| jeblair | seems like we should just change devstack to stop configuring syslog for swift then... | 00:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Rename launchpad parameter to group https://review.openstack.org/63157 | 00:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Remove the hardcoded project list https://review.openstack.org/63158 | 00:00 |
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| jeblair | flashgordon: started without error | 00:01 |
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| flashgordon | hmm | 00:02 |
| mordred | jeblair: I agree - I think devstack should not use syslog for swift if SYSLOG=False is set | 00:02 |
| flashgordon | mordred: sounds logical | 00:02 |
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| mordred | except I think that I remember that swift doesn't have a not-syslog logging possibility? | 00:02 |
| jeblair | i think i've done all i can here. | 00:03 |
| jerryz | sdague: do you know what is the circumstance screen quit fails to kill the nova-* service every time? that's is what happened in my env. I am just curious. | 00:03 |
| jeblair | flashgordon: if you don't object, i'm going to delete this node now. | 00:04 |
| flashgordon | jeblair: go for it | 00:04 |
| flashgordon | t | 00:04 |
| flashgordon | too bad in cases like this we can't do a massive bisect test | 00:04 |
| jeblair | flashgordon: i am inclined to believe this is not a bug in python code, but rather i think the solution is to either stop logging to syslog or have devstack be more robust about how it restarts rsyslogd | 00:06 |
| jeblair | i have to head out now | 00:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: zuul status: Collapse changes by default https://review.openstack.org/63019 | 00:24 |
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| pleia2 | anteaya: btw, I emailed the haecksen organizer and they emailed me my full talk abstract | 00:42 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: I felt silly doing so, "thanks for accepting my talk, what was it again?" :P | 00:42 |
| pleia2 | (ok, ok, I knew in general) | 00:43 |
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| anteaya | ha ha ha | 00:49 |
| anteaya | pleia2: that is what I am going to have to do too | 00:49 |
| anteaya | I was just going to arrive and read the schedule on Monday to find out what I was going to talk about | 00:49 |
| anteaya | :D | 00:49 |
| anteaya | but your way is better | 00:51 |
| flashgordon | jeblair: I agree, although I can't figure out why this started up all of a sudden | 00:51 |
| flashgordon | jeblair: will update the bug | 00:51 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: I'm happy to know I'm not the only one who forgot, so thank you for that :) | 00:55 |
| * dims catching up | 00:55 | |
| dims | flashgordon, so there is some interaction between ovs* processes and rsyslogd? | 00:55 |
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| clarkb | zaro: I think I have a fix | 00:57 |
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| flashgordon | dims: thats a very good guess | 00:57 |
| zaro | clarkb: wat? | 00:57 |
| clarkb | zaro: I moved the creation of the session and channel from the perform() job call (in the job thread) to the console copy thread | 00:57 |
| flashgordon | dims: but I think the fix is to not use rsyslog | 00:58 |
| dims | flashgordon, +1 | 00:58 |
| flashgordon | at least for now | 00:58 |
| flashgordon | (as in we can revisit that later) | 00:58 |
| clarkb | zaro: will need to clean this up to cut down on the number of ssh connections but I think the Jsch session was having trouble being used across threads (eg not threadsafe) | 00:58 |
| zaro | clarkb: are those needed in the parent? | 00:58 |
| clarkb | zaro: yes the parent needs them for the normal file copies | 00:58 |
| zaro | clarkb: so is that a new instance in the console thread? | 00:59 |
| clarkb | zaro: yup | 00:59 |
| clarkb | zaro: I think the session object isn't thread safe | 00:59 |
| anteaya | pleia2: glad I can help in any way possible | 00:59 |
| anteaya | :D | 01:00 |
| clarkb | zaro: so that will need to be refactored cleanly (my current test code is really ugly) | 01:00 |
| clarkb | and with that I am headed home | 01:00 |
| dims | flashgordon, still don't know why it cropped up all of a sudden right? | 01:00 |
| zaro | clarkb: cool, you want to do the cleanup or did you want me to try that on my end? | 01:00 |
| zaro | clarkb: try the fix i mean. | 01:01 |
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| flashgordon | dims: no idea | 01:01 |
| flashgordon | dims: my hunch is a strange dependency change | 01:01 |
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| flashgordon | dims: if only we had the equavalent of 'git bisect' in openstack | 01:03 |
