| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Zuul depends indirectly on lxml https://review.openstack.org/110807 | 00:00 |
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| fungi | comment added, and commit message fixed ^ | 00:00 |
| arosen | nodepool downloads so much to the guest i hope i have enough disk space :) | 00:00 |
| arosen | 36% full, only have a 16 gig disk for my image. Hopefully that's big enough. | 00:00 |
| fungi | arosen: for our systems we manage to get by with instances which have only a 10gb root partition (but we jump through a lot of hoops to link workspace activity into an ephemeral disk on the instances in that situation) | 00:00 |
| notmyname | I keep getting bugged about updating git-review. but pip tells me I'm already up to date | 00:01 |
| notmyname | is there a known issue that I'm doing something wrong? | 00:01 |
| fungi | notmyname: what's pip --version say? | 00:01 |
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| fungi | er, git review --version i mean | 00:02 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Remove hpcloud-region-b https://review.openstack.org/107922 | 00:02 |
| fungi | i suspect you really are running an older version, because we removed that nag entirely in the most recent release | 00:02 |
| arosen | fungi: at the uploading to glance stage :) | 00:02 |
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| notmyname | fungi: 1.23. (side note, that command only works if I'm in a git repo, not elsewhere) | 00:03 |
| fungi | notmyname: also a bug which got fixed in 1.24 ;) | 00:03 |
| notmyname | fungi: https://gist.github.com/notmyname/a2640b17c88bdc1035d8 | 00:04 |
| fungi | notmyname: does pip freeze or pip list mention an old version? | 00:04 |
| notmyname | fungi: pip list says 1.24 | 00:04 |
| fungi | huh... try 'which git-review' and see if you have an old entrypoint linked in your path somewhere weird? | 00:05 |
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| notmyname | uninstall + install, and now pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: git-review | 00:06 |
| fungi | that's due to pbr not working with an old setuptools (0.7 or later is needed i think) | 00:07 |
| notmyname | updating setuptools worked | 00:07 |
| notmyname | thanks | 00:07 |
| fungi | yw! | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Update ci.openstack.org footer https://review.openstack.org/107656 | 00:07 |
| fungi | and now you should (hopefully!) be able to git review --version outside a git repo too ;) | 00:08 |
| notmyname | fungi: so it seems that the upgrade got half-installed when setuptools wasn't install | 00:08 |
| notmyname | ed | 00:08 |
| notmyname | right | 00:08 |
| notmyname | maybe a newer setuptools should be int he dependencies of git-review (jsut guessing) | 00:08 |
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| fungi | setuptools doesn't really work as a declared dependency for $reasons | 00:09 |
| fungi | mostly a chicken-and-egg problem | 00:09 |
| fungi | and a seed for hours of ranting on why python packaging why | 00:09 |
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| fungi | the underlying issue being that setuptools is already imported and runnign by the time you're trying to install a package which declares a dependency on a newer setuptools and then *fail* | 00:11 |
| fungi | arosen: my anecdote about 10gb root filesystems is no longer valid... looks like these days we get 30gb on the provider i was thinking of. but the good news is that we only seem to use about 4gb of it in devstack node images and 9gb in "bare" node images (and no the irony on the naming of the bare nodes is not lost on us) | 00:15 |
| fungi | er, typo on the devstack images... it's more like 5gb there | 00:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add experimental Centos7 job https://review.openstack.org/110178 | 00:18 |
| arosen | fungi: | 00:18 |
| arosen | | ID | Provider | Image | Hostname | Version | Image ID | Server ID | State | Age (hours) | | 00:18 |
| arosen | +----+----------+-------+-----------------------------------------+------------+--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-------+-------------+ | 00:18 |
| arosen | | 45 | local_01 | d-p-c | d-p-c-1406762544.template.openstack.org | 1406762544 | f1c6c71f-4dd5-4456-9b06-da0834329a70 | 0922883f-2126-4043-99dd-2da09486321d | ready | 0.06 | | 00:18 |
| arosen | success :) | 00:18 |
| fungi | arosen: looks like beer-thirty to me | 00:18 |
| arosen | i see it launching my snapshotted images now | 00:18 |
| arosen | Yup soon :) | 00:18 |
| fungi | oh, right, don't celebrate until the nodes themselves are ready and reachable ;) | 00:19 |
| arosen | haha yea. In spawning state. We only have 1gig interfaces on our servers | 00:19 |
| jhesketh | fungi: Did you put the comment on the wrong line here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110807/3/modules/zuul/manifests/init.pp | 00:19 |
| arosen | so it's going to take a little while probably. | 00:19 |
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| arosen | alight got to bounce. Thanks again everyone for your help getting this up :) | 00:21 |
| fungi | jhesketh: how very astute of you. yes i did indeed! | 00:22 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add a new project stackforge/nova-solver-scheduler https://review.openstack.org/108131 | 00:24 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: did you not want there to be a third party section in infra-manual? http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/third-party.html | 00:25 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: I had proposed the patch and did hope you would reveiew | 00:26 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106736/ | 00:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Zuul depends indirectly on lxml https://review.openstack.org/110807 | 00:27 |
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| asselin | fungi, let me know when you need another test. I have a snapshot so can test easily. | 00:38 |
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| ianw | fungi: check-tempest-dsvm-centos7: NOT_REGISTERED <- haven't seen that before, know off-hand what it means? | 00:48 |
| ianw | (seen on zuul) | 00:48 |
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| ianw | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul/tree/zuul/launcher/gearman.py#n350 i guess | 00:50 |
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| anteaya | ianw: zuul can't find the job | 00:54 |
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| fungi | asselin: if you wanted to test the latest patchset on https://review.openstack.org/110807 and provide feedback on the review, then that would be great | 00:55 |
| anteaya | ianw: last time I saw it, configuration called for precise node and the jobs needed trusty | 00:55 |
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| fungi | ianw: yeah, that's usually a sign that slaves capable of running that job haven't been added to jenkins masters | 00:56 |
| fungi | ianw: it could mean that you ran check experimental between when the zuul config change was applied but before jjb finished running on any of the jenkins masters which had the two available nodes for it | 00:57 |
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| ianw | fungi: that seems likely, i'll try again later and see if it just magically fixes itself :) | 00:58 |
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| fungi | currently one of jenkins02 or jenkins04 will need to register it | 00:58 |
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| fungi | ianw: seems to be registered now... http://paste.openstack.org/show/89285/ | 01:00 |
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| anteaya | asked not to be disturbed in my room | 01:03 |
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| anteaya | had three people call so far this morning to confirm I don't want to be disturbed in my room | 01:03 |
| ianw | fungi: great, thanks | 01:03 |
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| fungi | anteaya: that does indeed sound counterproductive | 01:03 |
| anteaya | hopefully we can reduce to a once daily call for the rest of the stay | 01:04 |
| anteaya | but they all have such a sweet accent | 01:05 |
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| fungi | no doubt they say the same thing about you ;_ | 01:06 |
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| anteaya | fungi: ha ha ha, good point | 01:09 |
| * anteaya goes in search of food | 01:11 | |
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| tchaypo | Does the infra team maintain the etherpad? | 01:39 |
| tchaypo | anteaya: when do you arrive in brisneyland? | 01:40 |
| pleia2 | yep | 01:40 |
| tchaypo | I can't get https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-incubator-rationalise-ui to load in any browser... | 01:40 |
| tchaypo | but I can't tell if that's just the shitty airport wifi, or something else | 01:40 |
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| pleia2 | hm, seems to update the count of users on the pad but stuck on "loading" for the content for me too | 01:42 |
| pleia2 | need someone who can log into the server to poke around probably | 01:42 |
| tchaypo | ah, not just me. | 01:43 |
| tchaypo | in a way that's better... | 01:43 |
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| mordred | tchaypo, pleia2: there are two stuck abiword processes | 02:03 |
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| ianw | fungi: hmm, another run and still seeing "NOT_REGISTERED" | 02:05 |
| tchaypo | ... abiword? | 02:05 |
| tchaypo | isn't that a gui word processor thing? | 02:06 |
| ianw | i guess because it went to jenkins06 : https://jenkins06.openstack.org/job/check-grenade-dsvm-neutron/4579/ | 02:06 |
| tchaypo | surely you aren't saying that etherpad uses that in the background? | 02:06 |
| mordred | it does to handle the "import from word document" feature | 02:06 |
| tchaypo | that'd be as insane as spinning up openoffice *with a gui* just to convert a word document someone submitted to your web service into html | 02:06 |
| tchaypo | .... *sigh* | 02:07 |
| mordred | yah | 02:07 |
| StevenK | "catdoc" doesn't work? | 02:09 |
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| anteaya | tchaypo: arrived this morning, just had food - we can call it lunch | 02:10 |
| StevenK | pleia2: O HAI, how are you feeling?[6~ | 02:11 |
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| StevenK | Silly laptop keyboard. I just get used to my desktop keyboard again, and I'm back on the laptop. | 02:11 |
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| anteaya | StevenK: it is a squid with a hat on | 02:12 |
| anteaya | [6~ | 02:12 |
| StevenK | Hahaha | 02:12 |
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| StevenK | anteaya: Does lunch time mean you're in Brisbane? | 02:13 |
| anteaya | yeah | 02:13 |
| StevenK | Excellent :-) | 02:13 |
| * StevenK waiting at the gate -- flight boards in roughly 30 minutes | 02:14 | |
| anteaya | blanched broccoli with fresh lemon juice just made my "addressing jet lag" list | 02:15 |
| anteaya | StevenK: safe flight | 02:15 |
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| StevenK | anteaya: It's not really a flight, it's only 80 minutes. | 02:15 |
| StevenK | That makes it more an annoyance. :-P | 02:16 |
| anteaya | you still have to get frisked, then sit still and listen to the seatbelt and lifejacket chat | 02:16 |
| anteaya | so it is a flight | 02:16 |
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| StevenK | No frisking. Domestic security is empty your pockets, take laptop out of the bag and walk through a metal detector | 02:17 |
| tchaypo | my flight also boards in about 12 minutes.. so I guess I should think about heading to the gate soon | 02:18 |
| StevenK | And there were a whole 2 people in front of me, so I don't get the crowding feeling from international security | 02:18 |
| anteaya | StevenK: nice | 02:19 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: So far, there's one woman here manning the gate desk looking bored | 02:19 |
