Monday, 2014-06-23

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anteayahey mattoliverau jhesketh00:10
anteayahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnFB631UqkI00:11
anteayado you know if mikal is online yet?00:11
mattoliverauanteaya: yeah mikal is around :)00:14
mattoliverauanteaya: oh and hi, I hope your having a great weekend :)00:14
anteayathanks00:15
anteayathe weather has been really nice00:15
anteayabeen a quiet weekend at home which is exactly what I needed00:15
anteayahow about you?00:15
anteayahow was your weekend?00:16
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mattoliverauanteaya: great, sometime having some down time at home is just what the doctor ordered :) My weekend was good, my sister has been visiting from Canberra (up north a little; about 7-8 hours drive away) so got to hang out with her and the brother-in-law. So that was cool.00:21
anteayanice00:22
anteayaquite the drive00:22
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mattoliverauanteaya: lol, yeah, but like Canada it's a big place, so doesn't looks so far on the map :P00:28
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anteaya:)00:32
anteayamattoliverau: hey where's the new guy?00:32
mattoliverauanteaya: you mean the guy mikal emailed infra about who started today? He hasn't joined the channel. I can go poke him :)00:35
anteayaplease do00:35
anteayawould like to say hello before I have to go to sleep00:35
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anteayahello sir00:37
r1chardj0n3shullo anteaya00:37
anteayaand welcome00:37
mattoliverauanteaya: this is r1chardj0n3s jones, the one mikal emailed about00:37
anteayanice to meet you00:37
anteayayes00:37
r1chardj0n3soh gods no00:37
r1chardj0n3sthey know00:37
anteayaI remember wagging my finger at monty00:37
mattoliverauthey know all00:37
r1chardj0n3s;)00:37
anteayawell only that you are here00:37
anteayaand you know some helpful stuff00:37
anteayaand we are glad you have you here00:37
anteayaso welcome00:38
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r1chardj0n3sthanks :)00:38
anteayahow is day one treating you so far?00:38
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r1chardj0n3santeaya: oh you know, the usual. Fixing a Dell.00:39
anteayaheh00:39
r1chardj0n3s(installing Ubuntu)00:39
anteayatrusty?00:39
anteayahey are we able to drag r1chardj0n3s to germany?00:39
anteayawhat do you say, mikal?00:40
anteayait would be a great learning opportunity for him00:40
anteayar1chardj0n3s: context: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints00:40
Alex_Gaynorr1chardj0n3s: welcome to the world's wildest CI system :-)00:40
r1chardj0n3sohaiAlex_Gaynor :)00:41
anteayaspecifically https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Qa_Infra_Meetup_201400:41
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fungir1chardj0n3s: to continue mikal's ml thread from earlier, welcome!00:53
anteayahey fungi how is the house?00:54
fungianteaya: still seems mostly inside-out00:54
anteaya:(00:54
anteayabut bed00:55
anteayayou have a bed and internet, yeah?00:55
fungibut it's getting there at least00:55
anteayacool00:55
fungiand yeah, it's in a state that i can get back to work tomorrow, so that's good00:55
anteayacool00:55
anteayamostly because that means you are in a not crazy state00:56
anteayasince you would work in an earthquake if your wife was safe somewhere00:56
r1chardj0n3shi fungi00:57
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anteayamikal: so sometime during your day if you can take a look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/OpenStack and follow the bouncing ball01:01
flashgordonanteaya: got a question you know the answer too01:01
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anteayamikal: if you can't follow the instructions let me know so I can fix01:01
anteayajogo: I do?01:01
anteaya4201:01
jogohttp://www.openstack.org/legal/bylaws-of-the-openstack-foundation/01:01
anteayaanything else?01:01
jogo4.1.b has a typo01:02
* anteaya looks01:02
jogosearch for '. .'01:02
anteayakk01:02
jogothere is an extra period01:02
jogohow do we get that fixed?01:02
anteayaoh thank goodess01:02
* jogo is trying to understand what and why 'defcore' is01:02
anteayaa punctionation typo shouldn't need a referendum01:02
anteayaha ha ha01:03
jogoanteaya: I would hope not ^_^01:03
anteayalet me know if you ever figure out what it is01:03
anteayaoccasion for many a meeting is as far as I can figure01:03
jogoanteaya: will do01:03
fungijogo: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Website#Providing_Website_Feedback01:03
anteayaso typo in the bylaws01:03
anteayaah01:03
jogofungi: thanks01:03
StevenKArguments from foundation members about what services you must use to call your deployment OpenStack as I understand it01:04
jogoStevenK: that may be the what but not the why01:04
anteayayeah, that would fit01:04
anteayajogo: well if you want to look at last week's meeting logs01:04
jogofungi: so I file a launchpad bug?01:04
jogoanteaya: oh?01:04
anteayaand search on RAGE RAGE RAGE01:04
StevenKjogo: I'm not really clear on the why, but it keeps the board out of trouble01:04
jogoanteaya: ohh I saw that hehe01:04
fungijogo: yeah, or e-mail todd01:04
anteayamordred gives a nice summary01:04
jogoI'll just email Todd01:05
fungijogo: as to the why, i hate that our infra software has to maintain separate workarounds for hpcloud quirks and rackspace quirks01:05
anteayajogo: yeah, I'd go straight to email Todd01:05
anteayafungi: will refstack fix that for us/01:05
anteaya?01:05
fungijogo: the defcore effort is, ostensibly, an attempt to define a baseline operation for openstack-based environments from service providers and private cloud deployers who want to use the trademark01:06
mordredbah01:06
fungianteaya: the idea behind refstack is to give people who build or consume openstack environments a tool to check compliance with that baseline01:07
mordredit's an effort for arrogant assholes to vote themselves an opinion even though we stopped caring about the excrement spewing from their mouth holes years ago01:08
fungiin reality, yes, to a great extent01:08
* mordred goes back to bar01:08
jogofungi: so what monty said01:08
anteayamordred: how was the wedding01:08
jogoI don't think defcore can help infra at all, flavors and networks will always be different01:08
fungiboard working groups are, in some ways, a platform for people to justify their jobs by saying things01:09
anteayathat seems to be the output thus far01:09
fungijogo: previous infra pain points have been around lack of keystone, lack of glance, et cetera01:10
fungiat least insofar as that's concerned01:10
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anteayadoes refstack required keystone and glance01:10
anteayas/required/require01:10
fungii01:11
fungier01:11
jogofungi: good point01:11
jogowell I am not that far yet01:11
jogostarting with the bylaws01:11
jogoit turns out oslo isn't 'OpenStack'01:11
fungii'm not sure if the 1.0 core capabilities list includes either keystone or glance01:11
jogo The “OpenStack Project” shall consist of a “Core OpenStack Project,” library projects, gating projects and supporting projects. . The Core OpenStack Project means the software modules which are part of an integrated release and for which an OpenStack trademark may be used. The other modules which are part of the OpenStack Project, but not the Core OpenStack Project may not be identified using the OpenStack trademark except when distributed with01:12
jogoor rather oslo cannot use the trademark but its part of the openstack project01:12
fungijogo: yeah, you can't claim to provide an openstack service if all you're using is oslo libs, is my interpretation there01:13
jogowhich makes sense01:13
jogothe Core OpenStack Project is the Block Storage, Compute, Dashboard, Identity Service, Image Service, Networking, and Object Storage modules. The Secretary shall maintain a list of the modules in the Core OpenStack Project which shall be posted on the Foundation’s website."01:13
jogowhere is that list01:13
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jogowoot todd, responded and will fix it01:14
anteayawoo01:14
anteayayou won the todd email roulette01:14
fungiclearly it's somewhere "on the foundation's website" ;)01:14
anteayajogo: you now get to send him all the emails01:14
anteayahttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Ffoundation%2F+core+openstack&t=canonical01:17
anteayaI got 4 hits and none seem to be the list01:17
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jogojust found another bug  in the foundation page01:18
jogohttp://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-trademark-policy/01:18
jogosearch for "clicking here" and try to click01:18
anteayayou have the x-ray vision tonight01:18
anteayano linky01:19
jogoheh looks like no one has read this01:20
anteayaha ha ha01:20
anteayaare you surprised?01:20
ianwhas anything changed w.r.t gerrit and ipv6 in the last few days?01:23
anteayahi ianw01:23
anteayanot that I am aware01:24
anteayathe only thing I am aware of was updating the jenkinses to be able to hear a gerrit plugin01:24
anteayashouldn't have anything to do with ipv6, afaik01:24
ianwanteaya: hi ... thanks.  likely it's a local issue; just about 55 hours ago on my ci bot paramiko seems to have started to try and get to gerrit via ipv601:25
anteaya19:02:28 <jeblair> #topic  Upgrade jenkins build-timeout plugin (zaro)01:25
anteayahttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2014/infra.2014-06-17-19.01.log.html01:25
anteayainteresting01:25
anteayaso that would be sometime on Friday utc01:26
anteayawe did a rolling jenkins upgrade starting Wednesday with jenkins0701:26
anteayaI'm not sure if we got all 8 jenkinses done01:26
anteayaclarkb or jeblair would know more01:26
mikalanteaya: I don't understand most of the https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Turbo_Hipster page that the template created01:27
mikalTurbo Hipster isn't a program, so most of these don't apply01:27
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anteayamikal: how about now: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/OpenStack-Nova01:28
mikalSorry, so the entry on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/OpenStack is wrong?01:30
jogoso this isn't confusing: there is the "OpenStack Project" and the "Core OpenStack Project"01:31
jogoand you can only use the OpenStack Trademark if you are part of the "Core OpenStack Project"01:31
jogoso the TC can say something is part of the "OpenStack Project" but it cannot use the trademark01:32
jogobecause its not "Core"01:32
openstackgerritKevin McCarthy proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Restore Monkeypatched Distribution Instance  https://review.openstack.org/10178501:32
anteayamikal: I fixed some things01:33
anteayarefresh01:33
mikalanteaya: so, why are we creating a wiki page to track mission statements etc when that's already tracked by the tc in a git repo?01:33
mikalWont it get out of date?01:33
anteayalink01:33
anteayalink to the mission statements01:33
anteayado you have the nova mission statement on the nova wikipage?01:34
openstackgerritMorgan Fainberg proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove apache-services tempest check  https://review.openstack.org/9763801:34
mikalanteaya: I am unsure, if we do I'd be tempted to remove it given it pre-dates the official repo of such things01:36
mikali.e. why have it in more than one place?01:36
anteayamikal: mostly because third party people don't read anything01:37
anteayaand they don't know anything about opensource01:37
anteayaand they don't know anything about your program01:37
anteayathey just know that management told them to do the thing01:37
anteayaso at every opportunity I show them mission statements01:38
anteayathe openstack mission01:38
anteayaprogram missions01:38
anteayathey won't read them01:38
anteayabut maybe they will remember seeing them01:38
anteayaso eventually the might question what open source is01:38
anteayaI paste the openstack mission into every third party meeting01:39
anteayaif these were opensource people? I wouldn't bother01:39
anteayaI have told someone of them the same thing 6 times in a row01:39
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anteayathey can't hear me and they don't read backscroll01:40
anteayaso yeah, it is overkill01:40
mikalHmmmm, ok01:40
anteayabecause I can't figure out how else to communicate with this group01:40
mikalI think maybe why I am confused is because I lack back story here01:40
anteayaright01:40
anteayabecause you have 5 ci systems01:41
mikalSo this wiki page I am making is meant to be a starting point for people who come to infra wanting to do a third party CI system for now?01:41
mikalnova even01:41
anteayaand they seem to be attentive and behaving themselves for the most part01:41
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anteayayes01:41
mikalAhhh01:41
mikalI thought you were asking for a turbo hipster wiki page01:41
anteayaor wanting to understand how to do third party systems at all01:41
anteayaright01:41
mikalHence the confusion01:41
anteayamy fault01:41
anteayamuch confusion01:41
anteayaand it is monday for you01:41
mikalWell, let me have a go at this wiki page and see what happens01:42
anteayaand you haven't had enough coffee01:42
anteayaI can't wait01:42
anteayaplus you spent a chunk of your weekend at the hospital01:42
anteayahope things continue to improve01:42
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jogoso if I want to find the list "The Secretary shall maintain a list of the modules in the Core OpenStack Project which shall be posted on the Foundation’s website"01:51
jogowho do I email to get it added to the website?01:51
anteayawell I would go with the secretary01:51
jogowho would that be?01:52
anteayaand I have an open question to jonathan about that01:52
anteayaand I do think it is jonathan01:52
anteayabut the reason I am asking needs confirmation, not a guess01:52
anteayaso try emailing jonathan01:52
jogohe is the executive  director01:54
mattoliverauis there openstack email aliases for people like ptl's, secretary etc.. that would be easier to manage? I.e: nova-ptl@openstack.org or secretary@openstack.org01:54
jogoahh  secretary@openstack.org01:54
mattoliverauThat's a question, is there alias' like that ^?01:55
jogoanteaya: do you think I should CC the email toe the foundation ML?01:57
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anteayaahhhh01:59
anteayastart with secretary01:59
anteayagive him a chance to post to the foundation ml01:59
anteayasee where you are by wednesday01:59
anteayaI know he was traveling last week01:59
anteayajogo: fair enough?01:59
jogoanteaya: good idea02:00
anteayamattoliverau: I know of no aliases02:00
anteayaor even where to look if there were any02:00
anteayajhesketh: yeah, pleia2 usually types in utc on the ml02:02
jogoanteaya: it does look like secretary@openstack.org is valid I found a random reference to it on the foundation site02:02
anteayawhat time does that end up being for you?02:03
anteayajogo: cool02:03
anteayajogo: you are becoming a bylaw expert02:03
anteayaif you want to expand further you can wade into the governance resolution I have a proposal up for02:03
anteayait is lengthy02:04
anteayabut if you have an opinion I would appreciate hearing it02:04
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jheskethanteaya: 3am I believe02:05
jheskethanteaya: but I can just join in later02:05
jogoanteaya: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Gnt3huNLAc02:05
jogoare my note so far02:05
jogoso I actually found some good stuff in here02:05
anteayajhesketh: yeah, I can't picutre you being at your bug squashing best at 3am02:06
