Thursday, 2013-07-25

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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: updated htmlifier for safety and features  https://review.openstack.org/3856800:06
sdagueclarkb: you want to take a spin on that00:06
sdagueI got rid of the glaring security hole, plus cleaned up other things00:07
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: updated htmlifier for safety and features  https://review.openstack.org/3856800:15
clarkbya reviewing now00:16
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mikalclarkb: openstack.stillhq.com/reviews/report.html00:27
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Conditionally install Python 3 development libs.  https://review.openstack.org/3810300:27
clarkbfungi: jeblair ^ want to review sdague's change really quick? if not I am going to approve it00:28
fungii'll take a quick peek00:28
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clarkbty00:30
fungisdague: "Pull out a save path from a url." was that a typo of "safe?" i'm going to assume so, otherwise i'm not sure what the word means in that context00:32
clarkbfungi: it is a typo00:33
sdaguetypo00:33
sdaguebut I need to go cook dinner now, so won't be able to fix that until later00:33
clarkbsdague: thats fine I am happy to merge as is00:33
clarkbsdague: I left some other improvement comments but nothing not worth merging over00:34
fungii don't mind the typo, just asking so i understand whati'm revewing00:34
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fungisdague: in safe_path() you're passing in root='/srv/static/logs/' from application() but then building newpath = os.path.abspath("%s/%s" % (root, raw))00:37
fungiso you get abspath('/srv/static/logs//something') there00:37
fungithe double-slash should get cleaned up by abspath, but want to make sure that's intentional00:38
clarkbfungi: abspath does clean it up. I am sure it is not intentional. Its probably worht a comment00:38
fungiif it's there to allow root to be optionally non-terminated then that's probably okay, but it's safest to always terminate the root path with a / so the find provides a more explicit result00:40
clarkbfungi: if you refresh I have left a comment that os.path.join would be beneficial there00:41
clarkbfungi: I think using os.path.join will make you happy and prevent double slashes00:41
sdagueit's actually a little intentional00:42
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fungii think passing in /srv/static/logs (without the slash) is probably a bad idea though, so catering to the possibility is questionable00:42
fungithough in most cases it's unlikely to lead to anything exploitable00:43
sdagueyeh, that's why I passed it with the /, and ran it through abspath to clean00:43
clarkbfungi: correct I think root should have a trailing slash.00:43
sdaguefirst thing went on the grill... so able to chat for a minute :)00:43
fungithe risk is a bit pathological, but to quote futurama out of context, "technically correct is the best kind of correct"00:44
sdagueheh00:44
sdaguefuturama is one of my favorite shows ever00:45
fungimine as well00:45
clarkbif I could buy slurm and man chow I probably would00:45
fungiBACHELOR chow00:45
clarkbthats what it was called00:45
fungii preferred soylent cola (made from the best stuff on earth: people!)00:46
fungianyway, dropping the modem again for more conferencing00:46
Ryan_LaneI'm upgrading mediawiki on wiki.openstack.org00:46
clarkbfungi: you ok with me approving?00:46
fungiclarkb: yeah, should be safe enough00:46
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fungi+2'd00:47
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sdagueI'm pretty sure - http://shop.naturespath.com/Panda-Puffs-Cereal/p/NPA-860044&c=NaturesPath@EnviroKidz is basically bachelor chow00:47
clarkbsdague: approved00:47
clarkbRyan_Lane: gl hf00:47
sdagueat least one guy in the office treated it as such for about 2 months00:47
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: updated htmlifier for safety and features  https://review.openstack.org/3856800:49
* clarkb runs home between before puppet can apply that00:51
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clarkbjust as I sit down for dinner docs jobs go unstable again. /me looks into it02:16
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clarkbumounted, fscked clean, mounted again seems to be ok02:21
clarkbit was a different error this time around02:21
clarkbjeblair: fungi ^ you may want to look at dmesg on static.o.o02:22
clarkband now time for dinner02:22
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* mordred throws a goat at clarkb05:25
clarkbmordred: the openstack party has goats? if I had known that05:26
mordredclarkb: sOOO many goats05:26
* Alex_Gaynor has linkedin endorsements for goats05:27
jesusaurusi hear you can teach goats to openstack05:28
mordred 7mmm05:28
mordredloat05:28
mordredgaot05:28
mordreddammit05:28
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clarkbwow05:29
* mordred throws goats indiscriminaantly into the air05:29
clarkbthat many goats?05:29
mordredALL the goats05:29
clarkbmordred: does this mean you IRC on your phone now?05:29
mordredI'm so done with the places with the alcohol05:29
clarkbmordred: also if you see fungi and/or jeblair it would be super duper if you could mention to them about the docs-draft derpage05:30
mordrednow you've got to deal with me on IRC  on a laptop05:30
clarkbmordred: oh and if you see spearce you should talk to him about our WIP needs05:30
clarkbmordred: and perhaps ask for ideas on making that upstreamable05:30
mordrednot tonight05:30
mordredcounterproductive05:30
mordredis spearce here?05:30
clarkbmordred: yes, he and Chris Dibona give the google open source update05:30
clarkbwhich at this point must be "We do GSoC and Gerrit"05:31
clarkb"oh and android is open source every 9 months or so"05:31
* clarkb is cranky about not having a 4.3 image for his phone because verizon05:31
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* mordred lobs a goat at verizon05:34
* mordred hefts a scimitar at clarkb05:34
clarkbmordred: when is the seattle thing with tripleo folks?05:37
mordredsept05:37
mordredclarkb: btw, jeblair and fungi and I had a good talk in person today about dib in d-g05:37
mordredclarkb: which was largely what was in that etherpad05:38
clarkboh good. is the use case starting to gel?05:38
