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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1330763 in nova "PostgrestSQLOpportunisticFixture fails with no attribute named _details" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1330763 | 00:00 |
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| ianw | sdague: in the cleanup there's a lot of "mv $WORKSPACE/foo $BASE/logs/foo". since db80d838 (Keep logs in $BASE instead of $WORKSPACE) this doesn't seem relevant. do they remain for abstraction reasons, or has it just not been cleaned up? | 00:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Cleanup of grenade and old/new log copy https://review.openstack.org/99852 | 00:06 |
| jogo | clarkb: ahh I figured it out | 00:08 |
| jogo | clarkb: re: why nodepool's periodic cleanup isn't working | 00:08 |
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| jogo | clarkb: apscheduler allows only one copy of a periodic task to be running at a time | 00:09 |
| jogo | clarkb: and periodicCleanup waits tries to delete each stuck node and will wait until its cleaned | 00:10 |
| jogo | jeblair: ^ | 00:10 |
| jeblair | jogo: it's supposed to start a thread for each one it needs to delete | 00:11 |
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| jogo | jeblair: but there is a waitForServerDeletion | 00:12 |
| jeblair | jogo: i have to run now, but i think that's inside of the thread | 00:13 |
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| jogo | jeblair: hmm if that is the case there may be a leak somewhere | 00:16 |
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| harlowja | hi guys, qq, is openstackgerrit acting odd, i noticed its in some rooms, but not in at least one of my other rooms? | 01:17 |
| SpamapS | Can elastic-recheck queries be written that span multiple lines? | 01:17 |
| harlowja | oh, nm, my fault | 01:17 |
| jogo | SpamapS: no, each line is currently treated as a seperate document in ES | 01:18 |
| SpamapS | jogo: http://logs.openstack.org/09/96009/7/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/7fb20c8/logs/screen-c-vol.txt.gz ... look for c895c621-772d-4064-af0b-319c0c1b5370 .. any ideas how to detect that failure, which appears to be that the lock is released before lvremove returns | 01:18 |
| jogo | SpamapS: a stacktrace is considered one line | 01:19 |
| jogo | so that may help | 01:19 |
| jogo | jeblair: yeah your right, but based on the nodepool logs the cleanup task doesn't appear to run, at the very least the logs don't show it being run | 01:20 |
| SpamapS | jogo: the evidence is the lock removal preceding the lvremove failure | 01:23 |
| SpamapS | But maybe the line number could work | 01:23 |
| SpamapS | until it changes. :-P | 01:23 |
| jogo | SpamapS: yeah we have no good way to handle that case currently | 01:26 |
| SpamapS | jogo: ok thanks. | 01:26 |
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| SpamapS | jogo: if you think of a way to do it.. I filed the bug in cinder https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1330776 | 01:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1330776 in cinder "lock may be released before lvremove command returns" [Undecided,New] | 01:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Put a default section header above the TTL https://review.openstack.org/100328 | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: StoryBoard module bounces apache on update https://review.openstack.org/100329 | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Add Storyboard puppet module https://review.openstack.org/100321 | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Added Authorization Header flag to storyboard module https://review.openstack.org/100322 | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard run over ssl https://review.openstack.org/100323 | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard projects from projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/100324 | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard superusers from yaml file https://review.openstack.org/100325 | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Storyboard token expiration increased https://review.openstack.org/100326 | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard idempotent https://review.openstack.org/100327 | 01:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Adding Rakefile https://review.openstack.org/100370 | 01:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Put a default section header above the TTL https://review.openstack.org/100328 | 01:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Added Authorization Header flag to storyboard module https://review.openstack.org/100322 | 01:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard run over ssl https://review.openstack.org/100323 | 01:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard projects from projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/100324 | 01:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard superusers from yaml file https://review.openstack.org/100325 | 01:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Storyboard token expiration increased https://review.openstack.org/100326 | 01:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard idempotent https://review.openstack.org/100327 | 01:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix small grammatical errors https://review.openstack.org/100393 | 02:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for ceilometer ValueError I/O bug 1329692 https://review.openstack.org/100405 | 02:32 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1329692 in ceilometer "string io errors in unit test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1329692 | 02:32 |
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| mordred | nibalizer wins the most recent patch-bomb-infra award | 03:02 |
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| nibalizer | wooooo | 03:09 |
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| mikal | Does "reverify bug XXX" still work? | 03:35 |
| mikal | Ahhh, it does. Good | 03:36 |
| mikal | Just saw another example of 1330763 | 03:36 |
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| jogo | lifeless: ping | 03:46 |
| jogo | lifeless: so I think you are looking at the recent gate issues the wrong way | 03:47 |
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| lifeless | jogo: hi! | 03:51 |
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| jogo | lifeless: so in short I think we have two related issues | 03:53 |
| jogo | in the past the only thing we tried to optimize for was gate stability, we could assume we could always get more cloud | 03:53 |
| jogo | but now we are almost always hitting the quota limits | 03:54 |
| jogo | so we need to optimize for constrained compute resources as well | 03:54 |
| lifeless | jogo: I alluded to this actually | 03:54 |
| lifeless | jogo: every gate reset is a resource hog, and every recheck is a resource hog. | 03:55 |
| lifeless | jogo: arguably the biggest resource hog is speculatively testing patches that haven't been reviewed. | 03:55 |
| jogo | right | 03:55 |
| jogo | so before we change anything, we should get better numbers | 03:55 |
| lifeless | jogo: so I agree that we have both those issues | 03:56 |
| jogo | we have done a significant amount of work on getting numbers to track job failure rates etc. | 03:56 |
| lifeless | jogo: now, how am I looking at it wrong ? | 03:56 |
| jogo | we need to do the same for gate throughput | 03:56 |
| jogo | lifeless: I think the quota limits is a more significant factor at this point | 03:56 |
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| jogo | so maybe not looking at it wrong per se. | 03:57 |
| jogo | I think one of the first steps is to collect data on some of this. how much of a resource hog are gate resets? rechecks? auto rechecks? etc | 03:58 |
| lifeless | More significant than races in the gate? e.g. you're saying if we had 4x the total gate resources we wouldn't have a problem ? | 03:58 |
| lifeless | jogo: +1 on more data to model the problem | 03:58 |
| lifeless | jogo: cause, I don't believe more resources will fix anything | 03:58 |
| jogo | lifeless: well sort of. if we had 4x the quota we would still have the occasional gate siezeup, but everything would be moving faster in general | 03:59 |
| lifeless | jogo: there's an easy way to test that. Turn off automatic checks entirely, leave check-before-gate in place and gate jobs only | 03:59 |
| lifeless | easy in that its a fairly small config change. | 04:00 |
| jogo | lifeless: actually I was thinking the same thing | 04:00 |
| jogo | so there may be some data to support that, that should be available today. | 04:00 |
| jogo | we can look at gerrit data to see how many auto rechecks are 'wasted' | 04:00 |
| lifeless | jogo: also regular check on upload | 04:01 |
| lifeless | jogo: and recheck xxx | 04:01 |
| lifeless | jogo: none of those at all are needed for gate health and velocity. | 04:01 |
| mikal | http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOiBcIlVuaWNvZGVEZWNvZGVFcnJvclwiIiwiZmllbGRzIjpbXSwib2Zmc2V0IjowLCJ0aW1lZnJhbWUiOiI2MDQ4MDAiLCJncmFwaG1vZGUiOiJjb3VudCIsInRpbWUiOnsidXNlcl9pbnRlcnZhbCI6MH0sInN0YW1wIjoxNDAwNDI3ODM3NzE0LCJtb2RlIjoiIiwiYW5hbHl6ZV9maWVsZCI6IiJ9 | 04:02 |
| jogo | lifeless: so lets get some numbers on those | 04:02 |
| mikal | ^-- scary... I'm not sure where to start to find the cause of that | 04:02 |
| jogo | mikal: lol unicode | 04:03 |
| mikal | jogo: Yeah, the traceback doesn't really help identify where is coming from either | 04:03 |
| jogo | mikal: you have a log file with what you are looking for? | 04:03 |
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| mikal | jogo: I don't follow you? | 04:04 |
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| jogo | mikal: exactly, I don't follow you ^_^ | 04:06 |
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| jogo | what are you looking for? | 04:06 |
| mikal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1320655 | 04:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1320655 in nova "UnicodeDecodeError in the nova gate logs" [Low,Confirmed] | 04:06 |
| mikal | We're logging unicode decode stack traces in gate logs | 04:06 |
| mikal | But the stack trace doesn't really help work out from ehre | 04:07 |
| mikal | Doesn't appear to happen in unit test runs | 04:08 |
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| jogo | mikal: they all have Logged from file http.py, line 167 | 04:10 |
| jogo | there is no http.py in nova | 04:10 |
| jogo | me things glanceclient | 04:11 |
| mikal | Tempest also has a http.py | 04:12 |
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| jogo | but this is n-cpu | 04:12 |
| mikal | Yeah, ok | 04:13 |
| mikal | Its not tempest anyways, that file isn't that long | 04:13 |
| mikal | LOG.debug('\n'.join([strutils.safe_encode(x) for x in dump])) | 04:14 |
| jogo | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-glanceclient/tree/glanceclient/common/http.py#n167 | 04:14 |
| jogo | yup | 04:14 |
| mikal | Oh, safe_encode is throwing an exception? | 04:15 |
| jogo | perhaps | 04:15 |
| jogo | not sure | 04:15 |
| * mikal fires off a test | 04:16 | |
| mikal | https://review.openstack.org/100412 is with that line commented out | 04:16 |
| jogo | good idea | 04:18 |
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| jogo | I am fairly sure that line is the issue | 04:20 |
| jogo | not sure why though | 04:20 |
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| mikal | I'm not sure why they want to log that | 04:22 |
| mikal | I'm very tempted to comment it out for reals | 04:22 |
| lifeless | mikal: with the delete button ? | 04:23 |
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| mikal | Yah, something like that | 04:24 |
| mikal | Just checking its the thing first | 04:24 |
| mikal | jogo: does a reverify do a reverify now? | 04:24 |
| mikal | jogo: it seems to be rechecking, not reverifying? | 04:24 |
| jogo | mikal: for a nova patch? just re +w it | 04:24 |
| mikal | Hmmm, ok | 04:25 |
| jogo | but 'recheck' should do it tii | 04:25 |
| lifeless | mikal: thats the check-before-gate thing, I believe | 04:25 |
| jogo | too | 04:25 |
| jogo | lifeless: thats what I believe too | 04:25 |
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| jogo | lifeless: so yeah I think we need to collect some data on where the check queue work comes from | 04:46 |
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| jogo | not sure how to slice it though | 04:58 |
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| jogo | jhesketh: ping | 05:03 |
| jogo | got a zuul question | 05:03 |
| jhesketh | jogo: pong | 05:03 |
| jhesketh | suer | 05:03 |
| jhesketh | *sure | 05:03 |
| jogo | jhesketh: where is the logic that says rerun check on a comment | 05:04 |
| jhesketh | as in the configuration? | 05:04 |
| jogo | and the code | 05:04 |
| jogo | and/or | 05:04 |
| jhesketh | the configuration is in layout.yaml | 05:04 |
| jhesketh | each trigger is different | 05:04 |
| jhesketh | the gerrit triggers on comments | 05:04 |
| jhesketh | and can have comment filters | 05:05 |
| jhesketh | so in the code it's zuul/trigger/gerrit | 05:05 |
| jhesketh | .py | 05:05 |
| jhesketh | the scheduler.py builds an EventFilter object from the configuration | 05:06 |
| jhesketh | then in models.py:1037 there is EventFilter().matches | 05:06 |
| jogo | jhesketh: is it possible to say that we don't want to rerun the check queue on negative votes? | 05:06 |
| jhesketh | modes.py:1066 is where the comment regex is performed | 05:07 |
| jogo | heh zuul docs say require-approval is deprecated | 05:08 |
| jogo | but I see it all over our config file | 05:08 |
| jhesketh | yeah | 05:09 |
| jhesketh | I'm just looking to see if we can do a negative against vote | 05:09 |
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| jhesketh | s | 05:09 |
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| jogo | jhesketh: I don't see a modes.py file | 05:10 |
| jhesketh | sorry, typo, model.py | 05:11 |
| jhesketh | so I think the answer is no | 05:11 |
| jogo | jhesketh: ahh a comment is a comment is a comment | 05:11 |
| jogo | jhesketh: can that be changed? | 05:11 |
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| jhesketh | jogo: at the moment require-approval and requires are both OR'd filters | 05:14 |
| jhesketh | requiring that nobody has given it a negative vote means we need to say AND not negative | 05:15 |
| jhesketh | so it's a bit of rework | 05:15 |
| jogo | jhesketh: I was thinking it would be a new filter | 05:15 |
| jogo | non_negative_comment or something | 05:16 |
| jogo | as running recheck on a negative comment seems strange | 05:16 |
| jhesketh | jogo: so the recheck is for when Jenkins vote is outdated | 05:18 |
| jhesketh | maybe we just need to change the trigger for that to only happen if Jenkins is outdated and it had originally voted +1 | 05:18 |
| jhesketh | (so it won't try again on -1's) | 05:18 |
| jogo | jhesketh: so that is a seperate case, but I like it | 05:19 |
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| jhesketh | only mildly separate, it should cover your case pretty well | 05:20 |
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| lifeless | jhesketh: no, it won't | 05:20 |
| lifeless | jhesketh: what jogo means is this: | 05:20 |
| jogo | jhesketh: my case is, patch passes jobs, but I vote -1 | 05:20 |
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| jogo | me not jenkins | 05:21 |
| lifeless | jhesketh: review is sitting open, jenkins is +1, reviewer pans it. No point rechecking at that point, since a human is saying 'no'. | 05:21 |
| lifeless | or wtf, or whatevs | 05:21 |
| jhesketh | jogo, lifeless: ah right, I see | 05:22 |
| jhesketh | well that'll require some more work | 05:22 |
| jhesketh | however there is an argument to be made if it should rerun or not | 05:22 |
| jhesketh | as a reviewer's -1 doesn't always mean it won't be merged | 05:23 |
| jhesketh | or that cores are still interested in it | 05:23 |
| jhesketh | in which case re-running tests is still valuable | 05:23 |
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| jogo | jhesketh: true, but but it needs at least another + vote before it can be merged | 05:23 |
| jogo | jhesketh: this is optimizing for a rare case IMHO | 05:23 |
| jogo | but unfortunitly my gerrit foo isn't strong enough to figure out how rare | 05:24 |
| jogo | jhesketh: so this is all coming from the fact that we are hitting the quota limits on a regular basis. | 05:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Don't auto-recheck when last check was false https://review.openstack.org/100417 | 05:24 |
| jogo | jhesketh: nooo I was writting that patch | 05:24 |
| * jhesketh wins | 05:25 | |
| * jogo sulks | 05:25 | |
| jogo | well my patch was wrong | 05:25 |
| jhesketh | yeah I tend to agree, but I'd like to get jeblair's input before implementing such a feature in zuul | 05:25 |
| jogo | jhesketh: works for me | 05:26 |
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| jogo | do we have recheck enabled for non integrated jobs? | 05:29 |
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| jhesketh | jogo: any jobs in the check queue will have it | 05:31 |
| jogo | jhesketh: looks like we do, anyway to change that as well | 05:31 |
| trinaths | sweston: ping | 05:31 |
| jogo | jhesketh: as we only care about the check freshness for things that will be part of the integrated gate right? | 05:31 |
| jogo | or care about a lot more | 05:31 |
| sweston | trinaths: pong | 05:31 |
| jhesketh | jogo: I guess that's true.. they are the things that'll hold up the gate | 05:32 |
| jhesketh | however having a fresh check is a good idea | 05:32 |
| sweston | trinaths: remind me what I was helping you with | 05:32 |
| jogo | jhesketh: a good idea sure, but this all comes down to we keep hitting our resource limits | 05:32 |
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| sweston | trinaths: long day :-) | 05:32 |
| jogo | so we have to now optimize to get the most bang for our buck | 05:32 |
| trinaths | sweston: yes. I need help on CI performance improvement | 05:32 |
| trinaths | sweston: :-) | 05:33 |
| sweston | trinaths: ok, how long are your runs taking now? | 05:33 |
| trinaths | sweston: free now ..? | 05:33 |
| sweston | trinaths: yes, free now | 05:33 |
| trinaths | sweston: it take around 1 hr average for each build. | 05:33 |
| jogo | jhesketh: anyway I am just poking around to get a sense of things. and it looks like there is plenty of room for tweaking | 05:34 |
| jogo | if we so choose | 05:34 |
| mikal | jogo: my patch did not remove the unicodedecode error | 05:34 |
| mikal | Mutter | 05:34 |
| jhesketh | sure | 05:34 |
| sweston | trinaths: do you know what a pypi mirror is? | 05:34 |
| trinaths | sweston: setting up work space takes around 25 minutes | 05:34 |
| sweston | trinaths: wow | 05:34 |
| trinaths | sweston: no. | 05:34 |
| sweston | trinaths: how fast is your internet? | 05:35 |
| sweston | trinaths: a pypi mirror will cache all of the packages needed to set up your jenkins slave, at least the python packages | 05:36 |
| sweston | trinaths: you might benefit also from a ubuntu mirror | 05:36 |
| trinaths | sweston: its our corp network. | 05:36 |
| trinaths | sweston: pypi mirror needs some other configuration. how can I do that. | 05:37 |
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| sweston | trinaths: let me dig around for some directions that look good | 05:37 |
| trinaths | sweston: okay. | 05:38 |
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| sweston | trinaths: this one looks pretty good. https://github.com/mviera/pypi-mirror | 05:43 |
| jogo | mikal: hrm, I wonder what other http.py it could be | 05:44 |
| jogo | mikal: link? | 05:44 |
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| sweston | trinaths: would you like to give it a shot? I need about 4 hours of sleep, then can meet you back here | 05:45 |
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| trinaths | sweston: okay. i need to install this in my jenkins slave. | 05:46 |
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| trinaths | sweston: sure. sleep is the first priority in life for a hard worker. | 05:46 |
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| trinaths | sweston: kindly ping me when you are free | 05:46 |
| sweston | trinaths: yes, I will do so. ;-) | 05:47 |
| jogo | mikal: anyway its getting late here o/ | 05:47 |
| trinaths | sweston: thanks for help. good night | 05:47 |
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| jogo | mikal: strange it loooks like that line is still being used | 05:48 |
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| jogo | mikal: wrong line | 05:51 |
| jogo | LOG.debug('\n'.join([strutils.safe_encode(x) for x in dump | 05:51 |
| jogo | line 167 | 05:51 |
| jogo | not 153 | 05:51 |
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| jogo | anyway o/ | 05:51 |
| mikal | Oh wait | 05:52 |
| mikal | Would it be because tempest is usign the pypi glaneclient for that test? | 05:52 |
| sweston | trinaths: anytime, see you in a bit | 05:52 |
| trinaths | sweston: okay | 05:53 |
| jogo | mikal: see above, your patch is wrong ;) | 05:53 |
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| mikal | jogo: go to bed | 05:55 |
| mikal | I will flail without you | 05:55 |
| trinaths | sweston: one doubt, if you are around, when I install pypi-mirrors as per the link, do I need to configure devstack(-gate) ? | 05:55 |
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| lukego | Howdy. I’m recovering my CI from problems over the weekend, possibly related to the setuptools issue. anyone know why I might be seeing this? | 05:58 |
| lukego | ci@egg:/opt/stack/tempest$ python -m subunit.run discover -t . --list | 05:58 |
| lukego | ValueError: Duplicate test id detected: tempest.api.network.test_networks.BulkNetworkOpsTestJSON.test_bulk_create_delete_network[gate,smoke] | 05:58 |
| sweston | trinaths: thinking | 05:58 |
| sweston | trinaths: it should be on a separate vm | 05:59 |
| trinaths | sweston: okay, can it be with the jenkins master | 05:59 |
| trinaths | sweston: I have a master and 3 slave nodes | 06:00 |
| sweston | trinaths: theoretically that should work, looks like the port will be on port 9000 | 06:01 |
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| sweston | trinaths: might need to inject something into the slave nodes, let me check on that | 06:02 |
