| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: pbr/testr_command.py: Add logging https://review.openstack.org/89203 | 00:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add the sbins to PATH https://review.openstack.org/91655 | 00:02 |
| zaro | mordred: if you would like to add anything.. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/repo-discuss/9uI7r-GnCcw | 00:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Button to display gitweb commit diff url https://review.openstack.org/92940 | 00:03 |
| clarkb | I have no idea why this isn't working but it is clearly wron | 00:08 |
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| clarkb | zaro: for some reason google redirects me to not that thread. what subject should I look for in gmail? | 00:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Normalize Gerrit ACLs https://review.openstack.org/92941 | 00:10 |
| fungi | first stab ^ | 00:10 |
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| clarkb | fungi: oh before you afk for the night | 00:11 |
| fungi | yah | 00:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: HPCloud removed the precise image we are using (well renamed it and marked it deprecated by changing the name) | 00:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: so none of our hpcloud precise image builds are going | 00:12 |
| clarkb | I have a change up to use hpcloud's partner image for precise instead because there is no non partner image for precise | 00:12 |
| clarkb | (because lol I guess public clouds don't need to have any prebaked images) | 00:13 |
| fungi | yeah, reviewed it, but curious if there was a way to confirm who the "partner" is so only left a +1 | 00:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: so how do you feel about using that image? we are told it is curated by canonical | 00:13 |
| clarkb | but in theory there isn't much enforcing that | 00:13 |
| clarkb | eg any other partner could've pushed it and we wouldn't know | 00:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: the other option is to use the depreacted image | 00:13 |
| fungi | ideally canonical would publish the uuid in each region/az | 00:13 |
| fungi | on some canonical.com or ubuntu.com website | 00:13 |
| fungi | and then we could key on that in nodepool.yaml | 00:14 |
| clarkb | fungi: I really don't want to use uuids | 00:14 |
| fungi | otherwise, i suspect it's entirely possible for anyone to upload to glance and mark an image public and use the same name | 00:15 |
| clarkb | though they encode date info in the base images so they are effectively unique | 00:15 |
| clarkb | unlike over in rax land were you just get a new image with old name | 00:15 |
| fungi | i'd be slightly more comfortable if i'd gotten around to baking tarball verification into the pypi upload job, since we build tarballs on untrusted slaves and then blindly upload them to pypi on a trusted slave at the moment | 00:16 |
| fungi | is there some guarantee that the image name is unique and can't be sniped by a random tenant? | 00:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Attempt to ignore comments from old patchsets https://review.openstack.org/92942 | 00:18 |
| clarkb | note ^ doesn't actually work and I have no idea why | 00:18 |
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| fungi | like, do we only see images in the catalog which hp placed there, or is it a free-for-all? | 00:18 |
| clarkb | fungi: its neither | 00:19 |
| clarkb | I believe the partner image name space requires unique names but anyone can write to the namespace | 00:19 |
| clarkb | so once an image is in there it shouldn't change | 00:19 |
| clarkb | we can also use uuid but that gives me a headache | 00:19 |
| fungi | okay, so as long as those images aren't deleted and subsequently replaced by another untrusted uploader, we're safe? | 00:20 |
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| clarkb | I believe so | 00:20 |
| clarkb | but I have no way of actually confirming without requesting partner image access then attempting bad things | 00:21 |
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| fungi | i know there are people at hp with far more security background and general paranoia than i have, so i'm okay trusting that they've already lost sleep over these possible risks | 00:24 |
| clarkb | well those same peoiple don't allow ssh key login | 00:24 |
| clarkb | so trust is relative :) | 00:24 |
| fungi | heh | 00:24 |
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| zaro | clarkb, mordred : try "[RFC] gpg key for user authentication" | 00:26 |
| fungi | anyway, if we need fresh images we need fresh images. approving the change for now | 00:26 |
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| clarkb | zaro: thanks | 00:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: ok, if you really want we can use the deprecated image instead | 00:30 |
| clarkb | but I need to walk home and have a whiskey now | 00:30 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: HPCloud Precise image has a new name. https://review.openstack.org/92924 | 00:31 |
| anteaya | clarkb: enjoy the walk and then whiskey | 00:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/gear: doc update: move the server usage info https://review.openstack.org/88401 | 00:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Add oslo.db and oslo.i18n to project list https://review.openstack.org/92890 | 00:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Bump sqlalchemy-migrate version to 0.9.1 https://review.openstack.org/87797 | 02:20 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Exclude netifaces versions 0.10.0, 0.10.1 https://review.openstack.org/91815 | 02:22 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Move to newer version of python-swiftclient https://review.openstack.org/76170 | 02:28 |
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| nibalizer | krotscheck: so i have storyboard up now thanks to your puppet goodness (awesomepants!) | 03:07 |
| nibalizer | i'm unable to press the 'submit' button on create story, presumably because the drop down of types or projects is empty and I haven't selected one | 03:09 |
| nibalizer | maybe i'll add a projects.yaml to it the way the openstack module does | 03:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add puppet-storyboard as a unique project https://review.openstack.org/92231 | 03:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/requirements: netifaces 0.10.2 didn't fix all build errors https://review.openstack.org/92967 | 04:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add distro check functions for Ubuntu and Fedora https://review.openstack.org/92748 | 04:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Changes for Fedora log layout https://review.openstack.org/92973 | 04:42 |
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| ianw | clarkb: http://logs.openstack.org/86/81486/3/experimental/experimental-devstack-tempest-dsvm-f20/e46a865/logs/ <- are those logs really duplicated, or is apache just not showing links? | 04:57 |
| clarkb | ianw: I don't understand the question | 04:58 |
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| clarkb | I see a bunch of files (including those you shouldn't be archiving) | 04:58 |
| ianw | clarkb: yeah, all the screen-* files | 04:59 |
| clarkb | they are copied | 04:59 |
| clarkb | but they should be renamed and the dated files should not be copied | 04:59 |
| ianw | that's what i thought ... something to look into | 05:00 |
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| clarkb | usually devstack gate copies the non dated files into the jenkins workspace and renames them to .txt fiels and gzips them | 05:01 |
| clarkb | ianw: also did you see my comment on the journalctl thing? | 05:01 |
| ianw | clarkb: yep, just commenting. the journal output is is syslog format | 05:02 |
| ianw | it's /var/log/messages really ... just we can avoid the stopping rsyslog moving & files part to get a clean log from a particular time | 05:03 |
| * clarkb is partial to doing it the unixy way | 05:03 | |
| clarkb | its clear and behavior won't change on the next systemd/journalctl release | 05:04 |
| clarkb | (files are handy) | 05:04 |
| clarkb | but my bigger concern is making sure we index the data | 05:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add os-cloud-config to global requirements https://review.openstack.org/92977 | 05:05 |
| ianw | clarkb: the last thing i want is a systemd argument :) but it is there and does make it handy to get the logs | 05:06 |
| ianw | if it has one killer app, it's that the timestamps look more like the rest of openstack's timestamps, rather than the silly syslog format | 05:06 |
| clarkb | ianw: :P ya the grabbing of a timestamp to avoid system stop start is handy | 05:06 |
| clarkb | oh that might break indexing (I would have to look at the current timestamp parsing) | 05:07 |
| ianw | clarkb: sorry, default is the status quo -- but it has output format options for sane timestamps | 05:07 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 05:08 |
| clarkb | so ya if we can make the filename match up so that we don't have to change a bunch of things elsewhere then we get indexed logs for free | 05:08 |
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| clarkb | ianw: I am looking at cleanup host log for that job to figure out why things don't get renamed and zipped properly | 05:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Changes for Fedora log layout https://review.openstack.org/92973 | 05:13 |
| clarkb | rename: not enough arguments is breaking the txt -> gzip | 05:13 |
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| ianw | clarkb: yep just noticed (http://logs.openstack.org/86/81486/3/experimental/experimental-devstack-tempest-dsvm-f20/e46a865/logs/devstack-gate-cleanup-host.txt) | 05:15 |
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| clarkb | right towards the end is the rm that attempts to delete the extra files but that seems to fail because the rename didn't do what I expected it to do | 05:18 |
| ianw | clarkb: well there you go, rename is different on fedora to debian/ubuntu. i did not know that! | 05:18 |
| clarkb | huh | 05:18 |
| reed | heading to Atlanta, see you there folks | 05:18 |
| ianw | rename [ -v ] [ -n ] [ -f ] perlexpr [ files ] <- debian | 05:18 |
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| ianw | rename [options] expression replacement file... <- fedora | 05:18 |
| clarkb | ianw: maybe we should switch to find execing mv? | 05:19 |
| clarkb | that should be portable everywhere | 05:19 |
| ianw | clarkb: yeah ... well that's something i learnt today :) | 05:21 |
| clarkb | me too | 05:21 |
| ianw | clarkb: i'll work up a review on that, may not get it out for a little though | 05:24 |
| clarkb | thats fine. I am about to call it a day myself | 05:24 |
| clarkb | (otherwise I would approve that other change of yours to add is_ubuntu and is_fedora functions) | 05:25 |
| clarkb | will do that tomorrow | 05:25 |
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| ianw | clarkb: thanks ... getting closer step by step :) | 05:26 |
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| mattoliverau | Well I'm done for the day and flying to Atlanta tomorrow, so have a great weekend all, and if your in Atlanta next week, I hope we get to meet :) | 07:23 |
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| derekh_ | opps, I thought I did that ^^ a week ago | 08:43 |
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| eglynn | good morning gentles! | 09:33 |
| eglynn | quick question if anyone is around? | 09:33 |
| eglynn | how do I go about getting a new repo created under https://github.com/openstack | 09:33 |
| eglynn | ? | 09:33 |
| * eglynn needs to set up a https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer-specs repo | 09:34 | |
| eglynn | ... along the lines of https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs | 09:34 |
| eglynn | ... i.e. for ceilo blueprints to be reviewed via gerrit | 09:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Arx Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add zeromq config https://review.openstack.org/93030 | 12:42 |
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| fungi | eglynn: https://review.openstack.org/91723 | 13:21 |
| phschwartz | morning | 13:21 |
| eglynn | fungi: cool, yeah, I've been poking at the corresponding patch for tripleo-specs | 13:21 |
| fungi | eglynn: oh, good, then you found an example already (there have been plenty of late) | 13:22 |
| fungi | phschwartz: _good_ morning (i assume, having not gotten through all my coffee yet) | 13:22 |
| eglynn | fungi: yep, there are a few recent examples all right, I'm getting my head around the process ... thanks! | 13:22 |
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| fungi | eglynn: if you have any questions, let me know | 13:25 |
| eglynn | fungi: will do, thanks! | 13:25 |
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| sdague | fungi: got a sec for a d-g review? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92900/ | 13:49 |
| sdague | needs a second +2, I think it should be fine | 13:49 |