mordredyah05:38
clarkbI should check if they gave us beta access05:39
clarkbmordred: also tomorrow you should comp that account :)05:39
mordredclarkb: I've also got a half-done dib element for us05:39
mordredclarkb: bah05:39
mordredclarkb: tomorrow I have a talk05:39
clarkbhave you written the talk yet?05:39
mordredclarkb: yup05:39
clarkboh if you see anyone from mirantis you might want to mention that their stackalytics thing seems to ignore us despite being hosted on stackforge05:40
mordredclarkb: I saw everyone who works at mirantis05:41
SergeyLukjanovhey guys, I'm from Mirantis05:41
SergeyLukjanovI'll address your comments to stackalytics team05:42
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: hi there. I was looking at stackalytics earlier this evening and the openstack-infra/* repos seem to be missing05:42
clarkbgranted we have a lot of them maybe it was too much work or something. In any case openstack-infra/config should probably be included05:42
SergeyLukjanovclarkb, mm, yep, see it too05:42
* mordred hands SergeyLukjanov a cake05:42
clarkbmordred: run out of goats?05:43
* mordred knows that mirantis doesnt' like being handed goats05:43
* mordred thinks mirantis might be his favorite OS company05:43
SergeyLukjanovthe same story with openstack-dev projects05:44
SergeyLukjanovI'll talk today with Ilya Shakhat that runs the stackalytics project about extending number of monitored projects05:45
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: awesome, thanks05:46
SergeyLukjanovbtw I have a small question about jobs that we can use in savanna)05:47
SergeyLukjanovi've proposed the change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37987/1/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml05:47
SergeyLukjanovit includes -docs jobs05:47
SergeyLukjanovis it ok to use them for savanna project?05:48
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: it is ok to use the gate-*-docs jobs in the check and gate queue. Typically it is not ok to use them in the post, pre-release and release queues as the *-docs jobs want to publish to docs.openstack.org whcih we are trying to keep for openstack projects05:48
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: however, We do have read the docs jobs that you can setup05:49
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: the read the docs jobs tell read the docs to update your docs whenever code merges. You shoudl eb able to see them in the layout file if you search for rtfd05:49
SergeyLukjanovclarkb, we are already using rtfd jobs05:49
clarkboh I see that now, yeah. Today rtfd is probably the best options for stackforge projects05:50
SergeyLukjanovclarkb, I'll remove gate-*-docs from post/release05:50
SergeyLukjanovso, it'll be able to see on docs w/o merging or manually building them for patches to docs05:51
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add more jobs for Savanna projects  https://review.openstack.org/3798705:55
SergeyLukjanovI've removed gate-savanna-docs has been removed from post/pre-release/release, could you please take a look at this patch set?05:58
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clarkbyup plan to tomorrow morning but now sleep06:20
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Vivekmordred: Hi06:34
Vivekmordred: I fell asleep last night.06:35
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jeblairclarkb, mordred, fungi: it appears dm-1 (docs-draft) has failed yet again (just about 20 minutes ago); i see clarkb fixed it a few hours ago07:18
jeblairi think that's three times that the same lv has failed; lvm says that it is on a single pv, so i'm going to add a new cinder volume and move it, deprecating the current pv that it's on07:18
jeblairlvs --segments -o +pe_ranges07:24
jeblairthat shows which pvs the lv is on07:24
jeblaircurrently running pvmove -n docs-draft /dev/xvdh1 /dev/xvdi107:24
jeblairalso unmounted and fscking the partition07:25
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Don't remove lost+found from static.o.o.  https://review.openstack.org/3780507:31
jeblairreading the lost+found directory triggers the error07:32
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jeblairnm, different error.07:39
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jeblairrepeated invocations of 'fsck -f' without mounting continue to try to correct similar errors; i think we may need a new filesystem as well07:44
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add progress and estimated completion times to zuul status  https://review.openstack.org/3859807:48
jeblairokay, i ran it 3 times and the most recent time it corrected no errors07:49
jeblairso i'm going to remount it and not touch lost+found07:49
jeblairafter the pvmove is done (in a few hours) and we remove the pv that encountered timeouts, we may want to consider making a new filesystem on a new lv and starting an rsync07:50
jeblairdocs-draft is remounted07:51
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markmcis the wiki in read-only mode or something?10:02
* markmc sees10:02
markmc2013-07-25T00:46:46  <Ryan_Lane> I'm upgrading mediawiki on wiki.openstack.org10:02
markmcI don't see a login button today, basically10:02
jpichmarkmc: Hm... I can't see the button either but accessing https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Special:OpenIDLogin directly works10:03
markmcjpich, super, thanks10:03
* markmc filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/120484110:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1204841 in openstack-ci "No login button on wiki" [Undecided,New]10:05
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openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Adds oslo.sphinx  https://review.openstack.org/3861710:21
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sdaguebummer that the wiki isn't under puppet control10:43
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openstackgerritSergey Kolekonov proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Pathignore plugin support added  https://review.openstack.org/3790910:56
openstackgerritSergey Kolekonov proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: HTML Publisher plugin support added  https://review.openstack.org/3787610:56
openstackgerritSergey Kolekonov proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: TextFinder plugin support added  https://review.openstack.org/3784910:56