| trinaths | sweston: okay let me try on jenkins master when runs zuul, gearman, jenkins to host this mirror. | 06:03 |
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| trinaths | sweston: will these mirrors be helpful. http://www.pypi-mirrors.org/ | 06:06 |
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| sweston | trinaths: probably better to have the mirror on your network | 06:08 |
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| sweston | trinaths: then you only have to pull everything down once | 06:08 |
| trinaths | sweston: okay. can you be some what clear on " then you only have to pull everything down once" | 06:09 |
| sweston | trinaths: so you won't need to keep downloading the same packages repeatedly | 06:10 |
| trinaths | sweston: will the git package suggested before does the package download on a periodic manner and preserve a local copy. | 06:10 |
| trinaths | sweston: okay | 06:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Fix whitespace that occurs after comma https://review.openstack.org/90484 | 06:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark McLoughlin proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add signature for flavors marker not found bug https://review.openstack.org/100432 | 06:36 |
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| renlt | Hi infra team | 06:48 |
| renlt | here is a question about delete branch for stackforge project | 06:48 |
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| renlt | git push --force gerrit :stable/icehouse | 06:49 |
| renlt | remote: Branch refs/heads/stable/icehouse: | 06:49 |
| renlt | remote: You need 'Push' rights with the 'Force Push' | 06:49 |
| renlt | remote: flag set to delete references. | 06:49 |
| renlt | remote: User: gpanda | 06:49 |
| renlt | remote: Please read the documentation and contact an administrator | 06:49 |
| renlt | remote: if you feel the configuration is incorrect | 06:49 |
| renlt | remote: Processing changes: refs: 1, done | 06:49 |
| renlt | To ssh://gpanda@review.openstack.org:29418/stackforge/powervc-driver.git | 06:49 |
| renlt | ! [remote rejected] stable/icehouse (cannot delete references) | 06:49 |
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| renlt | error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://gpanda@review.openstack.org:29418/stackforge/powervc-driver.git | 06:49 |
| renlt | any one has idea with this, do I need set acl for this force push rights? thanks in advance. | 06:50 |
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| mattoliverau | renlt: looks like a missing acl to me, and infact I think only gerrit administators can delete branches.. although I could be wrong. You may need to either come back here when some infra-root's are available who have to rights to do so, or I've seen in a quick search some people raise a infra bug (openstack-ci) for that. E.g: http://is.gd/jaE6g9 | 07:05 |
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| navneet1 | Hi..anybody canhelp regarding 3rd party ci set up | 07:10 |
| navneet1 | ? | 07:10 |
| navneet1 | our gerrit keys are still not registered...though the bug raised was closed | 07:11 |
| renlt | mattoliverau: thanks, here is my acl config for our project, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97726/2/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls/stackforge/powervc-driver.config | 07:13 |
| renlt | mattoliverau: there is a abandon right | 07:14 |
| mattoliverau | Hey navneet1, you might have to wait until an infra-root is awake and available, I can't get on the boxes to check, but do you have the bug id or url in question so I can take a look? | 07:15 |
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| mattoliverau | renlt: yeah, but I think the abandon allows cores to control abandoned changes in gerrit | 07:15 |
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| renlt | mattoliverau: maybe, thanks for the bug sample. | 07:19 |
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| mattoliverau | renlt: no problem, sorry I can't be of more help. You can do the 2 pronged attack. Post a bug and then talk to someone in here during US hours.. Then you can't fail :) And I'll tell you what, I'll ask someone in my morning because that's usually the end of the US day. And I can let you know tomorrow if you want. | 07:22 |
| navneet1 | mattoliverau: hi mattoliverau...this is the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1284808 | 07:22 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1284808 in openstack-ci "Request for NetAPP CI service account" [Medium,Fix released] | 07:22 |
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| navneet1 | mattoliverau: it says fixed released but we get error when we do connectivity tests | 07:23 |
| boris-42 | jhesketh hi there | 07:24 |
| navneet1 | mattoliverau: also I just tried searching launchpad with the email and it says no account registered....not sure if went to the right place | 07:24 |
| jhesketh | boris-42: howdy | 07:25 |
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| mattoliverau | navneet1: It needs to be placed on the gerrit server, So you can access the gerrit event stream. I was hoping that the users were managed via the config repo, like most other things, but isn't. Sorry. but you've updated the bug, so hopefully an infra-root can help you when they are awake. Sorry I can't help further. | 07:30 |
| boris-42 | jhesketh could you pls help with patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100052/ I am not sure that I did it properly | 07:31 |
| boris-42 | jhesketh I need to get publish on pushing tags to pypi new releases=) | 07:31 |
| boris-42 | jhesketh I forgot to do this in first patch =( | 07:31 |
| navneet1 | mattoliverau: can I see if the id is on gerrit server? | 07:32 |
| navneet1 | any link/website? | 07:32 |
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| navneet1 | mattoliverau: Also do you know ppl in infra-rrot whom I can ping for the same? | 07:33 |
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| mattoliverau | navneet1: not that I am aware of (though I could be wrong), it isn't a user or group in gerrit, but a system user how can SSH in as access to event stream. | 07:36 |
| renlt | mattoliverau:you are so kind! I just opened a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1330854 and maybe Jeremy Stanley is the right person. | 07:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1330854 in openstack-ci "Please help to delete stack/icehouse branch of stackforge/powervc-driver" [Undecided,New] | 07:37 |
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| mattoliverau | navneet1: There are quite a few, but clarkb would be your best bet as he is the one who worked on you the bug you have. | 07:37 |
| mattoliverau | renlt: Thanks, and nice, I'll follow up on it when I wake up :) | 07:38 |
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| mattoliverau | navneet1: Also, cause I put him in the message, he'll read it during scroll back when he wakes up and hopefully ping you :) | 07:40 |
| renlt | mattoliverau: appreciate your help! | 07:41 |
| mattoliverau | navneet1: but just to be sure.. clarkb: when you wake up could you please help navneet1 with his 3rd party gerrit account, you worked on it in http://is.gd/yvybff and he still can't log in. | 07:42 |
| mattoliverau | renlt: any time. | 07:42 |
| mattoliverau | On that note I need to go start making dinner before the wife gets home. Night all. | 07:42 |
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| navneet1 | mattoliverau: Thanks! | 07:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark McLoughlin proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for cinder lvmremove failure https://review.openstack.org/100447 | 08:22 |
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| yolanda | hi, having failure on one job, are there some problems with these tests? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99924/ | 08:28 |
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| yolanda | hi, having failure on one job, are there some problems with these tests? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99924/ | 08:28 |
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| norman | Hi all, when I tried to send review by git review, it complains that 'ICLA contributor agreement requires current contact information', and then I go to the https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact to save the info, it said 'Server error, cannot save the information' | 08:59 |
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| norman | anyone can help this? | 09:00 |
| rcarrillocruz | i think that can only be checked by infra core | 09:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | jhesketh: hi there sir, are you a core ^ ? | 09:09 |
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| lifeless | rcarrillocruz: SergeyLukjanov has ops on the boxen I believe | 09:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | ah yes, thx | 09:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | SergeyLukjanov: ^ , norman has problems to update contact details in Gerrit, i think we need infra ops powerz | 09:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Validate Project and Project Groups names https://review.openstack.org/98728 | 09:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Added tests for Project Groups API https://review.openstack.org/98745 | 09:20 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | rcarrillocruz, lifeless, norman, hey folks, I don't actually know the reason for such behavior of contact details update :( | 09:44 |
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| pleia2 | anteaya: not around much this week, conferencing in Croatia | 09:56 |
| pleia2 | overview-based keynote tomorrow \o/ | 09:57 |
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| e0ne | hi all! we have some python scripts here: https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/tree/master/modules/openstack_project/files/nodepool/scripts. Do we have any tests for it? I didn't found anything | 11:26 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | e0ne, hey, I think we have no tests for them except thousands of jobs running using them every day | 11:37 |
| e0ne | :) | 11:37 |
| e0ne | thanks | 11:37 |
| e0ne | i want to change one of them and interesting in covering it by unit tests if needed | 11:38 |
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| mrmartin | re | 11:41 |
| mrmartin | guys, is everything allright with check jobs? http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 11:41 |
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| sdague | SergeyLukjanov: permissions in gerrit question | 12:09 |
| sdague | Apparently in nova I can't rebase or WIP patches | 12:09 |
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| sdague | actually, anywhere | 12:10 |
| sdague | I thought I could do that? | 12:10 |
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| sjm42 | https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/new-agreement | 12:15 |
| sjm42 | ^ can someone fix this pls? :) | 12:15 |
| sjm42 | I have been getting server error for several weeks now | 12:15 |
| sjm42 | "Cannot store contact information" | 12:16 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | e0ne, please, note that the you should change this scripts in backward compatible way, because slave images rebuild daily | 12:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sdague, hey | 12:23 |
| e0ne | SergeyLukjanov sure, i will | 12:23 |
| sdague | ok, the WIP thing I figured out, I was just not caffinated enough | 12:23 |
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| sdague | SergeyLukjanov: but I really thought I could Rebase changes | 12:24 |
| sdague | via the web UI | 12:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sdague, nope, it's only for the CR author IMP | 12:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | IMO* | 12:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sdague, I don't remember that we had the ability to rebase for non-authors | 12:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sdague, oh, you could just cherry-pick to master | 12:26 |
| sdague | ok | 12:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | using the cherry-pick button, it'll upload the new patch set to the same change request | 12:27 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, do we have any conditions for personal 3rd party testing accounts? | 12:32 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, that will vote only for sandbox | 12:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, re http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-June/001310.html | 12:33 |
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| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: no, we don't have any conditions against this type of account | 13:01 |
| anteaya | why this person only wants to vote against the sandbox is beyond my ability to comprehend, but we don't have any provisions against it | 13:02 |
| anteaya | pleia2: I hope things are going well in Croatia | 13:03 |
| anteaya | pleia2: happy keynoting | 13:03 |
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| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: do you know how to free up nodepool nodes? | 13:16 |
| anteaya | we have a lot of them in the delete state again | 13:16 |
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| zzelle | Hi everyone ! | 13:18 |
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| zzelle | It seems there is a trouble with ICLA signing in gerrit | 13:18 |
| anteaya | hi zzelle | 13:18 |
| anteaya | zzelle: please expand | 13:18 |
| anteaya | zzelle: what trouble are you seeing? | 13:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, AFAIK folks have some scripts for doing it, but I'm not aware about how to di it | 13:19 |
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| zzelle | anteaya: my college created its gerrit account and sign the ICLA but without defining contact information (no mailing address ...) | 13:20 |
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| anteaya | zzelle: yeah, apparently the system needs the entire form to be filled out or it won't connect you | 13:21 |
| anteaya | I talked to someone yesterday who had the same experience | 13:21 |
| zzelle | anteaya: but he cannot update it | 13:21 |
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| anteaya | what do you mean he cannot update it | 13:22 |
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| anteaya | what happens when he inputs information into the form and presses submit? | 13:22 |
| zzelle | anteaya: the following error is raised by gerrit IHM: Server Error \n Cannot store contact information \n (button) Continue | 13:23 |
| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: timestamp 2014-06-16T14:39:45 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2014-06-16.log | 13:23 |
| anteaya | zzelle: is this person a member of the openstack foundation? | 13:23 |
| zzelle | anteaya: nope | 13:23 |
| zzelle | anteaya: is it the trouble cause ? | 13:23 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for ceilometer Build timed out bug 1328679 https://review.openstack.org/100405 | 13:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1328679 in ceilometer "recent build timeout failure in gate" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1328679 | 13:24 |
| anteaya | zzelle: https://www.openstack.org/join/register/ | 13:24 |
| anteaya | yes | 13:24 |
| anteaya | they have to be a member of the openstack foundation | 13:24 |
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| zzelle | anteaya: live testing :) | 13:27 |
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| zzelle | anteaya: live success, thanks :) | 13:31 |
| anteaya | zzelle: glad you got it worked out | 13:31 |
| anteaya | welcome to your collegue | 13:31 |
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| sdague | anteaya: any chance we can figure out a way to make the error message people are getting be self explanatory? | 13:33 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, oh, thanks for the tip, I'll check it right now | 13:35 |
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| anteaya | sdague: from what I have gathered from the backscroll, there used to be a more descriptive error message than what we have now when we had gerrit 2.4 | 13:38 |
| anteaya | I don't know if we lost what we had in the transfer or if gerrit 2.8 is missing something that gerrit 2.4 had | 13:38 |
| anteaya | the issue last night was the individual was not doing what the error message was telling them anyway | 13:39 |
| anteaya | since as so as the did what the error message told them they needed to do, they could submit their patch | 13:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make GIT_BASE configurable for each project https://review.openstack.org/100547 | 13:39 |
| anteaya | sdague: but I do agree that the current error message is causing more confusion that necessary | 13:39 |
| anteaya | I don't know where in gerrit the messages get set | 13:40 |
| anteaya | I will look | 13:40 |
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| anteaya | sdague: here are the error messages for gerrit: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/gerrit/tree/gerrit-common/src/main/java/com/google/gerrit/common/errors | 13:44 |
| anteaya | I'm not sure what our process if for changing these | 13:45 |
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| anteaya | if we change in place or submit patches to upstream, I don't know | 13:45 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, heh, I've started removing old slaves, but it takes several mins per each | 13:48 |
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| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: thank you and yes | 13:49 |
| anteaya | clarkb noticed they were a tad surly when he tried to knock them down yesterday | 13:49 |
| anteaya | they put up a bit of a fight | 13:50 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Add xstatic and xstatic-jquery for Horizon https://review.openstack.org/94337 | 13:50 |
| anteaya | though all the ones that would go quietly have probably already done so in normal delete sweeps | 13:50 |
| anteaya | the gate is not bad, top patch is an hour and a half | 13:51 |
| anteaya | check needs some room to work though | 13:51 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, I'm thinking now about writing multithread script to auto remove old slaves | 13:51 |
| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: I'm sure jeblair would love to have that conversation | 13:52 |
| anteaya | since I'm not up on the latest of what we do have with nodepool other than 'good idea' that is all I have to contribute | 13:52 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, yeah | 13:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, for one slaves it | 13:54 |
| SergeyLukjanov | already takes >5 mins to delete :( | 13:54 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, aaand timeout ;) | 13:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I see images that are in delete state for more than 100h | 13:57 |
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| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: yeah | 14:04 |
| anteaya | it is eating up quota | 14:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, yup, there are about 75/300 slaves that are living for more than hour and in delete state | 14:05 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I mean 300 in delete state in total and 75 of them are with age > 1h | 14:06 |
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| anteaya | yeah | 14:08 |
| anteaya | we could use those 75 in check | 14:08 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for ceilometer Build timed out bug 1328679 https://review.openstack.org/100405 | 14:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1328679 in ceilometer "recent build timeout failure in gate" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1328679 | 14:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, heh, 5/5 attempts to remove slave in rackspace cloud ends with timeout :( | 14:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | folks, I need to go, will return back in 3 hours | 14:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | driving practise | 14:10 |
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| norman | Hi I'd open the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1330879 about the saving error of contact information ,hope some one can help | 14:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1330879 in openstack-ci "Can't save contact information in review.openstack.org" [Undecided,New] | 14:11 |
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| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: drive safe | 14:19 |
| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: thanks for trying | 14:19 |
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| anteaya | norman: are you a member of the openstack foundation? | 14:19 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya hi there | 14:32 |
| boris-42 | anteaya can you help me a bit | 14:32 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya I tried this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100243/5/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml | 14:33 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya but it doesn't pass tests gates cause of line 3569 | 14:34 |
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| anteaya | boris-42: what is the reported failur | 14:37 |
| anteaya | line 3569 is a blank line | 14:37 |
| anteaya | which needs to be there | 14:37 |
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| boris-42 | 3568 | 14:38 |
| boris-42 | anteaya ^ | 14:38 |
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| anteaya | again, what is the reported failure | 14:38 |
| anteaya | I can't tell what system is upset or why just by looking at the code | 14:38 |
| boris-42 | anteaya one sec I'm not so fast=) | 14:38 |
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| anteaya | boris-42: kk | 14:38 |
| boris-42 | anteaya ah remember I have the similar issue but in another patch (project) | 14:41 |
| norman | anteaya: should be ,since I have the account of lauchpad, and actually, I ever follow the guide that how to be a contributor | 14:41 |
