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| jhesketh | lifeless: ah, right you are... we need my passthrough view: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107267/ | 00:05 |
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| jhesketh | and a way to select it via a parameter | 00:05 |
| jhesketh | but I think your solution is still correct given subunit isn't a text protocol | 00:05 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1364171 in neutron "Unexpected SystemExit exception causes the neutron functional job to fail" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1364171 | 00:19 |
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| anteaya | lifeless: I'll try here better | 01:40 |
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| anteaya | the tripleo/tricircle question I mistakenly posted to -meeting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117939/ | 01:40 |
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| lifeless | anteaya: I don't see any overlap | 01:46 |
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| chenglch|2 | When I running devstack , I always have error log like http://paste.openstack.org/show/104613/ in screen-q-dhcp. how can I fix it in my environment? | 07:58 |
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| vdo | Hi all | 11:16 |
| vdo | our zuul gets stuck looking for lost builds | 11:16 |
| vdo | 2014-09-02 10:53:19,666 DEBUG zuul.Gearman: Looking for lost builds | 11:16 |
| vdo | repeteadly | 11:17 |
| vdo | any clue? | 11:17 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | yolanda, hey, do you still need some branches? | 11:31 |
| yolanda | hi Sergey | 11:32 |
| yolanda | yes | 11:32 |
| yolanda | i'm working on a pair of publications | 11:32 |
| yolanda | and i need that they go to separate branches | 11:32 |
| yolanda | SergeyLukjanov, my 2 publications are in https://review.openstack.org/109570 and https://review.openstack.org/118111 | 11:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yolanda, oh, you need branches on -infra/publication | 11:38 |
| yolanda | yes | 11:38 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | yolanda, sorry, but I'm not sure about policies for new branches creation in this repo | 11:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, I think we should wait for fungi to ensure how it should be created | 11:45 |
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| yolanda | SergeyLukjanov, ok, thx anyway | 12:07 |
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| sdague | fungi: hey, so chrome's new security enhancements mean I can't look at jenkins05 because the certificate is revoked | 12:10 |
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| dims | sdague: see the "Advanced" link in the bottom left? | 12:13 |
| sdague | dims: doesn't work on jenkins05 | 12:14 |
| dims | sdague: when you click on that you will see another link to "Proceed" | 12:14 |
| sdague | because it's actually hitting a revoke | 12:14 |
| fungi | yolanda: what branch names do you need? | 12:14 |
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| dims | weird, am on Chrome Version 37.0.2062.94 - sdague | 12:15 |
| sdague | Version 37.0.2062.94 (64-bit) | 12:15 |
| sdague | yeh, I have no proceed button on 05 or 06 | 12:15 |
| fungi | sdague: that's thrilling that chrome doesn't want developers/sysadmins using it (since they will often want to bypass/debug invalid certs in a browser for legitimate reasons) | 12:15 |
| yolanda | fungi, let'sa say ci-automation and using-your-own , do they look fine? | 12:16 |
| fungi | yolanda: sure, just a sec | 12:16 |
| dims | sdague: hmmm, i can get to both 05 and 06 | 12:17 |
| dims | sdague: ubuntu? | 12:17 |
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| sdague | dims: yep, ubuntu | 12:17 |
| * dims switching laptops | 12:17 | |
| fungi | sdague: what exactly is causing those to appear revoked? they look like proper self-signed certs with expiration dates a decade from now | 12:17 |
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| fungi | "revoked" implies someone put them in a crl somewhere | 12:18 |
| sdague | fungi: honestly, I have no idea | 12:18 |
| fungi | which seems... unlikely | 12:18 |
| fungi | sdague: sounds more like a bug to me | 12:18 |
| sdague | is there a ca I can import so the jenkins servers can be trusted? or can we make ssl optional on them? | 12:19 |
| * fungi isn't sure why you want infra effort expended on working around what sounds like a browser bug, but i'll bite | 12:19 | |
| fungi | the ca for a self-signed cert is the cert itself | 12:19 |
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| fungi | when yoor rather the public key is signed by the corresponding private key rather than a separate private key | 12:20 |
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| dims | sdague: ubuntu is fine too. same version | 12:22 |
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| fungi | i'm not sure about whether jenkins can be configured to work via both http and https at the same time, but it can be investigated (i'd rather not give the false impression that the log views there are in any way meant to be secured/sensitive) | 12:22 |
| fungi | right now i think we're mainly relying on https to secure the api connection from zuul, so as to obscure its api key | 12:23 |
| Mithrandir | just get a mafia cert? They're about the same price as a popsicle. :-P | 12:23 |
| sdague | fungi: ok, I think I finally sorted out the cert import in a way that's going to work now. | 12:24 |
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| fungi | Mithrandir: the monetary cost is low. the administrative overhead of maintaining unnecessary certs for non-public-facing connections is much higher | 12:25 |
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| Mithrandir | right | 12:25 |
| sdague | fungi: I guess that's the issue I've had in assuming that jenkins is non public facing, because we link to it all through zuul :) | 12:25 |
| yolanda | fungi, thx | 12:26 |
| fungi | sdague: well, the https we have set up there isn't meant to secure any public-facing data | 12:26 |
| fungi | it's an implementation detail we can discuss cleaning up if possible, but i'd rather we just focused on finishing removing jenkins from our infrastructure instead | 12:27 |
| sdague | yep, that's fair | 12:28 |
| fungi | yolanda: i've created those two new branches, based on the current tip of the template branch (since it seemed to be the parent commit of your two changes | 12:29 |
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| yolanda | thx | 12:29 |
| sdague | also, is jenkins03 no longer a thing? | 12:29 |
| fungi | sdague: why do you ask? seems to be running jobs from what i can tell | 12:30 |
| sdague | sorry, jenkins02 | 12:30 |
| sdague | I did a for loop import for the certs | 12:30 |
| sdague | and it errored | 12:30 |
| fungi | i'm looking at its webui and it also appears to be operating as expected | 12:31 |
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| sdague | I guess i had an old bad cert definition locally | 12:32 |
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| marun | anyone around to watch a config merge? | 13:06 |
| marun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114416/ | 13:06 |
| marun | jeblair, clarkb, fungi ^^ | 13:06 |
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| marun | I think we're having some trouble getting functional testing to play nice with services left running post-devstack. | 13:06 |
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| fungi | marun: yep, looks fine. did you end up setting teh job to non-voting yesterday after all, or were you able to work out what changed in neutron to cause it to start breaking? | 13:08 |
| marun | fungi: we figured out how to get logging turned on and we're tracking down the issue now | 13:09 |
| marun | fungi: we know the failing test anyway, so worst-case we can add a temporary skip | 13:09 |
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| marun | fungi: better than turning off voting methinks | 13:09 |
| fungi | marun: absolutely | 13:10 |
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| marun | fungi: we're going to merge a skip to neutron | 13:11 |
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| sdague | hmmm... is mordred back from the desert? | 13:14 |
| sdague | there seems to be an issue with the integration tests that are in pbr because ironic doesn't have a stable/havana branch | 13:15 |
| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/09/117609/1/check/check-requirements-integration-dsvm/e9d331a/console.html | 13:15 |
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| fungi | is ironic in the projects.txt on the havana branch of the requirements project? | 13:18 |
| fungi | yep | 13:18 |
| fungi | sdague: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/projects.txt#n15 | 13:18 |
| fungi | that's why | 13:18 |
| marun | fungi: can you prioritize this patch that adds a skip for the failing functional test? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118233/ | 13:18 |
| marun | fungi: pretty please? :) | 13:19 |
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| fungi | marun: i take it those 4 other neutron changes ahead of it in the gate are going to bounce out and cause gate resets if 118233 doesn't move in front of them? | 13:21 |
| marun | fungi: Hmmmm, I'm not entirely sure to be honest. The functional failures seem to be periodic. How do I make sure? | 13:21 |
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| marun | fungi: I'm afraid I don't know how to see the failure rate for the job. | 13:22 |
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| fungi | marun: oh, it's a nondeterministic failure, not one which happens 100% of the time? | 13:22 |
| marun | fungi: I think so | 13:22 |
| marun | fungi: often enough to be a problem, but it is passing some of the time | 13:23 |
| marun | fungi: how to see the pass/fail rate for a given job? | 13:23 |
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| dims | fungi: sdague: hopefully quick question, looks like i have to add 2 more oslo libs to nodepool images so this review would work (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117304/) - any pointers where i have to make the change? | 13:26 |
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| fungi | marun: | 13:28 |
| fungi | http://graphite.openstack.org/render/?width=586&height=308&_salt=1409664434.25&target=stats_counts.zuul.pipeline.check.job.check-neutron-dsvm-functional.SUCCESS&target=stats_counts.zuul.pipeline.check.job.check-neutron-dsvm-functional.FAILURE&target=stats_counts.zuul.pipeline.gate.job.gate-neutron-dsvm-functional.SUCCESS&target=stats_counts.zuul.pipeline.gate.job.gate-neutron-dsvm-functional.FAILURE | 13:28 |
| fungi | marun: could use some tweaking | 13:29 |
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| marun | fungi: danke | 13:29 |
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| fungi | dims: every time we update images (generally daily, automatically) we clone all git repositories from gerrit | 13:29 |
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| dims | fungi: i see, thanks let me re-run the tests on that review | 13:31 |
| sdague | fungi: only that's in d-g | 13:31 |
| sdague | dims: are those added to the devstack-gate list of repos? | 13:32 |
| fungi | marun: i'm keeping one eye on the gate pipeline, watching for the next gate reset near the top and then i'll promote that test skip | 13:32 |
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| fungi | dims: sdague: i was talking about what we locally clone/cache in /opt/git on the workers. what you then clone into devstack's workspace is further configured in d-g yes | 13:33 |
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| dims | sdague: y truing to add there | 13:35 |
| dims | sdague: review here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117304/ | 13:36 |
| sdague | dims: that's never going to work until this list includes those repos - https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh#L64-L71 | 13:37 |
| dims | sdague: ack. | 13:37 |
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| marun | fungi: sounds good | 13:43 |
| marun | fungi: I don't think the frequency is enough to justify bouncing otherwise | 13:43 |
| fungi | looks like that heat change at the front may be about to fail out on its final running job | 13:44 |
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| fungi | so as soon as it reports, i'll promote your change before we burn too many new workers on the reset | 13:44 |
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| fungi | marun: done | 13:45 |
| marun | fungi: danke! | 13:46 |
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| sdague | dims: so where is the d-g proposed change ? | 13:52 |
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| dims | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117307/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116995/ | 13:55 |
| sdague | dims: +A | 13:56 |
| sdague | once those land | 13:56 |
| sdague | you can recheck the other thing | 13:56 |
| dims | sdague: splendid. thanks | 13:56 |
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| fungi | i guess we've lost openstackgerrit in the splits over the weekend. fixing | 14:04 |
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| anteaya | lifeless: okay, thanks for checking | 14:11 |
| anteaya | ppai: pinging me when I am asleep is far less useful then stating your question and being in channel when I answer it | 14:12 |
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| sdague | marun: so your promoted neutron patch failed devstack setup - http://logs.openstack.org/33/118233/1/gate/gate-neutron-dsvm-functional/2811cef/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz | 14:25 |
| anteaya | fungi: low on the list, but a repo I created stackforge/radar had two groups to be created in the acl file: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls/stackforge/radar.config radar-core and radar-release and they didn't get created, can you fix that and ensure mikal is in both groups? | 14:25 |
| anteaya | fungi: the repo as far as I can tell has been created accurately | 14:26 |
| marun | sdague: the one that skipped the test? :/ | 14:26 |
| sdague | yep | 14:26 |
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| marun | sdague: oh, you mean the one that stopped installing all the services? | 14:27 |
| marun | sdague: *sigh* | 14:27 |
| marun | sdague: coupling ftw | 14:27 |
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| fungi | anteaya: the acl didn't load... https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/stackforge/radar,access | 14:28 |
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| marun | sdague: I guess i need to revert that and do further local testing | 14:28 |
| fungi | anteaya: i'll debug it in a bit... prepping for a meeting at the moment | 14:28 |
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| anteaya | fungi: yup, low priority and thanks | 14:29 |
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| jamesmcarthur | fungi: were you all able to apply the change to the endpoint from www.openstack.org to direct.openstack.org? | 14:31 |
| fungi | jamesmcarthur: yes, it went into effect around 16:15 utc on saturday, and seemed to continue working fine (also no complaints from anyone about it) | 14:32 |
| jamesmcarthur | awesome. Thanks sir! | 14:32 |
| fungi | jamesmcarthur: thanks again | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Fix welcome screen https://review.openstack.org/118354 | 14:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add project and owner columns to change list https://review.openstack.org/118356 | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Reduce impact of check revisions task https://review.openstack.org/118357 | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add user-agent and version https://review.openstack.org/118358 | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Save draft cover messages https://review.openstack.org/118359 | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Support paging in queries https://review.openstack.org/118360 | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add database pre-reqs for change actions https://review.openstack.org/118361 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add support for editing topic https://review.openstack.org/118362 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add support for rebasing a change https://review.openstack.org/118363 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add support for abandon/restore https://review.openstack.org/118364 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add support for cherry-picking to a branch https://review.openstack.org/118365 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Remove a stray debug line https://review.openstack.org/118366 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add support for editing commit message https://review.openstack.org/118367 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Fix immediate change sync on search https://review.openstack.org/118368 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Clarify keymap entries for local git operations https://review.openstack.org/118369 | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add command line options to print palette and keymap https://review.openstack.org/118370 | 14:35 |
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| Steap | Hey! I'm trying to determine what versions of some pieces of software are used on the CI. I know I can look at the global requirements to have an idea of what packages from PyPi are used, but where can I find the versions of packages installed through the distro's package manager ? | 14:39 |