jogoso the TC controls what is the "OpenStack Project"02:06
anteayanice colour of orange02:06
* morganfainberg_L just found a flaw in using gertty... switch computers and reviews are no longer marked as reviewed02:06
anteayakeep that one as long as you can02:06
anteayahey morganfainberg_L02:06
morganfainberg_Lno wonder there suddenly looks like a ton of reviews to do.02:06
anteayaha ha ha02:07
jogothe Foundation controls the "Core OpenStack Project" which is a set of software modules for which the trademark may be used02:07
jogothe BoD can only consider any changes to the Core OpenStack Project as recommended by the TC02:08
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jogoso DefCore doesn't make sense02:08
jheskethanteaya: actually better chance of me squashing bugs at 3am than 7am ;-)02:08
morganfainberg_Lanteaya: allo :) hope your sunday is going well.02:08
jogoOur mission is to define "OpenStack Core" as chartered by the by-laws and guided by Governance/CoreDefinition02:09
anteayajhesketh: :)02:10
jogoas the BoD can only approve or reject changes to 'Core OpenStack Project" not set them02:10
anteayamorganfainberg_L: yeah, fairly good, quiet day, rest and kitty cat02:10
anteayajogo: have you been following any of the tc meetings?02:11
anteayadefcore has been a weekly staple for about the last 6 months02:11
lifelessjogo: lol still going ?02:11
jogoanteaya: enough to be confused02:11
jogolifeless: yes!02:11
jogomikal: ^ comments?02:11
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jogolifeless: so far I have fleshed out why the bylaws say about anything "Core"02:12
anteayajogo: well I think you are on par with the rest then02:12
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anteayaI think last meeting there were no less than 3 tc members acknowledging confusion02:13
jogoanteaya: so this is where I am now.02:14
anteayamikal: a great beginning thank you02:14
anteayajogo: I think you are at the head of the pack02:14
anteayain terms of figuring out what the heck this is about02:15
anteayaany questions you have probably don't have answers02:15
jogoThe Board has control over the trademark02:15
anteayayes02:15
anteayaof that there is agreement all round02:15
jogoand they want to flesh out guidlines around those02:15
anteayaaround those?02:15
jogobut this is not related to core02:15
jogoyes, http://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-trademark-policy/02:16
jogoanteaya: as far as I can tell no that has nothing to do with core02:16
anteayathis is a sprawling conversation about how to implement trademark policy, from my eyes02:16
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jogoCore OpenStack Project is a clearly defined thing and process02:16
jogoto alter it02:16
jogoanteaya: yup02:17
anteayacontrol-f "core" confirms your assertion02:17
anteayathey should all be so easy02:17
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jogonow to figure out what the bylaws say about changint the trademarl02:20
jogotrademark policy02:20
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anteayajogo: another typo if your email gambling streak is still good: "agree not register or seek to register any OpenStack Marks in any country."02:21
anteayaagree not _to_ register02:21
jogoheh I already did two, which is enough for today02:24
anteayakk02:24
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jogoso if the board needs to change the Trademark Policy02:32
jogothy need at least 25% of the individual members voting02:32
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anteayayeah02:37
anteayawell I don't know that that is what the board is leading up to02:37
anteayabut they do need a vote on the cla stuff02:37
anteayaand they are looking to cull the list of atcs02:38
anteayasince one of the requirements is voting in one of the two board elections02:38
anteayathe two elections the board has had thus far02:38
anteayanot sure when the great delete will happen, but as far as I know it is a planned thing02:38
jogoanteaya: yeah makes sense02:39
morganfainberg_Ldid i read that right, to be an atc must have voted in aboard election?02:39
jogoso my question is now that I dug into this and have some questions02:40
jogothat only the BoD can really answer02:40
jogonow what02:40
jogoI am tempted to send something the foundation ML02:40
anteayamorganfainberg_L: yes02:41
anteayathey have had two02:41
morganfainberg_Linteresting02:41
anteayayou have to have voted in at least one of them02:41
anteayaif you were a member when the voting was happening02:41
morganfainberg_Lright.02:42
anteayajogo: well one thing I know about you02:42
anteayawhen you mind it made up, the only safe place is behind you02:42
anteayaso, go jogo \o/02:42
jogomorganfainberg_L: http://www.openstack.org/legal/individual-member-policy/02:43
jogoanteaya: hehe time to draft an email I guess02:43
anteaya3. iii02:43
anteayajogo: hahaha02:44
anteayasoon time for me to be off to bed02:44
jogomorganfainberg_L:  (iii) failure to vote in at least 50% of the votes for Individual Members within the prior twenty-four months unless the person does not respond within thirty (30) days of notice of such termination that the person wishes to continue to be an Individual Member. Upon termination as provided above, the Secretary or another officer designated by the Executive Director shall promptly remove the person from the Individual Member Registry. T02:44
anteayaso vote or reply to an email02:44
anteayabut preferably vote02:44
morganfainberg_Ljogo: very interesting.02:45
morganfainberg_Lmeh i'll stick with voting ;)02:47
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morganfainberg_Leasier than remembering to reply to the email... besides then i have *some* say in the board ;)02:48
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jogohaha02:53
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anteayavote vote vote02:55
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dstufftr1chardj0n3s: \o/02:56
r1chardj0n3sohai dstufft :)02:56
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yjiang|2hi guys,I want to ask that did the tempest cases used by 3rd part testing should be upstream cases?02:59
anteayahi yjiang|2, yeah I saw that question in scrollback a few days ago03:00
anteayado you have an example?03:00
anteayalet's start with which is your third party CI?03:00
anteayawhat is the name of your account?03:00
jogoanteaya: There have been no core project changes since the Bylaws were ratified03:02
jogoJonathan responded03:02
jogoso heat isn't openstack hehe03:02
jogobecause the TC didn't ask nicely03:02
jogottx: ping03:03
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jogottx: ^ looks like the TC needs to ask the BoD to update the definition of "Core OpenStack Project"03:05
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anteayajogo: you're just going to make everybody's monday aren't you03:09
jogoanteaya: yup03:10
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anteayaokay that's enough fun for me tonight03:23
anteayahave to save some for tomorrow03:23
anteayanight03:23
yjiang|2anteaya: hi,it's Intel PCI CI.We have to deploy openstack on physical machine and use our custom tempest cases,so I think may be I should have a WIKI page to discribe the work flow of our CI test.03:25
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yjiang|2anteaya: sorry,what's example?You mean the our custom tempest case?03:26
jogoanteaya: is it too late to ask you to proof read my draft email?03:27
jogolifeless morganfainberg_L mordred ^03:27
lifeless?03:28
jogohttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Gnt3huNLAc03:28
lifelessjogo: did you check the tc archive, because I believe such requests were in fact made03:29
jogotc archives, no I did not03:29
jogogood idea03:29
jogowhich archives meeting03:29
jogoor ML?03:29
lifelessML03:30
lifelessjogo: so - uhm, well. It will be fun watching.03:33
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lifelessjogo: whats your objective?03:35
lifelessjogo: as in whats the question behind the question?03:35
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jogoto figure out why03:40
jogoand what03:40
jogoso they want to change the bylaws https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreBylawsIPE03:40
jogowhich will need to be voted on by all individual members03:41
lifelessso I think you sould explain your broader goal as well as asking the direct question03:43
jogolifeless: I revised the draft what do you think03:52
jogoSo if the current mission statement doesn't align with the bylaws then what is the DefCore committe's current mission statement?03:52
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jogolifeless: thoughts on the latest draft?03:57
jogoand the check the TC ML tip helped03:58
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notmynamejogo: (sticking my nose in) you should also probably acknowledge that you know they are trying to define trademark guidelines. that is, I'd hate for your work to be swept aside without getting to the harder/deeper questions by simply going back to some IP FITS test04:02
jogonotmyname: good point, I was origianlly thinking they would have to come out and say that and then address itthen04:03
jogobut I should preempt that04:03
notmynamejogo: ya, you don't want to get sucked into a morass of arguing against the purpose of lawyers ;-)04:04
notmynamefrankly, they're better at arguing that any of us are :-)04:04
jogonotmyname: random related question, where is the doc that says the BoD approved the idea of designated sections04:06
jogowhich I don't think they can do04:06
lifelessI don't think its approved yet04:06
lifelessAIUI the idea is to put to gether a thing, and a change to the bylaws to enact that thing, and defcore is the current consensus around thing04:07
notmynamejogo: did the BoD have anything there? "designated sections" comes out of the bug set of things DefCore has come up with. ie DefCore has invented designated sections04:07
notmynamelifeless: s/consensus/BoD working group/04:07
lifelessnotmyname: potato :)04:07
notmynamelol04:07
lifelessok, I need to sleep.04:07
jogonotmyname: not sure, but I don't think the bylaws say they can do that04:08
jogoand the minute notes don't mention it04:08
notmynamesay they can do what?04:09
notmynameso far, it's not a "thing". it's a mechanism to answer some questions, and AIUI they are wanting a bylaws change to formalize the thing. (as lifeless said)04:09
jogodefine 'designated sections' in the code for use of trademark purposes or defining core04:09
jogoboth of those need bylaw changes04:09
jogoright04:09
jogobut the committee to explore this whole thing was founded an false pretenses04:10
notmynamejogo: my opinion is that you won't get very far if you try to attack DefCore's process. they can point to a lot of historic data of their meetings to show best-effort to do stuff in the open04:12
notmyname(note, lots of editorializing words were edited out of that comment)04:13
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lifelessjogo: an open framing of the question is likely a lot better than an accusation; particularly since AFAICT noone there believes themselves to be a bad actor....04:13
lifelessok really going04:14
notmynamejogo: also, I haven't read all the backlog, and I'm not entirely clear on your focus ;-)04:14
jogoso I am not trying to attack the process I am trying to sort out the why and what04:14
jogonotmyname: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Gnt3huNLAc04:14
jogonotmyname: see the first paragraph of my email daft at the bottom04:15
notmynamejogo: the last sentence there is what seems to change the tone from inquisitive to attacking, IMO04:17
notmynamealso note that DefCore kinda blindsided me in the last TC meeting by (1) not inviting the Swift PTL to the meeting [which that I only saw it in passing 10 minutes before another commitment] and then (2) proposing to the TC that all object storage requirements be dropped. some I'm not entirely separated from emotion at this point04:18
jogonotmyname: yeah i can drop that one04:20
jogonotmyname: I dropped that last sentance thoughts on it now?04:21
jogowithout the trademark discussion?04:21
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notmynamejogo: so is your question around the fact that the trademark line isn't represented in a mission statement? Because I think what you wrote there on the trademark line pretty much answers your questions posed above. DefCore is about establishing trademark guidelines, and they are doing that by creating a framework for validating what is "core" and will propose bylaws changes to reflect their work04:24
notmynameah, I see you're adding to it now :-)04:25
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jogonotmyname: so not sure where to go with the trademark point04:29
jogobeyond the fact that the BoD needs a general vote to get it passed04:29
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jogoso the motivations and reasoning need to be debated04:29
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jogonotmyname: lifeless thoughts04:48
jogoon latest rev04:48
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jogohere goes nothing05:13
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/requirements: Bump up minimum cliff version to 1.6.0  https://review.openstack.org/10158805:28
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tchaypoIf I remember from last week, someone was tweaking gertty to make it spit out some html with links to the various dashboards06:36
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kashyap`soren, once storyboard is ready, will it also act as a bug tracker for OpenStack projects effectively moving from away from Launchpad for filing bugs?06:49
kashyap`(Err, I meant to type "So", sorry, bad tab completion :-( )06:49
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ttxjogo: we did ask, and "Defcore" is the process under which it is being redefined / phased out07:23
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andreafhello - can someone point me to the fix for the horizon issue which was breaking the gate over the week-end?07:50
andreafI see https://review.openstack.org/101734 on havana and https://review.openstack.org/101727 on icehouse - what about master?07:52
ihrachyshkaandreaf: probably not relevant for juno?07:55
andreafihrachyshka: yes you're right it looks so from the comments on the changes07:55
andreafihrachyshka: thanks07:55
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openstackgerritDzmitry Horbach proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Managed Script Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9910908:18
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yolandahi, i'm having these errors when running nova tests:  AttributeError: 'MySQLOpportunisticFixture' object has no attribute '_details'08:46
yolandai've seen a similar bug reported by Postgresql, anyone knows what can be causing that?08:47
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Validate Project and Project Groups names  https://review.openstack.org/9872809:29
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ruheSergeyLukjanov: hi! can you please take a look at a failing doc build? https://jenkins05.openstack.org/job/gate-murano-docs/46/console09:41
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pblahoSergeyLukjanov, ruhe: I have seen the same here http://logs.openstack.org/49/92749/12/check/gate-tripleo-incubator-docs/12ab885/console.html09:52
vponomaryovruhe: update your dependency for sphinx as in https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L17609:52
