Sunday, 2014-02-02

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openstackgerritAlexandre Levine proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding jenkins jobs for gce-api project  https://review.openstack.org/7053000:03
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openstackgerritEli Klein proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added clone-workspace publisher  https://review.openstack.org/6953201:30
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clarkblooks like we have a bunch of slaves 57-54 hours old that never got deleted. Deleting them now03:10
clarkbalso I may have accidentally killed a node that was held in that timeframe sorry about that03:10
clarkbmeh I am just going to clean house, we can hold nodes in the future and these are more than a couple days old03:11
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fungiit was probably one i held and forgot to delete--no worries03:24
clarkbnot sure what happend ~56 hours ago03:26
clarkbbut I should have this cleaned up shortly03:26
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fungijenkins master restarts seem to have a tendency to leave nodepool cruft behind03:29
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fungihaven't figured out why, but i've seen it a few times and the timeframes seem to coincide03:33
clarkbjenkins02 has a bunch of nodes attached to it. Do we have unbalanced jenkins targets in the nodepool.yaml?03:36
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fungii didn't think so, but perhaps?03:44
* fungi adds03:44
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clarkbmight be unbalanced because the other masters "had" slaves03:45
clarkband I haven't given it enough time to balance out03:45
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fungi01 has an extra image (tripleo-fedora) with a min of 1, and 07 has an extra image (dsvm-precise-krnl) with a min of 103:46
fungiotherwise they look even to me03:46
fungias far as the min ratios anyway03:47
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clarkbthere are a bunch of bare-precise on 02, I figure its just unbalanced because the other masters claimed to have nodes03:48
fungiahh, yeah so if there are nodes in the nodepool database in a ready state assigned to a particular target but the corresponding jenkins master doesn't know about them, then nodepool will think it is distributing them evenly even though it's not03:50
fungiunder some circumstances i03:50
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fungii've seen those cruft ready nodes build up to the point where they reach the total min ready level and then nodepool stops bothering to make any new ones03:51
fungiand then the gate sits because there are no workers picking up jobs from the queues03:51
fungiand all the jobs are just indefinitely pending until we nodepool delete those ready nodes03:52
clarkbyeah that is basically what sdague noticed earlier today03:54
clarkbI have a hunch the lifeless changes will help this a lot03:54
clarkbsince they are more aggressive about deleting03:54
clarkbthe last batch of deletes are running now03:56
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clarkbmikal: did you just recheck everything ever? :)04:45
mikalclarkb: heh04:45
mikalclarkb: a little04:45
mikalzuul looked bored04:45
mikalBut...04:45
mikalI did it by hand, as part of code reviewing04:45
mikali.e. if I am reviewing something with a check older than 7 days I now recheck before I review04:46
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openstackgerritBill Maxwell proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: Refactor of YamlParser.parse method  https://review.openstack.org/7056305:08
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Alex_GaynorWhere did we get on publishing wheels for packages?05:17
clarkbAlex_Gaynor: we did it and it broke everything so we stopped. I think we still populate the mirror with them but don't consume them05:20
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Alex_Gaynormmm; is there a bug tracking the issue?05:20
clarkbmaybe? mordred was working it05:20
clarkblet me dig up git history and see05:21
clarkbAlex_Gaynor: http://logs.openstack.org/62/49062/11/gate/gate-keystone-python26/07e32fc/console.html.gz can't find a bug but thankfully there was a link to that log in the revert commit05:23
clarkbAlex_Gaynor: iirc it made pip case sensitive for some reason (or that appeared to be a symptom of the breakage)05:23
clarkbso pip install sphinx failed because it really wanted Sphinx05:23
Alex_Gaynorstrange! Was this enabling wheels specifically, or just upgrading the pip used?05:23
clarkbenabling wheels specifically05:24
Alex_GaynorWe're also still pinned at an older pip right?05:24
clarkbyes and older tox and older virtualenv05:24
clarkbtl;dr releasing backward compatible software is hard05:24
clarkbAlex_Gaynor: 343cff816b9ffd6d25d76481ba2a6a0eb7495352 is the revert commit in openstack-infra/config05:25
Alex_GaynorTrue story :-)05:25
clarkbyou can see what was undone there05:25
clarkbI should probably try picking up the unpinning of those05:27
clarkbsince mordred is at fosdem then elsewhere05:27
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clarkbbut first we have a superb owl to watch05:36
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Alex_Gaynorheheh05:38
clarkbhuh I just tried to duplicate the previous problems and had no trouble installing sphinx with pip 1.4.1 and 1.5 if I pointed pip at the wheels mirrors05:40
clarkbtime to try 1.405:40
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openstackgerritBill Maxwell proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: Refactor of YamlParser.parse method  https://review.openstack.org/7056305:42
clarkblooks like 1.4.1 used the non wheels sphinx tarball05:42
clarkbbut 1.5 used the wheel05:42
clarkbI assume defaults changed around those releases05:42
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Alex_GaynorYeah, wheels aren't on by default in 1.4, you need --use-wheel05:42
clarkbhuh I can't reproduce the problem locally. Will try giving it a shot in the test env later05:45
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chmouelare we starting to see attempted xss spam on gerrit ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65704/05:48
