| jhesketh | Morning | 00:01 |
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| reed | russellb, you there? | 00:13 |
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| SlickNik | clarkb / mordred / lifeless: pypi caches seem to be updated. I'm seeing the fix in the new release and trove int-tests are running green again. | 00:20 |
| SlickNik | Thanks much! <3 | 00:20 |
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| lifeless | SlickNik: \o/ | 00:20 |
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| clarkb | SlickNik: yay | 00:33 |
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| sdague | clarkb: and I thought we'd fixed that tempest test | 00:48 |
| sdague | that thing is crazy, it fails like once a month | 00:48 |
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| clarkb | :( | 00:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Petrello proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Run tox tests for pecan to gate against WSME, Ceilometer, and Ironic. https://review.openstack.org/54333 | 00:56 |
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| sdague | I don't really know why, I think it's a timestamp race, so I put in a debug patch, so when it fails some time in dec again, maybe we can figure it out | 01:12 |
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| sdague | clarkb: I've been starting to think about jobs that would actually test the d-g setup scenario correctly, but specifying ZUUL_REFS ourselves for know whacky scenarios in openstack | 01:22 |
| sdague | it would be a series of devstack jobs. Something that would make a good beer conversation. | 01:23 |
| clarkb | manipulating what it tries to test to get coverage? | 01:24 |
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| sdague | yeh | 01:30 |
| sdague | basically some completely contrived scenarios on branches and zuul refs to make sure it's setting up the right thing | 01:30 |
| sdague | also, I wonder if we could make a test job that actually blows away all of the script, and tries it again | 01:30 |
| sdague | so we could actually test the whole thing | 01:31 |
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| sdague | the recheck completed - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54638/ | 01:32 |
| sdague | I was also explaining to a college friend my ideas about logstash (he's a bioinformatics post doc) | 01:33 |
| sdague | and he said "oh, you should read the following bayesian analysis book, as it should give you the framework to do it" | 01:34 |
| lifeless | sdague: whats the book | 01:34 |
| lifeless | > | 01:34 |
| sdague | and like an idiot I only just realized that is basically what I wanted to do | 01:34 |
| sdague | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158488388X/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=02XGTA5W07PG4YX2F9YZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1630083502&pf_rd_i=507846 | 01:34 |
| sdague | that being bayesian analysis on the logs | 01:35 |
| lifeless | oh wow, 60 bucks for kindle edition | 01:35 |
| sdague | yeh, it's a text book | 01:35 |
| sdague | but he liked it | 01:35 |
| lifeless | I wonder if kahn has similar material yet | 01:35 |
| * lifeless grabs a sample. | 01:36 | |
| sdague | maybe | 01:36 |
| sdague | he also recommended just reading the section of the R manual on bayesian stuff, he said that would probably be pretty useful | 01:36 |
| sdague | anyway, time to get some sleep tonight | 01:36 |
| lifeless | night | 01:38 |
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| dims | fungi, no key-signing party? we could pick a time for people to show up somewhere specific? | 02:25 |
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| fungi | dims: i'd love to do something official, but it's a lot of planning and prep to do it at the volume of attendance i'm anticipating at a summit. i definitely want to arrange a (maybe member company sponsored) after hours key signing shindig at the j summit though, and we've got plenty of time to hash out how that should go down | 03:04 |
| fungi | this go round, i'm hoping to at least pester my fellow release cycle management and infrastructure cores to sign each others keys next week | 03:06 |
| fungi | because that's where we can start to benefit most from it | 03:06 |
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| lifeless | fungi: don't do it after hours | 03:18 |
| lifeless | fungi: its a core important thing for the community | 03:18 |
| lifeless | fungi: get a timeslot from thierry for it during the design summit | 03:18 |
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| fungi | lifeless: that would be my preference too, but i'm worried about having a big enough space (the design summit rooms are usually smallish) | 03:20 |
| fungi | though maybe we could co-opt a dining area or something | 03:21 |
| clarkb | perhaps a dining hall post/pre lunch | 03:21 |
| lifeless | fungi: the thing about organising it officially... | 03:22 |
| lifeless | fungi: is that we can organise it officially. | 03:22 |
| lifeless | fungi: a pub etc would be way worse | 03:22 |
| lifeless | clarkb: ++ | 03:22 |
| fungi | too true | 03:27 |
| clarkb | gah someone changed the list-id for openstack-dev and derped my filters :) | 03:29 |
| fungi | oh? | 03:29 |
| clarkb | yeah extra content was added: \(not for usage questions\) <- I should wildcard that stuff out | 03:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Add all the TripleO projects. https://review.openstack.org/54649 | 04:57 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Ignore editor backup files. https://review.openstack.org/54650 | 04:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Be explicit to vim that bin/reviewday is python. https://review.openstack.org/54664 | 04:58 |
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| lifeless | jog0: see https://review.openstack.org/54664 for an example of a modeline that your 'configure it locally' argument doesn't help with *at all* | 04:59 |
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| mordred | lifeless: 54664 is a bug. bin/reviewday should not exist | 06:34 |
| mordred | the fact that you have to trick vim is a key indication of that | 06:34 |
| mordred | srrsly, I think the reason I agree with jog0 on modelines is that python has a VERY prescriptive coding style, unlike other looser languages like C++ or Java | 06:37 |
| mordred | where the modeline can help to convey local culture | 06:37 |
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| mordred | our modelines do not describe things different from vim's defaults | 06:37 |
| mordred | so they are superfluous | 06:38 |
| mordred | and we should not have bin/* scripts, because we they should be console_scripts | 06:38 |
| mordred | also - beer - but also, I just had to help sandy with lawyer math | 06:39 |
| mordred | if anyone wants the fun: | 06:39 |
| mordred | https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1&thid=1420d0f7126c481c&mt=application/msword&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D41bd9e999e%26view%3Datt%26th%3D1420d0f7126c481c%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dsafe%26realattid%3Df_hnfkpvcp0%26zw&sig=AHIEtbStx5fxvcEdGrZ97cF15ztM0EkNdQ | 06:39 |
| mordred | there's the problem | 06:39 |
| mordred | and here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/40/410.15 | 06:39 |
| mordred | are the limits | 06:39 |
| lifeless | mordred: well, mmm, still disagree- te use of pep8 is a local choice. it's not like go where there is Just One style | 06:42 |
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| mordred | lifeless: I grok that - BUT - it is what the editors default to too | 06:49 |
| mordred | divergence from pep8 for pytohn is more of an old-school "I'm a special pony" choice these days | 06:49 |
| mordred | and if you are a person who is running around saying things like "screw you, I'm configuring vim to use tabs!!!" then you are already too smart | 06:50 |
| mordred | so, what the modeline does is configure vim - but it's configuring it to the things that are already vim's defaults | 06:50 |
| mordred | it's like saying "yup. those things you were already going to do unless overridden. do those. oh - and if you overrode them? use your local settings, because they take precendence anyway" | 06:51 |
| lifeless | mordred: I have no idea what vim's defaults are :) | 06:53 |
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| mordred | lifeless: ok - I stand corrected. vim's defaults are not correct. neither does the modeline do the right thing | 06:56 |
| mordred | lifeless: to test this, I removed the modeline, as well as my local .vimrc and .vim stuff | 06:56 |
| mordred | lifeless: and vim did ENTIRELY the wrong thing with the tab key - which is basically what the modeline theoretically fixes | 06:56 |
| lifeless | yes | 06:58 |
| mordred | lifeless: so my original thoughts were false in their assumptions of the facts | 06:58 |
| lifeless | yes | 06:58 |
| mordred | lifeless: but I still think that we should remove the modelines- just now because they are not actually doing what we think they are | 06:59 |
| mordred | and I cannot construct one that does that is of a reasonable length | 06:59 |
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| lifeless | mordred: remember you can abbreviate things | 06:59 |
| mordred | and I cannot construct one that does at all | 07:00 |
| lifeless | I believe vim by default doesn't honour modelines which is one of jog0's pointer | 07:01 |
| lifeless | points | 07:02 |
| lifeless | so you may need a minimal .vimrc that enables modelines | 07:03 |
| mordred | ah. that may explain why .vimrc-less things don't work for me :) | 07:04 |
| mordred | k. srrsly. sleep now | 07:05 |
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| lifeless | night | 07:05 |
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| lifeless | set modelines=25 or some such | 07:06 |
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| ttx | fungi: we can transform one of the "breaks" in our schedule into a break/keysigning that would happen in the dev lounge | 08:20 |
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| ttx | The Thursday/Friday 10:30 breaks are the longest (30min, no late plenary before) | 08:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: test: support voluptuous 7.0+ https://review.openstack.org/54696 | 09:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix Martyn Taylor's gerrit username. https://review.openstack.org/54700 | 10:35 |
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| sdague | clarkb: when you wake - http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJyZXEtMGRjOGIzMzEtNzE2Yy00MDA1LTk3OTMtMzNmZTYyMGMzODQyIiwiZmllbGRzIjpbXSwib2Zmc2V0IjowLCJ0aW1lZnJhbWUiOiIzNjAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJzdGFtcCI6MTM4MzIxNzU0ODY0NX0= | 11:07 |