| fungi | sdague: what's the argument against making that the new default in devstack (so that a default-configured devstack can have large-ops tests run on it)? | 13:51 |
| fungi | jogo: ^ ? | 13:51 |
| dansmith | fungi: largeops is fine, | 13:51 |
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| dansmith | fungi: we're trying to push the limits with an experimental test, which is running out because we're creating hundreds of vms | 13:51 |
| fungi | dansmith: oh, so probably not something which will actually be leveraged by a production job? | 13:52 |
| dansmith | fungi: changing the default in devstack is fine with me, if you'd prefer, but I thought that the d-g uses a different setting than the default anyway | 13:52 |
| dansmith | fungi: we don't know how high we want the production job to actually end up, which is why I added the largeops-testing job to probe that limit, | 13:53 |
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| dansmith | fungi: and we can't get much higher than what we have now without raising this limit to enable testing | 13:53 |
| fungi | we try to keep devstack-gate as close to default devstack as possible. preferably devstack-gate should take care of the test framework (branch selection, log collection) bits and leave devstack configuration to devstack where possible, just making sure this is one of those times where it shouldn't be a devstack default | 13:53 |
| dansmith | right, but isn't d-g overriding the default already? | 13:54 |
| sdague | fungi: yeh, I think there is a bigger question of renormalizing later. The d-g job uses 10.1 instead of 10.0, I suppose that's because something in our providers? | 13:54 |
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| fungi | sdague: yeah, that's a workaround for hpcloud's eth1 interface configuration colliding with devstack | 13:54 |
| sdague | which means we need to live with a different value anyway. | 13:55 |
| fungi | dansmith: it is. like i said we're trying to not override devstack any more than we absolutely have to (for times where we need a job to do something which doesn't make sense as a devstack default). it's entirely possible this is one of those times, just making sure i ask before approving | 13:55 |
| dansmith | fungi: should we increase the default size in devstack, even though it's a different subnet so that they match? | 13:56 |
| fungi | dansmith: that's more or less the question. could be done in a different change later, but ultimately we would like more of the variables there to become devstack defaults and get removed from devstack-gate at some point, if possible | 13:57 |
| fungi | and yes, right now this is just tweaking values we're already overriding, so i'm fine with approving | 13:57 |
| sdague | I think we used to default to a /20, and it was reduced because there are a few calls which operate on the fully populated fixed ip table which were slow | 13:57 |
| sdague | but that's only a vague memory | 13:57 |
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| dansmith | oh, right | 13:58 |
| fungi | certainly makes sense. also worth keeping an eye on whether this causes slowness on other jobs, in which case we might need to set this on the large-ops job only or something | 13:58 |
| dansmith | inserting 4k addresses into the DB one by one | 13:58 |
| sdague | yeh, the stubbing the whole namespace out in the db is something that remains to be addressed | 13:59 |
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| dansmith | hmm, now that I think of it, | 14:00 |
| dansmith | we could be doing this in the job itself right? | 14:00 |
| dansmith | so that only largeops-testing gets the larger subnet? | 14:00 |
| dansmith | I forget how all these pieces go together | 14:00 |
| sdague | I don't think so, because it's using a basic devstack, and just a tempest tag | 14:01 |
| sdague | it's not really doing custom setup beyond that | 14:01 |
| fungi | i think we could set the original values as defaults and expose envvars which we could pass down from the builder macro through the wrap script | 14:02 |
| fungi | which would make it possible to set these higher values just on jobs that need them | 14:02 |
| fungi | unless i'm missing something | 14:02 |
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| fungi | but first let's not overengineer for a problem we're not sure we have | 14:03 |
| sdague | yeh, lets just do this one first | 14:03 |
| sdague | then figure out if we need more nobs | 14:03 |
| dansmith | so, the good news is.. | 14:04 |
| fungi | check-dg-tempest-dsvm-full-reexec ran in 1h 05m 22s so this doesn't seem appreciably slower | 14:04 |
| dansmith | before the nova-network refactor, we were often failing to create 100 instances in a go | 14:04 |
| dansmith | now, we slammed through 175 in record time before we ran out of IPs | 14:04 |
| sdague | nice | 14:05 |
| fungi | pretty awesome | 14:05 |
| fungi | yay performance | 14:05 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: do you know if the html output from qa-specs get published anywhere? | 14:10 |
| mtreinish | I know we get the docs-draft link from the job, but I'm wondering about after it merges | 14:10 |
| fungi | mtreinish: i believe there was still a todo item to build a specs.openstack.org site to publish them into | 14:11 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: so for now, unrendered publication in cgit. it's what's for dinner | 14:12 |
| mtreinish | ah, ok thanks | 14:12 |
| mtreinish | or github which renders the rst | 14:12 |
| fungi | yeah | 14:12 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ^^^ | 14:13 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish, fungi: ok, thank you | 14:15 |
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| Ajaeger | Hi infra team, could anybody remove fungi's great patch for developer.o.o, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92493/ We'd like to see the side live today... | 14:31 |
| Ajaeger | s/remove/approve/ ;) | 14:31 |
| fungi | Ajaeger: approved, as it is very, very trivial and easy to switch back or troubleshoot if something's not yet quite right | 14:32 |
| fungi | i'll be around all day, so let me know as soon as you can tell whether it's doing what you need | 14:32 |
| annegentle | heh not remove! :) | 14:33 |
| annegentle | thanks fungi and Ajaeger | 14:33 |
| annegentle | has anyone reported the error with Contact info getting stored in gerrit yet? http://dropcanvas.com/3u072/1 | 14:34 |
| fungi | annegentle: no, when did that start? | 14:34 |
| Ajaeger | thanks fungi! | 14:35 |
| annegentle | fungi: 30 mins ago in #openstack | 14:35 |
| annegentle | fungi: just got an email asking me what's up | 14:35 |
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| annegentle | fungi: shall I have him report a bug against openstack-ci in Launchpad? | 14:35 |
| Ajaeger | fungi: that's why we ask early ;) | 14:35 |
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| annegentle | Ajaeger: no kidding :) | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Publish API/CLI/SDK site to developer.o.o https://review.openstack.org/92493 | 14:35 |
| fungi | annegentle: we used to hack up the error message so it would say "make sure you've registered as a foundation member and check that your primary e-mail address in gerrit matches your preferred e-mail address in your foundation profile" but it's not actually configurable in gerrit so we lost that when we upgraded to 2.8 | 14:36 |
| annegentle | ah ok | 14:36 |
| fungi | now it just says "cannot store contact information" rather unhelpfully | 14:36 |
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| fungi | annegentle: so yes, probably a bug saying that the error message is vague since the upgrade, once the user confirms whether or not they're actually set up to match between foundation profile and gerrit preferences | 14:37 |
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| annegentle | fungi: got it, conveyed it, won't log a bug yet | 14:41 |
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| danpb | can anyone tell me the name of the group(s) that lists bot accounts in gerrit ? I've found "Third-Party CI" and "Non-Voting Third-Party CI", but what about the non-3rd party bots ? | 14:59 |
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| abettadapur | Hello | 15:01 |
| abettadapur | I am having trouble signing the ICLA | 15:01 |
| fungi | danpb: they vary, but we should probably add them all to Non-Interactive Users | 15:01 |
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| abettadapur | The system is not accepting my contact information | 15:01 |
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| cody-somerville | danpb: 'Continuous Integration Tools' ? | 15:01 |
| fungi | abettadapur: have you signed up as a member of the openstack foundation and set a preferred e-mail address in your foundation profile? | 15:02 |
| abettadapur | fungi: yes i have | 15:02 |
| fungi | abettadapur: and that e-mail address matches the primary e-mail address in your gerrit settings? | 15:02 |
| abettadapur | fungi: one second | 15:02 |
| Ajaeger | fungi: http://developer.openstack.org/ is live - thanks! | 15:02 |
| fungi | Ajaeger: great! | 15:03 |
| danpb | cody-somerville: hmm, doesn't seem to have any members in it | 15:03 |
| fungi | cody-somerville: that group actually has some permissions, though i'll need to go digging in acls to see what they are/were | 15:03 |
| abettadapur | fungi: where are the gerrit settings? | 15:03 |
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| fungi | abettadapur: the gerrit settings being the e-mail address you have selected as primary on your contact page you're trying to submit | 15:04 |
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| abettadapur | fungi: then yes | 15:04 |
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| fungi | abettadapur: merely pointing out that the e-mail address on that page needs to match the preferred e-mail address on your openstack foundation profile, which is one of the potential causes of that error | 15:05 |
| annegentle | thanks fungi! | 15:05 |
| fungi | annegentle: you bet! | 15:05 |
| fungi | abettadapur: i'll test real quick and make sure that the interface itself hasn't lost contact with the foundation member database | 15:05 |
| abettadapur | fungi: thanks | 15:05 |
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| fungi | cody-somerville: oh, i remember. continuous integration tools is the group we use to grant the "jenkins" (really zuul) user the ability to -2/+2 verify and submit changes to merge | 15:06 |
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| fungi | cody-somerville: i think non-interactive users probably needs to include things like the welcome message account, elastic recheck, et cetera | 15:07 |
| fungi | danpb: ^ | 15:07 |
| fungi | (though it doesn't today) | 15:07 |
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| fungi | abettadapur: yeah, it looks like the interface to the foundation member database may be offline. i'll get in touch with the foundation sysadmins about it and let them know | 15:09 |
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| abettadapur | fungi: thank you. would you ping me when they get it back up? | 15:09 |
| fungi | abettadapur: i definitely will | 15:10 |
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| abettadapur | fungi: much appreciated | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/gear: Remove print statement https://review.openstack.org/93057 | 15:11 |
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| danpb | doh, the wiki doesn't permit you to upload plain text files ?!?! ".txt" is not a permitted file type. Permitted file types are png, gif, jpg, jpeg, svg, pdf. | 15:12 |
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| fungi | danpb: yep, discovered that a couple days ago when i tried to upload the key signing participants list | 15:17 |
| fungi | next time Ryan_Lane's around we should ask him if it's that way for any particular reason, or if it's safe to enable | 15:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make neutron full job voting (neutron gate only) https://review.openstack.org/88289 | 15:21 |
| danpb | fungi: i think it is just the default out of the box mediawiki setting IIRC | 15:21 |
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| pep | hi, I can't update my contact information in gerrit - which isn't letting me 'git review' | 15:28 |
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| fungi | pep: we're aware--the connection from gerrit to the foundation member system seems to be broken at the moment. i've e-mailed the sysadmins for that site to have them look into it | 15:28 |
| fungi | pep: i can let you know in here once it's working again | 15:29 |
| pep | doing some research it seems like this could be caused because I switched my email address in launchpad | 15:29 |
| pep | ah ok | 15:29 |
| pep | thanks | 15:29 |
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| pep | thought it was me doing something wrong :) | 15:29 |
| anteaya | pep if you can log into your gerrit account changeing your email address in launchpad shouldn't be the cause of the issue | 15:30 |
| anteaya | the launchpad account is used to sign into gerrit (and wiki and summit pages and maybe other things) | 15:31 |
