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| clarkb | I am in keystoneclient session | 08:02 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: did you see I pushed an updated version for: https://review.openstack.org/132729 | 08:32 |
| mtreinish | can you test it on multinode | 08:32 |
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| clarkb | I had not. was working on that now >_> thanks | 08:36 |
| clarkb | I will update my d-g change to test tempest with that change | 08:37 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: mostly looks like what I was coming up with. I think call_until_true() should take *args though but the closure works fine | 08:37 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/check-tempest-dsvm-aiopcpu/2/ | 08:39 |
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| zaro | sdague, lifeless: can you point me to the scripts that generated the gerrit statistics you showed me last night? | 10:29 |
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| mugsie | can someone kick the gerritbot and the logging bot when they have a chance - it has disappeared in #openstack-dns | 10:33 |
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| fungi | mugsie: ugh, they wandered off yesterday too. i wonder if freenode is having a bad week. i'll take a look | 10:36 |
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| fungi | mugsie: the logging bot looks like it's fine... was it ever in #openstack-dns? | 10:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Philip Marc Schwartz proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Create new stackforge project for striker https://review.openstack.org/132966 | 10:39 |
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| fungi | mugsie: looks like the "openstack" meetbot should still be in #openstack-dns logging conversation to eavesdrop.openstack.org | 10:40 |
| fungi | yeah, i just /join'ed that channel and checked, it's already in there | 10:41 |
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| lifeless | zaro: reviewstats | 10:41 |
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| clarkb | what did I just walk into | 10:49 |
| mugsie | fungi: huh - didnt see it in the room.... | 10:49 |
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| zaro | lifeless: is this what you wanted? 'status:open -Workflow-1 -Verified-1 project:openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder NOT(reviewerin:jenkins-job-builder-core label:Code-Review=-1)' | 10:56 |
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| zaro | lifeless, sdague : obviously replace project and reviewerin | 10:57 |
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| jeblair | etherpad was restarted again | 11:01 |
| StevenK | jeblair: Another day, another etherpad restart :-) | 11:02 |
| mgagne | jeblair: is there a way to load-balance that thing? if not, can't etherpad be sharded at the load-balancer/proxy level to multiple etherpad servers? | 11:02 |
| jeblair | i'd love it if it left us any clue why it restarted... | 11:03 |
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| jeblair | mgagne: it keeps too much local state to load-balance active-active; active-pasive doesn't get us anything better than what we have right now. fungi suggested we might put something in front of it to reduce the thundering herd problem on restarts | 11:04 |
| mgagne | jeblair: I don't know the specific about maximum supported connections but people often have 4-5 etherpad opened. In monitoring, we were ~30 and someone referenced an other etherpad and everyone jumped to that one within seconds | 11:04 |
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| jeblair | though that probably means just a different error state for users | 11:04 |
| jeblair | mgagne: it does not seem to be directly load related, we've successfully tested with far more connections than we have right now | 11:04 |
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| mgagne | jeblair: I'm more/less suggesting sharding instead. etherpad aren't inter-dependent afaik so I don't see problem with local state. | 11:04 |
| clarkb | you cant serve the same pad from two app servers but you can shard pads across servers | 11:05 |
| mgagne | clarkb: that ^ | 11:05 |
| jeblair | mgagne: ah, yeah, sharding should work | 11:05 |
| clarkb | mgagne unfortunately that model doesnt help much | 11:05 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: how | 11:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add positron project, which is splitting from neutron under the networking program, as per the paris summit https://review.openstack.org/132998 | 11:05 |
| clarkb | because we tend to have a single pad that is hit harder than everything else by a large factor | 11:05 |
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| jeblair | but i think that unless we actually understand why it restarts, we may end up with two servers that restart | 11:05 |
| clarkb | eg nova and neutron and ops sessions | 11:06 |