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thervevponomaryov, It doesn't look like the issue considering 1.1.3 is installed09:57
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thervehttp://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOlwiRmFpbGVkIHRvIHVwbG9hZCBmaWxlc1wiIEFORCBmaWxlbmFtZTpcImNvbnNvbGUuaHRtbFwiIiwiZmllbGRzIjpbXSwib2Zmc2V0IjowLCJ0aW1lZnJhbWUiOiIxNDQwMCIsImdyYXBobW9kZSI6ImNvdW50IiwidGltZSI6eyJ1c2VyX2ludGVydmFsIjowfSwic3RhbXAiOjE0MDM1MTc1OTI1MjYsIm1vZGUiOiIiLCJhbmFseXplX2ZpZWxkIjoiIn0=10:00
therveStarted about 2h ago10:00
therveIt's likely to be a storage problem10:02
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openstackgerritAvishay Balderman proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Enable Python 3.4 enum in Neutron.  https://review.openstack.org/10117110:15
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ruhevponomaryov: ok. thank you!10:24
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tchayposo for otnight's fun, all my docs changes are returning "unstable" on the doc builds10:28
* tchaypo scrolls back and sees previous discussion10:28
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sdaguetchaypo: it's not just you, look like it's pretty systemic10:36
tchaypoI'mma raisa bug10:36
tchaypoI've confirmed that my logs also show sphinxv1.1.3 being installed10:37
tchaypoit distresses me slightly to see people in #infra directing people to github rather than git.openstack.org :p10:37
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sdaguetchaypo: the issue is an artifact upload issue10:38
sdagueit's not in the build itself10:38
sdagueif you look at the logs10:38
tchaypoyeah, that's exactly what i got from the logs10:38
tchaypoI'm glad we both read it that way, makes me more confident :)10:39
sdaguethat issue needs SergeyLukjanov or fungi to look in, as it's something wrong with static.openstack.org10:40
sdaguemy guess is we ran out of disk space10:40
tchaypohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/133309310:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333093 in openstack-ci "Connection to tarballs.openstack.org timed out" [Undecided,New]10:41
tchayposeems related, mayhap10:41
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sdaguecould be10:42
openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Docs for User class fixed  https://review.openstack.org/10185310:43
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SergeyLukjanovsdague, I'm here now, reading scrollback10:43
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for horizon upgrade bug  https://review.openstack.org/10185410:46
sdaguesomething is wrong with uploading docs-drafts -> static.o.o10:46
sdague*all* docs jobs failing because of it10:46
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tchaypohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/133319710:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333197 in openstack-ci "unstable docs gates on multiple projects" [Undecided,New]10:47
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tchaypoSergeyLukjanov: Welcome! Good morning! etc. I hope you've had your coffee :)10:47
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tchaypoIs this something for which it's worth using the bot to set everyone's status?10:48
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tchaypog1210:48
SergeyLukjanovsdague, I'm checking disk space atm10:49
SergeyLukjanovsdague, yup, we're out of space for docs - http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=718&rra_id=all10:50
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for horizon upgrade bug  https://review.openstack.org/10185410:52
sdagueSergeyLukjanov: do deleting all of docs-drafts is probably valid10:52
SergeyLukjanovsdague, probably yes10:52
tchaypoSergeyLukjanov: mind if I mark the bug as confirmed, assign to you, and add your discovery to the comments?10:53
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tchaypo(so that you can get on with doing useful work while someone else does shuffles paperwork)10:54
SergeyLukjanovtchaypo, yes, please, assign it to me (if its' re failing docs job)10:54
SergeyLukjanovsdague, I'm thinking about running "find . -mtime +3 -delete"10:54
openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Validate Project and Project Groups names  https://review.openstack.org/9872810:55
sdagueSergeyLukjanov: sounds good to me10:56
SergeyLukjanovsdague, correction: find . -mindepth 1 -mtime +3 -delete10:56
SergeyLukjanovto nit delete the dir itself :)10:56
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SergeyLukjanovsdaguem I've already cleaned 10 gigs for docs-draft11:03
SergeyLukjanovsdague ^^11:03
SergeyLukjanovsdague, now looking on why it's happens11:04
sdagueSergeyLukjanov: why what happens?11:04
SergeyLukjanovsdague, why we're out of space11:05
sdagueit looks like normal growth11:06
sdagueit's a pretty linear slope11:06
SergeyLukjanovsdague, for example I found that there were tons of log draft stored in old format11:06
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SergeyLukjanovsdague, and it was for CR # < 38000 and in 2013 year11:06
ruheSergeyLukjanov: can we run "recheck bug 1333197" now?11:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333197 in openstack-ci "unstable docs gates on multiple projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133319711:06
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: support date linking in syslog  https://review.openstack.org/9886711:06
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: add support for linking in grenade logs  https://review.openstack.org/10120911:07
SergeyLukjanovruhe, yup, it's "/dev/mapper/main-docs--draft  1.4T  1.4T   17G  99% /srv/static/docs-draft" now11:07
rakhmerovhey, I just logged in to this chat room. Has that bug with docs already been fixed?11:09
ruherakhmerov: yes, SergeyLukjanov fixed it11:09
rakhmerovawesome11:09
rakhmerovthnx11:10
ruherakhmerov: you can use "recheck bug 1333197" to restart jenkins jobs11:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333197 in openstack-ci "unstable docs gates on multiple projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133319711:10
rakhmerovsure, np11:10
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openstackgerritDavid Caro proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added possibility to use non-existent keys  https://review.openstack.org/10158011:18
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack-infra/gerritlib: Changed home-page used in setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/10186011:20
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for horizon upgrade bug  https://review.openstack.org/10185411:21
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tchaypoSergeyLukjanov: sorry, I got pulled away from the computer at exactly the wrong time :(11:22
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix ant builder definition in complete test  https://review.openstack.org/10171611:25
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SergeyLukjanovhashar, I've been thinking that we already have some cron that cleans our test/doc result dirs11:29
hasharSergeyLukjanov: looks like they are broken :-D11:29
SergeyLukjanovhashar, or just we're growing faster than we was thinking when writing cron jobs :)11:29
hasharSergeyLukjanov: there is a neat overlong find command in modules/openstack_project/files/log_archive_maintenance.sh11:31
hasharit is probably missing some bits or might not even run :-(11:31
sdagueSergeyLukjanov: when you get a chance, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101749/ is something worth reviewing. Part of what got us in trouble this weekend.11:31
SergeyLukjanovhashar, oh my....11:33
SergeyLukjanovsdague, sure, I'll take a look11:33
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SergeyLukjanovsdague, do you want to have it approved asap?11:40
sdagueSergeyLukjanov: no, it can wait for a 2nd +211:41
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sdagueit just needs to go in today some time11:41
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SergeyLukjanovsdague, ok, one +2 from me11:41
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Auth error handling  https://review.openstack.org/10186711:50
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for apt lock failure  https://review.openstack.org/10186912:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Error message & notification handling  https://review.openstack.org/9951512:08
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for apt lock failure  https://review.openstack.org/10186912:11
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/requirements: Add retrying to global-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10128712:15
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ttxsdague: question for you re: elastic-recheck. I see that you track bugs with a log signature and the uncategorized fails... Are you making use of raw "recheck bug #" data anymore ? (i.e. the old http://status.openstack.org/rechecks/ page ?)12:25
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fungimordred: dhellmann: any objection to changing the pbr bug supervisor group in launchpad from oslo-coresec to oslo-bugs?12:29
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fungiour bug update hook script account doesn't have access to act on pbr bugs since it's (rightfully) not in oslo-coresec12:30
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sdaguettx: nope12:32
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sdagueI've got a bulk tool to pull it out12:33
sdaguewe should integrate it at some point to help us find bugs12:33
sdaguebut it remains a todo12:33
sdaguethere is a reason we dropped the old page12:33
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ttxsdague: so it's still useful that people post bug numbers on rechecks, but it's no longer the key part of data collection12:33
sdagueyes12:33
ttxok, thx!12:33
* ttx updates slide12:34
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for swift HEAD race  https://review.openstack.org/10190412:40
sdaguettx: cool, what are the slides for?12:40
ttxsdague: Libre Software Meeting in Montpeller, July 8. I'm refreshing the presentation I gave to FOSDEM12:41
ttxIt's about the test automation infra12:42
sdaguecool12:42
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fetch graphitejs zuul dependency  https://review.openstack.org/9801812:43
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use the latest jquery on zuul  https://review.openstack.org/9802912:43
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add in support for 'recheck jenkins'  https://review.openstack.org/10013312:46
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add in new check-non-binding pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/9741112:51
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for swift HEAD race  https://review.openstack.org/10190412:59
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Added specification for storyboard story tags  https://review.openstack.org/9721113:12
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fungiSergeyLukjanov: regarding bug 1333197, what sorts of files did you find left over in the docs-draft docroot? hopefully not any ending in *.gz at least (what we currently delete)?13:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333197 in openstack-ci "unstable docs gates on multiple projects" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133319713:14
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Import pylockfile  https://review.openstack.org/10191113:24
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mordredfungi: works for me13:33
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dhellmannfungi: I can't imagine why it was oslo-coresec to begin with13:41
fungidhellmann: i suspect early on there was no oslo-bugs and only oslo-core13:41
fungiand then oslo-core got renamed to oslo-coresec13:42
dhellmannfungi: "coresec" is related to security, right?13:42
fungiand separately oslo got its own bug group but nobody updated pbr to use it13:42
dhellmannfungi: I've updated the bug tracker to use oslo-bugs now13:42
fungidhellmann: excellent--thanks!!!13:42
* dhellmann checks the other oslo libs not starting with oslo13:42
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mriedemnova's unit test jobs used to run against trunk level code of the dependent clients, like python-neutronclient, that doesn't appear to be the case anymore? is it uses latest released versions now?13:44
dhellmannfungi: I updated the projects for pycadf, stevedore, & cliff13:44
mriedem*using13:45
fungidhellmann: awesome. that should help13:45
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add oomichi to nova-core  https://review.openstack.org/10191413:46
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Import pylockfile  https://review.openstack.org/10191113:49
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Fix typo in DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST_NOVA_V3_API  https://review.openstack.org/10191513:49
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SergeyLukjanovfungi, morning14:01
SergeyLukjanovfungi, I've removed all old format docs-draft14:01
SergeyLukjanovfungi, like 3774514:02
SergeyLukjanovfungi, all of them were created in 201314:02
SergeyLukjanovfungi, and, so, we have ~200GB of free space in /srv/static/docs-draft14:02
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fungiSergeyLukjanov: i was mostly wondering whether our script which currently deletes *.gz files is working, and whether it was some other sorts of files you ended up deleting manually14:04
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SergeyLukjanovfungi, I'm not sure, I've checked the script, but, no ideas why it's not working as expected14:05
openstackgerritIsaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add tacker project on StackForge  https://review.openstack.org/9743514:05
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fungiSergeyLukjanov: well, it may be working as expected. it currently only tries to delete *.gz files and empty directories, so if we had lots of other files in there too it wouldn't touch them in its current state14:07
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SergeyLukjanovfungi, probably there were old files that are not gz-ed14:07
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add oomichi to nova-core  https://review.openstack.org/10191414:08
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Update alembic and SQLAlchemy versions  https://review.openstack.org/10191814:09
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: StoryBoard search spec  https://review.openstack.org/9725414:13
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zuldhellmann: yay! its zul ddos day today ;)14:16
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dhellmannzul: I think markmc is planning an oslo.messaging release, too14:17
zuldhellmann:  arrgh! :)14:17
dhellmannzul: let me know if you're getting enough detail about the release plans14:17
dhellmannzul: :-)14:17
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dhellmannzul: I'm trying to do releases on mondays to avoid weekend issues, but if batching them up is a problem I can spread them out over the week14:18
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zuldhellmann:  nah i rather have them on the monday so i can build up my todo list14:18
dhellmannzul: cool14:19
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phschwartzsome times I think if it wasn't for my bad luck, I would have no luck at all.14:20
phschwartz:(14:20