chmouel(how could it go thru the CLA system as well?)05:49
Alex_GaynorYou can comment without a CLA I believe05:49
chmoueloh okm but that seems to be a targetted attempt still05:50
clarkbAlex_Gaynor: correct05:50
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clarkbthe account id for that account is 1022606:03
clarkbI am a bit tired and weekendy to go updating the gerrit db06:03
clarkbbut maybe tomorrow before things get crazy I can poke at it or maybe fungi jeblair mordred will beat me to it06:04
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack-infra/gerritlib: Expose the gerrit watcher as a thread with defined transitions  https://review.openstack.org/7056406:10
clarkbmikal: https://twitter.com/mikal/status/429838622020616192 yw06:12
clarkbmikal: and the reason third party tests vote 'success' on failures is we told them to not vote properly06:12
clarkbits a lose lose situation but hopefully they get going well and start doing the +/-1 thing properly06:13
* lifeless still thinks 3rd party is a poor substitute for gates :)06:13
clarkbI agree, but we aren't testing hyperv upstream06:14
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lifelessclarkb: why not ?06:15
lifelessclarkb: I mean, if all the currently stated criteria are met06:15
lifelessclarkb: folk can reproduce locally; etc06:15
clarkblicensing is the big problem06:15
clarkbno they can't not without ^06:15
clarkbwe couldn't even get rhel licensing sorted, I really doubt windows would happen any time soon06:15
lifelesslet me check something06:16
clarkband even if we did it ignores devs that need to debug gate failures06:16
clarkbwe test open source software06:16
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lifelessright, so - hyperv is free(beer) software06:19
clarkb(note ^ not trying to single out hyperv it was just the topical example because that third party system is the one mikal was complaining about)06:19
lifelessanyone can download it and reproduce locally06:19
clarkblifeless: if you have a windows license which is not free as beer06:19
lifelessno06:19
lifelesshyperv is free.06:19
clarkbif you got to microsoft.com/hyper-v you can register for an evaluation06:21
clarkbbut that requires registration and isn't perpetually free. Unless there is some hidden download link06:21
lifelesshttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/evalcenter/dn205299.aspx06:21
lifelessI know it says evalcenter in the url06:22
clarkbthat is the evaluation06:23
clarkbthe grey block is what I ran into at microsoft.com/hyper-v06:23
clarkbbut doesn't matter we test open source software. Things that don't require registration and can be debugged locally by devs06:23
lifelesswindows 2012 server is the licensed product06:23
lifelessclarkb: we run on proprietary chips, so thats not entirely true end to end... I agree the registration thing is a pita06:24
lifelessclarkb: but local reproduction of issues isn't a problem for this particular case06:24
openstackgerritBill Maxwell proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: Refactor of YamlParser.parse method  https://review.openstack.org/7056306:24
clarkblifeless: are you suggesting we qemu even deeper? :P06:25
lifelessclarkb: if we want to make your statement true, yes ;)06:25
lifelessclarkb: if not, and given the prevailing culture of vendors, I suggest a more pragmatic approach :>06:25
clarkbthis is quite pragmatic06:26
clarkbwe have asked the vendors in qusetion with non open bits to perform the testing locally and provide that info upstream06:26
clarkbit helps with that test matrix thing we were talking about before06:27
clarkbtoo06:27
lifelesssure06:28
lifelessI was more talking about the critera06:28
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Add a tool that can fix the import order  https://review.openstack.org/6898806:29
lifelessif its 'multi-vendor redundancy for jobs, infra controlled, with people on the hook for addressing issues, and devs can debug locally'06:29
lifelessseems to me that in principle vmware, xen, hyper-v can all meet that (e.g. by donating sufficient region resources to the tripleo cloud and having hyperv be a hypervisor in the tripleo test matrix)06:30
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Add a tool that can fix the import order  https://review.openstack.org/6898806:30
openstackgerritKei YAMAZAKI proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Builds chain fingerprinter  https://review.openstack.org/6928406:31
openstackgerritKei YAMAZAKI proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Ci Skip Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/6954006:32
lifelessclarkb: I am still trying to run down chapter and verse on the license; peter p told me it was free, but it may be 'free if you have a windows os already...' which would not be the same thing ;)06:34
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openstackgerritKei YAMAZAKI proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Ci Skip Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/6954006:37
openstackgerritKei YAMAZAKI proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Builds chain fingerprinter  https://review.openstack.org/6928406:37
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clarkblifeless: it looks like that may be the case. You can get window 2012 r2 trial for 180 days for free, but after that must pay for either a standard OSE or datacenter OSE license which is money06:41
clarkbthe standard OSE can only run two VMs at a time06:41
lifelessclarkb: thats the server w/gui right? hyperv isn't that06:41
lifelessclarkb: hyperv can be *installed* on that06:42
clarkbif you have a standard or datacenter OSE liecene then hyperv comes with it06:42
clarkblifeless: I think that is how you install hyper06:42
clarkbI don't see a way to hyperv without the OSE06:42
lifelessthere's a dedicated ISO for it06:42
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lifelesshttp://care.dlservice.microsoft.com/dl/download/F/7/D/F7DF966B-5C40-4674-9A32-D83D869A3244/9600.16384.WINBLUE_RTM.130821-1623_X64FRE_SERVERHYPERCORE_EN-US-IRM_SHV_X64FRE_EN-US_DV5.ISO06:42
lifelessno gui06:42
lifelesshyper-V *is* the OSE - its the06:42
lifeless'operating system environment' - in that it provides VM's06:43