| Steap | I'm mostly thinking of non-Python-related packages, such as qemu, lib*, or even those installed through the Ubuntu Cloud Archive (such as libvirt, I think) | 14:40 |
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| homeless | hi jesusaurus could you help me to review this one again, wenlock added some commets? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117636 | 14:41 |
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| fungi | Steap: those are currently going to be whatever the current latest packages are from the various distributions we're running (CentOS 6, Ubuntu 14.04, et cetera) | 14:42 |
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| Steap | fungi: oh, it's that simple, ok. Is there a place where I can see all OS used, along with the current release we use ? | 14:57 |
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| anteaya | Steap: use precise for your platform jenkins, zuul, nodepool and trusty for your slaves running devstack-gate | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: did you get any of the ci account requests addressed last week? | 15:04 |
| Steap | anteaya: k | 15:06 |
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| mordred | sdague: nope. not back yet, although I am in network range now and lurking | 15:07 |
| mordred | sdague: I do not have a laptop though | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | mordred: I hope you had a happy burning man | 15:10 |
| anteaya | or whatever the appropriate salutation is for the occasion | 15:10 |
| mordred | anteaya: just 'a happy burn' ... and yes, it was good | 15:10 |
| mordred | anteaya: although we're now enjoying a post-burn mexico beach :) | 15:11 |
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| jeblair | i saw an unusually high number of trucks and rvs with sofas strapped to their roofs heading west yesterday | 15:13 |
| anteaya | mordred: nice | 15:13 |
| anteaya | jeblair: ha ha ha | 15:14 |
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| jeblair | zaro, jesusaurus: i can't reproduce the bug you reported with gertty about needing alembic init; do you have some time this afternoon to walk me through how you installed it to see if we can reproduce? | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Stop minimizing service install for neutron func https://review.openstack.org/118380 | 15:31 |
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| marun | sdague, jeblair, clarkb, fungi ^^ | 15:32 |
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| marun | No more changes to infra repos for me until I learn to test properly. | 15:32 |
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| charz | hi guys, how to make sure the gerrt-jenkins plugin already get "recheck" event from "comment add"? | 15:48 |
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| zaro | morning | 15:52 |
| zaro | jeblair: yes, this is the bug about runing after install on MAC? | 15:53 |
| jeblair | zaro: yes. did you install it elsewhere and it worked? | 15:53 |
| jeblair | zaro: jesusaurus reported the bug but was not using osx | 15:53 |
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| zaro | jeblair: i cloned the project, created a virtualenv and then i believe "pip install ." i'll try again now to see if i repo. | 15:59 |
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| zaro | jeblair: IIRC i used the exact same steps on a precise VM and gertty ran without problems. | 16:01 |
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| jeblair | zaro: okay, exact commands along with python and pip versions may be helpful | 16:02 |
| jeblair | zaro: (the version of pip _inside_ the virtualenv) | 16:03 |
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| fungi | anteaya: rerunning manage-projects stackforge/radar went just fine. the syslog on review.o.o reported some weird results initially, something about "OperationalError: (2006, 'MySQL server has gone away')" | 16:03 |
| fungi | anteaya: i've added mikal to the groups mentioned in its acl | 16:03 |
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| fungi | anteaya: almost looks as if when puppet originally triggered the exec, manage-projects lost its socket to the database after connecting | 16:05 |
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| zaro | jeblair: can't upload files to storyboard :( so here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/104817 | 16:08 |
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| zaro | jeblair: pip 1.4.1 | 16:09 |
| zaro | jeblair: python 2.7.5 | 16:09 |
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| jeblair | zaro: you can paste them in as a comment | 16:11 |
| jeblair | zaro: oh. i'm glad you didn't. :) | 16:12 |
| jeblair | zaro: i think that got cut off. | 16:12 |
| sdague | mordred: no prob, there is a pbr / requirements unwind that's needed, but I think I can put all that together, enjoy the beach | 16:12 |
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| jesusaurus | jeblair: let me see if i can reproduce again. i think clarkb may have helped me by getting me to switch from "python setup.py install" to "pip install ." | 16:14 |
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| zaro | jeblair: i guess paste has a limit. try this https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/storyboard-issue-251 | 16:15 |
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| jeblair | jesusaurus: ok, that may make a difference. | 16:15 |
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| zaro | jesusaurus: pip install doesn't work for me. | 16:16 |
| sdague | so... here is the current issue with actually testing requirements integration on stable/havana - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117609/ | 16:16 |
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| sdague | pbr isn't branched, devstack-gate isn't branched, and there is no stable/havana ironic | 16:17 |
| jesusaurus | zaro: oh huh. i havent been using gertty regularly, so i dont remember if i resolved that issue or not | 16:17 |
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| sdague | so the havana version of that is actually trying to use ironic master | 16:17 |
| sdague | which is clearly wrong | 16:17 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus, zaro: you are on different platforms; there may be a behavior difference because of that | 16:17 |
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| anteaya | fungi: thanks | 16:17 |
| sdague | and it explodes because oslo.db is in ironic master, but not in stable/havana requirements | 16:17 |
| anteaya | fungi: hmmm | 16:17 |
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| fungi | sdague: weird... you saw where i pointed out that openstack/ironic is in the projects.txt within the stable/havana branch of openstack/requirements right | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add missing oslo projects to gerritbot config https://review.openstack.org/117309 | 16:18 |
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| sdague | fungi: apparently not | 16:19 |
| sdague | I guess we could purge that | 16:19 |
| jeblair | sdague: it seems like ironic should not be in sta... | 16:19 |
| jeblair | sdague: yeah what fungi said :) | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix typo - run gate/check against oslo.serialization-py33 https://review.openstack.org/116997 | 16:19 |
| jeblair | sdague: ++ | 16:19 |
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| fungi | sdague: was at 13:18 utc in scrollback, but probably got drowned out by other discussions | 16:19 |
| JayF | sdague: commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117384/ and jroll pushed a new patchset. Curious as to more details in your thoughts/ concerns so I can help resolve them | 16:21 |
| jeblair | zaro: what do you get when you run 'pip --version' from inside your venv? also 'python --version'? | 16:21 |
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| zaro | jeblair: pip 1.4.1 & python 2.7.5 | 16:22 |
| sdague | fungi: ah, sorry, I thought that was related to the other thing, and I missed it | 16:22 |
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| clarkb | are we ready to freeze some features? | 16:23 |
| sdague | JayF: so... I'm not sure that actually addresses my concerns. I guess I don't understand why devstack needs to understand ipa so deeply. Seems like the process should be | 16:24 |
| fungi | clarkb: the gate says... maybe | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add pypi publish jobs to subunit2sql https://review.openstack.org/118396 | 16:25 |
| sdague | wget ....ironic_agent-x.y.z.tar.gz && cd ironic_agent-x.y.z && make install PREFIX=where/do/I/want/this | 16:25 |
| sdague | basically I'm objecting to the fact that ironic agent has basically exported it's install interface to devstack, which seems pretty unfriendly | 16:25 |
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| JayF | You're saying you want an option or environment variable to determine where the build artifacts go? | 16:27 |
| sdague | I'm saying that software we pull externally should have installers | 16:28 |
| JayF | This /isn't/ an external software pull in this case | 16:28 |
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| JayF | this is explicitally for downloading and building custom ramdisks for IPA | 16:28 |
| JayF | there is already support in devstack for using prebuilt IPA ramdisks | 16:28 |
| JayF | and it looks a lot like wget && untar | 16:28 |
| JayF | this is adding support for testing *IPA* changes in devstack, which means we have to be able to build custom ramdisks using arbitrary git sha1 | 16:29 |
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| JayF | and it's made more complicated that there's going to be at least 3 different IPA ramdisks that can be built in very short order (ISO for iLO/Virtual media, DIB, and the existing CoreOS image) | 16:30 |
| clarkb | fungi it appears things are merging? but we are also in that monday load up zuul phase | 16:30 |
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| fungi | clarkb: yeah, things are merging, but the job failure probability in the gate is high-ish for the past week | 16:31 |
| clarkb | JayF uhm can we just do one? | 16:31 |
| JayF | clarkb: 'we' meaning who? | 16:31 |
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| clarkb | JayF every time we try to test X versions of Y where X>1 we stumble and cry | 16:31 |
| sdague | JayF: when I look at this code path it's a wget and then a ton of mucking around with internal directories | 16:31 |
| JayF | clarkb: in terms of what devstack will build and test, I sent an email out to the list a long time ago about this :( | 16:31 |
| clarkb | JayF devstack | 16:31 |
| JayF | and nobody ever reads the mailing list | 16:31 |
| JayF | let me dig it up | 16:31 |
| JayF | clarkb: sdague: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042357.html | 16:32 |
| anteaya | fungi: could you re-enable 10119varmourcivArmour cinerama openstack-ci-test@varmour.com please? emagana is comfortable hearing from them again | 16:32 |
| JayF | this was posted, nobody objected or even so much as responded at the time | 16:32 |
| fungi | anteaya: done | 16:33 |
| anteaya | fungi: and why do I keep getting cinerama in my pastes when I copy from the terminal | 16:33 |
| anteaya | fungi: thanks | 16:33 |
| JayF | I even thought you were in the room clarkb when we talked about that at the Ironic mid-cycle meetup? | 16:33 |
| anteaya | clarkb: you went to the ironic mid-cycle? | 16:34 |
| clarkb | I may have been but was working on the ironic from bm upgrade | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add config repo split spec https://review.openstack.org/110730 | 16:34 |
| clarkb | which is semi working now? adam_g how are things on that front | 16:35 |
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| clarkb | JayF there is zwro reason to support 3 different build imo | 16:35 |
| clarkb | you need a ramdisk how you get it doesnt matter much does it? | 16:35 |
| JayF | clarkb: first of all, two of them are beyond opinion: pxe and ISO are two different formats | 16:35 |
| anteaya | jeblair: did you hold off on +A on the spec to put puppet modules in their own repos for a reason? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ | 16:35 |
| clarkb | JayF that is just a convsrsion. . | 16:35 |
| JayF | clarkb: as far as ramdisk, the DIB vs the CoreOS ramdisks, the big difference is one is minimal, and used in testing | 16:36 |
| jeblair | anteaya: to ask for a last call for reviews in the meeting | 16:36 |
| JayF | the other contains a suite of tools useful to running in production | 16:36 |
| anteaya | jeblair: kk | 16:36 |
| JayF | I'm just a little confused as to why this is coming up now? We laid out this plan, emailed the mailing list about it, and have been working towards it for a month? | 16:36 |
| clarkb | JayF I compleyely missed it. just pointing out I see little value in exploding the matrix that way | 16:37 |
| sdague | JayF: because this is the first time I've seen any of this. You sent that email the day I went on vacation. | 16:37 |
| clarkb | you dont need it | 16:37 |
| clarkb | so why do it | 16:37 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add docs publishing spec https://review.openstack.org/110793 | 16:38 |
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| JayF | Slightly annoying to have to have this conversation at every different level :) | 16:38 |
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| clarkb | idealy tge same image would be used in prod and testing (which I have asked ironic to do for a long time) | 16:38 |
| sdague | anyway, I don't think devstack should know about the internals of every tarball we pull | 16:38 |
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| JayF | this isn't a tarball being pulled | 16:39 |
| JayF | this is an image, with code to be tested being built | 16:39 |
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| jroll | clarkb, sdague: here's the thing: we have multiple drivers for ironic. we think the right thing to do is do CI on those drivers. agree? | 16:39 |
| JayF | the purpose of that change is to explicitly allow checking (with tempest, against ironic) on agent changes | 16:39 |
| jroll | JayF: no, this is pulling master tarball that sean -1'd | 16:39 |
| sdague | JayF: wget "$IRONIC_AGENT_TARBALL" -O ironic_agent_tarball.tar.gz | 16:40 |
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| sdague | tar zxfv ironic_agent_tarball.tar.gz | 16:40 |
| clarkb | jroll no I honestly think we need ci on 1 because we dont have that. then we can worry about 3 | 16:40 |
| sdague | hoe is that not a tarball being pulled | 16:40 |
| jroll | clarkb: we have CI on 1. it's just not allowed to vote because politics | 16:40 |
| clarkb | no we dont | 16:40 |
| jroll | eh? | 16:40 |
| jroll | ironic has gate jobs with the pxe driver | 16:40 |
| clarkb | ironic tempest does not test the driver | 16:40 |
| clarkb | it doesnt | 16:40 |
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| JayF | we test the deploy driver, absolutely | 16:41 |
| jroll | I'm horribly mistaken somewhere then | 16:41 |
| JayF | just not a usable power driver (i.e. we use ssh power driver) | 16:41 |
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| jroll | if I break the pxe driver, tempest most definitely tells me I broke it | 16:41 |
| clarkb | we test ironic api in the gate with libvirt | 16:41 |
| jroll | I know that much | 16:41 |
| jroll | in the integrated gate, yes | 16:41 |
| clarkb | adam_g is working on using ironic as the driver | 16:41 |
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| clarkb | it isnt there yet | 16:41 |
| jroll | ironic, the project, has gate jobs that run tempest with ironic | 16:41 |
| jroll | doesn't it? | 16:41 |
| clarkb | iirc it does not | 16:42 |
| jroll | it's a single tempest test, but it's there | 16:42 |
| clarkb | because they dont work | 16:42 |
| jroll | check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic, I think | 16:42 |
| clarkb | it may have those tests but they dont gate | 16:42 |
| jroll | they gate ironic | 16:42 |
| JayF | I think you don't remember correctly :) | 16:42 |
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| jroll | they don't gate anywhere else | 16:42 |
| jroll | which is why ironic's gate is constantly being broken | 16:42 |
| JayF | let me find a merged review | 16:42 |
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| jroll | because people don't look at non-voting jobs | 16:42 |
| jroll | which is a whole different issue | 16:42 |
| clarkb | non voting == not gating | 16:43 |
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| JayF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116876/ | 16:43 |
| jroll | ok, I'm misunderstanding terminology | 16:43 |
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| JayF | http://logs.openstack.org/76/116876/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic/cbaf9db | 16:43 |
| jroll | it's voting on ironic, just not other projects | 16:43 |
| jroll | thing is | 16:43 |
| JayF | voting an gating on ironic | 16:43 |
| jroll | we landed the IPA driver in ironic | 16:43 |
| jroll | at the midcycle | 16:43 |
| jroll | it *still* does not have CI running for the ironic project | 16:43 |
| jroll | so, ironic changes can break that driver | 16:43 |
| jroll | this is a problem that can be fixed by a jenkins job running tempest against the IPA driver | 16:44 |
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| jroll | which this code is working toward | 16:44 |
| jroll | I've been working on that since the midcycle, but it's been hard to get reviews | 16:44 |
