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| msabramo | I'm at OpenStack session now at OSCON | 16:35 |
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| clarkb | already? | 16:51 |
| clarkb | I dont get into town until tonight | 16:52 |
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| lukego | Howdy. I want to upgrade my Neutron CI from running API tests to also running scenario tests. However, the scenario tests are failing, and I think it’s a simple issue of Tempest config (not related to my code). anybody want to help or perhaps give a pointer to an example of running network scenario from a devstack installation? | 17:00 |
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| clarkb | lukego do the neutron tempest tests upstream do that? | 17:29 |
| clarkb | also devstack should create a tempest config for you that matches the cloud built by devstack | 17:30 |
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| lukego | clarkb: I’m not sure if I understand. my aim is to run the upstream Neutron tempest tests. (I already run the API tests but I want to run more.) devstack is creating a tempest config, but somehow when I run tests other than the API ones nothing succeeds, and I think the issue is with my devstack setup rather than the code under test | 18:01 |
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| clarkb | lukego: do those tests run in the upstream testing? | 18:19 |
| clarkb | lukego: if they do then it may help you debug | 18:19 |
| lukego | clarkb: I’m not sure what you mean by “upstream testing”. afaik the majority of Neutron CIs are running these tests (though I don’t have access to those as they are privately operated) | 18:20 |
| clarkb | lukego: every change to openstack has tempest run against it with neutron upstream | 18:21 |
| clarkb | lukego: access to the details of those tests are completely public | 18:22 |
| clarkb | lukego: they are the tests reported as run by Jenkins in gerrit | 18:22 |
| lukego | clarkb: thanks for the tip, digging! | 18:22 |
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| lukego | clarkb: Thanks! I will inspect the tempest.conf and local.conf there and see if anything jumps out | 18:24 |
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| clarkb | lukego: cool | 18:24 |
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| sweston | anybody around to give me some advice on how to determine build status based on other Jenkins masters? | 20:43 |
| clarkb | sweston: maybe? I don't quite understand the question but I am around for a little bit | 20:45 |
| sweston | clarkb: awesome, let me describe my use case | 20:46 |
| sweston | clarkb: I complete a Jenkins run, the build fails, I would like to query the other Jenkins masters who have completed the build to determine whether my build should have failed or not | 20:47 |
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| clarkb | sweston: using the gerrit API you can query for votes left by other CI systems | 20:48 |
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| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/rest-api-changes.html#get-change-detail something like that then filter the labels details | 20:49 |
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| clarkb | at this point all CI systems except for "Jenkins" should have "CI" in their name iirc | 20:49 |
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| sweston | clarkb: ah, gotcha. does anybody else have this use case? and if so, would it be reasonable to propose a change to the jenkins job builder for this? | 20:50 |
| clarkb | I don't think so | 20:50 |
| clarkb | imo those votes are for human reviewers to interpret not other ci systems | 20:50 |
| sweston | clarkb: ok, but I am looking for an automated way to determine if my build system is broken or not. | 20:51 |
| clarkb | that is a trickier problem probably more suited to doing statistical analysis of job trends? | 20:52 |
| clarkb | jogo may have input on that as he does it for the upstream tests | 20:52 |
| sweston | clarkb: yes, I think this may be a good service so that people can act more immediately if their system is out of sync with other ci systems | 20:54 |
| sweston | clarkb: any recommendations on how I should proceed here? | 20:55 |
| clarkb | sweston: ya, you can use the gerrit api to check what the other ci systems report | 20:55 |
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| sweston | clarkb: ok | 20:56 |
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| sweston | clarkb: how do I post this and propose for consumption by other third party ci systems? | 20:57 |
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| clarkb | maybe as a script? that can then be added to JJB or whatever system is used | 20:58 |
| sweston | clarkb: ok. post as a change to the infra config project? | 20:59 |
| clarkb | I am not sure we need ti | 20:59 |
| sweston | clarkb: ok | 21:00 |
| clarkb | I am open to opinions from others, but I think a better way to solve this problem is with the work jogo does | 21:00 |
| clarkb | use specific fingerprints to identify known issues and track the remainder | 21:00 |
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| clarkb | it is a bit more work but gives a lot more information relative to a specific CI system | 21:00 |
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| clarkb | comparisons to other CI systems may be interesting too though | 21:01 |
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| sweston | clarkb: yes. but this can then be used (eventually) to recommend whether a build system should be disabled, automatically, by Gerrit. | 21:02 |
| clarkb | I don't think it can be | 21:02 |
| clarkb | because it assumes there is a constant known good to compare against | 21:02 |
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| sweston | clarkb: too much variation? statistically speaking? | 21:03 |
| sweston | clarkb: ok, understood. | 21:03 |
| clarkb | right. How do we know that each vote we are comparing against was actually correct? they may be broken too (and respond either positively or negatively in those cases) | 21:03 |
| sweston | clarkb: yup. | 21:04 |
| clarkb | the comparisons may be interesting for other reasons though | 21:05 |
| clarkb | so writing a script to do it could be useful. maybe as one input to humans making the above decision | 21:05 |
| sweston | clarkb: ok. I will see if I can get ahold of jogo then. maybe an email message to start the discussion first. | 21:06 |
| clarkb | sweston: its also possible that russellb's reviewstats can be updated to do this | 21:06 |
| clarkb | sweston: it dumps numbers on humans and I assume could be used to grab numbers for ci systems | 21:07 |
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| sweston | clarkb: ok. an email to both jogo and russselb, then? | 21:07 |
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| sweston | s/russelb/russellb | 21:08 |
| clarkb | or just grab russellb's tool and see if it can do it | 21:08 |
| clarkb | but email is probably a good place to start too | 21:08 |
| sweston | clarkb: ok, I will proceed on both fronts then | 21:08 |
| sweston | clarkb: thank you, so much, for the input and advice!! | 21:10 |
| clarkb | no problem | 21:10 |
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| mordred | clarkb, sweston: stackalytics could also probably be updated to do such a thing | 22:31 |
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| sweston | mordred: ok, awesome. I will check that out as well!! | 22:33 |
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