| anteaya | tchaypo: safe flight | 02:19 |
| StevenK | anteaya: tchaypo and I may have to capture you for dinner :-) | 02:19 |
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| anteaya | I went through security in TO and had zero lineup and more agents than I had ever seen, all with nothing to do | 02:19 |
| anteaya | and someone was learning the x-ray | 02:20 |
| StevenK | anteaya: Unless you'd rather do what my wife does when she's travelling and have sleep for dinner | 02:20 |
| anteaya | so I had my bag unpacked and checked | 02:20 |
| anteaya | StevenK: dinner is fine | 02:20 |
| anteaya | vegetarian with lots of green vegetables and as little oil as possible is what I need to eat for the rest of the day | 02:20 |
| anteaya | and tomorrow | 02:20 |
| tchaypo | kj | 02:21 |
| tchaypo | gah | 02:21 |
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| anteaya | StevenK: no, had a 4 hour nap after I arrived, so I should be good until after 8pm tonight, that is my goal | 02:21 |
| StevenK | anteaya: Getting back from Raleigh, my flight landed at 6am -- staying awake until 9:30pm required a fair amount of commitment | 02:22 |
| anteaya | StevenK: no kidding | 02:22 |
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| anteaya | that was my goal but I had to sleep once I got here | 02:22 |
| StevenK | anteaya: Did you sleep on the plane? | 02:22 |
| anteaya | about 2 hours | 02:22 |
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| anteaya | which is unbelievalbe for me | 02:23 |
| anteaya | my last best time was 45 minutes | 02:23 |
| StevenK | Nice! | 02:23 |
| anteaya | I had a dream the whole time of standing up and finding a bed | 02:23 |
| StevenK | anteaya: I got roughly 9 hours on the way to Raleigh, but I cheated. | 02:23 |
| anteaya | StevenK: drugs? | 02:23 |
| StevenK | anteaya: International business class | 02:23 |
| anteaya | StevenK: ohhhhh | 02:23 |
| anteaya | nice | 02:24 |
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| StevenK | anteaya: I take Melatonin on flights to help me sleep | 02:24 |
| anteaya | I can't do anything like that | 02:24 |
| StevenK | I got about 6 hours on the way back to Sydney, which wasn't too bad | 02:24 |
| anteaya | I don't sleep mostly because my body would get a kink in it somewhere | 02:24 |
| anteaya | StevenK: cool | 02:24 |
| anteaya | so I actually do my spine good by getting up and walking in place on a regular basis | 02:25 |
| StevenK | anteaya: So being able to lie flat in business class would mean you could sleep? | 02:25 |
| anteaya | yes | 02:25 |
| anteaya | I'm waiting for the fifth element style horizontal sleeping chambers | 02:26 |
| StevenK | Like a Japanese capsule hotel? | 02:26 |
| anteaya | no drugs for mine, but I woulnd't need them if I was lying flat | 02:26 |
| anteaya | yeah | 02:26 |
| StevenK | Some of friends of mine stayed one night in one when they last visited Japan. | 02:27 |
| StevenK | Which I thought was just madness on their part | 02:27 |
| anteaya | what did they say about it? | 02:27 |
| anteaya | why madness? | 02:27 |
| StevenK | anteaya: Cramped, but kind of cool | 02:27 |
| anteaya | interesting | 02:27 |
| anteaya | yeah, not much for doing yoga in it | 02:27 |
| anteaya | but better than sleeping in a chair | 02:28 |
| StevenK | anteaya: I prefer some modicum of space in my hotel rooms -- and my own bathroom is also very nice | 02:28 |
| anteaya | oh yes | 02:28 |
| anteaya | but if the choice is airplane seat or capsule, I'm for capsule | 02:29 |
| StevenK | They should totally fit out an airplane with them | 02:29 |
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| anteaya | agreed | 02:31 |
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| StevenK | I'm not sure if it would end up with less or more density, but I haven't thought about it too deeply | 02:32 |
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| StevenK | Hm, a dot-matrix printer has just clattered to life at the gate desk, and there is no one there ... | 02:34 |
| anteaya | StevenK: I did, you would have to reconfigure lugagge | 02:34 |
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| anteaya | StevenK: ghost in the machine | 02:35 |
| StevenK | Heh | 02:35 |
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| * StevenK spies an A380 taxiing | 02:35 | |
| anteaya | and if you went with a centre aisle all the pods could be the same length | 02:35 |
| anteaya | and I am thinking you could go 5 high | 02:36 |
| StevenK | anteaya: You could easily stack them 3 high | 02:36 |
| anteaya | then you would have to do sizing based on girth | 02:36 |
| anteaya | I think you could do 5 in some places | 02:36 |
| anteaya | seating would have a claustraphobia rating | 02:37 |
| anteaya | so the lower your rating the cheaper and smaller your capsule | 02:37 |
| anteaya | you coulnd't even call it seating anymore | 02:37 |
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| StevenK | Haha | 02:38 |
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| StevenK | -> boarding | 02:42 |
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| anteaya | StevenK: enjoy the seatbelt demo | 02:49 |
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| jamielennox | hey all, 2 +2s but no +A on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108832/ - bumping keystoneclient version, can someone kick it off? | 05:21 |
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| tchaypo | thanks gus | 06:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Create specs.o.o/index.html https://review.openstack.org/110756 | 06:43 |
| jogo | clarkb mordred: on a plane to australia so about to go offline. but it appears this broke Salvatore and minesweeper | 06:49 |
| jogo | I am afraid that this change is breaking people, not 100% clear exactly why yet, when we should have given people a warning before making the change | 06:49 |
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| jogo | clarkb mordred: see the linked ML thread I refered too | 06:51 |
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| ihrachyshka | so we still get issues in havana with centos machines without libffi-devel installed: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic-stable/periodic-nova-python26-havana/11c061d/console.html | 06:55 |
| ihrachyshka | any ideas where to fix it? or who can handle that? | 06:55 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1350466 in nova "deadlock in scheduler expire reservation periodic task" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350466 | 06:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Skripnick proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Uncomment NUMBER_FAKE_NOVA_COMPUTE https://review.openstack.org/110907 | 11:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Skripnick proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Uncomment NUMBER_FAKE_NOVA_COMPUTE https://review.openstack.org/110907 | 11:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Remove unneeded definitions of Python Source Code Encoding https://review.openstack.org/110912 | 11:32 |
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| ttx | fungi: there is a bit of an issue with the stable-maint group ownership (https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/120,info) | 11:37 |
| ttx | fungi: the group is self-owned, and some people were added by who-knows-who | 11:37 |
| ttx | fungi: ideally that group should be owned by "Release Managers" | 11:38 |
| ttx | I can't make the change myself though | 11:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Skripnick proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add rally job for heat with fake_virt https://review.openstack.org/110920 | 11:41 |
| fungi | ttx: i'll fix it | 11:41 |
| ttx | fungi: thx! | 11:42 |
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| fungi | ttx: changed | 11:43 |
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| adalbas | anteaya, sdague : I have a blog post about continuous integration I would like to publish. Do I need to be author in the blog for that or should I send it for review? | 12:32 |
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| joa | fungi: around ? | 12:56 |
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| DinaBelova | jhesketh, o/ | 13:24 |
| DinaBelova | you here? | 13:24 |
| jhesketh | Hey DinaBelova | 13:24 |
| DinaBelova | about the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110247/ | 13:24 |
| jhesketh | I am, but it's 1130pm and I'm about to head off | 13:24 |
| DinaBelova | oh, sorry :) | 13:24 |
| DinaBelova | now I know your TZ :D | 13:25 |
| jhesketh | heh, all good | 13:25 |
| DinaBelova | okay, so let's move this for tomorrow.. | 13:25 |
| jhesketh | I'd like to help, but I think that change needs baby sitting | 13:25 |
| DinaBelova | just have no idea what happened there - I went through the logs and they seem not having any actual reason.. | 13:25 |
| DinaBelova | jhesketh, hehe, what do you mean by 'baby sitting' here? | 13:26 |
| DinaBelova | well, anyway :) | 13:26 |
| jhesketh | heh, I mean sticking around so that when the world blows up we haven't bravely run off to not fix it | 13:26 |
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| DinaBelova | :D | 13:30 |
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| jp_at_hp | Quick question on oslo.rootwrap/1.3.0.0a1 - is there a policy not to include it in global-requirements, or will it get added as a constraint now that teams are starting to add it to their own project requirements? Is there somewhere I can see docs on the process that causes global-requirements to be updated? | 13:30 |
| jhesketh | anyways, I'm going to get some sleep. I have to help run the openstack miniconf at pycon-au.org tomorrow morning! | 13:31 |
| DinaBelova | jhesketh, good night :) | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for unmet dependencies https://review.openstack.org/110956 | 13:32 |
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| fungi | joa: what was the question? | 13:46 |
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| fungi | jp_at_hp: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/global-requirements.txt#n58 has oslo.rootwrap>=1.3.0.0a1 | 13:47 |
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| fungi | jp_at_hp: the git blame trail leads to https://review.openstack.org/109338 | 13:49 |
| jp_at_hp | fungi: yeah - maybe I shoulda looked first, sorry ;) But that was quite a while ago. any reason it hasn't populated pypi.openstack.org? | 13:49 |
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| fungi | jp_at_hp: i see it at http://pypi.openstack.org/simple/oslo.rootwrap/ | 13:49 |
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| fungi | jp_at_hp: do you have some process using our mirror (not a great idea)? if so, you may be using our old mirror. we've updated all our ci to use our current mirror | 13:50 |
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| jp_at_hp | I was looking at http://pypi.openstack.org/openstack/oslo.rootwrap/ | 13:50 |
| jp_at_hp | so I guess that's the old mirror? | 13:50 |
| fungi | jp_at_hp: yep. that's the old abandoned mirror. we should just delete it to make it more obvious. i'll get some consensus from the rest of the team today hopefully | 13:51 |
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| jp_at_hp | fungi: thanks - even just an addition to the index to warn would be helpful... | 13:51 |
| jp_at_hp | might make me not ask stupid questions in future. | 13:52 |
| fungi | jp_at_hp: probably better to just delete it so that it's immediately broken for anyone using it, rather than subtly broken but stale. most people who are going to be affected won't likely go there with a web browser and wouldn't see any message we posted on it as a result | 13:52 |
| jp_at_hp | either works for me :D | 13:53 |
| joa | fungi: I was wondering, for a cinder-specific CI set up (testing a vendor driver specifically), how is managed the specific configuration ? I can't seem to find any relevant script. Does it use any pre-installed configuration file; or does the devstack setup erase all that ? | 13:53 |