| pep | right - it's just that trying to find what was wrong I found logs from this channel describing a similar problem caused by changes in lp settings | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | that can cause an issue with people being able to have ownership over their own patches | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | because changing something in their launchpad account resulted in two gerrit accounts | 15:34 |
| anteaya | so we have to check the db, well fungi does, and consoldate the accounts | 15:34 |
| pep | ok. not planning to change the preferred email address again in the near future | 15:34 |
| anteaya | kk | 15:34 |
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| anteaya | the two accounts thing shows up when folks can't access all expected actions on their patches | 15:35 |
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| krotscheck | nibalizer: Awesome, glad to hear it worked. | 15:40 |
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| krotscheck | nibalizer: I don’t suppose you can give me a quick braindump on what it would take to switch my project out to something that can be put on puppetforge? | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Normalize Gerrit ACL documentation https://review.openstack.org/93064 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a script to normalize Gerrit ACLs https://review.openstack.org/93065 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Strip/condense whitespace and sort Gerrit ACLs https://review.openstack.org/93066 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Get rid of unneeded refs/tags create in Gerrit ACLs https://review.openstack.org/93067 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove active project.state in Gerrit ACLs https://review.openstack.org/93068 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Strip *.owner Administrators from Gerrit ACLs https://review.openstack.org/93069 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Sort exclusiveGroupPermissions in Gerrit ACLs https://review.openstack.org/93070 | 15:44 |
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| anteaya | ha ha ha | 15:46 |
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| sdague | ttx: glance has managed to get 2 sessions into the same block on the schedule - http://junodesignsummit.sched.org/ | 15:48 |
| sdague | thursday at 9am | 15:48 |
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| bnemec | So this draft review Jenkins loop thing - it's being looked at, but not fixed yet, right? Would anyone object to me sending something to openstack-dev to let everyone know not to comment on draft changes? | 15:50 |
| anteaya | bnemec: I have no objection | 15:51 |
| anteaya | actually "Don't use drafts" would be a good message to send | 15:52 |
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| anteaya | we keep sending that message | 15:52 |
| Mithrandir | maybe.. turn them off? | 15:52 |
| ttx | sdague: fixing | 15:52 |
| anteaya | in 2.9 drafts go away | 15:52 |
| fungi | bnemec: yes, it seems the issue has to do with commenting on old patchsets of open changes where the patchset has no jenkins vote on it for >72 hours and there is a newer patchset uploaded already | 15:52 |
| sdague | ttx: there is also a 2nd instance of it later, again, glance | 15:52 |
| fungi | bnemec: which also means commenting on the most recent visible patchset of a change which has a more recent patchset in draft can also trigger teh same behavior | 15:53 |
| fungi | Mithrandir: when gerrit 2.9 is released and we can upgrade to it, we'll finally be able to turn them off | 15:53 |
| sdague | fungi: was there a permissions hack to disable people being able to create drafts? | 15:53 |
| fungi | Mithrandir: we've toyed with a number of possible ways to neuter drafts in current gerrit releases, bit they were even more distasteful than the attractive nuisance presented by drafts | 15:54 |
| fungi | sdague: pretty sure that particular hack got ruled out, but i don't recall the details | 15:54 |
| Ajaeger | fungi: Do we have itstools installed on our gate machines? | 15:54 |
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| Mithrandir | attractive nuisance? | 15:54 |
| fungi | Ajaeger: is that the package name on ubuntu precise? | 15:54 |
| Mithrandir | *confused* | 15:54 |
| fungi | Mithrandir: people have misconceptions about how drafts work, and then try to use them, to a variety of amusing ends | 15:55 |
| anteaya | fungi: going over your changes to gerrit.rst - can we hide the system and usg cla in 2.8? | 15:55 |
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| bnemec | Plus it means I can't -2 their changes. :-) | 15:55 |
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| Mithrandir | fungi: I know, so I suggest making it an error to submit something that's a draft | 15:55 |
| Mithrandir | fungi: it sounds like a pretty simple thing to do | 15:55 |
| Ajaeger | fungi: It's the upstream package name, didn't check Ubuntu. I don't see it in config referenced, so I assume it's not availabe. | 15:55 |
| sdague | oh, what about a client side fix? | 15:55 |
| BobBall | http://junodesignsummit.sched.org/popular#.U2z6PHLGc7w I love how lunch gets less popular as the week goes through... Admittedly lunch on Monday isn't a popular thing, but clearly by the time people get to Friday they won't want to eat. | 15:55 |
| sdague | change git review to let the project specify that you can't use drafts | 15:56 |
| sdague | as a param in .gitreview | 15:56 |
| anteaya | BobBall: ha ha ha | 15:56 |
| bnemec | fungi: anteaya: Okay, thanks for the update. I'll draft an e-mail to the list and you can correct any mistakes I make. :-) | 15:56 |
| ttx | sdague: fixed | 15:56 |
| anteaya | bnemec: thank you | 15:56 |
| bnemec | Oh, I swear that pun wasn't intended. | 15:56 |
| sdague | ttx: cool | 15:56 |
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| bnemec | I guess I just have "draft" on the brain right now. :-) | 15:56 |
| ttx | looks ok | 15:56 |
| sballe__ | I have problems with entering my contact info in https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact | 15:57 |
| sballe__ | Any help will be greatly appreciated | 15:57 |
| fungi | Mithrandir: i'm not quite sure how we'd "make it an error to upload a draft" without altering gerrit source (which is already accomplished upstream, we just need a new release and another upgrade) | 15:57 |
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| anteaya | bnemec: draft as in beer is fine | 15:57 |
| Mithrandir | fungi: well, yes, I'd do it by changing the source. :-) | 15:57 |
| sballe__ | I am gettign the following error: Code Review - Error | 15:57 |
| sballe__ | Server Error | 15:57 |
| sballe__ | Cannot store contact information | 15:57 |
| fungi | Mithrandir: yep, already done | 15:57 |
| Mithrandir | but if it's done upstream, I'll be quiet. :-P | 15:57 |
| anteaya | sballe__: yes, the foundation db link is down | 15:58 |
| anteaya | sballe__: we have word into the foundation db systems admin and hope to hear it is back up soon | 15:58 |
| sballe__ | anteaya, ok. good to know. Any ETA on when it will be back up? | 15:58 |
| sballe__ | anteaya, ok thx | 15:58 |
| anteaya | unfrotunately no | 15:58 |
| anteaya | we have to wait until we hear back | 15:58 |
| fungi | sballe__: i haven't heard back from them | 15:58 |
| fungi | i assume they changed something which broke the api endpoint gerrit's supposed to be submitting into | 15:59 |
| anteaya | my lunch is ready and shall eat, back in a bit | 15:59 |
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| Ajaeger | anteaya: enjoy! | 16:00 |
| fungi | Ajaeger: how would it normally be installed? is it python tool available on pypi? if so, we can just make sure tox adds it to the virtualenv for your job | 16:00 |
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| Ajaeger | fungi: Let me figure it out - thanks | 16:01 |
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| fungi | Ajaeger: cool. ftr i don't see it on packages.ubuntu.com or pypi.python.org/pypi | 16:02 |
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| Ajaeger | fungi: I see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/itstool | 16:03 |
| fungi | Ajaeger: great! i was searching for it with the spelling you provided | 16:03 |
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| Ajaeger | fungi: sorry ;( | 16:03 |
| fungi | i'll see if we've already got that on bare-precise nodes, but we probably need to add it to the jenkins puppet module'params.pp | 16:04 |
| fungi | jenkins puppet module's params.pp | 16:04 |
| Ajaeger | fungi: ok, thanks! | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add more fixed ips https://review.openstack.org/92900 | 16:07 |
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| clarkb | morning | 16:08 |
| fungi | Ajaeger: i just confirmed that the itstool package is definitely not installed on our bare-precise nodepool nodes at the moment, so it'll need to be added to the list in puppet | 16:10 |
| clarkb | fungi: sdague: reading sb. a /20 is a fairly large broadcast domain no? | 16:11 |
| fungi | it is, for sure | 16:11 |
| fungi | curious to see what that does to the vswitch and to arp tables | 16:12 |
| fungi | base, broadcast and 4094 addresses | 16:13 |
| fungi | on the other hand, i wouldn't be surprised if some providers (and private clouds) configure flat switched nova networks of that size | 16:14 |
| clarkb | sdague: fungi: the drafts permissions hack was to prevent any group pushing to refs/for/drafts in the ACLs. Except it turns out that Gerrit ignores ACLs on refs/for/drafts in <=2.8. The fix in 2.9 that allows us to disable drafts is using the ACL hack iirc which works correctly in 2.9 | 16:16 |
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| sdague | clarkb: what would you think about client side restriction? | 16:16 |
| clarkb | its amazing how drafts are grafted into gerrit such that nothing works | 16:16 |
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| clarkb | sdague: it may help, but I know there are people that don't git review | 16:17 |
| fungi | sdague: client-side restriction would be incomplete, and slow to roll out | 16:17 |
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| sdague | fungi: it would, however it would catch some folks | 16:17 |
| sdague | especially new ones | 16:17 |
| sdague | I think most people use drafts because they dont' understand them | 16:17 |
| clarkb | we could do something along the lines of "We will forcibly publish any drafts that exist every hour" | 16:17 |
| fungi | not if they're using distro-packaged git-review it wouldn't | 16:17 |
| clarkb | and make the feature useless to committers | 16:18 |
| clarkb | then have a cron/daemon that publishes drafts for people :) | 16:18 |
| sdague | fungi: sure, though even then we tell people there is a new git-review, right? | 16:19 |
| sdague | it's one of those things which wouldn't fix it 100% on release | 16:19 |
| sdague | but it would incrementally do so over time | 16:19 |
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| fungi | sdague: no, that has been removed in master (maybe in the last release too) and distro packagers also disable that noise in older releases | 16:19 |
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| fungi | and pip installing a newer git-review over the distro-packaged one is also an invitation to breakage | 16:21 |
| clarkb | fungi: wait that is the prescribed install method | 16:21 |
| sdague | I think we tell people to pip install it still, but so it is | 16:21 |
| fungi | i mean over top of | 16:21 |
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| fungi | user installs git-review from distro, git-review complains that version is outdated, user installs git-review from pip over top of distro package, distro is later updated, files get replaced, fun ensues | 16:22 |
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| fungi | (which is why i believe the distro packagers were silencing that notice in the first place) | 16:23 |
| clarkb | oh I didn't realize people were installing it from the distro in the first place | 16:23 |
| clarkb | but I may have simply learned habits from 2 years ago that are less necessary today | 16:23 |
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| fungi | i'd rather see people consuming from distros now that its stabilized for a couple years | 16:34 |
| fungi | unless they're the sort of people who explicitly grok pip/pypi, virtualenvs and so on | 16:34 |
| fungi | i install it with pip (from pypi or master or proposed patches) but only into a virtualenv. i don't pip-install things system-wide | 16:35 |
| clarkb | woot(ish) I have printed out a checksum verified key list. But my printer could use new toner | 16:35 |
| clarkb | maybe I will go into the office today just to print there | 16:35 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: well done | 16:36 |
| fungi | yeah, it dawned on me after i built it that i have to borrow christine's printer because i print so infrequently i finally got rid of my old laser printer | 16:36 |
| mengxd | Anyone knows how to save contact info for the gerrit account? I tried many times but failed. | 16:36 |