| boris-42 | anteaya 2014-06-14 10:50:59.447 | Job osprofiler-pypi-wheel-upload not defined | 14:41 |
| anteaya | norman: having a launchpad account doesn't make you a foundation member | 14:42 |
| boris-42 | anteaya in this file https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100052/ | 14:42 |
| boris-42 | anteaya patch* | 14:42 |
| boris-42 | anteaya when I have such change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100052/2/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml | 14:42 |
| anteaya | norman: can you find yourself in here? http://www.openstack.org/community/members/ | 14:42 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb, sdague, anteaya, any preference which gate test gets converted to apache deployed keystone? I'm leaning towards dsvm-full (non-neutron). once this lands https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98897/ we should be able to start gating on it. | 14:42 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, sdague, anteaya, wanted to open the conversation asap so we can start guaranteeing changes don't break this :) | 14:43 |
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| anteaya | morganfainberg: I don't know | 14:46 |
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| viktors | Hello Folks! Can someone help me to solve issue with the patch to openstack/requirements ? | 14:46 |
| anteaya | viktors: please post the url to the patch in question | 14:46 |
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| anteaya | boris-42: here are the pypi-jobs: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/pypi-jobs.yaml | 14:46 |
| boris-42 | anteaya ah | 14:47 |
| viktors | anteaya: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91407/ (Add oslo.db library) | 14:47 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: sounds good to me. apache + wsgi is the recommended deployment right? makes sense to test it in the main job | 14:47 |
| clarkb | also I am still blah. dont count on me much today | 14:47 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, yep. well with the compressed tokens it's the recommended (or UUID) | 14:47 |
| anteaya | clarkb: :( | 14:47 |
| boris-42 | anteaya got it thanks | 14:47 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, aw :( | 14:47 |
| anteaya | clarkb: able to delete any nodes? | 14:47 |
| boris-42 | anteaya going to update patches | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Fix whitespace that occurs after comma https://review.openstack.org/90484 | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Bump minimum oslo.config version to 1.2.1 https://review.openstack.org/100472 | 14:48 |
| anteaya | boris-42: wait, do you know how you should update them yet? | 14:48 |
| clarkb | anteaya not now. | 14:48 |
| anteaya | boris-42: because I don't | 14:48 |
| anteaya | clarkb: k, thanks | 14:48 |
| morganfainberg | boris-42, ^ apache + keystone is almost capable 2 patches to land (PKI tokens), uuid tokens work now. [unrelated to your current convo] | 14:48 |
| boris-42 | anteaya I'll make like in stacalytics | 14:48 |
| anteaya | boris-42: all I see is that what you have isn't what you need | 14:48 |
| boris-42 | morganfainberg nice! | 14:48 |
| anteaya | boris-42: up to you | 14:48 |
| boris-42 | anteaya heh | 14:48 |
| boris-42 | anteaya I need just to publish new versions of pushing tags... | 14:49 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, ok well i'll propose the change to the main test then. - we can discuss it further in the review :) worst case, we pick a different test. | 14:49 |
| boris-42 | anteaya how to do that? | 14:49 |
| boris-42 | morganfainberg going to make some benchmarks in gates against apache keystone?) | 14:49 |
| morganfainberg | boris-42, would love to. once that lands, lets build up a scenario for it. | 14:49 |
| boris-42 | morganfainberg btw it will be in default gates? | 14:49 |
| morganfainberg | boris-42, for one of the gates | 14:50 |
| morganfainberg | boris-42, we will need to keep it split since eventlet is a real deployment option most people use | 14:50 |
| boris-42 | morganfainberg so we can change this current job | 14:50 |
| boris-42 | morganfainberg or add another | 14:50 |
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| boris-42 | morganfainberg to be able to benchmark with rally in gates | 14:50 |
| boris-42 | against apach | 14:50 |
| morganfainberg | boris-42, ++ cool. lets discuss once this lands. | 14:51 |
| boris-42 | morganfainberg ok | 14:51 |
| morganfainberg | boris-42, hope to have it gating today :), then the change for the gate jobs once it's in | 14:51 |
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| boris-42 | morganfainberg and I hope to get new release of osprofiler | 14:51 |
| boris-42 | morganfainberg that will allow us to profile everything=) | 14:51 |
| boris-42 | morganfainberg but have issues with gates | 14:52 |
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| anteaya | boris-42: you need openstack-publish-jobs: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/openstack-publish-jobs.yaml#n22 | 14:52 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya it doesn't works.. | 14:53 |
| anteaya | show me | 14:53 |
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| dhellmann | viktors, anteaya : the requirements job that is failing is trying to do something using "pip --no-use-wheel" for a requirement that has only been released as a wheel | 14:53 |
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| dhellmann | viktors, anteaya : it's a new oslo library that is still in alpha, so there's no sdist release, yet | 14:54 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: thanks was just going to try to address that one next | 14:54 |
| boris-42 | anteaya take a look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100052/2/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml | 14:54 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: it's not clear if the job is "wrong" in not accounting for this case, or if we have a chicken-and-egg question about how to add new libraries to the acceptable list before we have 1.x releases | 14:54 |
| boris-42 | anteaya it's -osprofiler-merge-release-tags | 14:54 |
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| anteaya | boris-42: on line 2309 you need openstack-publish-jobs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100052/2/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/projects.yaml | 14:55 |
| anteaya | boris-42: you have pypi-jobs | 14:55 |
| anteaya | merge-release-tags is not in pypi-jobs | 14:56 |
| boris-42 | anteaya so I need both? | 14:56 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya and do we need actually merge-release-tags | 14:56 |
| anteaya | and you also have publish-to-pypi | 14:56 |
| anteaya | which is not in pypi-jobs | 14:56 |
| anteaya | publish-to-pypi is not in pypi-jobs | 14:56 |
| anteaya | I showed you the pypi-jobs file | 14:56 |
| anteaya | publish-to-pypi is not in there | 14:57 |
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| anteaya | boris-42: publish-to-pypi is not the name of a job that jjb knows about: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/projects.yaml | 14:58 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya btw seems line only integrated projects are using merge-release-tags | 14:58 |
| anteaya | boris-42: {name}-merge-release-tags is the name of a job jjb knows about | 14:58 |
| anteaya | and you need to call openstack-publish-jobs for {name}-merge-release-tags to work | 14:59 |
| boris-42 | anteaya I think it's only for integrated projects.. | 14:59 |
| anteaya | boris-42: yes, that is what I am seeing in the file | 14:59 |
| anteaya | I don't know that | 14:59 |
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| anteaya | all I do know is that you can't use it without calling openstack-publish-jobs in projects.yaml | 15:00 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya I asked colleague | 15:02 |
| boris-42 | anteaya he said that python-munranoclient works | 15:02 |
| anteaya | do show me the patch | 15:02 |
| boris-42 | anteaya this thing http://paste.openstack.org/show/84302/ | 15:02 |
| boris-42 | anteaya it publishes on tag new releases to pypi | 15:03 |
| anteaya | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/projects.yaml#n126 | 15:03 |
| anteaya | boris-42: well then I am at a loss | 15:04 |
| anteaya | I have given you all I have | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | and I haven't solved your problem | 15:04 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya oh | 15:06 |
| boris-42 | anteaya they have template in layout.yaml | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | do they | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Handle task manager shutdown more correctly https://review.openstack.org/100589 | 15:08 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, jogo: ^ that's why the periodic cleanup thread is not running | 15:08 |
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| jeblair | i will restart nodepool now to correct the problem | 15:08 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: ^ | 15:09 |
| anteaya | jeblair: great thank you | 15:09 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya ^ ok let's try this=) | 15:10 |
| anteaya | boris-42: okay, let's see what jenkins comes back with | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: how soon do you expect to see results from the nodepool restart | 15:17 |
| jeblair | anteaya: immediately | 15:17 |
| anteaya | based on what I see on the graph we are down to about 100-ish nodes running tests | 15:17 |
| anteaya | k | 15:17 |
| clarkb | jeblair should it be if not task or not running? | 15:20 |
| clarkb | rather than and? | 15:20 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: well, i can't think of any other reason for a negative-evaluating task to be on the queue | 15:21 |
| jeblair | i agree it's a bit weird with two indicators... | 15:21 |
| morganfainberg | jeblair, welcome back! hope you had a good time away | 15:21 |
| jeblair | morganfainberg: i did, very much, thank you | 15:22 |
| clarkb | jeblair: but if we are running it will try to run a nil task | 15:23 |
| jeblair | yup | 15:23 |
| clarkb | wont that traceback and die? | 15:24 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Handle task manager shutdown more correctly https://review.openstack.org/100589 | 15:24 |
| jeblair | clarkb: how about that? | 15:24 |
| clarkb | that works thanks | 15:24 |
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| reed | clarkb, jeblair, if you have time today, i'd appreciate a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99481/ | 15:26 |
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| sdague | morganfainberg: so realistically what the path to everything on wsgi? | 15:32 |
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| morganfainberg | sdague, hm. good question. eventually we want the default to be wsgi based, with one gate job running eventlet (so we continue to test it) | 15:33 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, maybe the right answer is to make the default wsgi in devstack and re-kerjigger the gate scripts so we can run one of the jobs in eventlet instead of wsgi? | 15:34 |
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| sdague | morganfainberg: right, but I'd sort of like to world switch that kind of thing | 15:35 |
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| sdague | the per service backends get sort of squirely and we tend to break the logic | 15:35 |
| sdague | which was basically my same objections to the per service ssl patch | 15:35 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, so you want a global toggle? | 15:35 |
| sdague | yeh | 15:36 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, sure no complaint there. | 15:36 |
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| morganfainberg | sdague, woudl you global toggle in devstack-gate ? | 15:37 |
| sdague | yep | 15:37 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, easy then. | 15:37 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, we actually already have the mechanism(s) to do that. | 15:37 |
| sdague | I realistically want our default test case to be wsgi, ipv6, ssl | 15:37 |
| sdague | but it will take us a while to get there | 15:37 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, sure. i don't think we can 100% elminate eventlet from keystone unless we deprecate eventlet support (i'd like to but not today) | 15:38 |
| sdague | sure | 15:38 |
| sdague | this isn't to say we won't run on eventlet, just that our gold standard would be wsgi | 15:38 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, ++ | 15:38 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, ok so i see the changes working like this: get changes merged to make this possible (keystone), make devstack invert (turn off wsgi instead of turn it on) for keystone (use the current ds-g toggle for "global"), provide a single override for one job to run eventlet | 15:40 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: did you see that the initial commit to infra-specs merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94440/ | 15:45 |
| anteaya | jeblair: we tweaked it a bit | 15:45 |
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| jeblair | gah | 15:47 |
| jeblair | clarkb: why did you do this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94440/3..4/doc/source/index.rst | 15:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Restore directory hierarchy to original design https://review.openstack.org/100602 | 15:49 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: we discussed it at the meeting last week: 19:43:28 <fungi> #topic Infra specs (fungi) eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2014/infra.2014-06-10-19.02.log.html | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add neutron-lbaas to list of logged channels https://review.openstack.org/100603 | 15:51 |
| reed | one question about this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99223/ it supposed to make groups 'public' but it seems it made the list public to authenticated only... is that what it meant to do? | 15:51 |
| anteaya | jeblair: clark noticed that the docs weren't building with the original code | 15:51 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ^ that was a deliberate choice, one which was reaffirmed in review of another change to the specs repo | 15:52 |
| jeblair | anteaya: they most certainly were: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/40/94440/3/check/gate-infra-specs-docs/7c2a71b/doc/build/html/specs/test.html | 15:52 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: okay good, I had never checked myself, I took clarkb's word for it | 15:54 |
| jeblair | anteaya: yeah, the 'implemented' specs aren't built as part of the final doc. i'm not even sure we want them published. but if we did, i'm fairly certain that we wouldn't want them lumped in with the ones in progress. | 15:54 |
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| * anteaya nods | 15:55 | |
| anteaya | makes sense | 15:55 |
| anteaya | sorry I didn't know to stand up for it last week | 15:55 |
| jeblair | anteaya: i'm leaning toward the first option there, thus the choice i made when setting it up. but fungi suggested the second one in his response to clarkb. since clarkb didn't respond, i assumed that settled the matter and did not respond myself. | 15:55 |
| anteaya | ah | 15:56 |
| anteaya | you just should never disappear | 15:56 |
| anteaya | things run better when you are always here | 15:56 |
| anteaya | :D | 15:56 |
| jogo | jeblair: sweet | 15:56 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: nah, it's fine, i'm just switching it back is all. :) | 15:57 |
| anteaya | kk | 15:58 |
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| phschwartz | What image are you guys using for the git servers? I know it is a centos, but which one. | 15:59 |
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| reed | jeblair, can you help with this please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99223/ the list of member of iCLA group should be public as in readable by anonymous, too | 15:59 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: we had suggested publishing implemented specs would be a good thing | 16:00 |
| clarkb | as a reference | 16:00 |
| jogo | jeblair: so not sure if you saw what jhesketh and I talked about last night | 16:00 |
| jeblair | clarkb: if we decide to do that (i don't see the purpose), they should certainly not be just lumped in with the others. | 16:01 |
| clarkb | but also figured the cost of change is low. I am ok with changing it back | 16:01 |
| anteaya | phschwartz: hi, pleia2 set up the git servers and she is in Croatia today, let me see if the config/site.pp has it listed | 16:01 |
| phschwartz | anteaya: It just says it is a centos, but doesn't state the image. | 16:02 |
| phschwartz | I was holding my self from pulling up the tenant and looking | 16:02 |
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| anteaya | phschwartz: yeah I see the same | 16:02 |
| anteaya | I don't know where else to look for the image | 16:02 |
| clarkb | centos pvhvm after the most recent rebuild iirc | 16:03 |
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| clarkb | does it matter? | 16:03 |
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| anteaya | yay, we deleted some nodes | 16:03 |
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| phschwartz | clarkb: We have about 30 centos images exposed. I wanted to make sure that I was using the same base for my setup as you guys and just wanted to make sure you were using the latest 6.5 PVHVM | 16:04 |
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| jeblair | reed: in what way do you need help with that? | 16:05 |
| reed | jeblair, since the patch merged but the behavior is not as intended I don't understand if the patch is wrong or we just didn't understand each other | 16:05 |
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| zaro | morning | 16:08 |
| anteaya | morning zaro | 16:08 |
| anteaya | I have a question for you about gerrit error messages | 16:08 |
| anteaya | zaro: people get this error message and come into the channel confused: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/gerrit/tree/gerrit-common/src/main/java/com/google/gerrit/common/errors/ContactInformationStoreException.java | 16:08 |
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| jeblair | zaro: and when you're done with that, can you please look into reed's question about what needs to happen for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99223/ to work? | 16:09 |
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| anteaya | zaro: frequently the cause of the error is that they haven't signed up to be a foundation member | 16:09 |
| anteaya | zaro: how do we say, ensure you are a foundation member in the error message? | 16:09 |
| clarkb | you cant with current gerrit | 16:10 |
| anteaya | clarkb: can you explain why that is? | 16:10 |
| clarkb | gerrit gets back a non 200 from foundation and reports error | 16:10 |
| anteaya | we seem to have been better at it with old gerrit | 16:10 |
| anteaya | ah | 16:10 |
| anteaya | any non-200 spits out this error | 16:10 |
| clarkb | also when people provide incomplete details and it "works" is not a gerrit bug aiui. the foundation side must return 200 | 16:11 |
| reed | anteaya, I think it's because the current gerrit doesn't check that Mailing Address actually has *something* in it | 16:11 |
| reed | and in Country, too | 16:11 |
| clarkb | reed ots not gerrits fault | 16:11 |
| anteaya | reed, no this latest one was the person was not a foundation member | 16:11 |
| reed | clarkb, it's a different behavior | 16:11 |
| mrmartin | hi. I need a little help seems to be that I successfully locked out myself from groups project, because the gating constantly fails. This patch could bring a resolution but cannot go through, and I not understand why. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100548/ http://logs.openstack.org/48/100548/1/check/gate-groups-unittests/6731e1f/console.html | 16:11 |
| reed | anteaya, you mean the one on the mailing list? | 16:11 |
| anteaya | reed: no | 16:12 |
| anteaya | I am following up on the conversation I had with sdague this morning | 16:12 |
| clarkb | you mean if its just the email thats set? | 16:12 |
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| anteaya | the person was not a foundation member | 16:12 |
| anteaya | becoming a foundation member solved the issue | 16:12 |
| reed | anteaya, then possibly the sdague is the one that reported on the mailing list too | 16:13 |
| clarkb | that is a "feature" means I can register to foundation wirh different email address than I want to use in gerrit | 16:13 |
| anteaya | sdague made the point that the error message isn't clear that becoming a foundation member is the behaviour required | 16:13 |
| clarkb | but may be confusing | 16:13 |
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| reed | i'm less concerned about people not reading the manual | 16:13 |
| anteaya | reed: I have no idea | 16:13 |
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| zaro | would making the fields *required* solve this issue? | 16:13 |
| anteaya | what manual? | 16:13 |
| reed | I suspect there is some *wrong* document out there circulating | 16:13 |
| clarkb | zaro I dont want that though | 16:13 |
| reed | anteaya, the wiki on how to sign the CLA | 16:14 |
| anteaya | most people who come in here haven't read any manual | 16:14 |
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| anteaya | they just start pushing buttons | 16:14 |
| clarkb | I use a different email address in gerrit than provided to foundation | 16:14 |
| reed | I had episodes in the past of waves of people not able to get git review working... | 16:14 |
| anteaya | so yeah, they haven't read the wikipages | 16:14 |
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| anteaya | which we usually tell them to do | 16:14 |
| reed | turned out they were all following instructions from the same *wrong* blog post | 16:14 |
| anteaya | zaro: so you are saying we can't alter the text of that error message, is that an accurate reflection of your perspective? | 16:15 |
| reed | next thing this happens, I hope to remember asking them which documents they're following | 16:15 |
