistent with python-openstackclient | 13:30 |
| samueldmq | mordred, is that a limitation on pypi package names lenght? or do we have a rule to name things | 13:31 |
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| mordred | samueldmq: it wasn't written with openstackclient in mind originally | 13:32 |
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| samueldmq | mordred, ah ok | 13:32 |
| samueldmq | thanks | 13:32 |
| mordred | samueldmq: it was written just generally to solve a problem for ansible dynamic inventory, actually :) but then it turned out that it was a good fit for working with python-openstackclient | 13:32 |
| mordred | which was neat :) | 13:32 |
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| samueldmq | mordred, hmm, cool, maybe we should consinder to rename it later, since its on openstack namespace now :) | 13:34 |
| samueldmq | actually I got another question, regarding tests on system-config and project-config | 13:35 |
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| mordred | it's worth talking about for sure - I think the largest userbase for it will likely be using it via the shade library currently - so if we did a rename release, then had shade depend on the new name, we'd probably catch most people | 13:35 |
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| samueldmq | if I change a gate job for keystone (for instance) on project-config, how am I supposed to test it? | 13:35 |
| mordred | samueldmq: uhoh. you're going to ask a hard question now | 13:35 |
| samueldmq | mordred, ahah maybe | 13:35 |
| samueldmq | mordred, ^ | 13:36 |
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| mordred | samueldmq: you are supposed to ... well ... | 13:36 |
| mordred | samueldmq: there is currently no good story for that | 13:36 |
| samueldmq | mordred, can I test it locally? or just submitting to gerrit? | 13:36 |
| samueldmq | mordred, then tell me plz | 13:36 |
| mordred | samueldmq: if it's a new job that we're not sure about, we usually add it as an experimental job | 13:36 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq, you could create a new job and run it as experimental and once it works move it over to the gate and remove the other one | 13:36 |
| * mordred shuts up and lets AJaeger take over | 13:36 | |
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| AJaeger | mordred, go ahead! You're giving great advise ;) | 13:37 |
| StevenK | AJaeger: O HAI, I have reviews up for the zanata client. Not begging for a review, more wanting to ask where the translation script is, so I can look at teaching it about this zanata thing. | 13:37 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq, but sometimes it'S unfortunately trial and error ;( | 13:37 |
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| AJaeger | StevenK, in project-config repo, the files are in jenkins/scripts/ - look for the *translation* files. | 13:38 |
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| AJaeger | StevenK, Most of it is done in the common_translation_update.sh file. | 13:38 |
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| AJaeger | StevenK, great to hear about the progress! | 13:38 |
| AJaeger | If you have questions or want me to review something, feel free to email me directly (jaegerandi@gmail.com) | 13:39 |
| StevenK | AJaeger: I was going to poke at it, anyway. Not sure if I even know how to drive the damned client | 13:39 |
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| StevenK | AJaeger: This is also a clue to share my progress with the -infra meeting if anyone is curious | 13:39 |
| AJaeger | StevenK, you need to look at all the "tx" commands and add corresponding zanata commands. As a first step, let's get the push to zanata working | 13:40 |
| AJaeger | StevenK, for testing purposes, you can go to the e.g. nova repository and run upstream_translation_update.sh manually | 13:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Provider helper classes for plugin data management https://review.openstack.org/154316 | 13:41 |
| AJaeger | It should push everything to transifex and zanata if you have installs of the clients and your login is setup correctly | 13:41 |
| AJaeger | StevenK, if you test, disable the tx commands since you don't have transifex permissions | 13:41 |
| samueldmq | mordred, AJaeger hmm | 13:41 |
| samueldmq | the jobs for projects are at (https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml) right? | 13:42 |
| StevenK | AJaeger: Right, excellent, I have a place to start digging, and it doesn't end with me learning maven. | 13:42 |
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| AJaeger | StevenK, there's also a web page that explains the way we do the translation syncing, let me find it... | 13:43 |
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| AJaeger | StevenK, read https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations/Infrastructure | 13:44 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, the jobs for projects are at (https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml) right? | 13:44 |
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| StevenK | AJaeger: At this time of the morning, it's more like "squint at", but thanks for the link. | 13:45 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq, layout.yaml defines when to run a job - jenkins/jobs/* declares the jobs | 13:45 |
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| samueldmq | AJaeger, who deploy those jobs? | 13:46 |
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| AJaeger | samueldmq, read http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#running-jobs-with-zuul and http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html | 13:46 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq, we have puppet to deploy everything automatically | 13:46 |
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| samueldmq | AJaeger, yes, so if I want to add a new job, I create it locally, test and then add to project-config? | 13:47 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, my point is how to test changes in project-config locally :/ | 13:47 |
| samueldmq | thanks for those links | 13:47 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq, some things you cannot test locally. | 13:47 |
| AJaeger | You can test the scripts locally but with all the meta data around it, you would need to set up a complete CI for proper testing. | 13:48 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, yep, that's what I wanted to know | 13:48 |
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| samueldmq | AJaeger, exactly, and how is this testes? | 13:48 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, is there a CI job for CI test? | 13:48 |
| * AJaeger never setup a complete CI ;( | 13:48 | |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, or we just don't test it automatically ? | 13:49 |
| seeg | hello, could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167152/1 ? :) | 13:49 |
| AJaeger | WE do have some gate jobs that test that changes validate but we do not fully test a job | 13:49 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, ah ok, that's what I was talking about, thanks | 13:49 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq, for setting up your own CI, you need to ask others... | 13:50 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, I am still starting with infra .... still understanding how things work | 13:50 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, in fact I am just trying to understand things, to contribute | 13:50 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq, read the links I gave you - and start reviewing patches to learn how things are done | 13:50 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, yes I'll do, thanks | 13:50 |
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| AJaeger | For example look at 167152 to understand what needs to be done to add a new project with tests - as explained in the creators' guide | 13:51 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq, sorry, have to leave again now - it's afternoon and meeting time this side of the Atlantic ;). mordred back to you :) | 13:52 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, np thx | 13:52 |
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| fungi | samueldmq: actually, where reviewing is concerned, some of the best infra changes to review early on are documentation (infra-manual, publications, infra-specs, files in doc subdirectories of other repos like system-config) | 13:56 |
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| fungi | and it's an easy place to start making simple corrections while gaining exposure to what we have and how it all works | 13:57 |
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| claudiub | fungi: hello | 14:04 |
| fungi | what's up, claudiub? | 14:05 |
| claudiub | fungi: I was wondering if you could add me and alexpilotti to the stackforge/compute-hyperv core team. :) | 14:05 |
| claudiub | fungi: it was accepted a few days ago | 14:05 |
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| fungi | claudiub: do you have a link handy to the change review which added it? | 14:06 |
| claudiub | fungi: yep: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165611/ | 14:07 |
| NobodyCam | good morning -Infra | 14:07 |
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| NobodyCam | Hey hey fungi when you have a second, I just wanted to follow up and see if anythign came of the IronicWhiteBoard etherpad thing? | 14:09 |
| pabelanger | Morning, question about the puppet element for dibs. When does the prepare-node script actually get invoked during the dib process? Having trouble seeing how nodepool configures the jenkins username / ssh keys to connect into the image when it is first launched from the dib image | 14:09 |
| fungi | claudiub: since you were the originator of that change, i've added you as the initial member of those core and release groups. they're set as self-managed so you should be able to add alexpilotti now | 14:09 |
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| fungi | NobodyCam: made some progress. i'll get you a paste of what i think is probably the last known good state here shortly so you can confirm, then i'll see what i can do to un-break the current pad so you might get access to its history again | 14:10 |
| claudiub | fungi: ok, thanks a lot! :D | 14:10 |
| NobodyCam | fungi: awesome thank you | 14:10 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: this element calls it http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/nodepool/elements/puppet/install.d/05-puppet#n26 | 14:11 |
| fungi | pabelanger: is that what you're asking? | 14:12 |
| pabelanger | fungi, okay, so puppet is run from inside the chroot? | 14:12 |
| fungi | pabelanger: yes | 14:12 |
| pabelanger | fungi, perfect, that is what I was looking for | 14:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove resolved bugs https://review.openstack.org/167237 | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add os-testr repo https://review.openstack.org/167243 | 14:26 |
| BobBall | XenProject CI is on the third party CI mail filter list group in gerrit, which I thought should stop emails for every change that the CI has commented on - is that right? I'm still getting hundreds of emails a day | 14:26 |
| mtreinish | dhellmann: ^^^ | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove resolved bugs https://review.openstack.org/167237 | 14:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Functional test should not require a config file https://review.openstack.org/167248 | 14:33 |
| anteaya | BobBall: it should yes | 14:33 |
| anteaya | however we had a case reported by gothicmindfood two weeks ago that she was experiencing emails from ci's in the filtered group | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Stop mkdir output on each job write https://review.openstack.org/167250 | 14:34 |
| fungi | BobBall: are you perhaps receiving messages addressed _to_ the account? | 14:34 |
| anteaya | but we had nothing to follow up on | 14:34 |
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| BobBall | fungi: No; they are all CC'ed | 14:36 |
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| BobBall | e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166389/ when XenProject CI commented it got added as a reviewer and was CC'ed when Davanum +1'ed the change | 14:37 |
| fungi | BobBall: is it just that account you're seeing it from, or others in the https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/270,members list too? | 14:37 |
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| BobBall | My other 3rd party CI (Citrix XenServer CI) does not have an email address - I asked for that to be removed before the third party mail filter list was added | 14:37 |
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| fungi | BobBall: oh, you're saying comments addressed to the XenProject CI account, not e-mails sent with the content of review messages from the XenProject CI account | 14:38 |
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| clarkb | it doesnt stop you from receiving mail it stops you account from generating it | 14:38 |
| BobBall | Oh. Poo. | 14:38 |
| BobBall | There I was hoping that the filter would stop me receiving spam! | 14:38 |
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| fungi | yes, it protects other users from seeing messages containing the contents of comments from all the third-party ci accounts, it doesn't prevent the third-party ci accounts from receiving e-mail from gerrit | 14:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: zuul: drop notifications https://review.openstack.org/167254 | 14:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: zuul: drop notifications https://review.openstack.org/167254 | 14:41 |
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| mordred | Ng: btw - if you didn't see it - I made a kinda of massive discover/shift wrt the process-config-drive stuff | 14:45 |
| mordred | Ng: and uploaded a patch to dib itself as a result (tl;dr - took over the "dhcp-all-interfaces" element which already pretty much does what we want - except for the parts it doesn't do | 14:46 |
| mordred | Ng: https://review.openstack.org/167003 | 14:46 |
| BobBall | don't suppose there is a way to stop me receiving those emails from gerrit to the CI address? Is the only way still to have that address removed from the gerrit account? | 14:46 |
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| fungi | BobBall: either that or server-side filtering | 14:49 |
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| sslypushenko | fungi: smarcet: hogepodge: Hi! Here you can find Refstack workflow diagram https://docs.google.com/a/mirantis.com/drawings/d/1y76mYyFl-iOqH4OQYT27Xcyh9QSPatXkuSag4zdHr5w/edit | 14:50 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: have you tested uploading to rax with the vhd-util from your ppa? | 14:50 |
| greghaynes | mordred: im running into an issue where rax nodes are stuck in BUILD spawning state | 14:51 |
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| Ng | mordred: ah nice | 14:51 |
| BobBall | Understood. Thanks fungi. | 14:51 |
| fungi | sslypushenko: i assume "user creates rsa key pair" is just a convenience mechanism in the cli? | 14:52 |
| fungi | BobBall: ideally, a feature request to gerrit upstream for a "don't subscribe my account to changes i comment on" or even just a "don't ever send messages to my e-mail address except to perform account confirmation functions" but no idea how far that would get | 14:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: but then google won't be able to mine all your code diffs in gmail | 14:54 |
| mordred | greghaynes: did you do the metadata setting? | 14:54 |
| mordred | greghaynes: and no - I have not tested rax upload yet - was going to do that in a bit | 14:55 |
| greghaynes | ah! I did half of that | 14:55 |
| greghaynes | not the xenapi_use_agent | 14:55 |
| * greghaynes retried | 14:55 | |
| greghaynes | retries | 14:56 |
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| BobBall | vhd-util from ppa? I assume that's to convert to a XS suitable image? Was that generated from mate lakat's blog post? | 14:56 |
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| pabelanger | fungi, well, that didn't work as expected. I clearly had some path issues, cause puppet did my apply on my root nodepool os :) | 14:57 |
| greghaynes | theres a patch dug up from some mailing list that does some kind of needed magic | 14:57 |
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| pabelanger | might you I just hacked in something to run puppet | 14:58 |
| mordred | BobBall: yeah - I believe that was where I started | 14:58 |
| sslypushenko | fungi: Yes, I think that key pair is much more prefferable for CLI tools than OpenId | 14:58 |
| BobBall | Ah great. Just wanted to check that, if that's what it was, then it was sourced back to that-sort-of-thing. | 14:58 |
| mordred | yah - *waves hands wildly* | 14:58 |
| fungi | sslypushenko: i meant is the cli really creating that keypair or is it just calling out to some other tool/library which the user could also run on their own if they wanted? | 14:59 |