dhellmannphschwartz: "If it wasn't for disappointment, I wouldn't have any appointments at all..."14:20
jd__if anyone has a minute to give me ahint on why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101911/ fails (I know it's because I suck)14:20
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phschwartzdhellmann: Another good one.14:27
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anteayaphschwartz: you didn't hurt your back again did you?14:30
mdrnstmjd__: the pylockfile-docs job doesn't exist add the 'openstack-publish-jobs' to the jobs section in your entry in jenkins_job_builder14:30
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mdrnstmjd__: or don't add the docs job in zuul layout14:31
phschwartzanteaya: Worse. lol. I ended up with a severe infection in my tonsil and needed emergency surgery while out here in San Antonio for meetings.14:31
mdrnstmphschwartz: !!!!14:31
mdrnstmphschwartz: no good!14:31
phschwartzmdrnstm: Yeah, defn not fun.14:31
anteayajd__: Job pylockfile-docs not defined14:31
phschwartzStuck till at least wednesday as the Dr won't clear me to fly yet.14:32
anteayaphschwartz: no!14:32
anteayayeah, do not fly with an infection14:32
anteayait just moves deeper into your body14:32
mdrnstmalso don't fly just post-op14:32
anteayacan you drive home? or train?14:32
anteayamdrnstm: agreed14:33
mdrnstmanteaya: train! good idea14:33
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anteayayou can work on the train14:33
mdrnstmphschwartz: you should listen to anteaya she's smart!14:33
phschwartzanteaya: They removed the infection in the OR on Friday. Just waiting to be cleared to fly again. Staying here till then.14:33
anteayathey should have wifi14:33
mdrnstm:)14:33
anteayaphschwartz: ahhhh, I still wouldn't be flying14:33
anteayahow many days would the train be, San Antonio to home?14:34
phschwartzanteaya: From what I saw, about 414:34
mdrnstmbesides train rides can be fun :)14:34
anteayayeah, 4 days of 50% work is better than getting home and sick or complications14:35
anteayabut that would be what I would choose14:35
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Import pylockfile  https://review.openstack.org/10191114:35
mdrnstmanteaya: +1million14:35
mdrnstmphschwartz: don't rush to get onto a plane and get worse, thats all we're sayin :)14:35
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phschwartzmdrnstm: Defn not rushing.14:36
phschwartzAnd ty all for the concern.14:36
zuldhellmann:  only wheel files are available on pypi?14:37
dhellmannzul: yes, for alphas we're only publishing wheels to avoid breaking existing users with old pips14:38
zuldhellmann:  so where can i get the tarballs? tarballs.openstack.org?14:38
dhellmannzul: some of that is described at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/VersioningPolicy14:38
dhellmannzul: yes, the tarballs should be published just like other releases14:38
mordredzul: the tarballs will always go to tarballs.o.o14:38
zulok thanks14:39
mordredzul: and when we make final releases, they will go to both places14:39
mordredspeaking of ...14:39
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mordredfungi: we should really probably at some point actually maybe put an ssl cert on tarballs.o.o?14:39
fungimordred: we could, though we've also been publishing to pypi and/or launchpad14:40
Shrewsfungi: how do i stop getting spammed from https://review-dev.openstack.org/415 ????14:40
fungimordred: but i certainly don't have anything against adding some transport security to the tarballs site14:40
mordredfungi: but we have things we're _only_ publishing to tarballs.o.o now14:40
mordredwhich crazy people like zul may want to consume14:41
zulmordred:  yes...im crazy..14:41
fungiShrews: do you get a little "x" next to your name in the reviewers list on it when you log in?14:41
Shrewsfungi: nope14:41
fungimordred: ohh... tarballs for pre-releases (of which we only upload wheels to pypi) and branch tip tarballs. got it14:41
Shrewsmordred probably gets the same spam14:41
mordredsomeone around who knows puppet better than me:14:42
mordrederr: /Stage[main]/Openstack_project::Template/Service[rsyslog]: Could not evaluate: undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass14:42
mordredwhat shoudl I be lokoing for?14:42
fungiShrews: i had to restore it before i could delete reviewers from it14:42
hasharmordred: sounds like a variable is not initialized in the template.  Ie a puppet variable is not properly set14:43
hasharmordred: probably an array if you are invoking  []14:43
Shrewsfungi: ah ha! many many many thanks14:43
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hasharmordred: they are a pity to properly spot since puppet does not tell you which variable in the template is actually being used nor any line number.14:43
jd__thanks mdrnstm btw14:44
mdrnstmjd__:  NP!14:44
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mordredhashar: thanks. I'll go searching in that area...14:44
fungiShrews: but the long answer to your question is to figure out why https://review.openstack.org/95836 isn't working for review-dev14:45
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mordredShrews: I ignore all gerrit mail14:45
morganfainbergAha! I just remembered i could kick my ZNC server offline via nickserv14:45
Shrewsmordred: i do something similar for email from you14:46
mordredShrews: wise choice14:46
morganfainbergfungi: who should i chase down this week to get the keystonemiddleware repo pushed through? got some people who want to continue working on middleware stuffs but don't want to do the work in multiple places14:47
morganfainbergfungi: and you can say "not me" and i totally understand :)14:47
fungimorganfainberg: possibly me, but i need to catch back up on reviewing after being effectively absent for a week14:47
morganfainbergfungi: cool. yeah catchingup is good14:48
mordredmorganfainberg: review link?14:51
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morganfainbergmordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101406/14:51
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morganfainbergmordred: hope to solve the client dep issues this way (no more memcache as a dep for keystoneclient)14:52
morganfainbergamong other things14:52
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mordredmorganfainberg: +214:53
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morganfainbergmordred: cool14:53
morganfainbergmordred: tyvm14:53
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jeblairit's storyboard meeting time in #openstack-meeting-315:02
morganfainbergjeblair: ooooh i should listen in :)15:02
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anteayayjiang5: I made a wiki page for you, please put the correct information in the table, you can add additional information down below the table to further explain your system, if you have any questions please ask, and I will edit the page if I need to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Intel-PCI-CI15:07
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: this query is too broad to be useful  https://review.openstack.org/10193115:19
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sdaguemordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101870 - I'm kind of wondering if that will help with the apt repo issues15:42
mordredsdague: me lookie15:43
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mordredsdague: 20 is sensible?15:44
sdagueno idea15:44
mordredawesome15:44
mordredsdague: totally worth trying15:44
sdaguein the base case it doesn't change anything15:44
sdagueneed to see how it reacts in the fail case15:44
sdaguebut it seemed like a big number might get us past even medium sized network outages15:45
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mordred++15:47
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: this query is too broad to be useful  https://review.openstack.org/10193116:01
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jeblairsdague, mordred: maybe we want to puppet that onto all the test nodes?  maybe servers too?16:02
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mordredjeblair: seems like a good idea16:05
mordredI mean, I think devstack should also do it16:05
mordredbut the two should not conflict16:05
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jeblairmordred: yeah, was suggesting potential next step if we like it16:05
mordred++16:05
zaromorning16:07
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Configure apt to retry more on failures  https://review.openstack.org/10194416:10
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mordredjeblair: ^^16:11
zarofungi: you might have an interest in this discussion: http://paste.openstack.org/show/84589/16:11
mordredzaro: if that is a  discussion, it's a strange one :)16:13
jeblairmordred, zaro: that looks like me talking to a groovy interpreter16:14
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zarooops, don't know how that happened, fungi it's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/4793716:20
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fungitechnical difficulties, please stand by (my broadband connection keeps going down for 20 minutes at a stretch, then coming back up for about 10 seconds, so hopefully this bursts through in the next active window)16:22
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jeblairfungi: are you in your new location?16:25
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add support for disk-image-builder in nodepool  https://review.openstack.org/8847916:27
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jeblairzaro: i'll push a tag for gearman-plugin 0.0.7 now, ok?16:28
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jeblairzaro: done16:29
jeblairclarkb: hopefully that will be available soon ^16:30
anteayakrtaylor: you around today?16:31
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fungiboris-42: yes, in my new location, but clearly internet access is leaving something to be desired for the moment16:33
jeblairfungi: it's tidal!16:33
fungier, jeblair (not boris-42)16:33
pleia2good morning16:36
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sdagueI also wonder if we should run a preflight tests on these nodes before we get started16:37
sdagueI feel like we discover network connectivity issues really late16:37
sdaguein really odd wasy16:37
anteayamorning pleia216:38
sdagueand if we had some set of end points that we try connectivity tests upfront on a test, and fail to connect a lot, that would help find the pattern a little easier16:38
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jeblairsdague: do you think they are instance-specific problems?  or network-wide problems with a temporal aspect?16:41
sdaguejeblair: I don't know16:41
sdaguewhich is part of the problem16:42
sdagueand reassembling the quality of a network in a zone from the various ways that it fails, is pretty tough16:42
sdaguemaybe if we didn't fail, but just collected some data up front, that would be enough16:42
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jeblairsdague: yeah, doing some tests and logging that somewhere and then including those logs in later test runs so we can correlate them may provide the needed data16:47
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sdagueso maybe if we start with pypi.openstack.org, because we fail there pretty often. Do 20 icmp packets, and try to GET something 10 times from there, and log the results. You think that would be sufficient as a starting point?16:48
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds addtional details for browsable logs for third party ci  https://review.openstack.org/10122716:49
jeblairsdague: ++16:49
sdagueok, I'll propose a utility for devstack-gate for that16:50
sdagueas a starting point16:50
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jeblairsdague: k.  if you want to run these on node spinup, you can use the nodepool 'node test' feature16:51
jeblair(it's acceptance testing; of course the acceptance part is optional)16:51
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NobodyCammorning infra... just seeing if anyone has a few minutes to take a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100063/ already has two +2's16:52
jeblairsdague: (i think you were thinking of doing something with cpu speed too which brought that up in an earlier conversation)16:52
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sdaguejeblair: yeh, though I want the data available in ES so we can possibly using it for trending16:53
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openstackgerritpatrick-crews proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Initial work to add query namespace to elastic-recheck.  https://review.openstack.org/10195817:20
lifelessAlex_Gaynor: hey, who would be a good eventlet person to chat to about bug 132178717:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1321787 in ironic "Paramiko does not properly work with eventlet concurrency" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132178717:20
Alex_Gaynorlifeless: is this an eventlet bug, or a paramiko bug?17:20
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clarkbo/17:21
clarkbjeblair: zaro woot thanks17:21
clarkbI figured my day would be spent with jenkins plugins17:22
lifelessAlex_Gaynor:my understanding is that its a race condition in eventlet where it loses track of fd's right as they are closed and until its lookaside table is reset it will spuriously whinge17:22
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lifelessAlex_Gaynor: the engineer that really groks it all is at the end of their day, but will be hopefully fully explaining it soon17:23
lifelessAlex_Gaynor: I'm just looking to tie relevant folk together right now17:23
Alex_Gaynorlifeless: hmm, I don't know the current eventlet maintainers really, Sergey I think does most of the work?17:23
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sdaguelifeless: comstud has spent a ton of time with eventlet, he might be good to ask17:26
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lifelesssdague: thanks17:28
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lifelessNg: / adam_g: ^17:28
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comstudah, that bug.17:28
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comstudI'd have to dig a little bit to understand this better17:30
comstudwhich I don't have time for this second17:30
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SlickNikfungi / clarkb: We've had some failures for a few trove doc jobs where the job failed to scp the docs files to static.openstack.org causing the jenkins job to fail as "unstable".17:33
SlickNikknown issue / something going on?17:34
anteayahey clarkb17:34
SlickNikexample: http://logs.openstack.org/54/100654/2/check/gate-trove-docs/3b78cba/17:34
mordredgoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool17:34
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clarkbSlickNik: apparently we ran out of disk on that node. I believe SergeyLukjanov manually cleaned it up and looking at mail fungi suggested a fix for the cron jobs that should've done this for us17:37
SlickNikclarkb: A-ok. Wanted to let you guys know, and looks like you have it covered. Thanks much!17:39
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anteayabug 1333197 if I recall correctly17:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333197 in openstack-ci "unstable docs gates on multiple projects" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133319717:44
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anteayayep17:44
clarkbjeblair: zaro: I am going to upgrade gearman plugin on jenkins-dev really quickly just to keep it up to date with the other jenkinses17:44