| clarkb | fungi: same, though I still haven't decided if I like one "global" virtalenv for utilities or many individual ones named appropriately | 16:36 |
| anteaya | do they hide the printer in a tiny refrigerated room? | 16:36 |
| anteaya | on a tilted table? | 16:36 |
| clarkb | anteaya: no the printer is about the size of a car so hard to hide | 16:37 |
| fungi | mengxd: it's broken. i'm trying to get ahold of the sysadmins who manage the foundation membership system to look into it | 16:37 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: how fast can it print 1 copy of something? | 16:37 |
| clarkb | currently I have a nova_venv and a glanve_venv and so on | 16:37 |
| mengxd | fungi: thanks. Is there any bug opened for it? | 16:37 |
| clarkb | anteaya: very fast in color and it can scan stuff and send it via fax or email | 16:37 |
| anteaya | 10 minuts of warmup time, 0.001 seconds of print time? | 16:37 |
| anteaya | cool | 16:38 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: its basically an all in 1 dead tree processor | 16:38 |
| fungi | smarcet: do you happen to have an easy way to reach jimmy? (or do you know if he's around today?) i've e-mailed him and todd on a rather urgent breakage we need looked into from the www site/tipit side | 16:38 |
| anteaya | do they have a conveyor to take the logs? | 16:38 |
| clarkb | anteaya: sadly no, this require some preprocessing | 16:38 |
| fungi | mengxd: i'll see if anyone's opened one on it yet | 16:38 |
| clarkb | fungi: mengxd there is one /me looks | 16:39 |
| anteaya | used to work for a logger, would be cool to load the logs with a dozer into the printer and out comes copies | 16:39 |
| clarkb | bug 1317957 | 16:39 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb | 16:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317957 in openstack-ci "Server error when updating contacts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317957 | 16:39 |
| mengxd | thanks | 16:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: I wish there was a way to do this without the dead trees but it really does make it easier | 16:40 |
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| fungi | #status alert New contributors can't complete enrollment due to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317957 (Gerrit is having trouble reaching the Foundation Member system) | 16:40 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: sending alert | 16:40 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317957 in openstack-ci "Server error when updating contacts" [Undecided,New] | 16:40 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: New contributors can't complete enrollment due to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317957 (Gerrit is having trouble reaching the Foundation Member system) | 16:42 | |
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| anteaya | fungi clarkb so looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93064/1/doc/source/gerrit.rst is there anyway to hide system cla and usg cla with gerrit 2.8? | 16:43 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: that is a good question | 16:44 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: finished sending alert | 16:44 |
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| clarkb | reading https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/Documentation/config-cla.html I don't think so | 16:45 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Now we have consistent topic on all channels | 16:45 |
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| clarkb | it says the section name will appear in the web ui | 16:45 |
| clarkb | and I don't see a way to explicitly hide a cla | 16:45 |
| fungi | YorikSar: yes, that's what the statusbot does. once the issue is resolved we clear the alert and the topics go back to what they were previously | 16:45 |
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| YorikSar | fungi: Ah... And what about meeting channels? What topic will be set there? | 16:46 |
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| fungi | YorikSar: it looks like statusbot and meetbot may fight over channel topics there. we should probably add a feature to exclude meeting channels from topic modification in statusbot | 16:47 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Yeah... It won't last there anyway. | 16:48 |
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| anteaya | the topic in meeting-alt is in need of update | 16:49 |
| anteaya | clarkb: hmmmm, okay, here's hoping for 2.9 | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: we may need to add a feature to that config to say hidden = True or similar that removes it from the UI | 16:50 |
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| clarkb | sdague: what do you think about the inline comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92748/3 ? | 16:54 |
| anteaya | clarkb: hmmmm, that would be interesting to explore | 16:55 |
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| anteaya | since we have no decrease in new contributors | 16:55 |
| clarkb | the author didn't -1 so I am tempted to +2 +A, but if I left that comment I ropobably would've -1'd | 16:55 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: we also don't see people signing the wrong CLA that often | 16:55 |
| clarkb | is annoying to fix when it happens though | 16:55 |
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| anteaya | well if fixing the wrong cla when it happens is less work than the work around, let's not worry about it | 16:58 |
| BobBall_Atlanta | fungi / clarkb - any chance you could look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87680/ | 16:58 |
| anteaya | who knows which way the summit cla discussion will go | 16:58 |
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| clarkb | BobBall_Atlanta: I think gerrit may complain about that tab you added | 16:59 |
| BobBall_Atlanta | oh poo :( | 17:00 |
| clarkb | but fungi is trying to make the whitespacei n those files less picky | 17:00 |
| BobBall_Atlanta | I hate tabs... | 17:00 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ is that something that we can ignore now and will get fixed in your stack of make the world better? | 17:00 |
| BobBall_Atlanta | I wish they were never invented... | 17:00 |
| clarkb | BobBall_Atlanta: my editor shows me whitespace :) | 17:00 |
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| fungi | clarkb: BobBall_Atlanta: in fact, gerrit doesn't care at all about tabs vs spaces vs no indentation in acl files, based on my earlier tests | 17:00 |
| clarkb | at first its a bit annoying but then it becomes the best thing at all | 17:00 |
| clarkb | s/at/of/ | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move xenapi-os-testing to stackforge. https://review.openstack.org/87680 | 17:01 |
| BobBall_Atlanta | well I've just thrown in a new patch without a tab :) | 17:01 |
| BobBall_Atlanta | Gotta love code changes where you can't actually test it! | 17:01 |
| clarkb | BobBall_Atlanta: well you can test it if you spin up a gerrit | 17:01 |
| clarkb | which we do for some things but it is extremely heavy weight | 17:01 |
| BobBall_Atlanta | hehe fair point | 17:02 |
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| clarkb | fungi: speaking of the git-review tests seem rpetty stable now after restricting the number of concurrent gerrits | 17:02 |
| BobBall_Atlanta | I wonder if there is an emacs mode to vary tab-width on a timer... that'd be quite cool... | 17:02 |
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| clarkb | BobBall_Atlanta: tabs show up as >--- for me so at least I know when I haev them | 17:03 |
| clarkb | but that isn't with emacs | 17:03 |
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| clarkb | I tried using evil yesterday to edit the nodepool.yaml but couldn't get something to work right | 17:04 |
| clarkb | I used nano in the end | 17:04 |
| clarkb | I am ashamed to say. I coudl've done sed instead | 17:04 |
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| fungi | clarkb: have you figured out what it is in that file which causes the yaml highligher for vim to lose its lunch? | 17:17 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya I finally got all the symbils I needed and got it to crash in gdb. it is dying in the vim regex state machine which is used to parse the file | 17:17 |
| clarkb | something in there accessing an null pointer but that was as far as I was willing to debug | 17:18 |
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| clarkb | and yes vim has its own regex engine apparently | 17:18 |
| clarkb | and yes it is buggy | 17:18 |
| clarkb | I forget the exact pointer now | 17:19 |
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| asselin | fungi, thanks for the tip yesterday on setting up the nics. Trying it out now...although I'm not using neutron but nova-network. | 17:27 |
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| fungi | asselin: oh, not sure how that works out then. the nics list in nodepool is to accommodate neutron-based providers (who require it to work) | 17:28 |
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| asselin | BTW, yesterday I got my first cinder certification tests passing using nodepool, jenkins-job-builder, and the rest of openstack infra attached to real hardware! Thanks to everyone for helping me out. | 17:29 |
| fungi | asselin: that's a huge step--congrats! | 17:29 |
| asselin | I plan to submit all my patches as WIP for discussion in Atlanta to help out other vendors doing the same. | 17:30 |
| asselin | fungi, thanks! | 17:30 |
| fungi | asselin: sounds like a good idea, though i'd like to see them go from wip to merged if they make sense for other users | 17:30 |
| asselin | fungi, yes that is the plan. WIP only b/c I won't have time to clean them up and make them configurable for different environments. | 17:32 |
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| asselin | fungi, after the conference I will work on that. Hopefully I'll be able to get good feedback to. Perhaps there simpler ways to acheive the same goal. | 17:32 |
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| nibalizer | krotscheck: sure! | 17:34 |
| nibalizer | im at work right now | 17:35 |
| nibalizer | but ill burp text into here next chance i get | 17:35 |
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| krotscheck | nibalizer: Awesome | 17:42 |
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| anteaya | the topic in meeting-alt needs to be addresssed | 17:51 |
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| anteaya | I tried #endmeeting but that didn't fix it | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove ceilometer from default list for master https://review.openstack.org/93095 | 17:52 |
| fungi | yeah, that's probably the topic meetbot saw stuck on the channel when it started. possibly a patch merged to change its config mid-meeting or perhaps it vanished in a netsplit at some point and left it in that state, then didn't realize later when it came back | 17:52 |
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| anteaya | fungi: yes that makes sense the last meeting was oslo | 17:54 |
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| fungi | i could change it, but statusbot will also correct it when i cancel the alert, i think | 17:55 |
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| anteaya | k | 17:57 |
| anteaya | let's find out | 17:57 |
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| jesusaurus | clarkb: so we switched nodepool over to the partner image? is that working? | 17:58 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: I haven't checked image builds yet | 17:58 |
| jesusaurus | it looks to me like the partner image doesn't have git pre-installed | 17:58 |
| clarkb | I don't think the old uimage did either | 17:58 |
| clarkb | we wget the install stuff file and it gets the prereqs in | 17:58 |
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| jesusaurus | oh, is that why we wget install_puppet.sh? | 17:59 |
| clarkb | yeah | 17:59 |
| clarkb | I'm stilly trying to get out the door so I can go print this file | 18:00 |
| clarkb | then I can check image builds | 18:00 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: I can print a copy for you if you want | 18:01 |
| anteaya | the md5sum was accurate on my download | 18:01 |
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| clarkb | no its fine I should go in | 18:07 |
| anteaya | k | 18:08 |
| anteaya | cyeoh mentioned last night in the api meeting he wants to talk to someone at hp about how apis are implemented | 18:09 |
| fungi | in reality you should always print it yourself so that you have as much trust as possible that it isn't tampered with (since there's no easy way to verify the checksum of a sheet of paper once it's been printed) | 18:09 |
| anteaya | thought if we could help him find who to talk to, that might be a start | 18:09 |
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| anteaya | fungi: true | 18:09 |
| clarkb | fungi ya hence my walk :) | 18:09 |
| clarkb | anteaya I would start with phil day | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: nodepool image update works behind a http proxy https://review.openstack.org/87384 | 18:10 |