| JayF | ^ That is the timeframe when I sent that email I linked earlier. | 16:45 |
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| jroll | we've already had changes that break that driver, in ironic, that we had to go back and fix, because we can't get CI working | 16:45 |
| clarkb | JayF ok ironic is gated but still often broken because it isnt an integrated gate job. I am arguing that needs to be solved | 16:45 |
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| JayF | clarkb: we're trying to solve that same problem one level back for our IPA driver | 16:46 |
| sdague | so the crux of my issue is that the output of the post job should be something that has a more stable install interface if it's going to be consumed by another job, like a make install target. | 16:46 |
| JayF | Tell me exactly what format you want that output in | 16:46 |
| JayF | and I'll go change the post jobs, all the docs, and all the existing patches in to use it | 16:46 |
| jroll | sdague: my problem is that the 'make install' target would be specific to devstack | 16:46 |
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| jroll | or just be a cp with some variables | 16:46 |
| JayF | it's just a tarball with files inside, I'm -1 to adding a Makefile to it | 16:47 |
| sdague | jroll: how is IPA expected to be consumed in the real world | 16:47 |
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| jroll | sdague: as a ramdisk | 16:47 |
| jroll | and a kernel | 16:47 |
| jroll | this is both, packaged as a tarball | 16:47 |
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| JayF | jroll: sdague: but large deployments of IPA will build their own ramdisk, with their own hardware manager | 16:47 |
| jroll | sdague: in the real world, I'd argue deployers will build their own ^ yeah that | 16:47 |
| sdague | but what about regular people? | 16:48 |
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| JayF | you cease to be a regular person when you're deploying fleets of bare metal with an API :P | 16:48 |
| JayF | haha | 16:48 |
| jroll | they could pull this tarball, extract it, put the kernel/ramdisk in glance | 16:48 |
| jroll | which is how this devstack code does it | 16:48 |
| JayF | but a 'small' installation of ironic would do just what jroll ^^ said | 16:48 |
| sdague | jroll: ok, so I argue that should be an installer... in the tarball | 16:48 |
| jroll | sdague: a script to add it to glance? | 16:49 |
| sdague | because punting to the user of 'here is a tarball, go copy files around, etc, maybe you won't misread this instructions and it will work' is terrible | 16:49 |
| jroll | sdague: the instructions are "put these two images in glance" | 16:49 |
| fungi | jroll: part of the concern is that if you go changing internal implementation details of your distribution format, you have to land new changes to devstack to account for them rather than just changes to ipa | 16:50 |
| sdague | right... which is *exactly* what happened | 16:50 |
| jroll | sdague: better docs would be great, but this is a subset of the installation instructions for the current driver thing | 16:50 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117384/2/lib/ironic | 16:50 |
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| jroll | fungi, sdague, we are going to have voting CI based on this stuff. but we're working toward that | 16:50 |
| sdague | you changed the internals, and now have to land devstack changes because ipa punted on an installer | 16:50 |
| jroll | no | 16:50 |
| JayF | sdague: actually I don't think the internals changed, I think the original patch never worked :( | 16:50 |
| jroll | we have to land devstack changes to enable us to actually use this for CI | 16:51 |
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| jroll | JayF: no, the build scripts changed | 16:51 |
| sdague | JayF: well, more importantly, devstack should never have know about the internals here. If you want this consumed by something else, put an install script in it | 16:51 |
| jroll | I mean | 16:51 |
| jroll | I'm fine with never wget'ing this | 16:51 |
| jroll | and just always build from source | 16:51 |
| sdague | I actually have no idea why this seems controversial | 16:51 |
| jroll | but ironic folks would prefer to not do that for ironic jobs | 16:52 |
| JayF | I am just confused | 16:52 |
| fungi | JayF: having something within that tarball which makes decisions on how and where it's installed saves you time and effort down the road, because you don't have to land changes to devstack to adjust that | 16:53 |
| fungi | JayF: rather than encoding into devstack details on what the contents of the tarball will be | 16:53 |
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| JayF | Installer is basically a configured glance and glanceclient :) | 16:54 |
| JayF | heh | 16:54 |
| JayF | I could do this: | 16:54 |
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| fungi | JayF: right now, you untar this arbitrary blob and then move two files into place on the system. later if you add a third file to the tarball, you need to change devstack to know where to put it | 16:54 |
| JayF | a file manifest, in the tarball, that set IPA_KERNEL="" and RAMDISK_KERNEL="" when sourced | 16:54 |
| JayF | variables that then devstack would used | 16:55 |
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| jroll | so, to be clear, the suggestion is to duplicate this code inside ironic-python-agent repo: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/ironic#L612-628 | 16:55 |
| JayF | I don't forsee us needing a third file, but I get your general point. Just honestly a little taken aback at the desire for an installer for, what essentially is a glance images | 16:55 |
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| JayF | Hmm. Maybe that's the better question to ask | 16:56 |
| sdague | JayF: it's glance images nested in a really odd arbitrary place, in a tarball that doesn't seem to follow the basic rules that foo-x.y.z.tar.gz untars into foo-x.y.z/ | 16:56 |
| sdague | so it feels really gross from an integration point | 16:57 |
| JayF | sdague: The location of the files in the tarball is strange, and I'm willing to change it if it allieviates the concern | 16:57 |
| JayF | I'm just trying to figure out what knob to turn | 16:57 |
| JayF | and hoping that knob isn't 'you need an installer to package glance images' | 16:57 |
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| jroll | sdague: if the "install script" put the files in $IRONIC_DEPLOY_KERNEL_PATH, would that be better? | 16:58 |
| jroll | sdague: that doesn't help with "if a third file comes along", but | 16:58 |
| jroll | sdague: (that variable comes from https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/ironic#L573 etc) | 16:59 |
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| fungi | JayF: providing the files in a way that their urls can be fed directly into devstack's tools/upload_image.sh like all the other glance images would probably help | 16:59 |
| fungi | jroll: ^ | 16:59 |
| JayF | let me look at that then | 16:59 |
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| jroll | fungi: that's not how ironic uploads things already :| | 16:59 |
| sdague | jroll: honestly, make install PREFIX=$TOP_DIR/files/ is probably the right thing, and it copies the content there | 16:59 |
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| jroll | fungi: not entirely sure why | 17:00 |
| jroll | sdague: we allow users to override that location, but that's the default | 17:00 |
| jroll | but... that works too | 17:00 |
| sdague | jroll: sure, though in reality is there really a reason to let people override that? | 17:00 |
| jroll | sdague: yes, if the user wants to use there own ramdisk, it won't be overwritten | 17:01 |
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| jroll | sdague: so I don't see the point in copying them to a custom location, but they may have left it in localrc or what have you | 17:01 |
| JayF | fungi: does that mean you would want us to upload the kernel and ramdisk without wrapping them in a tarball? that actually seems like a really sensible thing, and it'd be compatible with that script and more allow passing around of URLs instead of futzing about on the filesystem | 17:01 |
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| jroll | sdague: that bit of the code hasn't changed, since we've been working on ironic, fwiw | 17:01 |
| JayF | We really should just eliminate the tarball. It does no good whatever. Kernel and ramdisk already compressed | 17:02 |
| sdague | jroll: sure, I'd just say if you are going to parametrize things I'd make a var for $TOP_DIR/files/ so that would be the override bit, not the file paths directly. As you always need both. | 17:02 |
| JayF | jroll: how are those uploaded to glance? Do you do a call to glance for the ramdisk and for the kernel separately? | 17:03 |
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| jroll | JayF: somewhat agree, although that won't eliminate the upload to glance code as we still need it for built-from-source ramdisks | 17:03 |
| jroll | JayF: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/ironic#L612-628 | 17:03 |
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| JayF | Yeah but it does make things make a lot more sense | 17:03 |
| JayF | and elminiates this arbitrary intermediary which seems to be the source of pain | 17:04 |
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| jroll | sdague: yeah, like I said, that stuff already exists, not sure if it's being used elsewhere e.g. devstack-gate, so need to look | 17:04 |
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| sdague | jroll: ok, sure, that's fine | 17:04 |
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| jroll | JayF: yeah, I suppose I'm +1 on uploading separate files | 17:04 |
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| JayF | sdague: fungi: Completely elminating the tarball and uploading the kernel/ramdisk separately for consumption by devstack (in the non-build case) a sufficient resolution for you? | 17:05 |
| jroll | and then just wget https://...kernel -o $TOP_DIR/files/...kernel | 17:06 |
| fungi | JayF: i was making suggestions based on the existing standardized interfaces for glance image handling in devstack. i'm not core on devstack (that's less an infra thing, more a qa thing) so take that for what it's worth | 17:06 |
| JayF | fungi: it was a valuable suggestion :) | 17:06 |
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| fungi | JayF: it ties into how nodepool knows what files to predownload and cache for worker snapshots, so seems relevant | 17:07 |
| jroll | fungi: I'm going to take a look there, I might agree with you | 17:07 |
| jroll | yep, +1 | 17:08 |
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| fungi | vponomaryov: you seem to be in manila-core... are you around today at 1900 utc? i noticed that the program application was approved last week, so want to talk about timeline for moving the manila projects from stackforge into the openstack namespace | 17:13 |
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| JayF | sdague: is using individual files instead of a group tarball going to allay your concerns about those patches? | 17:16 |
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| anteaya | nibalizer: you available to reply to my comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100363/ | 17:18 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: it will be discussed at today's infra meeting | 17:18 |
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| fungi | JayF: sdague: going that route, presumably you'd want to add them to the IMAGE_URLS envvar so they can be fed through the upload_image like the rest | 17:21 |
| fungi | er, through the upload_image function | 17:21 |
| JayF | jroll: ^ | 17:21 |
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| fungi | that allows nodepool prep scripts to find them with devstack's tools/image_list.sh too | 17:22 |
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| jeblair | fungi: ++ | 17:23 |
| jeblair | zaro: can you try installing from a fresh clone instead of an existing checkout? | 17:23 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: sure np | 17:27 |
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| anteaya | nibalizer: thanks | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Multiple Data Dirs proposal https://review.openstack.org/100363 | 17:36 |
| nibalizer | anteaya: done | 17:36 |
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| anteaya | thanks | 17:38 |
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| anteaya | nibalizer: i'm grateful | 17:39 |
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| pleia2 | anteaya: thanks for the comments on my infra-manual patch, let me know if I can help nudge that project along in any way | 17:47 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: maybe one of us should blog about it? | 17:48 |
| clarkb | jeblair: fungi: ttx do we need to soft freeze around feature freeze? or just rc time? | 17:48 |
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| clarkb | I am about to jump into code review and don't want to surprise anyone | 17:48 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: just rc i think | 17:48 |
| anteaya | pleia2: my sense is the hold up is about a style guide | 17:49 |
| anteaya | pleia2: is that what you are referencing? | 17:49 |
| fungi | clarkb: i think being judicious about not landing possibly severe breakage before the milestone is cut can't hurt, but i've not really been too worried | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add order column to run table https://review.openstack.org/117861 | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add subunit2sql-db-manage utility https://review.openstack.org/118418 | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add session objects for get_all* db api calls https://review.openstack.org/118419 | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: I was thinking content, had kind of forgotten about the style guide :) maybe we should add style guide to the meeting today | 17:49 |
| anteaya | pleia2: if so, well I think some direction on thoughts about a style guide could help | 17:49 |
| fungi | clarkb: the projects are breaking themselves plenty already, so it's unlikely we could make it a whole lot worse | 17:49 |
| anteaya | pleia2: sure, I'm blocked on the style guide, and don't have any ideas, since I haven't had the head space to think | 17:50 |
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| clarkb | fungi: sounds good | 17:50 |
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| pleia2 | anteaya: ok, adding now | 17:50 |
| Ajaeger1 | pleia2, anteaya: check the documentation conventions as base for a style guide: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Conventions | 17:50 |
| anteaya | pleia2: I think once we can agree on style then I will have more inclination to provide content, review content and encourage others | 17:50 |
| anteaya | pleia2: I think my reviews are up to date there, with the exception of teh style guide | 17:51 |
| anteaya | pleia2: thanks | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add db api function to get the latest run https://review.openstack.org/117882 | 17:51 |
| anteaya | Ajaeger1: that is the point, I haven't had time | 17:51 |
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| Ajaeger1 | anteaya: Ah, that problem ;( | 17:51 |
| anteaya | Ajaeger1: I saw the link but haven't been able to follow it up | 17:51 |
| anteaya | Ajaeger1: yeah, that problem | 17:51 |
| clarkb | jeblair: new gertty scrunches the url links for job results in comments even though my terminal is super wide. is that something that we can wrap on white space boundaries if wide enough? | 17:51 |
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| anteaya | I really don't care, as long as contributors contribute and the style is consistent | 17:52 |
| Ajaeger1 | anteaya: if there's anything the documentation team can help regarding style guide, just tell me or annegent_ | 17:52 |
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| anteaya | I would like to not have blinking things, but that so far is my only rule | 17:52 |
| pleia2 | Ajaeger1: the link was useful, but I think we were struggling more with usage of bold, italics, headings | 17:52 |
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| anteaya | Ajaeger1: thanks | 17:52 |
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| pleia2 | rather than "voice" and terms | 17:52 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: yes exactly | 17:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb: what job? | 17:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb: (i think job results should be < 80 chars | 17:53 |
| jeblair | ) | 17:53 |
| Ajaeger1 | pleia2: yeah, that was some discussion. Still, why not raise that issue with the documentation team to come up with a common style? | 17:53 |
| pleia2 | Ajaeger1: yeah, that's a good idea :) | 17:53 |
| anteaya | pleia2: do you want to do that? | 17:53 |
| anteaya | pleia2: you had more of a sense of what you were looking for from style than myself | 17:53 |
| clarkb | jeblair: for example on 118069 the postgres-full job link wraps oddly | 17:53 |
| anteaya | pleia2: happy to review to those guidelines, as long as we have some | 17:53 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: I'd like to get input from our team (at meeting today) and then perhaps take it to the docs folks | 17:53 |
| anteaya | pleia2: sounds good | 17:54 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i don't see it wrapping. | 17:54 |
| clarkb | huh maybe I need to update my install | 17:55 |