| mordred | greghaynes: yah - if you didn't set the xenapi_use_Agent, it will sit there hanging waiting for the agent to check in | 14:59 |
| clarkb | mordred: thats amazing | 14:59 |
| fungi | sslypushenko: e.g. is there anything special about the keypair created by the refstack client, or is it just a normal rsa keypair? | 14:59 |
| BobBall | Just FYI another approach is to use qemu-img convert but fix up the VHD's uuid with a different patch to vhd-util (qemu-img convert puts an all-zero UUID in, contrary to the vhd spec) | 14:59 |
| clarkb | BobBall: why can't we just haev a single tool that doesn't need any out of band patches that just works (tm)? | 14:59 |
| sslypushenko | I think refstack should support normal RSA keypairs | 15:00 |
| sslypushenko | fungi ^^ | 15:00 |
| mordred | BobBall: what clarkb said - but also, this approach, while gross, does seem to be working mostly | 15:00 |
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| BobBall | Fully agreed. Problem is Citrix hasn't added convert support to vhd-util because of various (some perhaps perceived?) risks. I think the one-tool-that-works approach is just to apply the upstream fix to qemu-img convert | 15:01 |
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| fungi | sslypushenko: thanks, i was merely confused by the diagram implying that the refstack cli had to be used to generate an rsa keypair | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: zuul: drop notifications https://review.openstack.org/167254 | 15:03 |
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| mestery | anteaya: Question on CI voting for you. Does the neutron-ci group give people the right to vote on neutron-lbaas, neutron-vpnaas, and neutron-fwaas as well? | 15:05 |
| mestery | anteaya: I added a CI as voting there, but they can only vote on neutron and not the *aaS repos | 15:05 |
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| sdake__ | hey folks, trying to push a signed tag as documented here https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/access-control.html#category_push_signed but I recall the actual procedure is different | 15:05 |
| sdake__ | and following the docs does not work correctly | 15:05 |
| clarkb | sdake__: which docs? | 15:06 |
| sdake__ | the ones i linked above | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | mestery: correct neutron-ci is for voting on neutron repo only | 15:06 |
| anteaya | mestery: do you need ci groups for the *aas repos? | 15:06 |
| mestery | anteaya: How do I enable CIs for the other ones? Link to the groups? Thanks! | 15:06 |
| sdake__ | clarkb https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/access-control.html#category_push_signed | 15:06 |
| fungi | sdake__: try http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#tagging-a-release | 15:06 |
| clarkb | that should work. if you use git-review you will likely have a gerrit remote so `git push gerrit v1.0.0` should also work | 15:06 |
| mestery | anteaya: Yes, we want them voting there too | 15:06 |
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| fungi | sdake__: what project? | 15:06 |
| mestery | anteaya: I can submit a patch which adds them if that is what is needed | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr: Add truncated lincense text https://review.openstack.org/165319 | 15:07 |
| fungi | sdake__: also what error message are you getting? | 15:07 |
| sdake__ | stackforge/kolla | 15:07 |
| sdake__ | [sdake@bigiron kolla]$ git push http://github.com/stackforge/kolla tag k3 | 15:07 |
| sdake__ | (gnome-ssh-askpass:16347): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: | 15:07 |
| sdake__ | error: unable to read askpass response from '/usr/libexec/openssh/gnome-ssh-askpass' | 15:07 |
| anteaya | well I'm wondering if with can expand the rights on that group, would the ci's in the neutron group be the same ones as the *aas group? | 15:07 |
| mestery | anteaya: For the most part, yes, and they may want to vote in both places | 15:08 |
| fungi | sdake__: sounds like you have a problem with askpass on that machine | 15:08 |
| sdake__ | git push gerrit k3 works thanks fungi :) | 15:08 |
| anteaya | mestery: well if we need more groups then yes, you submit patches to the acl files of the repos you want to have the -ci group, just copy the neutron acl as an example | 15:08 |
| clarkb | sdake__: you have to push to gerrit not github | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | mestery: right, I'm trying to see if we can use the current group | 15:08 |
| fungi | ahh, yep. i totally missed the url in that command | 15:08 |
| mestery | anteaya: Let me think about it and get back to you, thanks! | 15:08 |
| clarkb | sdake__: github is a read only mirror, the only account that writes to there is the one gerrit uses | 15:08 |
| sdake__ | clarkb ya makes sense, the first docs i linked don't mentioned that | 15:08 |
| sdake__ | clarkb yup I know | 15:08 |
| anteaya | mestery: rather than making more work for everyone, hey you could patch the acl files for the *aas repos and give permissions to the neutron-ci group | 15:09 |
| clarkb | sdake__: those are gerrit's upstream docs, I think they assume you will always be pushing to the gerrit host | 15:09 |
| mestery | anteaya: Ah, good idea! I'll do that now, thanks! | 15:09 |
| sdake__ | should just link that whole docs section to the infra manual imo :) | 15:09 |
| anteaya | mestery: great | 15:09 |
| sdake__ | thanks guys :) | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Allow the neutron-ci group to vote in the *aaS repos https://review.openstack.org/167264 | 15:12 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: sdague will you have time to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163506/ at some point? I'm not sure how that is controversial as a general thing and we should probably agree on a way to handle the general case there | 15:12 |
| mestery | anteaya: https://review.openstack.org/167264 | 15:13 |
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| sdague | clarkb: got to run errands now, maybe later | 15:17 |
| sdague | clarkb: if you have an answer for "how does sahara move to pylint 1.5" that would be great | 15:18 |
| sdague | because if one team is pinning that in g-r, they can't | 15:18 |
| sdague | without fixing another team's linter tests | 15:19 |
| clarkb | sdague: I don't think that is a thing we support | 15:19 |
| clarkb | sdague: we haven't with pep8 or pyflakes flake8 hacking | 15:19 |
| sdague | clarkb: we did that by putting it behind hacking | 15:19 |
| clarkb | no we didn't | 15:19 |
| clarkb | hacking pins pep8 and pyflakes for us | 15:19 |
| sdague | right | 15:19 |
| clarkb | so everyone gets the same version there | 15:20 |
| sdague | that's what I mean by "behind hacking" | 15:20 |
| clarkb | we don't allow sahara to use a different pep8 than nova | 15:20 |
| sdague | sure | 15:20 |
| clarkb | so I am not sure why that is a requirement here | 15:20 |
| sdague | but we have an interface layer here | 15:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | clarkb, sdague hey folks | 15:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | clarkb, sdague is sahara used as an example? | 15:20 |
| sdague | if that pin goes in, pylint will be fixed at the version for all time for all projects in openstack, because no one is taking the responsibility to move it forward | 15:21 |
| clarkb | SergeyLukjanov: not sure where sahara came from | 15:21 |
| sdague | because sahara actually has a pylint job | 15:21 |
| clarkb | I see | 15:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sdague, yeah, we have one | 15:21 |
| sdague | but does the sensible thing that nova did which is have it non voting | 15:22 |
| clarkb | sdague: that wasn't the case when we pinned pep8, it was bumped each cycle | 15:22 |
| clarkb | granted I am not sure anyone has volunteered to do it for pylint here | 15:22 |
| sdague | right, but we had people dedicated to that | 15:22 |
| sdague | which became the hacking project | 15:22 |
| sdague | same people | 15:22 |
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| sdague | this is a defensive block because no one wants to address incompatibilities | 15:23 |
| clarkb | sdague: sort of. This is a "how you do linters" rule | 15:23 |
| sdague | which is basically a forced vendoring of the lib for all of openstack | 15:23 |
| clarkb | infra has always said pin your linters | 15:23 |
| clarkb | and I told neutron they should do that with pylint | 15:23 |
| clarkb | you cannot gate on an unpinned linter | 15:23 |
| sdague | we've also said 'don't pin requirements' | 15:23 |
| clarkb | we have known this for years | 15:23 |
| clarkb | sdague: linters are different. They are a test only dep | 15:24 |
| clarkb | sdague: and they always add new rules that break on every release | 15:24 |
| clarkb | its a very known quantity | 15:24 |
| sdague | then we should stop enforcing g-r on these things, and let projects specify their own pins | 15:24 |
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| clarkb | the prolem with that is it is unfriendly to the dev | 15:24 |
| clarkb | without any consistency is really hard to keep track of all the silly rules you have to follow | 15:25 |
| sdague | why, it's running in tox? | 15:25 |
| sdague | every project has different ignores on flake8 today | 15:25 |
| sdague | and different rules | 15:25 |
| clarkb | ignores but not adds | 15:25 |
| sdague | and adds | 15:25 |
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| sdague | with in tree hacking support | 15:25 |
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| clarkb | oh right nova does that | 15:25 |
| sdague | not just nova | 15:25 |
| clarkb | I really wish we hadn't done that | 15:25 |
| sdague | it's used all over openstack | 15:25 |
| greghaynes | mordred: Something I notice is that after I do my glance task-create glance image-list doesnt show my image, based on your script it seems like the image shows for you? | 15:26 |
| sdague | why? it's extremely useful | 15:27 |
| clarkb | sdague: having the rules would be fine, but its handy as someone that often pushes patches all over to have a common set that isn't added to in each project | 15:27 |
| sdague | clarkb: it's why we have a common entry point of tox -e pep8 | 15:28 |
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| clarkb | I can always address the superset when writing code. But its frustrating to have tox explode on random rules added piecemeal around the larger project | 15:28 |
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| fungi | agreed. the workflow of "1. write code, 2. run linters to find out which nits this particular project cares about" is sort of unfriendly | 15:28 |
| sdague | maybe, they are tests | 15:28 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: and actually, nova image-list shows it so I think thats just a bug with your script | 15:29 |
| sdague | it feels like you are saying there should only be one set of tests for all of openstack, vs. project specific tests to catch known issues in projects | 15:29 |
| clarkb | sdague: there should be one set of linter tests | 15:29 |
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| sdague | this one lets a machine tell you the code will be rejected | 15:29 |
| fungi | just saying more consistency between reviewer expectations on different projects would be nice | 15:29 |
| sdague | instead of waiting for a human to reject you | 15:29 |
| anteaya | fungi: + | 15:29 |
| clarkb | sdague: you can then subtract from that as it makes sense, I don't mind that since I can always address the superset and still be fine | 15:30 |
| fungi | as reflected in the linter configurations between them | 15:30 |
| fungi | maybe the majority of devs don't encounter it because they only contribute to a handful of projects | 15:30 |
| jeblair | i can imagine there may be some need for a specific per-project test, like something that could only possibly apply to nova. but anything that can be cross-project should be in hacking or pep8. that is, after all, why hacking was written | 15:30 |
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| sdague | so we seem way off on a meta point now, unrelated to the original review | 15:31 |
| anteaya | I would go with the majority of devs contribute to one project | 15:31 |
| jeblair | there's a balance to be made; and i'm not certain we are out of balance, but we should keep an eye on that | 15:31 |
| anteaya | only a few contribute to more than one | 15:31 |
| jeblair | sdague: i agree, this isn't going to solve the pylint issue | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | to a large extent because projects are so different in their workflow | 15:32 |
| anteaya | it is hard for people who want to contribute to more than one to learn how | 15:32 |
| sdague | the original issue is that pylint is used by a handful of projects, however, unlike flake8 (via hacking) there is no group that is working to wrangle it across all of openstack | 15:32 |
| sdague | also pylint has historically had a pretty bad false possitive rate | 15:32 |
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| sdague | such that you can't just use pylint, you have to write a custom wrapper and filter out a ton of stuff | 15:33 |
| sdague | which makes it per project fragile. But without common effort, if we pin it in g-r, it's going to be pinned there for all time. | 15:33 |
| fungi | i sort of expect the pylint divergence to solve itself, mainly because projects will get tired of squashing its false positives and/or turning off more and more of it until it's providing zero benefit anyway | 15:33 |
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| clarkb | fungi: thats where pinning comes from | 15:34 |
| anteaya | fungi: that is the neutron experience | 15:34 |
| fungi | that was the nova experience to iirc | 15:34 |
| clarkb | projects are rediscovering that unpinned pylint breks them on each release. which is a thing that all linters have done | 15:34 |
| fungi | er, too | 15:34 |
| clarkb | because linters always add new rules that they enforce by default | 15:34 |
| jeblair | sdague: if the pin increases in g-r, won't projects that use it just need to straighten out their issues before merging their next requirement change? | 15:35 |
| sdague | clarkb: sure, but unless there is a group / effort that owns this at a global level, how do you address the frozen for all time issue? | 15:35 |
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| clarkb | sdague: you bump the pin every cycle like we do with hacking | 15:35 |
| jeblair | sdague: in otherwords, isn't this a distributed problem, where the work is distributed to projects that have opten into pylint testing? | 15:35 |
| clarkb | then individual projects address the failures either by ignoring rules or changing code | 15:35 |
| fungi | (r dropping pylint jobs) | 15:35 |
| sdague | jeblair: so, if nobody puts the effort into moving forward? | 15:35 |
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| sdague | then we're diverged like clarkb did not want us to be | 15:36 |
| clarkb | sdague: yes thats the pylint specific problem | 15:36 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: success! | 15:37 |
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| jeblair | sdague: but wouldn't we reconverge as projects were motivated to fix linting and update their requirements? | 15:38 |
| rameshg87 | hello all | 15:38 |
| sdague | jeblair: the only reason we reconverged on hacking is that we removed tools/hacking.py from people's projects | 15:38 |
| rameshg87 | i had a question on setting up 3rd party ci for ironic | 15:38 |
| rameshg87 | can we use logs.openstack.org for posting our results ? any pointers if so would help | 15:38 |
| sdague | and had the wrapper common, so less overhead, and bug fixes from central place | 15:39 |
| sdague | all these projects still have the equiv of tools/hacking.py in their tree for pylint | 15:39 |
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| sdague | so I don't think we'll get any convergence on this path | 15:39 |
| jeblair | sdague: i may not be following you. my understanding is the problem is that new releases come with new errors, and projects need to fix those errors when switching to the new release. this is true for pep8 as well, and we execute this process when hacking uprevs its dep on pep8 | 15:40 |
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| sdague | jeblair: so pylint is even gorpier than that. | 15:40 |
| jeblair | i think clarkb is saying we should do the same for pylint, except instead of pinning it via hacking, we pin it via g-r. but we still uprev it only at the start of cycles, and when we do so, individual projects need to clean up the gorp (one way or another) before they can accept the new requirement. | 15:41 |
| clarkb | jeblair: pretty much. Then maybe if this works well we can shove it in hacking or similar (I have not idea if that will actually happen but I don't want to kill it before it gets a chance) | 15:42 |
| jeblair | and yeah, i also think no one should use pylint, but this seems a close enough approximation of a process we've found to be workable with pep8 | 15:42 |
| fungi | rameshg87: we don't provide places for external organizations to post test results. you'd need to set up your own system to publish them, for example a web server | 15:42 |