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| dims | :) | 01:08 |
| flashgordon | dims: so it would require a bunch of infra support but shouldn't be that bad I think | 01:08 |
| flashgordon | and would be very useful | 01:08 |
| flashgordon | except it would use a ton of VMs | 01:08 |
| jeblair | flashgordon: it would not require any infra support. | 01:09 |
| jeblair | flashgordon: here's the tree to bisect: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack/ | 01:10 |
| flashgordon | can you just run git review on that ? | 01:10 |
| flashgordon | if so then sweet | 01:10 |
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| jeblair | flashgordon: no, you aren't allowed to propose changes to that repo | 01:11 |
| jeblair | flashgordon: but you don't need to propose a change to test it. most people who work on openstack have access to a cloud provider | 01:11 |
| flashgordon | jeblair: so devstack supports openstack/openstack repo? | 01:13 |
| jeblair | flashgordon: i doubt it. i didn't say there was a ready-made solution for this, i just said that you don't need any infra support to get started on it. | 01:13 |
| flashgordon | jeblair: get started no, | 01:14 |
| jeblair | or finished | 01:14 |
| flashgordon | but if we wanted to have this use infra resources -- which we very well may not | 01:14 |
| flashgordon | also timeline of dependency changes | 01:14 |
| flashgordon | but there is a lot that can be done right now | 01:15 |
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| flashgordon | we did the revery per project test for another bug a while back with good results | 01:16 |
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| clarkb | zaro: go for it. I think more people familiar with that codeis good | 01:38 |
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| clarkb | zaro: the trick is going to be waiting until you absolutely need a session to create one that way we only create as many sessions as necessary | 01:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: PyXML required for XML output to be consistent https://review.openstack.org/63579 | 10:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support lazy resolving of include yaml tags https://review.openstack.org/63580 | 10:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Use yaml local tags to support including files https://review.openstack.org/48783 | 10:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kei YAMAZAKI proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Github notifier https://review.openstack.org/63583 | 14:40 |
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| enikanorov__ | hi infra folks. is there any way to enable neutron-pg and neutron-pg-isolated jobs for particular patch being submitted to nova gerrit queue? | 16:28 |
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| enikanorov__ | I'm investigating on of the gate failures with neutrion-pg&isolated and i want to debug it from nova side | 16:29 |
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| enikanorov__ | but the patch to nova never failed the gate. apparently because it was not run against neutron-pg* job | 16:30 |
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| fungi | enikanorov__: one option would be to add those jobs to an experimental pipeline for nova in openstack-infra/config modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml, and then once that merges you can leave a "recheck experimental" comment on your nova change | 17:06 |
| fungi | enikanorov__: the alternative would be to follow the "simulating devstack gate tests" instructions in the README.rst of openstack-infra/devstack-gate | 17:07 |
| enikanorov__ | fungi: thanks | 17:07 |
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| cody-somerville | https://github.com/walmartlabs/mupd8 <-- interesting. | 19:21 |
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| fungi | cody-somerville: now try to sell savanna on it ;) | 19:25 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I see savanna word :) | 19:28 |
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| fungi | SergeyLukjanov: i commend your skillful use of irc keyword triggers ;) | 19:33 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | yup, it's really useful when you have +12h timezone ;) | 19:38 |
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| fungi | (or when you lurk in dozens of channels any of whom might need your help on a particular topic) | 19:40 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | exactly! | 19:42 |