| clarkb | jeblair agreed | 11:06 |
| mgagne | clarkb: when you tested multiple sessions, was it on the same pad or multiple pads? | 11:06 |
| clarkb | mgagne both | 11:06 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: right. could also be ALL people are typing at the same time ^^' | 11:07 |
| clarkb | mgagne ya it could be use related | 11:07 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: didn't your testing include writes? | 11:08 |
| clarkb | yes the c++ tool takes writers readers and pad as srgs | 11:09 |
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| clarkb | and writing is definitely a higher costs | 11:09 |
| jeblair | Nov 6 10:58:37 etherpad kernel: [3336862.212292] init: etherpad-lite main process ended, respawning | 11:09 |
| jeblair | Nov 6 11:08:09 etherpad kernel: [3337433.782245] init: etherpad-lite main process (3344) terminated with status 1 | 11:09 |
| jeblair | Nov 6 11:08:09 etherpad kernel: [3337433.782378] init: etherpad-lite main process ended, respawning | 11:09 |
| jeblair | did it again | 11:09 |
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| clarkb | I think we were comfortable at 1024 readers, 100 writers | 11:09 |
| clarkb | (and thats not per pad but server aggregate) | 11:10 |
| fungi | mgagne: jeblair: clarkb: at this point i've got a (poorly supported) suspicion that the network for the conference does something to drop/timeout everyone's sessions, and then the inrush of all the clients reconnecting at the same moment is causing the restarts (whether due to a race or a resource consumption problem, hard to guess) | 11:10 |
| jeblair | clarkb: we peaked at 1800 tcp connections, 1500 when the 10:58 restart happened | 11:11 |
| mgagne | jeblair: "we were comfortable at 1024 readers, 100 writers" hehe =) | 11:11 |
| fungi | the times are not well correlated to anything for the server itself, that i could tell, so chances are the cause is external to etherpad | 11:12 |
| fungi | or at least the triggering event is external | 11:12 |
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| fungi | and we've got some anecdotal evidence of network drops from the conference wireless lan which coincide with one of the events | 11:13 |
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| fungi | i should check my client log | 11:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Updated use of nodejs packages. https://review.openstack.org/133000 | 11:14 |
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| fungi | Nov 6 10:50:08 tsathoggua ntpd_intres[2571]: host name not found: ntp | 11:16 |
| fungi | Nov 6 11:06:10 tsathoggua ntpd_intres[2571]: host name not found: ntp | 11:16 |
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| fungi | that's sort of correlated | 11:16 |
| fungi | those were the two most recent complaints from ntpd on my netbook in here | 11:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Nicer exit on CTRL-c https://review.openstack.org/133002 | 11:18 |
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| fungi | not a great correlation though | 11:19 |
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| jeblair | if i'm reading the upstrat script correctly, stdout and stderr are both logged, so it's not outputting anything when it dies | 11:21 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Someone in the horizon client data session came up to me and asked about what it would take to include elasticsearch in… glance I think? I sent him your way. | 11:21 |
| clarkb | ya stderr went to error log and stdout to access.log | 11:21 |
| clarkb | krotscheck in glance? anyways will keep eyes open | 11:22 |
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| jeblair | i'm stracing the current process to see if we get anything useful the next time it dies | 11:22 |
| fungi | i've set up a ping loop to see if i lose packets to etherpad.o.o from here if/when the next restart happens | 11:22 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: Yeah, my memory’s fuzzy this morning. | 11:22 |
| StevenK | krotscheck: The summit is turning into a blur? | 11:23 |
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| krotscheck | StevenK: Kindof. There might have been wine involved. | 11:23 |
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| krotscheck | StevenK: Ooooh, lunch! | 11:24 |
| fungi | that was some not so bad wine at the museum last night | 11:24 |
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| StevenK | I only had their white wine, but that was pretty good | 11:25 |
| clarkb | the beer in the funny bottle was good | 11:25 |
| StevenK | One of the bartenders did say, "You want beer? Really?" | 11:25 |
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| JpMaxMan | Greetings Infra team - I am attempting to generate a key for myself following the instructions ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenPGP_Web_of_Trust ) but when I go to verify the key "gpg2 --verify ~/.gnupg/sks-keyservers.netCA.pem{.asc,}" I get "using RSA key 0xFC3B17DE05E136A" not "The output should indicate that it was made using RSA key 0x0B7F8B60E3EDFAE3." as the documentation dictates. I assume that the wiki is just out of date? | 11:50 |