| sdague | ok, so, I'd like to know who's signing up to own that? | 15:42 |
| sdague | because that seems to be missing | 15:43 |
| jeblair | sdague: any project that elects to use pylint | 15:43 |
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| dhellmann | if no one owns it and we just stay on the same version of pylint forever, is that bad? | 15:43 |
| jeblair | or do you mean own the start-of-cycle version bump? | 15:43 |
| sdague | jeblair: the start of cycle bump | 15:43 |
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| sdague | we have clear owners for that in the flake8 realm | 15:43 |
| rameshg87 | fungi: okay, just wanted to check .. thanks | 15:44 |
| clarkb | sdague: maybe thats the thing we should ask for in the review | 15:44 |
| clarkb | sdague: if no one steps up leave the -1s in place | 15:44 |
| sdague | ok, I'd be fine with that | 15:44 |
| clarkb | I can pull my +2 if that helps make the -1 need volunteer more apparent | 15:45 |
| sdague | anyway, I have to run and do errands, if someone wants to put that resolution into there | 15:45 |
| anteaya | thanks for discussing this | 15:45 |
| clarkb | ya I can do that | 15:45 |
| sdague | clarkb: thanks | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add os-testr repo https://review.openstack.org/167243 | 15:47 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: ^^^ if you get a sec, I'm sure I screwed something up :) | 15:48 |
| anteaya | ah humility | 15:48 |
| pleia2 | packing up to head out to puppetcampsf today, zanata update for meeting: | 15:48 |
| anteaya | it is a door opener every time for me | 15:48 |
| pleia2 | jeblair knows about the packing chat we had re: client, so he can talk about that if he wants | 15:48 |
| anteaya | pleia2: happpy packing | 15:48 |
| pleia2 | otherwise just continued reviews for the zanata topic branch in gerrit | 15:49 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: thanks, it's just a laptop bag, conference is a walk down the street :) | 15:49 |
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| anteaya | nice | 15:49 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: why do you need ci for this repo? | 15:51 |
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| bknudson | I'm looking to add a job to run tox -e bandit in keystone ... any tips? Maybe make it experimental to begin with... (I assume this means I can run "recheck experimental" to show it works) | 15:52 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: I don't, but ci people like to run on weird things :) (it's just a copy and paste mistake) | 15:52 |
| anteaya | ah perhaps pull it | 15:52 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: also I don't see the cla requirment and it is heading for the openstack/ namespace | 15:52 |
| jordanP | jeblair, hi. When you have a moment, I'd like your opinion on a ML thread I started 4 days ago : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059494.html | 15:53 |
| anteaya | my current position for reviewing is expecting openstack/ projects to require the cla | 15:53 |
| stevemar | bknudson, make it non-voting? | 15:53 |
| jordanP | I had a small conversation this morning with mordred who has no strong opinion on the subject | 15:53 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: jroll: it looks like revision 29050 out of 29063 is the last one before things went toes up http://paste.openstack.org/show/196032/ | 15:53 |
| clarkb | bknudson: yup thats how you would trigger it in the experimental pipeline. If you grep for 'envlist' in openstack-infra/project-config you should find examples of jobs that use our templated tox runner | 15:53 |
| bknudson | stevemar: I don't know if we want to start with experimental first? | 15:53 |
| zaro | morning | 15:53 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: jroll: if you can confirm, i'll try to roll the pad back to that rev | 15:53 |
| clarkb | bknudson: you can just use that templated tox running job and pass it your bandit env as the envlist | 15:54 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: oh, I didn't put it in there on purpose, because cla == yuck. But, I can add it back if that's a requirement for openstack/ | 15:54 |
| bknudson | clarkb: thanks, will do. | 15:54 |
| NobodyCam | fungi: awesome yeppers that looks like it | 15:54 |
| jeblair | jordanP: what are you trying to accomplish? | 15:54 |
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| jroll | fungi: seems legit, thanks <3 | 15:55 |
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| notmyname | jeblair: are the global requirements updates in? can I recheck my patch today? | 15:55 |
| jordanP | jeblair, setting up a 3rd party CI using gerrit trigger. So far everything work buth the comments my jenkins leave are not properly formatted in gerrit | 15:55 |
| clarkb | notmyname: I can check our image builds | 15:55 |
| notmyname | clarkb: thnaks | 15:55 |
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| jeblair | jordanP: the alterations we apply on reports require all of those pieces of information; you can't contstruct our 'pretty' version of the jobs without it | 15:56 |
| jordanP | jeblair, I can't change the way the gerrit trigger plugin for Jenkins format the output, it's burried deep inside java code. | 15:56 |
| clarkb | notmyname: looks like 2 hpcloud regions and one rax region do not have a new image for bare-trusty yet (where that requirements job should run) | 15:56 |
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| notmyname | ok | 15:56 |
| clarkb | notmyname: I will run some rebuildsthere, but we have 5 regions with new images so approximately 3:5 odds going on | 15:56 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: ok. can you let me know when there's a good chance of it going through? | 15:57 |
| mordred | greghaynes: w00t! | 15:57 |
| clarkb | notmyname: yup | 15:57 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: I consider it to be yes | 15:57 |
| greghaynes | mordred: Yep, left some comments on your patch - basically the glance image manipulation commands dont work for me, have to use nova | 15:57 |
| mordred | greghaynes: after glance task-create , glance task-show should show you the status of the image | 15:58 |
| jordanP | jeblair, I disagree. We need the job name, a link and the failure|sucess. gerrit trigger provides everything but not in the order/format we are currently expecting | 15:58 |
| mordred | and then it'll give you a different uuid in its properties | 15:58 |
| jeblair | jordanP: where is the job name? | 15:58 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: ok will do | 15:58 |
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| jordanP | jeblair, in the url | 15:58 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: thank you | 15:58 |
| mordred | which is what you feed to glance for image-show/image-list | 15:58 |
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| jeblair | jordanP: right, so that's a bit of a special case isn't it? | 15:58 |
| jordanP | it's always the last part of the url | 15:58 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: BUT - if it works for you, we can sort that all out later :) | 15:59 |
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| jordanP | jeblair, it's not a special case. I believe gerrit trigger is a well used plugin. It's easy to setup and operate | 15:59 |
| jeblair | jordanP: your system can vote, and it can leave comments on the change which will be displayed if people click the toggle ci button | 15:59 |
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| jordanP | jeblair, it would lower the requirements for 3rd party cy | 15:59 |
| lucasagomes | hi, if you have a time mind taking a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163344/ ? It's adding a job (non-voting) on the openstack/ironic-python-agent project to test the IPA ramdisk deploying images with PXE drivers. Thanks | 15:59 |
| greghaynes | mordred: yes, that part works, the issue is the image never shows in glance image-list for some reason, it does howerver show in nova image-list. In your patch I noticed youre doing some grepping on glance image-list | 15:59 |
| jordanP | jeblair, exclaty. But people have to click the button know.. needless to say, no one do that... | 15:59 |
| Somay | clarkb: Please review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163137/ . There were some doc changes that were suggested | 16:00 |
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| jordanP | jeblair, my system can't vote. 3rd party ci are not allowed to vote yet in Cinder | 16:00 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: the glance task-show does give me the new uuid though | 16:00 |
| anteaya | I've had 3 meetings in the last 8 hours and need to get a walk in before the next round begins | 16:00 |
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| anteaya | back later | 16:00 |
| jeblair | jordanP: we've done a lot of work to make that look nicer for the system that we use. and we've done a lot of work to make that system usable by other people. | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Experimental bandit job for keystone https://review.openstack.org/157595 | 16:01 |
| jordanP | jeblair, yet it's not simple. Just look at the recent threads about drivers kicked out of cinder | 16:01 |
| jeblair | jordanP: i think if you want the enhanced experience, you should use the format we've developed. | 16:01 |
| mordred | greghaynes: wow | 16:01 |
| jordanP | jeblair, it's burried deep inside java code. i can't do that forking gerrit trigger | 16:01 |
| mordred | greghaynes: does it show now/ | 16:01 |
| jordanP | *without | 16:02 |
| mordred | or is it still not there/ | 16:02 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: also - does glance image-list show anything for you at all? | 16:02 |
| fungi | jordanP: i don't think any drivers got kicked out of cinder because reviewers had to click a button to see the details of their comments | 16:02 |
| jordanP | jeblair, all I am asking is slightly change the regex you are using | 16:02 |
| greghaynes | mordred: no still not there, glance image-list just shows an empty table | 16:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add os-testr repo https://review.openstack.org/167243 | 16:02 |
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| jeblair | jordanP: have you asked the gerrit trigger plugin maintainers if they would accept a patch to customize the report string? | 16:03 |
| jordanP | fungi, they were kicked because setting up a CI is not that simple. Gerrit-trigger imo is a bit simpler cause it doesn't require zuul. Just my opinion | 16:03 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: you did not approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158891/ are you ok with me doing that now? not sure if there was a specific reason for not approving | 16:03 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yep | 16:03 |
| jordanP | jeblair, I could. But they would say "blah backward compatibily blah " (which I understand). then they will be "plz provide a patch" then I'll be 'I know no java at all :(' | 16:04 |
| jeblair | (was late at the time) | 16:04 |
| clarkb | we are currentl not building dib images because we don't have enough disk space on nodepool.o.o so I will get 158891 in and try to clean that up | 16:04 |
| fungi | jordanP: i'm just pointing out that the argument you're making in favor of changing that regex is specious (your driver won't be rejected because you have slightly different comment formatting) | 16:04 |
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| jordanP | fungi, of course not. Thingee said my CI was fine. I shouldn't have mentionned this sorry :) | 16:05 |
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| jordanP | just that I'd love my CI to be present in the top right corner of gerrit UI | 16:05 |
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| jordanP | so that it's more visible. | 16:05 |
| jordanP | cause it's not voting now (which is better that way... :) ) | 16:06 |
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| fungi | jordanP: running the software we write is one way to accomplish that. unlike gerrit-trigger, zuul will allow you to heavily customize your reporting | 16:06 |
| jordanP | my arguments are 1) It's small change 2) Supporting out of the box gerrit trigger will benefit to several people | 16:06 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: oh! that seems like totally broken glance endpoint | 16:07 |
| jordanP | fungi, I am aware of this. In my company, we are only 3 openstacks. We have to write code, and maintain our infra. We are already familliar with jenkins and gerrit trigger | 16:08 |
| mordred | greghaynes: you shoudl at least see the system images | 16:08 |
| jordanP | *openstackers | 16:08 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: do you have the export OS_IMAGE_API_VERSION=2 | 16:08 |
| mordred | ? | 16:08 |
| mordred | greghaynes: /me loves finding new error conditions | 16:09 |
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| clarkb | mordred: greghaynes maybe thats what happens when you can't upload directly to glance? | 16:09 |
| clarkb | I would double check the glance talking to swift step | 16:09 |
| mordred | clarkb: but he uploaded | 16:10 |
| mordred | clarkb: and it worked | 16:10 |
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| mordred | clarkb: it just isn't showing up in glance image-list | 16:10 |
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| mordred | the image he uploaded is showing up in nova image-list | 16:10 |
| clarkb | mordred: sure, just saying that this is a clunky system that isn't atomic and leaves the user hanging out to dry if you get an small bit of it wrong | 16:10 |
| mordred | clarkb: totally | 16:10 |
| fungi | jordanP: also i'm trying to find your proposed change, but all i see in scrollback is a link to a request on the ml. what replacement regex are you proposing? or are you asking someone to figure out the new regex for you? | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move hardcoded values into jenkins class params https://review.openstack.org/167288 | 16:11 |
| clarkb | mordred: this sort of error seems like a symptom of "oh I forgot to set this metadata" or "whoops used the wrong glance command if I want it in the image list" | 16:11 |
| jordanP | fungi, I can and will hapilly submit a patch. | 16:11 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah. I'm more fascinated by the fact that glance image-list doens't show him _anything_ | 16:11 |
| fungi | jordanP: i'm not saying it will necessarily be accepted, but a concrete proposal is much easier to reason about (especially since it's probably a one-line change in this case) | 16:12 |
| jordanP | it boils than to replacing <li> by <li|p> and extracting the right part of the JOB URL to get the job name | 16:12 |
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| jordanP | fungi, I am 100% with you. Going to submit a patch tomorrow | 16:12 |
| jordanP | I just wanted to get the temperature :) | 16:13 |
| fungi | jordanP: awesome, thanks | 16:13 |
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| * fungi gets back to being depressed over the complete lack of schema in etherpad-lite's database | 16:13 | |
| mordred | fungi: but schemas make things hard. you can't just operate schemas with your beard | 16:14 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, isn't it fun :) | 16:14 |
| fungi | it's got only one table, two columns. they've implemented a key-value store in an rdbms | 16:14 |
| fungi | literally, they named the table "store" and the columns for it are called "key" and "value" | 16:14 |
| clarkb | fungi: yes | 16:15 |
| fungi | le sigh | 16:15 |
| clarkb | fungi: you can run etherpad lite with redis instead | 16:15 |
| clarkb | but I am almost positive you would be more depressed in that situation | 16:15 |
| fungi | yeah | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Cleanup devstack-(trusty|precise)-dib images https://review.openstack.org/158891 | 16:19 |
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| fungi | clarkb: so i think your original suggestion is probably the only viable solution... query all revisions via the api and replay them into a new pad | 16:23 |
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| clarkb | :/ fwiw last time I just took the last good version and put it back in the pad | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add os-testr repo https://review.openstack.org/167243 | 16:25 |
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| fungi | clarkb: agreed. i've never considered the history in etherpad to be especially durable, enough to trust it to stick around indefinitely, but maybe that's just because i've seen so many specific failures | 16:26 |
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| fungi | maybe our users don't realize it's not a great place to track long-term modifications to information (as opposed to a git repo, meeting logs/minutes, et cetera) | 16:27 |
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| clarkb | we can change the intro text to pads to be a bit more specific about this | 16:28 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: Yes, I was doing the glance api versoin forcing | 16:37 |