| dougwig | hi infra team. can someone point me at the repo that needs editing for adding an irc channel to eavesdrop? it's #openstack-lbaas, and openstackinfra already has admin rights, as per this page: http://ci.openstack.org/irc.html | 16:15 |
| anteaya | reed: I do ask | 16:15 |
| sdague | reed: I'm pretty concerned about being really cryptic to users about what went wrong | 16:15 |
| anteaya | reed: I get crickets | 16:15 |
| anteaya | reed: then fungi gives them the wikipage | 16:15 |
| anteaya | so I am left to assume, they follow no documentation | 16:16 |
| reed | anteaya, that explains :) I'm less concerned about them then | 16:16 |
| anteaya | those are the ones who show up here | 16:16 |
| zaro | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/gerrit/tree/ | 16:16 |
| sdague | because the process is so freaking long, getting it right is actually hard | 16:16 |
| clarkb | sdague: so there are two halves to that problem. 1 gerrit does't know hwo to do anything else and 2 we are stuck with what the foundation tells us | 16:16 |
| anteaya | because yes, if there is erroneous info circulating I want to know about it | 16:16 |
| sdague | clarkb: ok, that was mostly the problem | 16:16 |
| reed | sdague, for sure, it's horribly cryptic... but we'll be able to get rid of that fairly soon so to me it's not a priority to fix | 16:16 |
| jeblair | reed: ++ | 16:17 |
| anteaya | zaro: yes, the gerrit repo | 16:17 |
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| sdague | I wanted to see *if* it was easy to provide a better error message | 16:17 |
| sdague | the answer being no, answers it :) | 16:17 |
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| jeblair | sdague: nope, if it were, we would have :) | 16:17 |
| reed | sdague, don't waste too much time on it | 16:17 |
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| anteaya | okay thanks | 16:17 |
| clarkb | dougwig: http://ci.openstack.org/irc.html#gerritbot though you also need to add your channel to https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/accessbot/channels.yaml | 16:17 |
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| anteaya | glad we discussed it | 16:17 |
| reed | the new openID provider will take care of that, and a change to the bylaws is not excluded either... | 16:18 |
| dougwig | ty | 16:18 |
| clarkb | that irc doc should probably be updated to include the channels.yaml stuff | 16:18 |
| anteaya | reed: I was talking to ttx | 16:18 |
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| anteaya | reed: he expects zero changes to the bylaws | 16:18 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: well its hard | 16:19 |
| anteaya | since once the infra in in place the bylaws support not forcing every contributor to be a foundation member | 16:19 |
| reed | looks like mrmartin needs help urgently | 16:19 |
| anteaya | clarkb: what part is hard? | 16:19 |
| clarkb | anteaya: changing the bylaws | 16:19 |
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| anteaya | we don't need to change them | 16:19 |
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| ttx | we don't need to changethe bylaws | 16:20 |
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| anteaya | the bylaws already support not forcing every contributor to be a member | 16:20 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: http://logs.openstack.org/48/100548/1/check/gate-groups-unittests/6731e1f/console.html#_2014-06-17_14_07_58_048 is the error and I have no idea how to debug drush unittets | 16:20 |
| ttx | they never linked the two. We did. | 16:20 |
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| reed | anteaya, we'll see... I think what's hard is change the bylaws not to require the CLAs | 16:20 |
| clarkb | in that case why don't we just remove the check? | 16:20 |
| clarkb | does the foundation actually use that linklage in any meaningful way? | 16:21 |
| zaro | anteaya: i think we can alter anything. i'm not exactly sure what we want to alter it to so that it's general enough for every use case. | 16:21 |
| anteaya | reed the CLAs are an entirely differnt conversation | 16:21 |
| reed | clarkb, I think I sent a message to the mlist about that | 16:21 |
| clarkb | reed: I don't think it is a mail list discussion honestly | 16:21 |
| anteaya | reed: mushing them into one conversation impeeds progress where we need clear understanding | 16:21 |
| clarkb | reed: we are doing it purely for the foudation | 16:21 |
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| clarkb | I don't get to see that linkage and no one else does | 16:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: the linkage is used for elections | 16:21 |
| jeblair | (implicitly currently) | 16:21 |
| reed | clarkb, http://maffulli.net/2014/06/03/towards-a-directory-for-all-openstack-people talks a bit about this issue and I sent also an email with similar content to #infra mlist | 16:22 |
| anteaya | which I want to seperate at the earliest possible opportunity | 16:22 |
| jeblair | so before we cut it, we need to make sure there's a plan to correlate git committers and foundation members in order to run PTL/TC elections | 16:22 |
| ttx | clarkb: the whole thing is because we have no way to determine ATCs if we don't "recommend" that committers are Foundation members :) | 16:22 |
| anteaya | as soon as we have a way to select all ATCs from contributors | 16:22 |
| anteaya | because right now, we don't have access to the foundation db to perform that query | 16:22 |
| clarkb | ttx: jeblair: why can't PTL and TC elections be run out of purely gerrit/git data? | 16:23 |
| clarkb | and foundation elections out of foundation membership? | 16:23 |
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| zaro | anteaya: i'm not sure what you are asking in regards to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99223 | 16:23 |
| reed | clarkb, because matching people to their electronic ID is a nightmare | 16:23 |
| ttx | clarkb: because ATCS need to be foundation members | 16:23 |
| anteaya | because we don't have current data on foundation memberships status | 16:23 |
| jeblair | clarkb: PTL and TC elections are foundation elections | 16:23 |
| anteaya | linked to gerrit emails | 16:23 |
| ttx | but you don't have to be an ATC to submit code. | 16:23 |
| clarkb | ohhhhh so we can't separate them | 16:23 |
| mordred | so ... | 16:23 |
| anteaya | clarkb: not yet | 16:23 |
| mordred | I was thinking about this a little | 16:23 |
| reed | uh oh | 16:23 |
| clarkb | anteaya: doesn't sound like ever | 16:24 |
| ttx | so ATC = committer + Foundation member | 16:24 |
| clarkb | you have to link them somehow | 16:24 |
| anteaya | the openstackid thing will allow us to seperate them | 16:24 |
| * reed braces for mordred's crazy idea | 16:24 | |
| clarkb | the linkage doesn't need to be in CLA signing | 16:24 |
| ttx | and it gives you the right to vote. | 16:24 |
| mordred | why don't we just sent an email to the set of committers we know of a week before the elections | 16:24 |
| clarkb | but you need to linkl them | 16:24 |
| mordred | saying "hey, elections are coming up, if you're not a foundation member and you want to vote, make sure you go sign up | 16:24 |
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| mordred | and then, when we make the ATC list - it may not match the committer list 100% | 16:24 |
| mordred | but some of the committers may not care | 16:24 |
| mordred | I think we're trying too hard to hand hold a group of very smart people | 16:25 |
| zaro | reed: did your question get answered in this review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99223 | 16:25 |
| anteaya | zaro: I have no comment son 99223, never seen it before | 16:25 |
| reed | sounds like a crazy idea that needs to be run by the lawyers | 16:25 |
| ttx | mordred: sure, as long as we ahve a way to tell who is a committer AND a foundation member | 16:25 |
| ttx | (i.e. an ATC) | 16:25 |
| zaro | anteaya: you asked in scrollback. | 16:25 |
| reed | zaro, not really... the commit message says that the list is 'public' but it's only available to authenticated | 16:25 |
| jeblair | mordred: yeah, i think that's fine. i think grabbing both lists and matching on meails is fine | 16:25 |
| ttx | currently we have no celan way to determine who is an ATC, sadly | 16:25 |
| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 16:26 |
| reed | zaro, I'd rather have that list available to anonymous | 16:26 |
| ttx | matching on email was quite error-prone in the past | 16:26 |
| clarkb | jeblair: mordred the proiblem with that is I wouldn't show up as an ATC then | 16:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: why not? | 16:26 |
| ttx | and I'm not sure we can exclude people because they don't have matching email addreses | 16:26 |
| clarkb | mordred: my gerrit email != foundation email | 16:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: why? | 16:26 |
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| anteaya | zaro: not me, reed | 16:27 |
| ttx | last time we tried, about 40% of the committers turned out not to have an email mathcing in the Foundation DB | 16:27 |
| reed | indeed, we can't exclude people from voting, I'm quite sure that the corporation has obligations toward its members | 16:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: because I find gmails spam filter really good but its terrible for gerrit email | 16:27 |
| jeblair | clarkb: gerrit allows multiple emails; i think the restriction would be that _one of_ your gerrit emails has to match your foundation email. | 16:27 |
| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 16:27 |
| ttx | people tend to update Gerrit email without updating Foundation email | 16:27 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that may work (its not how it works today though...) | 16:27 |
| zaro | fungi: ohh i see, more appropriate for fungi to make that change. | 16:27 |
| ttx | I think it's fine for elections (require that emails are synced) | 16:27 |
| ttx | after all we need to send an email to let them vote | 16:27 |
| reed | zaro, if I curl https://review.openstack.org/a/groups/a49e4febb69477d0aa5737038c1802dd6cab67c5/members I get accessdenied | 16:27 |
| ttx | The trick is... | 16:28 |
| jeblair | clarkb: we are talking about the future :) but actually, no, when i provide the list for the ATC badges, I give _all_ the gerrit emails to the foundation. | 16:28 |
| mordred | right. I mean, I'm just saying ... sending a note saying "elections are coming up, if you care, please do X" | 16:28 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ah ok so that part of linking uses all the emails. thats good | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | craigtracey proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Octavia to Stackforge https://review.openstack.org/100576 | 16:28 |
| ttx | we still need to be able to tell "who is an ATC" and the bylwas don't say "you're an ATC only if your emails match between Gerrit and Foundation DB" | 16:28 |
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| reed | guys, we'll solve this problem once the damn openid server is live and currently we have a bunch of blockers that prevent that from happening | 16:28 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, it's only the current CLA signing thing, which we're talking about nixing anyway, that requries your primary | 16:28 |
| ttx | mordred: it's not just an election thing. | 16:29 |
| reed | one is the issue, not solved by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99223/ | 16:29 |
| ttx | We need to be able to give the list of ATCs to the Foundation. Currently we can't | 16:29 |
| zaro | reed: yes, acls need to explicitly set to 'anonymous' access. It wasn't clear to me that was what you wanted in your comment. | 16:29 |
| ttx | the only way we can is because we enforced a limitation that has no right to be there | 16:29 |
| jeblair | ttx: this process doesn't _determine_ whether you are an ATC, it just helps identify ATCs. | 16:29 |
| clarkb | reed: anteaya re 99223 that is just documentation. It is possible fungi did not update gerrit | 16:29 |
| ttx | jeblair: the bylaws still ask us to have a clear list of ATCs. | 16:30 |
| jeblair | ttx: and people who are not correctly identified as such can easily correct it | 16:30 |
| jeblair | ttx: sure, we match up both lists and we get our list. if it's wrong, people can help fix it. | 16:30 |
| * ttx is having a meeting in parallel | 16:30 | |
| ttx | can't argue with the full brain yet | 16:30 |
| reed | ttx, jeblair, indeed, I think it's related to the CLA too, whether we like it or not | 16:30 |
| anteaya | ttx sorry about this | 16:30 |
| anteaya | this was the conversation I hoped we would have during a meeting | 16:31 |
| anteaya | reed how is this related to the CLA? | 16:31 |
| reed | anteaya, yeah, we keep circling around this issue and we already have decided what the solutions are only the solutions are slow to appear | 16:31 |
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| clarkb | CLA Accepted - ICLA claims to be visible by all registered users | 16:32 |
| anteaya | but how is selected all contributers who are ATCs for the electoral roll related to the CLA? | 16:32 |
| reed | clarkb, zaro: I think I wasn't clear about what I meant with 'public' | 16:32 |
| anteaya | s/selected/selecting | 16:32 |
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| clarkb | reed: what do you mean? | 16:33 |
| ttx | We are confusing two issues | 16:33 |
| anteaya | ttx no kidding | 16:33 |
| ttx | as far as elections are concerned, I think we can survive the decouplin | 16:33 |
| reed | clarkb, public as in visible to all, non authenticated included | 16:33 |
| anteaya | agreed | 16:33 |
| ttx | by asking people to sync their emails if they want to vote | 16:33 |
| clarkb | reed: there isn't a way to do that in gerrit aiui | 16:33 |
| ttx | BUT there is more to ATC status than just election | 16:33 |
| clarkb | reed: but that shouldn't be a problem right? | 16:33 |
| anteaya | ttx awesome | 16:33 |
| bodepd | fungi: I was just having a look at my CI user and it doesn't seem to exist anymore in gerrit | 16:33 |
| clarkb | reed: anonymous users don't need that data | 16:33 |
| ttx | it's a status defined in the bylaws unfortunately | 16:33 |
| bodepd | fungi: I'm asking you b/c you mentioned that you had changed the name? | 16:34 |
| ttx | and the bylaws ask that we maintain the list. And they don't say emails should be synced. | 16:34 |
| anteaya | bodepd: what is the name? | 16:34 |
| clarkb | bodepd: it would just be the Name not user name | 16:34 |
| ttx | So we need a unified solution, rather sooner than later | 16:34 |
| reed | clarkb, it makes things easier but if it cannot be done from gerrit side that's a fine answer too | 16:34 |
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| ttx | But I think the election hack + the ID project covers us nicely | 16:34 |
| anteaya | bodepd: what is the name of the CI? | 16:34 |
| sdague | clarkb: you feel like pushing this one in - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97965 | 16:34 |
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| clarkb | reed: the options are to make a group visible to the group itself or to all registered users or to no one | 16:35 |
| anteaya | bodepd: I'm concerned if CI accounts disappear | 16:35 |
| clarkb | reed: I don't see a way to make it actually public public. | 16:35 |
| reed | clarkb, good enough, thanks | 16:35 |
| bodepd | anteaya: puppet-openstack-ci-user | 16:35 |
| ttx | We can basically say: "if you're an ATC and want to vote, make sure your emails match!" -- that's election procedural, will work if communicated early enough | 16:35 |
| anteaya | bodepd: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:puppet.openstack.ci%2540gmail.com+status:open,n,z | 16:36 |
| ttx | But we'll still need a clear way to determine who is an ATC. | 16:36 |
| ttx | But that's two slightly different issues. | 16:36 |
| anteaya | bodepd: we haven't changed any CI account names yet | 16:36 |
| anteaya | bodepd: is that your account? | 16:36 |
| ttx | because one is carved in bylaws stone and the other is not. | 16:36 |
| clarkb | sdague: ya I can approve that. I really don't think you will get any valuable info | 16:36 |
| clarkb | sdague: as you can see hpcloud claims to use 7 yaer old core 2 duos | 16:36 |
| clarkb | which can't be true and if it is true... | 16:37 |
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| sdague | heh | 16:37 |
| sdague | well, it would be good to have | 16:37 |
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| bodepd | anteaya: that is the one that I am looking for | 16:37 |
| anteaya | ttx will the openstackid setup not allow us to determine who are ATCs | 16:37 |
| anteaya | bodepd: great | 16:37 |
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| reed | ttx, I'm not sure that's good enough... we are a corporation, may be obligated by Delaware's laws to do more than that | 16:37 |
| ttx | anteaya: it will. | 16:37 |
| bodepd | anteaya: the private key that I thought was associated with it doesn't work, I tried to reset the password and got "No account associated with puppet.openstack.ci@gmail.com" | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for cinder lvmremove failure https://review.openstack.org/100447 | 16:38 |
| jeblair | ttx: we could identify the ATCs with mordred's proposal with the same fidelity we do today. | 16:38 |
| anteaya | ttx great | 16:38 |
| anteaya | bodepd: ah | 16:38 |
| reed | do you realise we're spending time discussing something for which we already have a fix in the pipeline? | 16:38 |
| ttx | reed: it's not for board election, so I'm not sure where Delaware law is getting into the picture | 16:38 |
| anteaya | bodepd: do you need an updated key associated with the account? | 16:38 |
| bodepd | anteaya: can I not do it myself? | 16:39 |
| anteaya | reed: but people don't know we do | 16:39 |
| reed | ttx, TC and PTL are organs of the corporation, too | 16:39 |
| anteaya | bodepd: no, third party CI accounts don't have gui access | 16:39 |
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| ttx | reed: if the TC was, we couldn't use Condorcet :) | 16:39 |
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| anteaya | bodepd: and you can't shell in to change it | 16:39 |
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| clarkb | sdague: that may actually be part of the speed problem if the feature list lines up with a core 2 duo | 16:40 |
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| clarkb | sdague: hrm, that would be really annoying | 16:40 |
| reed | ttx, it is, and condorcet is an anomaly :) | 16:40 |
| clarkb | sdague: in 1.0 we had xeons | 16:40 |
| clarkb | according to cpuinfo | 16:40 |
| clarkb | which would come with a lot more special magic than a fake core 2 duo | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "disable voting on gate-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic" https://review.openstack.org/100623 | 16:40 |
| devananda | sdague: ^ | 16:40 |
| reed | ttx, in any case, a change like the one you propose would have to be evaluated by our lawyers... which will take more time than actually deploying our damn openid | 16:40 |
| anteaya | bodepd: if you do need a new key for the account, please email the infra ml with the new public key and the account info | 16:40 |
| ttx | reed: I'm also not sure the TC would qualify as anorgan of a Delaware corporation. It's a committee in it, and they can be freely arranged | 16:41 |
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| anteaya | the tc can conduct elections as it sees fit | 16:41 |
| anteaya | it is in the bylaws | 16:41 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for ceilometer Build timed out bug 1328679 https://review.openstack.org/100405 | 16:41 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1328679 in ceilometer "recent build timeout failure in gate" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1328679 | 16:41 |
| ttx | reed: i'm not sure we actually change anything | 16:42 |
| reed | i'm done talking about this | 16:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Restore directory hierarchy to original design https://review.openstack.org/100602 | 16:43 |
| ttx | In particular, we are not changing anything in the bylaws. | 16:43 |
| reed | ttx, we change our processes and as you noticed with the specs thing, that requires *lots* of work. We can't change something as crucial as how we run elections every month | 16:43 |
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| anteaya | reed we don't change them every month | 16:43 |
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| anteaya | the elections only happen every 6 months | 16:43 |
| reed | anteaya, we do a lot more often than we strictly need to | 16:43 |
| anteaya | unless we need a by-election | 16:43 |
| jeblair | ttx: (minor clarification: there's no delaware-law reason condorcet can't be used for board elections. a number of corporations do use it.) | 16:43 |
| anteaya | how do you mean? | 16:43 |
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| ttx | reed: I see your point, but in this precise case, we would make the process more bylaws-compatible than it is today. | 16:44 |
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| reed | we should not change anything about how we operate until we have moved the openid server to production and replaced launchpad with it | 16:44 |
| reed | ttx, a change is a change, don't do it | 16:44 |
| ttx | reed: i'm fine with that option too. | 16:44 |
| clarkb | sdague: I think sse4_1 is newer than the T7700 so we seem to get a better feature list | 16:44 |
| reed | great :) | 16:45 |
| ttx | The key issue here is our requirement to be a Foundation member to submit code... which is backed by nothing in the bylaws or the CLA | 16:45 |
| ttx | it's only reason for existing is to close a technical loophole in electorate generation | 16:45 |
| reed | can we now switch to fixing issues that prevent code to be deployed? mrmartin has issues | 16:45 |
| ttx | loophole that we can close in other ways. | 16:45 |
| mrmartin | reed: I found meanwhile | 16:46 |
| ttx | I'll shut up now | 16:46 |
| ttx | It's inner time anyway. | 16:46 |
| ttx | +d | 16:46 |
| andreaf | clarkb: ping | 16:46 |
| reed | ttx, we talked about that loophole and provided a solution for that already, and there is a discussion on mlist about that. Done. Next topic for me too :) | 16:46 |
| bodepd | anteaya: ah, yep, my key works. I was confused by not being able to login | 16:46 |