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sdaguejeblair: did you have any further thoughts on the openstack-qa mail alias?11:31
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openstackgerritwill soula proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding the Sauce OnDemand Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/3794712:30
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jd__does that error raises a bell http://logs.openstack.org/40/38540/1/check/gate-pbr-devstack-vm-rawinstall/296/console.html ? (mordred maybe?)12:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/requirements: Updated minimal version of pymongo to 2.4.  https://review.openstack.org/3830613:53
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jd__dhellmann: do you happen to know why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38072/ failed? I'm having the same issues on a pbr patchset I sent14:06
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jpichjd__: FWIW today I had issues with setuptools locally as well and only managed to "fix" them by using the openstack pypi mirror in order to avoid the 404. I'm surprised this job is calling to upstream pypi14:18
jd__jpich: equally :)14:18
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ShrewsAs did I. I think a new version is out that hasn't yet propogated to all of the mirrors. Although it may have by now.14:28
Shrewsre: setuptools, that is14:29
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mordredjd__: that's failing building the mirror that it uses to test that building a mirror works14:43
jd__mordred: why is that part of pbr tests?14:44
mordredscuse me, misspoke. it's building the mirror that it uses to test that installing all of the projects works.14:45
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mordredwhich is does so that it can inject the currently tested version of pbr into that mirror14:45
mordredso that we can test that different install scenarios haven't gone bad14:46
mordredwe don't normally have that many problems in the pbr test - also because pbr doesn't get nearly as many patches as the rest of the project... but if it stays a problem, we might have to get cleverer14:46
jd__ok, that makes more sense :)14:49
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mordredactually - I see a bug in the integration script now that pip 1.4 is out...14:50
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Stop trying to install setuptools<0.7  https://review.openstack.org/3864715:08
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Install jeepyb and requirements from REPODIR  https://review.openstack.org/3818415:08
mkodererHi folks, I am not able to login to the OpenStack Wiki15:08
mkodererseems the login button is gone ;) could someone have a look15:09
Shrewsmordred: so does 38647 mean you must upgrade to pip 1.4 if you use pbr?15:10
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sdaguemordred: what's your thinking about unit test on python scripts in the config repo?15:11
sdagueor if something is getting that complicated, it should come out into another repo?15:11
mkoderersdague: I am not able to change the QA meeting wiki .. seems the wiki is somehow broken15:12
mordredShrews: no. it means that that integration script installs things via pip for testing which is now 1.4 by default from upstream15:12
sdaguemkoderer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/120484115:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1204841 in openstack-ci "No login button on wiki" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:12
mkoderersdague: great thanks!15:13
mordredShrews: we DO want to get everyone to upgrade to 1.4 though, because it fixes a bunch of issues, and also allows us to safely upload pre-release software to pypi without breaking peope15:13
mordredpeople15:13
mordredbut we have not gotten to that point yet15:13
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mordredsdague: yes. if they've gotten that complex, they should probably have their own home15:13
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mordredsdague: although I could certainly be argued off of that stance - it's not a strong one15:14
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mordredjd__: https://review.openstack.org/38647 should fix the pbr integration test gate15:14
sdaguemordred: I think it's a fine stance15:14
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sdagueI wonder if all the htmlifier filters in config should become a project together15:15
sdaguesubunit2html is in there as well, and not really unit tested15:15
sdagueand I get scared when I make changes to that15:15
mordredsdague: so, subunit2html wants to move to subunit itself I believe15:15
mordredbut clarkb wanted to clean it up before submitting it there15:15
sdagueis subunit in git?15:16
jd__mordred: cool I'll recheck once it's in then15:16
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sdagueor does that mean having to fight with bzr to make submissions15:16
mordredhtmlifier probably could be its own thing15:16
mordredsdague: fight with bzr15:16
mordredsdague: or, fight with lifeless to get him to move it to git15:16
sdaguehmph. I actually had some more prettinesses I wanted to add to subunit2html15:17
mordredoh - well please do!15:17
mordredalso, we could make it its own thing15:17
sdagueso it's a little easier if it lives in a gerrit tree, honestly15:17
mordredit's certainly a generally useful program15:17
mordredsdague: I fully support making it its own gerrit tree with its own pypi releases15:18
sdagueok15:18
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sdagueit seems a little weird to push something like the openstack log htmlifier to pypi, as it's so specific though15:22
mordredis it? couldn't it be used to htmlify other logs?15:23
sdagueit's pretty specific to the log format in OpenStack15:23
mordredhrm15:23
mordredk15:23
sdagueI'm not sure I have a strong opinion realistically, I just don't want to be seen poluting with non generic stuff.15:24
sdaguemy real goal is just to get unit testing around it though, because I borked a format thing on my last update (not terribly, but it should be different than it is)15:25
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dansmiththere was something else about the postgres gate job that was different, but I can't remember what it is15:31