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add support for disk-image-builder in nodepool  https://review.openstack.org/8847917:44
clarkbbut zaro already tested that plugin on his side so I won't spend a ton of time doing that17:45
clarkbjeblair: zaro: then I will put 07 in shutdown mode and prep it for upgrading17:45
clarkbdoes that sound good?17:45
clarkbhrm update center in jenkins doesn't see 0.0.7 yet17:46
* clarkb looks into that17:46
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clarkbhttp://tarballs.openstack.org/ci/gearman-plugin/gearman-plugin-0.0.7.hpi there it is. maybe jenkins side just needs to update? I am looking for job longs to confirm we uploaded to them17:47
clarkbhttps://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gearman-plugin-jenkinsci-upload/1/console seems to confirm it17:47
clarkbI will do manual install with the hpi we built17:47
jeblairclarkb: cool.  i'm going to have a reduced irc presence for the next bit while i try to finish some programming tasks i didn't get to last week17:49
clarkbok17:49
jeblairi'll check back in later17:49
mordredDUDE17:49
clarkbmordred: should I Be watching the game?17:49
mordredclarkb: well, not any  more17:50
mordredclarkb: robben stuck a knife in their heart a 92 minutes17:50
clarkbafter yesterday I am all :/17:50
clarkbbut in other yesterday news: OSCON beers are brewed17:50
clarkbfungi: pleia2 ^17:50
mordredclarkb: yah.17:50
mordredoh good!17:50
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clarkbhopefully they come out good17:51
pleia2aw, no oscon for me this time around17:52
pleia2(but also am off alcohol for the time being, so there's that :))17:52
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clarkboh no I guess that means there is more beer for other people then :)17:53
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pleia2indeed!17:53
morganfainbergoscon beer?! man17:53
morganfainbergi want some!17:54
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anteayainvite me, there is always more beer for others17:54
pleia2will be most sad to be in germany w/o beer drinking17:54
anteaya:(17:54
anteayapottery17:54
anteayathere will be pottery, architecture and cars17:55
anteayapossibly watches17:55
morganfainbergclarkb: I'm going to be mean and evil here and ask if you'll have time to look over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101406/ today, we (keystone) want to get new developmnet moved ot new repo for middleware17:55
pleia2yeah, but beer is kinda my thing, I travel the world for beers! ;)17:55
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pleia2I'm sure I'll enjoy my time there17:55
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morganfainbergclarkb: :) if you're swamped i'll keep looking for folks who can help in the early part of this week.17:56
clarkbmorganfainberg: I brewed two five gallon SMaSH (single malt and single hop) beers using maris otter as the malt and simcoe as the hop in one beer and citra in the other17:56
pleia2nice17:56
clarkbI am hoping that they come out as similar but distinct and drinkable summer pale ales17:56
clarkbI have never brewed either recipe and sort of pulled it out of thin air so we'll see17:57
morganfainbergclarkb: oooooh nice summer ale. something light and drinkable. so nice.  Let me know how it turns out!17:57
clarkb(it is hard to screw up beer though, yeast are amazing)17:57
clarkbmorganfainberg: I can take a look once I get jenkins in a spot where I am waiting for it17:58
morganfainbergclarkb:  awesome, really appreciate it17:58
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notmynameclarkb: can I talk with you about feature branches in swift?18:04
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openstackgerritpritesh proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Add hacking check for vim configuration in source files  https://review.openstack.org/10196918:06
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clarkbnibalizer: sure18:07
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clarkbwow tab complete fail18:11
clarkbnotmyname: sure18:11
annegent_clarkb: heh happens all the time18:12
notmynameclarkb: cool. as you know, we've merged storage policies (SP). we'd been working on that on the "feature/ec" branch18:12
notmynameclarkb: so here's the "problem". the feature/ec branch actually has zero erasure code work on it, but that's what we're starting now. so we'd prefer to reuse that name18:13
notmynameclarkb: I know you don't want to lose that history, even though it wasn't ever merged to master in that form18:13
notmynameclarkb: so I'd like to either rename the existing feature/ec to something else and clean out feature/ec to start fresh. or find a different solution18:14
jesusaurusnotmyname: are you wanting to reset the feature/ec branch to start the erasure work?18:14
clarkbnotmyname: renaming would probably work18:14
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clarkbeg feature/thingthatactuallyhappenedonthatbranch18:14
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clarkbthen feature/ec can start from an appropriate point in time18:14
jesusaurusif you arent going to move forward at all with the current state of the branch, you could tag it then reset the branch18:15
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notmynameclarkb: right. or "feature/storage-policies-historical" would be more correct. all the work was put on feature/sp-review and merged that way18:15
notmynamejesusaurus: ah, yes. a tag to keep in and then delete/recreate the branch name would work18:15
notmynames/in/it18:15
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H904  https://review.openstack.org/10170118:16
notmynameclarkb: jesusaurus: there will never be anything else merged on top of the part of the DAG that is currently called "feature/ec". that makes me like the tag idea18:16
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H803, it's mostly an old flamewar  https://review.openstack.org/10149818:16
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H305 because it's python version specific  https://review.openstack.org/10149918:16
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H402  https://review.openstack.org/10149718:16
notmynameclarkb: would you be ok with a storage-policy-historical tag at the current HEAD of feature/ec? then delete/recreate "feature/ec" off of current HEAD of master?18:17
clarkbnotmyname: sure I think that works too18:17
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sdagueclarkb: any chance to land this today - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101749/ ? that's a piece of digging us out the django auth hole18:20
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clarkbsdague: done18:22
nibalizerclarkb: :)18:22
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sdagueclarkb: thanks!18:22
sdaguealso, mtreinish not so good with variable naming - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101915/ :)18:23
sdaguethat should get the nova v3 tests running in nightlies18:24
notmynameclarkb: sounds like the tag and branch delete+recreate is pleasing to others, too. what does it take from our end to make it happen?18:25
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clarkbnotmyname: you will need to select a sha1/commit to tag, pick a name for this tag, then it will need to be tagged (you may be able to do this or the release managers may have to do it because of permissions). Once that is done we can delete branch and create it again with a new HEAD18:26
clarkbsdague: ttx ^ I believe you are release managers18:26
notmynameclarkb: I may be able to. let me try18:26
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clarkbjenkins-dev looks good with new plugin. I did a simple check where I made it talk to a geard on zuul-dev and set up two slaves with different labels then added both labels OR'd together on a job18:29
clarkbI am going to put jenkins07 in shutdown mode now in prep for upgrading that node18:30
anteayaclarkb: where is the logs.o.o puppet server manifest?18:30
notmynameclarkb: "error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://notmyname@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/swift.git'"  /sad18:30
clarkbanteaya: it is part of the static.o.o host.18:30
anteayais there more than what is here? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/manifests/site.pp18:31
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clarkbnotmyname: ya so I think we need to run it by the release managers. I am happy to do the actual work as long as they are happy with it or they can do it for us18:31
clarkbmordred: ^18:31
notmynamethanks18:31
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: double up [ for safety  https://review.openstack.org/10072818:32
sdagueclarkb: seems sane to me, but it's probably worth getting ttx's pov18:33
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sdagueunless he's already expressed an opinion one way or another about it18:33
notmynamettx: help me, release manager privileges person. you're my only hope18:33
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clarkbjenkins07 is now in shutdown mode18:39
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: test django_openstack_auth on stable releases  https://review.openstack.org/10174918:40
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mordredclarkb: the latest patch up for dib-nodepool works for devstack-gate images. I'm working on thick_slave next18:41
clarkbmordred: cool18:41
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mordredclarkb: the CONFIG_REF env var has not worked exactly as I expected, so I _may_ have troubleshot a few too many things18:42
clarkbmordred: I probably should have documented that more...18:43
mordredclarkb: well, I don't think it was that18:43
mordredclarkb: as much as I was operating in a detached head because I just did a checkout of a ref fetched from gerrit18:43
clarkbah18:44
mordredand it didnt' _Break_ b... but it also did not do what one might expect18:44
clarkbright it would've grabbed master or something18:45
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add presend-script to email-ext  https://review.openstack.org/9999418:47
mordredclarkb: I'm just explicitly setting it to a ref for now - I'll figure out the magic later18:47
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clarkbmordred: I used a branch name eg dib18:48
clarkbmordred: then I could stack all kinds of commits and reorder and so on and it worked18:48
sdagueclarkb: is libwww-perl in the d-g nodes?18:48
clarkbsdague: uh let me check18:48
mordredit's not in our puppet18:49
sdagueI'm so used to using GET18:49
mordredwhat is GET?18:49
sdaguereally easy way to do http get18:49
clarkbsdague: does not appear to be18:49
sdagueclarkb: ok18:49
clarkbp   libwww-perl from aptitude instaed of i libwww-perl18:50
sdagueok, no prob18:50
sdagueI'll figure out the curl flags I need for this18:50
anteayasweston: I'm going to go for a walk now, be back in around an hour18:51
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anteayaclarkb: can you fix the topic in #openstack-meeting please?18:52
swestonanteaya: ok, I will be going to lunch soon, as well :-)18:52
anteayasweston: kk18:52
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clarkbanteaya: how doe sthat look?18:53
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: add network_sanity_check  https://review.openstack.org/10197618:55
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anteayaclarkb: much better, thank you18:55
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Make 'keep_descriptions' fully optional  https://review.openstack.org/10009818:56
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clarkbfungi: are you still moving?19:00
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clarkbfungi: https://review.openstack.org/101071 would be a good one for you to review19:01
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clarkbmorganfainberg: structuraly your project addition lgtm. Curious if that code needs to be part of the integrated gate with tempest though?19:03
clarkbmorganfainberg: or is that a future step once you have things broken out?19:03
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sdagueit does19:06
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clarkb07 has about ~25 minutes to go before restarting with new gearman plugin19:06
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clarkbI am going to grab lunch now so that I don't waste time with that19:06
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morganfainbergclarkb: it will need to be, but we aren't integrating yet19:07
clarkbmorganfainberg: sdague so its ok for now?19:07
morganfainbergclarkb: i was figuring when we were ready to release 1.0.0 we'd do an alpha, cut over a project, and add integrated tests19:07
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morganfainbergclarkb: if we'd rather start with the tempest integrated test i am happy to add that right now19:07
morganfainbergsdague: ^19:07
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sdaguemordred: and stable-compat19:08
morganfainbergit's a couple of lines in the config (or i can do it as an addon patch to this one)19:08
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morganfainbergsdague: sure.19:08
sdaguethen we need to put the git tree into devstack like we do for keystoneclient19:08
sdagueotherwise you are likely to release a version which wrecks the world :)19:08
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sdaguelike django_openstack_auth19:08
morganfainbergsdague: aye. but i wanted to get the repo spun up before we tried that :)19:09
sdaguesure19:09
morganfainbergsdague: all in measured steps :)19:09
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sdaguebut if you add the tests you'll be fine, just burning a couple more resources until the repos are all in place19:09
morganfainbergsdague, clarkb, ok, want that in this patch or a follow-on patch?19:10
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sdaguejust because I feel like I reported the same keystone middlware cert corruption bug 3 times last year :)19:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 3 in launchpad "Custom information for each translation team" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319:10
morganfainbergsdague: no complaints from me :)19:10
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sdaguethanks uvirtbot, very helpful19:10
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morganfainbergbug 519:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 5 in launchpad "Plone Placeless Translation Service metadata missing from po files" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519:11
morganfainberg>.>19:11
sdaguemorganfainberg: yeh, so lets add the gate and stable-compat jobs in that change before it lands19:11
morganfainbergsdague: ok will get that updated shortly19:11
sdaguethen the devstack repo changes will be self testing once you have a repo and propose those19:11
morganfainbergsdague:  yep19:11
morganfainberggetting this review today will get us unblocked on further dev, and we will make sure to get all the rest of the testing stuff in before the first rrelease19:12
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Split the database grants into their own class  https://review.openstack.org/9858619:14
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add support for disk-image-builder in nodepool  https://review.openstack.org/8847919:14
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add additional node types to dib elements  https://review.openstack.org/9056519:14