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| jp_at_hp | a little knowledge... I figured since it wasn't in the mirror it couldn't be in global-requirements, so didn't check :( | 13:53 |
| fungi | jp_at_hp: that was true of the old mirror (back when we were updating it) but now we run a full pypi mirror using a tool called bandersnatch | 13:54 |
| fungi | so we pull anything which is on pypi.python.org into our mirror even if it's not actually used by openstack | 13:54 |
| fungi | joa: we use something called devstack-gate to construct a devstack localrc based on a bunch of different environment variables | 13:55 |
| fungi | joa: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/ | 13:55 |
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| fungi | joa: it's basically just a collection of shell scripts which assemble the test scenario/configuration | 13:56 |
| jp_at_hp | oh yeah - the tool that doesn't work behind proxies :( | 13:56 |
| fungi | jp_at_hp: i hear they're working to solve proxy support in bandersnatch since the python community is settling on it as the "one true way" to run a full pypi mirror | 13:56 |
| jp_at_hp | I'll look forward ot that | 13:57 |
| fungi | jp_at_hp: though we're also talking about sticking our mirror on an afs backend, in which case you could just mount it with an afs client and, if desired, rsync it to another local filesystem or something | 13:57 |
| jp_at_hp | well, if that happens and becomes an option, it'll be something to consider. I knida like things that are here now and working ;) | 13:59 |
| fungi | me too | 13:59 |
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| dansmith | is something up with gerrit? I'm getting a weird error trying to save a comment | 14:00 |
| fungi | dansmith: no idea... details? | 14:00 |
| joa | fungi: Soo, let's assume that I need a specific cinder configuration (or at least a few parameters). Those can be set as variables into the localrc ? Or is there another advised way ? | 14:00 |
| dansmith | fungi: "Invalid authentication method. In order to authenticate, prefix the REST endpoint URL with /a/ (e.g. http://example.com/a/projects/)." | 14:01 |
| joa | (I saw the devstack-gate repo and some scripts) | 14:01 |
| dansmith | fungi: I just logged in about five minutes ago, so my auth should be good | 14:01 |
| fungi | dansmith: weird. that's coming from the rest api, not the webui | 14:01 |
| dansmith | fungi: yeah, seems that way, but it's when I click the save button on an inline comment | 14:02 |
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| fungi | dansmith: definitely nothing out of the ordinary on the cacti graphs for the server. what's the review url? | 14:02 |
| dansmith | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101355/5/nova/tests/objects/test_fields.py,cm | 14:02 |
| fungi | may be something subtly corrupted with it somehow | 14:02 |
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| fungi | dansmith: you're getting that when trying to add an inline comment on that file? | 14:03 |
| dansmith | fungi: yep, line 236 | 14:03 |
| dansmith | fungi: let me open a new browser and try from scratch | 14:03 |
| dansmith | fungi: just didn't want to lose my comment in the buffer, but I'll save it somewhere | 14:04 |
| fungi | i can add a comment on that line, but it may have to do with something going on in your browser session or the specific comment contents | 14:04 |
| dansmith | fungi: ah, navigating anywhere in gerrit gives me that again | 14:04 |
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| dansmith | fungi: so maybe something up with my token or something.. just so weird | 14:04 |
| fungi | okay, so your session went sideways | 14:04 |
| fungi | that's not the usual error message i get when that happens | 14:05 |
| dansmith | 'cause I *just* signed in | 14:05 |
| fungi | mostly what i run into is when i sign in with one tab but i already had another review tab open, and then i try to do things in that other tab without refreshing it first | 14:05 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:05 |
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| fungi | but in that case it just complains that my session's expired and i need to log in again | 14:06 |
| dansmith | fungi: okay, log out and back in worked, but still.. weird | 14:06 |
| dansmith | fungi: yeah, that's what I'm used to | 14:06 |
| fungi | noted. i'll keep an eye out for it in case it's not just you | 14:06 |
| dansmith | okie, thanks | 14:06 |
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| fungi | joa: so, localrc is a mechanism for configuring devstack... you may need a custom hook for devstack if you need to add some machinery which it doesn't have integrated support for (new configuration options and such) | 14:07 |
| joa | fungi: Well, I guessed there should be a proper way to do it already, since I doubt I'm the first to setup cI for a vendor-driver in cinder, but you might not know of it ? | 14:08 |
| fungi | joa: i can show you some examples of jobs we run which export custom hook functions to extend devstack-gate | 14:08 |
| joa | yeah, it would be great at least as an example | 14:08 |
| joa | I'll see afterwards what I can make of it | 14:08 |
| fungi | joa: but no, i don't really know what the other third-party ci systems are doing to support custom cinder drivers. it could just be that you need to pass a configuration variable into devstack's localrc to tell it what backend driver to use... that's probably a question for your third-party ci peers or maybe the devstack maintainers in #openstack-qa | 14:09 |
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| joa | mhh okay | 14:10 |
| joa | might be a good idea to ask there then | 14:10 |
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| joa | thanks :) | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Assign CentOS 7 DevStack jobs to correct nodes https://review.openstack.org/110949 | 15:14 |
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| fungi | ianw: ^ i'll rerun check experimental on the change you were testing once zuul's updated with that | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Silence drupal cron job https://review.openstack.org/110992 | 15:21 |
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| phschwartz | Heads up, you guys might hear other complaints. I talked with Todd and opened an issue. The problem I had with my talk summisions (even thought they did go through), also cut a co-speaker off and I had to re-add him | 15:50 |
| phschwartz | :( I think it was safari related. Damn me for trying to save battery power. | 15:50 |
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| fungi | good to know--thanks! | 15:51 |
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| sdague | adalbas: I'm not sure I understand your question about blog authoring | 15:58 |
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| fungi | ianw: success! (but also exciting new failure!) http://logs.openstack.org/16/110516/2/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-centos7/53ed92f/console.html#_2014-07-31_15_59_39_523 | 16:01 |
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| krotscheck | Any Infra core out there (other than jeblair) feel like a nice, juicy puppet review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98007/ | 16:03 |
| krotscheck | mordred: How’s your week been, any opportunity to do a launchpad import? | 16:03 |
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| armax | guys thanks again for approving the infra-related dvr patches…we’re successfully running Neutron DVR experimental jobs :) | 16:22 |
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| adalbas | sdague, i want to make a blog post in the openstack blog section. how can i do that? | 16:24 |
| sdague | adalbas: you can add yourself to the planet | 16:26 |
| adalbas | sdague, ok, so it should go by the community, instead of the main blogging. | 16:28 |
| sdague | yeh | 16:29 |
| adalbas | ok, i found the info now. tks! | 16:29 |
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| pleia2 | good morning | 16:36 |
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| morganfainberg | pleia2, morning :) | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | afazekas proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Neutron default tenant network type vxlan https://review.openstack.org/105569 | 16:49 |
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| ctracey | hello infra. had a question about log retention. | 16:50 |
| ctracey | are build logs discarded on a periodic basis? | 16:50 |
| ctracey | I am looking for some havana build logs with no luck | 16:51 |
| jeblair | ctracey: we keep them for about 4 months | 16:51 |
| clarkb | jogo the fix is to fix minesweeper not go back to precise | 16:51 |
| ctracey | ouch | 16:51 |
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| jeblair | (we'd like to keep them longer, but, well, we ran out of space) | 16:51 |
| jeblair | (we're working on putting them in swift and hope we can increase the retention period again when that's done) | 16:51 |
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| ctracey | ok - i understand. | 16:52 |
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| jeblair | (4 months is about 9 tb) | 16:52 |
| ctracey | that is less than ideal for a number of reasons tho...must say | 16:52 |
| fungi | ctracey: here's what the current (compressed!) log storage looks like for 4 months retention http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=717&rra_id=all | 16:53 |
| ctracey | there is no way to know what dependencies were pulled in by pip | 16:53 |
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| ctracey | in the very least, perhaps we should augment the build process to retain that information | 16:54 |
| fungi | i'm amazed that we seem to have turned a corner with log volume and it's now trending downward | 16:54 |
| jeblair | probably expring those _huge_ debug logs | 16:54 |
| clarkb | that | 16:54 |
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| clarkb | we made noise and it seems to have helped :) | 16:54 |
| ctracey | or perhaps I should pose that as a question... | 16:54 |
| fungi | ctracey: what's the specific use case of knowing what packages were tested during a job which ran 4 months ago? | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | afazekas proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Neutron default tenant network type vxlan https://review.openstack.org/105569 | 16:54 |
| clarkb | also mysql slow logs | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | afazekas proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: multi-node dg setup https://review.openstack.org/106043 | 16:55 |
| ctracey | fungi: getting the same bits on a box | 16:55 |
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| phschwartz | fungi: Just to give you the heads up, we have been working on a quick script that can track and prune dead deletes across our env's, but not easy due to the seperation of our api's. | 16:55 |
| fungi | ctracey: have a particular patch+job in mind? | 16:55 |
| ctracey | well...this is the first time i ran into this specific issue | 16:56 |
| fungi | ctracey: just trying to figure out where people are wanting to repeat jobs from so long ago | 16:56 |
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| ctracey | fungi: yeah...good questions :) | 16:56 |
| fungi | phschwartz: awesome--that'll help tremendously until your nova patch is in use | 16:56 |
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| ctracey | fungi: I have a tool that builds system packages from a specific git ref | 16:56 |
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| ctracey | it pulls the project at the given ref, consults gerrit for the hard pip dependencies used, and builds *that* into an venv/rpm/deb | 16:57 |
| ctracey | pypi moves too much | 16:57 |
| ctracey | in my case, I am fetching the build logs and parsing for the pip install...which is less than ideal | 16:58 |