lifelessso it impacts the licence cost of running windows on top of it [at which point you're in proprietary land and I don't care :P]06:43
lifelessproprietary, licensed, I mean.06:43
mikalclarkb: why can't they vote +1 for pass and 0 for failure? That's working well for TH.06:47
clarkbmikal: I suppose they can, but I am not sure if we are configured to allow +1 without allowing -1 (we can allow that if necessary)06:48
mikalclarkb: hmmm, possibly06:48
clarkbmikal: can you bring that up on that thread? and folks can bug us if we need to make ACL changes to make that happen06:48
mikalIts super annoying at the moment because failures get masked06:48
mikalAlthough it looks to me that their current failure rate might indicate some sort of systems failure06:49
mikali.e. everything is failing06:49
clarkblifeless: I keep getting redirected to windows server 2012 r2 when trying to find a way to hyper-v. That download above does seem to be a thing, but it isn't easily findable06:49
clarkblifeless: so I am a bit confused. and it is time for bed06:52
lifelessclarkb: I hope to have a better answer in a bit, but AFAICT a) it's free but b) Microsoft don't want people to use it in preference to windows server :)06:53
lifelessprimeministerp: ^ please correct us :)06:54
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lifelessclarkb: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2011/02/01/make-sure-youre-compliant.aspx  "It's horribly named because Hyper-V and Hyper-V Server sound like the same thing. They're not. Hyper-V Server is free, so you can use it wherever you like. "06:59
mikalclarkb: if you're not gone... Is this py26 failure new to you?07:02
mikal> Feb  2 04:34:15 centos6-12 sudo:  jenkins : command not allowed ; TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-nova-python26 ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-nova-python26/.tox/py26/bin/nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf ipmitool raw 0x0a 0x2c 0x0007:02
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clarkblifeless: I am glad other people find it confusing too :)07:02
clarkbmikal: I haven't but that looks like a classic case of not properly mocking/faking/killing rootwrap in the unittests07:02
clarkbmikal: since we don't allow sudo on those nodes07:03
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clarkb(note we do allow sudo on the single use nodes and I have a change up to fix that for single use unittest slaves because I don't want nova running sudo when tox runs)07:03
mikalHuh07:04
mikalpy27 fails07:04
mikalI'll recheck py26 and see if it happens again07:04
mikalBut I'll keep an eye on it07:04
mikalGo to bed07:04
clarkbmikal: it could be a test order thing07:04
mikalSorry, py27 passed07:04
clarkbmikal: yeah py27 is running on a machine that would allow sudo07:04
clarkbwhich is a bug07:04
mikalHuh07:04
mikalSo, these patches do ipmi stuff07:04
mikalI will dig a bit deeper07:05
clarkbhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/69442/ will fix it for yp2707:05
mikalOk07:05
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lifelessclarkb: so I think the one I linked is the right one because http://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/evalcenter/dn205286.aspx?CR_CC=200142594 says '180 day trial', but the one I linked did not07:06
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clarkbya07:07
clarkblifeless: its funny if you click on the product details page on the non 180 day trial one it takes you to windows server :)07:08
clarkblifeless: so the names are confusing and the website is confusing and you need a microsoft account to register07:08
lifelessyes07:08
lifelessOTOH you need an account with us to push code, so meh.07:08
lifelessclarkb: actually, you don't need an account to download07:09
clarkbso its a mutliple registration process07:09
lifelessclarkb: you need an account to download without the url, but its now in our irc logs...07:09
clarkbha07:09
lifelesssince I"m downloading via wget, it's not cookie secured07:09
lifelessit might be IP secured I guess07:09
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zaroclarkb: hey, so it's the regex in layout-dev.yaml that's the problem?07:39
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mikalclarkb: is there a way I can find the email address for the hyper-v ci account? Is there a list somewherE?07:41
clarkbzaro: yes07:43
clarkbmikal hover over the account name in gerrit07:43
clarkbok really going to bed now gnite07:43
mikalclarkb: go to bed, but hyper v doesn't appear to have an email address07:46
mikalclarkb: it just says "5170"07:46
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openstackgerritLukasz Jernas proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add required steps to build translated install manual  https://review.openstack.org/7057410:16
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openstackgerritLukasz Jernas proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add required steps to build translated install manual  https://review.openstack.org/7057411:46
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ihrachys|fosdemfungi: hi again. in my case, the trigger is probably a merge of existing launchpad account with my private gmail account with the new one that was created for openstack contributions with redhat email. Once I realized launchpad fails to switch accounts easily, I've merged the accounts hoping everything will work ok, but it fails.13:10
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mordredlifeless: re criteria above - I think the use case is "As a developer, I want to be able to develop and debug OpenStack without being required to install non-free software"14:34
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mordredlifeless: I recognize and grant that there are a myriad of issues in fleshing that out into a fully legally binding description of where the line is14:35
mordredbut I think that the intent is and should be quite clear14:35
mordredas a developer, we shoudl not be blocking my patch on something that exists in a context that I am not allowed to do anything about14:36
mordredwe may fail to achieve that at times, and other things may break in trying to achieve it, because that's life14:37
mordredbut we should not give up on the concept merely because perfection is not reachable14:37