| sdague | it looks like timestamp isn't updating the time completely (we're loosing microseconds) | 11:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Tagging of TripleO jobs should be tripleo-ptl https://review.openstack.org/54712 | 11:23 |
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| ArxCruz | all: I'm trying to install devstack in my machine, and I'm getting this error: ERROR: HTTPConnectionPool(host='192.168.1.30', port=8774): Read timed out. (read timeout=600.0) | 12:47 |
| ArxCruz | does anyone knows ? | 12:48 |
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| aspiers | looks like stackalytics broke | 12:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix Martyn Taylor's gerrit username. https://review.openstack.org/54700 | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewday: Add all the TripleO projects. https://review.openstack.org/54649 | 13:18 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewday: Ignore editor backup files. https://review.openstack.org/54650 | 13:18 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewday: Be explicit to vim that bin/reviewday is python. https://review.openstack.org/54664 | 13:18 |
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| fungi | ttx: that's not a half bad idea. would have to be fairly disorganized but i can put a followup e-mail to the list saying that i will be in the dev lounge on thursday from 10:30-11:00am hk local time on thursday if anyone wants to bring their id and validate/swap info info. any idea whether we'll have access to a printer? if so i'll also offer to print up a name/keyid/fingerprint/uids sheet of anybody | 13:31 |
| fungi | who signs an off-list reply to me by noon on wednesday or something | 13:31 |
| ttx | fungi: I suspect we'll be able to print something, yes | 13:32 |
| fungi | okay, i'll call it "best effort" there | 13:32 |
| ttx | fungi: fwiw I switched "Break" for "Break / Keysigning" in the schedule with minimal info | 13:32 |
| ttx | if you cant to craete a wiki page, i can add a link | 13:32 |
| ttx | s/cant/can | 13:33 |
| ttx | err | 13:33 |
| ttx | if you want to create a wiki page, i can add a link | 13:33 |
| ttx | that's what I mean | 13:33 |
| fungi | you mean a page specific to that timeslot, or just something like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenPGP_Web_of_Trust#Key_Signing_Process | 13:34 |
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| ttx | I was thinking specific to the timeslot, like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Keysigning | 13:35 |
| ttx | where people could lean about process | 13:35 |
| ttx | but I'm fine doing it informally | 13:35 |
| ttx | hanging out in the room at the same moment with ID is the trickiest part | 13:36 |
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| fungi | sure. i can whip up a timeslot-specific page in a few minutes with a table where people who plan to show up can fill in their info, then i'll add any direct replies i get from people who don't feel like editing the wiki and see about printing out a stack of copies wednesday afternoon | 13:38 |
| kiall | Humm .. Really confused over why Gerrit/Zuul/Jenkins refuses to run the gate + merge of this change! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54722/ | 13:38 |
| fungi | kiall: it depends on https://review.openstack.org/54541 | 13:39 |
| ttx | fungi: ok, hit me up with link when you have it | 13:39 |
| kiall | fungi: LOL. My bad. | 13:39 |
| kiall | One of those days I guess! Sorry .. And Thanks :) | 13:40 |
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| sdague | fungi: any chance I can get you to look at this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54638/ | 13:45 |
| sdague | it's hopefully the last piece to have caught the novaclient failure | 13:45 |
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| * Steap would need a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53306/ , which seems OK :) | 13:53 | |
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| fungi | sdague: in setup_workspace() i'm still a little unclear on why we have $base_branch outside the loop and $BRANCH inside the loop with (what seem to me to be) the same values. am i missing a statement somewhere in that loop which is reassigning the value of $BRANCH? | 13:53 |
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| sdague | fungi: yep, let me grab the line | 13:58 |
| sdague | L124 in that patch (right above the changes) | 13:58 |
| sdague | base_branch="stable/grizzly" | 13:59 |
| sdague | we loop through all the projects | 13:59 |
| sdague | we hit python-cinderclient, and find that it doesn't have a stable/grizzly branch | 13:59 |
| sdague | because it's a client | 13:59 |
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| sdague | so we set it to "master" | 13:59 |
| sdague | because clients should always be on master | 13:59 |
| sdague | otherwise the clients on stable/grizzly will fail the if on L130 | 14:00 |
| sdague | and get just master | 14:01 |
| sdague | not master + ZUUL_REF | 14:01 |
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| fungi | oh, right, l125 we set BRAMCH=master | 14:02 |
| * fungi must be going blind | 14:02 | |
| sdague | no worries | 14:02 |
| sdague | it's taken me days to understand this script | 14:03 |
| fungi | i'm around to approve a revert if it goes really, really sideways | 14:03 |
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| sdague | cool | 14:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server https://review.openstack.org/53644 | 14:09 |
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| ArxCruz | fungi: quick question, Is there a way to disable a service in devstack-tempest run when the job is installing devstack to test? | 14:38 |
| ArxCruz | for example, In power, I need to disable rabbit and enable qpid to have devstack installed successfully | 14:38 |
| ArxCruz | is there a way to pass that to the job ? | 14:39 |
| fungi | ArxCruz: i think you can pass your own list of services to start in an override envvar to devstack-gate-wrap.sh | 14:39 |
| fungi | i believe we have at least one job which does that... maybe the requirements integration one | 14:39 |
| ArxCruz | fungi: I will check, thanks | 14:40 |
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| fungi | ttx: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenPGP_Web_of_Trust/Icehouse_Summit | 15:04 |
| fungi | lifeless: zigo_: dims: ^ | 15:04 |
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| fungi | (i know you three expressed some interest) | 15:04 |
| fungi | i'll send a follow-up to the -dev ml mentioning it too | 15:04 |
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| zigo_ | fungi: Super cool! | 15:05 |
| zigo_ | fungi: Though please make sure that everyone checks for its own fingerprint on the final printed paper. | 15:06 |
| fungi | zigo_: yes, i plan to do that first thing when people get there | 15:06 |
| zigo_ | (since anyone can edit the wiki and "fix" a fingerprint) | 15:06 |
| * fungi nods | 15:06 | |
| fungi | i will also pay at least some attention to the wiki edit history to hopefully spot any obvious tampering | 15:07 |
| ttx | fungi: linked | 15:08 |
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| fungi | ttx: thanks@ | 15:09 |
| fungi | s/@/!/ | 15:09 |
| zigo_ | fungi: I'm not used to this wiki, can you fix the crap I've done? :) | 15:10 |
| zigo_ | fungi: How to specify "end of table raw" ? | 15:10 |
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| fungi | sure | 15:10 |
| zigo_ | Thanks! | 15:11 |
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| fungi | zigo_: how's that... better? | 15:12 |
| zigo_ | Perfect! :) | 15:12 |
| fungi | the |- line is a row separator, basically | 15:13 |
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| fungi | mw syntax is a little funny... i had to look it up (as opposed to moin, which i have tattooed onto the back of my brains) | 15:13 |
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| zigo_ | Well, arguably, no wiki has a good syntax: it's always DIFFERENT (from what you're used to...) | 15:14 |
| zigo_ | :) | 15:14 |
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| fungi | rganted | 15:15 |
| fungi | er, granted | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | if I am following ci.openstack.org/sysadmin.html#making-a-change-in-puppet the instructions seem to assume I am already running puppet. What puppet does it expect me to be running? | 15:15 |
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| rpodolyaka | fungi: hey! | 15:18 |
| fungi | anteaya: good point. the article could probably stand to mention installing the latest puppet 2.x version and how to locally apply a puppet manifest | 15:18 |
| fungi | rpodolyaka: hi! | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Johannes Erdfelt proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow displayName to be set via display-name attribute https://review.openstack.org/54759 | 15:19 |
| rpodolyaka | fungi: could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54712/ ? it must be the last problem with TripleO releases configuration, we missed it yesterday :( | 15:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Johannes Erdfelt proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow displayName to be set via display-name attribute https://review.openstack.org/54759 | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | okay, I can offer a patch to that effect but I will need help to get the info correct | 15:20 |
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| dims | fungi, done! | 15:20 |
| anteaya | fungi what repo is that article in? | 15:22 |
| fungi | anteaya: however, we should be careful not to turn it into a general puppet tutorial. there are plenty of those on the internet already, and we reinvent more than enough wheels here | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Tagging of TripleO jobs should be tripleo-ptl https://review.openstack.org/54712 | 15:22 |
| rpodolyaka | fungi: thanks a lot! | 15:23 |
| fungi | anteaya: openstack-infra/config in the doc/source dir | 15:23 |
| fungi | rpodolyaka: you're welcome | 15:23 |
| * rpodolyaka returns to ;releasing of all projects'... | 15:23 | |
| fungi | run free, little projects... run free! | 15:23 |
| fungi | the internet is your playground now | 15:24 |
| rpodolyaka | :) | 15:24 |
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| rpodolyaka | btw. for PyPi uploads to work I need: 1) name in setup.cfg == name of PyPi entry; 2) PyPi entry has a maintainer named 'openstackci' right? | 15:27 |