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| ctracey | i guess bottom line is that with the current setup there is no way to get the same bits on a box | 16:58 |
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| fungi | ctracey: yeah, particularly you don't necessarily want to pin to specific pip package versions because they'll have known bugs, security vulnerabilities, et cetera fixed in later versions... which is why we keep testing stable release branches with new dependencies over their lifetime | 16:58 |
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| mordred | fungi: I still disagree with that, btw | 16:59 |
| * mordred thinks we should have hard == pins at all times | 16:59 | |
| fungi | mordred: fair. i didn't say i agreed that it was appropriate, just echoing the common rationale cited ;) | 16:59 |
| ctracey | mordred: yes! | 16:59 |
| mordred | mainly because of how absolutely crappy every single python package is | 16:59 |
| mordred | fungi: :) | 16:59 |
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| ctracey | it wouldnt be much to just echo the pip dependencies out to a file and save that | 17:00 |
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| ctracey | i dont care so much about the logs themselves | 17:00 |
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| fungi | mordred: essentially, i think stable releases should be the domain of the distros, and they should (collectively) be deciding what's in the global requirements list for our ci on stable branches to most closely match what's being run in the wild | 17:00 |
| mordred | ctracey: that would not be particularly difficult to do | 17:00 |
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| ctracey | mordred: correct...but insanely useful | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | mordred how would you raise your pins over time? | 17:01 |
| ctracey | and...as long as the deprecation timeline is fixed at 2 cycles, we should at least save 12 months of being able to build exactly the same | 17:01 |
| clarkb | I think failing fast is best option there | 17:02 |
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| sdague | mordred: \\\\\\\\\\\ | 17:02 |
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| fungi | ctracey: effectively, right now we've not classed job logs for differing retention cycles, so ideally we'd need a proposal which identified, say, long-term and short-term retention parameters which we could generalize | 17:02 |
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| sdague | oops, stupid keyboard | 17:02 |
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| sdague | clarkb: honestly, if we wanted to go down that path we'd have a background job that tried the latest versions of things and if they passed, would propose them to requirements | 17:02 |
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| fungi | sdague: though the pip pinning discussion comes back around to the challenges i encountered the last time i tried to implement it... | 17:03 |
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| ctracey | im not talking about pinning...im talking just tell me what was used...pinned or not | 17:04 |
| fungi | sdague: in particular, we have to identify second+ order dependencies and declare/pin those too, and they also potentially differ between interpreter versions | 17:04 |
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| sdague | fungi: sure | 17:04 |
| sdague | but richard has some of those tools now | 17:04 |
| mordred | clarkb: you'd raise your pins over time the same way as now | 17:04 |
| mordred | yeah - what sdague said | 17:04 |
| fungi | sdague: yep, so possibly easier than when i last attempted it | 17:04 |
| sdague | ctracey: we have a pip-freeze captured during the run | 17:04 |
| ctracey | sdague: but useless when the logs disappear is my point | 17:05 |
| sdague | ctracey: sure | 17:05 |
| sdague | ok, I must have missed something | 17:05 |
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| fungi | ctracey: yeah, so basically the way our current expiration mechanism works is by file name pattern. picking specific globs to retain for longer wouldn't be too hard... however all this changes with object storage (have we worked out our retention/expiration mechanisms for that yet?) | 17:06 |
| sdague | ctracey: why do you need long old build logs? | 17:06 |
| mordred | fungi: I think we're going to assume that we can retain for forever | 17:06 |
| ctracey | sdague: im just gauging whether we would feel comfortable with instead of "pip freeze > <log>" do "pip freeze > pip.deps.log" | 17:06 |
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| fungi | sdague: ctracey wants a pip freeze from a particular job on a particular commit which was proposed to master in the havana timeframe to be able to recreate the build environment under which it ran | 17:07 |
| ctracey | sdague: because without it we cant rebuild something that is still out there | 17:07 |
| jeblair | mordred: i don't think we can assume we'll retain forever | 17:07 |
| sdague | fungi: vs. stable havana current runs? | 17:07 |
| ctracey | sdague: correct | 17:07 |
| fungi | sdague: apparently | 17:07 |
| ctracey | here is the use case... | 17:07 |
| ctracey | i have a stable/havana build from October | 17:08 |
| mordred | jeblair: sorry, that was more tongue in cheerk ... | 17:08 |
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| ctracey | upgrade 2 weeks ago and broken | 17:08 |
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| fungi | ctracey: you're installing from source+pip packages? | 17:09 |
| clarkb | pinning is just a headache. take six for example | 17:09 |
| jeblair | mordred: oh, cloud. lol. :) | 17:09 |
| fungi | ctracey: in theory your pip.log should tell you what upgraded from what to what... unless i'm misremembering how much detail it logs | 17:10 |
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| sdague | I don't think it's unreasonable to want to keep the logs for the history of all the supported releases if we could. At least for the "golden path" jobs | 17:10 |
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| ctracey | fungi: this particular use case is horizon from source, yes | 17:11 |
| fungi | sdague: agreed. i think we just need a proposal of what to keep for how long and what else to keep for how much longer and make sure it's implementable with our archive cleanup automation | 17:12 |
| sdague | fungi: sure | 17:12 |
| ctracey | i will double check the pip logs...but I think the point still stands that we should always be able to rebuild 2 releases back...that is just my opinion | 17:12 |
| fungi | with appropriate compromises where we need to make them if we're constrained on quota | 17:12 |
| sdague | ctracey: if you have a cloud to give us 30 TB of filesystem attached to a guest, it would help :) | 17:13 |
| fungi | ctracey: i'm not sure what "rebuild" means in this case. we basically release source tarballs, not "builds" (modulo some packaging-time-generated metadata) | 17:13 |
| ctracey | and, fwiw, that is the whole point of my tool dubbed "giftwrap"...so that you dont end up in the particular mess and pull dependencies on your own (tested) clock | 17:13 |
| ctracey | for large SPs and integrators, distro packages just dont cut it | 17:14 |
| ctracey | sdague: please dont misunderstand ....im not hating here :) | 17:14 |
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| ctracey | i agree the logs are basically useless...just the deps are super helpful | 17:14 |
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| mordred | thus the reason I think we should have complete pinned requirements lists | 17:15 |
| ctracey | mordred: ++ | 17:15 |
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| clarkb | mordred doing so will break on eg six without atomic commits across projects | 17:16 |
| fungi | ctracey: one thing which could probably help would be a change history of what was on pypi at specific points in time which matched the version specs in our global requirements list | 17:16 |
| fungi | per branch | 17:16 |
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| ctracey | correct | 17:16 |
| ctracey | that is helpful as well | 17:16 |
| sdague | clarkb: will it? Global req will say 'f-u' to the project specific bits | 17:16 |
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| sdague | that still gives us the global lever | 17:17 |
| sdague | as long as we ensure they are synchronized before release we're going | 17:17 |
| ctracey | but a pip freeze to a file would guarantee what you built with | 17:17 |
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| sdague | though I guess that doesn't help the CD folks | 17:17 |
| fungi | ctracey: then that could be matched up to our openstack/openstack metaproject which tracks the sequence of all commits in integrated server projects | 17:17 |
| clarkb | sdague: it did in the past | 17:17 |
| ctracey | fungi: yes | 17:17 |
| clarkb | with g-r | 17:17 |
| ctracey | this is the whole point of giftwrap | 17:17 |
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| ctracey | we need system packages with no moving parts | 17:18 |
| sdague | clarkb: that was a mirror artifact right? | 17:18 |
| fungi | ctracey: again, we don't really "build" with anything. it would hopefully tell you what versions we tested against at a specific point in time, but that also may not be super interesting without also knowing what tests we ran and what they exercised | 17:18 |
| ctracey | and currently that is extremely hard to so | 17:18 |
| ctracey | do* | 17:18 |
| clarkb | no it was anartifact of using forward compat bits | 17:18 |
| clarkb | you cant pin forward compat | 17:18 |
| ctracey | fungi: yes I am overloading "build" here (though they are called "Builds" in gerrid :) ) | 17:19 |
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| ctracey | but the point is that you are testing the code...and presumably the developer that submitted the change tested it | 17:19 |
| ctracey | there is some assurance that what you built with works | 17:20 |
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| fungi | ctracey: it sounds more like what you want to know is not test log related, but rather "if i installed openstack from a particular branch source+pip under a given interpreter version on date x, what versions of dependencies would have been pulled in at that time?" | 17:20 |
| ctracey | yes | 17:20 |
| ctracey | precisely | 17:20 |
| ctracey | here is another example from a while back... | 17:20 |
| ctracey | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/10214/extensionmanager-object-does-not-support-item-assignment/ | 17:21 |
| mordred | well - you can probably get that to some degree from openstack/openstack | 17:21 |
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| mordred | ctracey: do you know about openstack/openstack ? | 17:21 |
| ctracey | mordred: but there are no pips in there | 17:21 |
| fungi | and you might be able to *infer* that from our testing log data, but we don't specifically do just that without muddying it with other things | 17:21 |
| ctracey | yes | 17:21 |
| mordred | is the global requirements repo not in there? | 17:21 |
| fungi | and also it would have depended a great deal on what local system-provided dependencies you also happened to have installed from your distro which pip considered to already meet its needs | 17:21 |
| ctracey | which would also be a fine place to store that info! | 17:21 |
| ctracey | (and github probably has 30TB) :) | 17:22 |
| mordred | I think that if we had something like the richard "test specific pinned things and write them to global reqs" thing | 17:22 |
| ctracey | fungi: thats where a virtualenv comes in | 17:22 |
| mordred | then the fact that openstack/openstack already records the time relationship between projects and history | 17:22 |
| mordred | would contain pretty much whatever you need on the python layer | 17:22 |
| ctracey | yes | 17:22 |