dansmithjeblair said something last week I think15:31
jeblairsdague: i think it might become the first part of a log submission, processing, and retrieval system, if that helps you think about how to structure the repo/project.15:31
dansmithI'm trying to reproduce a fail that only happens there, but just moving to postgres isn't enough, apparently15:31
jeblairdansmith: zeromq15:32
dansmithoh, hmm.15:32
sdaguepostgresl is running on zmq now?15:32
jeblairmaybe15:32
sdagueif so, that's news to me15:32
jeblairer, no that's the gate-tempest-devstack-vm-postgres-zeromq-full job15:32
jeblairdansmith: i was wrong, gate-tempest-devstack-vm-postgres is only DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST=1 and DEVSTACK_GATE_POSTGRES=115:33
dansmithhmm, okay15:33
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jeblairdansmith: DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST_FULL=1 is not set on gate-tempest-devstack-vm-postgres15:34
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dansmithjeblair: wait, what? meaning it's not a full tempest run? it takes long enough that it seems like it's a full run15:34
dansmithoh15:34
dansmithgate-tempest-devstack-vm-postgres-full  is the test that fails for me15:34
dansmithwhich should be full and I don't see anything in the localrc about zmq15:35
jeblairdansmith: yep, DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST=1 DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST_FULL=1 DEVSTACK_GATE_POSTGRES=115:35
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dansmithwell, then I can't reproduce it here so jenkins is clearly wrong :P15:35
jeblairdansmith: sorry if i've lead you astray :(15:35
dansmithjeblair: it's all good :)15:36
clarkbgood morning15:38
clarkbjeblair: is the docs-draft pv situation good now? (eg you have migrated to a new pv and removed the old one?)15:38
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a CDR log file  https://review.openstack.org/3865115:38
clarkbreducing the d-g pool size does seem to have made the slave situation much better. I haven't caught any more occurences of the double test run and premature node delete15:41
jeblairclarkb: yes, i have removed the pv from the system and renamed it in the cinder interface to "this-has-timeout-errors"15:41
clarkbjeblair: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38565/1 I think that will help us debug the problem as it adds some logging and doesn't make the situation so painful (hopefully meaning we can observe it without making ttx angry :) )15:43
jeblairclarkb: next steps i think are to handle the (unconfirmed) possibility of a permanently bad FS: create a new lv, rsync docs-draft to it, poke around the old one a bit (including the l+f folder) and then consider switching to the new volume.15:43
jeblairclarkb: we have sufficient logging15:44
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jeblairclarkb: can you point to nodes with problems that i can look into?15:44
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clarkbjeblair: yeah there is a bunch of captured logs in the bug I opened. let me find that15:45
jeblairclarkb: is this just to address the timeout problem?15:45
clarkbjeblair: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1204625 has a paste full of relavent logs15:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1204625 in openstack-ci "Devstack gate launch jobs timeout confusing Jenkins and devstack gate" [High,Triaged]15:46
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a CDR log file  https://review.openstack.org/3865115:46
clarkbjeblair: the timeouts were the inspiration yes15:46
annegentleuh guys, the Wiki Signin link is gone? Mac OSX Chrome 2715:47
clarkbannegentle: yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1204841 that bug has a nasty workaround15:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1204841 in openstack-ci "No login button on wiki" [Critical,Confirmed]15:47
annegentlewoah15:47
clarkbI intend on asking Ryan_Lane to share a screen session with me when he fixes it so that I don't feel so useless when it comes to the wiki15:48
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jeblairclarkb: ok, so that's a known problem.  the best fix for that would be to detect the case where we are trying to add a node that is already in jenkins and set its state to ready if the state is building.15:48
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clarkband I will poke at it in a bit on my own probably15:48
annegentleheh we thought we were goign crazy15:48
jeblairclarkb: +1 wiki15:48
jeblairclarkb: (i feel like adding another race condition to fix a race condition isn't going to make us any happier)15:49
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anteayatalking about buttons15:49
anteayacan we get an easier to discover button for signing up/logging into the foundation website?15:50
clarkbjeblair: the way around the race is to set the node offline first, then check if it is idle. I just realized this. I can update the patch if you think making it correct is useful15:50
anteayawho do I talk to about this button?15:50
sdaguedansmith: you have a failing run on postgresql that you can point me at logs?15:50
dansmithhttp://logs.openstack.org/11/38211/3/check/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-postgres-full/34823/console.html.gz15:51
dansmithI'm doing a full tempest run locally to see if it's a symptom of residue or something15:51
dansmithbut running that test alone or with the rest of its class doesn't poke it for me15:51
jeblairclarkb: i still feel like we should just fix the bug in the system we have, which is supposed to prevent this.15:51
ttxsdague: I'm a bit disconnected from reality while at OSCON -- what's the situation on the Neutron testsuite re-enablement ?15:51
dansmithI'm sure it's related to my change, I just need to add some stuff to figure out why and need to be able to repro it of course15:51
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Swap the order of configparser imports  https://review.openstack.org/3865315:51
clarkbjeblair: ok, I will work on detecting jenkins node state and handling that properly15:53
clarkbttx: nachi thought he had a fix, but once the fix was subjected to the rigors of the gate it wasn't reliable15:53
clarkbttx: so we are still not voting on that test15:53
ttxclarkb: ok. didn't know the fix was not enough[tm]15:53