mordredwe shoudl also do whatever we can to not block our vendor friends from being first class citizens14:37
mordredbut as they are the ones who have chosen to employ some non-free bits in their software stack, and they are wanting to integrate with one that is open source14:38
mordredI would like for the bulk of the effort required to be a first class citizen to be on their shoulders14:38
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish draft docs on draft-docs  https://review.openstack.org/7059414:41
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Change test gerrit ssh/http ports offset  https://review.openstack.org/7059815:25
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish draft docs on draft-docs  https://review.openstack.org/7059415:28
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish draft docs on draft-docs  https://review.openstack.org/7059415:34
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anteayathree neutron patches got into the gate on reverify16:52
anteayaI'm watching them16:52
anteayawho is Alan Pevec?16:52
anteayano I am going to pull them, all three have failed in the gate previously16:54
anteayaif we can remove reverify, that would help me16:55
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anteayabut not entirely since the person trying to shoehorn them in is also a stable core17:07
anteayasigh17:07
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openstackgerritSascha Peilicke proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Bump lescpy to >=0.10  https://review.openstack.org/7061917:38
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harlowja_at_homeqq, if anyone is around, is it typical for pypi to be out of sync by like 12+ hours, http://logs.openstack.org/14/69814/13/check/gate-taskflow-python26/d4412b9/console.html (unable to find zake there which was uploaded last night)18:13
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harlowja_at_homeor maybe jenkins slaves are using some cache or something? https://pypi.python.org/pypi/zake/0.0.1418:14
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anteayajenkins slaves use a cache that is updated once in 24 hours18:15
anteayanot sure when the update runs18:15
clarkbsort of18:16
anteayayay18:16
anteayaclarkb will clarify18:16
clarkbthe mirror is populated from openstck/requirements so even though it is updated at least once a day it won't pick up zake18:16
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clarkbthings not in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/projects.txt can talk to the mirror and pypi directly. I am going to guess that pypi derped when pip tried to get it from there after it wasn't found on the mirror18:17
harlowja_at_homeclarkb,  interesting, its odd though that some slaves get the right version, some don't18:17
harlowja_at_homefor instance, one recheck had http://logs.openstack.org/14/69814/13/check/gate-taskflow-pep8/8e14930/console.html (pep8 fail)18:18
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clarkbit found version 0.0.1 to 0.0.9, possibly a problem with pypi CDN?18:18
harlowja_at_homeya, that would make sense, some CDN inconsistency18:18
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harlowja_at_homeodd that random slaves hit it i guess (http://logs.openstack.org/14/69814/13/check/gate-taskflow-python33/db85c91/console.html was hit by one running python33)18:19
harlowja_at_homepypi is evil, lol18:19
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harlowja_at_homewonder what there CDN cache expiration is, cause 0.0.9 is really old18:20
clarkbold? it is less than a week old18:20
harlowja_at_homeok, sorta really old, lol18:20
harlowja_at_homea little bit old18:21
harlowja_at_homelol18:21
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* harlowja_at_home will wait a little till later today to try recheck again, some cache somewhere is acting up18:23
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lifelessclarkb: o/ so whats the story w/neutron gate since overnight ?18:46
anteayaas far as I know, there is no change18:48
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BobBallDoes nodepool/scripts/cache_git_repos.py _really_ need to be run in an interactive shell?18:49
lifelessBobBall: no; it doesn't normally18:50
lifelessBobBall: why?18:50
BobBallreason for the question is that prepare_node.sh invokes it with sudo -i18:50
BobBallit does normally from what I can tell :)18:51
BobBallbut I don't understand my setup18:51
BobBallgot a nodepool setting up nodes in RAX18:51
BobBalland it's failing because sudo -i is setting up an interactive shell, which it doesn't get when you ssh into the box18:51
BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,427 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver: + DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive18:53
BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,427 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver: + apt-get --option Dpkg::Options::=--force-confold --assume-yes install -y --force-yes puppet git rubygems18:53
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BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,427 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver: ^MExtracting templates from packages: 33%^MExtracting templates from packages: 66%^MExtracting templates from packages: 100%18:53
BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,427 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver: + sudo git clone https://review.openstack.org/p/openstack-infra/config.git /root/config18:53
BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,427 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver: + sudo /bin/bash /root/config/install_modules.sh18:53
BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,427 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver: + '[' -z '' ']'18:53
BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,427 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver: + sudo puppet apply --modulepath=/root/config/modules:/etc/puppet/modules -e 'class {'\''openstack_project::slave_template'\'': }'18:53
BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,427 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver: Warning: Config file /etc/puppet/hiera.yaml not found, using Hiera defaults18:53