| clarkb | http://logs.openstack.org/69/118069/1/check/cLINEBREAKheck-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/8c4d4ca : SUCCESS in 1h 16m 12s is what I have | 17:55 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: oh, you need to update your yaml config file | 17:56 |
| fungi | clarkb: oddly enough, it does *not* seem to even need to wrap in my 80-column terminal (though i'm still on 11bdd67 so not sure if you're talking about some newer behavior) | 17:56 |
| jeblair | clarkb: 118370 is my branch tip, and it should have an updated config file in the repo | 17:56 |
| clarkb | jeblair: thanks | 17:56 |
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| fungi | hrm, yeah even gertty master has moved on from the commit i'm using. i too should update ;) | 17:57 |
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| clarkb | I am now running with 118370 (assuming pip install -e did the right thing the first time around) | 18:01 |
| clarkb | and have copied the bits of config that are new | 18:01 |
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| clarkb | and wow that is nice | 18:01 |
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| fungi | yeah, working on that now | 18:02 |
| clarkb | and the WIP filtering | 18:02 |
| jeblair | thanks :) i think it's just about ready for a 1.0 release and announcement. i'm trying very hard to reproduce the alembic problem because i'd rather not release it with something like that | 18:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Fix cloner test https://review.openstack.org/116053 | 18:03 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: using '?' for help seems to have broken though | 18:05 |
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| clarkb | f1 still works | 18:05 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: oh thanks! | 18:05 |
| jeblair | probably lost that in the keymap patch | 18:05 |
| fungi | clarkb: h works now though | 18:05 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh, did ? ever work? | 18:06 |
| jeblair | (i thought we only had 2 bindings for it) | 18:06 |
| fungi | (the help screen only mentions F1 and h, not ?) | 18:06 |
| fungi | but yes, ? was working in earlier iterations | 18:06 |
| clarkb | yes ? was a valid help key | 18:06 |
| jeblair | did i switch 'h' for '?' :) | 18:06 |
| fungi | that was my assumption | 18:06 |
| clarkb | oh I see that works too | 18:06 |
| jeblair | i believe that was an accident if i did | 18:06 |
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| fungi | i like the listing of projects with unreviewed changes | 18:07 |
| fungi | some day i will get some of those again ;) | 18:07 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus, zaro: i put install steps i'm using in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/storyboard-issue-251 | 18:07 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus, zaro: i can't reproduce the problem on precise or trusty | 18:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Cloner: default to ZUUL_BRANCH https://review.openstack.org/116098 | 18:08 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus, zaro: i even tried "python setup.py install" instead of "pip install ." and it still worked | 18:08 |
| clarkb | fungi: 116527 is ready for approval whenever meetings are not happening | 18:08 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: ^ in case you have any insight | 18:08 |
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| fungi | clarkb: noted, i'll try to catch that but, erm, today is probably not going to be a day where that will be possible | 18:08 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I don't I have always had working gertty installs except for that one time you forgot a migration file | 18:08 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya | 18:09 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: have you had any problems with gertty related to alembic on osx? | 18:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add zm04 https://review.openstack.org/117908 | 18:09 |
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| jeblair | dhellmann: also, if you see that "an integer is required" bug again, and you happen to be running in debug mode "-d", can you save the log so we can figure out what was happening at the time of the crash? | 18:10 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: (and if not, remembering what screen you were on at the time may be helpful) | 18:10 |
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| dhellmann | jeblair: I've seen the integer screen on the main project list and on the list of reviews within a project, I think | 18:10 |
| fungi | i'll get to building zm04 after the meeting (maybe after dinner) | 18:10 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: but now that I'm home again, I've been using the web UI for reviews so I haven't seen it again | 18:11 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: aha, that's helpful. i left my gerttys running all weekend on a change view thinking that was the page it crashed on. i'll move my laptop to a review list and let it sit there. | 18:11 |
| fungi | we agreed to just do a 4gb flavor for zm04 (and eventually rebuild 1-3 as 4gb) right? | 18:11 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i think that's best, yeah. i'm not sure i want to try to run >1 merger process | 18:11 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: sorry if I didn't provide that detail in the bug report :-/ | 18:11 |
| pleia2 | can someone create a using_your_own branch in Gerrit for yolanda? see: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118111/ | 18:12 |
| pleia2 | in publications | 18:12 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, we'd have to provide separate git roots for them, for starters (to avoid collisions) | 18:12 |
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| fungi | pleia2: i created the branches she asked for this morning (cut and pasted from her comment in irc) | 18:12 |
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| fungi | pleia2: i think she asked for that to have hyphens rather than underscores | 18:13 |
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| pleia2 | fungi: ah ok, I'll leave a comment accordingly in the review (it was still pushed to template) | 18:13 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: fungi: agreed. splitting them on one node will be dirty | 18:13 |
| clarkb | too many repos and vhosts and all the things | 18:14 |
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| jeblair | fungi: also ++ on hyphens; the other branches have them | 18:15 |
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| zaro | jeblair: yeah, worked on precise for me. my precise VM has python 2.7.3, pip 1.0 and alembic 0.6.5 | 18:16 |
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| pleia2 | btw, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98906/ is an easy one to review that will help us with how to do publications :) | 18:17 |
| zaro | jeblair: on my mac it's alembic 0.6.6, could that be a problem? | 18:17 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: did you ever see something like alembic.util.CommandError: Path doesn't exist: '/Users/khaido/workspace/gertty/venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gertty/alembic'. Please use the 'init' command to create a new scripts folder. | 18:17 |
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| clarkb | Ajaeger1: 116805 why do we need to have doc utils use global requirements? | 18:17 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: I didn't. I run gertty in a virtualenv, if that makes any difference. | 18:18 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: that path looks like a venv, too | 18:18 |
| wenlock | clarkb may i add you on this review I submitted for install_module.sh ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117892/ | 18:18 |
| jeblair | yeah, and that's reproducible for zaro, but i can't figure out what's causing it | 18:18 |
| jeblair | oh! | 18:18 |
| jeblair | zaro: for some reason there is an alembic.ini in your working directory (the root of the gertty checkout) | 18:19 |
| clarkb | wenlock: yup | 18:19 |
| wenlock | clarkb, ty | 18:19 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: is there an empty scripts folder in git? | 18:19 |
| jeblair | zaro: can you repeat the installation with a new clone of gertty -- don't use your existing checkout | 18:19 |
| Ajaeger1 | clarkb: See my comment at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116708/ | 18:20 |
| Ajaeger1 | clarkb: When I set this up, I was under the impression "it's the proper way" ;) | 18:20 |
| zaro | jeblair: will try | 18:20 |
| clarkb | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117643/ is somewhat important as far as functional puppet module updates go | 18:20 |
| Ajaeger1 | clarkb: Now I love the automatic syncing of the update job... | 18:20 |
| clarkb | jeblair: we will need that in before your change to disable storyboard message queue things can go in | 18:21 |
| clarkb | jeblair: oh wait it merged nevermind | 18:21 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: there's http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/gertty/tree/gertty/alembic | 18:21 |
| clarkb | we no I am confusing myself, that change does need review | 18:21 |
| Ajaeger1 | clarkb: so, I hope that sdague answers my comment and clarifies how to move forward... | 18:21 |
| clarkb | Ajaeger1: ok, so its a convenience thing without necessarily needing to strictly follow the requirements | 18:21 |
| Ajaeger1 | clarkb: Yes, convenience | 18:22 |
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| dhellmann | jeblair: ok, I thought maybe you needed a .placeholder file in scripts to make sure it exists, but if there's a bad config file in zaro's copy of the source then that could explain it all | 18:22 |
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| * krotscheck is back btw. | 18:23 | |
| * krotscheck is catching up with all the things. | 18:23 | |
| marcusvrn | asselin__: hi! I fixed the "publish_host" link with your repository! thxx. The problem now is that failed jobs are not publishing the logs...is it the correct behavior? | 18:23 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: welcome back! | 18:23 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, great! I'm not sure why the failed tests don't publish logs.... | 18:24 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Thanks! I hear the world exploded? | 18:24 |
| zaro | jeblair: ahh, ok now it works. | 18:24 |
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| asselin__ | marcusvrn, double-check the settings in the jnekins job | 18:24 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: i heard it was burned :) | 18:25 |
| sdague | Ajaeger1: so I think the requirements conversation about what goes into projects.txt is probably a follow on | 18:25 |
| jeblair | zaro: cool, thanks. | 18:25 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus: we found the problem on zaro's install (he had an alembic.ini file in his cwd which should not have been there). let me know if you are able to reproduce | 18:25 |
| Ajaeger1 | sdague: I'm fine doing this in steps ;) | 18:26 |
| zaro | jeblair: i noticed that alembic.ini gets generated when i ran the bad clone of gertty | 18:26 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Right. First there was an earthquake, then there was a flood, and then there was a fire. | 18:27 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: main thing is there seems to be a problem with storyboard losing its connection to rabbit. there's a change to disable events but that hasn't been applied due to bugs in the puppet module install script. | 18:27 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Righto | 18:27 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: So step one: Fix puppet. Step 2: fix rabbit | 18:27 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: i think there's a bug filed about rabbit problem, with traceback, etc. | 18:28 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: why don't we follow the patten in install_modules that we developed in gerrit_git_prep? | 18:28 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Yeah, there’s a quick fix by simply disabling the timeout in rabbit’s configuration, however I’d like to investigate exactly _why_ it’s complaining. | 18:28 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: also, why it's not reconnecting may be helpful (in case it is disconnected for other reasons in the future) | 18:29 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i feel like if we don't, we'll probably just re-invent it again :/ | 18:29 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Ayup. | 18:29 |
| clarkb | jeblair: meaning using clean, reset, and fetches? | 18:29 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: do you think 'git checkout origin/master' will track the way we want? | 18:31 |
| clarkb | jeblair: with the git remote update, yes. The one exception may be that we need to clean if we change the branch/tag/sha | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Cloner: add upgrade test https://review.openstack.org/116105 | 18:32 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: what about that rev-list check? | 18:32 |
| clarkb | jeblair: the rev list check will continue to work. It is there ot make sure we only checkout if we need to | 18:32 |
| clarkb | jeblair: which may be redundant because git | 18:32 |
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| clarkb | basically my change was as minimal as I thought required, but we could look at it again and do it more like ggp | 18:33 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: well, it's broken anyway, so +3. but the _next_ time it breaks, we should probably use an existing pattern. :) | 18:33 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: can you address why we wouldn't support p3k as universal wheels in oslo? | 18:34 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ++ | 18:34 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: it uses different requirements which to me is a major bug | 18:34 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: I don't have enough context to understand the question. | 18:34 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: new mail thread I will link | 18:34 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Cloner: add project-specific branch overrides https://review.openstack.org/116125 | 18:34 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/044663.html | 18:35 |
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| dhellmann | clarkb: I think we just didn't have enough projects supporting python 3 to worry about it initially | 18:35 |
| dhellmann | I don't think there was a reason we wanted not to, so much as a reason we didn't think we were ready to do it | 18:35 |
| clarkb | mox3 supports py2.7, we hsould just use it everywhere... | 18:36 |
| clarkb | (and 2.6) | 18:36 |
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| dhellmann | we're trying to get everyone to use mock instead of mox, but where mox is in use mox3 is the desired replacement | 18:36 |
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| clarkb | I see | 18:36 |
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| ttx | clarkb: I think it's good to softfreeze at least this week, maybe the next | 18:37 |
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| clarkb | ttx: its too late I already approved a d-g thing :P (it was a low impact chang either way) | 18:38 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: why doesn't the universal wheel work for python 3? | 18:38 |
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| clarkb | dhellmann: according to that thread because the requirements lists are different. | 18:39 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: which should be fixed by using the same requirements. I am writing a response now | 18:39 |
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| dhellmann | clarkb: does mox3 work for python 2? | 18:39 |
| clarkb | yup | 18:40 |
| clarkb | at least according to pypi.python.org | 18:40 |
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| dhellmann | I'd be happy to have everything building versions that can be used everywhere, but we do have some real requirements differences for py2/3 in some libs (messaging's use of eventlet comes to mind) | 18:40 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: so my major concern with that is we will be shipping completely untested software | 18:41 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: ? | 18:41 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: at least compared to the level of testing that the universal stuff gets today | 18:41 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, that discussion started in here over the weekend and i suggested it needed a wider (non-weekend) audience | 18:41 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: take messaging for example. It will not be integration tested against py3k until all the things run py3k | 18:41 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: however a universal wheel will be tested | 18:41 |
| dhellmann | it will only be tested against python 2, though, because it won't be installable for python 3 | 18:42 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: if it is universal it is the same wheel | 18:42 |
| clarkb | so we will know that the install works | 18:42 |
| dhellmann | only for python 2, because eventlet doesn't work for 3 | 18:42 |
| dhellmann | unless they've finished their port | 18:42 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: right I am saying messaging shouldn't do that | 18:42 |
| clarkb | or at least should accept the difference in testing | 18:42 |