| fungi | ctracey: virtualenv doesn't necessarily help there. are you creating your virtualenv with system site packages enabled? | 17:23 |
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| ctracey | fungi: i want each project to have its own venv | 17:23 |
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| fungi | ctracey: that gets amusing when you consider that a lot of the dependencies install-time link to system libraries outside the venv | 17:24 |
| fungi | and also when some python dependencies are even not pip installable (for example libvirt in the havana timeframe was not) | 17:24 |
| ctracey | fungi: correct...that is the whole "venvs are not transferrable" thing | 17:24 |
| ctracey | but can be mitigated pretty easily | 17:24 |
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| ctracey | fwiw...only a 0.3.0 but the code is over here: https://github.com/cloudcadre/giftwrap | 17:25 |
| fungi | ctracey: point being, what we installed while running some tests on a particular date probably doesn't give you enough information to infer what you actually installed on a particular platform on that date | 17:25 |
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| fungi | it might get you a start, but it's a poor proxy for that actual information | 17:26 |
| ctracey | i agree it doesnt give everything | 17:26 |
| ctracey | but it puts me in a *much* better spot than we are in now | 17:27 |
| fungi | so while i agree that we might benefit from varying retention periods for some kinds of test data, i think your use case would be better met by other mechanisms | 17:27 |
| arosen | fungi: i ran into an interesting issue with nodepool. So my vms get booted but nodepool can't ssh into them. I see my public key is on the host too. Once I update the host's sshd_config file to say PermitRootLogin Yes it works | 17:28 |
| ctracey | this is part of reason why "staying close to trunk" is rather difficult...too many moving parts | 17:28 |
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| fungi | ctracey: no argument there. we see it first-hand ;) | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Adds pip freeze output to pep8 job https://review.openstack.org/105701 | 17:29 |
| ctracey | you certainly do...and serious thanks for that! | 17:29 |
| fungi | arosen: hm... i believe we log in after the snapshot boot with a non-root account | 17:29 |
| fungi | arosen: which is part of why we make /etc/nodepool world-writeable | 17:30 |
| malini1 | hello..I need some help figuring out if/how we can run the marconi jobs in Trusty | 17:30 |
| ctracey | i have strong reasons for wanting to break free of distro packaging (as do many many many of the other large scale operators) and I think we should make this (more) possible | 17:30 |
| fungi | malini1: which jobs specifically? unit tests? | 17:30 |
| ctracey | there was an overwhleming sentiment at the last operators summit in march around this | 17:30 |
| malini1 | fungi: yes..we need the newer mongo/redis tht comes with Trusty | 17:30 |
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| fungi | malini1: have you tried running them yourself on trusty? it's fairly easy for us to switch the jobs to run on it once you're ready | 17:31 |
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| mordred | ctracey: I am with you on breaking free of distro packaging | 17:32 |
| fungi | mordred: this is where you make a pitch for tripleo ;) | 17:32 |
| malini1 | fungi: sure..I will confirm that it works in Trusty. Can I just ping you after that? | 17:32 |
| fungi | malini1: yep--feel free | 17:32 |
| malini1 | fungi: thanks! | 17:32 |
| mordred | ctracey: I think the larger issue is that so far we have not seen the project as a direct source distribution and rather as the source for people who make such things | 17:32 |
| mordred | ctracey: that needs to be sorted, and there are other logistical issues related to that | 17:32 |
| ctracey | mordred: yep. agree. | 17:33 |
| mordred | ctracey: so it does get slightly tricky - however, I'm in your camp in general | 17:33 |
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| ctracey | mordred: the point of giftwrap is that you can do this stuff, but that should you choose to go bespoke you can do that as well | 17:34 |
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| ctracey | mordred: i think if we provide the proper tooling then the foundation is not 'on the hook' as a distributor | 17:34 |
| arosen | fungi: I see the ssh key is the jenkins account on the node. I think the issue is with the sshd_config file it generates. It has: Mach host ci-puppetmaster.openstack.org but i think that should be my jenkin server ip | 17:34 |
| fungi | there are definitely quite a few larger openstack member companies, employing a significant percentage of our developer base, who see it as part of their business model to repackage openstack and make it usable. competing with them from within the project leads to rather interesting community dynamics | 17:35 |
| fungi | not that i don't think it should be a primary mission of ours as a project, just pointing out the hard truth | 17:35 |
| mordred | I don't mind "competing" if the way I compete is by fixing an organizational bug that they happen to be fixing | 17:36 |
| mordred | I'm not saying we're going to accomplish taht | 17:36 |
| mordred | but if there is a deficiency in the world and they exist to solve that | 17:36 |
| mordred | and we can make that deficiency go away | 17:36 |
| mordred | I'm not going to not do that just because they're making a business off of fixing a long-standing bug | 17:36 |
| mordred | now, is that possible or reasonable? maybe not | 17:36 |
| ctracey | fungi: its not competition. they can feel free to do so. | 17:36 |
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| mordred | but if we avoid doign that then we do wind up being strangly open core | 17:37 |
| ctracey | in fact we already have anvil which has similar functionality | 17:37 |
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| arosen | fungi: I think i need to update /etc/puppet/puppet.conf server variable. Let me see if that does the trick. | 17:37 |
| mordred | also, tripleo can produce point-in-time deployment artifacts without even bothering with distro pacakges | 17:37 |
| mordred | so it's not like the problem space isn't being explored :) | 17:38 |
| ctracey | mordred: as can my omnibus-openstack project | 17:38 |
| mordred | yup | 17:38 |
| fungi | arosen: okay, if not, i can point you to some more specific details about our deployment which you can check against | 17:38 |
| ctracey | lots of integrators dont want to be on hook for system dependency management as well | 17:38 |
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| mordred | once we stray outside of python pacakges though, things get MASSIVELY harder if we don't want to become a de facto linux distro though | 17:39 |
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| ctracey | mordred: correct! | 17:39 |
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| fungi | which is a topic we've waffled back and forth on over time | 17:39 |
| mordred | so far we're trying to balance on the edge of being forward looking but also being installable on existing distros without people needing an openstack project supplied distro-packages repo | 17:40 |
| mordred | the current libvirt issues show the warts on that | 17:40 |
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| arosen | fungi: Ah i need to delete the image and have it rebuild if i change /etc/puppet on my nodepool box? | 17:40 |
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| ctracey | mordred: libvirt is what made me rethink omnibus-openstack...the decision was easy | 17:41 |
| fungi | arosen: yeah, that is one downside is that anything you alter which changes the nature of the snapshot needs an image update. you don't have to delete the image, you can just initiate an image update on demand | 17:41 |
| clarkb | mordred: in fairness that issue is only for people installing test requirements | 17:41 |
| clarkb | we purposely did that (thank dprince for pointing it out in review) | 17:42 |
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| clarkb | mordred and test requirements put you in a special bracket imo | 17:42 |
| arosen | fungi: nodepool image-update local_01 d-p-c ? | 17:42 |
| fungi | clarkb: well, or for people who want to, e.g., run nova from source under a virtualenv in production | 17:42 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i think? | 17:42 |
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| clarkb | fungi that does not require test requirements | 17:42 |
| ctracey | fungi: that is the vast majority of large scale operators | 17:43 |
| fungi | arosen: right | 17:43 |
| ctracey | correct | 17:43 |
| mordred | clarkb: no. it's not | 17:43 |
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| fungi | clarkb: does nova not need python bindings for libvirt except when running tests? | 17:43 |
| mordred | clarkb: if you want to run nova for real, nova may want you to run with updated python-libvirt | 17:43 |
| clarkb | mordeed why not? it is for testing potentially broken code | 17:43 |
| mordred | I'm not talking about testing | 17:43 |
| mordred | I'm talking about actually running actual openstack | 17:43 |
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| mordred | and openstack being able to tell people that libvirt 0.9.8 is stupid | 17:44 |
| clarkb | fungi you just do what we have done for years | 17:44 |
| arosen | fungi: looks like it failed ? http://paste.openstack.org/show/89425/ | 17:44 |
| mordred | that's potentially an important thing for openstack to be able to say | 17:44 |
| mordred | because 0.9.8 MAY be something that's unreasonable | 17:44 |
| clarkb | mordred sure. I am just saying we didnt smack down all deployments of juno | 17:44 |
| clarkb | we might break a few test beds | 17:44 |
| fungi | clarkb: i mean if someone wants to run nova contained in a virtualenv without system site packages enabled | 17:44 |
| clarkb | I am ok with that but also ok with saying stop using old libvirt | 17:45 |
| clarkb | fungi then they must upgrade | 17:45 |
| ctracey | mordred: correct and if we think that something > 0.9.8 is good we can suggest it with a PPA that is listed in a deb recommends | 17:45 |
| clarkb | my change had nothing to do with that | 17:45 |
| arosen | fungi: ah it can't ssh to the host because of this config issue. I think i need to do a delete image and have it rebuild then. | 17:45 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep, just pointing out that the declared use case of isolating openstack component dependencies from one another and from teh system by using virtualenvs mostly depends on newer libvirt | 17:45 |
| mordred | ctracey: we _could_ - except what happens the instant we have ppas is that people use them in production | 17:45 |
| ctracey | mordred: this is true : | 17:46 |
| mordred | ctracey: and I mean even in the past (3 years ago) when the ppa was literally called "broken-testing-only-do-no-use" | 17:46 |
| ctracey | :) | 17:46 |
| ctracey | haha | 17:46 |
| mordred | we got bug reports that it was broken | 17:46 |
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| mordred | fungi: that's one of the reason I've been playing with docker instead of virtualenv | 17:47 |
| fungi | clarkb: so i was trying to explain why that wasn't actually doable for, in the originally stated case, havana openstack | 17:47 |
| mordred | because it could allow us to expand away from just virtualenv without accidentally providing something that looks like a production install | 17:47 |
| mordred | since you can't actually run iscsi in a container :) | 17:47 |
| clarkb | fungi gotcha | 17:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Create specs.o.o/index.html https://review.openstack.org/110756 | 17:48 |
| fungi | mordred: sure. makes sense. also comes with a complimentary handlebar mustache ;) | 17:48 |
| ctracey | "reading is fundamental" :) | 17:48 |
| jeblair | mordred, clarkb, fungi: can one of you look at 106114? it's stalling some things. | 17:48 |