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BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,429 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver:    (at /root/config/modules/iptables/templates/rules.v6.erb:23:in `block in result')18:54
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BobBall2014-02-02 02:39:36,430 ERROR nodepool.image.build.rax-iad.devstack-xenserver: + sudo mkdir -p /opt/git18:55
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BobBallSo sorry!!!18:55
BobBallWas trying to paste the paste.openstack URL!18:55
BobBallhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/62324/18:55
clarkbBobBall: there is a change lifeless has up to get a tty. You probably don't absolutely need -i there but it will set env vars that git uses I think18:57
clarkbthe tty is necessary on fedora to do sudo at all18:57
clarkbBobBall: try nodepool with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69715/ applied18:58
lifelessBobBall: check in the nodepool repo; BobBall is xenserver closer to fedora than RHEL ?18:58
lifelessBobBall: also - remember we're happy to run xenserver in the tripleo test cloud once we've got enough hardware :)18:58
BobBallxenserver is a centos18:58
clarkblifeless: anteaya: yes, no change as far as I am aware18:58
BobBallbut this is actually an ubuntu node18:58
BobBallunderstood lifeless - but we're so close to getting it all working in RAX and we're on a tight deadline to make Nova happy :)18:59
clarkbyou can give it a shot to see if the -i is necessary. But I think the idea behind that was so that git had access to env vars that you might want like $HOME to find gitconfig and so on18:59
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lifelessBobBall: well, we can always add in a region later, if/when you're able - I'd love to do that because we could then be testing deploys as well19:00
BobBallDefinitely19:00
lifelessclarkb: isn't that -E ?19:00
BobBallI'll try that patch19:00
lifelessclarkb: -i is initial login19:01
clarkblifeless: right and sources all the appropriate things for you right?19:01
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clarkbyes login specific resources files will be read by the shell19:01
lifelessclarkb: -i is reset-harder.19:01
lifeless"""     As a special case, if sudo's -i option (initial login) is specified, sudoers will initialize the envi‐19:01
lifeless     ronment regardless of the value of env_reset.  The DISPLAY, PATH and TERM variables remain unchanged;19:02
lifeless     HOME, MAIL, SHELL, USER, and LOGNAME are set based on the target user.  On AIX (and Linux systems with‐19:02
lifeless     out PAM), the contents of /etc/environment are also included.  All other environment variables are19:02
lifeless     removed.19:02
lifeless"""19:02
clarkbwhcih is what we want19:02
clarkbthese repos should be jenkinsy not rooty19:03
clarkboh its the other way around in the script though19:04
clarkbI don't know then. probably don't need the -i19:04
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clarkboh theer are sudos that do what I thought they did I am not completely crazy, just the cache git repos one doesn't19:10
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Builds chain fingerprinter  https://review.openstack.org/6928419:15
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BobBallclarkb: Thanks - that change seemsto improve things.  I'll comment on the change tomorrow19:20
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clarkbanteaya: were you in ttx's talk today?19:41
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ttxclarkb: no she wasn't19:51
ttxclarkb: but jeblair was.19:51
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support site monitor publisher  https://review.openstack.org/6929019:52
anteayaclarkb: I'm sitting at home on my couch19:54
anteayawatching a movie and mucking with salt19:54
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clarkbttx: you are around. I figured you would be busy conferencing or traveling home or something19:58
clarkbanteaya: didn't stay for fosdem?19:58
ttxtraveling home right now19:59
clarkbttx: how did the talk go?19:59
ttxclarkb: quite well! The numbers kind of mesmerized the audience.20:00
ttxLots of questions afterwards20:00
ttxPeople interested in adopting the same model.20:00
clarkbnice20:00
ttxjeblair reassured everyone that we can also scale DOWN.20:00
clarkb:)20:01
clarkbit seems to work quite well for the smaller stackforge projects20:01
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ttxWe stopped short of trolling Kohsuke on the jenkins booth about not needing jenkins anymore.20:02
anteayaclarkb: never was in europe20:02
anteayawas in Salt Lake City for SaltConf then came hoem20:02
anteayastaying home for Feb20:02
clarkbanteaya: oh why did I think you went to the sprint20:03
anteayaUtahDave went to fosdem20:03
anteayaI did reply to the invitation email20:03
anteayato say I wanted to go but couldn't due to conflict20:03
anteayapart of me would have liked to have gone, but my body is sure glad I didn't20:04
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anteayattx had nice slides though20:04
anteayaso i would have liked to have seen his talk20:04
ttxanteaya: been recorded20:04
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anteayawoohoo20:04
anteayattx: ping me the link once it is up20:04
anteayabetter yet tweet it to me so I can retweet20:05
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ttxwill do.20:05
ttxShould take SOME time. Videos are new to #FOSDEM.20:05
anteayabtw UtahDave coined InfraStack during our talk on Thursday20:05
anteayaI kind of like it20:05
anteayattx k20:05
anteayawe were talking about SaltStack and infra in OpenStack20:06
anteayait just slipped out, he didn't even realize he said it20:06
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ttxanteaya: so... it "resonates" nicely but tends to reinforce the popular belief that it's specific to openstack20:07
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anteayaokay20:08
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anteayaummmm, not sure I agree though20:08
* ttx does a few reviews before data runs out20:08
anteayaSaltStack, InfraStack20:08