| clarkb | andreaf: pong | 16:46 |
| reed | s/provided/designed | 16:46 |
| andreaf | clarkb: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98365/3 | 16:46 |
| anteaya | bodepd: great, many happy returns | 16:47 |
| * ttx would rather have us focus on getting that openstackID thing up asap -- which will solve all problems in one shot | 16:47 | |
| andreaf | clarkb: I was thinking that perhaps the feature.yaml should be in openstack-infra/config | 16:47 |
| anteaya | ttx but I am glad that we gave some air so that folks know what problems we are fixing | 16:47 |
| ttx | rather than investigating hypothetical workarounds in the case it's not ready by the time we need to have the next round of PTl elections | 16:47 |
| ttx | anteaya: agreed, lots of confusion as to what we are trying to solve here | 16:48 |
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| harlowja | sdague are u ok with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99556/ | 16:48 |
| * ttx dinners | 16:48 | |
| anteaya | so we do have an item on today's infra agenda to discuss the openstackid timeframe | 16:48 |
| anteaya | do attend | 16:48 |
| clarkb | andreaf: it is | 16:48 |
| clarkb | andreaf: but you can provide your own | 16:48 |
| clarkb | andreaf: which was one of the ncie things about adding the test-matrix.py script | 16:48 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: so if you need to override something just provide a different feature.yaml | 16:48 |
| andreaf | clarkb: I think at the moment it's stored in devstack-gate, isn't it? | 16:49 |
| clarkb | andreaf: we are trying to avoid handling every downstream testers openstack testing needs through code and push it into config | 16:49 |
| clarkb | andreaf: it is but you can provide your own | 16:49 |
| clarkb | andreaf: you will need to update devstack-gate to pass in the path to the file which was my suggestion in that change | 16:49 |
| andreaf | clarkb: right I was thinking that also for upstream it should be in openstack-infra/config rather than openstack-infra/devstack-gate | 16:49 |
| clarkb | andreaf: upstream it will be | 16:50 |
| clarkb | and upstream should default to that location | 16:50 |
| clarkb | but if you need a different test matrix we should just provide a different matrix | 16:50 |
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| andreaf | so if the config repo precached on the devstack VMs? | 16:50 |
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| mordred | all repos are | 16:51 |
| clarkb | all of the repos are precached on all of our slaves | 16:51 |
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| andreaf | ok I didn't see the config repo being fetched from the logs that's why I was asking... so under /opt/stack? | 16:52 |
| clarkb | andreaf: it shouldn't be in the config repo | 16:53 |
| clarkb | andreaf: it will stay in devsatck-gate for upstream | 16:53 |
| clarkb | andreaf: where you want to provide your test matrix is up to you | 16:53 |
| andreaf | clarkb: it feels a bit odd that you have to change devstack-gate to change the branches rather than config | 16:54 |
| clarkb | andreaf: that is config though | 16:54 |
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| clarkb | mordred: ^ can I say that the branches thing you did is still terrible | 16:54 |
| mordred | clarkb: I still disagree with you 100% | 16:54 |
| clarkb | andreaf: we have explicitly pulled that out into a config file to make it easier for folks like you to reconsume devstack gate without needing to use our workflow | 16:55 |
| clarkb | andreaf: that means you may need to carry different config though | 16:55 |
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| andreaf | clarkb: sure ok | 16:55 |
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| jogo | jeblair: did your nodepool patch land? because I see a spike where the number of nodes in deleting state dropped | 17:08 |
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| anteaya | jogo: I know jeblair restarted nodepool to cause the spike, I am uncertain of the status of the patch | 17:09 |
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| jeblair | anteaya, jogo: right -- the patch has not landed, but the simple restart corrected the immedate problem (and it should stay corrected until the config changes again | 17:10 |
| anteaya | I look forward to jeblair's clarification | 17:10 |
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| anteaya | ah cool | 17:10 |
| jeblair | if it does, it may need another restart if the problem trips again) | 17:10 |
| jeblair | of course the rax deleting problem still persists afaik, but at least nodepool should delete nodes almost as fast as rax lets it | 17:11 |
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| devananda | clarkb, sdague: so I'm comfortable with the stability of the tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic job, and that it also covers what the earlier tempest-dsvm-ironic job does (api exercises). I'm going to propose we drop one of those jobs. | 17:12 |
| anteaya | which will help | 17:12 |
| jogo | jeblair: ahh | 17:13 |
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| devananda | I'd like to merge them and just call it by the shorter name (tempest-dsvm-ironic). any thoughts / objections? | 17:13 |
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| clarkb | devananda: wfm | 17:27 |
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| devananda | cool | 17:29 |
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| krotscheck | nibalizer: On https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100370/2/Rakefile, is there supposed to be a duplicate disable_class_parameter_defaults? | 17:31 |
| krotscheck | I don’t quite understand the linked bug ticket. | 17:31 |
| nibalizer | haha yes, its double disabled | 17:31 |
| nibalizer | jk thats a bug | 17:31 |
| krotscheck | It’s SUPER disabled. | 17:31 |
| nibalizer | i stole that comment from the rakefile in infra/config | 17:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Create a marconi-specs repository https://review.openstack.org/100633 | 17:32 |
| jesusaurus | nibalizer: double secret disabled? | 17:32 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any info on how to change the style in a wiki template? | 17:33 |
| nibalizer | krotscheck: basically doing variable interpolation in parameters to class parameters | 17:33 |
| anteaya | I'm trying to get the name in https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Template:ThirdPartySystemInfo&action=edit more prominent | 17:33 |
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| krotscheck | nibalizer: So wait, it’s _supposed_ to disable twice? | 17:34 |
| nibalizer | krotscheck: no i was joking | 17:34 |
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| nibalizer | this is what i'm used to using for a rakefile for a puppet module | 17:34 |
| nibalizer | but a lot of it is opinionated and I don't really care | 17:34 |
| nibalizer | https://github.com/nibalizer/puppet-module-puppetboard/blob/master/Rakefile | 17:34 |
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| rm_work | anyone available to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100603/ ? | 17:36 |
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| anteaya | rm_work: if you want to do /msg chanserv info #openstack-lbaas and paste the output in a comment on that patch, that will save me a step | 17:37 |
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| boris-42 | jeblair clarkb mordred pls could I get review for osprofiler (publishing tag stuff) really need it… https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100052/ | 17:39 |
| boris-42 | jeblair clarkb mordred thanks a lot | 17:39 |
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| nibalizer | krotscheck: so i've verified that we don't have to have that disabled any more because the bug is fixed | 17:43 |
| nibalizer | so im gonna remove both instances of the disabling | 17:44 |
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| krotscheck | Got it | 17:44 |
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| nibalizer | bomb incomipng | 17:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Support for alternate trunk name (not master) https://review.openstack.org/98365 | 17:49 |
| andreaf | clarkb: does this look better: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98365/4 ?# | 17:50 |
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| clarkb | andreaf: yup thanks | 17:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Put a default section header above the TTL https://review.openstack.org/100328 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: StoryBoard module bounces apache on update https://review.openstack.org/100329 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Add Storyboard puppet module https://review.openstack.org/100321 | 17:54 |
| andreaf | clarkb: cool thanks for the feedback | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Added Authorization Header flag to storyboard module https://review.openstack.org/100322 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Adding Rakefile https://review.openstack.org/100370 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard run over ssl https://review.openstack.org/100323 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard projects from projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/100324 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard superusers from yaml file https://review.openstack.org/100325 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Storyboard token expiration increased https://review.openstack.org/100326 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard idempotent https://review.openstack.org/100327 | 17:54 |
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| rm_work | anteaya: hmm, i did that but the formatting is a bit wonky <_< i can try again if that's not enough | 17:55 |
| rm_work | and we're submitting patch #2 in a sec to fix the logging thing | 17:55 |
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| anteaya | rm_work: that works for me | 17:57 |
| anteaya | as long as it is in one of the comments on the patch | 17:58 |
| anteaya | rm_work: thanks | 17:58 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I'm cleaning up the meeting agenda, fungi is mostly away this week, do you still want infra-specs on today's agenda? | 17:59 |
| sabeen | Hi All! I was wondering if there is there any documentation around what the localrc file looks like for the server on which the tempest gating tests run? | 17:59 |
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| anteaya | sabeen: #openstack-qa is a better bet | 17:59 |
| clarkb | sabeen: yes it hsould be included with the logs of every test run | 17:59 |
| sabeen | thanks anteaya - i'll get more details there | 18:00 |
| sabeen | thanks clarkb, i'll take a look! | 18:00 |
| anteaya | ianw: is the f20 item on today's infra agenda your item? | 18:01 |
| jeblair | anteaya: i'm not sure if anything about specs needs to be discussed beyond "infra-cores and especially jeblair should get around to reviewing them" | 18:02 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: are you aware of anything beyond that? | 18:02 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: no, I shall remove it from the agenda | 18:03 |
| anteaya | going to be a packed meeting anyhow | 18:03 |
| anteaya | mordred: are you going to be around to discuss manage-projects status? | 18:04 |
| anteaya | I'm guessing fungi will try to be at the meeting but he might not make it | 18:04 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I believe manage-projects is good | 18:04 |
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| clarkb | can probably be removed from the agenda if mordred confirm | 18:04 |
| clarkb | s | 18:04 |
| anteaya | kk | 18:04 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: that last bug to fix ACL updates has made new projects happy. The only outstanding issue sometimes github tells us to go away | 18:05 |
| clarkb | anteaya: and I believe that is owrked around by running fewer github API calls | 18:05 |
| mordred | anteaya: yah | 18:05 |
| anteaya | agenda item being removed | 18:05 |
| anteaya | thanks | 18:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: New StoryBoard Logo https://review.openstack.org/99217 | 18:06 |
| anteaya | so zaro reed me and maybe rdopiera and maybe ianw | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add openstack-lbaas to list of logged channels https://review.openstack.org/100603 | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Put a default section header above the TTL https://review.openstack.org/100328 | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: StoryBoard module bounces apache on update https://review.openstack.org/100329 | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Add Storyboard puppet module https://review.openstack.org/100321 | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Added Authorization Header flag to storyboard module https://review.openstack.org/100322 | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Adding Rakefile https://review.openstack.org/100370 | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard run over ssl https://review.openstack.org/100323 | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard projects from projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/100324 | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard superusers from yaml file https://review.openstack.org/100325 | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Storyboard token expiration increased https://review.openstack.org/100326 | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard idempotent https://review.openstack.org/100327 | 18:08 |
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| rm_work | anteaya: patch is in for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100603/ | 18:09 |
| rm_work | anteaya: and I fixed the chanserv info on my last review | 18:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Put a default section header above the TTL https://review.openstack.org/100328 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: StoryBoard module bounces apache on update https://review.openstack.org/100329 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Add Storyboard puppet module https://review.openstack.org/100321 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Added Authorization Header flag to storyboard module https://review.openstack.org/100322 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Adding Rakefile https://review.openstack.org/100370 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard run over ssl https://review.openstack.org/100323 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard projects from projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/100324 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Load storyboard superusers from yaml file https://review.openstack.org/100325 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Storyboard token expiration increased https://review.openstack.org/100326 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Make storyboard idempotent https://review.openstack.org/100327 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | craigtracey proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Octavia to Stackforge https://review.openstack.org/100576 | 18:11 |
| anteaya | rm_work: thanks voted +1 | 18:11 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: dude you know how to clog a channel | 18:11 |
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| cody-somerville | Does anybody have quick link to the infra/qa sprint mail? | 18:12 |
| clarkb | cody-somerville: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-May/001279.html | 18:13 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: sorry... | 18:15 |
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| nibalizer | im replaying history so its a bit spammy | 18:16 |
| yolanda | hi there, having a lot of bugs for new ironic tests: http://logs.openstack.org/24/99924/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic/df58fe8 | 18:16 |
| nibalizer | maybe we should hack openstackgerrit to say cchange change, and 7 more changes | 18:16 |
| yolanda | errors doesn't seem related to my work, what should i do for my change to pass? | 18:16 |
| clarkb | yolanda: devananda and adam_g would be the folks to talk to | 18:16 |
| yolanda | ok | 18:17 |
| adam_g | yolanda, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1330834 | 18:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1330834 in tempest "tempest.api.baremetal.test_ports_negative.TestPortsNegative are broken, failing all ironic tempest jobs" [Undecided,In progress] | 18:17 |
| yolanda | hi adam_g, so i wait and follow this bug, rihgt? | 18:18 |
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| adam_g | yolanda, yeah, there's a patch up now to fix it | 18:18 |
| yolanda | great, thx | 18:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Modularized StoryBoard Module https://review.openstack.org/98007 | 18:18 |
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| rm_work | who do we need to bug to get a fast-track on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100603/ ? | 18:19 |
| clarkb | rm_work: you probably won't get it fast tracked. That change requires a resstart of the meeting bot and tuesdays are meeting heavy | 18:20 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: :D | 18:20 |
| rm_work | Just need to get the bot online quickly so we can capture the activity of the next few days (there is a hackathon ongoing), since we need logs for those who are not local | 18:20 |
| rm_work | clarkb: hmm, ok | 18:20 |
| clarkb | rm_work: you can always have someone else get logs if you need them right now | 18:21 |
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| clarkb | most irc clients will do this for you | 18:21 |
| rm_work | yeah, we can look at a temporary solution then | 18:21 |
| clarkb | or maybe just have them listen in... | 18:21 |
| rm_work | yeah, I suggested they use a bouncer :) | 18:21 |
| rm_work | or just leave their computer on | 18:22 |
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| rm_work | but, logs would be good not just for now, but for posterity, since we are making decisions about future roadmap stuff in these meetings, so official is better | 18:22 |
| clarkb | rm_work: well meetings should go in the meetings channels | 18:23 |
| rm_work | but if that is not possible then it is fine | 18:23 |
| clarkb | for exactly this reason | 18:23 |
| rm_work | can we monopolize a meeting channel for three days? :P | 18:23 |
| clarkb | that isn't a meeting then... | 18:23 |
| rm_work | it's a hackathon / sub-team midcycle meetup | 18:23 |
| clarkb | oh for that I would use ml maybe? | 18:24 |
| rm_work | we have about 25 people local including PTLs | 18:24 |
| rm_work | heh | 18:24 |
| rm_work | yeah, we will try transcribing major points to the ML daily | 18:24 |
| rm_work | hopefully that will work | 18:24 |
| clarkb | if you make a big decision and need to let people know about mail is a good way to summarize and get out the important bits | 18:24 |
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| rm_work | yep | 18:24 |
| rm_work | thanks! | 18:25 |
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| anteaya | rm_work: you can log you individual irc clients and post the logs as long as folks are in agreement | 18:25 |
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| anteaya | rm_work: and are you using etherpads? | 18:26 |
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| sdague | clarkb: we seem to be taking another ES hit | 18:27 |
| sdague | time for ssd volumes? | 18:27 |
| anteaya | oh what just happened | 18:28 |
| anteaya | something just happened to nodes in delete state | 18:28 |
| ctracey | hey folks. About to propose a new project add to stackforge. 'check-projects-yaml-alphabetized' is failing in Jenkins. Is this expected? It seems to be voting. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100576/ | 18:28 |
| anteaya | hi ctracey you need to alphabetize your yaml entry | 18:29 |
| clarkb | sdague: we can't | 18:29 |
| clarkb | sdague: at least not without shutting everything down | 18:29 |
| clarkb | may need to do that anyways... hrm | 18:29 |
| ctracey | anteaya: i was confused as it looks like the rest of the yaml is not alphabetized | 18:29 |
| anteaya | nodes stuck in delete state seem to be unstuck all of a sudden | 18:29 |
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| anteaya | ctracey: yes, the test only came in recently | 18:30 |
| clarkb | sdague: but yes moving to ssd volumes may be the answer. We need more quota to have any hope at doing this without downtime | 18:30 |
| clarkb | and lost data | 18:30 |
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| anteaya | ctracey: so it only applies to new patches | 18:30 |
| sdague | clarkb: well, if we're going to take an outage, the overall health of the project is actually pretty good right now | 18:30 |
| jogo | anteaya: oh wow | 18:30 |
| sdague | so we'd want to do it when we aren't fighting hard with race bugs | 18:30 |
| clarkb | sdague: we can do this without downtime. Stop ES on a node, change mount, start ES on a node | 18:30 |
| anteaya | jogo: stuck nodes? | 18:30 |
| sdague | clarkb: ok, cool | 18:30 |
| clarkb | if we go node by node we don't lose any data. But we need more quota to do that | 18:30 |
| sdague | clarkb: gotcha | 18:31 |
| anteaya | jogo: yeah so that makes me think rax did something | 18:31 |
| jogo | anteaya: yeah the test nodes graph | 18:31 |
| jogo | anteaya: yeah thats what I was thinking too | 18:31 |
| anteaya | since when we do something the purple line stays at its upper boundary and the blue goes up | 18:31 |
| anteaya | when the purple upper boundary drops that is a host change | 18:31 |
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| anteaya | or has been so far | 18:32 |
| rcarrillocruz | hey guys, who's going to the infra/qa sprint myd-cycle? could anyone please explain a bit the focus (will it focused for PTLs / Roadmap/ Design? or will it be for bootstrapping new folks doing Infra/QA ? A bit of both? | 18:32 |
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| clarkb | sdague: alternative is shut everything down. remove existing volumes, create new ssd volumes, start cluster. But that lsoes all the data | 18:32 |