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morganfainbergsdague: do you want me to add the tempest-cells etc nonvoting tests like ksc has?19:15
sdaguemorganfainberg: ok, after you respin that, I'm trying to understand the path to mod_wsgi testing, and I'm not sure I see it19:15
sdaguemorganfainberg: no need19:16
morganfainbergk19:16
sdaguejust integrated-gate and stable-compat templates19:16
morganfainbergyep19:16
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add additional node types to dib elements  https://review.openstack.org/9056519:16
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openstackgerritMorgan Fainberg proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add keystonemiddleware project  https://review.openstack.org/10140619:16
morganfainbergsdague: ok for mod_wsgi, this one is easy19:17
morganfainbergtalked this over with dtroyer a bunch19:17
jesusaurusmy nodepool seems to have two versions of each image. shouldnt the image-update be deleting the old image after the new image is good to go?19:17
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morganfainbergsdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101611/ changes how we enable mod_wsgi for services that we want to run it under.19:18
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morganfainbergsdague: before we can turn on the default (in lib/keystone) we need grenade to not deploy keystone under mod_wsgi (icehouse -> juno)  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100764/19:18
morganfainbergsdague: then we change the default https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100747/19:19
sdagueok, so at the end of the day, we'll have what knobs.19:19
morganfainbergglobal disable mod_wsgi for all services19:19
sdaguebecause actually the knob interaction slightly confuses me :)19:19
morganfainbergENABLE_HTTPD_MOD_WSGI_SERVICES19:20
morganfainbergand one for keystone, KEYSTONE_USE_MOD_WSGI, and one for swfit: SWIFT_USE_MOD_WSGI19:20
morganfainbergif the global is false, the others don't matter19:20
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sdagueok, so I guess the thing that confused me is why ENABLE_HTTPD_MOD_WSGI_SERVICES wasn't used as the default for KEYSTONE_USE_MOD_WSGI19:20
sdaguefor instance19:20
morganfainbergah, in the one that enables keystone as the default that is a fine option19:21
sdagueyeh19:21
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/101611/6/lib/keystone19:21
morganfainbergwell no, initially that needs to be false19:21
sdagueI had expected ENABLE_HTTPD_MOD_WSGI_SERVICES would be the default, instead of False19:21
morganfainbergbecause we don't want to enble mod_wsgi for keystone there19:22
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morganfainbergwe need a grenade fix to merge first19:22
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morganfainbergi'm trying to keep the change in behavior isolated, the first patch only changes how we enable mod_Wsgi for keystone and swift.19:22
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sdaguebut in that case shouldn't ENABLE_HTTPD_MOD_WSGI_SERVICES=False?19:23
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morganfainbergah ok here is the disconnect19:23
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morganfainbergi was keeping a function from lib/apache19:24
morganfainberguse_mod_wsgi19:24
sdagueyeh19:24
sdagueok, so I think this is where I added to the confusion19:24
sdaguewhen I meant a global switch, I actually didn't mean a kill switch19:24
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "disable voting on gate-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic"  https://review.openstack.org/10062319:24
morganfainbergthe main reason i kept that was to allow a global kill switch :P19:24
sdaguebut flip it true, all services are wsgi19:24
morganfainbergexcept that swift doesn't want that :P19:25
notmynamewhat don't we want?19:25
sdagueok, but then swift we set false in stackrc19:25
morganfainbergah19:25
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morganfainbergnotmyname:  mod_Wsgi default19:25
sdagueI think realistically data api services probably want to be false by default19:25
sdagueswift, marconi both19:26
notmynamemorganfainberg: ie run swift behind apache? ya, that's not general practice in prod. although it may be done in some places, it's not really what' reflects dev or prod reality in the general case19:26
morganfainbergnotmyname: right and makes sense19:26
morganfainbergsdague: we likely will have other services eventually move behind apache (or able to be moved) so i agree the toggle should be global19:26
notmynamealso, I really think swift should be on by default in devstack, too19:27
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morganfainbergsdague: so you'd rather have this respun so keystone is just controlled globally default via the new ENABLE.xxxxxservices var?19:27
morganfainbergsame for swift, but overridden in stackrc to be false19:27
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sdaguenotmyname: is there still the issue that the swift ports overlap with the X ports?19:28
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sdagueIIRC that's the historical reason it's not19:29
notmynamesdague: defaults haven't changed, but there is _nothing_ preventing changing those in the config for devstack19:29
notmynamesdague: also, why is devstack running X? ;-)19:29
sdaguedevstack isn't running X19:29
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sdaguebut people often install it on environments where X exists19:30
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morganfainbergsdague, clarkb, mordred, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101406/ added integration tests and stable on sdague's request19:30
morganfainbergsdague:  ok i can fix up the devstack stuff once i get some lunch and coffee (mod_wsgi)19:31
sdaguemorganfainberg: cool19:32
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notmynamesdague: then let's change the devstack config to use ports between 10000 and 20000. whatever works19:32
morganfainbergnotmyname: check the linux ephemeral ports19:33
morganfainbergnotmyname: if you're setting to use those, you need to do what keystone did and reserve them. [e.g. be careful]19:33
* morganfainberg doesn't remember the cutoff for linux vs IANA ephemeral ports19:34
notmynamemorganfainberg: I'm not proposing changing the defaults in swift, I'm proposing setting the value in devstack to something that doesn't conflict with X (people aren't running devstack in a VM?)19:34
morganfainbergnotmyname: right, but if the new ports in devstack are in the ephemeral range of linux, you could end up not being able to bind to the port if it is in use19:35
morganfainbergwe saw that occur about 1 in 10000 for keystone in gate19:35
morganfainbergand we had 1 port to worry about19:36
notmynamemorganfainberg: sdague: so if we changed the default in swift, what would be a better range?19:36
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morganfainbergnotmyname: i don't have an answer for a better default.  :(19:37
morganfainbergnotmyname: 8281-8291 "not assigned" according to IANA list19:38
morganfainberg?19:38
sdaguenotmyname: or get IANA assignments19:39
morganfainbergsdague: ++19:39
sdaguemorganfainberg: we can always block the ephemeral points19:39
sdagueports19:39
morganfainbergsdague: yep, and i'm happy to help other people get that in within devstack and tripleo as well if needed19:39
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notmynamesdague: morganfainberg: what's the current state/opinion on that? I was under the impression that, although some corporate contributors had filed for IANA ports, openstack wasn't doing that19:40
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: fix missing AND in query  https://review.openstack.org/10198419:41
morganfainbergi know keystone has 35357, which is really useful since everything else can be resolved from the service catalog19:41
sdaguenotmyname: that's a good question, I know that keystone did get it. I think realistically the assumption is that services would move to wsgi which means ports wouldn't be needed.19:41
morganfainbergas to other services getting IANA ports, that would be a question for the tc19:41
sdaguebut as that's specifically not the intent for swift, I think getting IANA ports would be good19:42
morganfainbergand swift largly is deployed without keystone19:42
notmynamemorganfainberg: ya, I can see the logic of just having keystone (ie the catalog) as the one with ports19:42
morganfainbergwouldn't hurt to have IANA ports for that case19:42
notmynamesdague: what do you mean "not the intent"?19:42
morganfainbergnotmyname: not indenting to make the default deployment of swift run under mod_Wsgi19:43
morganfainbergs/indent/intending19:43
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notmynameah, right. under mod_wsgi specifically. however, just this morning, I read this which renews hope for nginx-like stuff (http://dmsimard.com/2014/06/21/a-use-case-of-tengine-a-drop-in-replacement-and-fork-of-nginx/)19:44
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clarkbwaiting on one last job on 07 so that I can stop it and upgrade the jenkins gearman plugin there19:46
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: fix missing AND in query  https://review.openstack.org/10198419:46
morganfainbergclarkb: ok headed to get lunch and coffee, let me know if you need anything else (besides time) for the middleware repo stuff19:47
notmynamemorganfainberg: sdague: frankly, I'm not particularly tied to running swift under eventlet's wsgi server. it's the worst one out there, except for all the others (to borrow from churchill)19:47
sdaguenotmyname: :)19:48
morganfainbergnotmyname: hehe19:48
sdaguenotmyname: well, I think the question is do you see the default moving towards running on port 80, at which point, ports are irrelevant, or not? If yes, we head there. If not, I'd say getting assigned ports is useful.19:49
clarkbok doing jenkins07 now19:52
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clarkb07 is up running latest gearman plugin 0.0.819:58
clarkber 0.0.719:58
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clarkbgoing to let this burn in for a bit (probably one tempest round so ~45 minutes)20:00
clarkbthen move on to doing two jenkinses at a time20:01
clarkbwith build timeout upgrade as well20:01
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clarkb07 looks happy so far there are jobs succeeding20:03
james_liHi clarkb I guess trusty is still not ready. If that is the case I am going to migrate solum gate to F20.20:05
clarkbjames_li: it is 90% ready20:05
james_lias we want to enable docker20:05
james_liah20:05
james_liclarkb: good to know20:06
clarkbit should work on an tests that you don't need to select precise for older branches on20:06
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clarkbthe current issue is we need to run tests on precise for icehouse and havana but that isn't working20:06
clarkbI am rolling out the fix for that now20:06
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clarkbthen can reenable the switchover that we tried on friday20:06
james_liclarkb: ok. thanks for update. yeah we prefer to use ubuntu, but I guess the best bet for now is to switch to F20 temporarily?20:08
clarkbwhy not just use trusty?20:08
clarkbeither way is fine I guess20:08
james_liclarkb: think the only reason is I need to run all the tests again on a trusty vagrant box20:10
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james_libut I need to run it anyway20:10
james_liI mean I just finished testing F2020:10
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james_liclarkb: so I just specify “node: devstack-trusty”20:11
clarkbyes20:11
james_liright?20:11
james_liclarkb: ok20:12
fungiFINALLY my internet access has returned to a usable state20:12
clarkbfungi: yay20:13
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Normalize Gerrit ACL documentation  https://review.openstack.org/9306420:13
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a script to normalize Gerrit ACLs  https://review.openstack.org/9306520:13
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Strip/condense whitespace and sort Gerrit ACLs  https://review.openstack.org/9306620:13
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Get rid of unneeded tags create in Gerrit ACLs  https://review.openstack.org/9306720:13
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove active project.state in Gerrit ACLs  https://review.openstack.org/9306820:13
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Strip *.owner Administrators from Gerrit ACLs  https://review.openstack.org/9306920:13
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Sort exclusiveGroupPermissions in Gerrit ACLs  https://review.openstack.org/9307020:13
clarkbjames_li: there may be some additional changes that need to be made as part of the cutover later, but I can roll that into my changes20:13
clarkbjames_li: so not something you should have t owrry about20:13
fungithus that ^ (was able to address all previous concerns while i was stuck waiting)20:13
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james_liclarkb: cool20:13
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jesusaurusis there anyone around who can help me understand what happened in http://logs.openstack.org/43/74943/5/check/gate-nodepool-python26/993f715/console.html.gz ? is that a known bug?20:15
james_liclarkb: and how to enable nova-docker on solum gate? I mean we want devstack to call nova-docker’s contrib code.20:15
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james_lito setup a local docker registry20:16
jesusaurushttp://logs.openstack.org/43/74943/5/check/gate-nodepool-python26/993f715/console.html.gz#_2014-06-19_21_22_49_191 is where it gets interesting20:16
clarkbjames_li: you will have to run devstack in a way that runs your code20:16
clarkbjames_li: sorry I am not super familiar with that process but aiui you copy your things into devstack and set the correct flags then run devstack20:17
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clarkbjesusaurus: its a timing issue20:17
jesusaurusclarkb: have you seen ^that^ before20:17
clarkbjesusaurus: yes20:17
clarkbjesusaurus: basically the test suite sleeps for X seconds then checks the state of nodepool after20:17
clarkbwhich races in some cases20:17
clarkb:/20:17
clarkbsee how it says 2!=1? it wanted to assert one node would be booted but 2 got booted because it waited to long iirc20:18
james_liclarkb: fungi besides copying solum contrib codes into devstack, we also want to copy nova-docker’s contrib code into devstack.20:18
james_lihot to do that?20:18
jesusaurusoh, is that what it's asserting? huh20:18
clarkbwith git clone?20:18
clarkbjesusaurus: ya20:18
james_lis/hot/how20:18
clarkbjesusaurus: it runs the allocation engine in the background then checks the allocations20:19
clarkbjesusaurus: but if given long enough it boots more nodes20:19
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jesusaurusclarkb: i dont see anything like that in /rechecks, do you happen to know a bug number i can recheck on?20:22
clarkbjesusaurus: no, we thought it was fixed20:22
clarkbbut that run is new enough that it probably needs new bug20:23
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jesusaurusclarkb: and how would i take advantage of elastic-recheck with this bug?20:24
clarkbjesusaurus: you can write an elasticsearch query for that traceback where 2!=120:25
sdagueclarkb: curl isn't in d-g?20:26
mordredsdague: curl or wget should be on d-g nodes20:26
mordredsdague: we use one or the other to get get-pip20:27