| fungi | he's rather prolific on the -dev ml too | 18:10 |
| anteaya | clarkb: cool, I will try to meet him next week | 18:11 |
| anteaya | I've heard that | 18:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add new project stackforge/swift-ceph-backend https://review.openstack.org/93102 | 18:22 |
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| fungi | dstufft: i really like your "high footgun factor" phrase in the --allow-external thread. i'll have to try very hard not to steal that ;) | 18:24 |
| dstufft | fungi: you can steal it I don't mind :D | 18:25 |
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| dstufft | fungi: this whole thread has me real depressed | 18:25 |
| fungi | dstufft: people really like footguns, i think | 18:26 |
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| dstufft | fungi: I get sad when people suggest that its not our responsibility to make PyPI reliable | 18:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add new project stackforge/swift-ceph-backend https://review.openstack.org/93102 | 18:30 |
| fungi | i think the discussions of security model there elide the importance of determinism in security | 18:30 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fungi: did openstack switch to using a mirror for everything for reliability, or performance? | 18:30 |
| Alex_Gaynor | (or somethign else) | 18:31 |
| dstufft | I think it was reliability | 18:31 |
| dstufft | I could be wrong though :) | 18:31 |
| fungi | Alex_Gaynor: effectively neither... we used that mirror to prevent projects using packages which weren't vetted as dependencies | 18:31 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fungi: ah, clever | 18:31 |
| dstufft | oh right, that bug too | 18:31 |
| dstufft | I need to fix that in pip still | 18:31 |
| dstufft | ;/ | 18:31 |
| clarkb | fungi: Alex_Gaynor but that was tacked on after we decided we needed a thing for reliability | 18:32 |
| fungi | Alex_Gaynor: though at the time (pre-pypi-fastly-cdn) there were a lot of reliability and performance gains from it | 18:32 |
| flashgordon | so superdan and I are trying out the large-ops testing job | 18:32 |
| clarkb | remember the first mirror builds just grabbed anything than any openstack project used | 18:32 |
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| clarkb | then we did the global requirements stuff for sanity | 18:32 |
| clarkb | because pypi was not very reliable at all (it is much better now but the external links are still terrible) | 18:32 |
| fungi | clarkb: i saw that as a bootstrapping phase, but yes | 18:32 |
| flashgordon | and its breaking because we have no idle CPU (so things are timing out) | 18:32 |
| flashgordon | so we wanted to try the job with no ceilometer | 18:33 |
| clarkb | flashgordon: wfm | 18:33 |
| flashgordon | clarkb: what would be best way to try that be? | 18:33 |
| fungi | sounds like a plan | 18:33 |
| flashgordon | I tried https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93095/ with experimental queue but that didn't work | 18:33 |
| clarkb | flashgordon: I think you need to teach text-matrix.py to remove ceilometer when a no ceilomter env var is used | 18:33 |
| clarkb | in devstack gate, then apply that to your job | 18:34 |
| fungi | flashgordon: probably a patch to devstack-gate to remove ceilo from the list of services | 18:34 |
| clarkb | ya, test-matrix.py understands subtraction and addition | 18:34 |
| fungi | when the large-ops job envvar is set | 18:34 |
| clarkb | I would actually make a NO CEILOMETER flag and set that in the large ops job | 18:34 |
| flashgordon | oh cool | 18:34 |
| clarkb | its possible other tests will want to do the same | 18:34 |
| flashgordon | well I don't want to actaully merge this (at least not yet) | 18:35 |
| flashgordon | I wan to be able to see if it passes | 18:35 |
| flashgordon | but I'll look at at test-matrix | 18:35 |
| fungi | flashgordon: did 93095 not work? | 18:35 |
| clarkb | flashgordon: does d-g include the experimental large ops job? | 18:35 |
| clarkb | you can just hack it into d-g I guess with a WIP change | 18:35 |
| * fungi checks | 18:35 | |
| mordred | ola folks | 18:36 |
| clarkb | mordred: ohai | 18:36 |
| msabramo | python-jenkins PR to add 100% test coverage - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90500/ | 18:36 |
| fungi | clarkb: flashgordon: yeah, need it added to the experimental pipeline for d-g | 18:36 |
| flashgordon | fungi: it does not include it | 18:36 |
| flashgordon | ahh so I'll just do that | 18:36 |
| fungi | it's quick and easy | 18:36 |
| * flashgordon waves at mordred | 18:36 | |
| dstufft | Alex_Gaynor: fungi clarkb my hope is to get PyPI into a state where nobody ever chooses to host their own mirror because of reliability concerns. They might do it for other reaons, but nobody should ever feel like they need to work around PyPI being unreliable. that's a failure to me | 18:37 |
| mordred | dstufft: well, there's a certain level where your reliability may not be the problem | 18:37 |
| mordred | dstufft: for us, any external network access is now a problem just given our number or runs | 18:37 |
| mordred | dstufft: but I agree with your goal | 18:38 |
| fungi | dstufft: Alex_Gaynor: clarkb: ultimately i expect we just want to run a full pypi mirror in each of our providers' regions to reduce latency and impact from their upstream network reliability | 18:38 |
| mordred | what fungi said | 18:38 |
| clarkb | fungi: jesusaurus it looks like nodepool successfully build a bunch of precise images across hpcloud during its scheduled image build | 18:38 |
| fungi | and probably the same for apt and yum repositories too | 18:38 |
| Alex_Gaynor | mordred, fungi, dstufft: Running enough stuff that "the internet doesn't actually work" becomes an issue is aggravating (we hit that with cryptography's CI, and we don't have /that/ many builds) | 18:38 |
| dstufft | mordred: yea that wasn't specifically targeted at openstack, though I'd say that in that case it's not PyPI's reliability that is affecting that decision but your network connection ;) | 18:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: fungi: while I imagine we will end up doing that I really don't want to | 18:39 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yay | 18:39 |
| dstufft | and thus still satisifies my goals :D | 18:39 |
| mordred | dstufft: yes! | 18:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: fungi: especialyl for the things that our providers already provide us | 18:39 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: awesome | 18:39 |
| mordred | clarkb: I agree. I don't want to | 18:39 |
| mordred | either | 18:39 |
| clarkb | but I think we have found that to be a dream | 18:39 |
| dstufft | hm | 18:39 |
| fungi | dstufft: "at least as reliable as the internet" seems like a lower bar than it really is ;) | 18:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add large-ops-testing to devstack-gate experiemntal https://review.openstack.org/93103 | 18:39 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dstufft: it's unfortunate that the internet doesn't work | 18:39 |
| mordred | well, perhaps if we can get better at pre-caching in image | 18:39 |
| flashgordon | clarkb fungi: ^ | 18:39 |
| dstufft | I wonder how reasonable (or unreasonable) it would be to convince rackspace that we should host a PyPI mirror too :V | 18:40 |
| mordred | and have NONE of our builds EVER need to talk to the internet outside of the test node... | 18:40 |
| fungi | dstufft: that would make sense to me | 18:40 |
| mordred | dstufft: well, rackspace's apt mirrors break | 18:40 |
| mordred | and we notice it | 18:40 |
| mordred | so, you know, ass | 18:40 |
| dstufft | mordred: yea well, do you think i'd be happy letting the place I work have a broken PyPI mirror ;P | 18:40 |
| fungi | heck, we can't even rely on our providers' dns resolvers any more, for a variety of reasons | 18:40 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dstufft: well, no one would know to use it -- lets get fastly to put a box in our DCs instead | 18:41 |
| dstufft | that'd be even more awesome | 18:41 |
| mordred | dstufft: good point | 18:41 |
| dstufft | I know fastly has an asburn POP already, no idea how close it to IAD | 18:41 |
| fungi | that's what a lot of the larger cdns have been using for years... colocate in large data center providers which also helps offload the volume from customers at those providers | 18:42 |
| Alex_Gaynor | I dont' think our DC and AWS's are that far apart | 18:42 |
| mordred | dstufft: yeah - if you could just get rax to fix their dns that would be great | 18:42 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dstufft: actually, fastly has chicago and dallas POPs, I wonder if those are with us | 18:42 |
| fungi | mordred: i'm sure he'll have as much luck as you've had fixing hpcloud's dns servers ;) | 18:42 |
| dstufft | mordred: I have zero insight into whose responsibility that would be | 18:43 |
| mordred | fungi: ++ | 18:43 |
| * mordred always just pings pvo | 18:43 | |
| dstufft | most likely if we did a PyPI mirror i'd end up taking ownership of it just because | 18:43 |
| dstufft | :} | 18:43 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dstufft: I don't think it's wroth it | 18:44 |
| dstufft | also ashburn is the best Fastly POP for PyPI since it's our shield node, it almost never doesn't have something cached | 18:44 |
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| dstufft | :D | 18:44 |
| dstufft | Alex_Gaynor: yea probably not | 18:44 |
| dstufft | fastly is probably better at making things go zoom zoom than I am | 18:44 |
| fungi | hency the name | 18:45 |
| fungi | er, hence | 18:45 |
| anteaya | fungi: any acknowledgement from foundation sysadmins the db is unreachable? | 18:46 |
| fungi | anteaya: it's crickets there | 18:46 |
| anteaya | k | 18:47 |
| fungi | jbryce: if you're around, do you happen to have any insight into the www server? i've e-mailed todd and jimmy hours ago but expect they must be occupied/travelling. bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317957 contains what limited detail we have from our end | 18:48 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317957 in openstack-org "Server error when updating contacts" [Critical,Confirmed] | 18:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Conrad proposed a change to stackforge/python-jenkins: make JSON depth response configurable https://review.openstack.org/93105 | 18:49 |
| mordred | fungi, jbryce: /me <- random_bitching_about_not_having_migrated_that_stuff_yet() | 18:54 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add large-ops-testing to devstack-gate experiemntal https://review.openstack.org/93103 | 18:54 |
| fungi | mordred: if the current bug persists much longer, i will probably take initiative and temporarily turn that submission into a local no-op (i already have a fake api endpoint installed, since we use it on review-dev to test the mechanism, so it's just a matter of changing the url for now) | 18:56 |
| fungi | the down side is that changing it means a gerrit restart | 18:57 |
| clarkb | fungi: hrm | 18:57 |
| fungi | the up side is that we have a couple pending gerrit config adjustments which are already merged waiting for a restart | 18:57 |
| clarkb | it is an enforcement mechanism so seems weird to undo that | 18:57 |
| clarkb | (not that I think we actually need the enforcement) | 18:57 |
| fungi | i'm trying to weigh that enforcement against at least half a dozen new contributors who are trying to submit their first patches under the icla they already agreed to and can't successfully ping the foundation server to confirm their e-mail address matches | 18:58 |
| clarkb | ya | 18:59 |
| fungi | that's the half dozen we know about because they've opened bug reports or come in here to ask about it | 18:59 |
| clarkb | do we have a phone number we can call? | 18:59 |
| fungi | no idea how many more just decided to try again later, or go away completely | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move xenapi-os-testing to stackforge. https://review.openstack.org/87680 | 19:00 |
| clarkb | I want to say that once long ago there was a foundation side thing and phone calls were made, but I was never included in them | 19:00 |
| fungi | i do have phone numbers for todd and jimmy from a previous maintenance notice, months ago, so those may still be valid (i can try them anyway) | 19:01 |
| fungi | giving that a shot now | 19:01 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Create an oslo-specs repository https://review.openstack.org/92614 | 19:02 |
| fungi | success! i reached todd, and he's looking into it now | 19:04 |
| anteaya | yay | 19:04 |
| fungi | clearly there are people who still use these old fashioned talking boxes | 19:05 |
| anteaya | and now is not a bad time for a gerrit restart | 19:05 |
| anteaya | or tomorrow | 19:05 |
| anteaya | heh | 19:05 |
| cmart | Hello! | 19:05 |
| anteaya | hi cmart | 19:05 |
| cmart | Sorry to interrupt you guys, but I'm having issues with gate-python 2.7 | 19:06 |