| mordred | greghaynes: wow | 16:37 |
| mordred | greghaynes: I'd file a ticket ... glance image-list should Just Work and show you a list of things | 16:37 |
| mordred | greghaynes: that said ... if it works for you now - it's not urgent | 16:37 |
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| greghaynes | Yea, its funny, most my tickets ive been filing read like launchpad bugs more than support tickets | 16:38 |
| mordred | hahaha | 16:38 |
| mordred | greghaynes: next time you're bored we should figure out what's wrong | 16:38 |
| greghaynes | mordred: so for you the image-list works? | 16:38 |
| greghaynes | er, glance image-list | 16:38 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: yes | 16:39 |
| mordred | greghaynes: fwiw, I'm running latest python-glanceclient | 16:39 |
| greghaynes | oh, wierd | 16:39 |
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| greghaynes | yes, I just installed this vm new yesterday | 16:39 |
| mordred | greghaynes: I'm assuming keystone catalog shows you an image section | 16:40 |
| greghaynes | yep | 16:40 |
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| greghaynes | ok, if its a just me thing then my review comments arent valid | 16:40 |
| mordred | well - they may be somethign we need to learn if they are another valid case that shade should detect and deal with | 16:41 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: the nodepool tenant settings that work are: http://paste.openstack.org/show/196056 | 16:41 |
| greghaynes | you left the pasword blank | 16:42 |
| greghaynes | ;) | 16:42 |
| mordred | greghaynes: yes - sed is good like that | 16:42 |
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| greghaynes | Looks like mine, im using IAD region though | 16:42 |
| mordred | let me try that, just for completeness | 16:42 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: yes. IAD works for me with glance image-list | 16:43 |
| greghaynes | huh, fun | 16:43 |
| greghaynes | ticket filing time | 16:43 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: have you tried a different region too? | 16:49 |
| greghaynes | ah, good idea | 16:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add os-testr repo https://review.openstack.org/167243 | 16:49 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: I have no idea if that can matter but it seems like something to try | 16:49 |
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| mordred | mtreinish: wow. is that what I think it is? | 16:55 |
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| mtreinish | mordred: it's a testr wrapper | 16:57 |
| mtreinish | mordred: https://github.com/mtreinish/os-testr | 16:57 |
| mordred | mtreinish: nice | 16:59 |
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| mordred | mtreinish: would the intent be that we start having openstack projects depend on os-testr and that would pull in testrepository as needed? | 16:59 |
| marun | Am I the only one that thinks having to run jobs in response to a commit message change is wasteful? | 17:00 |
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| fungi | marun: nope, but also i believe we discussed we need newer gerrit before we can make that determination in its event stream | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | mordred: yeah that and to kill all the pretty_tox.sh scripts | 17:00 |
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| mordred | mtreinish: woot | 17:01 |
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| marun | fungi: ah, gotcha. not enough detail to determine when a change doesn't require recheck. | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | fungi: and we have to stop testing commit messages | 17:02 |
| clarkb | fungi: which is hard now that we support cross repo dependencies but we can likely special case that particular case | 17:02 |
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| fungi | true. if it's a commit-message only change, we may still need to check the change itself to analyze the commit message for changes in dependends-on headers | 17:03 |
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| fungi | though i am happy to lobby for dropping all commit message analysis from hacking jobs if we haven't done so already | 17:04 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think we have for kilo but not juno/icehouse | 17:04 |
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| clarkb | with the cleanup of devstack-trusty-dib and devstack-precise-dib images we have disk space again so I am building the dib images that got stale due to disk | 17:20 |
| clarkb | notmyname: you should be safe to recheck that change now | 17:20 |
| notmyname | clarkb: thanks | 17:20 |
| mordred | clarkb, fungi: btw - I bit the bullet and wrote a nova spec: https://review.openstack.org/167202 | 17:20 |
| arosen | Hi, I have a quick nodepool flavor question. It seems like my disk isn't getting created large enough in my nodepool instances. The flavor I'm using for nodes looks like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/196077/ | 17:21 |
| arosen | I had this problem once before and I think it was related to the disk flavor though. | 17:21 |
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| mordred | clarkb: moving forward, what do we want to do with disk on nodepool server? once we add rackspace, we're going to add vhd files, which are at least 2x as big as the qcow2 files | 17:22 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think we need to image build worker stuff or attach a large cinder volume to nodepool | 17:23 |
| clarkb | mordred short term is use cinder volume long termis have build workers | 17:23 |
| greghaynes | image build worker? | 17:23 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: jroll: so after a bit of research and testing, i can't find an easy way to restore the pad history for IronicWhiteBoard but if you want i can provide you with exports from specific revisions (or for all ~30000 in a compressed tarball) | 17:23 |
| greghaynes | that sounds neat | 17:23 |
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| greghaynes | is the idea basically have nodepool gearman out to workers that run dib? | 17:24 |
| jroll | fungi: yeah, even just last revision would be helpful | 17:24 |
| clarkb | mordred also we should probably ask glance to do this for us but sounds like they dont want to be in the image business much anymoee | 17:24 |
| clarkb | greghaynes yes | 17:24 |
| clarkb | greghaynes jeblair wrote a spec for it | 17:24 |
| NobodyCam | fungi: I think just that last version so we can repost it the etherpad | 17:25 |
| greghaynes | ah, implementation left as an exercise for the reader? | 17:25 |
| arosen | also can nodepool create raw disks instead of qcow2. I'm trying port my setup to dreamhost and it seems they only allow you to upload raw disks not qcow2. | 17:25 |
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| mordred | arosen: yes it can | 17:25 |
| fungi | jroll: NobodyCam: okay. so was http://paste.openstack.org/show/196032/ sufficient for that? | 17:25 |
| mordred | arosen: you can just tell it what format you want | 17:26 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: want to write some code? :) | 17:26 |
| jroll | fungi: oh yeah, should be | 17:26 |
| jroll | thank you! | 17:26 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: thinking about it | 17:26 |
| fungi | jroll: yw, sorry i wasn't more help there | 17:26 |
| jroll | it's all good | 17:26 |
| arosen | mordred: can you tell it the size of the disk you want to use so you don't have to rely on the flavor size? | 17:26 |
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| greghaynes | need to finish up this nodepool-dib in rax stuf first, but having the context is nice | 17:27 |
| arosen | I'm having a problem right now that my slaves don't have large enough disk. | 17:27 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: ++ | 17:27 |
| NobodyCam | fungi that is a massive help ... thank you for all you effort :) | 17:27 |
| fungi | jroll: there's no api to alter the existing revision history to make repairs to it, and trying to do it in the backend db (while i was able to partly reverse-engineer their key-naming scheme) is dicey and doesn't do what i hoped | 17:27 |
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| jroll | fungi: yeah, not a problem, thanks for your help :) | 17:28 |
| mordred | arosen: I don't believe that's as doable | 17:28 |
| clif_h | has anyone encountered python setup.py failing with AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'packaging' where the module is pkg_resources? This is on Ubuntu 14.04 | 17:28 |
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| mordred | arosen: because the flavor has the disk the flavor has | 17:28 |
| clif_h | on a devstacked machine | 17:28 |
| arosen | mordred: do you know how the disk flavor sizing works in nodepool. Does nova size the disk based on the flavor size? | 17:28 |
| clif_h | gist: https://gist.github.com/ClifHouck/473909cfe1876800e1a8 | 17:28 |
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| mordred | arosen: yes - flavor sizes are configured nova-side - so if you select a flavor with not enough disk in nodepool, nova will not be able to boot it | 17:28 |
| mordred | arosen: I think a workaroudn is to do a boot-from-volume approach - but that would be a patch to nodepool - we don't grok that at all right now | 17:29 |
| arosen | mordred: the weird thing I'm seeing is I have a disk flavor size of 40 but the guest is only getting 8gigs of disk. | 17:29 |
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| clarkb | what installs numpy on our devstack image builds | 17:29 |
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| clarkb | mordred: ^ I think you mentioned pandas over the weekend? an idea why that is being installed? | 17:30 |
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| mordred | clarkb: no - I just saw the patch come through and thought it sounded funny | 17:30 |
| fungi | clif_h: i think that can happen if you're using "old" setuptools | 17:30 |
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| clarkb | oh is it subunit2sql? | 17:30 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: subunit2sql uses pandas, but that should only be in a temp venv in the nodepool create | 17:30 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: ^ | 17:30 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: ya ok | 17:30 |
| mordred | arosen: when you say "not enough disk" - do you mean to not be able to boot? | 17:31 |
| mordred | arosen: or not enough disk that it can't do things afterwards? | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: although it doesn't use it for the thing we're doing in nodepool (or the gate), it's just a req for the graphing tool | 17:31 |
| arosen | mordred: the later. | 17:31 |
| mordred | arosen: there is a thing, cloud-initramfs-growfs I think | 17:31 |
| fungi | clif_h: try `pip list|grep setuptools` and see if it's a 0.x release or something newer | 17:31 |
| arosen | devstack fills up the disk | 17:31 |
| mordred | that needs to be installed so that your image/disk gets resized up to the size of the available disk | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: nova pulls in numpy as a 2nd level dep for one of the console output things in tree (spice I think, could be one of the others though) | 17:31 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: ya its fine, it just surpriused me. I think the fix there is the wheel mirroring that greghaynes pushed patches for | 17:31 |
| mordred | SpamapS, greghaynes: ^^ can you guys comment on that? I'm waving hands rightnow | 17:31 |
| clif_h | setuptools (14.3.1) is what I got fungi | 17:31 |
| arosen | mordred: I'm using nodepool + dib is this something special that needs additional configuration? | 17:32 |
| mordred | arosen: I believe we have it in the elements we use | 17:32 |
| mordred | arosen: so I'd be surprised if its not working for you if you hven't heavily modified things | 17:32 |
| sdague | clarkb: spice console is what pulls in numpy in devstack | 17:32 |
| sdague | because it's actually doing graphics math | 17:32 |
| fungi | clif_h: aha! you're trying to use easy_install | 17:34 |
| fungi | clif_h: try `pip install .` instead of calling into setup.py | 17:34 |
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| clarkb | sdague: gotcha | 17:34 |
| clif_h | interesting | 17:35 |
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| clarkb | mordred: nibalizer jeblair are we openstackci or openstackinfra on puppetforge now? | 17:35 |
| clif_h | fungi: can I do the equivalent of setup.py develop that way? | 17:35 |
| jeblair | clif_h: openstackinfra | 17:35 |
| clarkb | jeblair: thanks :) | 17:35 |
| fungi | clif_h: pip install -e . | 17:35 |
| fungi | clif_h: that does an "editable" install (same thing as "develop" mode) | 17:36 |
| clif_h | fungi: I just got the same message using pip install | 17:36 |
| sdague | clarkb: all those python packages that we use from distro because they are compiled are there for a reason. It's one of the things we do gain from that. Especially given how long numpy takes to compile. | 17:36 |
| clif_h | but otherwise TIL | 17:36 |
| clarkb | sdague: ya | 17:36 |
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| clif_h | jeblair: ? | 17:36 |
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| fungi | clif_h: okay, so pip's vendored setuptools and pkg_resources isn't solving it then | 17:36 |
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| fungi | clif_h: i wonder if setuptools is finding an older pkg_resources module | 17:37 |
| mordred | fungi: what's the problem? | 17:37 |
| fungi | mordred: https://gist.github.com/ClifHouck/473909cfe1876800e1a8 but also happens with pip install . | 17:37 |
| nibalizer | clif_h: openstackinfra | 17:37 |
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| nibalizer | er clarkb, er you got you answer :P | 17:38 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: wow you did it too :P | 17:38 |
| clif_h | ??? | 17:38 |
| mordred | fungi: that seems ungood | 17:38 |
| clarkb | clif_h: they are tab completing my nick and failing to get it correct | 17:38 |
| fungi | clif_h: people keep tab-completing cl to you instead of clarkb | 17:38 |
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| clarkb | clif_h: we both have a 'cl' prefix | 17:38 |
| clif_h | oh sorry | 17:38 |
| clif_h | haha | 17:38 |
| nibalizer | clif_h: sorry for failping | 17:39 |
| clif_h | no problem, just was confused | 17:39 |
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| clif_h | fungi: any suggestions? Can I reinstall setuptools/pkg_resources? | 17:40 |
| clif_h | or should I? | 17:40 |
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| fungi | clif_h: probably, i was first just trying to figure out how you can determine where you're importing pkg_resources from by default | 17:42 |
| clarkb | dprince: anything new on rh1? anything we can do from our end to help? | 17:42 |
| marun | anteaya: turns out running the api tests was already documented: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/TESTING.rst#with-tox | 17:42 |
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| marun | anteaya: I'm still going to submit some minor cleanup, and I look forward to your feedback on that change. | 17:42 |
| fungi | clif_h: but anyway, since you seem to be trying to install this into your system-wide environment, something like `sudo pip install -U pkg_resources` and then try again | 17:42 |
| SpamapS | mordred: you're right | 17:43 |
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| clif_h | fungi: https://gist.github.com/ClifHouck/a45d39dccd58324ec215 | 17:43 |
| anteaya | marun: wonderful and thanks for finding that, I was merely shepherding luqas' question and hadn't looked myself thank you | 17:43 |
| SpamapS | mordred: cloud-initramfs-growroot though | 17:43 |
| dprince | clarkb: still down I'm afraid, This hit me at a bad time (I'm on travel this week). The issue seems to be a NW loop somewhere (related to OVS somehow I think) | 17:44 |
| marun | anteaya: I was the one that added it, but my memory is apparently very short. | 17:44 |
| fungi | clif_h: yep, /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages is going to be coming from your distro python-pkg-resources package | 17:44 |
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| anteaya | jordanP: and to be clear the thread about drivers being removed from cinder for not having ci is because they don't have ci | 17:44 |
| dprince | clarkb: derek and kambiz from our side are working through some issues still... | 17:44 |
| clif_h | fungi, and I don't want that? | 17:44 |
| jordanP | anteaya, yep ! | 17:44 |
| fungi | clif_h: while the setuptools in your traceback is coming from /usr/LOCAL/lib/... | 17:44 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: 165682, I think jhesketh is correct shouldn't you just always inject that list element? | 17:45 |
| clif_h | ah, indeed | 17:45 |
| anteaya | jordanP: if you read patrickeast's post he correctly points out anyone who made a serious commitment to it and showed up ws suucessful | 17:45 |