| dims | fungi, https://twitter.com/dims/status/395934556257144833 | 15:28 |
| fungi | dims: thanks! now i really should hurry up and send that e-mail to the -dev ml | 15:30 |
| fungi | ;) | 15:30 |
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| dims | fungi, :) let's see how many people we can round up | 15:30 |
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| fungi | sure. though in a half hour it will be fairly tight time-wise | 15:32 |
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| fungi | so we'll need to make sure we have our act together | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | fungi minimum puppet to test a puppet module for config, master or client or both? I would prefer to just use one server. | 15:34 |
| fungi | you don't need a puppet master and you don't need to have the agent daemon running. you can just use the puppet utility on the machine you're testing | 15:36 |
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| fungi | anteaya: something like https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/README.rst#n159 | 15:38 |
| anteaya | the puppet utilit - what do I have to install on my test vm to use the puppet utility? The puppet client? | 15:39 |
| fungi | anteaya: you can use the install_puppet.sh script like in that example | 15:39 |
| anteaya | oh | 15:39 |
| * anteaya looks | 15:39 | |
| fungi | replace the module path with wherever install_modules.sh ends up dumping them if it's not in /root | 15:40 |
| anteaya | k | 15:40 |
| fungi | and you can override that class with whatever is appropriate for what you're testing | 15:41 |
| fungi | or set up your local site manifest with something which can figure it out from the hostname | 15:41 |
| anteaya | I'll try | 15:43 |
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| sdague | fungi: any idea why this failed the merge after it passed the tests? | 15:58 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54601/ | 15:58 |
| sdague | I thought we did merge check first | 15:58 |
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| fungi | sdague: we did for a little while, but with the nearest-non-failing algorithm addition we went back to letting it ride in case a change ahead conflicting with it failed to merge | 16:00 |
| sdague | ok | 16:00 |
| fungi | since the new algorithm keeps those from gumming up the works with extra gate resets | 16:00 |
| sdague | yeh, it just means that on reset heavy days, even once you clear the gate, you're done | 16:01 |
| fungi | true | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | QianLin proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Add explaination on how to use floating-ip https://review.openstack.org/54331 | 16:01 |
| sdague | well, I guess the real answer is to get neutron to stop breaking the gate | 16:01 |
| fungi | i think the answer to that is we should find ways to have fewer heavy reset days ;) | 16:02 |
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| clarkb | morning | 16:43 |
| anteaya | morning clarkb | 16:44 |
| clarkb | sdague: re timestamps in kibana. If you expand the events the actual timestamp is correct. Kibana2 itself doesn't render them properly. kibana3 does | 16:44 |
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| anteaya | clarkb I got this error last time I tried to run install_modules.sh: http://paste.openstack.org/show/50311/ I can.t remember what I did last time to get past this? Do you? | 16:48 |
| clarkb | anteaya: yes, delete /etc/puppet/modules/concat and rerun the script | 16:48 |
| clarkb | I have a couple changes proposed that will fix that but getting them in will require some babysitting which I haven't had time for | 16:49 |
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| anteaya | okay thanks | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Leon proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add designate dns client (python-designateclient) to requirements https://review.openstack.org/54419 | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Ensure clients get tested correctly in upgrades https://review.openstack.org/54638 | 16:53 |
| fungi | sdague: ^ | 16:54 |
| fungi | now we wait for the screaming to begin ;) | 16:54 |
| anteaya | clarkb no error this time | 16:55 |
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| clarkb | fungi: it is halloween :) | 16:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Sync designate project gerrit ACLs https://review.openstack.org/54775 | 16:58 |
| kiall | Heya - Could I convince a Gerrit admin to create a stable/havana branch in the designate project, based off 5b280913c1efdbedc72b7fd9f9e6ed85b14f3fd3 | 16:58 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I think it is purely a namespace problem, which is unfortunate but it makes the work around simple | 16:58 |
| clarkb | kiall: what if we update 54775 to allow you to do it | 16:59 |
| kiall | clarkb: we could, I'd need to add the createReference permissions if I'm not mistaken? | 17:00 |
| kiall | ^ review was more about syncing up with the other newer projects to allow reviews / merges on stable/* once created :) | 17:00 |
| clarkb | kiall: 'create' on refs/stable/* is what you need | 17:00 |
| clarkb | kiall: or a second change | 17:00 |
| clarkb | I would just prefer that we make it more self service :) | 17:01 |
| kiall | clarkb: as would I :) | 17:01 |
| kiall | I'll drop a second review in now | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Fedora support to prepare_devstack.sh https://review.openstack.org/54776 | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update devstack-cache.py to install RPMs. https://review.openstack.org/54777 | 17:01 |
| clarkb | cool | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Fedora 19 to the nodepool (devstack-f19-check) https://review.openstack.org/54778 | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-fedora job. https://review.openstack.org/54779 | 17:01 |
| rpodolyaka | guys, do you know what can cause this? "python-tuskarclient-pypi-upload: LOST" https://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/python-tuskarclient-tarball/1/ | 17:02 |
| clarkb | rpodolyaka: typically it means the job isn't in jenkins for some reason | 17:02 |
| rpodolyaka | pypi entry has maintainer/owner 'openstackci' | 17:02 |
| rpodolyaka | hmm | 17:02 |
| clarkb | rpodolyaka: can you link the the change that has that? | 17:02 |
| clarkb | oh nevermind this is a tag | 17:03 |
| rpodolyaka | yeah | 17:03 |
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| clarkb | https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/python-tuskarclient-pypi-upload/ the job is there | 17:04 |
| ttx | wow, getting hundreds of bounces from rackspace.com on my lastest post to -announce. | 17:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Allow designate-milestone to create branches matching stable/* https://review.openstack.org/54781 | 17:04 |
| kiall | clarkb: ^ | 17:04 |
| ttx | 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) [Default] '[Errno 60] Operation timed out' | 17:04 |
| kiall | look right? | 17:04 |
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| clarkb | kiall: looking | 17:04 |
| kiall | I'm used to using the GUI for gerrit ACLs ;) | 17:05 |
| clarkb | kiall: yeah that looks right | 17:05 |
| ttx | hmmactually that was joshua's "Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem" triggering all those fatal bounces | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-fedora job. https://review.openstack.org/54779 | 17:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Fedora 19 to the nodepool (devstack-f19-check) https://review.openstack.org/54778 | 17:06 |
| kiall | clarkb: thanks | 17:06 |
| fungi | heh, i haven't looked but i bet he had a date header way in the past | 17:06 |
| fungi | probably from a reboot | 17:06 |
| clarkb | rpodolyaka: so the job didn't run, so zuul saying LOST is probably accurate | 17:07 |
| kiall | "[Errno 60] Operation timed out" suggets a network timeout to me.. | 17:07 |
| * ttx looks | 17:07 | |
| clarkb | rpodolyaka: still not sure why that happened though | 17:07 |
| kiall | and has been timing out for long enough for the message to expire.. | 17:07 |
| ttx | Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:30:48 +0000 | 17:07 |
| rpodolyaka | clarkb: ok, thanks | 17:07 |
| ttx | Received: from lists.openstack.org ([50.56.173.222]) Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:31:22 +0000 | 17:08 |
| ttx | original mail sounds legit | 17:08 |
| ttx | sandywalsh_: ^that resulted in your opensatck-dev subscription being disabled fwiw | 17:09 |
| rpodolyaka | btw, how long does it take to propagate merged changes to gerrit ACLs? or they should be applied immediately? | 17:10 |
| clarkb | rpodolyaka: fungi: 2013-10-31 16:47:37,333 ERROR zuul.Gearman: Job <gear.Job 0x15a3e90 handle: None name: build:python-tuskarclient-pypi-upload unique: 35b83e13cc1847b59f20c914676ac72c> is not registered with Gearman | 17:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Add the rest of the client projects. https://review.openstack.org/54783 | 17:10 |
| clarkb | that gives us a place to start | 17:10 |
| clarkb | rpodolyaka: 15-25 minutes | 17:10 |
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| rpodolyaka | clarkb: thanks! | 17:10 |
| rpodolyaka | so you have seen this one before ? :) | 17:11 |
| ttx | from mx3.dfw1.rackspace.com, Date: 31 Oct 2013 11:41:00 -0500, 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) [Default] '[Errno 60] Operation = timed out' | 17:11 |
| clarkb | rpodolyaka: I haven't seen it before, but now we know why it didn't work | 17:11 |
| ttx | it's like *@rackspace.com will have their subscription disabled over this | 17:12 |
| clarkb | for some reason the job wasn't registered with gearman | 17:12 |
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| rpodolyaka | clarkb: aha. but what all one have to do to get a pypi job is to include pypi-jobs in projects.yaml, right? | 17:13 |
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| clarkb | in theory | 17:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Add a neutron isolated job for tempest" https://review.openstack.org/54785 | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | sdague: ^^^ | 17:15 |
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| clarkb | rpodolyaka: fungi: I have confirmed that gearman status doesn't show the job, looking at logs on the jenkins server now | 17:16 |
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| zaro | clarkb: hey, how do i push a new branch to publication project? | 17:18 |
| clarkb | zaro: you can't, you need someone with core powers to do it, just let us know what you want to call it and what the starting sha1 should be | 17:19 |
