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| mordred | fungi, clarkb: his reading is contrary to the current normal reading | 00:03 |
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| mordred | the current tl;dr on the subject is that the patent grant in APLv2 is limited to the specific contributions you make, where as the GPLv3 patent grant covers any patents that any element of the work may cover, even if they were not the areas in which you contributed | 00:04 |
| fungi | yes, that was my takeaway as well | 00:05 |
| mordred | which is the reasons that corporations are currently more readily happy about apache than gpl - they're happy to grant a patent license for the code they contribute | 00:05 |
| mordred | but they don't want to give a patent grant to the project for code that someone else might contribute | 00:05 |
| mordred | as that would give someone a quick and easy way to undermine a patent held by a contributing company | 00:06 |
| mordred | now - as for me | 00:06 |
| mordred | I think that all software patents are total and absolute bullshit | 00:06 |
| mordred | so I'm more in favor of GPLv3 | 00:06 |
| mordred | which I think does more to undermine the exitence of software patents across teh board | 00:06 |
| mordred | and make the world less full of donkey shit | 00:07 |
| mordred | but, you know, if asshole companies want to be more in favor of apache, then whatever | 00:07 |
| clarkb | we should all move to new zealand | 00:07 |
| mordred | :) | 00:07 |
| mordred | clarkb: +1000 | 00:07 |
| fungi | a big -- to software patents and contributor license agreements in my opinion | 00:07 |
| Alex_Gaynor | then we'd be in new zealand though | 00:07 |
| fungi | Alex_Gaynor: there's room | 00:07 |
| sdague | mordred: un-patent related, when you getting to new orleans? | 00:09 |
| mordred | sdague: here already | 00:09 |
| sdague | oh cool | 00:09 |
| mordred | sdague: when are _YOU_ getting here? | 00:09 |
| sdague | noon tomorrow | 00:09 |
| mordred | awesome | 00:09 |
| mordred | so you are not available to come with us to Snug Harbor tonight | 00:10 |
| sdague | that would be true | 00:10 |
| mordred | sdague: k. good to know | 00:10 |
| mordred | you wanna go to my friend Thrace's house tomorrow at 3pm to watch the Saint's game? | 00:10 |
| sdague | however, count me as generally available for plans after that | 00:10 |
| sdague | that might be a thing, let me figure out how exhausted I am from getting up at 3:30am for my flight tomorrow :) | 00:11 |
| clarkb | mordred: sunday night football is in seattle tomorrow. This poses issues for potentially doing things with people in seattle tomorrow night | 00:11 |
| sdague | as I might need crash time | 00:11 |
| mordred | sdague: ++ | 00:11 |
| mordred | clarkb: fair | 00:11 |
| mordred | clarkb: OH - so... | 00:11 |
| mordred | clarkb: I have a side-bet going on with spike about the New Orleans - Seattle game in November | 00:11 |
| sdague | ok, back to packing.... | 00:11 |
| mordred | if nola wins, spike has to wear a pele shirt - if seattle wins, I have to wear a garrincha shirt | 00:12 |
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| mordred | (I'm a Saints person now) | 00:12 |
| clarkb | mordred: the NFC south and NFC west should be a lot of fun to watch this season | 00:13 |
| mordred | yah | 00:13 |
| mordred | anyone in channel who knows who garrincha is gets extra credit | 00:13 |
| clarkb | I had to google it | 00:14 |
| mordred | :) | 00:19 |
| mordred | spike and I have a long-running argument as to whether pele or garrincha is the best brazillian soccer player of all time | 00:19 |
| mordred | of course, spike is DEAD WRONG | 00:20 |
| mordred | because when I tell people in Brazil that I grew up with a paintin of pele on my wall, they all get it | 00:20 |
| mordred | and only some of them know who the hell garrincha is | 00:20 |
| mordred | but spike is a sports writer | 00:20 |
| mordred | http://www.grantland.com/contributor/_/name/spike-friedman | 00:20 |
| clarkb | ah see sports writers need to say/write controversial things to keep you reading/watching. Like when multiple people picked Texas A&M to win today or ESPN calling a blowout in the Eagles Redskins game. | 00:23 |
| mordred | I was on board for A&M to win | 00:24 |
| mordred | or at least not embarras themselves :) | 00:24 |
| mordred | cause, I mena, Manziel is nuts | 00:24 |
| clarkb | and he had his moments today | 00:26 |
| clarkb | but Alabama is Alabama | 00:26 |
| mordred | this is a good pint | 00:26 |
| mordred | there were many people around me saying "roll tide" | 00:26 |
| mordred | which is what happens when you watch that game in nola | 00:26 |
| clarkb | I didn't want Alabama to win, but I fully expected them to | 00:27 |
| * fungi had a good pint too | 00:38 | |
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| Alex_Gaynor | Should the OpenStack foundation have a security contact address which can receive things like notifications of upstream security releases? | 02:59 |
| clarkb | Alex_Gaynor: something like http://www.openstack.org/projects/openstack-security/ ? | 03:21 |
| Alex_Gaynor | clarkb: oh. hey. thanks | 03:21 |
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| anteaya | morning | 14:21 |
| anteaya | I am heading out for some breakfast and then will be back around in a while if anyone wants to hang out today | 14:22 |
| anteaya | I'll exit again but I will read the logs | 14:22 |
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