| fungi | implying a recent pip install | 17:45 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: do it globally then forget about the logic in each class? | 17:45 |
| anteaya | marun: my memory is non-existant these days so I envy you your short memory | 17:45 |
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| marun | anteaya: :) | 17:45 |
| clarkb | dprince: ok, I guess let us know if you need us to test anything from our side | 17:45 |
| anteaya | :) | 17:45 |
| mrmartin | fungi, I found what's wrong with askbot chinese solr index. patch landing soon | 17:45 |
| fungi | clif_h: and yeah, ubuntu's pkg_resources package is 3.3, so pretty old (and likely incompatible with setuptools 14) | 17:45 |
| clif_h | fungi: so how do I force sanity? uninstall ubuntu packages? | 17:46 |
| fungi | mrmartin: great--thanks! | 17:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Refactor o_p::base into o_p::template https://review.openstack.org/162830 | 17:46 |
| dprince | clarkb: sure, will do | 17:46 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: 162830 needs a rebase apparently | 17:47 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: wow I should read my scrollback first | 17:47 |
| fungi | clif_h: sanity isn't a word i use much when referring to python packaging libraries, but just doing a pip install -U of it ought to fix this. if it doesn't, then yes more thorough measures may be required | 17:47 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: yea its in permanent rebase hell | 17:48 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: The issue IIRC is that a glance image create needs to show up in the nova image listing | 17:48 |
| nibalizer | it isnt even a meaningful rebase, git is just really confused that we dont want the base.pp file | 17:48 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: its not the actuall seed list, its a run time addition to the list | 17:48 |
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| clif_h | I tried -U for pkg_resources but it claims it can't find anything that satisfies that requirement | 17:48 |
| fungi | clif_h: i tend to avoid the situation by never pip installing anything into the system environment and use virtualenvs for all important python software and leave the system itself entirely under the control of the distro's package manager | 17:48 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: functionally its saying if I don't have an image list which is shared among locations then make this the image | 17:49 |
| clif_h | fungi: what if I'm devstacking? | 17:49 |
| clif_h | does devstack use virtualenvs and such? | 17:49 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: so if you want a global list you can just always populate the list. Or you could make it not global and just make the two clients have the same entries? | 17:49 |
| fungi | clif_h: oh, right, i think setuptools itself might be providing that. one possibility is that you pip installed setuptools and then the distro updated its python-pkg-resources package and entrypoints are now pointing at that | 17:50 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: but ya novaclient and glanceclient both do image listings so this is making sure both fakes handle that | 17:50 |
| fungi | clif_h: so try `sudo pip install -U setuptools` and see if that's any better | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: No need to run the puppet-unit tests on setproxy https://review.openstack.org/166976 | 17:50 |
| fungi | clif_h: i believe there may be a devstack redesign underway to install services into virtualenvs | 17:50 |
| fungi | clif_h: not sure about the status there though | 17:51 |
| clarkb | fungi: I don't think services just clients | 17:51 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: some kind of shared state is required between the two clients for that list, so yea the two options are to inject the same list into both or use a global, global seemed the far easier and actually better for testing (the fakes appear more like a working system rather than something we inject desired state into) | 17:52 |
| fungi | ahh, so they still get to battle distro python package dependencies vs pip python package dependencies | 17:52 |
| fungi | at least where the servers are concerned | 17:52 |
| greghaynes | jhesketh: ^ | 17:52 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: in that case populate the global in one place | 17:52 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: which is jheskeths suggestion | 17:52 |
| clarkb | its not sideffecting code so should be fine to do at import time | 17:52 |
| greghaynes | oh, to do it at import time | 17:53 |
| greghaynes | hrm | 17:53 |
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| greghaynes | yea, I guess thats ok... functionally I think thats actually worse, I can just make a function so the code isnt duplicated | 17:53 |
| notmyname | clarkb: looks like the requirements job failed again https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-swift-requirements/46/console | 17:53 |
| greghaynes | I mean, im not vehemently opposed, just seems like a step back | 17:53 |
| mordred | greghaynes: are you guys talking about doing fakes for the novaclient and glanceclient stuff in nodepool? | 17:54 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: yes | 17:54 |
| mordred | yeah - so let's not do that | 17:54 |
| clarkb | notmyname: that looks like a bug in the fix :/ I will look at it | 17:54 |
| notmyname | clarkb: thanks | 17:54 |
| clarkb | mordred: we already do that | 17:54 |
| greghaynes | mordred: not do which part of that | 17:54 |
| clif_h | fungi: tried that, claimed it was already installed, forced a reinstall with pip, still broken | 17:54 |
| mordred | sorry - I misunderstood the nature of the conversation | 17:54 |
| mordred | what I'm saying is that fakes for those two are not going to be very helpful in testing that the shade patch to nodepool is correct | 17:55 |
| mordred | since shade handles the novaclient/glanceclient logic internally | 17:55 |
| fungi | clarkb: that should probably be looking for /tmp/tmp7vINq0/requirements rather than /tmp/tmp7vINq0/openstack/requirements now? | 17:55 |
| mordred | and what we really want to test in nodepool is nodepool's ability to deal with image lists- yeah? | 17:55 |
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| mordred | if we test that at the right function level, then replacing the guts of how we get a list of images should be a good test as to whether the shade patch hasnt' broken something | 17:56 |
| clarkb | fungi: maybe, I think we also need to be better about telling zuul-cloner where to clone to | 17:56 |
| * SpamapS is reminded that we should make a shade fake too | 17:56 | |
| SpamapS | a cloud type that is just all the fakes | 17:56 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: maybe, it did already hit a few bugs so it seems useful on its own. It sounds like shade is just going to be doing its own client fakes so im fine with moving it out once we migrate over | 17:56 |
| clarkb | mordred: so we need to test nodepool now before we switch to shade and we need to test the switch to shade. tl;dr that is not a thing I want to worry about right now | 17:56 |
| clarkb | mordred: the switch to shade can fix what is necessary | 17:57 |
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| fungi | clif_h: yeah, cleaning up from a mix of distro and pip installing the same package is messy. unfortunately there are probably other distro packages installed depending on python-pkg-resources but you might try `sudo apt-get uninstall python-pip python-pkg-resources python-setuptools` and see if it wants to remove lots of other stuff too | 17:57 |
| SpamapS | Note that a big backend switch like that is likely to need an integration test safety net | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove duplicate _version_ definition from askbot's Chinese solr schema https://review.openstack.org/167345 | 17:57 |
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| greghaynes | If we were really smart we would just be using the same fakes code for shade and nodepool and then it wouldnt really be an issue that were working on this in nodepool too | 17:58 |
| mordred | greghaynes: yes | 17:58 |
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| clif_h | wow, that seems to have worked its no longer hitting the distro's pkg-resources module | 17:58 |
| clif_h | fungi: I owe you a beer | 17:59 |
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| clif_h | thanks a lot | 17:59 |
| mordred | that was my main thing - any new testing code in nodepool right now that is doing fakes of *client objects is necessarily going to need to be tossed with the shade patch | 17:59 |
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| mordred | because shade will not be exposing *client objects to the nodepool code | 17:59 |
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| mordred | and I just want to make sure we're doing thigns in a way that isnt' increasing our total aggregate workload | 17:59 |
| greghaynes | mordred: Yep. The fakes changes going in actually arent that much in terms of new code - its mostly using existing fakes | 17:59 |
| fungi | clif_h: 301 beer redirect to the pip and setuptools maintainers. they're having a hard time of it ;) | 17:59 |
| clif_h | haha | 17:59 |
| greghaynes | mordred: theres just some tweaks so we make use of them better | 17:59 |
| mordred | greghaynes: awesome | 18:00 |
| clarkb | mordred: yes but please don't forget we are weeks away from using shade in nodepool and nodepool needs testing today | 18:00 |
| mordred | clarkb: sure | 18:00 |
| mordred | clarkb: it needs testing | 18:00 |
| clarkb | mordred: the code is written, it works, it catches bugs | 18:00 |
| mordred | I just want to make sure the way that we write _new_ tests for nodepool | 18:00 |
| clarkb | therefore we shouldn't even think about shade right now when reviewing it | 18:00 |
| mordred | taht happens in the interval | 18:00 |
| mordred | is done at a level that is potentially useful | 18:00 |
| fungi | mrmartin: while you're thinking about askbot, were you planning to duplicate whatever was dumping the postgres db and static files in a tarball? that's convenient to have on the filesystem even if we still have bup backing up the fs to a remote store | 18:00 |
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| jeblair | mordred: how do you imagine we will test nodepool with shade? | 18:01 |
| mordred | clarkb: or, as greghaynes says, if the two use the same fakes, then carrying a test across so taht we don't lose coverage as part of the new patch | 18:01 |
| clarkb | mordred: the problem is we have no idea what that will look like until we have a change to use shade that is remotely close to being reviewable | 18:01 |
| mordred | clarkb: sure | 18:01 |
| mordred | listen | 18:01 |
| mordred | I'm not saying don't do it | 18:01 |
| mordred | I'm just saying don't add craploads of new tests taht are testing teh python-*client interface layer - but if that's the right place to do it - then do it | 18:02 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Is your comment about integration testing a hint that we could do something like run nodepool tests that import shade and use the shade fakes? | 18:02 |
| mordred | jeblair: well, two ways - a) we're already adding functional testing with shade on dvsm nodes - b) fakes/whatnot in nodepool that fakes out the shade interface | 18:02 |
| jeblair | mordred: most of the fake testing up to this point has been about testing _nodepool_ behavior based on what openstack does.... | 18:02 |
| jeblair | mordred: yeah, so i think current nodepool client faking can -> shade faking | 18:02 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: no thats a functional test in my mind.. integration test is a tiny but real test.. at least, in my mind. :) | 18:03 |
| jeblair | mordred: because the fakes aren't about testing openstack clients, it's about testing whether nodepool marks a server ready when a server comes online | 18:03 |
| greghaynes | real tests!? | 18:03 |
| jeblair | mordred: and that should map fairly straightforward | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: I'm thinking more of a devstack+nodepool test. | 18:03 |
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| greghaynes | ah | 18:03 |
| jeblair | yes, i think that will be swell too :) | 18:04 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: my thinking is just that since shade will involve refactoring tests inside nodepool, it would be good to have a macro smoke test. | 18:04 |
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| jeblair | if shade can fake openstack, then i think it would be fine for nodepool functional tests to use shade with fakes. but if that's weird, i'm okay having the fake thing be shade itself. | 18:05 |
| SpamapS | I'm kind of stepping back from my nova-super-fake thing because it has proven more brittle than I'd thought. | 18:05 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: yep, agreed | 18:05 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Ah, the bit we have in nodepool seems to work. Its not that complex though | 18:05 |
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| SpamapS | but just having devstack-gate spin up and pointing nodepool at it seems like a low hanging fruit. | 18:05 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: my super fake idea is a nova-api that fakes all the things. | 18:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: echo the node definiion before apply test https://review.openstack.org/167346 | 18:05 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Yea, is it basically turning into implementing nova? ;) | 18:06 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: so you actually point a keystone at a nova-api and it responds with lifelike data | 18:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Just saw http://paste.openstack.org/show/196110/ on a gate job that's likely going to fail as a result. Any idea why it wouldn't be able to find the directory if it's using a cached copy of the requirements repo? | 18:06 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: It's basically turning into "zomg we're being attacked by an RPC constrictor" | 18:06 |
| clarkb | fungi: jeblair: does zuul-cloner strip the org prefix by default? my reading of the lcone mapper says it doesn't but seems like fungi thought it would above | 18:06 |
| greghaynes | hah | 18:06 |
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| clarkb | sigmavirus24: because the script is broken, I am working on a fix now | 18:07 |
| fungi | clarkb: not sure. i was about to hold a worker and see if i could replicate the issue manually | 18:07 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i do not believe it does; so my change attempted to take that into account | 18:07 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya ok | 18:07 |
| clarkb | fix will be pushed momentarily | 18:07 |
| jeblair | clarkb: wait what fix? | 18:08 |
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| jeblair | why is there no output from zuul-cloner in that output | 18:08 |
| mordred | jeblair, SpamapS: I also eventually would love to figure out how to configure a devstack to behave like RAX and like HP | 18:08 |
| clarkb | because its being called by the outer script | 18:08 |
| mordred | for the ideosyncracies that we know about | 18:09 |
| jeblair | sigmavirus24: can you link to the actual job? | 18:09 |
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| fungi | jeblair: https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-swift-requirements/46/console | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix destination for requirements clone dest https://review.openstack.org/167348 | 18:10 |
| clarkb | jeblair: fungi sigmavirus24 notmyname ^ | 18:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | jeblair: one sec | 18:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | https://jenkins05.openstack.org/job/gate-glance-requirements/178/console | 18:11 |
| SpamapS | mordred: well that brings up an interesting question. | 18:11 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh, it's not in cwd. | 18:11 |
| jeblair | clarkb: can we make it output at the same time? | 18:11 |
| jeblair | it's really evil that we can't see that. | 18:11 |
| SpamapS | mordred: perhaps instead of a devstack case, we have a limited-quote-user case and just make an integration test per intended cloud? | 18:11 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya I can make that change too | 18:11 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i think that would be "print run_command(...)"? | 18:12 |
| mordred | SpamapS: that would be great - unless one of those tests killed our cloud :) | 18:12 |
| mordred | SpamapS: we might need to wait for zuulv3 for that to really work | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | David Caro proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added possibility to use non-existent keys https://review.openstack.org/101580 | 18:12 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: because we'll need to pass secrets in to ephemeral workers | 18:13 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I am going to do similar, I want to show the command called along with the output | 18:13 |