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| clarkb | zaro: also any idea why jobs would be in jenkins but not registered with gerrit? | 17:19 |
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| zaro | clarkb: that sounds like a zuul question. not sure where the extra jobs are coming from. | 17:20 |
| zaro | clarkb: what are those extra jobs? | 17:20 |
| clarkb | zaro: they aren't extra jobs | 17:21 |
| clarkb | the jobs should be in both, but are not in gearman | 17:21 |
| clarkb | zaro: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/python-tuskarclient-pypi-upload/ that job specifically | 17:21 |
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| zaro | clarkb: are you saying that there was a gerrit event for this project, but this job didn't run? | 17:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewday: Add the rest of the client projects. https://review.openstack.org/54783 | 17:24 |
| sandywalsh_ | ttx, sorry, what was the cause? | 17:24 |
| clarkb | zaro: correct and the job didn't run because the job is not registered in gearman | 17:24 |
| zaro | clarkb: so did you telnet into gearman server to check all of the registered functions? | 17:25 |
| zaro | clarkb: maybe check that there is a label for this project that corresponds to a slave? | 17:27 |
| kiall | BTW - Is there anyone else with +2 on openstack/config about besides clark? Would love to get 54775 and 54781 merged before I head home this evening! Apologies for the nag ;) | 17:27 |
| clarkb | zaro: yes, the function is not there | 17:27 |
| clarkb | zaro: I will check that | 17:27 |
| clarkb | kiall: fungi | 17:28 |
| zaro | clarkb: ohh i see it's just set to pypi. | 17:28 |
| fungi | kiall: yeah, i'll have a look | 17:28 |
| kiall | fungi: cool, thanks :) | 17:28 |
| clarkb | zaro: yeah, and pypi.slave.o.o has that label | 17:28 |
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| zaro | clarkb: pypi seems to be online so registration should exist. | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Leon proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add designate dns client (python-designateclient) to requirements https://review.openstack.org/54419 | 17:29 |
| clarkb | zaro: right it should exist :) | 17:29 |
| fungi | sandywalsh_: looks like there was a message from the ml which hung between a couple of mtas inside rackspace and then got bounced back to the listserv the next day | 17:29 |
| fungi | probably for all recipients at your domain, which is likely a lot of subscribers | 17:30 |
| sandywalsh_ | fungi, ah, that doesn't surprise me in the least :) ... thanks for the heads up. I was very surprised to get dropped from all the lists. | 17:30 |
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| zaro | clarkb: i don't know. is it possible to take pypi.slave.o.o offline then online to see if it registers? | 17:30 |
| zaro | clarkb: can you check to see if that project is enabled? | 17:31 |
| fungi | sandywalsh_: yeah, mailman is pretty aggressive about disabling subscriptions for addresses which bounce more than once in a row on the same message | 17:31 |
| * anteaya offers sandywalsh_ a mint | 17:32 | |
| sandywalsh_ | haha | 17:32 |
| zaro | clarkb: ohh i see that project is disabled so that unregists the function. | 17:32 |
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| zaro | s/unregists/unregisters | 17:33 |
| ttx | sandywalsh_: email bounced on rackspace server | 17:33 |
| ttx | see errors I pasted | 17:33 |
| zaro | clarkb: if you enable that project, the function for it should get registered with gearman server. | 17:34 |
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| mordred | morning all | 17:37 |
| zaro | clarkb: i'm not sure i understand how we are supposed to submit our slides to publication project. iirc the instructions says you should create a branch for your slides. is this right? | 17:37 |
| fungi | zaro: we just need to pick a common commit in your history for you to base/rebase on | 17:37 |
| fungi | zaro: whatever commit you branched from locall | 17:38 |
| fungi | y | 17:38 |
| fungi | or the commit you started from | 17:38 |
| zaro | fungi: does that still mean that i push my local branch to the repo? | 17:38 |
| anteaya | morning mordred | 17:38 |
| zaro | fungi: or am i modifying overview or master branch? | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make requirements jobs voting for savanna repos https://review.openstack.org/54788 | 17:39 |
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| fungi | zaro: there is a readme in the master branch which has a suggested workflow... http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/publications/tree/README.rst | 17:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Communicate to user when we skip a requirement https://review.openstack.org/54628 | 17:40 |
| fungi | yeah, not covering your question though | 17:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Base python 2.7 skip list on parsed names https://review.openstack.org/54152 | 17:40 |
| fungi | zaro: phrased differently, what did you start from? | 17:41 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hi folks, I'm looking now on the better way to add test job for savanna gating experiments | 17:41 |
| clarkb | zaro: the project is dsiabled? /me looks | 17:41 |
| fungi | zaro: like, if you copied a particular initial state, where did you get it/what was it? | 17:41 |
| zaro | fungi: i branched locally from overview a few weeks ago. | 17:41 |
| clarkb | zaro: it doesn't look disabled to me | 17:41 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm thinking now about creating a job that will exec slave script with the rest code to be able to change it w/o changing jobs | 17:41 |
| reed | mordred, why is your email client breaking the thread? :( | 17:42 |
| mordred | reed: phone | 17:42 |
| mordred | reed: I was replying on my phone | 17:42 |
| sandywalsh_ | ttx, thanks ... things have been a bit wonky with the email there recently | 17:42 |
| fungi | zaro: oh, right, the readme i was thinking of is in the template branch... http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/publications/tree/README.rst?h=template | 17:42 |
| clarkb | zaro: can you point out where you are seeing that? or did someone enalbe it? | 17:42 |
| mordred | reed: sorry | 17:42 |
| pabelanger | Morning! | 17:42 |
| reed | geez, which email client? (just so I know) | 17:42 |
| zaro | clarkb: this one ? https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/All/job/python-tuskarclient-pypi-upload/ | 17:42 |
| pabelanger | Have we stopped updating https://pypi.python.org/pypi/horizon with horizon releases? | 17:42 |
| fungi | zaro: but anyway, knowing the commit in your commit history which you started from on the overview branch then, would be enough. we can create the new branch starting from there | 17:42 |
| pabelanger | it seems 2012.2 is the latest | 17:43 |
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| zaro | fungi: /me checks | 17:44 |
| clarkb | zaro: ya that one | 17:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Use pypi-mirror instead of jeepyb https://review.openstack.org/54791 | 17:45 |
| clarkb | zaro: I have a "Disable project" button implying it is currently enabled | 17:45 |
| clarkb | I can try disabling and enabling it | 17:45 |
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| zaro | clarkb: ohh right, i mistakenly thought that grey balls mean disabled. i don't have access to the enable/disable button. maybe try disable then enable to see if you get it to register? | 17:46 |
| anteaya | pabelanger morning and I don't know perhaps -horizon may | 17:47 |
| clarkb | zaro: I will try that | 17:47 |
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| zaro | clarkb: if that doesn't work then i would try disabling/re-enabling pypi.slave.o.o to update registration. | 17:48 |
| clarkb | zaro: I did that, looking to see if it registered now | 17:48 |
| zaro | fungi: i branched from 2b84bf5c42e6488d1bf170c5f984c400a0f40ce3 (in overview) | 17:49 |
| fungi | zaro: and what did you want the new branch called? | 17:49 |
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| zaro | fungi: '2013-jenkins-conference-palo-alto' | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | clarkb, mordred, fungi: can you push this through to unblock the tempest gate: https://review.openstack.org/54785 | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | I'm at >=7 reverifies since this morning | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | I lost count | 17:50 |
| clarkb | zaro: it is registered now | 17:50 |
| zaro | clarkb: which one fixed it> | 17:50 |
| zaro | ? | 17:51 |
| clarkb | zaro: at some point we should swing around and figure out why that happened | 17:51 |
| clarkb | zaro: I disabled then enabled it | 17:51 |
| clarkb | rpodolyaka: I will manually trigger your job now | 17:51 |
| zaro | clarkb: which one? project or slave? | 17:51 |
| fungi | zaro: that sounds more like the tag name pattern we've settled on. what's the title or topic of the presentation you gave there? | 17:51 |
| clarkb | zaro: project | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Remove pip as an argument from mkvenv https://review.openstack.org/54792 | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Add wheel mirror structure awareness https://review.openstack.org/54793 | 17:52 |
| sdague | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54448/ - sweet | 17:52 |
| sdague | we got the -1 that was expected there finally | 17:52 |
| kiall | Speaking of manually triggering jobs, can someone click rebuild on https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/designate-pypi-upload/1, I've given Jenkins owner on the pypi package since that build :( | 17:52 |
| zaro | clarkb: yes, definately need to debug. but good sign if it only required reset of project to fix. or at least better than having to reset the slave. | 17:52 |
| mordred | mtreinish: I'm fine with it - sdague clarkb ? | 17:53 |
| zaro | fungi: the topic was talk on gearman-plugin | 17:53 |
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| zaro | fungi: actually, it's 'multi-master with gearman-plugin' | 17:54 |
| sdague | mordred: I'm good with it | 17:54 |
| fungi | zaro: okay, great. created a branch called gearman-plugin (just needs to be short and unique enough really). make sure to add a commit which updates the default branch to that in .gitreview | 17:55 |
| zaro | fungi: thx much. | 17:55 |
| fungi | mtreinish: so does this mean we're abandoning the tenant isolation testing for neutron in tempest for the near future? | 17:55 |