jesusaurusclarkb: you think thats the identifiable bit, rather than "No handlers could be found for logger..."?20:27
mordredsdague: curl -O $PIP_GET_PIP_URL || wget $PIP_GET_PIP_URL20:27
mordredpython get-pip.py20:27
mordredsdague: we do that in "install_puppet.sh"20:27
clarkbjesusaurus: yes, no handlers could be found is just noise20:28
sdaguemordred: http://logs.openstack.org/76/101976/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/4e97184/logs/devstack-gate-setup-host.txt.gz#_2014-06-23_18_59_29_93020:28
clarkbI am going to put 05 and 06 in shutdown mode shortly20:29
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clarkband done20:32
fungisdague: that error is coming from your change20:32
sdaguefungi: yeh20:32
fungisdague: you're not falling back on wget if curl isn't available20:32
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make neutron full job voting (neutron gate only)  https://review.openstack.org/8828920:33
sdaguefungi: oh, one or the other20:33
sdaguesorry, missed that20:33
sdaguehmmmm20:33
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Fix flow control when updating remotes  https://review.openstack.org/10107120:33
mordredsdague: ah. well ... we're also using cloud provider base images right now...20:33
mordredsdague: I think upstream base images may have or not have curl depending on $things20:33
mordredsdague: so this might be one of those areas where we can or should make a better baseline20:34
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fungi(for example, release version, distro, et cetera)20:34
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fungiwhat's with the nova and neutron changes at the head of the gate failing on floating-ip tests in all their unit test jobs? did i miss some excitement?20:35
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: add network_sanity_check  https://review.openstack.org/10197620:37
sdaguewell, that should work regardless20:37
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fungisdague: you missed a fi20:38
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fungipython->bash brainfail20:39
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fungiclarkb: so the jenkins restarts are addressing 1332716 i take it. i caught in scrollback we were upgrading some other plugins too? which?20:40
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clarkbfungi: the build timeout plugin20:41
clarkbfungi: which is the long standing please upgrade this plugin issue20:41
clarkbso doing both together20:41
fungiahh, cool20:41
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fungineed any help? if not, i'll just keep trying to catch up20:42
clarkbnope I think I have it under control20:42
clarkbmostly just managing time and making sure things come up properly20:42
clarkbthanks though20:42
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for nova fixed ip unit test bug 1333410  https://review.openstack.org/10200520:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333410 in nova "Several nova unit tests failing related to IPs" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133341020:48
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dhellmannmordred, fungi : I would like to release a new pbr after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101785/ merges. The other oslo libs are going for 1.0 this cycle, which would mean a 1.0.0.0a1 tag. Will that work with pbr, or should I use 0.9?20:52
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sdaguefungi: :)20:53
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: add network_sanity_check  https://review.openstack.org/10197620:53
sdaguefungi: thank you20:53
fungidhellmann: i can't think of any reason why a 1.0 prerelease would be broken for pbr20:53
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dhellmannfungi: I wonder if pip/setuptools would download and use it if we've only published a wheel. Might be safer to just go with 0.9 (or 0.8.x) to ensure that bug fix makes it into the wild.20:54
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fungisdague: lgtm now--hopefully the logs bear fruit20:55
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fungidhellmann: ohhh... very good point. we're relying on pip's behavior to not install prereleases by default, but setuptools (assuming it seeks out and installs wheels from pypi) may not mimic that behavior, concerning given that pbr is a setup_requires20:57
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dhellmannfungi: yeah, I'm going to play it safe and just use 0.9 so I don't have to think too hard about it20:57
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fungimordred: dstufft: any possible gotchas there? ^20:58
dstufftsetuptools doesn't install wheels20:58
dhellmannwe normally use alphas to avoid breaking things, but in this case we want the bug fix to be released20:59
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fungidhellmann: yeah, that bug needs a release sooner rather than later anyway20:59
dstufftpip won't install it unless you've either opted into wheels (1.4) or pre-releases (1.5)20:59
adrian_ottohey guys. https://review.openstack.org/100538 is not getting notices at all by Zuul. Any guidance?20:59
dhellmannfungi: yeah, I'm kinda tired of people complaining to me on the virtualenvwrapper bug page :-)21:00
dhellmanndstufft: ok, that's sort of what I expected, thanks for verifying21:00
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mordreddhellmann, fungi I think pre-releases of pbr don't make any sense21:01
mordredbecause we cannot tie the version of pbr to anything21:02
nibalizerso i have some questions about how the whole pipeline works21:02
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H904  https://review.openstack.org/10170121:02
mordredI'm happy for us to release a 1.0.021:02
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H803, it's mostly an old flamewar  https://review.openstack.org/10149821:02
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H305 because it's python version specific  https://review.openstack.org/10149921:02
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H402  https://review.openstack.org/10149721:02
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: add hacking preamble  https://review.openstack.org/10201421:02
russellbfyi, release of sqlalchemy today has broken some nova unit tests, at least21:02
nibalizeri.e. i get that the mapping between tests and projects is in zuul's layout.yaml but where are these tests actually stored?21:02
clarkbmordred: I have brazil game up on tv and mexico game on phone21:02
clarkbmordred: it is great21:02
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mordredclarkb: nice21:02
russellbmike bayer is on it and will do another release today to fix it once he narrows it down21:02
clarkbnibalizer: in modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config21:03
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dhellmannmordred: agreed21:03
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sdaguerussellb: ok cool, thanks for heads up21:03
sdagueany idea if it's breaking the integrated jobs?21:03
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russellbsdague: don't know yet, just seen unit test failures so far21:03
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sdagueactually, this might correspond with all the floating ip fails21:04
russellbyes21:04
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russellbit appears to tickle our floating ip db code21:04
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lyxusanteaya, Do you know if there is any way to receive an notification when a etherpad is updated? I just commented on the ThirdPartyTimeLimits, I would love to see when some updates it21:05
mordredrussellb: I'm assuming mike is aware/looking at things?21:05
russellbmordred: yes21:05
mordredawesome!21:05
clarkblyxus: there isn't21:05
russellbjust wanted to let this channel know before the storm of complaints come in :)21:05
clarkbrussellb: thanks!21:05
nibalizerclarkb: ah21:06
lyxusclarkb, thanks21:06
fungirussellb: sdague: mestery: that sqlalchemy issue seemed to impact a neutron change in the gate too (similar error message on similar unit tests)21:06
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mesteryfungi: Link? Running neutron meeitng in #openstack-meeting, FYI.21:06
sdagueyeh, it's wrecking tempest full as well21:07
fungimestery: not sure--sounds like russellb has more details on it21:07
sdagueso we're stopped21:07
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for nova fixed ip unit test bug 1333410  https://review.openstack.org/10200521:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333410 in nova "Several nova unit tests failing related to IPs" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133341021:07
sdaguerussellb: what is the problem version?21:07
russellbsdague: 0.9.5 released today21:07
mesteryrussellb fungi: Thanks for the heads up!21:07
russellbsdague: so going back a version should clear us up short term21:07
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mordredsdague: last week was so good- clearly today needed needed to break something21:07
russellbif we can easily21:07
sdaguerussellb: yeh, I was going to put a block on that version21:07
fungitoday's screeching halt is brought to you by the letters sqlalchemy and the numbers 0.9.521:07
sdaguewe should also be able to pull it from the mirror21:07
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack/requirements: block problematic sqla 0.9.5  https://review.openstack.org/10201521:09
sdaguefungi: you want to pull the mirror? or merge that21:09
boris-42fungi hi21:09
fungisdague: i'll enqueue and promote that one21:09
clarkbso why is this always our fix?21:09
russellbyeah i guess we'll want that regardless21:09
clarkbI get that it is a fx21:09
boris-42fungi any updates about not registered jobs?21:10
clarkbbut shouldn't we prefer to actually correct the problem for future releases initially21:10
russellbclarkb: that's happening too, in parallel21:10
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clarkbrussellb: so my worry in that case is what happened in httplib21:10
clarkbI aws told it was fixed21:10
clarkbbut it wasn't actualyl fixed21:10
clarkbso we do a dance that gets us no where21:10
sdagueclarkb: you mean htpretty?21:10
clarkber ya21:11
sdagueyeh, well, mike bayer doesn't run windows for development, hopefully21:11
clarkbthe more we do this dance the more I am convinced that we should let it be broken until fixed without requirements involvement21:11
fungiboris-42: clarkb is in the process of upgrading the plugin on our jenkins masters over the course of the day today, so it should hopefully clear up afterward21:11
clarkbbecause then we actually know it is fixed and individuals have control21:11
clarkbfungi: boris-42: there may be an additional problem where rally jobs are totally different than everything else and we derped them21:12
clarkbfungi: boris-42: I can swing around and hit them with a hammer to be like the others21:12
boris-42clarkb fungi can I make them non voting?21:12
sdagueclarkb: the implications of that are that 500 devs sit on their hands for as long as it takes to get things upstream21:12
boris-42clarkb fungi rally is blocked for a quite long time..21:12
sdagueit's one thing if it's something that is a known interface change, and we're working towards it. However it's a different thing when random new .Z release stops working.21:13
clarkbsdague: except then the httpretty things happens21:14
clarkband no one actually checks if it is working21:14
clarkband we unpin21:14
clarkband it breaks again21:14
sdagueyeh, I don't know that I have a good answer while we rely on over 100 3rd party libraries maintained at various levels of quality21:15
sdagueci the world would give us signal there21:15
sdaguebut that's a bunch of work that no one has taken on yet21:15
reedclarkb, when you have time, can you please check Marton's comment to your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99481/ ?21:15
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clarkbreed: ya so someone will need to do that21:16
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clarkbreed: I am currently trying to fix all the jenkinses21:17
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reedclarkb, as long as I know what the way forward for the patch is I'm fine21:18
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mordredsdague: I'm going to solve CI the world once I'm done with dib-nodepool21:19
reedclarkb, do I need to file a bug somewhere or ask fungi or ...?21:19
sdaguemordred: cool :)21:19
clarkbreed: it is probably sufficient to have whoever approves that change do it21:19
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clarkbreed: the biggest issue was we didn't know what had to be done and there was no documentation for it21:19
clarkbeven on the drupal page for that flag21:20
openstackgerritBoris Pavlovic proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make gate-rally-install-bare-centos6 non voting  https://review.openstack.org/10201721:20
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reedclarkb, can you then please change your -1 into a 0 and add that as a comment?21:21
reedi'll try to find another reviewer21:21
clarkbreed: why the -1 is still valid21:21
reedI don't understand then21:21
clarkbreed: before that change can merge that key must be added21:22
reedah, I see now21:22
clarkbjust a few more jobs to go before 05 and 06 can be restarted with new plugins21:23
reedfungi, are you back?21:25
reedmrmartin, o/21:25
fungireed: yes, trying to catch back up. you're about to ask me to review a ~600 line change, i'm betting ;)21:25
mrmartinreed, hi21:25
mrmartinI just arrived home, give me 30minutes21:25
reedfungi, give me the numbers for the lotto too while you're on a roll guessing correctly :)21:26
stevebakerhey, what would be the reliability criteria for heat-slow being voting again? http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJmaWVsZHMiOltdLCJzZWFyY2giOiJidWlsZF9uYW1lOlwiY2hlY2stdGVtcGVzdC1kc3ZtLW5ldXRyb24taGVhdC1zbG93XCIgQU5EIG1lc3NhZ2U6XCJGaW5pc2hlZDogRkFJTFVSRVwiIiwidGltZWZyYW1lIjoiNjA0ODAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJvZmZzZXQiOjAsInRpbWUiOnsidXNlcl9pbnRlcnZhbCI6MH0sInN0YW1wIjoxNDAzNTU4Njg2MDE2fQ==21:26
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stevebakerBug #1297560 has flat-lined in http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/21:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1297560 in tempest "*tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow fails with WaitConditionTimeout" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129756021:27
sdaguestevebaker: > 90% success21:28
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sdaguewhich it looks like you guys have21:29
boris-42fungi clarkb  can I get this merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102017/ pls21:29
sdaguehttp://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJmaWVsZHMiOltdLCJzZWFyY2giOiJidWlsZF9uYW1lOlwiY2hlY2stdGVtcGVzdC1kc3ZtLW5ldXRyb24taGVhdC1zbG93XCIgQU5EIChtZXNzYWdlOlwiRmluaXNoZWQ6IEZBSUxVUkVcIiBPUiBtZXNzYWdlOlwiRmluaXNoZWQ6IFNVQ0NFU1NcIikiLCJ0aW1lZnJhbWUiOiI2MDQ4MDAiLCJncmFwaG1vZGUiOiJjb3VudCIsIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZSI6eyJ1c2VyX2ludGVydmFsIjowfSwic3RhbXAiOjE0MDM1NTg4OTcwMzIsIm1vZGUiOiJzY29yZSIsImFuYWx5emVfZmllbGQiOiJidWlsZF9zdGF0dXMifQ==21:29
boris-42fungi clarkb to unblock rally gates21:29
sdaguestevebaker: so I'd say it's fine to propose turning it back to voting21:29
stevebakersdague: \o/21:30
sdaguestevebaker: already a review?21:30
stevebakersdague: I'll whip one up21:30