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| fungi | JpMaxMan: it shouldn't be... | 11:55 |
| fungi | JpMaxMan: but it's possible the key for that has changed/been rotated | 11:56 |
| fungi | i'll attempt to independently verify--just a sec | 11:56 |
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| fungi | JpMaxMan: https://sks-keyservers.net/verify_tls.php indicates it should be signed by 0x0B7F8B60E3EDFAE3 | 11:58 |
| JpMaxMan | hmm - ok - I hadn't seen that verify page - let me take a deeper look at that. thank you. | 12:02 |
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| fungi | JpMaxMan: aha! tried myself, and it appears kristian has started using a signing subkey for that | 12:15 |
| fungi | Primary key fingerprint: 94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 | 12:16 |
| fungi | Subkey fingerprint: 9527 DCCC D86B 532B 2B54 1A31 FC3B 17DE 05E1 36A0 | 12:16 |
| fungi | (that's at the end of the gpg2 --verify output) | 12:16 |
| fungi | so the 0xFC3B17DE05E136A key you see signing it is a signing subkey for 0x0B7F8B60E3EDFAE3 | 12:17 |
| fungi | er, i'm assuming you meant 0xFC3B17DE05E136A0 and missed the last character when cutting/pasting | 12:18 |
| Guest53474 | ah! ok | 12:22 |
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| fungi | i'll amend the wiki with that if nobody beats me to it | 12:23 |
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| JpMaxMan_ | and yes... 0xFC3B17DE05E136A0 | 12:24 |
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| sdague | zaro: awesome | 13:03 |
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| kashyap | clarkb, Hi, so was discussing with Sean Dague about investigating this live snapshot bug which for some reason only rarely resurfaces in OpenStack CI env - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1334398 | 13:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1334398 in nova "libvirt live_snapshot periodically explodes on libvirt 1.2.2 in the gate" [High,Confirmed] | 13:17 |
| kashyap | The suggestion being - to watch for a log signature in the CI env. and trigger QEMU with GDB (so that we can get a stack trace) | 13:18 |
| kashyap | Wondering how it's possible to do this in CI env. (NB: This issue was not reproducible by plain libvirt/QEMU at all, as you can see from the long thread in the bz.) | 13:18 |
| clarkb | the way to do that today would be fore the job itself to do that | 13:19 |
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| kashyap | No rush. And, n case I bump into you at the summit, maybe can discuss it, and then I can update/follow up on the bug (it's really long now with lots of comments). | 13:19 |
| clarkb | so if tempest failed then check libvirt and dump stacktrace to logs | 13:19 |
| kashyap | clarkb, Can you please rephrase this: "would be fore the job itself to do that" | 13:19 |
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| clarkb | well jobs run in a temporary context that dies with the job | 13:20 |
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| kashyap | Just libvirt debug logs aren't just sufficient now. QEMU seems to hang (or not provide a reply when queried about the status of a block operation) | 13:20 |
| clarkb | so to get that info the simplest thing thing is to update the job to do that stuff | 13:21 |
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| kashyap | clarkb, Hmm, okay, "the job" being the relevant CI job, right? | 13:22 |
| clarkb | yup | 13:23 |
| kashyap | Thank you. | 13:23 |
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| JpMaxMan_ | So I think I've successfully generated the key and submitted to key server. However, I was trying to complete the verification of that certificate by getting the public key using: "gpg --recv-keys 0x0B7F8B60E3EDFAE3" and it continues to throw an error "error reading ca cert file ~/.gnupg/sks-keyservers.netCA.pem (Error while reading file.)" I did notice that "Electrofelix" made an edit to the wiki yesterday specifying a full path to the cert | 13:26 |
| JpMaxMan_ | file ( https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=OpenPGP_Web_of_Trust&diff=prev&oldid=67348 ) and double checked that was in my conf. The permissions are 700 for the .gnupg directory and 600 for the files in the directory. I did have to install gnupgcurl ( http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/113586/i-fail-to-fetch-gpg-keys-over-hkps-with-gpgkeys-http-fetch-error-1-unsupporte ) to get it to fetch the keys in the first place. Just | 13:26 |
| JpMaxMan_ | wondering if anyone else has seen this issue? | 13:26 |
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| fungi | JpMaxMan_: try changing that back in your config? i think gpg may not support ~ expansion in its config, at least in some circumstances? | 13:31 |
