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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: update log analyzer to do highlights https://review.openstack.org/80840 | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: update log analyzer to do highlights https://review.openstack.org/80840 | 17:36 |
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| Ajaeger | fungi, I'm back - took me a day ;) Just reading eavesdrop... | 17:50 |
| Ajaeger | will try to catch you tomorrow. | 17:50 |
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| mordred | sdague, SlickNik: I will say that, as much as clearly is a combination we need to support - running a postgres-based control plane to control a mysql-delivering trove install makes my head spin a little | 18:02 |
| sdague | mordred: fair enough. Though the fact that it can't pass pg tests is pretty much an indication that it's sql is pretty loose | 18:05 |
| sdague | I'm honestly more concerned that apparently trove has a bunch of requirements not in global requirements | 18:05 |
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| mordred | sdague: yah. same here | 18:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: make highlighting actually work https://review.openstack.org/80842 | 18:27 |
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| lifeless | is zuul having a hernia ? | 19:42 |
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| lifeless | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80457/ shows starting check jobs, but http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ shows nothing | 19:43 |
| lifeless | clarkb: / fungi: ^ | 19:43 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: fungi: nvm, its just really low load and fail-fast jobs from me end | 20:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Remove duplicate git setup in tests. https://review.openstack.org/80448 | 20:17 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Teach pbr about post versioned dev versions. https://review.openstack.org/80449 | 20:18 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Add a converter to version_tuples. https://review.openstack.org/80457 | 20:18 |
| openstackgerrit | SlickNik proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add mockito to global_requirements https://review.openstack.org/80850 | 20:18 |
| openstackgerrit | SlickNik proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add wsgi_intercept to global_requirements https://review.openstack.org/80851 | 20:18 |
| ruhe | lifeless: hi. can i ask you a couple of questions about testr? | 20:18 |
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| SlickNik | sdague / mordred: I looked into the differences between trove's requirements and global_requirements. And there's three main discrepancies (pexpect, mockito, and wsgi_intercept). | 20:19 |
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| SlickNik | sdague / mordred: The guest agent uses pexpect, and mockito and wsgi_intercept are test dependencies for some of the unit tests. | 20:20 |
| lifeless | ruhe: of course | 20:21 |
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| ruhe | lifeless: 1. does it run in parallel mode by default? | 20:22 |
| ruhe | lifeless: 2. if yes, how can i force sequential mode? | 20:22 |
| lifeless | 1) no. 2) --concurrency=1 | 20:22 |
| ruhe | we need that for storyboard to run tests against real MySQL and Postgres | 20:22 |
| lifeless | why? | 20:23 |
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| lifeless | mysql and postgres are multi user dbs | 20:23 |
| ruhe | lifeless: right :) that's our ultimate goal - to run tests against real DBs in parallel. but right now we need a quick workaround | 20:24 |
| lifeless | ruhe: anyhow, 1) is no | 20:24 |
| SlickNik | sdague / mordred: I've submitted https://review.openstack.org/80849, https://review.openstack.org/80850, and https://review.openstack.org/80851, but let's talk about what needs to be done here (whether this is okay, or whether some of this needs to be re-written to eliminate certain requirements). | 20:24 |
| lifeless | ruhe: if you're seeing parallel behaviour by default its in a layer above testr. | 20:24 |
| clarkb | but you dont need to workaround anything. just use a different schema per test | 20:24 |
| ruhe | lifeless: ok. thank you | 20:25 |
| lifeless | ruhe: http://testrepository.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ fwiw | 20:26 |
| lifeless | oh great distutils. mask exceptions. Vunderbar | 20:29 |
| lifeless | why folk think code like File "/usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/core.py", line 118, in setup | 20:30 |
| lifeless | is ever a good idea. | 20:30 |