| sdague | fungi: so that test doen't even actually test tenant isolation yet | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | fungi: no, it's critical that neutron gets it working asap, and it's still on neutron so they'll be blocked by the races killing the run | 17:57 |
| sdague | because if you turn it on neutron fails 95% of the time | 17:57 |
| clarkb | rpodolyaka: manual triggered job pushed your release | 17:57 |
| clarkb | kiall: looking | 17:57 |
| fungi | oh, well nothing of value was lost then ;) | 17:57 |
| sdague | so this is just the fact that neutron is failing 60% of the time on pg | 17:57 |
| mtreinish | sdague: yeah it does, the neutron api tests just don't have tenant isolation | 17:57 |
| sdague | oh, ok | 17:57 |
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| sdague | so it's a partial loss, but right now it's blocking too much of tempest | 17:57 |
| kiall | thanks clarkb | 17:57 |
| mtreinish | everything that is isolated in a normal run is still isolated for those neutron-isolated jobs | 17:57 |
| mtreinish | it's just when I tried to turn it on for the neutron api tests things fell apart even worse | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish horizon to pypi https://review.openstack.org/54795 | 17:58 |
| pabelanger | anteaya, okay, looks like an oversight, patch uploaded | 17:58 |
| pabelanger | will see if clarkb or fungi can manually publish the latest release next | 17:59 |
| clarkb | kiall: done, please check | 17:59 |
| kiall | clarkb: spot on, thanks | 17:59 |
| clarkb | np | 17:59 |
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| kiall | 2 more things left then! .. creating the stable branch and updating the setup.cfg / .gitreview for em .. So close ;) | 18:00 |
| clarkb | sdague: success! | 18:00 |
| fungi | pabelanger: i believe we don't publish server projects to pypi and should either start doing that or delete them all at some point | 18:01 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: I am reviewing that change now | 18:01 |
| fungi | pabelanger: right now we publish tarballs of server projects to launchpad, officially | 18:01 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: ok thanks | 18:02 |
| clarkb | fungi: pabelanger: correct, I forget why though. However kiall is free to publish designate to pypi as he likes :) | 18:02 |
| kiall | I actually thought all the projects published there, hence why I fixed it when I saw the job failed ;) | 18:02 |
| fungi | mainly just explaining why the horizon release on pypi is old, old, old | 18:02 |
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| clarkb | kiall: oh | 18:03 |
| pabelanger | fungi, clarkb interesting. I'm looking to build an app on top of horizon, and figure pypi would be the place to get it | 18:03 |
| fungi | since pabelanger asked earlier | 18:03 |
| fungi | wasn't talking about designate | 18:03 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: fungi: that said, the bits of horizon that are dashboardy should probably be split into an indepdent lib that lives on pypi | 18:03 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya | 18:03 |
| clarkb | ther eis a summit session to talk about that | 18:03 |
| kiall | horizon is probably a .. mix.. of server and client.. in that horzon is a library, while openstack_dashboard makes use of the library | 18:03 |
| clarkb | kiall: right | 18:03 |
| clarkb | but they are conglomerated together currently and need to be separated | 18:04 |
| clarkb | should be an interesting session | 18:04 |
| pabelanger | clarkb, Ya, I seen that talk for the summit. | 18:04 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb, fungi: can you hit +A pretty please? (you both hit +2 at the same time) | 18:05 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: will do | 18:05 |
| clarkb | done | 18:05 |
| mtreinish | thanks | 18:05 |
| pabelanger | clarkb, fungi: so what do you propose for the moment? Remove horizon from pypi or manually update to the latest release? | 18:06 |
| pabelanger | I can update my requirements.txt to point to git or the tarball for now | 18:06 |
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| * mordred wants us to start publishing the 'server' projects to pypi | 18:07 | |
| mordred | because, well, people want to do things with them | 18:07 |
| sdague | btw, I expect this to be a spirited conversation around Neutron QA - http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/event/c2d83f91bd5fdc3dafac52b5781be443 I would appreciate people coming and joining for it | 18:07 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: I think using git/tarball for now would be good then we can hopefully have a solid plan come out of the summit session | 18:07 |
| clarkb | sdague: I have starred it | 18:07 |
| clarkb | and only have one conflict at that time :) | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Add a neutron isolated job for tempest" https://review.openstack.org/54785 | 18:08 |
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| mordred | sdague: it is starred on my schedule too | 18:12 |
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| sdague | mordred: awesome | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | DennyZhang proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: add introduction for README.rst https://review.openstack.org/54796 | 18:14 |
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| mordred | lifeless, clarkb: the above /recent changes to pbr are an attempt to split the wheel change into more consuable bites | 18:15 |
| lifeless | mordred: thank you | 18:15 |
| clarkb | I think I have decided that everyone should go on vacation when jeblair is on vacation | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 18:16 |
| clarkb | that way I wouldn't feel so bad about my review backlog :) | 18:16 |
| mordred | clarkb: zomg | 18:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: it is a fool proof plan, if everyone is one vacation then we don't flail about | 18:17 |
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| * kiall heads home for the night, thanks for the help clarkb/fungi | 18:18 | |
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| * anteaya is pretty sure she could manage to flail on vacation as well | 18:20 | |
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| clarkb | hmm we lost fungi | 18:28 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: what happened here?: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54221/ | 18:29 |
| mtreinish | yeah I just noticed that | 18:29 |
| mtreinish | any idea why those were cancelled? | 18:29 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: no idea, checking zuul logs now | 18:29 |
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| mordred | god. losing fungi seems like a TERRIBLE thing to do | 18:33 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: it looks like zuul aborted those builds for some reason | 18:35 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: hmm, ok I'll just no bug them then | 18:36 |
| zaro | where's fungi?? | 18:36 |
| mtreinish | lost at sea... | 18:37 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: I think this may be a bug in zuul | 18:37 |
| zaro | clarkb: can you please point me to where i can fix this the title of the first publication on this web page? http://docs.openstack.org/infra/publications/ | 18:38 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: ok, there wasn't anything in the logs? Is there somewhere I can look to track it down? | 18:38 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: what I think happened is zuul cancelled those builds beacuse a change ahead of 54221 failed, but then it didn't restart the jobs on 54221 properly | 18:39 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: I am about to paste what I have found from the zuul debug log | 18:39 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: http://paste.openstack.org/show/50322/ is the condensed log | 18:42 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: I am going to submit a zuul bug which you can use if you want | 18:42 |
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| rakhmerov | fungi: hi, even mistral repo seems to have been created successfully for some reason I don't see any links to logs when I send my patchsets. Could you please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54741/ . It looks like something is not fully configured yet | 18:46 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zuul/+bug/1246838 | 18:47 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: ok cool | 18:47 |
| clarkb | rakhmerov: fungi isn't in channel currently | 18:48 |
| rakhmerov | woops, I see now | 18:48 |
| clarkb | it looks like zuul has a corrupt local copy of the mitral repo | 18:48 |
| zaro | stepping out for a little. | 18:48 |
| clarkb | rakhmerov: if you promise to not doing anything in gerrit with mistral for a few minutes I can try and fix that under zuul | 18:49 |
| rakhmerov | clarkb: is it because of some internal misconfiguration? | 18:49 |
| rakhmerov | clarkb: I do promise you :) | 18:49 |
| clarkb | rakhmerov: there was a bug in manage-projects at some point | 18:49 |
| clarkb | and I think that broke the clone that zuul got | 18:49 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, I know, sorry about that | 18:49 |
| rakhmerov | I may actually have some problems on my side but locally it all runs ok, so I just should be able to see some logs at least | 18:50 |
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| clarkb | rakhmerov: ok, give it a try now | 18:53 |
| clarkb | just recheck no bug should work | 18:53 |
| clarkb | I went ahead and did a recheck, lets see how that goes | 18:55 |
| clarkb | looks like it is working now | 18:55 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I just stepped out for a minute | 18:55 |
| rakhmerov | let me see | 18:55 |
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| rakhmerov | awesome, it's ok now. I see the logs | 18:56 |
| rakhmerov | thanks a lot! | 18:56 |
| clarkb | np | 18:57 |
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| anteaya | can I run puppet apply --modulepath first and then puppet apply -e afterwards? | 19:02 |
| clarkb | anteaya: you need the modulepath to be properly set whenever using stuff in that modulepath | 19:03 |
| clarkb | if I understand the question correctly, no you will need the --modelepath when using -e | 19:03 |
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| anteaya | okay thanks, I was attempting to isolate one point of failure at a time | 19:06 |
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| dstufft | how the hell do I publish a draft comment in gerrit | 19:12 |
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| mordred | dstufft: go to the main page of the review and click the review button | 19:13 |