| clarkb | and that doing a separate wheel is more challenging than just updating an upload script | 18:43 |
| clarkb | we gain a lot of simplicity with universal wheels | 18:43 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: maybe you should write this up on the ML so I can study what you're proposing | 18:43 |
| dhellmann | I don't have any specific objections, I'm just not sure I understand the nuances | 18:43 |
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| dhellmann | I'd also like to understand why we're doing what we are doing now, because I assume we did that for some reason (although maybe it was just "we're not ready to worry about python 3 yet", as I suggested earlier) | 18:44 |
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| fungi | at the moment, we lack automation which can upload multiple separate wheels for different interpreters on the same project/release (though i'm sure that's not insurmountable) | 18:44 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: we did, iirc you and mordred decided to do it that way to make sure things actually work | 18:44 |
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| yolanda | pleia2, fungi created a pair of branches | 18:44 |
| yolanda | i still haven't had time to use that | 18:45 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: because we can check that with the python2 side of a universal wheel very easily | 18:45 |
| pleia2 | yolanda: gotcha, just making sure you're on the right track :) | 18:45 |
| pleia2 | fossetcon is creeping up fast | 18:45 |
| yolanda | pleia2, thx | 18:45 |
| yolanda | have you been able to take a look at my 2 publications? one for Fossetcon and the other one for Pycon. What do you think? | 18:46 |
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| pleia2 | yolanda: which is the fossetcon one? I'll prioritize | 18:46 |
| yolanda | i had to buy a ticket for Pycon UK, event speakers pay | 18:46 |
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| yolanda | the CI workflow one | 18:46 |
| pleia2 | that's unpleasant | 18:46 |
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| pleia2 | ok cool, I'll have a look today | 18:46 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: ok, like I said, I'd like to work it out on the ML so I have time to actually grok what you're telling me without a FF deadline looming | 18:47 |
| yolanda | pleia2, a discount ticket but yes, i had a request to purchase the ticket | 18:47 |
| krotscheck | jeblair nibalizer: I’d like to add puppet-storyboard to storyboard. Any objections? | 18:47 |
| fungi | clarkb: dhellmann: probably best to just follow up to YorikSar's ml post | 18:47 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: yup I am drafting a response | 18:47 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: cool, thanks | 18:47 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: but the comment about messaging helps because I didn't think about that | 18:47 |
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| pleia2 | yolanda: heh, there was one conference where they wanted me to pay as a speaker, I told them I wouldn't (already traveling across the country to speak at their event, then I have to pay for the privilege?) | 18:48 |
| yolanda | pleia2, i'm presenting in Fossetcon on friday afternoon, maybe if we meet before i can show you my talk a bit to get your opinion | 18:48 |
| fungi | clarkb: i'd have suggested using mox3 for 2.x as well if i realized it was supported... i assumed we were stuck using mox on 2.x and mox3 on py3k until mock could be brought in to replace them | 18:48 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think we can use mox3 for both | 18:48 |
| clarkb | at least that is what I am going to propose | 18:49 |
| nibalizer | krotscheck: do et | 18:49 |
| dhellmann | clarkb, fungi : I see "ceilometer keystone marconi oslo.concurrency oslo-incubator oslo.messaging oslo.rootwrap oslotest zaqar" as having python 3 requirements files | 18:49 |
| fungi | clarkb: if so, then i agree it's a great option | 18:49 |
| pleia2 | yolanda: sure, I'm getting in Wednesday night (speaking at Ubucon on Thursday too), so I'll have plenty of time | 18:49 |
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| yolanda | pleia2, cool | 18:49 |
| clarkb | fungi: and its simple for this particular case, then we can expand and think about the cases like messaging where this is actually required | 18:49 |
| pleia2 | looks like my talk is last thing on Saturday | 18:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add puppet-storyboard to storyboard https://review.openstack.org/118435 | 18:50 |
| yolanda | yes, i saw the schedule | 18:50 |
| yolanda | you are closing :) | 18:50 |
| pleia2 | darn it, I'm speaking at the same time as Rikki Endsley AGAIN | 18:50 |
| yolanda | who's RIkki? | 18:50 |
| yolanda | popular topic? | 18:50 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, i'd like to see us avoid using separate wheels if the only reason they're separated is test-requires.txt differences (but if it's for requirements.txt, well that's another kettle of fish) | 18:50 |
| pleia2 | a friend who I'm always talking at the same time as :) | 18:50 |
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| pleia2 | 3rd time in a row | 18:51 |
| fungi | pleia2: and then he never gets to attend your talks and vice versa. you should lodge a formal complaint | 18:51 |
| pleia2 | fungi: she, yeah :) | 18:52 |
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| fungi | er, she | 18:52 |
| yolanda | pleai2, but that's on different conferences with different organizers, right? | 18:52 |
| pleia2 | yolanda: yep, lousy coincidence (or conspiracy!) | 18:52 |
| morganfainberg | so maybe someone can help me out a little. I'm strugging with pbr-isms, it seems like PBR doesn't hook into all of the actions that setup.py can perform (e.g. develop, etc) - or at least i can't get hooks to fire for those. is that... expected? is that a design limitation or a setuptools+pbr limitation? | 18:52 |
| yolanda | pleia2, maybe she is silently asking to speak at the same time as you :) | 18:52 |
| pleia2 | lol | 18:52 |
| pleia2 | best excuse ever for skipping my talk ;) | 18:53 |
| * morganfainberg knows mordred is not around atm or i'd just bug him. | 18:53 | |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: it is somewhat expected. The idea is you should be using pip for those actions and not setup.py directly | 18:53 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: if you pip install -e for example that should work with pbr | 18:53 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: and that is basically setup.py develop | 18:54 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, right but it still doesn't fire the pre-/post hooks | 18:54 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: adding puppet-storyboard to storyboard sounds good to me | 18:54 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, develop seems to skip that functionality completely, can't specify [develop] in setupcfg, and none of the [builds] are called (well build_ext, but this isn't a c/external build thing and it gets wonky) | 18:55 |
| nibalizer | i have to grab lunch real fast, so i will be joining the meeting late, sorry! | 18:55 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb, i think i'm asking pbr to do something it wasn't intended to do | 18:55 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: oh you may be trailblazing here | 18:55 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: ya that may be | 18:55 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, yeah was tying to make sample config built on demand when you run setup :) | 18:55 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, so we (keystone) can drop it from our tree but still easily provide it when someone wants it | 18:56 |
| morganfainberg | common use case, pip -e | 18:56 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, all the setuptools seems very... in consistent on what the different actions provide. so like i said, might be waaaaay off in the weeds where no one has been yet :) | 18:57 |
| clarkb | dstufft: may have ideas ^ | 18:57 |
| dstufft | wat | 18:57 |
| morganfainberg | if i can get it to work, i'll propose that fix across the projects, way better than how we do samples in like 5 different ways right now :) | 18:58 |
| dstufft | oh goody | 18:58 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, trying to make the sample config generated when setup install is run (or setup develop) | 18:58 |
| dstufft | setup.py develop is like 12 layers of hack | 18:58 |
| dstufft | ontop of the other 20 layers of hacks | 18:58 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, but i think pbr doesn't know how to hook into develop easily | 18:58 |
| timrc | Question: I have a bash function I'd like to share between similar jobs, where's the best place to put it so I'm not re-defining it for each job? | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, among other things. | 18:59 |
| clarkb | timrc: in a macro then you refer to the macro by name where you need it | 18:59 |
| timrc | Maybe the slave puppet config? | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | i'm guessing this is a dark dark path | 18:59 |
| dstufft | morganfainberg: I'd have to dig into setuptools and pbr to know for sure, my guess is setup.py develop is just broken/wrong | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, wouldn't surprise me. | 18:59 |
| fungi | timrc: for jobs which run against different projects or a common project? | 18:59 |
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| fungi | meeting time, once keystone wraps theirs | 19:00 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, i'll keep hacking on it, i got fairly close it just is real inconsistent, if i have a definitive answer that can be fixed in pbr, i'll post up some code. or if i can do it w/o hacking up anything i'll run it by you/clarkb see if we like it before i go propose it around projects. | 19:00 |
| fungi | clarkb: can a builder macro export a variable/function which gets called by later bash scripts? | 19:00 |
| timrc | clarkb, Ah okay, so if I use a macro then that it's own build step, I wouldn't be able to use it inside a build step? This is probably not going to be a problem, just sating my own curiosity ;) | 19:01 |
| jeblair | fungi: build steps are completely independent in jenkins | 19:01 |
| fungi | that's what i thought | 19:01 |
| clarkb | for exporting vars like that you need to use an env plugin to modify env | 19:01 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, but it is looking like there is some voodoo involved here. | 19:01 |
| fungi | so a macro in jjb isn't really a solution for reusing bash functions *if* they need to be called from within another builder | 19:01 |
| yolanda | pleia2, ok, pushed to the right branches | 19:02 |
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| pleia2 | yolanda: thanks :) | 19:02 |
| dstufft | morganfainberg: packaging is basically a a collection of vodoo | 19:03 |
| morganfainberg | dstufft, i noticed :( | 19:04 |
| timrc | fungi, Different projects... it's a utility function that they'll all use to do validation | 19:04 |
| fungi | timrc: ahh, okay. otherwise i was just going to suggest sourcing a common script from that project, but not an option here either | 19:04 |
| timrc | fungi, I think I need to install a utility script in the ~jenkin's HOME_DIR and source it from the various jobs | 19:05 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Ensure dict orders are deterministic https://review.openstack.org/107063 | 19:06 |
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| dstufft | clarkb: btw I forget if I told y'all or if you all noticed, but PEP 440 is final now, so no more changes to it | 19:23 |
| dstufft | other then clarifications or whatever | 19:23 |
| clarkb | cool | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | I will have to reread though pbr mostly follows those rules | 19:24 |
| dstufft | there's https://packaging.pypa.io/en/latest/version/ now too for parsing and sorting and stuff :D | 19:25 |
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| lifeless | dstufft: cool | 19:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Put the puppet modules in their own projects/repos https://review.openstack.org/99990 | 19:31 |
| lifeless | I know there's docs somewhere about it - the process ttx uses to release all the servers | 19:35 |
| lifeless | I have a nasty suspicion that we're going to wedge grenade everywhere if its 'tag everything at once' | 19:36 |
| lifeless | so pointers to said docs (or getting ttx online :)) welcome! | 19:36 |
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| fungi | lifeless: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/release-tools/tree/README.rst | 19:39 |
| clarkb | I think it is tag everything currently. probably needs a push commit to bump version then tag previous commit | 19:40 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: yeah thats exactly what it needs | 19:40 |
| lifeless | clarkb: or tag + push commit | 19:40 |
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| lifeless | I'm liking the idea of deep-sixing preversioning more and more | 19:41 |
| clarkb | you have my vote | 19:41 |
| lifeless | or at least making it 'minimum version' rather than target upper version | 19:41 |
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| anteaya | fungi: from what I can see on the graphs our pool of nodes in delete state is growing, are any stuck in error? | 19:50 |
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| fungi | anteaya: nope, the providers just get slow to respond to delete requests under load | 19:52 |
| anteaya | kk | 19:52 |
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| ekarlso | phschwartz: taking a chance to see if you're here | 19:53 |
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| ttx | lifeless: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Team/How_To_Release | 19:58 |
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| ttx | lifeless: using tools at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/release-tools | 19:58 |
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| lifeless | ttx: yayyy | 19:58 |
| lifeless | ttx: so real quick | 19:58 |
| ttx | 1min | 19:58 |
| ttx | :) | 19:58 |
| lifeless | ttx: grenade will fail for a tree now if you tag a new preversioned release until a commit lands updating the version number | 19:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Fixed version detection https://review.openstack.org/118455 | 19:59 |
| lifeless | ttx: (if the commit is to master, then all jobs will fail until thats done) | 19:59 |
| ttx | updating the version number where? | 19:59 |
| lifeless | ttx: so you need to ensure you do a push commit at the same time as the tag fixing the version or the gate will wedge | 20:00 |
| lifeless | ttx: setup.cfg | 20:00 |
| lifeless | ttx: this only applies to pre-versioned things e.g. the API servers. | 20:00 |
| ttx | lifeless: i'm not sre how I can do that (the push commit thing) | 20:00 |
| ttx | startign TC meetign now | 20:00 |
| lifeless | ttx: I would like to suggest we change the semantics of preversioning once you've had a chance to play with the semver features | 20:00 |
| lifeless | clarkb: | 20:01 |
| ttx | lifeless: also, timing. bad. | 20:01 |
| nibalizer | so we didn't get to open discussion at the meeting | 20:01 |
| nibalizer | but i wanted everyone to see this | 20:01 |
| nibalizer | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/puppet-users/QLguMcLraLE | 20:01 |
| nibalizer | tl;dr Puppet 2.7 EOL in 30 days | 20:01 |
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| ttx | lifeless: I'm not sure I have rights to do push commits. | 20:02 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: that's some serious advance warning | 20:02 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: you did just say 30 _months_ right? ;) | 20:03 |
| Ajaeger1 | fungi: years ;) | 20:03 |
| anteaya | the paste 500's are really frustrating | 20:04 |
| nibalizer | fungi: i don't know if there was an announcement six months ago or not | 20:04 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: oh, it's a *reminder* so was previously announced somewhere | 20:04 |
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| jeblair | unfortunately, we do not use the puppet supplied by our os, so we can't rely on that :( | 20:05 |
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| marcusvrn | asselin__: are you using a post-build action to publish your logs? after search aboute my problem, I saw that if some build step fails, the whole job fails and the post-build actions are not started. | 20:05 |
| fungi | nibalizer: and yeah, i guess we should not be consuming from the puppetlabs apt repo if we want security updates past this month | 20:05 |
| fungi | (for pre-3) | 20:05 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, one sec I'll check | 20:05 |
| nibalizer | looks like they also deprecated it last year too https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/puppet-users/8JEy7wY5VPs | 20:05 |
| jeblair | and we will not run unsupported software, so we may need to shut down our puppetmaster in 30 days | 20:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Get postgresql puppet from upstream master https://review.openstack.org/117396 | 20:05 |
| jeblair | that's going to make things very difficult | 20:06 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: im super close to having a puppet 3 master that just works | 20:06 |
| clarkb | ya I think we can push hard on puppet 3 and getthere | 20:06 |