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| ruhe | lifeless: it just looks like it's running in parallel (but i'm not sure). good you please take a look? http://logs.openstack.org/36/80836/4/check/gate-storyboard-python27/b0962f0/console.html#_2014-03-16_18_54_00_457 | 20:31 |
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| clarkb | if you use pbrs python setup.py test that is parallel | 20:33 |
| clarkb | but please fix the test dont work around it with concurrency=1 | 20:33 |
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| ruhe | clarkb: sure, i'd like to fix the root cause and i have a patch already https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80836/ , but it's very complicated. i've explained problems we have in commit message | 20:36 |
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| ruhe | In an ideal world we would do something like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59489/ or coordinate effort with Ceilometer and oslo.db teams | 20:41 |
| clarkb | It looks like something fixtures could help with | 20:41 |
| clarkb | and schema per test | 20:41 |
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| ruhe | clarkb: that's what we have now - there is DB fixture which runs migrations only once and memoizes DDL. then DDL is applied in each test run. BUT Alembic+SQLite problems aren't going anywhere, we still need to dance around them | 20:43 |
| clarkb | right so fixture for sqlite. and schema per test for concurrent mysql/postgres testing | 20:45 |
| lifeless | mordred: I've confirmed that pbr's sdist only includes committed content | 20:46 |
| lifeless | mordred: IIRC you said that would be a bug? should I file? | 20:46 |
| clarkb | ruhe: have you seen how nova does this? | 20:47 |
| clarkb | (ignore the oslo common lockutils because ugh) but the rest of it is decent | 20:48 |
| ruhe | clarkb: not only seen, but i ported related nova code to storyboard :) | 20:48 |
| clarkb | then I dont understand the issue | 20:49 |
| clarkb | nova works fine | 20:49 |
| clarkb | with sqlite | 20:49 |
| ruhe | they're still using sqlalchemy migrate | 20:49 |
| clarkb | and mysql/postgres for migrations | 20:49 |
| ruhe | which has internal workaround for sqlite | 20:49 |
| clarkb | ruhe but it doesnt migrate on sqlite iurc | 20:50 |
| clarkb | instead it loads a premigrated db into memory | 20:50 |
| clarkb | as a fixture | 20:50 |
| ruhe | clarkb: it runs migrations once - https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/test.py#n97 | 20:51 |
| lifeless | ugh | 20:52 |
| lifeless | mordred: so oslo.config has a version 1.3.0a0 | 20:52 |
| lifeless | mordred: that should be 1.3.0.alpha0 | 20:52 |
| lifeless | mordred: its a bad tag | 20:52 |
| lifeless | mordred: erm, I mean 1.3.0.a0 | 20:59 |
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| lifeless | mordred: should I accomodate that (translate to the semver docs in pbr) then adjust as appropriate, or should I say 'bad data' and fixup the various projects before we land this pbr change? | 20:59 |
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| ruhe | clarkb: and we do the same, and exactly in the same place we catch all the problems with SQLite's lack of ALTER operation | 20:59 |
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| clarkb | huh I thought the delta was carried in the repo not altered at test time | 21:00 |
| lifeless | clarkb: any thoughts ? ^ | 21:00 |
| clarkb | any idea what neutron does? they use alembic too iirc | 21:00 |
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| clarkb | lifeless the'a' is correct iirc | 21:01 |
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| clarkb | mordred wrote regexes to match it at least | 21:02 |
| lifeless | clarkb: its not correct per doc/source/semver.rst | 21:03 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: #. A pre-release version MAY be denoted by appending a dot | 21:03 |
| lifeless | separated identifier immediately following the patch version. | 21:03 |
| lifeless | ... | 21:03 |
| lifeless | version. Examples: 1.0.0.a1, 1.0.0.b99, 1.0.0.rc1000. | 21:04 |
| lifeless | clarkb: so 1.0.0a1 is invalid, 1.0.0.a1 is valid | 21:04 |
| ruhe | clarkb: neutron does the same thing i did in my patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80836/4/storyboard/db/api.py) - they populate DB schema from SQLAlchemy metadata for unit tests | 21:04 |
| clarkb | oh the dot is the issue | 21:04 |
| lifeless | yes | 21:04 |
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| lifeless | I can either put a heuristic in (with a lovely warning message, which will be a logging.WARN, not deprecation, because CPython made deprecations useless) | 21:06 |
| lifeless | or I can raise | 21:06 |
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| lifeless | and we can fixup our projects before using this. | 21:06 |