| fungi | todd says there were updates last night or today and a cdn layer was added to the site, so maybe it needs to be tweaked to pass through those api calls | 19:06 |
| anteaya | cmart: that is why wer are here | 19:06 |
| anteaya | cmart: can you post a link to a patch or log file? | 19:06 |
| fungi | cmart: running it yourself, or on a job ran by our ci? | 19:06 |
| cmart | sure: http://logs.openstack.org/55/91455/2/check/gate-python-climateclient-python27/c03e145/console.html | 19:07 |
| cmart | ci | 19:07 |
| cmart | smth related to Zero tests run.. | 19:07 |
| cmart | Note: that code doesn't have tests, but the previous job didn't failed | 19:07 |
| cmart | and I'm trying to find out what happened :/ | 19:08 |
| anteaya | 2014-05-09 14:42:07.906 | py27: commands succeeded | 19:08 |
| anteaya | 2014-05-09 14:42:07.906 | congratulations :) | 19:08 |
| fungi | oh, i wonder if the most recent change to consider "" as 0 altered that behavior for projects which are running those jobs but have no tests defined... | 19:08 |
| fungi | clarkb: ^ ? | 19:08 |
| fungi | cmart: easy fix would be to add a very simple test to your project which is just a no-op, i think | 19:08 |
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| * fungi will brb--gotta check the mailbox | 19:08 | |
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| clarkb | cmart: we just fixed a check in our test wrappers to make tests that run no tests fail | 19:11 |
| clarkb | cmart: as usually that indicates a problem | 19:11 |
| cmart | OK.. so | 19:11 |
| cmart | solution: add tests? | 19:11 |
| clarkb | cmart: yeah you can just add a test that does assert True | 19:13 |
| cmart | I have no problem in doing that, but I just want to make sure :) | 19:13 |
| cmart | OK. Will do that. Thanks! | 19:13 |
| zaro | clarkb, fungi: just tried to push change for All-Projects.config but gerrit says i don't have permission. | 19:13 |
| clarkb | zaro: thats correct | 19:14 |
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| zaro | clarkb: can u suggest workaround? | 19:14 |
| clarkb | zaro: you need an infra core to make the change for you | 19:14 |
| fungi | zaro: to review.o.o or review-dev.o.o (or a gerrit of your own)? | 19:14 |
| annegentle_ | clarkb: or fungi: can I do a stable/icehouse branch myself for openstack-manuals or is that a ttx task? | 19:15 |
| annegentle_ | sha is b9edba45d6c174800f1e50f19704fa82e1a1322f | 19:16 |
| zaro | fungi: to review.o.o | 19:16 |
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| fungi | annegentle_: i think ttx or infra have created those for you previously (it doesn't look like the acl for that project is set to accommodate that) | 19:16 |
| zaro | fungi, clarkb : would one of you like to do the honors? http://paste.openstack.org/show/79765/ | 19:16 |
| fungi | annegentle_: i can do that right now--i'm already looking at the correct screen | 19:16 |
| clarkb | annegentle_: I can create the branch | 19:16 |
| annegentle_ | fungi: woot go for it | 19:16 |
| clarkb | oh go for it fungi | 19:16 |
| clarkb | I don't have gerrit open | 19:16 |
| clarkb | zaro: I thought that goes in the gerrit config | 19:17 |
| clarkb | not all projects | 19:17 |
| fungi | annegentle_: done. do you still need the old nearly/havana branch there for anything? | 19:17 |
| zaro | duh, you are right. | 19:17 |
| zaro | i'll make the change to config | 19:18 |
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| annegentle_ | fungi: oh let's delete that one nearly/havana | 19:19 |
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| fungi | annegentle_: done as well | 19:19 |
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| fungi | annegentle_: on the topic of api.o.o, are you still publishing things to that (a .htaccess file with a permanent redirect or something), or should we be removing the old publication target in jenkins and replace the old site with an alias in cloudsites? | 19:21 |
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| fungi | or option c, whatever that may be>? | 19:21 |
| fungi | flashgordon: looks like it's running now... https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-large-ops-testing/1/console | 19:23 |
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| annegentle_ | fungi: working on that now, we should only be publishing to developer.openstack.org now, and I'm revising the .htaccess that was on the api.openstack.org server now. Ajaeger said the .htaccess in api-site repo is now going to developer.openstack.org. | 19:23 |
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| annegentle_ | then about the old publication target, help me understand the alias idea? | 19:24 |
| fungi | annegentle_: oh, probably not much to understand. when i created developer.o.o it asked me if i wanted an actual site or just an alias to another site. so i assume deleting and recreating the api.o.o site might accomplish the same, but since i've never really touched rackspace cloudsites before now i don't really know | 19:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: configure direct download of files to browser. https://review.openstack.org/93108 | 19:26 |
| fungi | annegentle_: keeping api.o.o around may allow you more fine-grained control over what parts of the old site map to where on the new site if it's not a perfect 1:1 correlation | 19:26 |
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| annegentle_ | fungi: I feel pretty confident that we've captured it all, but the sitemap is a good thing to check | 19:28 |
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| Ajaeger | fungi: I think we can redirect all URLs 1:1 from api.o.o to developer.o.o | 19:28 |
| Ajaeger | fungi, thanks for creating the icehouse branch for openstack-manuals. I'm sending the first patch... | 19:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add publish jobs and pipeline for bash8 https://review.openstack.org/92705 | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | sdague https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92748/ what do you think of the inline comment? | 20:06 |
| clarkb | should that have been a -1? | 20:06 |
| sdague | I can see the nested if idea | 20:07 |
| sdague | I'm fine either way | 20:07 |
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| sdague | honestly, can we delete the block entirely yet? | 20:08 |
| clarkb | we are still running on precise | 20:08 |
| clarkb | I think we can delete it once stable/icehouse is deleted | 20:08 |
| clarkb | or wait | 20:08 |
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| clarkb | that isn't a cloud archive thing right it was for a specific bug that went into precise proper? | 20:08 |
| sdague | right, that was supposed to be fixed in precise propper | 20:08 |
| clarkb | for some reason I always think that is doing cloud archive version of libvirt without the rest of cloud archive | 20:09 |
| clarkb | dims: ^ can you confirm? | 20:09 |
| clarkb | er confirm that we don't need it and propose a removal | 20:09 |
| dims | looking clarkb | 20:10 |
| clarkb | dims: sdague a removal should self gate right? | 20:11 |
| clarkb | or was this a 1% failure? | 20:11 |
| sdague | it was a smaller failure | 20:11 |
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| dims | The 0.9.8+ patch was specifically for precise LTS images w/o UCA | 20:12 |
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| dims | clarkb, are we going to trusty? or precise+uca yet? | 20:13 |
| sdague | dims: the question is whether the 0.9.8+ patch landed in updates | 20:13 |
| clarkb | dims: we will go to trusty for juno | 20:13 |
| clarkb | dims: but havana and icehouse will be tested on precise in the same way we test today | 20:14 |
| sdague | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/libv/libvirt/libvirt_0.9.8-2ubuntu17.19/changelog | 20:14 |
| sdague | I think .18 was the fix | 20:14 |
| sdague | dims: that look right to you? | 20:14 |
| dims | yep. that's the one sdague | 20:15 |
| dims | * d/p/ubuntu/qemu-fix-race-between-async-and-query-jobs.patch: fix a race | 20:15 |
| dims | between asynchronous and query jobs. (LP: #1254872) | 20:15 |
| sdague | ok, so that's in updates, which means I think we should be safe to pull that whole section | 20:15 |
| sdague | let me propose that instead | 20:16 |
| dims | clarkb, yes, the change has gone into all versions of uca and trusty | 20:16 |
| clarkb | sdague: ok, you going to update ianw's change or rebase? | 20:17 |
| clarkb | (I can reorg things if it helps) | 20:17 |
| sdague | so I'll actually probably just put this on master | 20:18 |
| sdague | and -1 his change to rebase on it | 20:18 |
| sdague | the patch above it needs work anyway in his series | 20:18 |
| clarkb | ok | 20:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: remove libvirt work around https://review.openstack.org/93123 | 20:20 |
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| clarkb | fungi: re todd and CLA was there any indication someone is working on it? or should we plan to remove the check like you suggested? | 20:27 |
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| * clarkb is probably going to AFK shortly and wants to make sure nothing important is left hanging | 20:27 | |
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| fungi | clarkb: yeah, i just got back off the phone with him--we're getting it fixed shortly i think | 20:28 |
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| clarkb | cool, any chance we can get them to notify us of major changes like that? | 20:29 |
| fungi | i guess they thought "add a cdn" was a minor change | 20:30 |
| fungi | anyway, looks like their cdn also has security protections built into it | 20:30 |
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| fungi | and it decided that the gerrit server is trying to do something untoward (based on its browser string/signature, or its call volume, or who knows) so we're working on whitelisting it | 20:31 |
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| clarkb | wonderful go go gadget layer 7 firewall | 20:31 |
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| clarkb | I still don't understand why my zuul change fails so hard | 20:33 |
| clarkb | but I am pretty sure the test is sound and I the change is actually buggy | 20:33 |
| fungi | when it dawned on me that we're using http instead of https for this, i grabbed a packet capture and immediately saw fun stuff like "...Access denied | www.openstack.org used CloudFlare to restrict access...Please enable cookies...The owner of this website (www.openstack.org) has banned your access based on your browser's signature..." | 20:34 |
| clarkb | oh right because the data is independently encrypted | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Include stable/icehouse in gerritbot for manuals https://review.openstack.org/93125 | 20:36 |
| fungi | yeah, rsa with the key on the receiving party's system | 20:36 |
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| clarkb | oh I think I figured my zuul test out | 20:38 |
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| clarkb | but I also figured out a couple problems with the test | 20:39 |
| fungi | i was just starting to stare at that one with more vigor in hopes the broken would just out at me | 20:39 |
| fungi | s/just/jump/ | 20:39 |
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| clarkb | I need a layout that does retriggering on comments being added | 20:39 |
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| clarkb | which I thought this was doing but isn't | 20:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: if you search for maintainCache in test_scheduler.py I think I need to manually clear it out | 20:40 |
| clarkb | there are comments in other tests iwth the reason why | 20:40 |
| fungi | ahh | 20:40 |
| NobodyCam | has anyone else reported ssh issues to review.openstack.org? | 20:40 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: not particularly new ones anyway--what issues? | 20:41 |
| NobodyCam | i seem ti be getting Permission denied (publickey). | 20:41 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: does git remote -v show the username you would expect in your gerrit push url? | 20:42 |
| fungi | and port 29418? | 20:43 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: if those check out, did you update your local ssh key or change the one you've got on the server? and when was the last time it was working for you? | 20:44 |
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| NobodyCam | day or so ago/ | 20:44 |
| NobodyCam | let me see what up | 20:45 |
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| fungi | NobodyCam: you want to make sure that the username in the remote url matches the one you see at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ | 20:45 |
| fungi | clarkb: anteaya: !!! Contact information last updated on May 9, 2014 at 8:46 PM. | 20:46 |
| fungi | seems to be working again | 20:46 |
| clarkb | woot | 20:46 |
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| fungi | waiting to see if todd has any other concerns before i sound the all's-clear | 20:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Drop large-ops-testing number to 100 from 175 https://review.openstack.org/93127 | 20:51 |
| clarkb | flashgordon: giving up? | 20:51 |