| fungi | nibalizer: what's the status of puppet 3.x working on ubuntu precise and centos 6? any idea? | 20:06 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, http://paste.openstack.org/show/104896/ | 20:06 |
| clarkb | once we have a master that is working the process of migrating nodes is straightforward | 20:06 |
| clarkb | fungi: it works fine via puppet labs package repos iirc | 20:06 |
| fungi | oh, great | 20:06 |
| pleia2 | :\ | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | much puppet updating to do | 20:07 |
| nibalizer | so this is like the tip of a laundry list of changes to allow the puppet 3 master to come up smooth https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117604/ | 20:07 |
| krotscheck | clarkb fixed my storyboard-not-updating thing :) | 20:07 |
| clarkb | I am happy to focus on that if it will help to have a core/rooter focused on that one thing | 20:07 |
| clarkb | the only thing that makes it tricky is the release | 20:07 |
| nibalizer | maybe the butt, depending on how you think aobut it | 20:07 |
| clarkb | but again I think we can get there | 20:08 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing/blob/master/puppet/modules/os_ext_testing/templates/jenkins_job_builder/config/macros.yaml.erb#L98 | 20:08 |
| fungi | nibalizer: adding to the high-priority list | 20:08 |
| nibalizer | so i think i have stuff to figure out on there with respect to the config file | 20:08 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: why is it WIP? | 20:08 |
| nibalizer | because directory environments are hard | 20:08 |
| nibalizer | or different | 20:08 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: can you note that on the review so that we can review it with that knowledge? | 20:08 |
| nibalizer | sure | 20:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add bare-f20 nodes https://review.openstack.org/117397 | 20:08 |
| clarkb | ty | 20:09 |
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| clarkb | alright I am going to go find lunch then dive into reviews after. specs, nodepool, puppet3 | 20:09 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: noted | 20:10 |
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| lifeless | ttx: sorry about timing, soon as it clicked I raised it - and none of the other reviewers/folk in discussion caught it till now either... | 20:11 |
| ttx | lifeless: just want to know how I can complete the j3 week now | 20:11 |
| lifeless | ttx: we've got 36 hours to ensure you have permissions I guess | 20:12 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: does ttx have push_commit perms ? | 20:12 |
| krotscheck | I’m getting NOT_REGISTERED on some of my build results. Anyone know where I can fix the things? | 20:13 |
| fungi | lifeless: i thought pbr figured out the next release version from the most recent prerelease tag, if there's one present? or am i misunderstanding the problem (do you have a bug or similar problem description written up?) | 20:13 |
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| lifeless | fungi: preversioning says 'the next release *WILL BE* X.Y.Z' | 20:13 |
| lifeless | fungi: postversioning says 'the next release *WILL BE HIGHER THAN* X.Y.Z. | 20:14 |
| lifeless | fungi: the API servers using preversioning | 20:14 |
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| fungi | lifeless: yep, nothing new here so far... and where is that going to cause a problem with the recent pbr changes? | 20:14 |
| fungi | something about grenade, you said | 20:14 |
| lifeless | fungi: once the release is tagged, the setup.cfg entry will be specifying an illegal version | 20:14 |
| lifeless | fungi: because it will be specifying a release that has happened | 20:15 |
| fungi | lifeless: oh, i get you. pbr doesn't know to ignore the setup.cfg's declared version if it's less than or equal to the current tag and operate on a post-versioning assumption instead? | 20:15 |
| lifeless | fungi: so what we need to do is land a commit into the tree after the sha we'll be tagging, before doing the tagging, to change the version proactively | 20:16 |
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| ttx | lifeless: also I released swift 2.1.0 Monday. Is that affected ? | 20:17 |
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| lifeless | ttx: ok so I think its straight forward - this step: " PTL confirms SHA for tag" - the PTL should also land a commit to setup.cfg to update the version number in trunk, before we do the tag. Then you get the sha given to you of the older rev to tag. | 20:17 |
| ttx | lifeless: couldn't we revert pbr to old sanity ? | 20:17 |
| lifeless | ttx: it wasn't sane | 20:17 |
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| lifeless | ttx: swift uses postversioning, its not affected at all | 20:17 |
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| ttx | hmm, that would only affect release right | 20:18 |
| ttx | final release | 20:18 |
| ttx | not the milestone | 20:18 |
| ttx | or also the b3 tag ? | 20:18 |
| lifeless | as long as setup.cfg specifies a version higher than the highest tag in the branch, we're ok. | 20:19 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: can I take some of your time to clean up the outstanding account requests please? | 20:19 |
| openstackgerrit | patrick-crews proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Adding query namespace to elastic-recheck https://review.openstack.org/101958 | 20:19 |
| lifeless | its only when setup.cfg specifies a version less than or equal to the highest tag that we're in an inconsistent state | 20:19 |
| anteaya | clarkb: it will get really frustrating for me getting people to use the right list while these are still outstanding | 20:19 |
| clarkb | anteaya probably let me do lunch and rsviews first | 20:19 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yup | 20:19 |
| anteaya | clarkb: thanks | 20:19 |
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| lifeless | so all we need to do is decide on the sha; land the bump in that branch; do the tag. | 20:20 |
| ttx | lifeless: you realize it's not an easy proposal with a gate with the load we have this week, to land an extra commit before the tag | 20:21 |
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| ttx | I don't have time to discuss this now, in the middle of two meetigns | 20:21 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: What does NOT_REGISTERED mean? | 20:21 |
| fungi | lifeless: when we discussed this before you had proposed a means of doing postversioning up until the first prerelease tag, and then having pbr automatically switch to preversioning development until a non-prerelease tag. is that not an option after all? | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable puppet3 master bootstrap https://review.openstack.org/117604 | 20:22 |
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| fungi | lifeless: i believe it was suggested as a means of getting rid of versions in setup.cfg entirely | 20:22 |
| ttx | lifeless: for now I'll just say I'm not happy | 20:22 |
| lifeless | ttx: totally understood | 20:23 |
| lifeless | fungi: yes, I suggested we talk with ttx about that | 20:23 |
| fungi | lifeless: ahh, yep | 20:23 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: it means that teh zuul > nodepool toolchain had a sad | 20:23 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: does recheck get you anywhere? | 20:23 |
| lifeless | ttx: when you wrap those meetings, if you can spend a few minutes here focused on this it might be easy to resolve | 20:23 |
| fungi | krotscheck: gimme a link to one of the changes where you hit it. entirely possible we're defaulting the job to a node type it's not configured to use | 20:24 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104004/ | 20:25 |
| fungi | krotscheck: the other possibility is that it was a new job and zuull picked up on the layout change adding it before jjb managed to add said job to any jenkins masters, and in between you tried to run it | 20:25 |
| fungi | i should be able to tell from checking zuul | 20:25 |
| krotscheck | kk | 20:25 |
| krotscheck | This was a few weeks ago right after my new build changes hit. Probably related. | 20:26 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: gearman says we're configured to request a run of gate-storyboard-webclient-js-test-unit (for example) on bare-trusty nodes right now | 20:27 |
| fungi | logs look okay too | 20:29 |
| nibalizer | jesusaurus: care to respond here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117659/ ? | 20:29 |
| fungi | DEBUG zuul.Gearman: Function build:gate-storyboard-webclient-js-test-unit:bare-trusty is registered | 20:29 |
| krotscheck | Odd | 20:29 |
| clarkb | wait you dont need to merge anything now only prior to release | 20:29 |
| krotscheck | Well, it could be that jjb thing you mentioned. The queue’s a little constipated, so we’ll see once it clears. | 20:29 |
| clarkb | this is just a milestone | 20:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding a final setup step to install_puppet https://review.openstack.org/117659 | 20:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable puppet3 master bootstrap https://review.openstack.org/117604 | 20:30 |
| fungi | krotscheck: yeah, if it was going to switch to NOT_REGISTERED it would happen as soon as the change entered the pipeline, rather than going to a queued status | 20:30 |
| ttx | lifeless: when I wrap those meetings it will be midnight here and I'll be fully cooked | 20:30 |
| ttx | lifeless: if you want me to understand something or have a bit of empathy that's not the best time | 20:31 |
| fungi | krotscheck: so i think you should be fine | 20:31 |
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| ttx | but we can try | 20:31 |
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| marcusvrn | asselin__: yep, mine has those publishers :( but it's not enough...if the build fails, the logs are not published | 20:47 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, even with copy-after-failure: true? strange. | 20:48 |
| marcusvrn | yep... :( | 20:49 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, try to find those setttings direcctly in jenkins job | 20:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Multiple project groups. https://review.openstack.org/111814 | 21:10 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | As a heads up: Django 1.7 is about to drop, if horizon (and other Django use projects) don't work with that yet, it might be wise to preemptively send the global-requirements.txt PR if necessary | 21:13 |
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| david-lyle | Alex_Gaynor: thanks for the heads up | 21:15 |
| david-lyle | we can't support 1.7 yet due to the python 2.6 requirement | 21:15 |
| david-lyle | for OpenStack | 21:15 |
| Alex_Gaynor | looks like global-requirements.txt already blocks off 1.7, so I guess we're god | 21:16 |
| Alex_Gaynor | good* | 21:16 |
| david-lyle | Alex_Gaynor: yeah, was just verifying | 21:16 |
| clarkb | ok back and reviewing things now | 21:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Project may now be assigned to multiple project groups. https://review.openstack.org/111815 | 21:17 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: thanks to your good memory, i caught the integer bug on my laptop and have very detailed log files; hopefully i'll be able to get to the bottom of it tonight | 21:18 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: \o/ | 21:18 |
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| clarkb | I like that the specs process leads to really nice cross patchset diffs | 21:20 |
| clarkb | all of the priority specs lgtm | 21:20 |
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| clarkb | ianw: for 109890 that is the straight up revert right? then all changes are on top of it? | 21:25 |
| jeblair | yolanda: there's still a problem with 102583, which the nodepool patch depends on | 21:25 |
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| adam_g | if ive got 2 dependent patches (B, C) that need to both rely on an approved patch (A) that is currently in the gate, how can i push them without disturbing the approved patch? i 'git-review -d A', cherry-pick + rebase B, cherry-pick + rebase C. but git-review fails to submit them as a stack with error on A | 21:26 |
| adam_g | remote: (W) No changes between prior commit 1fc32a1 and new commit b9514df | 21:26 |
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| jroll | adam_g: git review -R? | 21:27 |
| jroll | -R skips the rebase + submit for dependent patches | 21:27 |
| adam_g | jroll, same | 21:27 |
| jroll | uhhh, weird | 21:28 |
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| mtreinish | adam_g: hmm, that describes my normal workflow that normally works for me | 21:28 |
| jroll | ^ | 21:28 |
| clarkb | adam_g: it is saying you changed the sha1 but content didn't change | 21:28 |
| clarkb | adam_g: so you got a new ocmmit (which you don't want) but no new content in the diff | 21:28 |
| adam_g | hmm | 21:28 |
| jroll | adam_g: oh, I'm thinking A got rebased | 21:28 |
| mtreinish | adam_g: oh, did you rebase the whole stack? | 21:28 |
| jroll | just -d A, -X B, git review -R | 21:29 |
| jroll | (review -X) | 21:29 |
| clarkb | ianw: ok, making a couple diffs helped and it looks good. | 21:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Cleanup javascript build https://review.openstack.org/111407 | 21:29 |
| adam_g | dont remember rebasing, let me try again | 21:29 |
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| jroll | adam_g: you said "cherry-pick + rebase B"? | 21:29 |
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| adam_g | jroll, i meant rebase B on A (resolved conflicts) | 21:30 |
| jroll | ah, ok | 21:31 |
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| dougwig | hi infra, can i get some cores to look at a jenkins fix for octavia? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117868/ | 21:31 |
| adam_g | yeah, looks like the sha1 of A somehow changed | 21:31 |
| fungi | okay, added a bunch of extra candidate configuration files to 110730 which seem to contain openstack-project-specific things or possibly step on trademarked logos, et et cetera | 21:32 |
| fungi | i'm gonna go grab dinner, then come back and revisit the nodepool patches | 21:32 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: 93167 still wants you to look at it | 21:33 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ya I need to brush up on api details. I suppose I can do that now while I am between nodepool patches | 21:33 |
| jeblair | fungi: i think i may not be communicating what i'm trying to do with project-config | 21:34 |
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| fungi | jeblair: oh? i think it was a place to move openstack-project-specific static configuration out of the config repo while leaving the reusable configuration behind with the puppetry | 21:35 |
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| anteaya | zaro: what would it take to have permissions on third party accounts so that they could only comment/vote on sandbox and nothing else until they can meet requirements to graduate to other permissions | 21:35 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i'm not trying to put all openstack-specific stuff in there. i'm trying to separate out the configuration data for the openstack ci and code review systems | 21:36 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i still expect system-config to be "the openstack-specific system administration repo" | 21:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Removed default passwords https://review.openstack.org/113989 | 21:37 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i'm not opposed to doing the other thing; in fact, i think we need to do it eventually, but i don't think we're ready for it; i think it's the last step in the process | 21:37 |
| fungi | i clearly misread the spec in that case | 21:38 |
| jeblair | fungi: i clearly miswrote it because you're the second person to say something like that. | 21:38 |
| fungi | jeblair: rereading teh problem description, i'm starting to see how it could be taken a different way | 21:39 |
| jeblair | fungi: i'm trying really hard to make this a bite-sized chunk where we can get immediate results. part of why i want to keep it so limited is because it will hugely reduce the review load on system-config. | 21:39 |
| jeblair | fungi: and i think we need that before we can make more complicated changes | 21:39 |
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| jeblair | (i don't see how we will ever get the major refactoring done if we're constantly swamped with reviewing job tweaks) | 21:40 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I am +2 on 93167. http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/0.90/indices-get-field-mapping.html is the relevant doc | 21:40 |
| jeblair | fungi: so i'm actually mostly trying to look at this from the perspective of review teams | 21:40 |
| fungi | jeblair: got it. so this doesn't at all address the concerns expressed by downstream consumers that our system configuration management is not decoupled from our project-specific configuration | 21:40 |
| jeblair | fungi: it _mostly_ does not address that :) | 21:40 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I did not approve. Did you want to review and approve if you are happy with it? I can babysit | 21:40 |
| fungi | it's more a matter of grouping like data and separating it from the configuration management automation bits | 21:41 |
| jeblair | fungi: i believe a downstream consumer could certainly take advantage of it in the same way that we will | 21:41 |
| fungi | i will rereview it with that in mind when i return from dinner | 21:41 |
| jeblair | fungi: in that, hey, at least the set of openstack-specific stuff contained in the system-config repo is significantly smaller | 21:41 |