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fungimrmartin: reed: clarkb: i've added the groups_dev_conf_cron_key hiera key for 99481 (just used a 64-character random alphanumeric password for it) and am reviewing the change now for any other gotchas21:31
boris-42clarkb thanks21:31
reedwhy didn't I notice before that every comment on gerrit triggers jenkins tests again? why?21:31
lyxussdague, If you have a minute today or in the next of couple of days could you provide me your feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101143/21:31
clarkbreed: it doesn't21:31
clarkbreed: it only triggers tests again if the last round of testing was >72 hours ago21:31
fungireed: not every comment. only if the previous test results are at least 3 days stale21:31
clarkbreed: it is a staleness check21:31
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reedah,21:32
reedvery smart :)21:32
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mordredWOAH21:33
mordredok. mexico just blew this kinda wide open21:33
jesusaurusmordred: yep21:33
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update jenkins gearman plugin version  https://review.openstack.org/10201921:33
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clarkbok 06 and 05 have no jobs I am doing the plugin stuff now21:34
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for floating IP error  https://review.openstack.org/10202121:37
clarkb0.0.7 showed up in jenkinsci but failed to install due to http conenction failures21:37
clarkbgoing to do it by hand instead21:37
fungimmm, gate-config-puppet-apply-precise has gotten more brokener and is now trying to install the apache-ssl package on an ubuntu precise slave (to validate the cgit module, which we normally run on centos 6)21:38
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clarkb:/21:39
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fungitaking a dinner, break, but will resume in a little while21:40
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fungialso, have some, commas21:40
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Make gate-rally-install-bare-centos6 non voting  https://review.openstack.org/10201721:42
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clarkb06 is done21:44
clarkb05 is done21:45
clarkbputting 04 and 03 in shutdown mode now21:46
ryanpetrellohey infra folks21:47
ryanpetrellois there somebody who can help me figure out what’s up w/ the ceilometer tests in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94244/ ?21:47
clarkbryanpetrello: I think you are hitting the same thing as boris-4221:47
clarkbryanpetrello: I am currently rolling out part 1 of the fix which is to upgrade jenkins plugins21:47
clarkbso that jenkins registers jobs with slaves properly21:48
ryanpetrelloclarkb: yea, looks that way21:48
ryanpetrellookay, sounds good21:48
ryanpetrellois there a bug I can keep an eye on?21:48
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mrmartinclarkb: can we do something with your -1 on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99481/ ?21:50
clarkbryanpetrello: yes https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/133271621:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332716 in openstack-ci "gearman plugin registers all labels for jobs on node with subset of labels" [Critical,Fix committed]21:50
ryanpetrellothanks clark21:50
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clarkbmrmartin: I can remove it now that fungi has created the key21:50
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mrmartinclarkb: thank you21:51
clarkbmrmartin: it shouldn't matter though21:51
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Expand query for nova floating IP / sqla 0.9.5 bug 1333410  https://review.openstack.org/10202621:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333410 in nova "Several nova unit tests failing related to IPs - sqla 0.9.5" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133341021:52
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Expand query for nova floating IP / sqla 0.9.5 bug 1333410  https://review.openstack.org/10202621:57
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333410 in nova "Several nova unit tests failing related to IPs - sqla 0.9.5" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133341021:57
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow voting again  https://review.openstack.org/10202721:57
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Expand query for nova floating IP / sqla 0.9.5 bug 1333410  https://review.openstack.org/10202622:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333410 in nova "Several nova unit tests failing related to IPs - sqla 0.9.5" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133341022:02
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morganfainbergi kinda want to write a tablet app that mirrors gertty's features....22:10
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morganfainbergwas thinking how nice it would be to have code review in tablet form... just like gertty is awesome for offline22:11
bookwarwhere does elastic recheck gets the data? directly from Jenkins, from Zuul or parsing Gerrit comments?22:11
clarkbbookwar: neither22:11
clarkbbookwar: the jenkins jobs publish logs to logs.openstack.org22:11
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Cleanup approval requirement testing  https://review.openstack.org/10202922:12
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Rename "filter" parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10203022:12
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Drop use of "filter" in test layouts  https://review.openstack.org/10203122:12
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Deprecate '_' in YAML  https://review.openstack.org/10203222:12
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update pipelines to new Zuul syntax  https://review.openstack.org/10203322:12
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clarkbbookwar: then we have a pile of workers that listen for jenkins build event completeled events that grab the logs from logs.openstack.org and pass them through logstash and into elasticsearch22:12
jeblairwhew22:12
clarkbbookwar: this decouples the tests from log parsing which is super important for a couple reasons. The first is security. we don't trust the jenkins slaves so don't want to give them access to our cluster22:12
clarkbbookwar: but also because it means we can stop indexing to do maintenance without affecting the jobs22:13
clarkbbookwar: see http://ci.openstack.org/logstash.html22:13
jeblairclarkb, jhesketh: those changes ^ are, i hope, the completion of the thoughts we were having on pipeline requirements before i went backpacking (plus one extra thing i noticed while i was digging around in there)22:13
clarkbjeblair: cool22:13
clarkbjeblair: I am halfway through plugin upgrades for jenkins servers22:14
clarkbish22:14
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bookwarclarkb: thanks a lot22:14
jeblairclarkb: cool; anything you need help with?22:14
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clarkbjeblair: nope mostly trying to multitask while I wait for jobs to end on servers22:15
clarkbjeblair: so things look good on my end22:15
clarkbthanks though22:15
clarkbsort of failing at multitasking though22:16
clarkbbut trying!22:16
jeblairheh :)  back to my task backlog then22:16
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H904  https://review.openstack.org/10170122:18
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H803, it's mostly an old flamewar  https://review.openstack.org/10149822:18
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: add hacking preamble  https://review.openstack.org/10201422:18
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H305 because it's python version specific  https://review.openstack.org/10149922:18
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: remove H402  https://review.openstack.org/10149722:18
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clarkbjeblair: also sqlalchemy thing broke nova22:20
clarkbjeblair: but folks are working on that22:21
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jeblairclarkb: oh, maybe michael bayer is working on fixing it!22:22
sdaguejeblair: yes, he is22:22
jeblairsdague: neat :)  it's fun being your own downstream.22:22
sdaguethough 102015 failed on neutron tests in gate (passed in check, it's a neutron race)22:22
sdaguejeblair: it would be good to force merge that, no one can pass tempest full until it's in22:23
sdaguenova will remained blocked because of their unit tests22:23
sdaguebut at least the rest can manage22:23
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jeblairsdague: since it can merge, how about a reverify/promote?22:29
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sdaguethat's a possibility. It costs us another hr of development blockage22:30
morganfainbergsdague: updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101611/ as discussed22:30
sdaguein situations like this, where it's very clear, and we're taking manual measures anyway, it seems like a ninja merge is in order22:30
morganfainbergsdague: set keystone/swift to both be disabled via stackrc will remove the override for keystone out when we're ready to default it to on22:31
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sdagueas everything in check right now, plus everything that shows up in the next hr, will need to be rechecked22:31
jeblairsdague: i don't agree with the phrase "development blockage".  and we generally reserve that for changes that physically can't merge.22:32
jeblairsdague: yep, that's true.  and it's not our responsibility to fix that, we didn't break it.22:32
sdaguebut we could make it better22:32
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add support for disk-image-builder in nodepool  https://review.openstack.org/8847922:33
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add additional node types to dib elements  https://review.openstack.org/9056522:33
sdagueanyway, I need to go make dinner, so I don't need to merge code today anyway :) your call. Have a good evening.22:34
jeblairsdague: you too :)22:35
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jogoso can nothing merge right now22:43
jeblairjogo: that's what sdague said.  know what bug to recheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102015/ with?22:44
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jogojeblair: looking22:46
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jogojeblair: it looks like another ssh error22:47
jogowhich could be a half dozen things22:47
clarkbdoing jenkins04 now22:48
openstackgerritpritesh proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Add hacking check for vim configuration in source files  https://review.openstack.org/10196922:48
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jogoperhaps mtreinish may know22:49
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mtreinishjogo, jeblair: I think it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/132365822:51
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1323658 in nova "Nova resize/restart results in guest ending up in inconsistent state" [Undecided,New]22:51
clarkband now jenkins0322:51
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mtreinishat least that's the number I had in my browser history for neutron with EOFerror22:52
jogohmm but the failed test doesn't have any resize/restart that I know of22:53
clarkband now 01 and 02 are going into shutdown mode22:54
jogomtreinish: ^22:54
clarkband now we wait more22:54
clarkbjeblair: fungi: what do yo uthink about doing jenkins.o.o now? would you like to see more time on the numbered masters before doing that one?22:55
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jeblairclarkb: i think it's probably fine22:55
jeblairjogo, mtreinish: feel free to reverify that change if you want to get things moving22:56
clarkbfungi: if you agree I will go ahead and do jenkins.o.o while we wait on 01 and 0222:56
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clarkbwell I am going to be impatient and do jenkins.o.o as jeblair is cool with it22:59
jheskethMorning22:59
jogojeblair: done22:59
clarkbjhesketh: o/22:59
mattoliverauMorning all23:00
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clarkbjenkins.o.o is done23:05
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anteayamorning mattoliverau and jhesketh23:09
anteayaclarkb: woooo23:09
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harlowjalifeless when u get some free time, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98946/ would be much appreciated ;)23:13
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lifelessharlowja: ack, won't be for a bit sorry23:29
harlowjalifeless np23:29
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morganfainbergclarkb: i'll circle back with folks tomorrow on the middleware repo, hopefully it'll be easy to get pushed through23:50
anteayamorganfainberg: you have my +1 yeah?23:50
clarkbmorganfainberg: ok it is on my list of things to look at again23:50
clarkbbut I am about to do jenkins01 and jenkins02 plugin upgrade23:50
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morganfainbergclarkb: yeah i figured you're working on the jenkins stuff, so it was a heads up i'll bug ya tomorrow in case (no worries if you're busy today/night)23:52
morganfainberganteaya: minor changes, sdague asked the tempest integrated and stable runs were added pre-emptively23:52
morganfainberganteaya: otherwise it's the same. :)23:52
clarkb01 just restarted23:52
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anteayamorganfainberg: is there a new patchset I should look at?23:52
morganfainbergjenkins plugin upgrade >>> new repo23:53
morganfainberganteaya: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101406/23:53
morganfainberganteaya:  if you would like to23:53
anteayasure23:53
morganfainberganteaya: always happy to have your imput on this stuff! :)23:53
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jeblairbtw, did you have a party when 100,000 rolled over?  i was out at the time...23:54
morganfainbergjeblair: there was an email that went out... dunno if there was a party.23:54
morganfainbergjeblair: (if there was a party i missed it, and i wanted cake too!)23:54
morganfainberg:)23:55
clarkb01 is done23:55
clarkbnow 0223:55
jeblairmorganfainberg: i will suggest to the foundation folks that they put 100,000 candles on the cake at the openstack birthday party at oscon this year23:55
morganfainbergjeblair: omg, i'm sad, i wont be at the oscon birthday party :(23:56
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jeblairmorganfainberg: that just means you won't asphyxiate ;)23:57
morganfainbergjeblair: ++23:57
cyeohhrm can anyone tell me what an "UNSTABLE" result from jenkins running nova-docs even means?23:57
clarkbcyeoh: we ran out of disk on the doc volume23:58
morganfainbergcyeoh: that the job itself had iss.. ^^ that23:58
clarkbcyeoh: builds reported unstable when copies of new docs failed23:58
clarkbshould be better now thanks to SergeyLukjanov23:58
nibalizerwhats the full path of where the code being tested will be checked out?23:58
nibalizeris it /opt/<projectname.23:58
nibalizer?23:58
clarkbnibalizer: it depends23:58
cyeohclarkb, morganfainberg: ah, thanks!23:59
clarkbnibalizer: tempest/devstack testing uses /opt/stack iirc23:59
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clarkbnibalizer: but unittests and things use the jenkins workspace directly. /home/jenkins/workspace/jobname23:59

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