jeblairclarkb: also think about it this way -- it's always an error to attempt to delete a node running a job; that's not something we want to mask (in this case it's benign, but in other cases (running a test twice on a node) it's not)15:54
ttxclarkb: why aren't you with us ? HP being cheap on Seatlle-PDX shuttle tickets or what15:54
clarkbttx: looking at the most recent several hours of logstash data I have the neutron test failed ~40% of the time in the gate queue15:55
jeblairi need to run; i have just rolled out of bed, worked 1.5 hours and not done any of the things one does in the morning, including eating.15:55
clarkbttx: I have driven a couple thousand miles this month and didn't want to do more. And I don't think they would've given me admission15:55
ttxclarkb: so close and yet so far :)15:56
annegentlettx: ping if you've got a sec15:56
ttxannegentle: need to go to plenary room, should be back soon if wifi is not busted15:56
ttxbrb15:57
annegentlettx: ok good luck15:57
mordredsdague: also, re: ssh tests of nodes in tempest not working - do you know what the issue is and is it something easy to describe to someone so that they might work on it?15:57
sdaguettx: on the neutron tests, last time I looked we were still seeing the race15:58
* mordred agrees with anteaya about foundation login button/link15:58
sdaguenatchi now thinks it's a timeout issue, so there is proposed tempest fix to bump the timeout15:58
sdaguewe'll see if that makes it better15:58
sdaguemordred: on the ssh tests, I think the crux of it is the ssh success detection isn't good15:58
pabelangerany infra-core mind approving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37689/ ?15:58
clarkbsdague: it is. logstash indicates a ~40% failure rate in the gate (which is much much higher than our typical breakage)15:59
clarkbpabelanger: done. I am guessing jeblair didn't do it because traveling + OSCON15:59
mordredsdague: ah, as in it's tough to know if the ssh command to the node was actually good?15:59
sdagueso a more reliable way of testing success on ssh is probably all that's need. I think right now it's looking for cirros log in text, shuold instead run some basic comment15:59
sdaguemordred: right15:59
sdagueand I think the check bit rotted16:00
pabelangerclarkb: np, thanks16:00
sdaguebecause the tests were off16:00
mordredyeah. they all fail at this point16:00
pabelangeradding some asterisk patchsets now :)16:00
mordredbut you expect that the setup should be there in as much as users/keys should be done properly16:00
ttxannegentle: back16:00
ttxso far16:00
sdaguemordred: there may be some subtlety in getting paramiko to deal with something too16:00
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add sshkey for pabelanger  https://review.openstack.org/3768916:01
mordredmmm. my favorite16:01
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sdagueI'll be honest, last time I looked in detail the ssh actually was working, but the check it was running to know if it worked was bad16:01
clarkbmordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38647/ failed16:01
sdagueand I haven't looked deeper16:01
* mordred shoots self in face16:02
clarkbmordred: don't do that, we need you to fix it :)16:02
mordredjesus16:02
mordredhttps://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.9.8.tar.gz#md5=243076241781935f7fcad370195a429116:02
mordredis a 40416:02
mordreddstufft: ^^^16:03
mordreddstufft: danger will robinson16:03
mordred0.9.7 is there16:04
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dstufftmordred: try now16:07
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Swap the order of configparser imports  https://review.openstack.org/3865316:07
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Install jeepyb and requirements from REPODIR  https://review.openstack.org/3818416:07
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Stop trying to install setuptools<0.7  https://review.openstack.org/3864716:07
mordreddstufft: yay!16:07
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Added OpenStack docs jobs for Trove.  https://review.openstack.org/3819116:07
dstufftmordred: the Fastly Purge Status API (which tells us if a purge completed or not) is down right now (or was yesterday) so I had to remove the status checks temporarily16:08
dstufftso some purges might not happen successfully :/16:08
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Swap the order of configparser imports  https://review.openstack.org/3865316:08
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Install jeepyb and requirements from REPODIR  https://review.openstack.org/3818416:08
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Stop trying to install setuptools<0.7  https://review.openstack.org/3864716:08
mordreddstufft: loverly16:08
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ttxannegentle: I have high lag but I can probably try to talk16:10
clarkbhow logstash feels this week http://memedad.com/meme/19065 but elasticsearch hasn't crashed yet so progress!16:10
zaroclarkb: in jjb, is it possible to wrap multiple job groups from one job-group?16:10
clarkbzaro: I don't think so16:11
clarkbI am trying to remember how job-groups expand and I think they are not recursive16:11
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mordreddstufft: also, amusingly, there are no things that match 'setuptools<0.7' for pip 1.416:12
mordreddstufft: because, you know, they all had letters16:12
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Use the new oslo.sphinx library for the doc theme  https://review.openstack.org/3587416:12
dstufftmordred: yea lol16:12
mordredclarkb: have I mentioned that I think a neat thing to track/report/graph would be number of gate failures for things that passed in check queue16:14
mordredclarkb: and which percentage of those were things kicked out for merge errors16:14
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clarkbkeeping track of merge failures would definitely be interesting16:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add an option for the buildChooser  https://review.openstack.org/3689316:15
clarkbmordred: still around?16:19
mordredclarkb: yup16:19
clarkbmordred: opinions on logging more IRC channels? Do we just want to approve those puppet changes or do we need to get some additional level of approval16:19
jeblairclarkb: i haven't looked at specific changes but i think we should require the approval of the relevant ptl16:21