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| fungi | JpMaxMan_: my systems use 'keyserver-options ca-cert-file=/home/fungi/.gnupg/sks-keyservers.netCA.pem' (complete path) but i'll test a few options | 13:32 |
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| JpMaxMan_ | fungi: ok cool let me give it a shot | 13:33 |
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| JpMaxMan_ | fungi: thank you - that worked :) | 13:36 |
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| fungi | JpMaxMan_: interestingly, the previous version (without a path) breaks for me but the current one in the wiki prepending ~/.gnupg/ works for my systems | 13:37 |
| JpMaxMan_ | fungi: I used the full path without ~ so I think you were right it wasn't extrapolating the ~ | 13:38 |
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| fungi | JpMaxMan_: could then vary with different gnupg versions or perhaps different interactive shells | 13:40 |
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| lifeless | anyone know if mike bayer is here? | 14:04 |
| JpMaxMan_ | fungi: just a note to say thanks very much for the assist. The Internet connection isn't great here so I keep bouncing off. | 14:05 |
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| fungi | JpMaxMan_: absolutely. let me know if you have any other questions | 14:08 |
| dims__ | lifeless: zzzeek is usually on #openstack-oslo | 14:09 |
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| lifeless | dims__: by here I meant in paris :) | 14:10 |
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| sdague | clarkb / fungi : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133025/ - would be appreciated so I can start the code merge | 14:18 |
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| mgagne | pinging 8.8.8.8, I see dropped packets when etherpad goes down | 14:20 |
| mugsie | I am flying out tomorrow anyway - but I may be around for the mornign bit of the summit | 14:20 |
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| mugsie | gah - dam, buffer | 14:21 |
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| clarkb | mgagne ya I think fungis theory is good | 14:21 |
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| dims__ | lifeless: hehe :) he is not here this time | 14:22 |
| mgagne | clarkb: could wifi be going through a firewall and there is too much sessions? | 14:22 |
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| * mgagne spams pretzel+shift+R | 14:24 | |
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| dougwig | hi infra. jenkins failure on an irc channel change. looks like a scripting issue: http://logs.openstack.org/29/132629/1/gate/gate-project-config-irc-access/7d09e33/console.html | 14:28 |
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| fungi | mgagne: clarkb: also during this last bounce i stopped being able to browse review.o.o as well | 14:31 |
| fungi | so i _do_ think conference network failures are the trigger for this | 14:31 |
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| mgagne | fungi: yep, again | 14:34 |
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| AJaeger | ping sdague | 14:37 |
| sdague | AJaeger: pong | 14:37 |
| AJaeger | sdague: do you have some minutes to discuss translation testing? | 14:38 |
| * AJaeger is sitting with daisy in the pod area right now | 14:40 | |
| sdague | maybe at the break, I'm in the nova session now | 14:40 |
| AJaeger | ok, we'll stay here - to the left on the way to the toilettes, in front of Manet... | 14:41 |
| AJaeger | sdague: would be great, I need some help to clear my head here. | 14:42 |
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| -sendak.freenode.net- [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? Please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp | 15:00 | |
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| fungi | dougwig: also, '/msg chanserv access #openstack-meeting-4 list' shows that accessbot did the right thing once that merged | 15:01 |
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| dougwig | rocking. | 15:02 |
| fungi | and i've set the channel topic and tested out meetbot in it, so should be all set | 15:03 |
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| HeOS | Hi to all! Do you have "hideci.js"-script for gerrit 2.9 or this script works fine on any version ? | 15:12 |
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| fungi | HeOS: i don't think we've (openstack infra) tested it, but i also haven't heard anyone say it's broken with 2.9 | 15:40 |
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| krotscheck | Looks like project groups and project-group-import are all hanging on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127660/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132537/ | 15:49 |
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| krotscheck | I kindof feel like the second one needs a fine toothed comb. | 15:49 |
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