| mordred | dstufft: it is one of my least favorite ui features | 19:14 |
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| dstufft | mordred: ok | 19:14 |
| dstufft | thanks | 19:14 |
| dstufft | mordred: gerrit's UI is awful all around :[ | 19:15 |
| mordred | dstufft: it certainly has its ups and its downs. :) there is a set of keybindings you might find lessen the evil | 19:16 |
| mordred | dstufft: press ? on any page and it'll pop up a list of shortcuts | 19:16 |
| mgagne | anyone knows if there will be power outlets in conference rooms at HK? | 19:16 |
| mordred | mgagne: absolutely no idea | 19:17 |
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| fungi | and unsplit | 19:20 |
| mordred | look. it's a fungi | 19:23 |
| lifeless | s/a/some/ ? | 19:23 |
| lifeless | grammar! | 19:23 |
| fungi | indeed | 19:23 |
| * fungi are plural | 19:23 | |
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| Shrews | and yet Shrews is singular | 19:26 |
| Shrews | and one of those is too many :/ | 19:26 |
| anteaya | and what kind of power outlets if there are some? | 19:26 |
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| mordred | dhellmann, clarkb, fungi: I'd like to make lifeless pbr-core, as he's one of the few people who consistently reviews pbr patches | 19:31 |
| fungi | mordred: he has my vote | 19:32 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42393/ could really use an upgrade to +2 | 19:37 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: fungi: it's stalled. Either some core needs to gamble, or you need to decide who can give a second +2 and reach out to them (e.g. a horizon dev?) | 19:37 |
| mordred | ok. I'm going to go for it. anybody object? | 19:39 |
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| lifeless | fungi: mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53646/ needs a +2, it's trivial. | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add the ability to perist the Zuul Status filter with a cookie. https://review.openstack.org/42393 | 19:45 |
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| mordred | ok. well, there's the scary patch landed | 19:51 |
| mordred | ryanpetrello: ^^ | 19:51 |
| ryanpetrello | :D I saw | 19:51 |
| ryanpetrello | wait, that was a scary patch? | 19:51 |
| mordred | yes | 19:51 |
| mordred | we were all terrified of it | 19:51 |
| openstackgerrit | DennyZhang proposed a change to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: fix typo https://review.openstack.org/54816 | 19:51 |
| mordred | your javascript foo is stronger than mine | 19:52 |
| ryanpetrello | haha | 19:52 |
| ryanpetrello | I could say the same for your Jenkins-fu | 19:52 |
| mordred | well, we each have our fu's | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: doc: fix typos, missing parentheses, upper/lower case https://review.openstack.org/53646 | 19:52 |
| mordred | fungi: so - modules/pypimirror seems to be cruft | 19:52 |
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| mordred | or, rather. hrm. | 19:54 |
| mordred | yeah. it's total poop | 19:54 |
| mordred | because we do all of the mirror building on the slaves | 19:54 |
| fungi | mordred: yeah, i think that dated back to when we did it on pypi.o.o when it was still a separate vm | 19:55 |
| mordred | fungi: WE ARE STILL RUNNING A CRON JOB THERE???? | 19:55 |
| fungi | mordred: might be. did that vm not get deleted yet? | 19:56 |
| mordred | fungi: oh righ t- because it's just a venv on static now right? | 19:56 |
| fungi | yes, if you went by dns name you ended up on static | 19:57 |
| fungi | not venv, apache vhost, but i assume that's what you meant | 19:57 |
| mordred | yah | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove old pypi host cruft https://review.openstack.org/54817 | 19:58 |
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| * fungi needs to simultaneously pack and get ready for trick-or-treaters | 19:58 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch from jeepyb to pypi-mirror https://review.openstack.org/54818 | 20:02 |
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| bodepd_ | can I specify a schedule with jjb jobs? | 20:07 |
| reed | anteaya, mordred, just found an alternative to owncloud, non php http://cozy.io/ | 20:07 |
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| bodepd_ | ah, maybe a cron based trigger... | 20:08 |
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| bodepd_ | I found it nm | 20:09 |
| * anteaya hopes for autoconf | 20:13 | |
| * anteaya clicks | 20:13 | |
| dhellmann | mordred: +1 on lifeless as pbr-core | 20:14 |
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| anteaya | reed: in the documentation is says that it runs and installer script, same issue as seafile | 20:19 |
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| anteaya | I am asking in the #cozycloud channel to see if I have an option to feed it an autoconf file | 20:20 |
| anteaya | and thanks for the option, reed | 20:20 |
| reed | anteaya, what's the problem with an installer script? | 20:20 |
| reed | btw, others are also asking them to package it for debian | 20:20 |
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| anteaya | reed: I can't puppet an installer script | 20:22 |
| anteaya | I want to put content on one autoconfig file and say go | 20:22 |
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| reed | anteaya, uhm ... I thought that groups-dev has an installer script, let me check | 20:22 |
| anteaya | then if it needs to find values in the autoconf file and generate ids or create admin accounts it can | 20:23 |
| reed | check it out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42608/ | 20:23 |
| reed | not sure this is what you mean though | 20:23 |
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| anteaya | I think that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42608/9/modules/drupal/files/drupal_site_deploy.sh is what I mean | 20:24 |
| anteaya | which is what I was warned away from doing | 20:25 |
| reed | interesting | 20:27 |
| reed | clarkb, fungi and jeblair reviewed that patch | 20:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: lifeless in pbr-core is fine by me | 20:28 |
| clarkb | I am taking a UK power adaptor | 20:29 |
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| anteaya | I am going to have to buy a UK adapter there | 20:30 |
| clarkb | radio shack has them if others need/want them | 20:31 |
| anteaya | really? | 20:31 |
| clarkb | yup that is where I got mine | 20:31 |
| clarkb | fungi: wb, should we push ssh keys through now? | 20:31 |
| anteaya | I was there yesterday, I didn't think to ask, but I doubt my local store has them | 20:31 |
| anteaya | I feel like I am getting some mixed signals about how to address teh puppet | 20:32 |
| anteaya | about what is or is not possible | 20:32 |
| sdague | anteaya: I got a bundle of 3 from Amazon the other day. If you don't end up finding one before I see you you can have one of them. | 20:32 |
| clarkb | anteaya: if possible I wouldn't write an installer script | 20:32 |
| sdague | I'll just throw them in my bag | 20:32 |
| anteaya | sdague: thank you | 20:32 |
| anteaya | cool thanks | 20:32 |
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| clarkb | it is better to directly configure services with puppet | 20:32 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yeah, well it isn't looking terribly possible | 20:32 |
| clarkb | not always possible but if possible | 20:33 |
| anteaya | I can see that | 20:33 |
| anteaya | right | 20:33 |
| anteaya | I'm feeling squeezed between the expectation and the reality | 20:33 |
| anteaya | I just want mordred to have something for Sunday | 20:33 |
| anteaya | and I am feeling that I am not going to make that | 20:33 |
| anteaya | given my current direction | 20:34 |
| * anteaya stands up a cozy cloud | 20:34 | |
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| fungi | clarkb: ahh, yep. reviewing | 20:36 |
| anteaya | nope, cozy expects me to be downloading a script locally to run the remote server, nope | 20:36 |
| clarkb | fungi: pushing your key in now | 20:36 |
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| anteaya | I don't see any key signing or anything | 20:36 |
| anteaya | so much for cozy | 20:36 |
| clarkb | mordred: still around? | 20:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: puppet agent hasn't been running on puppet master for a long time (since we disabled salt which has since been reenabled) | 20:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: in the mean time we have been manually applying changes. Do you think we should restart the daemon before the summit? | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Two new SSH keys for myself https://review.openstack.org/54226 | 20:38 |
| fungi | clarkb: approved yours | 20:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: thanks | 20:39 |
| fungi | clarkb: mordred: fwiw i am in favor of starting it back up | 20:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think I am too | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add temporary summit pubkey for clarkb. https://review.openstack.org/54379 | 20:40 |
| reed | gawd! openstack-dev not having the proper reply-to set :( | 20:42 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, so with the requirements update automatic reviews... if one is no longer possible (e.g. merge conflict) is it best to manually rebase it? not sure how that job works. | 20:43 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49190/ | 20:44 |
| clarkb | reed: and someone changed the list-id which broke my filter | 20:45 |
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| reed | clarkb, ah, interesting | 20:45 |
| reed | I don't remember doing that | 20:45 |
| reed | time to change the password? | 20:46 |
| clarkb | reed: meh, its not a huge deal. I have a hunch that ttx did it | 20:46 |
| reed | clarkb, why would he do that? | 20:46 |
| clarkb | reed: because whoever changed it add a not for general use disclaimer :) | 20:46 |
| reed | besides, where do you change the list-id? I thought it was baked | 20:47 |
| clarkb | no idea | 20:47 |
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| reed | mrda, funny nick if you speak Italian :) | 20:48 |
| mrda | reed, can you enlighten me? I don't speak Italian. | 20:49 |
| reed | I guess the equivalent in English would be sht | 20:49 |
| mrda | oh ok, so my name reflects my code :) | 20:49 |
| reed | :) | 20:51 |
| reed | i'll force myself to read it as Mr. Da :) | 20:51 |
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| lifeless | fungi: mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53222/ seems ready for 2x+2. | 20:53 |