| dstufft | 1.0.0a1 is correct for PEP440 | 21:07 |
| dstufft | FWIW | 21:07 |
| * dstufft makes assumptions about what you're talking about | 21:07 | |
| clarkb | I am inclined to say bad data. but we should check the zuul pre release regex and fix that there too if necessary | 21:07 |
| ruhe | clarkb: but it brings another problem - how can we make sure that current SQLAlchemy models are in sync with what we from DB migration scripts? it's possible, but also involves a lot of magic code | 21:08 |
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| ruhe | * with what we produce from | 21:08 |
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| lifeless | still, I now know I need to add alpha support, so I'll add a test for that. | 21:09 |
| clarkb | ruhe: can't you build the model directly from both and compare? | 21:09 |
| clarkb | on mysql/postgres I suppose | 21:09 |
| ruhe | clarkb: almost all the people involved in oslo.db development are working on that - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74081/ | 21:09 |
| clarkb | so going back to the concurrency thing. how is that a problem? I am still trying to grok how serial tests are ok in this situation but parallel tests are not | 21:11 |
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| dstufft | lifeless: is that supposed to be a PEP440/Python version? oslo.config that is | 21:11 |
| ruhe | clarkb: in a serial mode i don't need to create and manage databases with random names. all i need to do - is to run migrations up to head in setUP and migrate to v0 in cleanup | 21:12 |
| lifeless | this raises another interesting point | 21:12 |
| lifeless | so folk are manually tagging alpha releases | 21:12 |
| lifeless | so what should the *autogenerated* version for 'one commit after alpha 0' be ? | 21:12 |
| lifeless | should be alpha1 - meaning they cannot manually tag alpha1 without it being at the best odd, semverly speaking | 21:12 |
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| clarkb | ruhe: you can do the same with parallel tests if you use a deterministic value as db ID | 21:13 |
| clarkb | pid is common | 21:13 |
| lifeless | there are existing fixtures to create on-demand postgresql clusters as well | 21:13 |
| lifeless | one cluster per test process | 21:13 |
| clarkb | or testname | 21:13 |
| dstufft | lifeless: 1.0.0a1.postN :V | 21:13 |
| clarkb | lifeless: alpha0.1? | 21:13 |
| lifeless | not valid per the semver docs | 21:13 |
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| lifeless | the semver docs are also inconsistent about the use of git metadata | 21:13 |
| lifeless | see the section #. git version metadata MAY be denoted by appending a dot separated | 21:14 |
| lifeless | claims dev version only, then demos with a pre-release version | 21:14 |
| ruhe | clarkb: lifeless: i agree, it's much better compared to sequential. can you point me to those existing fixtures? | 21:14 |
| lifeless | van.pg | 21:14 |
| lifeless | for postgresql (its a testresource, not a fixture, but same-same, minor glue needed) | 21:14 |
| sdague | SlickNik: so I think the requirements should end up being fine. It was just a surprise that trove had requirements we weren't tracking. Honestly, wsgi_intercept looks like something more projects should be using. | 21:16 |
| ruhe | lifeless: looks good, i'll give it a try | 21:16 |
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| mattoliverau | Monring | 21:21 |
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| * clarkb is brewing beer and the mash needs attention. can talk later | 21:28 | |
| * sdague needs to figure out an excuse to come out to seatle once clarkb's beer is ready | 21:35 | |
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| lifeless | dstufft: so pbr is confused then, as its doc isn't the same a PEP440 | 21:51 |
| lifeless | mordred: I'll sit on this till I get some input from you | 21:51 |
| dstufft | PEP440 uses .dev but just a | 21:52 |
| dstufft | so 1.0.dev0 | 21:52 |
| dstufft | 1.0a1 | 21:52 |
| lifeless | dstufft: sure, but see pbr's semver.rst | 21:52 |
| dstufft | where's that at | 21:52 |
| lifeless | dstufft: pbr/doc/source/semver.rst (or google for pbr semver) | 21:52 |
| fungi | tries to take pep 440 further and map semver concepts into it, basically | 21:53 |
| dstufft | yea it's got the syntax wrong | 21:54 |
| dstufft | slighly | 21:54 |
| fungi | there's every chance parts of it were written on a drinking binge... you never know | 21:55 |
| dstufft | some of this other stuff isn't valid PEP440 either | 21:56 |
| dstufft | like adding the git hash into the version | 21:57 |
| dstufft | and the + for build metadata | 21:57 |
| lifeless | AIUI it's not intended to be PEP440 since that doesn't do what we need. | 21:58 |