| mordred | SpamapS: you know we USED to functional test glance against rax swift and amzn s3 backends ... | 18:13 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh, output may go to stderr because of the logging module | 18:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb: we probably need to output both | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix destination for requirements clone dest https://review.openstack.org/167348 | 18:14 |
| clarkb | oh hrm | 18:14 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: it already prints the command | 18:15 |
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| clarkb | oh I see | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix destination for requirements clone dest https://review.openstack.org/167348 | 18:18 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ^ that should do it | 18:18 |
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| dkranz | clarkb: One of my colleagues is trying to report a JJB bug at https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/723 but is not able to do so. Are there known issues with doing this? | 18:26 |
| clarkb | dkranz: how is it failing? | 18:26 |
| dkranz | clarkb: I'll paste what she said | 18:27 |
| dkranz | clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/196115/ | 18:28 |
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| dkranz | clarkb: I can have her jump in though she does not usually hang out in the openstack channels | 18:28 |
| mrmartin | fungi: yeap, I can add the dump script there, if you like | 18:28 |
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| clarkb | dkranz: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000219 just worked for me, so not sure how else to debug this without more info | 18:29 |
| dkranz | clarkb: ok, thanks. That is helpful info. | 18:30 |
| clarkb | dkranz: I can dig into the server logs if we get a bit more info like account name | 18:30 |
| fungi | clarkb: i think you missed one spot in 167348 where you need to account for the return value change | 18:30 |
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| clarkb | fungi: good catch, will update | 18:31 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: is it: "extra characters added to template variables when realized"? because there are 6 things filed with that title | 18:31 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: I think it's the page size thing | 18:31 |
| mrmartin | fungi: if you open an ssh tunnel to askbot's 8983 port, you can access the solr dashboard, and if something wrong like this schema things, it is usually writing out the error msg there. | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix destination for requirements clone dest https://review.openstack.org/167348 | 18:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ | 18:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | aha, that's what fungi ment | 18:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | *meant | 18:33 |
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| fungi | clarkb: er, yep. my comment had the [0] in the wrong spot, but you figured it out ;) | 18:34 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya :) | 18:34 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: that is weird. When I go to https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/723 I don't see any of those | 18:34 |
| fungi | ianw: your comment amused me | 18:34 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: it's a storyboard bug, change your page size to 100 in your profile settings and you'll see them | 18:35 |
| mtreinish | it pages the output but doesn't give you an indication to page forward in the ui | 18:35 |
| fungi | mtreinish: less of a bug and more of a "nobody's added that feature yet" | 18:36 |
| mtreinish | fungi: meh, still sounds like a bug to me :) | 18:36 |
| jeblair | clarkb: +3 | 18:37 |
| clarkb | thank you | 18:38 |
| clarkb | jeblair: fungi do you think I should delete the existing bare-trusty images for now? | 18:38 |
| jeblair | clarkb: probably so, this is a regression | 18:38 |
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| clarkb | ok doing that now | 18:39 |
| fungi | clarkb: i can take care of it and then start building new images once that lands unless you really want to do it | 18:39 |
| dkranz | clarkb: ok, got it. Can she remove the extras or do you need to do that? | 18:39 |
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| fungi | jeblair: what was the workaround to "alembic.util.CommandError: No such revision or branch '1cdd4e2e74c'"? | 18:40 |
| clarkb | dkranz: I think you can probably mark them as complete? | 18:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: already doing it :) | 18:40 |
| clarkb | old images are deleted now | 18:41 |
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| jeblair | fungi: 'rm -fr gertty.egg-info && pip install -e .' i think? | 18:42 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: fungi yup, though I just use git clean -xfd | 18:43 |
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| jeblair | ah yeah or that | 18:43 |
| jeblair | i believe the change to fix that in pbr has merged, but i'm guessing no release yet? | 18:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix destination for requirements clone dest https://review.openstack.org/167348 | 18:45 |
| mordred | I'm not sure it's merged yet - I did also submit the backport to the feature/0.6 branch, fwiw | 18:46 |
| mordred | but you are correct, we have not released with that fix yet | 18:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Replace the Gerrit WIP icon https://review.openstack.org/165228 | 18:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: echo the node definiion before apply test https://review.openstack.org/167346 | 18:46 |
| fungi | jeblair: clarkb: hrm, yep cleaning and reinstalling from tip of master worked. for some reason i thought i had done that already, but clearly not | 18:47 |
| fungi | thanks! | 18:47 |
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| jeblair | mordred: 165511 and it merged to master | 18:48 |
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| jeblair | mordred: not so much to feature/0.10 | 18:49 |
| jeblair | also. feature/0.10? nevermind. forget i asked. | 18:49 |
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| mordred | jeblair: the description of the patch needed is on the mailing list (to get master back on track) - I have not yet fully paged all the context back in to be able to do it | 18:50 |
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| jeblair | yeah, saw that | 18:50 |
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| clarkb | anyone else want to review 164036? plan to approve it shortly then restart nodepool after the meeting to pick up the new logging config | 18:52 |
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| fungi | clarkb: ianw: lgtm | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE COPY ALL OF .TESTREPOSITORY to log server https://review.openstack.org/149719 | 18:58 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 18:59 |
| fungi | meeting time! | 19:00 |
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| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 19:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Initial files for the puppet-openstackci repo https://review.openstack.org/165588 | 19:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add methods for logical router management https://review.openstack.org/167371 | 19:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add methods for logical router management https://review.openstack.org/167371 | 19:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Generate nodepool logging configuration https://review.openstack.org/164036 | 19:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Upload devstack-gate documentation with logs https://review.openstack.org/167158 | 19:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: zuul-swift-devstack-logs includes console https://review.openstack.org/167378 | 19:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Allow the neutron-ci group to vote in the *aaS repos https://review.openstack.org/167264 | 19:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Ensure the latest version of bandersnatch https://review.openstack.org/167382 | 19:53 |
| clarkb | anteaya: ^ | 19:53 |
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| anteaya | aren't you awesome | 19:53 |
| zaro | anteaya: no, i'm not blocked on any gerrit patches. | 19:54 |
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| anteaya | zaro: thanks I didn't think so | 19:54 |
| anteaya | mostly I wanted you to say that so we could wrap up that topic and move on | 19:54 |
| anteaya | but we moved on anyway | 19:54 |
| anteaya | so it's all good | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | fungi: jeblair yes it was rage deleted because of some rule we couldn't work around that didn't let us write valid puppet iirc | 20:00 |
| jeblair | oh okay, but not for rocket alignment itself | 20:01 |
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| fungi | nope, that was just an added bonus ;) | 20:01 |
| anteaya | any one know who notnownikki is? | 20:02 |
| clarkb | once nodepool's logging config is updated I will be restarting nodepool fyi | 20:03 |
| clarkb | otherwise its likely going to continue to be a code review day for me | 20:03 |
| anteaya | cool | 20:04 |
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| clarkb | oh Iwill kick off bare-trusty builds once we get the new logging config in too | 20:04 |
| clarkb | that will be a good exercising of the new log output | 20:04 |
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| zxiiro | I'm trying to setup nodepool but I keep getting: Could not find any suitable endpoint. Correct region? | 20:04 |
| zxiiro | any ideas on what I should look at in regards to configuration? | 20:05 |
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| zxiiro | I know my username and password are correct since if i change them it gives me auth failure instead | 20:05 |
| clarkb | zxiiro: did you set a region name and project id? | 20:06 |
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| zxiiro | Yes, i'm using rackspace so i got DFW for region name and my projectt-id is my tenant id | 20:06 |
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| clarkb | zxiiro how does it otherwise compare to our config? you likely need the service type set too | 20:08 |
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| pabelanger | zxiiro, clarkb: Ya, I also have service-type and service-name setup for RAX | 20:09 |
| zxiiro | clarkb: i used this as a reference and was copying your DFW one to do mine https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/templates/nodepool/nodepool.yaml.erb | 20:09 |
| pabelanger | but, my config is a little old | 20:09 |
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| zxiiro | service-type: 'compute' i'm not sure if mine's the same or if that should be a different value? how do i know where to get the service type from? | 20:09 |
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| clarkb | zxiiro run `keystone catalog` against rax. its likely the same | 20:10 |
| ianw | clarkb: thanks! i'm putting finishing touches on a change to nodepool to auto-reload logging config too | 20:11 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, also there is that keystoneclient bug with endpoints if zxiiro has both legacy compute/nova compute in the catalog and an older keystoneclient | 20:11 |
| notmyname | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167348/ landed to fix the requirements thing. when will it be available. | 20:12 |
| zxiiro | ah ok i wasn't aware of that command | 20:13 |
| zxiiro | let me check... | 20:13 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: we'll be in a world of hurt if we can't get our master->feature merge landed today | 20:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack-infra/project-config: heat-dsvm-functional enable build pip mirror https://review.openstack.org/165227 | 20:14 |
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| fungi | notmyname: if clarkb doesn't have time to rebuild the worker images, i can take care of it | 20:14 |
| notmyname | fungi: thank you :-) | 20:14 |
| clarkb | notmyname we can add a branch to global reqs too | 20:14 |
| clarkb | but its lunchtime now | 20:15 |
| fungi | just don't want to duplicate effort/step on toes | 20:15 |
| fungi | since it's not my lunchtime, i'm happy to keep tabs on it while lurking the tc meeting | 20:16 |
| notmyname | fungi: clarkb: how long does it take to do the rebuild and make them available? | 20:16 |
| fungi | notmyname: !an hour | 20:16 |
| fungi | er, ~an hour | 20:16 |
| notmyname | fungi: ok | 20:16 |
| fungi | silly keyboard | 20:16 |
| notmyname | fungi: thanks. that would be great, actually. gives us some time to clean up the merge patch too | 20:16 |
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| notmyname | fungi: please ping me when it's ready | 20:17 |
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| zxiiro | clarkb: apparently removing the service-type made it work fo rme | 20:18 |
| agentle | dhellmann: did you sense that stable docs would be expected for the stable libraries? reviewing the library-stable-branches spec and wondering aloud. | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Craig Bryant proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move coobook-monasca-* to stackforge-attic https://review.openstack.org/167387 | 20:20 |
| clarkb | fungi restarting nodepool after log config is updated is what I was waiting on | 20:20 |
| clarkb | but our puppet loop is about 45 minutes long now | 20:20 |
| cinerama | StevenK, when you get a chance can you change the topic on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167081/ to zanata? we're (apparently) tracking the associated changes by topic across all the projects | 20:20 |
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| fungi | clarkb: got it. i forgot we were trying to get the log change applied after the meeting | 20:20 |
| fungi | i guess restarting nodepoold in the middle of me updating images would be full of fail | 20:21 |
| clarkb | I think its ok but image builds will confirm that tge log config is happy | 20:22 |
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| nibalizer | whelp i did it https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet-docs/pull/476 | 20:24 |
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| zxiiro | for nodepool what doe sthe "name" field in images refer to? I assumed it was a freeform string i can enter but I seem to be incorrect in that assumption and my nodepool keeps deleting the image and recreating it. | 20:27 |
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| fungi | clarkb: will they? i thought image builds initiated from the cli don't go to the log | 20:29 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: thanks for proposing that pr | 20:30 |
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| clarkb | fungi: oh duh, in any case lunch is done and logging config is applied | 20:31 |
| clarkb | I am restarting nodepool now | 20:31 |
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| clarkb | thats done, will kick off bare-trusty builds now | 20:32 |
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| fungi | okay, thanks! | 20:32 |
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| clarkb | rax builds are underway. we went 0 for 5 on the first pass with hpcloud | 20:36 |
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| fungi | pew pew cloudlasers | 20:40 |
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| pabelanger | hehe | 20:41 |
| sputnik13 | we're trying to get openstackinfra bot in #openstack-cue, can someone with +2 for project-config please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158011/ | 20:41 |
| sputnik13 | we already have a +2 on it, not sure why it wasn't workflowed | 20:42 |
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| fungi | sputnik13: we generally wait for a second +2 to approve, though sometimes we also delay approval beyond that for more specific reasons (in which case ideally someone mentions their reason in a review comment, though that doesn't always happen unfortunately) | 20:45 |
| AJaeger_ | sputnik13: you need two +2s | 20:45 |
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| sputnik13 | fungi AJaeger_ ic, thank you for the clarification | 20:45 |
| jeblair | mordred: i think you got the depends-on reversed in 166821 | 20:45 |
| mordred | jeblair: yes. yes I did | 20:46 |
| anteaya | asselin: can you add this ci to the filtered ci group please? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:openstack_ci%2540intel.com+status:open,n,z | 20:46 |
| asselin | anteaya, sure | 20:46 |
| anteaya | asselin: thanks | 20:46 |
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| asselin | done | 20:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add ansible role for building and uploading images https://review.openstack.org/166547 | 20:47 |
| mordred | jeblair: fixed | 20:47 |
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| anteaya | asselin: thank you | 20:49 |