| fungi | yep, so it should be a subset of that project-specific configuration, but not encompass the entirety of it | 21:42 |
| * fungi will bbiab | 21:42 | |
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| jeblair | fungi: basically, i'm trying to put myself in the shoes of someone who wants to help out with "infra as a system" but has a limted attention span for reviewing new stackforge projects, or gating configuration changes. and trying to make sure they can pay attention to the parts of the system that they are most able to contribute to | 21:43 |
| jeblair | fungi: likewise, people who work on openstack who can/should be reviewing new projects and gating configuration changes find the stuff they are able to contribute too without us hearing "oh, well i don't know puppet" ;) | 21:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add puppet-storyboard to storyboard https://review.openstack.org/118435 | 21:44 |
| anteaya | fungi: can you disable 10119varmourcivArmour cinerama openstack-ci-test@varmour.com | 21:45 |
| anteaya | please | 21:45 |
| ttx | lifeless: still around? | 21:45 |
| jeblair | anteaya: fungi is afk; i'll do it | 21:46 |
| anteaya | thanks | 21:46 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: done | 21:46 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thank you | 21:47 |
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| ttx | lifeless: ok, i'm going to bed. We can talk in my tomorrow morning (your evening if you are home), or you can send me an email summarizing how the release process is affected | 21:47 |
| ttx | lifeless: I'm still unclear on the order things need to happen, and if push commits are really required | 21:48 |
| lifeless | ttx: ok | 21:48 |
| lifeless | ttx: gnight | 21:48 |
| ttx | lifeless: I can talk for 5 minutes now if you want to explain now | 21:48 |
| lifeless | ttx: ok so | 21:49 |
| ttx | but i'm really fried, so don't expect me to be msart | 21:49 |
| ttx | or smart | 21:49 |
| clarkb | fungi: jeblair: I am +2 on nodepool stack | 21:49 |
| lifeless | ttx: the issue is that pbr no longer accepts version numbers lower than the last release | 21:49 |
| lifeless | ttx: where release is found by the last tag | 21:49 |
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| lifeless | ttx: since you are fried, I suggest you crash and I'll talk with -infra folk about options | 21:50 |
| ttx | lifeless: since when ? because I think that's the current case (last tag is 2014.2.b2 and version must be 2014.2) | 21:50 |
| lifeless | ttx: 2014.2.b2 is older than 2014.2 | 21:50 |
| ttx | lifeless: so if I tag 2014.2.b3 it's still older than 2014.2, right? | 21:51 |
| lifeless | ttx: anyhow, I now have a phone call - so will put a doc together for you for when you wake up | 21:51 |
| marcusvrn | asselin__: looking for someone who had the same problem, i found that i need to use scp plugin 1.9 to make copy-after-failure works....are you using that plugin? Mine is v1.8 | 21:51 |
| ttx | lifeless: ok, talk to you tomorrow :) | 21:51 |
| lifeless | ttx: yes, so we should be fine right now | 21:51 |
| lifeless | ttx: the release will be where this kicks in | 21:51 |
| clarkb | right so we have a few weeks unless I am misunderstanding when release happens | 21:52 |
| ttx | I think it only kicks in for stable point releases | 21:52 |
| clarkb | ttx: yup | 21:52 |
| ttx | because at release time everything is 2014.2 | 21:52 |
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| asselin__ | marcusvrn, yes....:( | 21:52 |
| ttx | but if you tag 2014.2.1 without bumping version first then boom | 21:52 |
| ttx | but then I think they already bump setup.Cfg before they tag | 21:52 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, and you need to build it and upload it manually | 21:53 |
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| ttx | i.e. currently, glance stable/icehouse has 2014.1.3 in setup?cfg and last tag is 2014.1.2 | 21:53 |
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| clarkb | dougwig: was py3k expected to pass but doesn't? | 21:54 |
| ttx | so I'm not sure I understand where the problem is. But then, I can blame midnight for that. Good night! | 21:54 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, I provided a link in my file, but not int he readme: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2013-December/000568.html | 21:54 |
| clarkb | dougwig: just wondering if fixing py3k support is trivial or not | 21:54 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing/blob/master/puppet/modules/os_ext_testing/manifests/master.pp#L144 | 21:54 |
| JayF | /win 21 | 21:55 |
| JayF | sry | 21:55 |
| dougwig | clarkb: it's eventlet, so py33 won't pass. neutron runs the tests anyway, which is what we modeled after. | 21:55 |
| clarkb | dougwig: hrm. I would suggest removing the job them | 21:55 |
| clarkb | *then | 21:55 |
| clarkb | and neutron is running it too? | 21:55 |
| dougwig | ok, i can do that. | 21:55 |
| dougwig | yes, they are. | 21:55 |
| dougwig | no, it's gone now. | 21:56 |
| dougwig | heh. | 21:56 |
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| dougwig | ok, one sec and i'll fix the review. thanks. | 21:56 |
| krotscheck | Is there an example of adding alert-style text to the docs? Sortof like a “warning: foo” block? | 21:56 |
| clarkb | dougwig: basically if we know a test will fail 100% of the time and have no intention of fixing it in the near future we shouldn't run that test | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make Octavia python 3.3 jobs non-voting https://review.openstack.org/117868 | 21:57 |
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| dougwig | clarkb: i agree, i always thought it was odd. review updated. | 21:58 |
| clarkb | dougwig: thanks | 21:58 |
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| krotscheck | n/m, found one | 21:58 |
| clarkb | dougwig: can you update the commit message though :) | 21:58 |
| clarkb | dougwig: it is no logner accurate | 21:58 |
| dougwig | oh, nuts. :) | 21:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove Octavia python 3.3 job, as eventlet means that will always fail. https://review.openstack.org/117868 | 21:59 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: are we running a puppet 3.6 master? | 21:59 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: eg WIP is important for that reason? | 21:59 |
| dougwig | clarkb: updated | 21:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Added documentation for StoryBoard https://review.openstack.org/108460 | 22:00 |
| clarkb | thanks | 22:00 |
| marcusvrn | asselin__: hmmm yep, that was the link that i found! i'll try to install it manually | 22:00 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: we're not running anything right now | 22:01 |
| nibalizer | but yea in the future it will be 3.6 | 22:01 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: oh I htought we had a master up. is it just the node and this change actually installs? | 22:01 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: rgr | 22:01 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: uh jeblair and i have spun it up a cpl times | 22:04 |
| nibalizer | it keeps spamming cron for whatever reason (i haven't gotten those cron messages is) so it keeps getting killed off | 22:04 |
| nibalizer | that being sai | 22:04 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: spamming cron isn't the problem... it spams cron because it didn't work :) | 22:04 |
| nibalizer | i think i'm close to wanting real reviews on my puppet3 branch | 22:04 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: yea i was about to say it also didn't work | 22:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable puppet3 master bootstrap https://review.openstack.org/117604 | 22:05 |
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| clarkb | gotcha. I am reviewing ^ that change | 22:05 |
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| nibalizer | awesome | 22:06 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I am going to have some dinner here is the etherpad of for the account creation: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IKeV1GSwxM | 22:06 |
| anteaya | s/of// | 22:06 |
| clarkb | anteaya: thanks | 22:07 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 22:09 |
| clarkb | hi there | 22:10 |
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| QuinnyPig | Hello. | 22:11 |
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| morganfainberg | QuinnyPig, I might lurk here too :P | 22:12 |
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| QuinnyPig | morganfainberg: Yeah, I recognize a few names. :-) | 22:12 |
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| jeblair | QuinnyPig: hi there? what draws you to our cozy little channel? | 22:13 |
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| QuinnyPig | jeblair: morganfainberg painted a pretty picture of pitching in with the testing infrastructure. | 22:14 |
| * jeblair never knows how many people are actually in here and just assumes it's always cozy | 22:14 | |
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| QuinnyPig | jeblair: Plus pleia2 tells amazing stories about the project every time someone hands her a microphone... | 22:14 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: see comments. Those packages shouldn't be needed | 22:15 |
| nibalizer | okay | 22:15 |
| pleia2 | welcome QuinnyPig | 22:15 |
| nibalizer | its a really weird error | 22:15 |
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| pleia2 | (oh, hi Corey!) | 22:15 |
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| morganfainberg | pleia2, hehe | 22:15 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: I did test it locally and you should only need python-lxml | 22:15 |
| jeblair | QuinnyPig: that sounds like lovely art morganfainberg is working on, and we should keep mics near pleia2 all the time | 22:15 |
| morganfainberg | pleia2, funny how small the world is huh. | 22:15 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: but I used a virtualenv | 22:15 |
| pleia2 | morganfainberg: indeed :) plus QuinnyPig grew up in the tiny Maine town next to mine! (we only learned this recently) | 22:16 |
| QuinnyPig | Lies. I never grew up. | 22:16 |
| morganfainberg | pleia2, QuinnyPig, LOL | 22:16 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: yea im not super worried about it | 22:16 |
| jeblair | QuinnyPig: has someone pointed you at some entry points? | 22:16 |
| nibalizer | so ill just rip it out | 22:16 |
| nibalizer | and if its a real error and not an error in my env we'll deal with it down the road :) | 22:16 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: in particular one of our worries is keeping the bindings properly up to date if we are linking there | 22:17 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: easier to let apt deal with it | 22:17 |
| jeblair | QuinnyPig: i mean, honestly, just being in this channel is 90% of it :) | 22:17 |
| ekarlso | anyone know where phschwartz is hiding ? | 22:17 |
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| morganfainberg | jeblair, i only gave the "contributing to OpenStack link and review plus this channel", I unfortunately don't have much else to add since i'm somewhere lost in identity world | 22:17 |
| jeblair | morganfainberg: i hope you find an identity | 22:18 |
| * morganfainberg unfocuses and goes back to coooooddeeee review. | 22:18 | |
| morganfainberg | jeblair, not today :P maybe tomorrow. | 22:18 |
| jeblair | QuinnyPig: you might enjoy some light reading here: http://ci.openstack.org/ | 22:18 |
| clarkb | you can have mine but only if you make my credit score better | 22:18 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: ^ | 22:18 |
| jeblair | QuinnyPig: most of that is even correct | 22:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable puppet3 master bootstrap https://review.openstack.org/117604 | 22:18 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, hm. you mean i can't make it worse? darn. | 22:18 |
| * anteaya goes for a walk | 22:19 | |
| clarkb | nibalizer: any idea why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117659/2 failed? doesn't seem related to your patch but the test did run | 22:19 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: its odd. | 22:19 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: anyways I am +2 on your stack up to that change. rereviewing 117604 now | 22:19 |
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| clarkb | and +2 on that as well | 22:20 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I am pulling up the etherpad now | 22:20 |
| jeblair | QuinnyPig: also, have you met zuul? now is a really interesting time to look at its status page: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 22:20 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: when you get back I can create those projects. Not sure what the usernames should look like | 22:21 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: i dunno | 22:21 |
| jeblair | QuinnyPig: anyway, if something in particular catches your interest, we can try to help you find out more about it | 22:21 |
| nibalizer | i was thinking that was the system derping so i asked for a recheck | 22:21 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: ya I think it did derp, but its a funny derp | 22:22 |
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| nibalizer | i mean i didn't touch anything near there so lolwut | 22:22 |
| clarkb | jeblair: the fialure on 117659 is interesting | 22:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Formatting updates in hiera.yaml https://review.openstack.org/117664 | 22:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable puppet3 master bootstrap https://review.openstack.org/117604 | 22:24 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: sorry to keep updating it for you | 22:24 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: its fine, if you need to fix it fix it | 22:25 |
| nibalizer | i really appreciate you looking at all this stuff | 22:25 |
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| clarkb | hrm I wonder if that failure is a jjb bug? /me tests locally | 22:25 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: np, I really want puppet3 to happen :) | 22:26 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: nibalizer found a gertty bug :) | 22:26 |
| nibalizer | i did? | 22:26 |
| nibalizer | or you did? | 22:26 |
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| jeblair | nibalizer: you did :) | 22:26 |
| nibalizer | explain? | 22:26 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: you changed 117664 while i was looking at 117659 | 22:27 |
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| jeblair | apparently updates to the 'needed-by' table crash it | 22:27 |
| nibalizer | wow | 22:27 |
| nibalizer | happy to help! | 22:27 |
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| jeblair | nibalizer: yes, thanks! | 22:27 |
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| jeblair | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/262 | 22:32 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: nibalizer I can reproduce that failure locally. I think it may be a jjb thing. debugging now | 22:32 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: thanks, let me know what you find (i was starting to look into that too) | 22:33 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh, we just merged a change that touches that code | 22:34 |
| clarkb | I think 1d7647fa857fa718af814f3038d538d758c35201 did it | 22:34 |
| clarkb | ya | 22:34 |
| jeblair | clarkb: http://logs.openstack.org/10/87810/28/check/jenkins-job-builder-compare-xml/e9e2115/console.html | 22:35 |
| jeblair | that showed up in the compare xml job | 22:35 |
| clarkb | yup thats the thing ok now to see if fix is easy. otherwise revert | 22:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add lxsli and jonpaul-sullivan to tripleo core https://review.openstack.org/118483 | 22:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i would prefer a revert and then a new patch so that we could rely on the output of the compare-xml job | 22:37 |
| clarkb | oh right it will fail until the old side is good ++ to that plan. revert incoming | 22:37 |
| jeblair | because i think a change like that should not change the xml | 22:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i'm actually talking about to jjb itself | 22:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: (jjb runs compare-xml too) | 22:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: so a change that says "this is just for python3 compat", we should expect no changes to the xml | 22:38 |
| jeblair | or at least, some really good explanations as to why it's changing, and people should be checking the results to make sure it matches | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Revert "Some tweaks to get closer to Python 3 compat" https://review.openstack.org/118484 | 22:38 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: yup, but just fixing it will break on the old side as well in jjb | 22:39 |
| clarkb | jeblair: basically reverting it gets us in a state where that job works for jjb and we can do python3 compat with working test | 22:39 |
| jeblair | i'll send an email to the infra list | 22:39 |
| clarkb | kk | 22:40 |
| QuinnyPig | jeblair: Zuul is indeed new to me. | 22:41 |
| clarkb | it is also tricky because popitem() vs items()[0] should be roughly the same so a deeper internal contract is being broken | 22:41 |
| QuinnyPig | jeblair: Just for background, I just finished a four month stint as a traveling trainer for Puppet Labs. Before that I wrote some bits and pieces of Salt. I also do some freenodey things from time to time. | 22:42 |