| lifeless | iInspiration for the format of the pre-release and build labels came from | 21:59 |
| lifeless | Python's PEP440. | 21:59 |
| dstufft | ok | 22:00 |
| dstufft | well at some point in the future the tooling will probably be stricter about versioning | 22:00 |
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| lifeless | do you mean 'you have to follow PEP440' ? | 22:01 |
| dstufft | well pip already requires some form of PEP440 or else you get marked as a pre-release | 22:03 |
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| dstufft | we'll be moving that to two seperate concepts in the future | 22:03 |
| dstufft | pre-release and PEP440 compliant | 22:03 |
| dstufft | at some point i'd like to make PyPI mandate PEP440, but that'll probably require a PEP of it's own | 22:05 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:05 |
| dstufft | reading the doc more in depth | 22:06 |
| dstufft | The git sha stuff looks redudandant to build tag | 22:06 |
| dstufft | and I would be for adding build tags to PEP440 | 22:06 |
| lifeless | dstufft: how is it redundant? | 22:07 |
| lifeless | dstufft: are you living the magical fairy pony world of non-compiled code? | 22:08 |
| lifeless | :) | 22:08 |
| dstufft | pretty sure a build tag can include a git tag and a build number ;) Both pieces of information are to be ignored by tooling so presumably they are for human use? | 22:08 |
| lifeless | well tooling shouldn't ignore them, since a pip install of a unique build has to replace the prior version | 22:09 |
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| dstufft | that's not what the doc says though, "Thus two versions that differ only in the git version, have the same precedence" if they have the same precidence they are equivilant | 22:10 |
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| dstufft | " Thus two versions that differ only in the build metadata, have the same precedence." | 22:11 |
| lifeless | hmmm | 22:12 |
| lifeless | guess so | 22:12 |
| dstufft | I'm not sure how else you'd handle a git tag tbh | 22:13 |
| dstufft | git commit* | 22:13 |
| dstufft | they can't be ordered in a way that makes sense semantically | 22:13 |
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| dstufft | same with build tag really | 22:14 |
| dstufft | since it's any alpha numeric | 22:15 |
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| dstufft | Anyways, the major reason for wanting to either enforce, or make it unconvienant to use anything other than PEP440 is PEP440 allows pretty much any sane versioning scheme (maybe with slightly different syntax) and without a defined scheme you're basically YOLO sorting your versions in the tooling | 22:17 |
| dstufft | I do think PEP440 should probably get a build tag though | 22:17 |
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| dstufft | https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi-metadata-formats/issue/31/allow-build-tags-in-pep440 | 22:20 |
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| dstufft | lifeless: also i'd really like to take this and make it compat with PEP440 and make it a recommendation PEP or something :V | 22:23 |
| fungi | the gitsha in the dev version string isn't so much for human consumption, i don't think, as to make sure it's unique. you can't necessarily count the number of commits since the last tag, because git is nonlinear except in trivial cases. honestly i think that any attempt to map linear versioning onto nonlinear metadata like vcs commit id is doomed to have corner cases where it fails to do so | 22:25 |
| fungi | after all, you might be 13 commits along on master and 5 commits along on your stable branch, both following the same release tag | 22:26 |
| fungi | which is strictly "newer? | 22:26 |
| fungi | but the bigger problem is that the fifth commit in series on your master branch is probably not identical to the fifth commit along on your stable branch since the common release tag where they split, so you need at least *some* way to differentiate versions built from them | 22:28 |
| fungi | incorporating the gitsha there is a way of at least keeping them from reporting identical version strings, even if you can't necessarily tell which one is strictly "newer" than the other (and being able to determine that likely doesn't matter anyway since we're talking about things like dev snapshot builds made locally and not published anywhere) | 22:29 |
| dstufft | yea, well it's also probably wrong anyime you use -e | 22:30 |
| dstufft | (In general versioning random commits automatically is basically an unsolvable problem, and I don't really think it actually matters in practice tbh) | 22:31 |
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