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| clarkb | lifeless: darn I think I did that change wrong | 20:54 |
| clarkb | yeah let me fix it really quick | 20:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish python-ironicclient tarballs. https://review.openstack.org/53222 | 20:56 |
| clarkb | lifeless: fungi: mordred: ^ is ebtter | 20:56 |
| lifeless | clarkb: what did you change? | 20:58 |
| lifeless | clarkb: also isn't it 'Closes-Bug: # ? | 20:58 |
| clarkb | lifeless: I removed the uneeded job group from projects.yaml | 20:58 |
| clarkb | lifeless: its either | 20:58 |
| clarkb | but I used the unadvertised one... | 20:58 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I don't see a projects.yaml change | 20:58 |
| clarkb | lifeless: it was there in ps1 and no longer there in ps2 | 20:59 |
| lifeless | clarkb: oh right | 20:59 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: so publish jobs isn't needed to make tarballs? | 21:00 |
| clarkb | lifeless: nope, tarball jobs are in python-jobs | 21:00 |
| clarkb | I had mistakenly thought they were part of publish jobs. publish jobs is for documentation stuff | 21:00 |
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| fungi | closes-bug and fixes-bug both work, but since the wiki mentions closes-bug and we want to avoid seeding additional confusion over preferred forms, we only fully highlight the closes-bug header in commit messages | 21:00 |
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| clarkb | ya I chose the wrong one :( | 21:01 |
| anteaya | what I would really, really like to do is fork owncloud's 5.0.12 version and pull in this change: https://github.com/owncloud/core/commit/08e1147a6b9146b2b0cc1d234f5b40c0b5e9c4e9 then use vcsrepo to git clone the fork | 21:01 |
| lifeless | clarkb: ack | 21:01 |
| anteaya | then I can use autoconf to puppet up owncloud | 21:01 |
| lifeless | clarkb: is it worth repushing with the official one, to reduce confusion for folk reading logs? | 21:01 |
| anteaya | and I think owncloud has a much more straightforward gui structure | 21:02 |
| anteaya | hence happier users | 21:02 |
| clarkb | lifeless: I don't think so | 21:02 |
| clarkb | lifeless: if this was a complex change then maybe, but we are just adding jobs | 21:02 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I'm more thinking folk do 'git log ...' | 21:02 |
| lifeless | clarkb: and learn by copying | 21:02 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: my biggest concern with that is owncloud has a history of patching silly security vulnerabilities. If you were to fork it and do your own thing there may be a significant amount of work involved to keep up with future potential security fixes | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix indentation in example of Logrotate section https://review.openstack.org/54828 | 21:04 |
| clarkb | lifeless: good point. It is a simple change I will update it | 21:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish python-ironicclient tarballs. https://review.openstack.org/53222 | 21:04 |
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| lifeless | fungi: your stamp needed again :) | 21:05 |
| lifeless | clarkb: thank you | 21:05 |
| anteaya | clarkb: fair enough, but how is using a tarball for seafile any different? | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: you just grab the latest tarball when you have to fix a security issue | 21:06 |
| * fungi warms up the ink pad for his +2 stamp | 21:06 | |
| clarkb | instead of manuallyneeding to patch things because you have diverged from upstream | 21:06 |
| clarkb | anteaya: its possible we just eat the cost of some hand configured things now since they are moving to making it automagic in the future | 21:07 |
| anteaya | oh, well 5.0.12 is the latest stable version and then they move to 6, they are in alpha for six | 21:07 |
| anteaya | this feature will be in version 6 | 21:07 |
| anteaya | I don't know if they will come out with more 5 versions or not | 21:07 |
| anteaya | but this is in master, so it is possible it would be in other versions of 5 | 21:08 |
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| anteaya | I think we are looking at manual steps whichever way we turn | 21:08 |
| anteaya | owncloud or seafile | 21:08 |
| anteaya | and owncloud will be easier for the users to use | 21:09 |
| anteaya | better ux I feel | 21:09 |
| anteaya | I hear what you are saying, clarkb, and I agree with you | 21:10 |
| anteaya | I think I have to make the best bad choice now though | 21:10 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I am not arguing for or against either option. I am just trying to provide the considerations that need to be made when making a decision | 21:10 |
| anteaya | right | 21:11 |
| zaro | how do i git review to another branch? | 21:11 |
| clarkb | zaro: git review $BRANCH_NAME | 21:11 |
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| zaro | clarkb: it says 'no new changes'. | 21:12 |
| fungi | zaro: or if you set the defaultbranch in the .gitreview on your branch like i suggested, git review will dtrt automagically | 21:12 |
| clarkb | zaro: then the change has already been pushed | 21:12 |
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| zaro | clarkb: ohh of course. i already pushed it to master. | 21:13 |
| clarkb | abandon that change, change the change-id then push to the correct branch | 21:13 |
| clarkb | that should fix it | 21:13 |
| clarkb | assuming of course that a funny rebase didn't happen and make things go really sidewys | 21:14 |
| zaro | clarkb: yep. thanks. | 21:14 |
| clarkb | anteaya: personally I would be fine with owncloud or seafile since I think it comes down to using the least bad one :) eg neither wins so either is "fine" | 21:18 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: yeah, thanks | 21:24 |
| jhesketh__ | Morning | 21:24 |
| clarkb | jhesketh__: hi there | 21:25 |
| anteaya | hmmm when I clone owncloud core, I don't get the 5.0.12 tag, the oldest is 5.0.9 | 21:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: are your keys happy? I was able to get on review-dev so in general they are working. I think we should go ahead and start puppet agent on the master | 21:25 |
| mrda | morning jhesketh__ | 21:25 |
| anteaya | but I do see that owncloud 6 is in beta now, not alpha | 21:25 |
| clarkb | anteaya: was there strong dissent to running 6? | 21:26 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: I have not heard any dissent, I hadn't mentioned it before since they were in alpha | 21:27 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 21:27 |
| anteaya | but now they are in beta | 21:27 |
| anteaya | so, mentioning | 21:27 |
| anteaya | I think i am going to stand up an owncloud 6 and see what comes of it | 21:27 |
| clarkb | ++ | 21:27 |
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| zaro | anteaya: what was the problem with seafile? why go back to owncloud? | 21:31 |
| clarkb | I think it has the same config issues that plague owncloud | 21:31 |
| fungi | clarkb: i've started puppet agent on the master again, as discussed | 21:34 |
| clarkb | fungi: great | 21:34 |
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| fungi | testing my new keys out in a moment | 21:35 |
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| clarkb | I have been watching the number of tcp connections on etherpad.o.o slowly climb over the week, but memory and cpu consumption seem to have held steady | 21:35 |
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| clarkb | fungi: mine seems to be happy | 21:37 |
| anteaya | zaro: seafile would use about 20 different variables, and generate some special ids and uuids | 21:38 |
| anteaya | so different obstacles but the same kind of pain to puppet | 21:39 |
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| anteaya | clarifing about 20 different variables the puppet files would have to track and pass around | 21:39 |
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| asalkeld | hi guys, is it possible to look for "Close-bug" (as well as "Closes-bug") in commit messages? | 21:40 |
| clarkb | asalkeld: I think we are trying to restrict the set because more variability just causes confusion | 21:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ is that why we don't have fixes-bug? | 21:40 |
| asalkeld | seeing many bugs left openstate | 21:40 |
| asalkeld | and it's easy to miss in review | 21:40 |
| asalkeld | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1226841 | 21:41 |
| asalkeld | case in point ^ | 21:41 |
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| clarkb | the regex in gerrit will only fully match correct strings | 21:42 |
| clarkb | which should be helpful eyeballing it in review | 21:42 |
| anteaya | asalkeld: perhaps the solution might be a patch to lint or flake to enforce the expected syntax | 21:42 |
| asalkeld | maybe | 21:42 |
| asalkeld | or git review | 21:42 |
| clarkb | (I am open to relaxing the regex, but we tend to find that it just causes confusion later on when people aren't sureabout what is correct) | 21:43 |
| anteaya | perhaps, I don't know if git review has a syntax parser | 21:43 |
| clarkb | the accepted headers are documetned on the wiki | 21:43 |
| asalkeld | sure, it's just to save on mistakes | 21:43 |
| asalkeld | thanks, gota be off | 21:43 |
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| hashar | hallo | 21:47 |
| fungi | right, back when we had one and only one behavior it was easy to just match on any old pattern. now that we have several the idea is that by being particular about the syntax will help people keep straight which one does what | 21:47 |
| mordred | anteaya, clarkb: I kinda think that perhaps for owncloud we just give up on having it 100% puppetted for now | 21:47 |
| hashar | pabelanger: hello there :-] I got Zuul packaged again zuul_1.3.0-1_all.deb ! | 21:47 |
| mordred | we've run gerrit with a puppet + manual steps setup for quite a while now | 21:47 |
| mordred | hashar: woot | 21:48 |
| clarkb | mordred: wfm | 21:48 |
| anteaya | mordred: thank you | 21:48 |
| hashar | mordred: I added a bug to request a new tag for Zuul https://bugs.launchpad.net/zuul/+bug/1246799 might want to add that to some meeting / mailing list / whatever. | 21:48 |
| anteaya | mordred: so what do you want owncloud from packages a la https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53868/ or owncloud 6 beta? | 21:49 |
| * fungi is going to be mostly afk for the evening, packing and frightening small children | 21:49 | |
| anteaya | fungi: have fun storming the castle | 21:49 |
| clarkb | fungi: BOOO! | 21:49 |
| fungi | clarkb: both my new and temporary keys check out too | 21:49 |