| jeblair | mordred: i'm pretty sure docker is used in production ;P | 17:49 |
| fungi | jeblair: wanting the patch reworked? i can update it real quick | 17:49 |
| jeblair | fungi: er, no... i mean deciding whether the comment is a blocker :) | 17:50 |
| mordred | jeblair: yah - I know ... and righfully so actually | 17:50 |
| fungi | jeblair: ahh, seems to me like something we'd fix in a separate change, i agree | 17:50 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'm just saying you actually physically can't run openstack in production in docker | 17:50 |
| mordred | jeblair: because of iscsi | 17:50 |
| jeblair | (i think it's a good suggestion but not a blocker and would love someone not fungi to aprv it; or if it is a blocker, to say so and i'll redo it) | 17:50 |
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| jeblair | mordred: details that will deter no one! | 17:50 |
| fungi | i will at least leave a comment to that effect | 17:50 |
| mordred | jeblair: :) | 17:50 |
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| clarkb | I like the suggestion but am fine with a follow up change | 17:51 |
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| clarkb | will approve | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | afazekas proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: multi-node dg setup https://review.openstack.org/106043 | 17:52 |
| clarkb | done | 17:53 |
| jeblair | clarkb: 107841 may be of interest to you | 17:53 |
| fungi | also, on a tangentially related note, i have minimal sympathies for people who run code they haven't reviewed under an account which has sudo rights (or access to anything sensitive for that matter). always have a separate sudo-privileged account and only log into it when you need elevated permissions for things | 17:53 |
| fungi | if i tried to run test.sh on my test system, it would complain up and down about sudo not working and would also e-mail me | 17:54 |
| clarkb | jeblair thanks | 17:54 |
| jeblair | clarkb: is 108155 going to work or is it going to get caught up in the default node functions and end up requesting precise? | 17:55 |
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| clarkb | jeblair it needs a zuul layout update | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Make POSTGRES gate job run eventlet keystone https://review.openstack.org/106460 | 17:56 |
| clarkb | pcrews are you around to talk logstash tags? | 17:56 |
| pcrews | clarkb: aye - what's up | 17:56 |
| clarkb | pcrews the tags are used to know how to parse tge files. eg oslofmt says this file is in oslo log format | 17:57 |
| clarkb | pcrews the files you have added dont seem to have tags that correspond to formats | 17:57 |
| clarkb | pcrews its ok to have what you did byt we need format info too | 17:58 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: oh is that how youre handling having a bajillion different formats? | 17:58 |
| clarkb | yup | 17:59 |
| pcrews | ah - gotcha, I was not aware of this - I thought it was more for human digging through kibana (/me puts on dunce cap). *that* makes several things click and I'll see about fixing it. Should I WIP that review until I get it sorted? | 17:59 |
| clarkb | sure | 17:59 |
| pcrews | clarkb: many thanks for the info :) | 18:00 |
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| clarkb | see modules/openstack_project/templates/logstash/indexer.conf.erbfor the logstash side of the config | 18:00 |
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| pcrews | I was going to be poking at that for this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1350121 :) Your info has most likely helped w/ that too. | 18:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1350121 in openstack-ci "logstash has empty "%{logmessage}" messages vs. actual content for many files" [Undecided,New] | 18:03 |
| clarkb | hrm I think that may be related to failed multiline parsing | 18:03 |
| jeblair | annegentle: i'm confused by your first comment on the docs-publishing specs. bouth http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/ and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/havana/ exist and have the expected content | 18:04 |
| jeblair | as does http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/icehouse/ | 18:04 |
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| jeblair | annegentle: i was trying to illustrate the "overlay doc builds for different versions into one publishing tree" thing that happens with master and other branches | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Create git repo and jenkins jobs for oslo.serialization https://review.openstack.org/108861 | 18:10 |
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| bknudson | this review says starting gate 2 days ago -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109820/3 | 18:15 |
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| bknudson | I don't see it in zuul status... is there some way to get it back in the queue? | 18:16 |
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| jeblair | bknudson: reapproval, or 'recheck no bug' should do it | 18:17 |
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| bknudson | that's what I thought, but I wanted to ask first. | 18:18 |
| jeblair | bknudson: i'm trying to track down what happened to it in the logs | 18:18 |
| jerdfelt | so i have a review that got 2 +2s and a +A a week ago but jenkins never started the gate process for it | 18:18 |
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| jeblair | jerdfelt: link? | 18:19 |
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| jerdfelt | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109104/ | 18:19 |
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| jerdfelt | i think it was because it was dependent on another change when the +A happened. that did get merged but this just stalled out | 18:20 |
| jeblair | jerdfelt: hrm. it's supposed to pull it in automatically when that happens. i'll dig into that one too. in the mean time, reapproval or 'recheck no bug' should kick it | 18:20 |
| jerdfelt | it needs a rebase anyway | 18:21 |
| jerdfelt | just wanted to let you know since it looks like something broke along the way | 18:21 |
| jeblair | bknudson: ah, that change was kicked out of the queue because a change it depended on failed; the fact that zuul did not report that is a bug that has a fix, but hasn't been deployed | 18:22 |
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| bknudson | jeblair: great, thanks for looking into it | 18:23 |
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| wilfredo | Hello everybody, I am planning to install my first Third-Party CI. Anyone available for basic questions? | 18:27 |
| vhoward | wilfredo: i can try my best | 18:29 |
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| wilfredo | vhoward: ok, thanks. My first doubt is if there are different types of CI servers. For instance, I work with Cinder, will be necessary any customizations for it? | 18:31 |
| amitgandhi | hi, i am wanting to create a new irc channel for an openstack related project i am working on. is there any limitations on who can prefix their channel name with openstack- ? | 18:31 |
| jeblair | jerdfelt: got it -- the vote from jenkins on 109104 was too old and did not meet the "freshness" check when zuul tried to pull it in because its parent was enqueued. | 18:31 |
| jeblair | sdague, jhesketh, clarkb, fungi: ^ exciting new way the freshness check behaves unexpectedly | 18:32 |
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| jerdfelt | jeblair: cool, glad it looked like it was easy to troubleshoot :) | 18:33 |
| fungi | jeblair: ahh, yep. we probably want it to recheck the child change under those circumstances rather than just ignore it | 18:34 |
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| vhoward | wilfredo: we personally use jenkins | 18:35 |
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| jeblair | fungi: unfortunately, we moved some of those things to pipeline requirements to stop the auto-enquing of dependencies when the reqs weren't met | 18:37 |
| jeblair | fungi: this has succeeded | 18:37 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i'm not sure how to get a change with an old vote into the _check_ pipeline when its parent goes into the _gate_ pipeline. | 18:37 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, it's similar to how it fails to enqueue a child change if there is no jenkins vote present at all (as a result of an outage or other bug) | 18:38 |
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| fungi | perhaps when a comment on a change triggers a freshness check, we should trigger it for all child changes as well? | 18:39 |
| fungi | though that could also unnecessarily increase the frequency of our automated rechecking | 18:39 |
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| fungi | another option, which adds further complication, but we could have remediation configurable for circumstances under which zuul considers enqueuing a change and then turns it down for a particular reason. that way the callbacks could be arbitrarily defined as "if not enqueued because result too old or no vote at all and change not currently running in check, start check" or whatever | 18:43 |
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| * fungi vaguely handwaves some more | 18:43 | |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Make 'jenkins-job-builder' repo configurable https://review.openstack.org/99190 | 18:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Update git refs before comparing refs https://review.openstack.org/105888 | 18:57 |
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| arosen | fungi: doh my setting did do what i thought it would. I think i need to change this to my puppet server right? https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/manifests/site.pp#L153 | 19:01 |
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| fungi | arosen: probably not... nodepool connects to the template instance via ssh, downloads whatever puppet configuration via git and then locally applies it. that shouldn't touch a puppet master at all... | 19:03 |
| arosen | fungi: ah sorry. I think i should edit this file: https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/ssh/templates/sshd_config.erb#L89 and add an entry for my hosts. | 19:04 |
| fungi | arosen: neither our template instances nor our worker instances communicate with our puppet master | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Refactoring Trove gates jobs https://review.openstack.org/108411 | 19:05 |
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| fungi | arosen: i'll let you know what our sshd_confg looks like on our workers in production... hold on | 19:05 |
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| arosen | fungi: I'm guessing it looks like this: https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/ssh/templates/sshd_config.erb#L89 | 19:06 |
| arosen | but in my setup i need to add a Match host for my nodepool server | 19:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Use review.openstack.org in examples https://review.openstack.org/107655 | 19:07 |
| fungi | arosen: we don't have any entries in our sshd_config allowing root logins from our nodepool server, since it doesn't log into the resulting nodes as root | 19:07 |
| arosen | fungi: ah sorry you said that before. | 19:08 |
| arosen | Hrm | 19:08 |
| arosen | fungi: let me keep digging then sorry. | 19:08 |
| fungi | arosen: we have a couple entries for ci-puppetmaster.openstack.org and puppetmaster.openstack.org which we don't use... they're just bleed-over from our static hosts where we run puppet agent periodically via ansible | 19:08 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: yeah, my fault, I hadn't realized those were happening, commented on the review itself | 19:09 |
| fungi | arosen: in the providers list within our nodepool.yaml, the images each take a username and private-key parameter. we use "jenkins" as that username and /home/nodepool/.ssh/id_rsa as the private key (whose corresponding public key is puppeted into the ~jenkins/.ssh/authorized_keys on the template during image build) | 19:10 |