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mordredthat seems reasonable to me16:21
clarkbwfm16:21
clarkbsdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38152/16:21
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Document volume maintenance on static  https://review.openstack.org/3758916:22
* jeblair goes to get breakfast and then to the convention center16:22
clarkbhave fun16:23
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clarkbpabelanger: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38189/ if you think I shouldn't approve based on your +1 just let me know16:24
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Support sip:conference@pbx.openstack.org  https://review.openstack.org/3818916:26
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: run bitrot jobs after pypi mirror update  https://review.openstack.org/3866316:28
pabelangerclarkb: sounds good16:29
dansmithsdague: so, in that log link I sent,16:35
dansmithsdague: the tempest console logs go many minutes longer than the compute and api logs...16:35
clarkb_TheDodd_: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36886/ I have a feeling that one jeblair and fungi have a chance to review it they will be happy with it16:35
clarkb_TheDodd_: hopefully sometime early next week. I also think that this is the sort of change we probably want to announce to the openstack-dev mailing list. Do you want to draft a short announcement in an etherpad?16:36
clarkb_TheDodd_: then when we merge 36886 you can send that out16:36
_TheDodd_clarkb: I would be happy to.16:40
_TheDodd_clarkb: Hopefully I will be able to get around to it tomorrow.16:41
clarkb_TheDodd_: no rush. jeblair and fungi are at OSCON so I don't expect their reviews until next week16:41
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clarkbRyan_Lane: for the wiki fixing16:42
clarkbRyan_Lane: sounds like you have already fixed the problem \o/ any chance you can share a screen session later today and show me what you have done? If you are at OSCON and that is just clunky maybe we can do something like that next week16:43
clarkbRyan_Lane: I just feel fairly useless when it comes to the wiki and think that should change16:43
_TheDodd_clarkb: What do you think would be most beneficial for me to mention in the etherpad? I will go ahead and reference this file ( https://etherpad.openstack.org/drive-automation-from-commitmsg ) so that everyone knows that we are pushing for header style bug references, etc.16:43
clarkb_TheDodd_: I am thinking that a description of the new workflow support would be good16:44
_TheDodd_Great.16:44
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clarkbok now I really need to AFK for a bit so that I can make my way to the office16:47
Ryan_Laneclarkb: I'm not as OSCON, but I can definitely share a screen session with you16:47
Ryan_Lanethe problem was with the skin. I need to upstream a change16:47
Ryan_Lanethe skin doesn't handle openid login links properly16:47
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add reload support to Asterisk  https://review.openstack.org/3866517:09
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Swap the order of configparser imports  https://review.openstack.org/3865317:09
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Install jeepyb and requirements from REPODIR  https://review.openstack.org/3818417:09
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Stop trying to install old pip and setuptools  https://review.openstack.org/3864717:09
* mordred cries17:09
clarkbmordred: more trouble?17:09
clarkbalso I am only halfway through my semi AFK. So many distractions17:09
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mordredclarkb: yup.17:14
clarkbok back to AFK almost done17:15
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Invert modules.conf logic  https://review.openstack.org/3866717:24
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add reload support to Asterisk  https://review.openstack.org/3866517:28
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add progress and estimated completion times to zuul status  https://review.openstack.org/3859817:34
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add reload support to Asterisk  https://review.openstack.org/3866517:40
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jeblairi will create a new docs-draft now and start an rsync17:42
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fungithat sounds safest17:46
clarkbjeblair: did it break again? I just got to my desk17:48
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jeblairclarkb: no; this is the next steps i outlined earlier17:50
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jeblairclarkb: basically i don't trust the filesystem at this point; it was behaving too weirdly.17:51
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clarkbok17:51
jeblairclarkb: (2 fsck's in a row on an unmounted fs fixed errors.  3rd one was okay, but still)17:51
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clarkbI am writing the d-g change to double check jenkins and d-g state beofre erroring now17:52
jeblairi have an rsync running now.  if there _is_ a problem with the current filesystem, that rsync may trigger an error, so we should be alert for that.17:52
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jeblairclarkb: cool, thanks17:53
pabelangersip:conference@openstack.org seems to be working now that I reload the dialplan17:53
jeblairclarkb: (also, increasing the job timeout is another quick thing we can do to mitigate that if we want to increase the pool again)17:53
clarkbjeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38400/ increases the timeout if you want to do that17:53
clarkbI -1'd it because I wanted your opinion on it17:54
clarkbI think we are ok at 45 node right now17:54
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pabelangerrussellb: already getting scanned on pbx.openstack.org17:55
pabelangermaybe should do fail2ban or something17:55
pabelangeror changing the default SIP port will help too17:55
pabelangersince we are doing SIP URI dialing17:55
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pabelangerwe can just update the DNS SRV records17:56
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fungipabelanger: just give me a heads up if you want that changed, though it will probably require another trouble ticket with rackspace to change the second one18:05