| anteaya | rcarrillocruz: bootstrapping new folks | 18:32 |
| rcarrillocruz | nice | 18:32 |
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| rcarrillocruz | then i'm interested | 18:32 |
| rcarrillocruz | thanks | 18:32 |
| jogo | anteaya: on a strange note, we don't have any patches waiting in zuul | 18:32 |
| anteaya | rcarrillocruz: and allowing us to talk to each other and put some stuff in play | 18:32 |
| anteaya | rcarrillocruz: great, would love to have more hands | 18:32 |
| * jogo does more reviews | 18:32 | |
| openstackgerrit | craigtracey proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Octavia to Stackforge https://review.openstack.org/100576 | 18:32 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: anteaya: the wiki page has a schedule that include things other than boostrapping | 18:33 |
| clarkb | but yes bootstrapping will happen too | 18:33 |
| anteaya | jogo: meaning queue length zero? | 18:33 |
| rcarrillocruz | oh | 18:33 |
| sdague | clarkb: yeh, if we can rotate through that would be best | 18:33 |
| clarkb | sdague: agreed | 18:33 |
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| * rcarrillocruz checking wiki | 18:33 | |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ any luck talking to rax about that? | 18:33 |
| anteaya | clarkb rcarrillocruz yes, I probably still have my 'this isn't about setting up your third-party system' hat on | 18:34 |
| anteaya | funny it tends to be my default hat | 18:34 |
| sdague | clarkb: while I'm thinking logstash things | 18:34 |
| sdague | would it be possible to get the approved status of the patch into the metadata? | 18:34 |
| sdague | because it occurs to me that we should have reasonably clean data in check queue on stuff that's got +A on it | 18:35 |
| clarkb | sdague: not today. It would require a zuul patch to provide jenkins with that data | 18:35 |
| clarkb | because we only know what jenkins knows | 18:35 |
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| clarkb | one way to deal with this may be to make a different "check" queue for approved things | 18:36 |
| clarkb | that check queue could also haev a higher priority than normal check queue | 18:36 |
| sdague | yeh, that seems like more complexity | 18:36 |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: do you have the link handy for the agenda? | 18:36 |
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| sdague | the approved status is in git notes, right? | 18:36 |
| sdague | or is that not until the end? | 18:36 |
| clarkb | sdague: that isn't until the end | 18:36 |
| sdague | I wonder if we could surface that in the console log | 18:36 |
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| pabelanger | afternoon. I'm seeing some issues with nodepool where the node becomes active, and the jenkins manager task runs, but jenkins doesn't actually launch on the node. Curious where I could start looking to see what is going on | 18:37 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Qa_Infra_Meetup_2014 | 18:37 |
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| rcarrillocruz | thanks sir | 18:37 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: first thing I would check is credentials for jenkins to node auth | 18:37 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: or is the node not ending up in jenkins at all? | 18:37 |
| clarkb | if it was an auth thing I would expect the node to be offline in jenkins | 18:38 |
| pabelanger | clarkb, the node registers with jenkins correctly, and goes into an offline mode. Just the job is not launch | 18:38 |
| clarkb | ya I would check auth in that case | 18:38 |
| pabelanger | ok | 18:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix groups project check failure https://review.openstack.org/100648 | 18:40 |
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| sdague | clarkb: out of random curiosity, you happen to know the cli invocation to get the review notes out. Which doesn't help with this problem, but has been a missing piece of info for me | 18:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | craigtracey proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Octavia to Stackforge https://review.openstack.org/100576 | 18:42 |
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| clarkb | sdague: that is a good question. I think gerrit puts them in a non standard location so you have to convince git to show them to you | 18:42 |
| clarkb | let me figure it out | 18:42 |
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| jogo | anteaya: meaning no patches are sitting with in queue with no jobs being run on it | 18:43 |
| reed | guys, we need your help to review https://review.openstack.org/100648 asap, it's blocking a lot of other patches | 18:43 |
| clarkb | reed: mrmartin that almost seems like the wrong approach | 18:44 |
| clarkb | cant you just point make at not github? | 18:44 |
| clarkb | you shouldn't use github | 18:44 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: we are not using now | 18:44 |
| anteaya | jogo: ah /me checks | 18:44 |
| clarkb | I thought the bug said this fails because it hits github instaed of using the current ref? | 18:44 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: this patch solves the problem, but it was just mistake that the code used that | 18:44 |
| sdague | clarkb: actually, the answer is here - http://blog.adamspiers.org/2013/10/02/more-uses-for-git-notes/ | 18:45 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: it fails because drush make tries to fetch the HEAD again | 18:45 |
| sdague | you have to fetch ref/notes/review to get it | 18:45 |
| anteaya | jogo: well three at the bottom now | 18:45 |
| anteaya | jogo: but yes, yay!! | 18:45 |
| pabelanger | clarkb, would you still expect an auth issue, if the problem is intermittent? | 18:45 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: yes, but a different issue. Maybe ssh isn't spinning up quickly enough or the connectivity between jenkins and slave is not good? | 18:46 |
| clarkb | sdague: thanks | 18:46 |
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| pabelanger | clarkb, okay, I don't see anything in nodepool logs about auth issue. Let me check the code and see what exception handling there is | 18:47 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: no I don't think its between nodepool and the node | 18:48 |
| clarkb | it would be between jenkins and the node | 18:48 |
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| pabelanger | ok | 18:48 |
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| pabelanger | clarkb, that makes more sense | 18:48 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: if nodepool fails to auth to the machine it won't be added to jenkins. Instead it will be deleted | 18:49 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: may I ask you to review this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100648/ it is blocking our community project | 18:51 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: I just asked about it | 18:51 |
| clarkb | I still don't understand how github was the problem and this fixes that | 18:52 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: the problem was not the github itself, it failed because drush make checked out the HEAD from repo, instead of using the specific ref related to the patch | 18:53 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin: right can we just set a make variable to change that? | 18:53 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: if you check this makefile: https://github.com/openstack-infra/groups/blob/master/build-groups.make it contains the github ref, enough for any remote dev to use it, but I cannot replace until the gating fails | 18:53 |
| clarkb | this feels really complicated for a simple change | 18:53 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: drush make is a bit different, I needed to add another way to build the drupal distribution from fragments instead of using the one-step drush make process | 18:54 |
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| clarkb | so you cannot set variables? | 18:55 |
| clarkb | MAKE_REPO and MAKE_REF for example? | 18:56 |
| clarkb | default to master and git.openstack.org | 18:56 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: I can, but drush make invokes the git checkout, and I don't want to rewrite this tool | 18:56 |
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| clarkb | you don't need to if you can just provide that tool a variable | 18:57 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin: the way I read this is run make to build a dist. Copy that disk into a dir then rerun make on that dist | 18:58 |
| clarkb | which somehow avoids hitting github? | 18:58 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: ok, but I don't wait to deliver a patch for a third-party tool, if I can write a simple fix which is still correct | 18:58 |
| clarkb | if the goal is to avoid hitting github why not just point at not github? | 18:58 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: does drush make not accept variables? | 18:59 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: we can avoid github, but not github the problem now, I can fix it in drupal-org.make file later, we can see the same issue with git.openstack.org | 18:59 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin: this is the file right https://github.com/openstack-infra/groups/blob/master/build-groups.make#L10 | 18:59 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: exactly, bit it won't solve our current issue | 19:00 |
| anteaya | meeting time | 19:00 |
| clarkb | ok I really don't understand the problem then | 19:00 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: can you just change that git.openstack.org and HEAD? | 19:00 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: I cannot change it, because I cannot send a patch, because the gating job fails | 19:01 |
| ianw | anteaya: yes for f20 item | 19:01 |
| anteaya | ianw: great | 19:01 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: that will ifx the gating job though right? | 19:01 |
| anteaya | here we go | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin: if that fixes the test then the gate passes | 19:01 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: replacing github to git.openstack.org won't fix this issue | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin: but changing to HEAD will | 19:01 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: no :) | 19:01 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: ok so I think there is a more fundamental issue here | 19:02 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: in our testing you should always use the local repo | 19:02 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: because the gate check must not use the HEAD, it must use the ref | 19:02 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: the tests don't do that | 19:02 |
| clarkb | HEAD is a ref in the local repo | 19:02 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: exactly, I'm telling the same | 19:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Bode proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove irc notification from puppet-openstack_dev_env https://review.openstack.org/100653 | 19:02 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: so why don't we fix that problem? | 19:02 |
| pabelanger | clarkb, that is my issue right now. The node sits around forever in a ready state, and no other nodes have the ability to run said job | 19:02 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: but what's wrong with this solution anyway: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100648/ ? This solves a problem. | 19:04 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: it is complicated and fixes it in a round about way | 19:04 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: more importantly it doesn't fix it for anyone running make locally | 19:04 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: why do you think that it is complicated? we used to use this method on local dev environments | 19:05 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: because if I clone your repo and run make it won't do what I expect | 19:05 |
| clarkb | it will test upstream code and not my local code | 19:05 |
| clarkb | if I run make in a local repo that local repo should be used every time | 19:05 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: https://github.com/openstack-infra/groups/blob/master/scripts/dev-build.sh | 19:06 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: this is exactly doing that | 19:06 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin: if that is how you are running tests locally that is what you should run in the gate | 19:07 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: then we don't even need to change the jenkins jobs when you fix things | 19:07 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: ok, but I cannot change the dev-build.sh script until I cannot fix this problem | 19:07 |
| clarkb | you don't need to change the dev-build script right? you just need to change the jenkins job to run the dev build script | 19:08 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: I need to change the dev-build script because it builds into a different directory | 19:08 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: the underlying issue here is you run tests differently in your local env than we gate on | 19:08 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: you can do that after the job is udpated | 19:08 |
| clarkb | we should fix the underlying issue | 19:08 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: ok, but now how can I modify the dev-build.sh to update the drush path to use ./drush/drush in jenkins job? and convert TARGET_DIR into a cli argument? | 19:10 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: if you setup the job in the desired configuration it will pass once you make the changes in the groups repo | 19:11 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: so step one is modifying the job, then step two is modifying groups | 19:11 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: it will fail due missing drush: http://paste.openstack.org/show/84335/ | 19:14 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: you can leave the curl to get drush in the jobs or copy that into the dev build script | 19:15 |
| clarkb | mrmartin: also it should work with the existing TARGET right? | 19:15 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: it can, just need to rewrite the tarball part to use public instead of dist | 19:16 |
| clarkb | the key thing is you want to make your local tests run exactly the same as the gate tests | 19:16 |
| clarkb | then we avoid these problems completely | 19:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Error message & notification handling https://review.openstack.org/99515 | 19:16 |
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| mrmartin | clarkb: ok I understand that, but what you think about to accept this fix temporarily, than I can deliver a more robust solution? | 19:17 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: I now it is a workaround | 19:18 |
| clarkb | I don't think we need this as a temporary fix | 19:18 |
| clarkb | you just change the job to do what it should be doing then update groups to pass in that environment | 19:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for infra bug 1326122 https://review.openstack.org/100655 | 19:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1326122 in openstack-ci "neutron-icehouse fails devstack apt-get problems" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1326122 | 19:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix groups project check failure https://review.openstack.org/100648 | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | mrmartin: thanks | 19:25 |
| mrmartin | clarkb: ok I'll patch the drupal-org.make to use git.openstack.org instead of github | 19:26 |
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| eglynn | 'evening all! | 19:43 |
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| eglynn | just wondering, does etherpad.openstack.org fall with the ambit of the os-infra group? | 19:44 |
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| clarkb | eglynn: yes | 19:45 |
| * eglynn asks coz his OPW intern has been tracking her status/progress on an etherpad, but recently it freezes on load | 19:45 | |
| eglynn | clarkb: but I think I just figured out how to recover the pad content | 19:45 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, it's working for me right now | 19:45 |
| clarkb | eglynn: that may be a known bug with etherpad if you get to a certain size | 19:46 |
| clarkb | also possibly a firefox vs chromium thing | 19:46 |
| clarkb | iirc chromium deals with the js much better | 19:46 |
| eglynn | clarkb: I'm seeing it with chrome also | 19:46 |
| eglynn | clarkb: tho' is it a large pad | 19:46 |
| eglynn | clarkb: in any case, I think the context can be recover by simply appending "/export/txt" to the path | 19:47 |
| clarkb | great | 19:47 |
| eglynn | clarkb: s/context/content/ | 19:47 |
| eglynn | sorry for the noise gentlemen! | 19:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: capture cpu information when we setup_host https://review.openstack.org/97965 | 19:50 |
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| mrmartin | SergeyLukjanov, may I ask you to review this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100648/ | 19:59 |
| sdague | eglynn-afk: is the etherpad > 800 lines? | 19:59 |
| sdague | that impacts things a lot | 19:59 |
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| chmartinez | Hello, could someone please help me and put this review in WIP (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46216/)? thanks! | 20:00 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mrmartin, I'll take a look when have a better internet connection | 20:00 |
| bodepd | Does this zuul warning just mean that no matchings projects section exists:: Project openstack-dev/sandbox not found | 20:00 |
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| clarkb | bodepd: yes | 20:01 |
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| mrmartin | SergeyLukjanov: Budapest is a great place to live and we have quite nice internet connection here | 20:01 |
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| clarkb | chmartinez: the change owner or ceilometer core can do that for you | 20:02 |
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| clarkb | chmartinez: er sorry horizon core | 20:02 |
| chmartinez | clarkb: cool. Thanks | 20:02 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mrmartin, I have an issues with only gerrit | 20:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mrmartin, 100648 approved | 20:04 |
| mrmartin | SergeyLukjanov: thank you! | 20:04 |
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| nibalizer | reed: re: mediawiki looking poor, this skin makes it look much better: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Foreground | 20:05 |
| reed | nibalizer, it's not a question of skins, I'm afraid | 20:05 |
| nibalizer | ah :( | 20:05 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Fix groups project check failure https://review.openstack.org/100648 | 20:07 |
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| reed | nibalizer, checking a site that uses that skin, it looks cool but the UI problem I mention is on the backend, this stuff is ... old https://wikiapiary.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit | 20:10 |
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| reed | and we're offtopic for this channel too | 20:10 |
| bodepd | clarkb: my best guess is that zuul was not honering layout_config | 20:12 |
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| bodepd | I ran into a few other issues that I would not have expected. Zuul does not lay down the PID file expected by the service stop command | 20:13 |
| clarkb | bodepd: it should | 20:13 |
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| clarkb | it uses the python lockfiles lib which handkles all of that | 20:13 |
| clarkb | oh you know what I should've brought dib up in the meeting oh well we ran to time anyways | 20:15 |
| clarkb | jeblair: mordred: we should probably discuss that when you have time | 20:15 |
| clarkb | specifically whether or not we should continue to hold up trusty for dib nodepool support considering the problems we have had with dib | 20:17 |
| clarkb | and probably work discussing if dib is something we should use at all | 20:17 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: oh, yeah, that sounds like something to discuss. i'm unaware of the problems or reasons why we may not want to use it. | 20:18 |
| mordred | jeblair: I can fill you in this afternoon | 20:19 |
| mordred | if we don't get to it in channel | 20:19 |
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| jeblair | mordred: cool, thx | 20:19 |
| mordred | jeblair: tl;dr - there is weirdness aroudn databases | 20:19 |
| jeblair | well, i'm only half here right now because of tc meeting, then i'm off to meet mordred and do new-hire stuff | 20:20 |
| mordred | jeblair: clarkb is also worried about iptables rules - I'm less concerned with them myself - but I think that disagreement is moot until we sort out the databases question | 20:20 |
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| jeblair | so perhaps the brief from mordred this afternoon followed by more discussion tomorrow might be best | 20:20 |
| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 20:20 |
| ianw | sdague / jeblair : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-June/001354.html (Status of check-tempest-dsvm-f20 job) <- it would be really great if i could get a overview because i'm not understanding what caused the issues & how i can help to fix it | 20:21 |
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| clarkb | oh good everyone came back | 20:21 |
| bodepd | clarkb: weird, everything works perfectly now. You probably have to gripe in irc for it to work correcrly | 20:21 |
| sdague | ianw: there is an expectation mismatch between nodepool, zuul, and me when we max our our quota | 20:22 |