| zxiiro | Why would a nodepool image boot up and immediately get deleted and a new one is created? my setup seems to be stuck in a image building loop | 20:49 |
| zxiiro | i don't see anything in debug logs | 20:50 |
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| clarkb | zxiiro: possible that nodepool cannot ssh into the image booted? | 20:51 |
| fungi | zxiiro: when you say "image boot up" do you mean instance? | 20:51 |
| clarkb | zxiiro: try doing an image build in the foreground with `nodepool image-update` | 20:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack-cue to gerritbot https://review.openstack.org/158011 | 20:51 |
| zxiiro | fungi: yes instance, rackspace says the instance is active, and then immediately i'ts deleted | 20:51 |
| fungi | zxiiro: if so, yeah frequent causes are what clarkb mentions (does your puppet manifest or something install your expected ssh key on the filesystem?), or perhaps the instance isn't booting successfully | 20:52 |
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| asselin | zxiiro, or try using disk-image-builder option...personally I found it simpler to debug. | 20:52 |
| ianw | clarkb: urgh -> http://nodepool.openstack.org/ lots of zeros so i've got something wrong | 20:52 |
| clarkb | ianw: I think we need to wait for image builds tomorrow | 20:52 |
| zxiiro | ok thanks for the tips, i'll give those tools a try | 20:52 |
| ianw | clarkb: i thought you said you were doing some? | 20:52 |
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| clarkb | ianw: I am but then fungi pointed out that they just log to stdout and won't hit the log files | 20:53 |
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| ianw | oh, if done via cmd | 20:53 |
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| fungi | yup | 20:58 |
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| zxiiro | Ok i found a log that says Exception: Unable to find public IP of server | 21:03 |
| zxiiro | We boot our images with private IPs though, is that gonna be a problem? | 21:03 |
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| clarkb | zxiiro: yes, nodepool assumes it will get a public IP iirc | 21:04 |
| fungi | zxiiro: nodepool looks at the nova list output (well, the nova client library equivalent method) for the addresses marked "public" | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | I didn't realize that rax would give you a node with only a private ip | 21:05 |
| zxiiro | doh | 21:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow JJB to set connection timeout to jenkins server https://review.openstack.org/151472 | 21:05 |
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| zxiiro | yeah the way we designed our infra we boot most things with only private IPs | 21:05 |
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| fungi | since our providers give us multiple addresses/interfaces per instance, nodepool needs a way of figuring out to which it should be connecting | 21:06 |
| clarkb | zxiiro: how do you do that with rackspace? | 21:06 |
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| zxiiro | I see in the docs there's a setting The ‘pool’ key is optional. This can be used to specify a floating ip pool in cases where the ‘public’ pool is unavailable or undesirable. | 21:06 |
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| zxiiro | Wonder if i can use that for private ips somehow? | 21:07 |
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| clarkb | zxiiro: rax doesn't support floating ips so that won't work | 21:07 |
| fungi | zxiiro: that's specific to floating ips | 21:07 |
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| zxiiro | ah ok | 21:07 |
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| zxiiro | clarkb: we have a vyatta router at the edge of our rackspace network handling the private IPs | 21:08 |
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| clarkb | zxiiro: oh wiat | 21:08 |
| zxiiro | clarkb: so we create instances with no public interface adn connect through that | 21:08 |
| clarkb | this isn't rackspace public cloud? | 21:08 |
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| zxiiro | Hmm I honestly don't know. we use the mycloud.rackspace.com site | 21:09 |
| zxiiro | i thought there was only one rackspace cloud service | 21:09 |
| mordred | there is a thing called rackspace connect | 21:09 |
| mordred | which allows taking things in the traditional hosting places | 21:09 |
| mordred | and connecting them to cloud instances | 21:09 |
| mordred | I'm guessing this uses that | 21:09 |
| agentle | zxiiro: that's the public cloud, yep, but also mordred's splaining better :) | 21:10 |
| clarkb | oh I see | 21:10 |
| mordred | zxiiro: so - I don't have a great option for you this instant | 21:10 |
| clarkb | I was going to say not sure we can run our own virtual router in rax and make anything like that work | 21:10 |
| clarkb | but sounds like its an additional offering? | 21:10 |
| mordred | however- there is a simple boolean option in shade that will use private instaed of public | 21:10 |
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| mordred | so, although it's a few weeks away, the guts for supporting such a thing is on its way | 21:11 |
| zxiiro | mordred: ah ok, any ticket or bug or review i can follow to get updates on that? | 21:11 |
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| jroll | clarkb: I feel like you can boot a vyatta instance, not sure if it would work | 21:11 |
| jroll | (for this case) | 21:12 |
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| zxiiro | or if there's something i can hack together in the short term while we wait | 21:12 |
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| fungi | zxiiro: well, extremely ugly, but you could probably hack a temporary fork of nodepool with s/public/whatever-your-interface-is-named/ | 21:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nan Liu proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elasticsearch: Use archive to fetch/checksum instead of wget. https://review.openstack.org/164908 | 21:15 |
| mordred | zxiiro: I can point you to what you'd need to patch - one sec | 21:15 |
| JayF | jroll: we don't have api-support for floating ips at all today, I believe | 21:15 |
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| jroll | JayF: I know | 21:15 |
| mordred | zxiiro: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/nodepool/tree/nodepool/provider_manager.py#n41 | 21:15 |
| mordred | zxiiro: change that to "private" | 21:15 |
| mordred | zxiiro: or, whatever the name of your network is as returned in nova show | 21:16 |
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| zxiiro | mordred: thanks i'll give that a try. | 21:16 |
| zxiiro | mordred: I'd be interested in following your ticket / review for the future official support too if there's one available. | 21:17 |
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| mordred | zxiiro: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156322/ <-- this is where shade will land - it's decently far from finished so far - but it's important, so I'll hopefully be paying close attention to it soon | 21:19 |
| mordred | zxiiro: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/shade/tree/shade/__init__.py#n151 is where the constructor allows specification that you'd rather use private than public interfaces | 21:21 |
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| zxiiro | mordred: great thanks! i subscribed myself | 21:21 |
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| clarkb | notmyname: all image rebuilds are done now. You can likely try again now | 21:28 |
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| james_li | why tests on F20 nodes are taking so long time? this solum patch has been sitting for ~59hrs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166211/ | 21:28 |
| james_li | it happened since last Friday | 21:28 |
| james_li | seeing "gate-solum-devstack-dsvm-f20: queued (non-voting)" | 21:28 |
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| james_li | on zuul status page | 21:29 |
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| fungi | james_li: it looks like they won't boot again | 21:34 |
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| fungi | ianw: this time i'm seeing devstack-f20 instances in a "booting" state for up to an hour in rackspace. trying to connect to the virtual console just gets me "Error: Host iad.servers.console.rackspacecloud.com port 443 is not an RFB server" | 21:35 |
| ianw | fungi: if you give me some details i'll look into it | 21:35 |
| james_li | fungi: thanks. so can we expect for a fix to it in a couple of days? | 21:35 |
| fungi | james_li: i honestly have no idea | 21:35 |
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| ianw | james_li: we can fix it ... also you could switch to f21 nodes | 21:36 |
| ianw | james_li: or probably better, centos ... is there a reason for f20? | 21:36 |
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| agentle | reed: around? | 21:36 |
| reed | yep | 21:37 |
| lifeless | .oO Google seem to be on an open sourcing roll | 21:37 |
| reed | agentle, do you change your nickname every season? :) | 21:37 |
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| lifeless | http://bazel.io/ | 21:37 |
| james_li | ianw: thanks we can definitely consider switch to f21, is there any config difference between the two? | 21:37 |
| reed | lifeless, yeah... what's that? :) | 21:37 |
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| greghaynes | lifeless: yea, was just reading up on that | 21:38 |
| greghaynes | its like buck | 21:38 |
| james_li | ianw: or between centos and f20? | 21:38 |
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| lifeless | reed: well, grpc last month and now this. | 21:38 |
| ianw | james_li: i think centos would actually be better; unless you *need* something in fedora, because the lifespan is a lot longer. unless you *need* something in fedora | 21:38 |
| * reed googles grpc | 21:38 | |
| lifeless | reed: these are things that googlers I know have sworn are too hard to open souce because dependency-chain-and-stuff-and-stuff | 21:38 |
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| james_li | ianw: I think we can shoot for centos | 21:38 |
| lifeless | reed: so its nice to see them coming out | 21:38 |
| lifeless | reed: bazel is a build tool | 21:39 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: Interestng question that came up is that their tool is big on expressing dependencies on files / codebases, how do you enforce that with rest api's | 21:39 |
| ianw | james_li: ok, you know where to set that up? | 21:40 |
| reed | i saw the announcement, I stopped at the governance not being very open but hey, if the tool is cool a nice OSS license is enough :) | 21:40 |
| james_li | ianw: project_config? | 21:40 |
| ianw | james_li: yep; ping me and i can help | 21:41 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: lifeless well that and bazel doesn't enforce any deps between files today | 21:42 |
| clarkb | so you can express them but its up to you to figure out the dependencies and enforcement | 21:42 |
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| greghaynes | well, apparently thats not true | 21:42 |
| greghaynes | not entirely | 21:42 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: it is for bazel they flat out say it | 21:42 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: may not be true for google | 21:43 |
| greghaynes | ah, fair enough | 21:43 |
| lifeless | reed: it should do massively distributed builds, but I suspect thats either held back or not migrated to open yet | 21:43 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: skyframe? | 21:43 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: http://bazel.io/docs/skyframe.html | 21:43 |
| clarkb | it also has the problem of not being developed in the open | 21:43 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: no | 21:44 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: thats the semi-functional framework at its core | 21:44 |
| ianw | scons has it's issues, but i always liked that it was python all the way down | 21:44 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: ah. This is all new codes to me | 21:45 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: ah, in the FAQ | 21:45 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: search for build cluster. | 21:45 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: sounds like bazel has the hooks, but not the cluster code :(. This is frustrating. | 21:45 |
| ianw | fungi: obviously anything you can find out would help; i'll try to reproduce with my rax account soonish | 21:45 |
| clarkb | lifeless: yes :) | 21:45 |
| greghaynes | hah, ouch | 21:46 |
| fungi | ianw: pretty much i can't tell anything. trying to boot the images we have just spins in nova and eventually it gives up trying to boot. it may raise an error in our debug log too. i can look later after i'm done cooking dinner | 21:46 |
| clarkb | notmyname: any luck ? | 21:46 |
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| zaro | clarkb: any idea why this is failing? http://logs.openstack.org/58/160158/6/check/jenkins-job-builder-compare-xml/649cfe1/console.html | 21:56 |
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| zaro | looks like some git error. | 21:57 |
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| zaro | it started failing on 3/22 and still continues to fail. | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Temporarily add trove plugin configuration https://review.openstack.org/167412 | 21:58 |
| jeblair | zaro: oh it may be a shallow clone | 21:58 |
| jeblair | zaro: yeah. we should change that to use zuul-cloner; do you want to do that? | 21:59 |
| zaro | not sure i know how atm, but can look into it. | 21:59 |
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| jeblair | zaro: I22f8d1b40c28fa3f35105da1e02574a1a0bf1556 was a similar change | 22:00 |
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| jeblair | zaro: due to the same problem | 22:00 |
| jeblair | zaro: (note also the change after that which fixed a bug) | 22:00 |
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| zaro | jeblair: thanks. | 22:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Cranford proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove devstack-dsvm-f20 from solum gate https://review.openstack.org/167413 | 22:01 |
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| james_li | ianw: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167413/1 in this patch we turn off F20 gate. Do you think it will work? | 22:05 |
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| clarkb | fungi notmyname I need to afk for more doctor visits but if you have anymorentrouble I would just make a temporary branch on global requirements repo | 22:09 |
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| james_li | ianw: if that won't work, we need to totally remove the F20 job in project-config/jenkins/jobs/solum.yaml ? | 22:10 |
| zxiiro | so I finally got a nodepool instance booted. image is created successfully then it creates a new instance based on the image. During the image phase it sets a ssh key and uses that to login but when it finally boots a final instance it doesn't set an ssh key so at the end i'm not able to login. | 22:12 |
| zxiiro | what's the proper setup here? do i need to make copying the ssh key part of the prepare scripts? | 22:12 |
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| zxiiro | i thought it would have used the same key i gave it to build the image but i guess not | 22:13 |
| notmyname | clarkb: fungi: had to step away for a meeting. back now and looking | 22:13 |
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| cinerama | hmm...my git remote updates seem to be getting hung up on gerrit | 22:16 |
| ianw | james_li: was there a reason for the f20 job? | 22:16 |
| james_li | ianw: it is non-voting for solum now, and since F20 node has a boot problem now. so in our irc meeting today we just decided to remove it for now and just keep trusty. | 22:17 |
| james_li | and later we will add another flavor for example centos | 22:18 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: ok - I built an image with that my patched dhcp-all-interfaces, uploaded, booted in hp ... no network | 22:41 |
| mordred | greghaynes: so I'm thinking there may be a bug :) | 22:41 |
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| clarkb | mordred the current issue is init running your script? | 22:44 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. well, not init per-se - it could be init, or it could be upstart, or it could be systemd | 22:45 |
| clarkb | pid 1 :) | 22:45 |
| mordred | clarkb: I haven't debugged the newest element | 22:45 |
| mordred | clarkb: but I was piggybacking on a previously existing hing | 22:45 |
| SpamapS | mordred: could you pastebin your console? | 22:48 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: oh - is taht the nova console command? | 22:49 |
| clarkb | console-log | 22:49 |
| * mordred always just gives up and goes to horizon | 22:49 | |
| mordred | ooh! | 22:49 |
| mordred | AH | 22:49 |
| mordred | nevermind | 22:49 |