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zaroclarkb: the gearman-plugin is no longer listed on the jenkins plugin manager.  it might be because of how we released ver 0.0.3.18:07
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zaroclarkb: can you make a release of the zmq plugin to see if it will appear?18:08
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clarkbzaro: ya I can do that later today18:10
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Handle Jenkins node already being added to Jenkins  https://review.openstack.org/3867418:15
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clarkbjeblair: ^ I think that should do it18:16
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jeblairi see one unstable docs job, but the filesystem, block devices and server seem okay18:31
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jeblairi am assuming it's a jenkins scp plugin fluke for now18:31
jeblair(possibly it timed out because of the additional load on the fs from the rsync)18:32
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jeblairclarkb: i am at a talk by james turnbull on logstash18:32
jeblair(but am sadly missing pleia2's talk)18:33
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dhellmannjd__: I left a +2 on mordred's change to the pbr tests; I think that's what's breaking things for both of us?18:33
jd__dhellmann: I think he fast approved the one needed18:34
dhellmannoh, not https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38647/?18:34
jd__dhellmann: this one, but he did fast approved before you +218:35
jd__Look at 6:11 PM18:35
mordreddhellmann: yes18:35
jd__now I keep having http://logs.openstack.org/40/38540/1/check/gate-pbr-devstack-vm-rawinstall/297/console.html18:35
mordredand thank you18:35
jd__dunnow why18:35
mordredwhile you're at it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38653/18:35
jd__too soon recheck?18:36
mordredyeah. it hasn't landed yet. there was another thing18:36
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dhellmannjd__, mordred : ah, it wasn't approved when I got there :-)18:36
jeblairturnbull: "anyone here who works for a distro please choose an an init system; i'm getting sick of it"  :)18:37
mordredjeblair: :)18:37
dhellmannmordred: your commit messages are like something out of lewis carroll18:37
jeblair"actual actual lifecycle of a log: record -> delete"18:38
clarkbjeblair: learn all the logstash things18:38
* clarkb just had an idea18:39
clarkbwe should do "internal" learn the system things. Ryan_Lane can show us the wiki, I can show logstash, jeblair can do d-g and so on18:39
clarkband use that to try and keep the team up to date on the broad list of things and be focused on the team and not external conference audiences. Kind of like refining the bootcamp topics18:40
annegentlejeblair: ping18:40
jeblairannegentle: pong but i'm supposed to be paying attention to a conference talk :(18:41
clarkbannegentle: I am happy to help if this isn't something that requires jeblair18:41
annegentlejeblair: ok no worries just wanted to see how it went with Todd re:repos18:41
clarkb(I secretly want him to become a logstash ninja)18:41
annegentlejeblair: holler when you can chat18:42
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jeblairannegentle: short version; went well, expecting progress by next week18:42
clarkbsdague: got a minute to talk about the number of tempest check tests? specifically can we stop running neutron full if the non full job doesn't even pass?18:42
clarkbsdague: or vice versa, put the effort into making the full job pass and forget the non full job18:42
clarkbsdague: I mean changes to neutron itself don't even trigger the full neutron job...18:43
clarkbsdague: the other one I wanted to talk about was the cells job. I am tempted to make that nova only until it is passing at least smoketests18:45
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: change date link to something more understandable  https://review.openstack.org/3868018:45
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sdagueclarkb: I thought neutron ran both?18:46
sdagueclarkb: so neutron full is probably a long way from getting fixed18:47
clarkbsdague: tempest and nova run both neutron jobs, neutron does not18:48
sdaguereally?18:48
clarkbreally18:48
sdaguehmph18:48
clarkbhttps://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml#L741-L75418:48
sdagueok, so we should change that18:48
clarkbmaybe we make neutron and tempest run both and remove it from nova?18:48
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sdagueno, nova needs to run both as well18:48
sdaguebecause most of the fixes are actually on the nova side18:49
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clarkbok18:49
sdaguethe fails are all basically interactions between nova and neutron18:49
sdagueI think restricting cells to nova, devstack, and tempest is fine18:50
sdaguethose are the projects that will need changes to make it work, as far as I know18:50
sdaguethough I thought alaski said he was working on it18:50
clarkbsdague: he said possibly late this week18:50
sdaguewell, it's thursday :)18:50
sdaguethat's pretty late18:50
clarkbI bring this up because some of the pain with testng right now is d-g resource related, we think we have a fix lined up but until then the use of 7 d-g slaves per patchset is pretty painful particularly if we aren't get useful testing out of it18:51
clarkbso trying to clean up where possible (if the tests are needed we should keep them, just checking that we actually need to be running a test 500 times a day that we know will fail)18:52
alaskiI'm currently sidetracked at the moment, though I have started looking into cells failures.18:53
alaskiIf it's causing issues I say turn it off for now18:53
sdagueclarkb: if cells gets restricted to nova, devstack, and tempest, is that helpful?18:55
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sdaguebecause my guess is 95% of the required fixes will be in those 3 projects, so that should let cells make progress, but reduce d-g usage18:55
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clarkba little, but probably not worth it is nova is the majority of the test load. I think we will be ok, just wanted to double check that cleanup wasn't necessary (the neutron stuff bothered me more because it is inconsistent and hasn't passed for much much longer)18:56