| fungi | arosen: then nodepoold connects to the nodes which are booted from the snapshot as the jenkins user with that key | 19:11 |
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| arosen | fungi: cool, that's my understanding as well how i have things setup. | 19:13 |
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| jeblair | annegentle: cool, i'll spin another version of that with developer.o.o soon; I'll probably wait to see if Ajaeger has some thoughts first though. | 19:14 |
| Ajaeger | jeblair: will add comments in the next half hour | 19:14 |
| jeblair | Ajaeger: thanks (no rush) | 19:14 |
| annegentle | jeblair: Ajaeger: we are eager today! :) | 19:15 |
| Ajaeger | annegentle: in that case please review https://review.openstack.org/110756 while I look over the blueprint ;) | 19:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Run install_modules.sh in puppet apply test https://review.openstack.org/106114 | 19:24 |
| fungi | SergeyLukjanov: if you're around, what would have made 110807 a +2 for you instead of just +1? | 19:25 |
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| davidlenwell | off topic .. https://www.dropbox.com/s/add3u61mzowi2x6/10424341_10154386604370655_2485395846366779541_n.jpg | 19:27 |
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| fungi | there is no diet coke | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Added advise to use dns over hardcoded ip in third_party https://review.openstack.org/104565 | 19:31 |
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| jeblair | and they're all out of borts | 19:36 |
| Ajaeger | annegentle, jeblair I commented. | 19:36 |
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| fungi | hee. bort | 19:37 |
| Ajaeger | annegentle: regarding https://review.openstack.org/110756 (besides that copy & paste is evil): Please check what's currently in use: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ceilometer-specs/, http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/ etc. | 19:39 |
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| Ajaeger | annegentle: full details, just go to specs.openstack.org . For Sahara I already sent https://review.openstack.org/111022 | 19:39 |
| Ajaeger | annegentle: that's why I used those names - to be consistent. But I'm fine with using "sahara", "keystone" etc | 19:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Create specs.o.o/index.html https://review.openstack.org/110756 | 19:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ravi Sankar Penta proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable barbican, marconi and mistral serices in gate-solum-devstack-dsvm and gate-solum-devstack-dsvm-f20 jenkins builder jobs https://review.openstack.org/111061 | 19:52 |
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| clarkb | woot I am connected via all the tunnels | 20:48 |
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| fungi | even the chunnel? | 20:48 |
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| clarkb | well I am in a buidling that will only give my ipv6 by default | 20:49 |
| clarkb | and my irc host doesn't have a AAAA record (it should) | 20:49 |
| clarkb | so I ssh -D'd to node with ipv4 and tunneled out | 20:49 |
| fungi | wacky. mine does ;) | 20:49 |
| jeblair | clarkb: you are in an awesome building! | 20:49 |
| fungi | so does my irc server ;) | 20:49 |
| clarkb | jeblair: gertty works in tsocks just fine (even though it doesn't need to be tunneled because review.o.o has AAAA) | 20:50 |
| fungi | clarkb: also, what sort of building gives you only ipv6? or is it the sort of building that you can't talk about lest it give you ipnothing instead? | 20:50 |
| clarkb | fungi: portland state university's fourth avenue building (where the engineering school lives) | 20:51 |
| fungi | huh. exciting! | 20:51 |
| fungi | teaching the engineering students to live in the future by taking away the past. makes sense | 20:51 |
| fungi | though if you don't experience ipv4, how will you ever truly understand how awful it is? ;) | 20:52 |
| * clarkb tries to get some work done finally | 20:52 | |
| clarkb | sdague: jeblair I was going to look at the d-g patch to make juno to juno grenade for nova baremetal to ironic work | 20:52 |
| clarkb | is there anything else i should look at first? | 20:53 |
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| fungi | jeblair: question-ish about the specs process (perhaps this has already been discussed in other projects)... it looks like we're writing specs and releasing them under a copyright license but providing no copyright statement? | 20:54 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: not that i'm aware | 20:55 |
| jeblair | fungi: seems like an oversight | 20:55 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: puppet 3 | 20:56 |
| nibalizer | ? | 20:56 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Create git repo and jenkins jobs for oslo.serialization https://review.openstack.org/108861 | 20:56 |
| fungi | jeblair: cool. mind if i propose a copyright placeholder change to template.rst? | 20:56 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add #openstack-barbican channel to eavesdrop https://review.openstack.org/109398 | 20:56 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: ack | 20:57 |
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| nibalizer | im down to poke it if you are | 20:57 |
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| * clarkb pushes d-g bugfix first | 20:57 | |
| jeblair | fungi: please do; i'm sure we can fix what's landed | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add fingerprint for bug 1350466 https://review.openstack.org/110737 | 20:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1350466 in nova "deadlock in scheduler expire reservation periodic task" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350466 | 20:57 |
| clarkb | hrm maybe that isn't a bug | 20:58 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: i need to spin up a new one; i had to delete the old one because it was broken and spamming | 20:58 |
| jeblair | be just a min | 20:58 |
| nibalizer | oh noes | 20:58 |
| nibalizer | okay | 20:59 |
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| clarkb | is https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/devstack-vm-gate.sh#n248 a bug | 21:00 |
| clarkb | jeblair: sdague fungi ^ | 21:00 |
| clarkb | I guess it is just the localrc being set up | 21:01 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i don't think so -- i _think_ it's because in an upgrade you want to start with the same localrc | 21:01 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ya | 21:01 |
| jeblair | clarkb: however, assuming that's the case, that not having a comment is a bug :) | 21:01 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: but let's double check with sdague and/or dtroyer and make sure they agree | 21:02 |
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| clarkb | k | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add copyright placeholder to template https://review.openstack.org/111085 | 21:05 |
| jeblair | puppet is running | 21:06 |
| nibalizer | excellent | 21:06 |
| nibalizer | puppet --version says 3ish? | 21:06 |
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| nibalizer | i want to say we pinned to 3.4 | 21:06 |
| nibalizer | also if we regened the host, will need to copy over the cert/key | 21:07 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: when you get a moment, would you mind adding a copyright claim for yourself or your employer (whichever is appropriate) on openstack-infra/infra-specs:specs/storyboard_subscription_pub_sub.rst ? | 21:07 |
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| jeblair | i think launch-node doesn't have the detailed exit code checks, so that "succeeded" and the host was kept, so we can inspect it | 21:09 |
| fungi | jeblair: oh, good point. we need it to get the successful exit codes encoded so it knows those aren't failures just because they're nonzero | 21:10 |
| fungi | jeblair: i'm pretty certain right now it just checks for !=0 | 21:11 |
| clarkb | does anyone remember where sdague's crazy introspection of env vars with construction of new vars ended up? I think I need to use that | 21:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Define *-heat-dsvm-functional job https://review.openstack.org/111087 | 21:11 |
| * clarkb looks in functions.sj | 21:11 | |
| anteaya | adalbas: if you are posting a blog post on your blog, you (like everyone else) can post anything you wish | 21:11 |
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| anteaya | adalbas: if you would like to fact check something, you are welcome to put it in an etherpad and ask anyone their opinion to ensure your facts are correct, but that again is your choice | 21:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth K. Joseph proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update IRC documentation to mention logging https://review.openstack.org/109078 | 21:14 |
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| jeblair | fungi, nibalizer: so it looks like we need libxml dev installed in order to install python-cinderclient from pip | 21:14 |
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| fungi | jeblair: probably easier to do what i just proposed to the zuul module and install the distro python-lxml package | 21:14 |
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| jeblair | fungi: yep | 21:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth K. Joseph proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update IRC documentation to mention logging https://review.openstack.org/109078 | 21:15 |
| fungi | jeblair: that way pip doesn't pull it in and try to install-time compile bindings via libxml2-dev and lbxslt1-dev | 21:15 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: did that happen when you ran this locally? | 21:15 |
| fungi | jeblair: and the python-lxml package on precise is new enough to satisfy the current global-requirements.txt so should work out just fime | 21:15 |
| fungi | fine | 21:15 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: im not entirely sure what i'm looking at | 21:15 |
| jeblair | also, any idea about the puppetdb-terminus problem? | 21:16 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: that's the output from the failed initial puppet run | 21:16 |
| nibalizer | okay | 21:16 |
| nibalizer | were you running it against localhost or against the 2.7 master? | 21:16 |
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| jeblair | the 2.7 master | 21:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth K. Joseph proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update IRC documentation to mention logging https://review.openstack.org/109078 | 21:17 |
| nibalizer | okay | 21:17 |
| pleia2 | yeesh, that was rougher than it should have been | 21:17 |
| pleia2 | time for a nap I think :) | 21:18 |
| jeblair | pleia2: sleep well! | 21:18 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 21:18 |
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| nibalizer | jeblair: i didn't test running the 3 master against the 2.7 master | 21:19 |
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| jeblair | nibalizer: do you think these errors are related to that? | 21:20 |
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| jeblair | nibalizer: let's assume the pip thing is solved... | 21:20 |
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| jeblair | nibalizer: that leaves the puppetdb-terminus error | 21:20 |
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| nibalizer | that looks like a pinning issue to me | 21:23 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add python-lxml to puppetmaster https://review.openstack.org/111091 | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: StoryBoard Streaming API specification https://review.openstack.org/105252 | 21:24 |