| flashgordon | have what hopefully should be two easy patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92901/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93127/ | 20:51 |
| flashgordon | clarkb: sort of heh | 20:52 |
| flashgordon | want to see if we can get ceilometer to pass at 100 | 20:52 |
| flashgordon | it fails hard at 175 | 20:52 |
| flashgordon | 100 is still 2x the current test | 20:52 |
| flashgordon | clarkb: when we disabled ceilometer 175 almost worked. hit the OS_TEST_TIMEOUT in tempest (500 seconds) | 20:52 |
| flashgordon | because we try booting 525 instances in one test | 20:53 |
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| flashgordon | hoping https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93126/ will sort that one out | 20:53 |
| flashgordon | superdan: ^^ | 20:53 |
| flashgordon | clarkb: ceilometer thrashes mysql and drops idle CPU below 10% | 20:53 |
| fungi | toddmorey: thanks for all the help! | 20:54 |
| fungi | #status ok | 20:54 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: sending ok | 20:54 |
| * fungi digs up the list of all the new contributors who came in here asking | 20:54 | |
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| openstackstatus | fungi: finished sending ok | 20:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Inject gerrit-doc.properties for gate-{name}-tox-doc-publish-{envlist} https://review.openstack.org/93129 | 21:02 |
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| Ajaeger | infra team, could you get 93129 reviewed and approved quickly? Without it building manuals for icehouse fails ;( | 21:03 |
| Ajaeger | Oops, me forgot to say friendly "please", so let me add it again: please ;) | 21:03 |
| fungi | abettadapur: pep: sballe__: mengxd: if any of you are still around, the contactstore problem between gerrit and the foundation member system has been resolved in the past few minutes. you should be okay to try again, and apologies for the delay! | 21:03 |
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| anteaya | fungi: yay | 21:06 |
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| fungi | and bug 1317957 has been updated and resolved as well | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317957 in openstack-org "Server error when updating contacts" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317957 | 21:08 |
| clarkb | fungi: I am beginningto think there may be a bug in the require approvals stuff | 21:09 |
| clarkb | fungi: there is a line that says if pipeline.approvals and not change.approvals don't run tests | 21:09 |
| clarkb | which excludes any change in our test suite for the most part | 21:10 |
| clarkb | so either just tests are broken or zuul is buggy | 21:10 |
| NobodyCam | fungi: How long should one wait for a new key to take effect after uploading? | 21:10 |
| fungi | Ajaeger: zaro: re 93129, is "properties" valid for non-maven jobs? | 21:10 |
| fungi | clarkb: which line says if pipeline.approvals and not change.approvals? | 21:11 |
| Ajaeger | fungi: good question. I need the file for the tools - they need to publish to stable/icehouse and read the properties file... | 21:11 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: should be more or less instantaneous | 21:12 |
| NobodyCam | humm | 21:12 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: did you just now add a new key on your gerrit settings as a troubleshooting measure? | 21:12 |
| NobodyCam | any chance my account got locked? | 21:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: in zuul.model.ChangeishFilter.matches | 21:13 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: to my knowledge, there's no automated account locking in gerrit and i can't imagine one of us would have manually disabled your account | 21:13 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: what's your account id number? | 21:13 |
| NobodyCam | 5805 | 21:14 |
| clarkb | fungi: I mean it seems to be fine in production so I think this may just be test suite oddness | 21:14 |
| clarkb | going to cleanup what I have now and push an update to gerrit, then leave a comment on why the tests still fail | 21:14 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, at least the abandonment stopping comment loops behavior suggests that require open is working | 21:15 |
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| clarkb | yeah I think the approvals: jenkins older than 48h isn't working in the test suite | 21:16 |
| clarkb | the other bits should be ok | 21:16 |
| clarkb | are we using the require approvals yet in prod? | 21:16 |
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| fungi | NobodyCam: the key named "keyupdate" is the new one you added, or was it the github one? | 21:17 |
| NobodyCam | I just added both | 21:17 |
| fungi | clarkb: looks like we're only doing require-approval on events for now | 21:18 |
| fungi | so not yet anyway | 21:18 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, we decided not to do anything but open until it's more comprehensively tested | 21:18 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: i'll check the logs to see if they lead to further enlightenment | 21:19 |
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| NobodyCam | TY fungi :) | 21:19 |
| jeblair | clarkb: but i have to admit, i don't know what line you're talking about | 21:19 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: i don't see any obvious entries in the ssh or error logs for your username | 21:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Attempt to ignore comments from old patchsets https://review.openstack.org/92942 | 21:20 |
| clarkb | jeblair: getting a link now | 21:20 |
| clarkb | jeblair: also ^ may be interesting to you | 21:20 |
| NobodyCam | humm | 21:21 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: fungi https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul/tree/zuul/model.py#n1196 that one. it means that an uncommented change will never match requires | 21:21 |
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| Ajaeger | fungi: it should work, see http://logs.openstack.org/b9/b9edba45d6c174800f1e50f19704fa82e1a1322f/post/openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publishdocs/f9d62f7/console.html | 21:21 |
| clarkb | preventing check tests from running on initial patchset push (I think anyways. This is the behavior I seem to see in the test I added above) | 21:21 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: May 9 21:09:01 review sshd[4833]: input_userauth_request: invalid user nobodycam [preauth] | 21:21 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: that was in the system log... you were hitting port 22 at that point (maybe just a test?) | 21:22 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i agree; i believe i said in a conversation with jhesketh that i thought that we may need to keep some change requires | 21:22 |
| NobodyCam | ya I think I just typed ssh with out the port | 21:22 |
| Ajaeger | fungi: that one comes from '{name}-tox-doc-{envlist}' in api-jobs - and there it's set correctly | 21:22 |
| fungi | Ajaeger: sounds good to me | 21:23 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: are you using teh correct username for gerrit? | 21:23 |
| fungi | clarkb: at least his tests seem to match the username in gerrit | 21:23 |
| NobodyCam | nobodycam | 21:23 |
| clarkb | it is case sensitive | 21:23 |
| fungi | yeah, it's all lower-case in the db | 21:24 |
| fungi | and in the log entries i see where he tested it here | 21:24 |
| NobodyCam | clarkb: ssh -i ~/.ssh/github_rsa nobodycam@review.openstack.org 29418 | 21:24 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i don't think zuul should only work on the current patchset -- i think that's something specific to certain kinds of pipelines. i think it would be better to optionally require that. | 21:24 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: -p 29418 | 21:24 |
| clarkb | jeblair: thats what fungi and I were trying to figure out and we couldn't really decide on a good way to do that | 21:24 |
| clarkb | jeblair: but I can't get it to work unconditionally either so was leaving that for later | 21:25 |
| * NobodyCam flace plant | 21:25 | |
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| NobodyCam | *face even | 21:25 |
| jeblair | clarkb: how about an additional requirement to the trigger requirements? | 21:25 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: so we can say "trigger: - comment-added: require: latest-patchset: True" (or whatever the syntax) | 21:26 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I like that | 21:26 |
| jeblair | clarkb: (eg the requirement applies to comment-added events -- so it only pays attention to comments added to the latest patchset) | 21:26 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: ? | 21:26 |
| NobodyCam | TY fungi & clarkb its deff late on friday | 21:26 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: well don't leave us hanging | 21:27 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: figured it out? | 21:27 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ya I like that | 21:27 |
| clarkb | I probably won't get to updating my patch today. I need to do stuff before leaving for a week | 21:27 |
| clarkb | but maybe at the summit I iwll find time to hack that out (and probably use adifferent layout fixture to test it) | 21:27 |
| jeblair | clarkb: cool, sorry i can't help much more right now, about to have a family dinner | 21:28 |
| NobodyCam | you guys rock... I prob owe you a beer or five | 21:28 |
| clarkb | jeblair: its ok have fun | 21:28 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: well what was it | 21:28 |
| fungi | NobodyCam: bill it to mordred ;) | 21:28 |
| fungi | jeblair: enjoy! | 21:28 |
| clarkb | jeblair: its mostly not a huge problem | 21:28 |
| clarkb | there is a semi doable workaround currently | 21:29 |
| NobodyCam | I had to shutdown my terminal and reopen it... | 21:29 |
| Ajaeger | fungi, jeblair, clarkb I have to leave now and would appreciate a review today of 93129, please... Thanks and bye for now! | 21:29 |
| fungi | especially now that core reviewers can (un)abandon changes | 21:29 |
| jeblair | yay unexpected consequences | 21:29 |
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| NobodyCam | and everything worked like it should | 21:29 |
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| * NobodyCam thinks he should reboot the whole laptop (17:30 up 10 days, 20:22) thats a long time for this thing | 21:30 | |
| fungi | NobodyCam: sounds like maybe your ssh agent or keychain was fubar in that case | 21:30 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: I can't help you with oeprating systems that don't like being alive for more than 10 days :) | 21:31 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: but I can point you at alternatives that are more than happy to have uptime go well beyond that | 21:31 |
| NobodyCam | lol osx use to good at it | 21:31 |
| jeblair | also, ghostbusters is on ;) | 21:32 |
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| * fungi remembers the schedule jobs he had to reboot windows nt 3.51 domain controllers weekly. that was a lifetime ago | 21:33 | |
| clarkb | FYI not all nodepool images have the new run-unittests script | 21:33 |
| clarkb | hpcloud az2 is doing its typical stubborness | 21:33 |
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| fungi | jesusaurus: responded to your comment on 92884 with what i hope is a compelling counterargument ;) | 21:43 |
| * fungi needs to grab some luggage and pack it | 21:44 | |
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| jesusaurus | fungi: thats a fair enough reason, though I'm curious who is using the module on an older version of puppet | 21:47 |
| fungi | jesusaurus: i couldn't tell you, but i know there are certainly other parties using that module and that file did not previously add a comma there, so it could potentially add new breakage for some downstream consumer. i'm all for consistency, but if we can maintain backward compatibility that easily then there's little reason not to continue until there's a better reason not to do so | 21:49 |
| jesusaurus | true | 21:49 |
| fungi | if it weren't one of our oldest puppet modules i'd be less concerned | 21:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Install bootstrap for zuul module https://review.openstack.org/91214 | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Create cinder-specs git repo https://review.openstack.org/91723 | 21:59 |
| pep | thanks fungi - saving contact information works now | 21:59 |
| fungi | pep: great! sorry again for the complication | 21:59 |
| pep | np! thanks for the assistance and communication | 22:00 |
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| annegentle_web | ok, I've got the main redirect done for developer.openstack.org instead of api.openstack.org, but this .htaccess isn't doing it for the only non-index.html subpage, api-ref.html: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cab5cd15f4ddcbfc7012 | 22:04 |
| annegentle_web | what am I doing incorrectly? anyone have ideas? anteaya fungi clarkb ? | 22:04 |