| clarkb | jeblair: mordred: let me tl;dr it as it isn't super complicated. The major issue is image builds happen in chroots. This is fine until you want to start services to say setup a database or setup unbound. There is also the issue where building fedora on ubuntu may not work due to kernel compat | 20:22 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: mordred: I think the tool is good for people that are willing to spend time post boot to perform setup in a homogenous environment. We are not that user | 20:22 |
| sdague | ianw: that we need a better story on, because the behavior we were seeing was that devstack patches would stall waiting for f20 nodes, which weren't getting created, because their ratio was off | 20:23 |
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| mordred | clarkb: the fedora problem is still theory - it has not reared its head in practice | 20:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: correct, but you hit it with debian and /tmp | 20:23 |
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| mordred | clarkb: currently it's quite specifically the tool's expectation that that's a supported thing to do | 20:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: so that case is theory the overall issue is not | 20:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: right. that was a bug and was agreed to be a bug | 20:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: and a fix is being worked | 20:24 |
| mordred | it had just never been tried | 20:24 |
| mordred | there is a difference between "a thing has a bug" and "there is a fundamental flaw" is all I'm pointing out | 20:24 |
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| clarkb | sure | 20:24 |
| ianw | sdague: ok; i think that's the crux of the matter, where is the ratio set? sorry, i'm still learning nodepool, etc | 20:24 |
| clarkb | and I wouldn't characterize it as a fundamental flaw considering the dib use case | 20:25 |
| clarkb | I think it is flawed for our use case | 20:25 |
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| mordred | I still don't think it's flawed for our use case because of that | 20:25 |
| mordred | I think there was a bug | 20:25 |
| clarkb | right its the sum of the above not one thing | 20:25 |
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| clarkb | it was very clearly not meant to tackle these problems | 20:26 |
| mordred | I think it was meant to tackle these problems | 20:26 |
| mordred | but I still haven't finished my next patch because $sick | 20:26 |
| sdague | ianw: so I think we probably want to chat with jeblair about nodepool allocator, because it seems wrong that we have to manually set ratios for node types, regardless of the kinds of patches that hit zuul in a given day. And I'm wondering if there is a longer term fix to make that more dynamic. | 20:26 |
| clarkb | mordred: the fact we need that patch is the problem | 20:26 |
| clarkb | mordred: we can work around it | 20:26 |
| clarkb | the work around sucks | 20:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: the fact that we uncovered a bug in a tool is a problem? | 20:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: what bug are you talking about? | 20:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: I'm talking about the debian/ubuntu bug | 20:28 |
| clarkb | mordred: I am talking about all of the various work arounds we have had to come up with to get useable nodes | 20:28 |
| clarkb | mordred: no thats different | 20:28 |
| clarkb | sounds like an actual bug | 20:28 |
| mordred | ok. listen. can we cme back to this? | 20:28 |
| clarkb | sure | 20:28 |
| mordred | I'm also in a tC meeting | 20:28 |
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| mordred | and I'm still raging from teh infra meeting | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make GIT_BASE configurable for each project https://review.openstack.org/100547 | 20:28 |
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| ianw | sdague: where is the ratio set manually? this is different to "min-ready"? | 20:29 |
| sdague | ianw: nope, it's min-ready | 20:30 |
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| jeblair | sdague: and i don't agree that the observed behavior is a bug | 20:30 |
| sdague | jeblair: ok | 20:31 |
| jeblair | sdague: your rationale for turning it off included that you needed a devstack change merged asap to stop existing gate breakage | 20:31 |
| ianw | sdague: so one might say that f20's min ready was 5, which gives it a say X% share of the ratio, which was insufficient to keep up with the incoming reviews? | 20:31 |
| jeblair | that was all a temporal issue relating to the current state of the code, and the fact that our providers were unable to delete nodes and that nodepool itself had a bug and was not trying | 20:31 |
| sdague | jeblair: sure, but now that I understand how the situation degrades, I really don't want it coming back on for projects | 20:31 |
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| ianw | jeblair: sorry to be dense, are the logs or anything of where nodepool was not creating the f20 nodes? or was it just an absence of nodes | 20:38 |
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| jeblair | ianw: it was choosing not to create them because it needed more precise nodes and it did not have the capacity to satisfy everything it needed | 20:38 |
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| jeblair | ianw: sdague would prefer it have a diffirent algorithm under those constrained circumstances | 20:39 |
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| jeblair | ianw: i don't think it's important because once capacity is available again, it will self-correct and everything will be fine | 20:39 |
| sdague | right, which is where we disagree :) | 20:40 |
| ianw | jeblair: this is in nodepool/allocation.py? | 20:40 |
| jeblair | (and if capacity is never recovered, it doesn't matter anyway) | 20:40 |
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| sdague | because I feel that means you take a strong penalty on turn around time if you add f20 jobs to your project | 20:40 |
| sdague | especially when that project is one of the knobs we often have to tweak to recover the whole system | 20:41 |
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| jeblair | sdague: right, so what we have at the moment is the decision about whether testing f20 is worth the potential delay in results under constrained circumstances | 20:42 |
| ianw | sdague: but i don't want to be running "check experimental" all the time, because that multiples load issues running all those other jobs. but i also don't want the job to regress | 20:43 |
| jeblair | sdague: yesterday i bought the answer was "no" because of all the reasons i said | 20:43 |
| jeblair | sdague: but today, we identified the bug in nodepool that caused it to not delete nodes for, what, like a week | 20:43 |
| sdague | jeblair: sure | 20:43 |
| jeblair | sdague: and zuul currently has 0 waiting jobs | 20:43 |
| sdague | but we're also not actually at a busy point in the cycle | 20:43 |
| jeblair | sdague: so the answer may be different | 20:43 |
| sdague | and we recovered the failure rate so the round tripping is far less | 20:44 |
| sdague | http://jogo.github.io/gate/ - that's kind of as low a failure rate as we've had in a long time | 20:44 |
| jeblair | sdague: if the answer is not different, then i think we need a proposal for an allocator that behaves in the way you would like under contraint | 20:44 |
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| jeblair | sdague: i'm not certain that is easy | 20:44 |
| sdague | jeblair: right, I agree. Both on the need, and it not being easy | 20:45 |
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| sdague | it seems like germany might be an ideal time to discuss this, face to face, with white board | 20:46 |
| jeblair | (since designing for constraints is all about tradeoffs, we probably need to identify what we gain/lose with the different systems and figure out our priority) | 20:46 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that is why I think a PID loop may work well as in theory it can change priority in tradeoffs as the running system changes | 20:46 |
| jogo | sdague: don't jinx it | 20:46 |
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| sdague | jogo: I'll wear a talisman and keep the tigers away | 20:47 |
| jeblair | sdague: are you attending? | 20:47 |
| jogo | sdague: and we aren't hitting quota either | 20:47 |
| sdague | jeblair: yeh | 20:47 |
| jeblair | sdague: oh neat, i thought you had a conflict | 20:47 |
| sdague | no, things shuffled around. And given a few topics we're going to hit, germany is probably a good idea for me to be there | 20:47 |
| wenlock_ | clarkb is launchpad oid not happy today? | 20:48 |
| clarkb | wenlock_: it was working earlier for me | 20:48 |
| clarkb | it was broken over the weekend though | 20:48 |
| wenlock_ | clarkb i droped you a note in email... was hoping you could take a peak | 20:49 |
| jogo | sdague jeblair: thoughts on turning off the auto-recheck on negative reviews. So we only recheck for >=0 reviews where previous jenkins results are over 72 hours old | 20:49 |
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| sdague | jogo: as long as +A triggered it, I'd be fine with that. | 20:50 |
| jogo | sdague: you mean +W ;) and yes | 20:50 |
| sdague | jogo: meh, I'm in my old ways | 20:50 |
| sdague | +A 4evar! | 20:50 |
| jogo | you should make that a button | 20:51 |
| jogo | to wear | 20:51 |
| jogo | jeblair: thoughts? as its a zuul change? | 20:51 |
| jogo | err that last question mark wasn't supposed to be there | 20:51 |
| ianw | sdague / jeblair: just to be clear, what is the status? the job will not be enabled until the nodepool allocator is modified? | 20:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Bump up to the six 1.7.x series https://review.openstack.org/99556 | 20:57 |
| wenlock_ | clarkb yeah, restarting our gerrit clears it | 20:57 |
| jeblair | jogo: didn't i already +2 that? | 20:58 |
| jeblair | ianw: i would be willing to re-enable it now that the immediate crisis has passed. i believe sdague would rather not. i'm not willing to have a showdown with him on this one so i think we need some more consensus. | 20:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/100680 | 20:59 |
| jogo | jeblair: that was a different scenario | 20:59 |
| clarkb | wenlock_: interesting. I just popped open email and no hadn't seen that before | 20:59 |
| clarkb | wenlock_: glad you worked around it | 20:59 |
| jogo | that was don't rerun jenkins if the previous jenkins run voted -1 | 20:59 |
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| jeblair | ianw: the fix that would make sdague happy is not an easy one, so i know of no short-term thing we could do, other than move 50% of our testing to f20. | 20:59 |
| jogo | this is the use case where a human votes -1 | 20:59 |
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| wenlock_ | clarkb well... kinda... not sure i have | 21:01 |
| wenlock_ | clarkb we restart it but then try another git clone and it goes to 100% again | 21:02 |
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| adam_g | sdague, ping.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92216/2/functions.sh .. you would prefer we stuff vm logs in a subdir of $BASE/logs (ie, $BASE/logs/ironic-bm-logs/)? | 21:06 |
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| jeblair | jogo: have to run now, sorry | 21:08 |
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| sdague | adam_g: yes, exactly | 21:09 |
| mark0n | How do I need to quote curly braces in a Jenkins Job Builder file (shell section)? I tried "\{\}", '{}' and "\0x7b\0x7d". None of these work :-( | 21:11 |
| clarkb | mark0n: {{}} | 21:12 |
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| clarkb | mark0n: it uses python string substition so python escape rules | 21:12 |
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| mark0n | clarkb: thanks! | 21:13 |
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| akerr | is there a way to stop a runaway CI system on the sandbox project? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99678/ keeps spamming several times a minute and has flooded our system's email with thousands of emails today | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Archive Ironic VM nodes console logs https://review.openstack.org/92216 | 21:19 |
| clarkb | akerr: in theory that is what the repo is for | 21:20 |
| clarkb | akerr: you can always ping the email address for that account | 21:20 |
| akerr | clarkb: an infinite loop? | 21:20 |
| clarkb | and ask them to stop | 21:20 |
| clarkb | akerr: do we know it is an infinite loop? maybe they are testing soemthing? | 21:20 |
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| harlowja | lifeless did u have time to checkout comments @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98946/ ? | 21:21 |
| harlowja | *if not thats ok* | 21:21 |
| akerr | clarkb: pretty sure it's looping, its been testing the same patch set over and over for 5 hours, but I will email the account | 21:23 |
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| lifeless | harlowja: not yet, will do so soon | 21:25 |
| sdague | ok, this is a pretty awesome view that dolphm made of the gate queue depth - http://goo.gl/dFW8kd | 21:25 |
| harlowja | lifeless thx :) | 21:25 |
| sdague | yes, this was a Jan level event :) | 21:25 |
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| clarkb | mordred: when you are ready to talk again. I agree the debian thing is a bug and fixable. I was trying to get at there are mutliple things we have had to work around on top of dib that are a bit ugh | 21:31 |
| clarkb | mordred: and that is where most of my concern comes from | 21:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Disable ssh/scp password authentication during tests https://review.openstack.org/97025 | 21:40 |
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| mordred | clarkb: totally grok - and I don't disagree that there is concern to keep our eyes on | 21:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Whitelist hacking in the requirements job https://review.openstack.org/100699 | 21:49 |
| clarkb | mordred: and i think the image building problem we have is fundamentally served better with building in a real VM | 21:49 |
| clarkb | mordred: we can definitely improve that process too | 21:49 |
| mordred | clarkb: I hear that - but I'd like to try harder here, mainly because it drives me batty when someone looks at one of our tools, thinks their use case is a little too different and goes and invents largely the same thing | 21:50 |
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| mordred | clarkb: you may ultimately be right | 21:50 |
| mordred | I'm just not ready to concede that yet | 21:50 |
| clarkb | mordred: well we could use a different tool like packer | 21:50 |
| clarkb | rather than reinventing | 21:50 |
| mordred | there is an openstack tool to do the job which is _really_ close | 21:50 |
| clarkb | which may help solve the $person wants to build an image use case | 21:50 |
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| mordred | I'd like to keep hammering at it for a bit | 21:50 |
| clarkb | which I think is fine, but I definitely don't think we should make trusty depend on that | 21:51 |
| mordred | I really don't think we're that far off | 21:51 |
| sdague | so, unrelated to dib, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99333/ - appears to be working, and will drop the double indexing of console logs in grenade (completing the transition of grenade console in gate to be like devstack console in the gate) | 21:52 |
| clarkb | mordred: we are when you start considering centos 7 | 21:52 |
| mordred | clarkb: why? | 21:52 |
| clarkb | mordred: and the next distro. I really expect significant pain on each thing we want to build images for | 21:52 |
| mordred | and when did centos7 all of a sudden become an issue? | 21:52 |
| clarkb | mordred: because we have had to get away from generic puppet to specific things | 21:52 |
| mordred | I do not expect that | 21:52 |
| clarkb | mordred: well rhel7 released last week | 21:52 |
| clarkb | so centos 7 should happen rsn | 21:52 |
| mordred | I do not expect significant pain | 21:52 |
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| mordred | the redhat guys are working with dib quite a bit you know | 21:52 |
| mordred | and supporting cross-distro build is a fundamental feature of the tool | 21:53 |
| clarkb | mordred: but not when it comes to the services dance we will have to do | 21:53 |
| clarkb | mordred: and those are completely different | 21:53 |
| mordred | I do not think we have to do as much of a services dance as you think | 21:53 |
| clarkb | because systemd vs upstart. mysql and postgres being different and so on | 21:53 |
| mordred | I do not agree with what you think we need to do there | 21:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Update skip pep8 clause to use hacking https://review.openstack.org/100702 | 21:53 |
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| clarkb | mordred: do we not need to script the manual starting and stopping of DB services on sockets to seed them? | 21:54 |
| mordred | clarkb: I do not think that we need to do that | 21:54 |
| clarkb | oh | 21:54 |
| clarkb | how do we solve that problem? | 21:55 |
| mordred | I think it can all be done directly in the puppet | 21:55 |
| mordred | cleanly | 21:55 |
| clarkb | this is news to me | 21:55 |
| clarkb | I will be very excited if it is possible | 21:55 |
| mordred | sorry - I've been wanting to write the patch and show it rather tahn talk about the aptch and then watch soccer :) | 21:55 |
| mordred | which is bad on me - and then sick happened | 21:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Gaynor proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add the Openstack SDK project to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/100703 | 21:55 |
| lifeless | harlowja: ok so | 21:57 |
| lifeless | harlowja: I think we're talking past each other | 21:58 |
| harlowja | lifeless possibly, haha | 21:58 |
| lifeless | harlowja: specifically, I have no objection to marking non-taken subgraphs explicitly. | 21:58 |
| lifeless | harlowja: but your algorithm implies only one taken subgraph | 21:58 |
| lifeless | harlowja: does that help clarify? | 21:58 |
| harlowja | lifeless yes, one taken subgraph seems to be an ok assumption to start? | 21:59 |
| jogo | mordred clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100699/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100702/ | 21:59 |
| jogo | now that the second patch is approved the first needs reviews | 21:59 |
| clarkb | jogo: I don't like 100699 it encodes too much in code | 21:59 |
| harlowja | lifeless not saying this can't change someday, just gotta start somewhere vs everywhere | 22:00 |
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| jogo | clarkb: alternative propsal? | 22:00 |
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| clarkb | jogo: well hold on sdague is talkingabout it over there in qa | 22:01 |
| bodepd | job name is the things that binds gearman to zuul? which is specified as a list to a project's pipeline? | 22:01 |
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| bodepd | so if I have a job 'foo' in jenkins and : https://gist.github.com/bodepd/0cea5cfa96ac5b30e398 it should just work? | 22:02 |
| mordred | bodepd: yes | 22:02 |
| mordred | bodepd: well, also node label needs to be correct | 22:02 |
| bodepd | mordred: does the job need any special params? | 22:02 |
| bodepd | mordred: where are the docs for that? is it in the jjb docs? | 22:03 |
| lifeless | harlowja: I think its a corner case, and good design starts with general case | 22:03 |
| mordred | bodepd: zuul docs - lemme find you a link | 22:03 |
| lifeless | harlowja: in that its much less common to have to fundamentally rework things if you start that way | 22:03 |
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| clarkb | dhellmann: we only publish wheels for oslo.db? is that because it is a prerelease? | 22:04 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: iirc that is intentional | 22:04 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: yes, that's right, we only have alphas for now | 22:04 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: so that old pip won't install prerelease versions | 22:04 |
| harlowja | lifeless possibly but i imagine most users would expect that only 1 path of a conditional actually is executed, since this is what they are used to | 22:04 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: the issue is the job that checks requirements can't find it, because it is specifically skipping wheels | 22:04 |
| lifeless | harlowja: case statements don't have that property | 22:05 |
| dhellmann | and so when we try to add oslo.db to the requirements list, it looks like there is nothing released to be downloaded | 22:05 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: ya so I think that is intentional | 22:05 |
| lifeless | harlowja: to name a common conditional construct | 22:05 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: ok, so how do I make new libraries? | 22:05 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: cut a release | 22:05 |
| lifeless | harlowja: nor do for loops | 22:05 |
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| dhellmann | clarkb: this code isn't ready for a formal release yet | 22:05 |
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| clarkb | mordred: ^ did yo uconsider this in the wheels only for prerelease world? | 22:05 |
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| mordred | bodepd: the doc I was thinking of doesn't asnwer your question clearly ... but | 22:05 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: in the integration testing we test everything against git | 22:05 |
| mordred | bodepd: http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/launchers.html#zuul-gearman-protocol | 22:06 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: so I don't think it makes a difference for prereleases | 22:06 |
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| dhellmann | clarkb: projects can't add oslo.db to their requirements list until it is in the global list, though | 22:06 |
| mordred | bodepd: http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/launchers.html#gearman-jenkins-plugin | 22:06 |