| fungi | SergeyLukjanov: speaking of which, in case anyone hasn't said it recently enough, i REALLY appreciate all the help you've been providing and i know others feel the same. thank you! | 19:48 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | fungi, thank you, I'm really glad to help you guys! | 19:59 |
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| clarkb | indeed | 21:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: if you are looking for random interesting fun game to play Don't Starve is pretty awesome | 21:12 |
| fungi | clarkb: thanks for the tip | 21:17 |
| fungi | currently i'm playing "learn how to temper chocolate" | 21:17 |
| fungi | it's a very long, very boring game, but in the end you win chocolate | 21:17 |
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| anteaya | fungi: are you using a double-boiler? | 21:44 |
| fungi | anteaya: makeshift, but yes (steel bowl sitting on standoffs in a pot of water) | 21:45 |
| anteaya | that counts | 21:45 |
| anteaya | may you end up with good chocolate | 21:46 |
| fungi | apparently the trick is to get the chocolate above 105f (for you imperialists), then down into the low 80s f, add some already-tempered chocolate and stir vigorously while bringing it back up to 88f but no hotter (for dark chocolate), then do what you're going to do with it and let it cool normally | 21:47 |
| fungi | it's taking a bit of practice | 21:47 |
| anteaya | I have never done what you are attempting | 21:47 |
| anteaya | how easy is your thermometer to read when coated in steam? | 21:47 |
| fungi | instant-read digital stick (not a traditional glass candy thermometer) so works fairly well for this | 21:48 |
| anteaya | good | 21:48 |
| fungi | also you don't need steam. just hot enough water (after all, most chocolate melts at well under half the boiling temperature of water) | 21:49 |
| anteaya | well my experience in firing clay tells me that slow temp changes leave me the happiest | 21:49 |
| anteaya | sounds like you are already doing that though, the boring part | 21:49 |
| anteaya | that is true | 21:49 |
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| anteaya | are you doing chocolate covered fruit? | 21:50 |
| fungi | peppermint bark | 21:50 |
| anteaya | or homemade truffles? | 21:50 |
| anteaya | really? | 21:50 |
| anteaya | I've never had to go through that myself when I make a chocolate bark type product | 21:51 |
| fungi | didn't want to get too complicated since i don't normally venture too far into the realm of confection | 21:51 |
| anteaya | just melt the chocolate, add in the stuff, pour onto paper on cookie sheet, clean up | 21:51 |
| fungi | but i want it to keep at room temperature and not melt when held | 21:51 |
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| anteaya | ha ha ha ha | 21:51 |
| anteaya | that has never been a concern of mine | 21:52 |
| fungi | and the higher melting point requires tempering | 21:52 |
| anteaya | so I am keen to hear your results | 21:52 |
| * fungi enjoys geeking out on kitchen chemistry and physics | 21:52 | |
| anteaya | go you | 21:52 |
| anteaya | have you tried sponge toffee yet | 21:52 |
| anteaya | that will keep you going for a few rounds | 21:52 |
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| anteaya | I saw a friend of mine's failure once and never tried it myself | 21:53 |
| anteaya | only willing do make stuff I am willing to eat regardless of how it turns out | 21:53 |
| anteaya | turns out well, share | 21:54 |
| anteaya | flops, I eat it myself | 21:54 |
| fungi | sounds delicious, though i generally limit my adventures to dairy-free things so that i can also eat some | 21:54 |
| fungi | vegan, in fact, so that christine can also enjoy it | 21:54 |
| fungi | and since she also is allergic to nuts, it gets even more complicated | 21:55 |
| anteaya | http://www.canadianliving.com/food/sponge_toffee.php | 21:55 |
| anteaya | sugar and baking soda | 21:55 |
| anteaya | the trick is to get the baking soda in at the right time so it puffs up | 21:56 |
| anteaya | hence the "sponge" part of sponge toffee | 21:56 |
| fungi | oh neat. i've never seen toffee recipes which didn't need butter. i'll give that one a try | 21:56 |
| anteaya | canadianliving has a good test kitchen | 21:56 |
| anteaya | I'll be interested to hear your results | 21:56 |
| anteaya | if it fails you end up with a pot of melted sugar | 21:57 |
| anteaya | no poof | 21:57 |
| anteaya | I have no way of using a pot of melted sugar so I have never tried this one myself | 21:58 |
| anteaya | yay, happy solstice | 22:05 |
| anteaya | moon is in Capricorn | 22:05 |
| anteaya | sorry sun | 22:06 |
| anteaya | sun is in capricorn | 22:06 |
| fungi | happy solstice to you too. we're heading out to a solstice/yule party momentarily | 22:27 |
| anteaya | have a wonderful time | 22:30 |
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