anteayacould be automated infrastructure for any project20:09
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Allow projects that only differ by org  https://review.openstack.org/7062620:10
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Adding jenkins jobs for gce-api project  https://review.openstack.org/7053020:12
anteayaI am now being personally spammed by IBM vacation announcements20:14
anteayaHappy Spring Festival Hua BJ Zhang20:15
clarkbmordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69516/ any chance you can communicate to them that they should idle on irc too? makes things much easier :)20:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard: Added documentation for REST API layer.  https://review.openstack.org/6921220:16
anteayaI can't even email him to ask him to stop spamming me20:17
clarkbanteaya: you can bitbucket the vacation notices20:17
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anteayaby bitbucket to you mean post them to bitbucket or filter them out and delete them automatically?20:18
mordredclarkb: yah20:19
anteayahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/62334/20:20
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Use openstack-doc-tools gates for openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/6966920:20
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mordredpleia2: also, coudl you comment on https://review.openstack.org/7062620:21
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update fingerprints to support grenade  https://review.openstack.org/7048720:21
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pleia2mordred: sure, I'll have to toss this up on my demo cgit to make sure the config doesn't do anything weird20:25
mordredpleia2: well, I mean, it is sunday20:25
mordredpleia2: so don't go too crazy - I just wanted to make sure you saw it20:25
pleia2mordred: sure20:26
anteayahey pleia220:26
lifelessanteaya: is there a bug for this -20:26
lifelesshttp://logs.openstack.org/49/70549/2/check/check-devstack-dsvm-neutron/7e11c05/console.html20:26
lifeless2014-02-02 19:01:16.106 | /opt/stack/new/devstack/exercises/floating_ips.sh:186:ping_check20:26
lifeless2014-02-02 19:01:16.107 | /opt/stack/new/devstack/functions:1733:_ping_check_neutron20:26
lifeless2014-02-02 19:01:16.107 | /opt/stack/new/devstack/lib/neutron:898:die20:26
lifeless2014-02-02 19:01:16.107 | [ERROR] /opt/stack/new/devstack/lib/neutron:898 [Fail] Could ping server20:26
anteayadid you see my message from Thursday about wikimedia also upgrading from puppet2.7 to puppet3?20:26
anteayalifeless: looking20:27
lifelessanteaya: the good news is it didn't crash the kernel...20:27
anteayayay for good news20:29
clarkbmordred: is that jeepyb change tested?20:31
clarkbthe allow only org differences change20:31
anteayalifeless: devstack exercises aren't used anymore in neutron master20:32
anteayasdague knows the full story, but he is winging his way to Korea20:33
clarkbwhich is different than whinging20:33
mordredclarkb: yes. I just used it on two machines behind an iron curtain20:33
clarkbmordred: thanks going to approve20:33
anteayafrom what I understand, they are no longer used in master because folks in neutron weren't aiming to keep them working, so it was decided (not sure who all was involved in the decision) to not use devstack exercises in neutron anymore20:34
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Allow projects that only differ by org  https://review.openstack.org/7062620:34
anteayafrom neutron's standpoint we need to get them workin in havana (which they haven't been) in order to get grenade working20:34
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/git-review: Change test gerrit ssh/http ports offset  https://review.openstack.org/7059820:34
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lifelessanteaya: interesting; however this aborts before tempest when they fail?20:35
* anteaya looks again20:35
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anteayaI'm still looking20:41
anteayawhy is this in the devstack trace? http://paste.openstack.org/show/62335/20:42
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anteayathis was within the Begin DevStack Exercise: /opt/stack/new/devstack/exercises/neutron-adv-test.sh output20:42
clarkbanteaya: I need a lot more context than that20:43
lifelessanteaya: I'm guessing its cisco code...20:43
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anteayaclarkb: I am looking at this log file: logs.openstack.org/49/70549/2/check/check-devstack-dsvm-neutron/7e11c05/20:45
anteayafrom lifeless20:45
anteayalifeless: from the branding pasted everywhere maybe?20:45
clarkboh they put the copyright notice in the exercises as echos20:46
clarkblol20:46
lifelesshi lar i ous20:46
anteayadon't want to miss a spot to shove a copyright notice20:46
anteayathis is as bad as babysitting children20:46
anteayafinding food under teh couch cushions20:46
anteayaso I am also seeing this error: ERROR neutron.common.legacy [-] Skipping unknown group key: firewall_driver20:47
anteayaI'm wondering if having firewall_driver having skipped keys might play a role in the whole failure to ping scenario20:48
anteayabut the original question was, do I know if there is a bug for this?20:48
anteayano, I have not seen a bug report for this error previously20:48
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anteayamordred: can you address this in some fashion? http://paste.openstack.org/show/62335/20:50
anteayathis is a bit much20:50
lifelessanteaya: just submit a patch to fix it20:50
anteayabut the motivation still remains20:51
anteayaI can do that20:51
anteayabut like moles it will just show up somewhere else20:51
lifelessmordred can't fix motivation20:51
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anteayaI'm open for suggestions20:51
lifelessa) reviewers should catch it and b) if its broken fix it20:51
anteayatrue20:52
anteayaI wonder who approved it20:52
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clarkbits not that big of a deal. I just found it slightly funny20:54
openstackgerritPeter Portante proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update fingerprint for bug 1270608  https://review.openstack.org/6970220:55