| krotscheck | fungi: That what you’re looking for? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105252/3..4/specs/storyboard_automated_pub_sub.rst | 21:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Pinning puppetdb-terminus with other puppet packages https://review.openstack.org/111092 | 21:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Added copyright header to spec https://review.openstack.org/111093 | 21:26 |
| fungi | krotscheck: lgtm. would be good to check how it renders (i've proposed a similar placeholder for the template in 111085) | 21:27 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: it simply dawned on me that we'd forgotten to recommend people document copyright holders for these documents, which is fairly unlike us ;) | 21:29 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: i've never seen the 'failed to call search' erros | 21:30 |
| nibalizer | but i think this should fix the pinning problem on puppetdb-terminus | 21:30 |
| nibalizer | https://review.openstack.org/111092 | 21:30 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: i think install_puppet needs the same change | 21:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Allow for grenade upgrades within a release https://review.openstack.org/111094 | 21:33 |
| clarkb | jeblair: sdague adam_g ^ that is a first stab at this | 21:33 |
| adam_g | clarkb, cool. was gonna start poking at that this afternoon/tomorrow | 21:34 |
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| clarkb | adam_g: one thing I noticed is that for the ironic dsvm jobs we don't set the virt driver to ironic. this means a few localrc settings are not set | 21:34 |
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| clarkb | adam_g: specifically the stuff at https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/devstack-vm-gate.sh#n118 | 21:34 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: sounds right | 21:34 |
| nibalizer | this is the problem you were talking about re: two places | 21:34 |
| adam_g | clarkb, , yeah. virt driver gets set for the dsvm-virtual-ironic-nv job | 21:35 |
| clarkb | adam_g: oh, so there is a different job that sets that? | 21:35 |
| adam_g | clarkb, yeah. i'm working on getting the full tempest smoke run to pass against VIRT_DRIVER=ironic | 21:35 |
| clarkb | cool | 21:36 |
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| adam_g | clarkb, once thats done we can get rid of the redundancy | 21:36 |
| clarkb | adam_g: so my sideways grenade may need to special case virt driver too | 21:36 |
| clarkb | adam_g: to be "libvirt" on old and possibly "ironic" on new | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Pinning puppetdb-terminus with other puppet packages https://review.openstack.org/111092 | 21:37 |
| adam_g | clarkb, i thought we decided the base/old would be fake virt? | 21:37 |
| jeblair | fungi: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111091/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111092/ ? | 21:38 |
| clarkb | adam_g: oh right | 21:39 |
| clarkb | adam_g: so this needs work but the initial stab is above :) | 21:39 |
| james_li | Hi All, please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111061/ | 21:40 |
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| fungi | jeblair: both lgtm. as for launch/sshclient.py, looks like we might need an extra toggle (or expand the meaning of error_ok) | 21:42 |
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| clarkb | the amount of the internet that does not AAAA makes me sad | 21:43 |
| fungi | if error_ok='puppet' and ret not in [0, 12, 34, 56]: | 21:43 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: is currently ipv6 only | 21:43 |
| clarkb | gandi.net? no ipv6 http | 21:43 |
| fungi | clarkb: but! but! didn't they see there was a world ipv6 day?!? | 21:44 |
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| jeblair | they have also been slow on dnssec :( | 21:45 |
| jeblair | i blame their US expansion | 21:45 |
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| nibalizer | jeblair: haha yesss, dnssec all the things! | 21:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: remove recheck 'no bug' & 'bug #' https://review.openstack.org/108724 | 21:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Amit Gandhi proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds Poppy CDN Project https://review.openstack.org/111095 | 21:52 |
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| clarkb | adam_g: ^ something like that | 21:54 |
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| fungi | since we merged 108724, should we also go ahead and make recheck and reverify officially synonymous in the config? the limited situations under which reverify works and the fact that they have the same effective outcome just makes for additional confusion any more, i think | 21:56 |
| jeblair | fungi: i think that'd be okay | 21:56 |
| fungi | because if so, we probably want to do that before we announce the changes | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make recheck and reverify synonymous https://review.openstack.org/111098 | 22:01 |
| fungi | proposed | 22:01 |
| fungi | and the notice to the developer community can perhaps just mention that recheck is preferred and that we may eventually remove reverify to further simplify configuration | 22:02 |
| jeblair | fungi: ++ sdague ^ | 22:03 |
| fungi | oh, for consistency i should also do layout-dev.yaml | 22:03 |
| fungi | doesn't seem we had any docs in the config repo about reverify though | 22:03 |
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| fungi | or we could even keep reverify around but have it mean "only rerun upstream ci jobs" while recheck is also interpreted by third-party ci. no idea whether that's a helpful distinction or not | 22:07 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 22:10 |
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| eharney | i got an email from this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95535/ with subject "Change in openstack/cinder[master]: #ellipsis(63, $change.subject)" | 22:16 |
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| eharney | seems strange | 22:16 |
| fungi | wow, nice | 22:16 |
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| anteaya | mattoliverau: morning | 22:17 |
| fungi | eharney: i don't see anything unusual in the commit subject for any of the patchsets on that change | 22:18 |
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| eharney | fungi: no, all the other emails and the webui look fine | 22:18 |
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| eharney | fungi: it was from the Jenkins Verified-1 message, and the "Change subject" inside the mail looks fine | 22:19 |
| clarkb | ok I have AAAA record now | 22:19 |
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| fungi | eharney: i'll double-check the gerrit error log haystack for any signs of that needle | 22:20 |
| eharney | fungi: hopefully git commit messages containing "unicode()" aren't dangerous ;) | 22:20 |
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| fungi | eharney: hopefully git commit messages containing actual unicode aren't dangerous either | 22:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kurt Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix formatting and indentation problems in third_party.rst https://review.openstack.org/111102 | 22:23 |
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| fungi | just noticed that for some reason none of the github repos in stackforge-attic had the gerrit team in their collaborator lists (spotted because gerrit was spamming its logs about being unable to replicate there) | 22:29 |
| fungi | fixed now | 22:29 |
| morganfainberg | annegentle, do we have a published minimum mysql version for OpenStack? | 22:29 |
| fungi | i suspect when we did the rename they hit the same partial project creation issue we've seen with github in the past | 22:30 |
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| adam_g | clarkb, hmm. so looking closer at grenade, im not sure how the 'upgrade' from fake -> ironic is going to work. ironic depends on a bunch of host-level setup that is not going to happen if the base install is run with VIRT_DRIVER=fake. (packages, bridges, VMs, etc) im not sure grenade is really designed for migrating between compute drivers ATM | 22:31 |
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| fungi | oh, and the jenkins05 migration went smoothly this morning. took out of service for teh duration, but they ended up being able to do a basically hitless live migration so no observed adverse impact | 22:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Adding Subscription Resource Hook https://review.openstack.org/102842 | 22:33 |
| adam_g | clarkb, i could certainly see how that would be a valuable thing for grenade to do, though, IIRC someone said a we need to do similar testing for nova-net -> neutron | 22:33 |
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| fungi | phschwartz: your magic error node deletion juice can't come soon enough. less than 24 hours and we're already back up to 54 nodes stuck in error+deleting in dfw | 22:36 |
| fungi | er, 64 | 22:36 |
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| fungi | surprisingly, none in iad and only 3 in ord | 22:37 |
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| fungi | not that hpcloud's much better in that regard... we have 24 stuck in error+deleting in hpcloud region b | 22:38 |
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| ianw | fungi: did you do anything, or was i just trying before everything updated for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110516/ ? | 23:23 |
| fungi | ianw: i replied to your ml post | 23:23 |
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| fungi | a couple times | 23:23 |
| fungi | and then pinged you in here while you were fast asleep | 23:24 |
| fungi | all good now | 23:24 |
| fungi | you weren't crazy, our zuul config was effectively broken | 23:24 |
| ianw | fungi: bah, ok, helps if i run kinit before offlineimap, sorry :) will read now | 23:24 |
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| fungi | you're in au, right? | 23:25 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for IdentityError in test_rescope_token https://review.openstack.org/111115 | 23:25 |
| * fungi tries to keep track of everyone's sleep patterns | 23:25 | |
| jhesketh | Morning | 23:25 |
| ianw | fungi: yep. usually i'm around fairly early .au time (like 3 hours before now) | 23:26 |
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| fungi | oh, so you're up with the kookaburras then | 23:27 |
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| ianw | fungi: thanks a ton, i wasn't looking in there at all. TIL :) | 23:28 |
| * fungi imagines them being alarm clocks the way roosters are | 23:28 | |
| jeblair | ianw: familiar with k5start? http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/kstart/k5start.html | 23:29 |
| * fungi is semi-familiar with k5start (well, moreso k4start) but's it's been a while since i've managed kerberos infrastructure | 23:30 | |
| fungi | krenew as well | 23:31 |
| jeblair | ("k5start offlineimap" sounds like a winner to me) | 23:31 |
| fungi | indeed. nice and persistent thataway | 23:32 |
| ianw | fungi: do get them in the tree outside the bedroom, they're usually pretty quiet, i'm not sure what sets them off | 23:32 |
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| fungi | looks like the current test load is thrashing our providers more heavily than usual today | 23:33 |
| jeblair | unreviewed_config_changes -= 40 | 23:34 |
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| jeblair | i'm down to 50 unreviewed changes! | 23:35 |
| jeblair | (in config) | 23:36 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add python-lxml to puppetmaster https://review.openstack.org/111091 | 23:36 |
| fungi | oh the insanity | 23:37 |
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