| mordred | bodepd: between the two of those, you should understand everything | 22:06 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: and if it isn't in the project list, then it won't be installed for devs running tests locally | 22:06 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: ok I think we haev two desired fighting each other and one will lose | 22:06 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: yeah | 22:06 |
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| clarkb | but I can't really speak to which one should lose. I lean towards doing a release if openstack should consume the bits | 22:07 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: releases are cheap | 22:07 |
| sdague | yeh, agree with clarkb | 22:07 |
| mordred | clarkb: oh bother | 22:07 |
| clarkb | breaking end user clouds is not | 22:07 |
| lifeless | consuming without releases bad | 22:07 |
| dhellmann | sdague, clarkb : so no alpha releases of new projects? | 22:07 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: alphas are fine as we will integration test them in the gate | 22:07 |
| mordred | wait... grokking | 22:07 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: you just can't depend on an alpha | 22:07 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: but I can't release an alpha until I have a non alpha releases? | 22:08 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: I think what you said before is correct | 22:08 |
| clarkb | yes I think you need to start with a proper release | 22:08 |
| dhellmann | mordred: which? | 22:08 |
| mordred | dhellmann: for a NEW project - just make a release | 22:08 |
| mordred | because the concern with alphas and olso is breaking deployed clouds | 22:08 |
| * dhellmann bangs head on desk | 22:08 | |
| mordred | sorry | 22:08 |
| * mordred sucks | 22:08 | |
| harlowja | lifeless understood, point taken for switch statements, sooo to work this, in the spec i think what u are saying is to not have a selector, but only a boolean gate (pass, or do not pass), the do not pass case can do the ignore stuff, otherwise it can just leave the nodes under the switch avaiable for scheduling, this allows for something like switch by just letting all the gates be 'open' | 22:08 |
| mordred | but since oslo.db does not exist anywhere in the wile | 22:08 |
| dhellmann | no, no, I just thought we had all of this worked out and signed off | 22:08 |
| mordred | yeah. me too | 22:08 |
| mordred | we did not consider this case, which is why I suck | 22:09 |
| sdague | dhellmann: no, we had the old way | 22:09 |
| dhellmann | ok, so we're back to < 1.0 releases until a 1.0 and then alphas *after* a 1.0 | 22:09 |
| sdague | which became really problematic | 22:09 |
| lifeless | harlowja: right | 22:09 |
| harlowja | lifeless if thats a correct understanding, then i think it makes sense to me :) | 22:09 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: the numbers are arbitrary | 22:09 |
| harlowja | lifeless ok dokie, understand now | 22:09 |
| dhellmann | at some point, I'm just going to give up and start incrementing the major versions every time we do a release | 22:09 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: as long as you semver | 22:09 |
| sdague | dhellmann: go for it :) | 22:09 |
| harlowja | lifeless will update soon, thx :) | 22:09 |
| harlowja | makes much more sense now | 22:09 |
| * dhellmann wonders if 0.1.0 is < 1.0.0.0a1 | 22:10 | |
| mordred | dhellmann: I see nothing wrong with doing 0.x releases for oslo.db though (other than your current alpha tag) | 22:10 |
| mordred | it is | 22:10 |
| bodepd | mordred: thanks for the reference, that is exactly what I was looking for | 22:10 |
| dhellmann | mordred: ok, so we have to *delete* the existing releases from pypi and our mirror, remove those tags from the git repo so we can reuse them later, and then start tagging with 0.1.0 | 22:11 |
| clarkb | no do not delete any releases | 22:11 |
| clarkb | otherwise you will be like setuptools and people will cry | 22:11 |
| mordred | clarkb: I think it's probably fine in this case ... I'm guessing nobody has ever downloaded oslo.db yet | 22:11 |
| lifeless | you have to roll forward with published artifacts | 22:12 |
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| lifeless | mordred: ahahahahahaha. no. | 22:12 |
| lifeless | mordred: it'll be in plenty of tripleo mirrors | 22:12 |
| lifeless | mordred: bandersnatch. | 22:12 |
| mordred | oh, right. remember when I mentioned that we don't use that ... | 22:12 |
| lifeless | mordred: the special case is not special enough. | 22:12 |
| lifeless | mordred: infra don't, rest of the world is not infra. | 22:12 |
| bodepd | actually mordred what did you mean by label? do you mean that it needs to expose all of the jenkins build parameters? | 22:13 |
| mordred | lifeless: actually, bandersnatch will do the right thing | 22:13 |
| mordred | lifeless: it's required by mirrors that follow the mirror protocol that they honor deletes | 22:13 |
| dhellmann | I don't know what bandersnatch is, is that related to my question about removing those releases? | 22:13 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: yes, it is a pypi mirroring tool | 22:14 |
| mordred | dhellmann: we're having a religious debate real quick | 22:14 |
| dhellmann | ok | 22:14 |
| clarkb | mordred: I feel it would be bad to yell at setuptools one day then do it ourselves today | 22:14 |
| lifeless | mordred: ok fair enough. will any other mirroring things be sure to do tht ? | 22:14 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I totally agree | 22:14 |
| clarkb | mordred: principles and leading by example yada yada yada | 22:14 |
| mordred | lifeless: if they don't, they are in violation of the pypi mirroring protocol | 22:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: we have deleted mistake releases before | 22:14 |
| mordred | setuptools is actually different | 22:14 |
| mordred | setuptools is, well, setuptools | 22:14 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: if I don't delete the existing alphas, and the project isn't a 1.0 yet, how do I ensure that 0.1.0 is used? | 22:15 |
| mordred | judgement must be able to be used | 22:15 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: whats the highest alpha version released ? | 22:15 |
| mordred | dhellmann: how many minutes ago did you upload this/ | 22:15 |
| mordred | ? | 22:15 |
| dhellmann | 1.0.0.0a2 I think | 22:15 |
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| dhellmann | days ago | 22:15 |
| mordred | 2014-06-17 | 22:15 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: you release a 1.0.0 | 22:15 |
| dhellmann | no, today | 22:15 |
| mordred | that's when pypi says you released it | 22:15 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: that is really really not a helpful answer | 22:15 |
| mordred | seriously guys. this is not a big deal | 22:15 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: why not? the number is mostly arbitrary anyways | 22:16 |
| mordred | we ahve deleted mistake tags when they are this close to the time | 22:16 |
| mordred | oslo.db is a new project | 22:16 |
| clarkb | its the sequence of numbers that actually matters | 22:16 |
| clarkb | mordred: I won't stop you | 22:16 |
| mordred | it is NOT in use by ANYTHING | 22:16 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: not if we're doing semver, which we're trying to do | 22:16 |
| mordred | because it just got released | 22:16 |
| clarkb | mordred: but I don't think this is a problem | 22:16 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: then why are your alphas for 1.0.0? | 22:16 |
| mordred | I think dhellmann is trying to follow the instructions we gave him and there was a bug in them that we just discovered | 22:16 |
| dhellmann | I don't want this version packaged by the distros. Will they understand the distinction? | 22:16 |
| mordred | so I'd like to help him make the first release of this correctly | 22:16 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: because that's the version we will release at the end of juno | 22:17 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: if you put in in requirements you should assume it will be packaged | 22:17 |
| lifeless | clarkb: this is why pre-versioning is a headache | 22:17 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: can that be 2.0.0? | 22:17 |
| mordred | this is the reason we developed oslo alphas | 22:17 |
| mordred | can we not re-hash this entire thing? | 22:17 |
| dhellmann | this is the reason I didn't want to do alphas | 22:17 |
| mordred | we talked about it for a bout a year and a half | 22:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: sure like I said go ahead | 22:17 |
| lifeless | please tell me most oslo libraries will do semver not pre-versioned releases ? | 22:17 |
| lifeless | ok,clearly sore topic, I'll bow out. | 22:17 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I don't know what you mean. Did you read my ML thread on what we plan to do? | 22:17 |
| mordred | GAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA | 22:18 |
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| dhellmann | lifeless: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037159.html | 22:18 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I'm not an owner of the pypi resource, but you are. if you delete it from pypi and push a tag delete, I'll go remove from mirrors | 22:19 |
| mordred | luckily, I wrote a script to do that when setuptools derped | 22:19 |
| dhellmann | mordred: I'm not sure I have permission to push a tag delete, but I can try | 22:19 |
| mordred | for the record, I AM opposed to removing releases | 22:19 |
| mordred | it's just that this one does not seem like a real release that is likely to have been consumed by anyone | 22:20 |
| dhellmann | mordred: let me warn victors and roman, too | 22:20 |
| mordred | actually, it won't even be in our mirrors | 22:20 |
| mordred | because we can't get it into global-reqs :) | 22:20 |
| dhellmann | good point, it never got that far | 22:20 |
| clarkb | mordred: correct, BUT its also not hard to deal with properly | 22:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: that is true - except for the fact that dhellman quite explicitly wants to communicate that this is not ready yet | 22:21 |
| clarkb | mordred: then we shouldn't depend on it | 22:21 |
| mordred | and that's teh 1.5 year discussion | 22:21 |
| mordred | of how we deal with oslo | 22:21 |
| mordred | that I don't think we're just going to ninja change here in #infra in the middle of the afternoon | 22:22 |
| clarkb | I only put it in these terms because the requirements and mirror etc are doing their job | 22:22 |
| mordred | I know | 22:22 |
| clarkb | which is to prevent what you want to happe nfrom happening | 22:22 |
| mordred | there is a very specificly different usecase for oslo | 22:22 |
| mordred | and the design of the system blocking this, while a thing that we _do_ want for pre-releases of upcoming things | 22:23 |
| dhellmann | mordred: if I push a tag "juno-a1" to gerrit, what's likely to happen? will it build a package, be ignored, break something? | 22:23 |
| mordred | never accounted for initial releases of things not quite ready yet | 22:23 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: why do you want to release the libraries in sync with the servers? | 22:23 |
| mordred | dhellmann: uhm. we have no jobs taht will do anything for that | 22:23 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: it should be ignored as that tag doesn't match any of our *release regexes | 22:23 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: that will make it impossible to fix client libraries except every six months? | 22:23 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I really don't have time to go through that with you right now. I would be happy to discuss it on the mailing list. | 22:24 |
| dhellmann | mordred: ok, good, I just don't want to lose what we have already tagged before I delete those bad tags. | 22:24 |
| mordred | lifeless: yeah. seriously. this is one of the most argued and rehashed topics in all of openstack | 22:24 |
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| mordred | and believe me, I've argued the side that you're going to argue | 22:24 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: ok, I will reply to your thread | 22:24 |
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| mordred | lifeless: please read ALL of the history on the topic | 22:24 |
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| lifeless | mordred: you just made it too hard | 22:26 |
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| lifeless | let me just say that I'm going to be a sad panda when novaclient etc use any oslo library. | 22:26 |
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| lifeless | and leave it at that. | 22:26 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: stop being melodromatic and go reply to the mailing list thread | 22:27 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: I now have conflicting requirements from you and mordred, 2 tripleo regions down and a tonne of stuff I *have* to do. | 22:27 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I'll get back to this when I can; the implications seem to be well understood by mordred since he says he argues the point I have made above. | 22:28 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: and as already stated this is a long running plan, its not going to change overnight, and I wouldn't want to make it halt anyway | 22:28 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I don't know about conflicting requirements. | 22:28 |
| dhellmann | mordred: apparently I don't know how to (or don't have permission to) delete tags in gerrit | 22:29 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: mordred says i have to read everything; you say you want me to just reply to the thread. Time-and-space boom. | 22:29 |
| dhellmann | I did: git push gerrit :refs/tags/1.0.0a1 | 22:29 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: markmc explains some of the history in the thread | 22:29 |
| mordred | dhellmann: and nothing? | 22:29 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: so you can do both | 22:29 |
| dhellmann | mordred: You need 'Push' rights with the 'Force Push' | 22:29 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: great. if markmc has a history in the thread, then taht should be sufficient | 22:29 |
| mordred | dhellmann: gotcha. one sec | 22:29 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: if thats sufficient for you, I have read through to markmc's nov 2012 post | 22:30 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: yeah, I think that covers it | 22:30 |
| dstufft | mordred: the mirroring protocol requires it, but theres no like penality for not doing it | 22:31 |
| dstufft | but setuptools is probably a lot more used than some random alpha lib | 22:31 |
| mordred | dstufft: yah | 22:31 |
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| dhellmann | the only projects that should use oslo.db are openstack projects, and none of them can be using it because they can't include it in their requirements list yet | 22:32 |
| mordred | dhellmann: ok. tags deleted | 22:32 |
| dhellmann | mordred: thank you | 22:33 |
| dhellmann | ok, now remind me what we said about verisoning? 0.1.0? | 22:33 |
| dstufft | note: I have zero interest about arguing about oslo.db, just clarifying that although it's part of the spec there's no promises :) | 22:33 |
| dstufft | the deletion that is | 22:33 |
| dhellmann | dstufft: thanks, I think that's ok | 22:34 |
| mordred | dhellmann: yeah. 0.1.0 seems safe for this use case | 22:34 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I'm sure we'll figure out some other reason why it's not tomorrow | 22:34 |
| dhellmann | mordred: ok, I'm going to retag those juno tags as 0.1.0 and 0.2.0 then | 22:34 |
| dstufft | (interesting enough, in the futur there will actually be promises, since mirrors will need to refresh themselves regularly with signed by PyPI metadata that they can't modify) | 22:34 |
| mordred | dstufft: awesome | 22:35 |
| mordred | dstufft: actually, I'm going to argue with you about oslo.db whether you want to or not | 22:35 |
| mordred | because apparently that's who I am today | 22:35 |
| clarkb | mordred: if you end up having time I am curious to hear how you plan to do the puppet in dib stuff (or I guess you could use that time to write the patch) | 22:36 |
| dstufft | mordred: lol | 22:36 |
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| mordred | clarkb: well, step one to prove the concept at all I'm going to re-enable the service scripts in post-install and then run the puppet stuff that does the db | 22:37 |
| mordred | clarkb: and I'm going to have that stuff not just do the permissions - but do the install too (otherwise we don't get root users) | 22:37 |
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| clarkb | ok | 22:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: if that works, then I'm going to do something _similar_ to the flags we had in there already | 22:38 |
| bodepd | mordred: I was thinking about that problem. Would it make sense to boot images for service level stuff and use snapshots? | 22:38 |
| mordred | to control the listen parameter | 22:38 |
| clarkb | mordred: if you go that route you will want to try dumping the flag for no network into mysql.conf.d | 22:38 |
| mordred | bodepd: no, that's the system we're trying to get away from | 22:38 |
| clarkb | mordred: and whatever the postgres equivalent is. SO that we can run concurrent builds | 22:38 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yes | 22:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: that's step 2 | 22:38 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: I hope my mail isn't inflammatory | 22:42 |
| bodepd | someone mind having a look at this log: https://gist.github.com/bodepd/0101cd092d9f51005afb | 22:43 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: the snippy here (environmental, not pointing fingers) was a bit contagious. | 22:43 |
| bodepd | I'm missing the bread-crumb trail from gearman to jenkins | 22:43 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: yeah, it's the end of a long day and this is not what I wanted to be doing -- sorry | 22:43 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: I believe I see genuine issues, and hopefully have expressed them without too much editorial or presuming the answer | 22:44 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: I'm now going to context switch and ignore this until it pops up into my face again somehow :) | 22:44 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: I'm currently waiting for SMTP to do its thing with your message, but I'll read it before I follow-up about the new plan I wrote in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/VersioningPolicy#A_Version_Numbering_Scheme | 22:45 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: I have no issue with the issueing of alphas etc, in fact I entirely support that. Its just the interaction with requirements files of other projects, regardless of their release schedule, that concerns me. | 22:45 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: One thing I didn't put in there, but possibly should have, is that IMO its a bug to have something in requirements that isn't on regular pip. | 22:46 |
| lifeless | (specific version of, I mean) | 22:46 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: no one will ever adopt an oslo library if it is not being tested against the application, and we can't do that unless it's in the requirements list | 22:46 |
| lifeless | that is AIUI compatible with doing alpha releases | 22:46 |
| dhellmann | the use of alphas is meant to protect CD environments from seeing things that aren't fully baked, but that we're trying to integration test with the rest of a release | 22:47 |
| dhellmann | which I think is what you're saying is good? | 22:47 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: the thing about CD environments is they treat 'trunk of nova' as a release. | 22:47 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: yes, well, they'll have a wheel of the alpha that worked with that version of nova that they can use | 22:48 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: so they will have to drag in the alpha to their environment if nova depends on the alpha | 22:48 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: anyhow, you have things to do; lets follow up on mail | 22:48 |
| dhellmann | ok | 22:48 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: so you can do the thing you want to do, today :) | 22:48 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 23:06 |
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| dhellmann | what does it mean when zuul reports that something in the gate is "skipped"? | 23:14 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | dhellmann possible taht's what it does in the event of a merge conflict? | 23:15 |
| dhellmann | specifically, oslo.i18n 99054,2 | 23:15 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: if you hover your mouse over the colored balls you get the reason | 23:15 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: cool, thanks, I didn't know about that | 23:16 |
| dhellmann | Alex_Gaynor: that's exactly it | 23:16 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 23:16 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: if the ball is black, is a merge commit | 23:21 |
| sdague | I figured that was better than showing it as a fail | 23:21 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: yeah, I just hadn't seen that one before | 23:23 |
| sdague | clean check definitely reduced the amount we see it | 23:23 |
| sdague | but mass approves will trigger it | 23:23 |
| sdague | honestly, I'd rebase it on top of whatever is in front of it in the gate | 23:24 |
| sdague | then once that merges you'll be back on master | 23:24 |
| sdague | and you'll have check results back | 23:24 |
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| sdague | jogo: it's a 100+ merge day | 23:25 |
| sdague | we should have a bell that goes off after 100 merges in a day :) | 23:25 |
| jogo | sdague: hehe yeah | 23:26 |
| jogo | sdague: its hard keeping the pipelines full of work | 23:26 |
| jogo | we should be able to hit 110 by the end of the UTC day | 23:26 |
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