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fungianteaya: if you're really interested in the sordid history of whatever patch(es) introduced that, 'git blame exercises/quantum-adv-test.sh' will get you to https://review.openstack.org/10828 and https://review.openstack.org/6500220:58
fungibut yeah, just submit a patch to turn those into shell comment lines so they'll be silenced. it's mainly just a case of people being new to the whole free software scene21:00
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fungiand the core reviewers either not noticing or not considering it a big deal21:01
anteayaI had just submitted a patch to remove the lines21:02
anteayahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/70628/121:03
anteayanone of the other exercise scripts have any use of the word copy in them21:05
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anteayathe first patch to get them in was a 489 line change21:06
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anteayaI'll go with the size was how it got past sdague21:06
anteayafungi: can you help me fill in a missing piece using git blame? http://paste.openstack.org/show/62341/21:10
anteayaI got that far21:10
anteayathen I took the sha to git.openstack.org and tried to look for it in search and came up empty21:10
anteayathen I tried to find that date in the git.o.o search and again came up empty21:10
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fungianteaya: that git sha should be findable on git.o.o but i just plugged it into the search field on review.o.o21:11
fungiyeah, it's on git.o.o too... https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/?id=ea23e68621:12
anteayaon git.o.o on master, using log message and putting ea23e686 in the text box I get nothing21:12
anteayawhat am I doing wrong?21:12
fungigood question--i'm too used to just composing the urls myself. i'll see if i can get the search to yield it instead21:12
anteayaah21:12
anteayaI wondered if that was what you were doing21:13
clarkb`git show $SHA1` locally21:13
fungilooks like maybe the search in cgit doesn't have a search type for sha21:13
anteayaah21:13
anteayaclarkb: that works21:14
fungii mainly only plugged it into review.o.o to capture any review comments and related context though. to just look at the change yes i do what clarkb suggested21:14
anteayak21:15
anteayaworks well on review.o.o21:16
anteayaI have the tired and grumpy21:16
anteayaI am hoping my osteo is back from holiday this week and I can get my back fixed21:16
anteayahave had a headache for 2 weeks now21:16
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openstackgerritPeter Portante proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add fingerprint for bug 1266616 (was bug 1273479)  https://review.openstack.org/6967021:21
anteayaclarkb: you going to a party for the game?21:21
anteayafungi: :D21:22
anteayaI am a horrible speller21:23
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clarkbanteaya: no, just quiet watching at home with chili, cornbread, and beer21:28
fungii'll pass on supersportball, but am 100% sold on the chili, cornbread and beer of which you speak21:29
anteayaclarkb: nice21:30
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anteayaI'll probably watch the game when it starts21:30
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anteayaI can't deal with the 8 hours of hypeTV beforehand though21:30
clarkbanteaya: ya not watching the hype stuff21:30
clarkbfungi: it is good stuff21:31
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jheskethMorning21:49
anteayamorning21:52
jheskethImpressive, it's been a long time since I've seen the gate so short :-)21:53
anteaya:)21:54
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mattoliverauGood morning22:15
anteayamorning mattoliverau22:16
anteayaback amoung the boxes?22:16
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jog0jhesketh: according to openstack/openstack we broke a record for merges in a single week22:22
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jog0https://github.com/openstack/openstack/graphs/commit-activity 42622:22
jheskethsweet :-)22:22
anteaya426 nice22:23
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bknudsonwho was doing all those commits?22:28
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StevenKjog0: Do you have a few minutes to re-review my nova patches now?22:29
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jog0StevenK: sure, I have 10 minutes infact22:31
StevenKjog0: Excellent :-)22:31
jog0StevenK: link22:31
StevenKjog0: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69060/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69108/22:31
mordredjog0: wow22:33
mordredjog0: I wish that repo went back further - but I'm super happy it exists22:33
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jog0mordred: yeahI use it almost every day22:34
mattoliverauanteaya: yeah pretty much, I spent most of last week in Sydney, and the wife is off on the work trip this week, so now it's just me and the boxes :P Apparently I'm married, if we are ever both in the same city :P22:34
portantesuper great job on working down the gate issues, all22:34
jog0its great for seeing what may have caused a new bug22:34
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jog0StevenK: for 69108 the bug report is pretty vague22:43
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anteayamattoliverau: sometimes the only way you can tell is the boxes22:46
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anteayaso I am told22:46
mattoliveraulol22:46
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anteayaokay 14 minutes23:14
anteayain and no football yet23:14
anteayaconsidering coming back in half an hour or so23:15
anteayathe pre-kick show?23:15
clarkbkickoff is ~3:3023:15
clarkbPST23:15
clarkbso 15 minutes from now23:15
anteayak, I'll come back then23:15
anteayaCorner Gas23:16
anteayamuch more activity going on there23:16
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mordredclarkb: the sportsball here has german comentators23:20
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clarkbbetter than joe buck and troy aikman I am sure23:21
clarkbI am ready to SAP this broadcast23:21
clarkbI would almost be ok with the game being on ESPN if we got the MNF team23:22