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| annegentle_web | so if for example you click on a link wayyy at the bottom of developer.openstack.org which goes to http://api.openstack.org/api-ref.html the trailing / isn't kept | 22:05 |
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| clarkb | annegentle_web: which redirect isn't working? I clicked onthe api-ref link at the bottom of developer.openstack.org and that appears to work | 22:10 |
| annegentle_web | clarkb: oh it doesn't for me, weird! | 22:10 |
| annegentle_web | clarkb: I get http://developer.openstack.orgapi-ref.html/ all mashed together | 22:10 |
| clarkb | I get http://docs.openstack.org/api/api-ref-guides.html | 22:11 |
| clarkb | er wrong link | 22:11 |
| annegentle_web | right | 22:11 |
| clarkb | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref.html | 22:11 |
| clarkb | thats what I get | 22:11 |
| clarkb | with firefox 29 | 22:11 |
| annegentle_web | darn! werid. I'm on Firefox 28 | 22:12 |
| annegentle_web | errr | 22:12 |
| annegentle_web | is this ok then? | 22:12 |
| annegentle_web | maybe I'll try more browsers/computers | 22:12 |
| clarkb | I mean we should probably fix it if it persists | 22:12 |
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| annegentle_web | yeah gotta be the browser cache since it doesn't happen on other browsers | 22:12 |
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| annegentle_web | clarkb: ok thanks for checking! Let me know if anyone reports bad behavior! | 22:13 |
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| fungi | looks like it's redirecting correctly for me too (ff24) | 22:14 |
| fungi | oh, just missed her | 22:14 |
| * mordred has arrived in atlanta | 22:14 | |
| * mordred will make sure that all of the bars are acceptable for our purposes | 22:14 | |
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| fungi | mordred: i've never been in a city with worse bars--not that it will stop us | 22:15 |
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| mordred | fungi: I've spent a countless amount of time here, having been born here and family and all | 22:16 |
| mordred | but never any time in bars | 22:16 |
| mordred | because, you know, when I come, I'm usually visiting family | 22:16 |
| anteaya | annegentle: link works for me too | 22:16 |
| anteaya | firefox 29 | 22:16 |
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| fungi | mordred: born in atlanta? you have my sympathy ;) | 22:18 |
| anteaya | works with chrome too: Version 34.0.1847.116 Ubuntu 13.10 (260972) | 22:18 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: Let me know if I need to bring my own bar | 22:18 |
| fungi | mordred: my wife is from there, or else i wouldn't spend as much time there as i do | 22:18 |
| fungi | mordred: if you know anyone who wants to buy a 2br ranch home in tucker, let me know ;) | 22:19 |
| mordred | krotscheck: you would probably not be received poorly by the rest of us if you did | 22:19 |
| mordred | fungi: nope. I do not know anyone who wants to do that | 22:20 |
| krotscheck | mordred: You should stop not speaking with less double negatives. | 22:20 |
| fungi | mordred: can't blame them. i'm pretty certain at this point that there *is* not anyone who wants to do that | 22:20 |
| mordred | krotscheck: I can't not keep doing it | 22:21 |
| mordred | fungi: my grandmother's old place was in lithia springs. it used to be nice. then they put in a major trucking distribtion center a half a mile away. now it is a very small house in an area no one wants to be in next toa very large field of kudzu | 22:21 |
| anteaya | :( | 22:22 |
| fungi | mordred: that entire end of georgia is a very large field of kudzu | 22:22 |
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| mordred | yup | 22:26 |
| mordred | it's always good to bring in a non-native species with no local predators to do | 22:26 |
| mordred | you know | 22:26 |
| mordred | landscaping | 22:26 |
| mordred | nothing ever goes wrong with that | 22:26 |
| fungi | i love that they thought it would make good silage for sheep | 22:27 |
| fungi | what could go wrong? | 22:27 |
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| marun | lifeless: is setupClass/teardownClass still a bad idea? And if so, why does tempest still use it? | 22:41 |
| anteaya | fungi: so I am taking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93065/ for a test drive: http://paste.openstack.org/show/79785/ | 22:41 |
| anteaya | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls/stackforge/magnetodb.config | 22:41 |
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| anteaya | so my question is about the line Code-Review for Registered Users | 22:42 |
| clarkb | marun: I would say yes. nose doesn't handle them properly and I think the model of fixtures and test resources is much easier to understand. I think tempest uses them becaue they didn't rewrite all of the existing code that used them | 22:42 |
| anteaya | the script seems to keep that line, which is useless as far as I can see and remove the needed Code-Review for magnetodb milestone group | 22:43 |
| marun | clarkb: ok, gotcha. will make sure to continue avoiding its use in neutron. | 22:43 |
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| anteaya | fungi: also the useless create line for refs/tags/* seems to still hang around | 22:44 |
| anteaya | oh I have to pass 2 as an argument to remove create, I will try that | 22:45 |
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| anteaya | okay using 2 as an argument gets rid of the create line | 22:47 |
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| flashgordon | sdague: ping | 22:57 |
| sdague | flashgordon: what's up? | 22:57 |
| flashgordon | for your dashboard how do I make it hide patches I am the owner of? | 22:57 |
| flashgordon | and also things from !master branch | 22:57 |
| flashgordon | but more the first question | 22:58 |
| sdague | we'll need to make a change for the first one. The real issue right now is there is no code review flow for improvements here because of the weird branches this lives on | 23:00 |
| sdague | clarkb: you have any idea of a code review flow we could create here? Even if it's a dummy project that someone can sync later. | 23:00 |
| sdague | marun: the reason it's still in tempest is there is a ton of code, and it hasn't become a priority yet | 23:01 |
| lifeless | marun: it is, and removing it hasn't be a top priority, so the effort to cleanly migrate hasn't been done | 23:01 |
| lifeless | marun: change takes work | 23:01 |
| clarkb | sdague You an do personal ones right? | 23:02 |
| clarkb | maybe we just need a repo of examples | 23:02 |
| sdague | clarkb: well personal ones are just urls | 23:02 |
| sdague | which is fine | 23:02 |
| sdague | but it would be nice to create improvements on the server side ones over time as well | 23:03 |
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| clarkb | ya maybe jeepyb learns to sync those | 23:06 |
| clarkb | the process is identical to acls | 23:07 |
| clarkb | just different data and refs | 23:07 |
| sdague | that's a good idea | 23:07 |
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| sdague | flashgordon: so the short answer, it's not happening before summit | 23:13 |
| flashgordon | sdague: :( no way to hack it up? | 23:14 |
| sdague | flashgordon: you can build your own versions client side | 23:14 |
| sdague | but you can't client side modify the server side dashboards | 23:14 |
| flashgordon | how do I build my own clientside? | 23:15 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/user-dashboards.html | 23:15 |
| sdague | or, like clarkb said, if you teach jeepyb to manage these files, we can review them in | 23:16 |
| * flashgordon doesn't know anything about jeepyb | 23:17 | |
| flashgordon | sdague: well for starters, what is the config data for your dashboard? | 23:20 |
| sdague | flashgordon: ? | 23:20 |
| sdague | I put all the queries in the email | 23:21 |
| flashgordon | sdague: you don't have a full URL version of it? | 23:21 |
| sdague | flashgordon: no, that's the whole point of the server side ones | 23:21 |
| marun | lifeless: fair enough. just making sure that I should continue discouraging its use in neutron. | 23:21 |
| sdague | I would go completely nuts trying to manage a url like that :) | 23:22 |
| flashgordon | sdague: hehe yeah | 23:22 |
| sdague | anyway, I got to go and finish packing for flight tomorrow | 23:22 |
| sdague | see you in ATL | 23:22 |
| flashgordon | yup | 23:22 |
| flashgordon | o/ | 23:22 |
| clarkb | everyone is going so early | 23:25 |
| flashgordon | clarkb: I am arriving 8pm sunday | 23:26 |
| clarkb | I figured stuff didnt start until tuesday | 23:26 |
| clarkb | then that changed | 23:26 |
| clarkb | 4pm sunday for me | 23:26 |
| sdague | well, board / tc thing sunday, and conference / ops day monday | 23:26 |
| flashgordon | clarkb: ohh so you don't get there that late | 23:28 |
| clarkb | ya glad I went sunday and not monday | 23:29 |
| flashgordon | sdague: have fun at the board thing | 23:29 |
| clarkb | er am going | 23:29 |
| flashgordon | thats board + TC meeting | 23:29 |
| sdague | hmmm probably do not need this stack of samsung business cards :) | 23:30 |
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| flashgordon | heh | 23:34 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Update openstack-doc-tools for translation of api-site https://review.openstack.org/90746 | 23:47 |
| anteaya | it is raining in Atlanta and i forgot my raincoat at home | 23:48 |
| anteaya | sigh | 23:48 |
| clarkb | anteaya: you are there already? | 23:48 |
| clarkb | see everyone is early | 23:48 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: it will be warm rain though | 23:49 |
| Alex_Gaynor | clarkb: If it helps, I'm showing up fashionably late. | 23:49 |
| anteaya | no, still in Ontario | 23:50 |
| anteaya | just reading tweets that talk about the rain | 23:50 |
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| anteaya | I ran away from home on the weekend to get some sleep and forgot my raincoat | 23:51 |
| anteaya | my bulletproof seattle raincoat | 23:51 |
| anteaya | yes, it will be warm rain | 23:51 |
| anteaya | I hope my sandals are up to it | 23:51 |
| SlickNik | clarkb: had a quick question for you, if you have a moment. | 23:51 |
| clarkb | SlickNik: sure | 23:51 |
| clarkb | anteaya: ah gotcha | 23:52 |
| SlickNik | clarkb: We moved our api-docs from the database-api repo to the trove repo, | 23:52 |
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| SlickNik | And now need to retire the database-api repo. | 23:52 |
| clarkb | anteaya: fwiw I don't plan on taking a raincoat whihc may be a mistake but its warm rain | 23:52 |
| SlickNik | I was going to remove the content and leave a readme up (with redirection). | 23:52 |
| anteaya | you are from seattle | 23:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Zake 0.0.16 released https://review.openstack.org/93156 | 23:52 |
| anteaya | you live in a mist | 23:52 |
| clarkb | SlickNik: so we don't delete repos. There has been talk of doing an openstack-attic org that we move things into to denote their deadedness | 23:52 |
| anteaya | that would be like me shrugging off a morning frost | 23:52 |
| clarkb | SlickNik: but updating the README is definitely a good start | 23:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Zake 0.0.16 released https://review.openstack.org/93156 | 23:53 |
| SlickNik | clarkb: Should I remove jobs, and other references to database-api from infra/config? | 23:53 |
| clarkb | SlickNik: if you look at the infra meeting page on the wiki I believe there is a list of projects that need renaming | 23:54 |
| clarkb | SlickNik: sure, though I don't think there is a big rush to do that | 23:54 |
| SlickNik | clarkb: Okay, thanks! | 23:55 |
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| clarkb | SlickNik: go ahead and add the db api project to the list on the infra meeting wiki page | 23:56 |
| clarkb | that way we don't forget it needs moving | 23:56 |
| anteaya | I'm absconding my mother's raincoat | 23:57 |
| SlickNik | clarkb: I think Andreas already added it. | 23:57 |
| SlickNik | Let me double check | 23:57 |
| clarkb | SlickNik: perfect | 23:57 |
| clarkb | anteaya: fwiw I fully expect real rain in atlanta | 23:57 |
| anteaya | clarkb: you are braver than me | 23:58 |
| anteaya | so I am glad I am at least taking a coat | 23:58 |
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| clarkb | meh you grow up in one the rainiest places in the world and warm torrential downpours are part of life | 23:59 |
| anteaya | I have no rainboots though | 23:59 |
| SlickNik | clarkb: Another question (and I notice sdague was talking about this earlier). Is there a programmatic way to submit a custom dashboard query for a project in gerrit? | 23:59 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yup | 23:59 |
| clarkb | SlickNik: no at least not yet | 23:59 |
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| clarkb | SlickNik: the process is basiaclly the same as pushing ACLs so I think we can easily add that to jeepyb | 23:59 |
| clarkb | just need to change source files and destination refs | 23:59 |
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