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| jeblair | QuinnyPig: oh neat. so you may be interested in the huge puppet mess we have created for ourselves. | 22:42 |
| QuinnyPig | jeblair: Particularly if you're replacing it with Salt. *rimshot* | 22:42 |
| QuinnyPig | I'm a consultant. I can work with just about anything. | 22:43 |
| pleia2 | QuinnyPig: tsk, I broke your heart already re: Salt | 22:43 |
| morganfainberg | pleia2, it's ok QuinnyPig still talks to me even though i stopped contributing to Salt | 22:44 |
| jeblair | QuinnyPig: at the moment, we have more folks showing up to hack on puppet than salt (or ansible), so that somewhat determines our direction | 22:44 |
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| pleia2 | morganfainberg: he was in the audience at TLF around we removed Salt and someone asked a question about our usage, I thought he might walk out :) | 22:44 |
| QuinnyPig | jeblair: Are you at least Puppet 3? | 22:45 |
| morganfainberg | pleia2, haha | 22:45 |
| jeblair | QuinnyPig: nibalizer is working on that right now | 22:45 |
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| jeblair | QuinnyPig: then after that, we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100363/ to address some of our (lack of) architecture problems | 22:46 |
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| jeblair | QuinnyPig: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117604/ should mean we can get our puppet 3 master up and running | 22:46 |
| QuinnyPig | Did you work a supression notice in for the deprecation warnings Quinntroduced in 3.6 with respect to the allow_virtual nonsense? | 22:47 |
| QuinnyPig | (Still trying to figure out how to navigate this web portal) | 22:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Updating node deff for puppet 3 master https://review.openstack.org/118485 | 22:48 |
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| jeblair | nibalizer: ^ ? :) | 22:48 |
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| QuinnyPig | jeblair: Ideally by tossing something like http://pastebin.com/1gBUb6fC into site.pp or thereabouts. | 22:49 |
| pleia2 | QuinnyPig: you in town this week? | 22:49 |
| nibalizer | allow_virtual is new to me | 22:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Start running bashate on config (nonvoting) https://review.openstack.org/112446 | 22:51 |
| nibalizer | QuinnyPig: what problem does that solve? | 22:51 |
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| QuinnyPig | nibalizer: Without it, Puppet throws an error on every run into the log. | 22:52 |
| marcusvrn | asselin__: yeahhhhh...now it's working!!! :D | 22:52 |
| QuinnyPig | nibalizer: In PE 3.3.0, this hit enterprise customers. | 22:52 |
| nibalizer | lulz | 22:53 |
| asselin__ | marcusvrn, awesome! I updated the Readme. Thanks for letting me know! | 22:53 |
| QuinnyPig | Puppet (warning): The package type's allow_virtual parameter will be changing its default value from false to true in a future release. If you do not want to allow virtual packages, please explicitly set allow_virtual to false. | 22:53 |
| QuinnyPig | (at /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/type.rb:816:in `set_default') | 22:53 |
| QuinnyPig | nibalizer: ^ | 22:53 |
| nibalizer | so if we don't use virtual package resources it'll still complain? | 22:53 |
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| QuinnyPig | nibalizer: Bingo. As of 3.6.1 | 22:54 |
| nibalizer | thats awesome | 22:54 |
| QuinnyPig | nibalizer: Yeah. I was *thrilled* by that one. | 22:54 |
| * krotscheck thinks the storyboard issue is related to our use of BlockingConnections rather than AsyncConnections.... | 22:54 | |
| QuinnyPig | nibalizer: I have a flask at home with a Puppet Labs sticker on it for precisely this sort of thing. | 22:55 |
| fungi | wow. we're up to a cozy 326 lurkers in channel now | 22:55 |
| krotscheck | It’s a bit complex because the same code is handling two use cases :/ | 22:55 |
| QuinnyPig | nibalizer: If that's quinnsufficient, I've got a $15 bottle of Buffalo Trace White Dog labeled (with a label maker) "PUPPET MOONSHINE." | 22:55 |
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| nibalizer | nice | 22:56 |
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| QuinnyPig | pleia2: Yes, I'm in town all week long. | 22:57 |
| clarkb | I cannot figure out where that popitem is getting an empty dict. maybe our projects listing has an empty jobs? | 22:57 |
| marcusvrn | asselin__: thx for all your help! | 22:58 |
| nibalizer | QuinnyPig: so you can set allow_virtual as a default and that will shut up the warnings? | 22:58 |
| pleia2 | QuinnyPig: we should hangout to drink^Wtalk about puppet | 22:58 |
| QuinnyPig | nibalizer: Yes. But note the conditional that's wrapped within. | 22:58 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 23:02 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I have confirmed that my revert fixes the run layout job locally | 23:04 |
| clarkb | jeblair: so it isn't something in our config it must be that change. I am stumped about what it could be though | 23:04 |
| nibalizer | are other tests that aren't my change failing too? | 23:04 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: yes | 23:05 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: JJB merged a change that broke them | 23:05 |
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| nibalizer | woo its not my fault! | 23:06 |
| jogo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113449/ is approved but is not in zuul | 23:06 |
| jeblair | jogo: will look | 23:06 |
| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 23:06 |
| clarkb | anteaya: did you see that I didn't think I had enough info to make accounts? | 23:07 |
| anteaya | I didn't | 23:07 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: what usernames should we give them? | 23:07 |
| jeblair | jogo: no vote from jenkins | 23:07 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: lowercase of Full Name | 23:07 |
| jeblair | jogo: 'recheck' | 23:07 |
| jogo | jeblair: ahh | 23:07 |
| clarkb | anteaya: and on the email front are we adding email if they give it to us? | 23:07 |
| anteaya | clarkb: with hyphens | 23:07 |
| clarkb | anteaya: with -'s for spaces? | 23:07 |
| clarkb | ok | 23:07 |
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| jogo | jeblair: having the old jenkins vote on the right hand side is misleading | 23:07 |
| anteaya | clarkb: ah, that is a good question | 23:07 |
| anteaya | let's go with no, since that is the purpose of the third-party-announce | 23:08 |
| jeblair | jogo: yeah; not sure how to solve that immediately though (since the last set was for the current patchset) | 23:08 |
| clarkb | anteaya: well it doesn't hurt to have it so I think I will add it | 23:08 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: okay | 23:08 |
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| jeblair | jogo: (the obvious first choice of dropping results when a non-result message is left is somewhat in conflict with also wanting to show experimental or other pipeline results in there...) | 23:09 |
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| anteaya | the radio is talking about some guy I used to talk to in a neighbouring town, apparently his bigoted political opinions made the national news | 23:09 |
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| anteaya | they obviously don't know the size of the town | 23:09 |
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| jhesketh | jeblair, jogo: I'm still looking to overlay zuuls progress in Gerrit. Most likely over the new results section | 23:10 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for the Jenkins Environment Script plugin. https://review.openstack.org/118145 | 23:10 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: "Dell Internal Use Confidential" .... | 23:11 |
| jogo | jeblair jhesketh: cool | 23:11 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yeah, I don't understand that either | 23:11 |
| anteaya | clarkb: why they would use that to post to a public mailing list | 23:12 |
| * anteaya shakes head | 23:12 | |
| clarkb | anyways /me creates some accounts now | 23:12 |
| anteaya | thanks | 23:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adds support for Change Assembly Version plugin https://review.openstack.org/114630 | 23:12 |
| anteaya | I can't believe this guy is getting this much air time | 23:13 |
| anteaya | national news has no idea apparently this guy will never get elected in municipal politics | 23:13 |
| dougwig | clarkb: removing those jobs seems to have made jenkins unhappy. is there something i missed? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117868 | 23:13 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: so 'dell-afc-ci' is what we want the username to be on the first one? | 23:15 |
| anteaya | yes | 23:15 |
| clarkb | dougwig: its independently broken. A revert to fix it has been pushed | 23:15 |
| anteaya | please | 23:15 |
| dougwig | clarkb: ty | 23:15 |
| clarkb | anteaya: done | 23:15 |
| anteaya | thanks | 23:15 |
| fungi | okay, finished reviewing the nodepool allocator stack, good with it, approved them all | 23:16 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I will do the rest. Do you want me to respond to the requests as well? | 23:16 |
| anteaya | you or me | 23:16 |
| anteaya | up to you | 23:16 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: you can do it then | 23:17 |
| fungi | assuming things are not on fire tomorrow, we can hopefully find a moment to restart nodepool early enough in the day that we can keep an eye on it | 23:17 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: I will notify you as I get them done | 23:17 |
| clarkb | anteaya: updating the ehterpad | 23:17 |
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| fungi | getting zm04 spun up now | 23:17 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: Nexenta iscsi nfs CI should that be Nexenta ISCSI NFS CI ? | 23:21 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: if you like | 23:21 |
| anteaya | I am so tired of being yelled at by the names | 23:21 |
| anteaya | clarkb: your call | 23:21 |
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| clarkb | well they are acronyms so meh | 23:21 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/nodepool: Avoid passing negative available count to allocator https://review.openstack.org/109185 | 23:22 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/nodepool: Revert "Revert "Track last allocations to ensure forward-progress"" https://review.openstack.org/109890 | 23:22 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/nodepool: Change history allocation from list to dict https://review.openstack.org/109187 | 23:22 |
| fungi | i would just assign them names based on the output of pwgen -s 16 1 | 23:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/nodepool: Some extra safety around negative numbers https://review.openstack.org/117883 | 23:23 |
| fungi | well, the usernames. probably wouldn't be so helpful for the human-readable names | 23:23 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: and for the last one it isn't clear to me where the full name came from | 23:25 |
| clarkb | anteaya: did they respond to you directly? | 23:25 |
| fungi | zm04 is up and running | 23:26 |
| fungi | checking gearman now to make sure it's checking in | 23:26 |
| anteaya | clarkb: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-September/001877.html | 23:26 |
| anteaya | clarkb: they replied to my request for more information | 23:27 |
| clarkb | oh I see the ZFSSA there now thanks | 23:27 |
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| clarkb | note, I am not adding that email address because they spelled openstack wrong and I don't want to check if it is correctly wrong | 23:27 |
| anteaya | clarkb: noted | 23:28 |
| fungi | ahh, right, no iptables hole opened for it yet, so that's why there are still only 3 merger workers in gearman. on the way | 23:28 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: all done | 23:29 |
| fungi | so once 117909 merges and gets applied to zuul, it should connect | 23:30 |
| anteaya | clarkb: thanks | 23:30 |
| anteaya | clarkb: are you emailing then or am I? | 23:30 |
| clarkb | anteaya: you can do it | 23:30 |
| anteaya | k | 23:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: cool and that can get reapproved when the jjb revert gets though | 23:31 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep | 23:31 |
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| fungi | looks like the jjb fix is only a minute or two out from getting workers | 23:32 |
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| fungi | too bad it then enqueued into the gate just after a full integrated queue reset | 23:43 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: if you are around, I got some rejected emails and have sent you the erros | 23:43 |
| anteaya | errors | 23:43 |
| anteaya | it is possible I haven't set up third-party-request properly | 23:44 |
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| pleia2 | anteaya: we need a core to poke at mailman | 23:45 |
| anteaya | pleia2: kk | 23:45 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: want to pastebin both messages? | 23:45 |
| anteaya | sure | 23:45 |
| anteaya | actually I have 3 | 23:45 |
| * anteaya hopes paste doesn't 500 on her | 23:46 | |
| pleia2 | 550 Unknown user | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | is the one I get now | 23:46 |
| ianw | did my change break this -> http://logs.openstack.org/96/117396/3/check/gate-config-layout/86d583e/console.html or is a known issue? | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | when I try to post to third-party-request@lists.openstack.org | 23:46 |
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| clarkb | ianw: known issue, fix should be in shortly | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | the exim error might help us pinpoint where things went wrong though | 23:46 |
| anteaya | http://paste.openstack.org/show/104943/ | 23:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Revert "Some tweaks to get closer to Python 3 compat" https://review.openstack.org/118484 | 23:46 |
| fungi | ianw: ^ that's the fix | 23:47 |
| ianw | clarkb: thanks, i knew you'd be faster than searching :) | 23:47 |
| anteaya | http://paste.openstack.org/show/104944/ | 23:47 |
| clarkb | wow shortly wasn't an exageration | 23:47 |
| pleia2 | announce seems to be working fine, just request that went sideways | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | maybe we have a problem with a commit creating 2 mailing list at once :) | 23:48 |
| clarkb | huh /me logs into lists.o.o | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | thanks clarkb | 23:48 |
| clarkb | I see unknown user in the reject log | 23:49 |
| clarkb | I guess next step is mailman? | 23:49 |
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| fungi | pleia2: i was able to successfully subscribe to both lists... | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: not sure how mailman is configured, might be /etc/aliases | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | fungi: subscribe is fine, posting is not | 23:49 |
| fungi | oh... | 23:49 |
| anteaya | http://paste.openstack.org/show/104945/ | 23:49 |
| clarkb | pleia2: no, it does it the exim way which is different iirc | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | yeah, might be in the exim config then | 23:50 |
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| clarkb | the mailman error log doens't have a no such list entry for third-party-request | 23:50 |
| clarkb | I remember refreshing on all this stuff once long ago and now it is like fumbling around in the dark again | 23:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: any luck? | 23:52 |
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| fungi | oh, we're using a monolithic /etc/exim4/exim4.conf not the broken-out version | 23:53 |
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| clarkb | and /var/lib/mailman has the third-party-request list in the lists dir | 23:54 |
| fungi | exim seems to dig inside mailman's config.pck to determine whether the list is a valid one | 23:55 |
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| pleia2 | the sub-addresses seem to work, like -request | 23:56 |
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| pleia2 | err, -confirm | 23:56 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Don't modify status widgets outside of main thread https://review.openstack.org/118498 | 23:56 |
| * QuinnyPig glares at exim | 23:56 | |
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| fungi | and /var/lib/mailman/lists/third-party-request/config.pck is definitely there | 23:57 |
| clarkb | yup | 23:57 |
| morganfainberg | QuinnyPig, at least it isn't qmail. | 23:57 |
| clarkb | perms look good on it too | 23:57 |
| QuinnyPig | morganfainberg: DJB is awful. No less so because he's almost always right... | 23:58 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: i _think_ https://review.openstack.org/118498 will solve the problem (it's a bit tricky to reproduce) | 23:58 |
| fungi | djb designs theoretical software as a primary goal of being able to use it to teach his classes | 23:58 |
| clarkb | jeblair: any ideas ^ | 23:58 |
| morganfainberg | fungi, sounds about right | 23:58 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ohai, context switching | 23:58 |
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| jeblair | i think it might be time to restart paste.o.o :/ | 23:59 |
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