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StevenKclarkb: Currently, if I want to watch live, I need to go and visit a bar at 1030am23:24
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clarkbStevenK: do it! when I was in perth games were broadcast live there on some sports channel23:24
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mordredclarkb: also, seriously - do we REALLY need this much patriotism?23:25
fungi10:30am is kinda late on a monday to be getting to the bar. breakfast would be nearly over23:26
clarkbmordred: not really. But I think it has become one of those things where each network has to outdo the last otherwise they will be unpatriotic23:26
StevenKI could get pay TV. But that requires lead time, and my wife and I don'23:26
StevenKt watch nearly enough TV23:26
anteayado they have all day breakfast at some bars?23:26
clarkbStevenK: wait you haev broadcast tv I thought23:26
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mordredmmm. all day breakfast23:27
fungianteaya: depends on what you like for breakfast23:27
StevenKclarkb: Free to air isn't showing the sportsball23:27
clarkbmordred: you should try watching the superbowl on the armed forces network sometime23:27
anteayaI like Fran's for 5am breakfast23:27
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anteayafungi: true23:27
anteayahttp://www.fransrestaurant.com/23:28
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clarkbmordred: you get the normal patriotism but they cut to commercial and its ads for like glocks and stuff23:28
StevenKOh, it looks like One is. How about that.23:28
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anteayanothing more patriotic then a glock I guess?23:29
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fungifor a german broadcast i guess that would be patriotic23:31
mordredwell, if by glock you mean glockenspiel23:31
anteayafungi: I tend towards eggs for breakfast, eggs florentine or an omelette23:31
fungioh, wait, glock is austrian, not german. nevermind23:31
anteayaI could get behind a glockenspiel23:31
anteayaor a bonspiel23:32
fungiwith a par of mallets?23:32
fungipair23:32
anteayathat would be Canadian patriotism23:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard: Get rid of Django  https://review.openstack.org/6601623:34
mordredDOOD23:34
mordredclarkb: that'sa  way to start23:34
clarkbyes there may have been shouting :)23:35
anteayawas that the first play?23:35
mordredanteaya: it was the second play that was exciting23:35
anteayaa great beginning23:36
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anteayaI'll try to pay attention now23:36
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Don't encourage reverify  https://review.openstack.org/7063223:37
anteayawow23:37
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anteayamordred: have you met mattoliverau23:42
anteayamikal pays him and he works with us23:42
anteayahe is learning what to do23:42
mikalmordred: yeah, don't make me come over there and whine at you23:42
mikal:P23:42
anteayanot sure who the half person is yet23:42
mikalI'd count jhesketh as a 0.5 as well23:42
anteayaah makes sense23:42
mikalHe's doing infra stuff, but sometimes goes off on turbo hipster tangents, which I am not sure count as infra23:43
fungii met jhesketh and he seems like a whole person to me23:43
mattoliverauHey mordred23:43
mikalLIES23:43
fungimikal i'm less sure about ;)23:43
mikalHeh23:43
fungimikal may very well be a robot23:43
anteayamattoliverau: speaking of which, how are you doing?23:43
mordredI've heard many things about mattoliverau23:43
mikalI'm a manager, that makes me less of a person I think23:43
mordredmost of them good23:44
fungiahh, yes, a SOULLESS robot then23:44
mordredI look forward to him becoming infra-core23:44
mattoliveraumordred: I'm glad to hear that I'm managed to cover up the bad ;P23:44
mattoliveraus/i'm/i've/23:44
* mordred may have just decided to only ever talk about mattoliverau in the third person for some weird reason23:44
mikalSo... Does Randy contribute anything to OpenStack? Or does he just complain? I can't tell.23:44
mikalHeh23:44
mordredmikal: he contributes using it as part of his business23:44
fungimikal complaints could be seen as a form of contribution23:44
mordredmikal: he HAS contributed in the past23:45
mattoliverauanteaya: yeah I'm doing well. Back at it today. But me thinks most people are off watching football :P23:45
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mordredjog0 used to work for him, as did ewindisch - and both did lots of upstream work23:45
anteayawe are doing that yes, and also avaliable for questions23:45
mikalmordred: he seems to mostly complain that we're not working on the features he wants for his business but wont fund himself.23:45
mordredso I don't want to give randy too hard of a time. he'd also likely contribute the gce stuff directly if nova would take it23:45
anteayaactually this is a good time for questions since we are distracted by anything other than football23:46
mattoliverauGetting some coffee brb.23:46
mordredmikal: I think he's frustrated that he wants to contribute the features he cares about and keeps getting told to shove it23:46
anteayamattoliverau: k23:46
mikalmordred: well, if only those features would be discussed before they go off in weird tangents23:46
mordredmikal: bah23:47
* fungi thought nova was already a tangent. or maybe a cosecant23:48
mikalfungi: you seem a little... trolly... today23:48
fungii woke up under a bridge23:49
mikalHeh23:50
mordredmikal: do you remember back when we each just wrote code?23:50
mikalmordred: yeah, happy days23:51
mikalI spent the Christmas break triaging bugs, because all the minions were away23:51
mikalIt was lovely23:51
anteayawait until I get you using salt23:54
anteayayou will have more minions that you can put into blue overalls23:54
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anteayas/that you/than you23:55
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anteayawb23:57
anteayawhat is up first for you?23:57
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mattoliverauanteaya: finishing of my puppet-itsation of Turbo Hipster. I have a forked infra config repo it's living in, so now it's in infra format, it can be merged when TH takes over the world :P23:59

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