| mordred | pebkac | 22:49 |
| mordred | thank you both | 22:49 |
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| greghaynes | developer duck | 22:50 |
| mordred | well - two bugs | 22:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix shallow clone in jenkins-job-builder-compare-xml job https://review.openstack.org/167422 | 22:50 |
| mordred | a) I didn't do --config-drive when I did nova boot :) | 22:50 |
| mordred | BUT | 22:50 |
| mordred | it's HP - so that shouldn't matter | 22:50 |
| mordred | The disk drive for /mnt/config is not ready yet or not present. | 22:50 |
| mordred | keys:Continue to wait, or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery | 22:50 |
| mordred | so - it seems the fstab line for mounting /mnt/config is not correct | 22:50 |
| zaro | jeblair: could you please tell me how i can find the change after r change | 22:50 |
| greghaynes | hah, yep | 22:51 |
| jeblair | zaro: "git log": it's Id39140ac2a0ccbaf9a9ac0f6f76350c539048670 | 22:51 |
| zaro | jeblair: change I22f8d1b40c28fa3f35105da1e02574a1a0bf1556 ? gerrit does not save that history and i couldn't tell from git histroy | 22:51 |
| mordred | greghaynes, SpamapS, clarkb: echo "LABEL=config-2 /mnt/config iso9660 ro,auto,nofail 0 2" >> /etc/fstab | 22:52 |
| mordred | shouldn't nofail, you know, skip it if not present? | 22:52 |
| SpamapS | mordred: nofail should do exactly that | 22:52 |
| SpamapS | nofail do not report errors for this device if it does not exist. | 22:52 |
| zaro | jeblair: thanks | 22:53 |
| mordred | SpamapS: OH! | 22:53 |
| mordred | nobootwait | 22:53 |
| tim_o | is review.openstack.org's IP 104.130.159.134 ? | 22:53 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: These are: ``bootwait'' which can be applied to remote filesystems | 22:53 |
| mordred | mounted outside of /usr or /var, without which mountall(8) would not | 22:54 |
| mordred | hold up the boot for these; | 22:54 |
| SpamapS | Ah yeah that abomination. ;) | 22:54 |
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| SpamapS | mordred: still don't think backporting cloud-init and hosting an apt repo would be easier? ;-) | 22:55 |
| mordred | SpamapS: no | 22:55 |
| mordred | SpamapS: I'd like to think that I can get an fstab entry correct | 22:55 |
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| mordred | becasue, let's face it - if I can't maintain a static entry in fstab, I have no business running an apt repo | 22:55 |
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| clarkb | mordred does hpcloud alwats config drive now? | 22:57 |
| mordred | no | 22:57 |
| SpamapS | mordred: this is about the 20th thing you've had to get correct and will have to tailor to each OS... something cloud-init has already figured out. Justsayin. | 22:57 |
| mordred | clarkb: my fstab entry did not properly skip /mnt/config if the config-drive was missing | 22:57 |
| SpamapS | I still think cloud-init is an overly complicated monster. | 22:57 |
| SpamapS | But it's a mature, overly complicated monster. | 22:57 |
| mordred | SpamapS: I disagree | 22:58 |
| mordred | SpamapS: this is not something I have to tailore to each OS | 22:58 |
| mordred | this is STANDARD linux | 22:58 |
| mordred | and so far, none of the distros have screwed up fstb | 22:58 |
| mordred | fstab | 22:58 |
| SpamapS | nobootwait is Ubuntu specific. | 22:58 |
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| fungi | zxiiro: if nobody's answered you yet, we use a puppet manifest to set up a "jenkins" account (which will eventually be used by our jenkins masters as well). you can pass a key in from your prep scripts by setting the content in $NODEPOOL_SSH_KEY | 22:58 |
| fungi | zxiiro: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/nodepool/scripts/prepare_node.sh#n60 | 22:59 |
| mordred | SpamapS: really? | 22:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Create a log server like http://logs.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/167425 | 22:59 |
| mordred | SpamapS: there is no normal way to do this? | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | mordred: yes, it was invented because mountall was invented. | 22:59 |
| mordred | oh | 22:59 |
| mordred | so - mountall is ignoring nofail then? | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | fstab is supposed to be things that mount at obot, or noauto. | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | at boot rather | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | as in, you have stuff you _need_ to wait for, or stuff you don't. | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | mountall does things all eventy, so it complicated that. | 22:59 |
| mordred | ah | 22:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Use common log server implementation https://review.openstack.org/167426 | 23:00 |
| mordred | ok - well, there is another way to deal with this - I will do that | 23:00 |
| SpamapS | systemd is a bit smarter, but will eventually reimplement fstab. | 23:00 |
| SpamapS | thats not snark either, thats the goal. | 23:00 |
| zxiiro | fungi: thanks the link helps | 23:00 |
| mordred | sigh | 23:00 |
| SpamapS | mordred: arguably you _want_ bootwait. | 23:00 |
| clarkb | we should just use freebsd | 23:01 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: freebsd already uses us. why not? ;-) | 23:01 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: why would I want bootwait? | 23:01 |
| mordred | SpamapS: I want the drive mounted if its there, otherwise I don't care | 23:02 |
| SpamapS | mordred: because you don't want your system to boot without its' configuration? | 23:02 |
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| SpamapS | mordred: ah, you want udev then. :) | 23:02 |
| fungi | tim_o: yes, and also 2001:4800:7818:102:be76:4eff:fe05:9b12 (see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056508.html for announcement) | 23:02 |
| clarkb | thats what dhcp is for | 23:02 |
| mordred | SpamapS: I'm certain I don't :) | 23:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Use common log server implementation https://review.openstack.org/167426 | 23:02 |
| SpamapS | also fstab has never been very good at being portable | 23:02 |
| mordred | SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", TAG+="systemd", ENV{SYSTEMD_WANTS}+="dhcp-interface@$name.service" | 23:03 |
| SpamapS | so it is actually possible that this particular thing has never been possible. | 23:03 |
| mordred | taht's a udev file | 23:03 |
| mordred | your'e telling me that that is a thing I want? | 23:03 |
| SpamapS | mordred: it's the hardware-portable answer to this currently. | 23:03 |
| clarkb | morddred what if your init script just does it | 23:03 |
| mordred | SpamapS: it's just ... I mean | 23:03 |
| mordred | clarkb: that's what's about to happen | 23:03 |
| SpamapS | mordred: ^^ what clarkb said | 23:03 |
| clarkb | if mount stuff else exit 0 | 23:04 |
| mordred | SpamapS: cause see - all I _actually_ want is sysvinit | 23:04 |
| mordred | yup | 23:04 |
| mordred | in fact, I wrote that code already a while ago :) | 23:04 |
| mordred | but I thought going fstab would be "cleaner" and "more like unix" | 23:04 |
| mordred | because "fstab" | 23:04 |
| mordred | is "normal" | 23:04 |
| SpamapS | which btw, is how cloud-init does this.. looking for it with blkid | 23:04 |
| SpamapS | Actually what would be good would be if cloud-init were a set of tiny scripts that operated independently of cloud-init. | 23:04 |
| SpamapS | find-openstack-configdrive would be a useful tool. | 23:05 |
| mordred | yes | 23:05 |
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| fungi | the popular argument is that sysvinit supported this as a side effect. the systemd maintainers consider it a bug that you could have a system boot to completion while unable to mount something listed in your fstab | 23:06 |
| tim_o | more imporantly, here's the old one: 23.253.232.87 | 23:06 |
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| fungi | decades of behavior entrenched as sysadmin assumption notwithstanding | 23:06 |
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| SpamapS | fungi: my favorite arguments are the ones where one side argues that the thing thats been working for generations was always the wrong thing. | 23:07 |
| fungi | SpamapS: yep ;) | 23:07 |
| clarkb | like vaccines | 23:07 |
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| SpamapS | Sadly, sometimes they're right. :) | 23:07 |
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| fungi | tim_o: yes, the previous gerrit server had ip addresses 23.253.232.87 and 2001:4800:7815:104:3bc3:d7f6:ff03:bf5d | 23:07 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: ohnoyoudiint | 23:07 |
| * clarkb goes back to being in doctors office | 23:07 | |
| openstackgerrit | James Li proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Switch devstack-dsvm-f20 to centos7 for solum gate https://review.openstack.org/167413 | 23:08 |
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| fungi | tim_o: but what you find returned by dns is correct so long as your resolvers aren't somehow broken | 23:09 |
| mordred | SpamapS: remind me again ... | 23:09 |
| mordred | if I chmod 700 the mount point /mnt/config | 23:09 |
| SpamapS | mordred: root of the FS takes over | 23:09 |
| mordred | k | 23:09 |
| fungi | permissions on the mount point cease to matter once something else is mounted on it | 23:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Create a log server like http://logs.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/167425 | 23:09 |
| mordred | so I need arguments to mount to prevent access? | 23:09 |
| SpamapS | mordred: aye | 23:10 |
| mordred | k | 23:10 |
| fungi | shadowed entirely by the permissions of the root of the filesystem being mounted there | 23:10 |
| mordred | I'll deal with that later | 23:10 |
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| fungi | mordred: what sort of access do you need to prevent? if it's just write access, mounting with ro should take care of that | 23:10 |
| mordred | fungi: read - but actually I can just unmount once I'm done reading | 23:11 |
| mordred | SpamapS: http://paste.openstack.org/show/196242 | 23:11 |
| fungi | mordred: oh, hah yeah having a write-only filesystem is fairly pointless agreed (with /dev/null as a possible counterexample) | 23:11 |
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| notmyname | fungi: requirements job still has a bug https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-swift-requirements/58/console | 23:13 |
| fungi | notmyname: thanks, looking | 23:13 |
| mordred | SpamapS: ok - I've added a new thing to the matrix we need to test ... | 23:14 |
| SpamapS | mordred: you want -o mode=0700 | 23:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Switch nova-docker-f20 job to centos7 https://review.openstack.org/167437 | 23:14 |
| mordred | SpamapS: we need to test that hp works both with and without config-drive :) | 23:14 |
| fungi | notmyname: it looks like part of that patch didn't apply. trying to figure out what's going on there | 23:14 |
| fungi | notmyname: oh, i see the bug | 23:14 |
| mordred | I'm rebuilding/retrying | 23:14 |
| mordred | btw - the ansible playbook to deal with this ROCKS | 23:14 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Temporarily add trove plugin configuration https://review.openstack.org/167412 | 23:15 |
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| tim_o | Yes, the DNS always worked just fine...the firewall had the issue. | 23:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Strip the correct return value from rev parse https://review.openstack.org/167440 | 23:19 |
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| fungi | clarkb: jeblair: mordred: ^ brown bag fix | 23:19 |
| fungi | i'll rebuild the bare-trusty nodepool images again when that lands. deleting the current ones | 23:20 |
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| jeblair | fungi: +2 | 23:20 |
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| james_li | ianw: fungi: clarkb: Switching F20 job to centos7 for solum gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167413/ Thanks! | 23:20 |
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| fungi | looked through the script and see no other places where we made that error anyway | 23:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Use common log server implementation https://review.openstack.org/167426 | 23:21 |
| mordred | SpamapS: so mount -o mode=0700 /dev/disk/by-label/config-2 /mnt/config | 23:22 |
| mordred | yeah? | 23:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove devstack-f20 nodes https://review.openstack.org/167443 | 23:24 |
| ianw | fungi: ^ so there's the other option ... | 23:24 |
| SpamapS | mordred: that should work yeah | 23:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add puppet-openstackci to included modules https://review.openstack.org/167444 | 23:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Simplify requirements check run_command invocation https://review.openstack.org/167445 | 23:26 |
| fungi | non-emergency improvement pointed out by HenryG ^ | 23:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Use common log server implementation https://review.openstack.org/167426 | 23:27 |
| fungi | thanks! | 23:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Print the node definition before apply test https://review.openstack.org/167346 | 23:27 |
| nibalizer | okay /that/ one should actually work good | 23:28 |
| notmyname | fungi: I've got to step out for a bit. any idea when I can recheck the patch that requirements check is blocking? I want to see it land today | 23:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove f20 node matching https://review.openstack.org/167448 | 23:30 |
| fungi | notmyname: zuul estimates 5 minutes until it merges, then roughly an hour for me to get the worker images replaced again | 23:31 |
| notmyname | fungi: ok, thanks | 23:31 |
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| notmyname | fungi: I'll bike home and check on it later | 23:31 |
| fungi | notmyname: okay, i'll ping you as soon as it's safe | 23:32 |
| notmyname | thanks :-) | 23:32 |
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| clarkb | a depends on should work | 23:34 |
| clarkb | zuul-cloner respects that iirc | 23:34 |
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| clarkb | (this is new for the job though) | 23:34 |
| jeblair | clarkb: but i think the job is still broken | 23:34 |
| clarkb | oh :/ | 23:35 |
| jeblair | clarkb: it will work in the future though, once the script is correct | 23:35 |
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| jeblair | (which is kind of a neat bonus) | 23:35 |
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| jeblair | "this change depends on a future global requirements change" | 23:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Strip the correct return value from rev parse https://review.openstack.org/167440 | 23:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Strip the correct return value from rev parse https://review.openstack.org/167440 | 23:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Print the node definition before apply test https://review.openstack.org/167346 | 23:36 |
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| fungi | bare-trusty image updates are runnign again in all providers | 23:40 |
| fungi | agentle's thread on legal-discuss points out that none of our infra documentation indicates its license in rendered form, only hidden away in its source tree | 23:41 |
| fungi | dhellmann: is there a sphinx convention recommended for indicating licensing in documents, or should we just hardcode it into our footer string? | 23:42 |
| fungi | i notice that governance.o.o, specs and so on exhibit the same problem | 23:43 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: woot! | 23:50 |
| mordred | SpamapS: the no-config drive use-dhcp case works | 23:50 |
| mordred | greghaynes: ^^ | 23:51 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: on hp, with ubuntu-minimal vm cloud-instance-simple-config infra | 23:52 |
| greghaynes | ooo | 23:52 |
| greghaynes | awesome | 23:52 |
| mordred | trying with config-drive enabled | 23:52 |
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| greghaynes | ill get there eventually ;) you keep making elements faster than I can review / test them | 23:53 |
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| greghaynes | with a hot cache these minimal elements are pretty fast | 23:54 |
| greghaynes | I like | 23:54 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: \o/ | 23:54 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: sorry - I may have warned you - I can churn out not-quite-done code like a banshee | 23:54 |
| mordred | s/may have/may not have/ | 23:55 |
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| greghaynes | haha, ive noticed | 23:55 |
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| fungi | if as often suggested the last 10% is 90% of the effort, then by writing code which is 90% done you can churn it out 10x as fast as people who write complete code ;) | 23:57 |
| fungi | efficiency in action! | 23:58 |
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