| clarkb | fungi: will you be around tomorrow? | 21:49 |
| clarkb | or are you flying? | 21:49 |
| fungi | clarkb: depends on how good the in-flight wifi is over the north pole | 21:49 |
| fungi | yes, flying | 21:50 |
| mordred | anteaya: I do not care about packages at all | 21:50 |
| mordred | in this context | 21:50 |
| anteaya | okay, thanks | 21:50 |
| clarkb | ok, I might just pretend I am flying tomorrow too >_> | 21:50 |
| anteaya | let me see if I can get v6 puppeted while waiting for the laundry to dry | 21:50 |
| fungi | clarkb: i'll be heading to the airport basically first thing, and won't be done until saturday evening hk time | 21:50 |
| anteaya | if no, 53868 will come back to life | 21:51 |
| fungi | stupid international date line | 21:51 |
| clarkb | I don't leave until Saturday morning, but need to finish getting ready and stuff tomorrow so won't be super useful anyways | 21:51 |
| clarkb | I have to do things like vote | 21:51 |
| clarkb | WA and OR have it good with vote by mail but having the summit during election day must be hard for people in other states | 21:51 |
| fungi | nc decided to scale back advance voting so that only the whims of retirees will be counted | 21:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: you have been the butt of many late night satire show jokes | 21:53 |
| anteaya | fungi me too | 21:53 |
| fungi | i suspect so. just glad i don't watch those | 21:53 |
| * clarkb makes a mental note to suggest not having the summit during this week next year for voting reasons | 21:54 | |
| anteaya | if I am just wanting the code to run, does it matter if am in in detached head state in the repo? | 21:56 |
| anteaya | I did git checkout <tag> | 21:56 |
| clarkb | no | 21:56 |
| anteaya | great | 21:57 |
| anteaya | detached head state is so appropriate for the evening | 21:57 |
| anteaya | nearly-detached head state would be just that much better | 21:57 |
| reed | anteaya, are you going to HK? | 21:58 |
| anteaya | reed yes | 21:59 |
| reed | great! | 21:59 |
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| anteaya | reed thanks, I am looking forward to it | 22:01 |
| anteaya | for /var/www or /srv/http do we care? | 22:02 |
| reed | i hope to be able to buy a microscooter near the hotel to scoot through the place | 22:02 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 22:02 |
| anteaya | thanks for the warning | 22:02 |
| reed | i vote for /srv/http... looks more modern | 22:02 |
| anteaya | get one of those horns like that marx brother had | 22:02 |
| reed | yeah :) | 22:02 |
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| anteaya | harpo marx | 22:04 |
| anteaya | reed okay, I'm all about appearances /srv/http it is | 22:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | DennyZhang proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: add introduction for README document https://review.openstack.org/54796 | 22:05 |
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| lifeless | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54791/ | 22:11 |
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| lifeless | mordred: minor question about test-requirements, otherwise I think you should hunt +2s from fungi and clarkb | 22:12 |
| lifeless | clarkb: fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48855/ should be gtg with +2s. | 22:13 |
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| clarkb | lifeless: I am still a bit torn on whether we should fork semver | 22:19 |
| clarkb | it seems like such a heavyweight "solution" ot a minor problem | 22:19 |
| mordred | lifeless: re: test reuqirements | 22:19 |
| mordred | lifeless: pypi-mirror is used in a virtualenv that's created in tools/integration.sh | 22:19 |
| mordred | so there are no things that consume test-requirements.txt that would interact with pypi-mirror | 22:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: my main reason for forking was that I think that having a document that says "we're semver, except for these differences" would be hard to follow | 22:20 |
| mordred | I'm not 100% convinced it's correct | 22:21 |
| mordred | just seemed like a single document would be easier to consume | 22:21 |
| clarkb | if the changes were extensive I owuld agree, but isn't the major problem having ~stuff at the end? | 22:22 |
| mordred | kinda | 22:22 |
| clarkb | I think we can express that without a fork | 22:22 |
| mordred | the version in the pbr doc gets specific about the stuff at the end | 22:22 |
| mordred | whereas in semver it's 100% free form | 22:22 |
| mordred | I'm open to a not-fork if you think/feel strongly that it will be clearer | 22:23 |
| mordred | the main thing I wanted to avoid was consumption cost for someone what wanted to learn the rules | 22:23 |
| clarkb | I am weighing a dislike of forks pretty heavily into that opinion :) | 22:23 |
| mordred | yah. from a doc maint perspective, it's more work | 22:24 |
| mordred | but I don't expect it to change much | 22:24 |
| clarkb | I think the vast majority of people that really care about versions will be familiar with semver and having a small thing on how we differ won't be too hard to consume | 22:24 |
| mordred | ok | 22:24 |
| mordred | that wouldn't let me be snarky towards arrogant github boy as much though | 22:25 |
| reed | you would anyway | 22:25 |
| mordred | I mean, seriously, who puts their resume into a spec? | 22:25 |
| mordred | yeah. can't stop me | 22:25 |
| reed | srsly? | 22:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: I can put my resume in the fork if you like >_> | 22:25 |
| mordred | :) | 22:26 |
| mordred | "The Semantic Versioning specification is authored by Tom Preston-Werner, inventor of Gravatars and cofounder of GitHub." | 22:26 |
| reed | ahahah | 22:26 |
| mordred | everything about that sentence I believe sums up why I think github is about stoking ego | 22:26 |
| mordred | "The Semantic Versioning specification is authored by Tom Preston-Werner" would be quite sufficient | 22:26 |
| reed | they invented the interwebs, didn't you know? | 22:26 |
| mordred | sigh | 22:26 |
| mordred | lame | 22:27 |
| reed | americans, for anybody not educated here :) | 22:27 |
| clarkb | now now it was just Gore :) | 22:27 |
| mordred | it was actually **REDACTED** | 22:28 |
| reed | and Tom Preston-Werner was his high-tech consultant | 22:28 |
| reed | and, tell you what, I was there :) | 22:28 |
| * reed goes back in the cave | 22:28 | |
| clarkb | mordred: I am tempted to try going back to running pep8 jobs before any other tests | 22:30 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I obviously am a big fan of it | 22:35 |
| mordred | clarkb: why did we stop again? | 22:35 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think because we wanted multiple checks first | 22:35 |
| clarkb | but with flake8 now maybe that isn't an issue | 22:35 |
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| mordred | so, I _think_ that jeblair's main concern | 22:36 |
| mordred | was that it adds the runtime of pep8 serially | 22:36 |
| clarkb | in the last 24 hours 55 pep8 tests have failed | 22:37 |
| clarkb | that is 55 too many :) | 22:37 |
| mordred | which makes overall runtime in cases where pep8 succeeds longer | 22:37 |
| clarkb | it does | 22:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think that should serve as incentive to developers to run tox -epep8 locally | 22:41 |
| mordred | clarkb: hangon. You think it will do that? | 22:43 |
| clarkb | I don't think it will, but it should :/ | 22:43 |
| mordred | heh | 22:43 |
| mordred | how about electro shock? | 22:43 |
| clarkb | if we can configure zuul to shock people in retaliation I say we go with that | 22:44 |
| pleia2 | haha | 22:44 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: are you out tomorrow as well? | 22:45 |
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| pleia2 | clarkb: I'm around in the morning, but afternoon I need to errands and pack for leaving tomorrow evening | 22:46 |
| pleia2 | managed to get some of my tripleo stuff into a good stopping place today though so I'm pleased | 22:47 |
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| zaro | can i bother a core for a publication approval?: https://review.openstack.org/54829 | 22:51 |
| zaro | apparently some people have asked for the slides from jenkins conference. | 22:51 |
| anteaya | pleia2: well done | 22:51 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: I still have a long way to to :) | 22:52 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: you are making good progress | 22:52 |
| anteaya | and knocking down those steps one at a time | 22:53 |
| anteaya | good for you | 22:53 |
| pleia2 | s/to/go | 22:53 |
| pleia2 | long day | 22:53 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 22:53 |
| pleia2 | thanks anteaya | 22:53 |
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| anteaya | :D | 22:56 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: fungi: also ready - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52437/ | 22:59 |
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| lifeless | and this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54386/ | 23:01 |
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| hashar | ohh | 23:09 |
| hashar | I can play with openstack-infra/* but not with openstack/requirements :( | 23:09 |
| hashar | lifeless: I can't add in sphinxcontrib-blockdiag>=0.5.5 to openstack/requirements right now. Got to read the CLA :-] | 23:10 |
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| hashar | followed up on change. I am off to bed. Good afternoon! | 23:13 |
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| anteaya | does apache just know to look in /srv/http? or do I have to tell it to look there? | 23:31 |
| clarkb | you will probably needt o tell it | 23:33 |
| clarkb | and set the docroot | 23:33 |
| anteaya | ah ha, I didnt' to that | 23:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Jenkins Dynamic Parameter Plug-in support https://review.openstack.org/53884 | 23:39 |
| clarkb | is it just me or are there no links to the summit schedule from the openstack website? | 23:40 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: I think you're right | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | I couldn't find a link on the site either, depended on link from the wiki | 23:42 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: that i swhere I found it | 23:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: fix typo https://review.openstack.org/54800 | 23:51 |
| anteaya | well I have successfully given myself a 403 | 23:53 |
| anteaya | so that is some sort of progress | 23:53 |
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