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sdagueclarkb: so once this merges - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38513/, it might be the root issue on the neutron smoke side18:57
clarkbcool, I will keep an eye on it18:58
jeblairclarkb: what's our logstash processing rate?19:00
clarkbjeblair: ~5k events per second19:00
clarkbjeblair: and the bottleneck appears to be in logstash filtering19:01
jeblairapparently very large sites process millions of events/sec.  but i don't have an idea of what kind of resources are behind that19:02
clarkbI think it probably helps a lot to put the filtering on the same node as the service19:02
clarkbwhich is something that jenkins slaves make tricky for us19:03
dkranzclarkb: The changes to add #openstack-qa and #savanna to irc logging are both pending.19:03
dkranzclarkb: I didn't understand how to do what you suggested in the review comment so perhaps you could just push one through19:03
dkranzclarkb: The other can then resubmit?19:03
clarkbdkranz: you can rebase one of the changes on the other, eg git review -d 37945 && git review -d 38152 && git rebase branch_for_3794519:04
clarkbdkranz: they don't have to be merged to do that, just create a normal gerrit dependency. Or we can approve one and let the other sort it out19:05
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clarkbdkranz: I was also hoping that sdague would give his +1 to the qa logging19:05
HenryGdtroyer: ping19:05
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ekarlso-anyone here wanna help me understand why http://logs.openstack.org/79/38679/1/check/gate-billingstack-python26/120/console.html.gz fails ?19:05
dkranzclarkb: He did in IRC but I can ask him to put it in the ticket if you prefer.19:06
clarkbekarlso-: ya, its a missing dependency that was masked by older versions of testrepository. Add 'discover' to your test-requirements19:06
clarkbdkranz: a +1 in the review would be awesome19:06
ekarlso-oh19:06
sdagueclarkb: done19:09
sdagueclarkb: also one more round of changes on the htmlifier out there, which I think is about where I'm good before we live it19:10
clarkbsdague: dkranz logging inbound19:10
clarkbsdague: will review19:11
sdaguemostly because my fun jquery stuff on the front to make all the debug lines disappear is going to have to wait, as getting testr functioning in the tempest gate really needs attension19:11
clarkb++19:11
clarkbtestr in the gate is going to be baller19:12
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sdagueyeh, so we're probably going to need some help to get to the bottom of things19:12
sdaguethere are at least 6 races right now19:12
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sdagueso, d-g forces ceilo on?19:19
russellbpabelanger: let's start with fail2ban, IMO19:19
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russellbfungi: you mentioned changing the SRV records, i don't see them, should they be there?  $ dig -t SRV _sip._udp openstack.org19:20
dhellmannsdague: what's the deal with the keystone client issue? are you still waiting on us to do something with ceilometer?19:20
pabelangerrussellb, ya, testing it out now locally19:21
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russellbpabelanger: cool ... we documented it in ATDG, but need to make sure all the patterns are still current19:21
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clarkbsdague: yes iirc19:22
sdaguedhellmann: yes, there is a unit test fail to land that19:22
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pabelangerrussellb, ya, I'm more concerned with the default filters that ship with the fail2ban package right now19:23
pabelangerbut will check it out19:23
dhellmannsdague: can you point me at a review or something?19:23
sdaguedhellmann: I did bring it up on the ceilo meeting today, jd__ said he'd look at it19:23
sdaguebut more eyes good19:23
russellbpabelanger: oh didn't know it included asterisk support19:23
dhellmannsdague: ok, if he's on it that's fine19:23
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/36905/19:23
sdaguedhellmann: I don't know if he did19:23
pabelangerstill waiting for leifmadsen to drop of the book at my place, like he said the last time he was in town19:23
dhellmannI saw something in the backlog about it earlier, but didn't have a chance to look into it19:23
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pabelangerrussellb, it doesn't just other apps19:23
sdagueclarkb: ok, so we should probably try to sync the d-g defaults back to devstack19:24
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dhellmannsdague: after we have this fixed, I would like to prioritize a gate test using that nova plugin we have19:24
sdaguedhellmann: sure19:24
sdague1.0.2 is where you guys uncapped, right?19:25
jd__dhellmann: sdague: if that can't wait Monday, go ahead, I won't do that before then19:26
dhellmannjd__: OK19:26
dhellmannsdague: someone else did that so I'd have to check19:26
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack/requirements: update global requires on clients for keystone fix  https://review.openstack.org/3868619:28
sdagueman, one day I'll stop chasing this requirements thread....19:28
sdaguecurrently preventing me from installing devstack19:29
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dansmithis grenade borken?19:38
sdagueyes19:38
sdaguesorry, no19:38
sdaguewrong window19:39
sdaguedansmith: you got a link to a fail?19:39
dansmithnot yet, I just see at least one of mine is failing on grenade and I don't think there's any way it could19:40
sdagueany config changes?19:40
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sdaguewe're gating on grenade everywhere19:40
dansmithnope, no config changes19:40
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dansmithand one of the ones after it passes grenade19:41
dansmithsee 3636319:41
sdaguewell, there is always the possibility of a race19:41
sdaguethat we didn't find19:41
Ryan_Laneclarkb: I'm also interested in learning logstash19:41
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Ryan_LaneI'd like to use it at wikimedia19:41
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dansmithyeah, all my review numbers are palindromes, cause I'm awesome19:41
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clarkbdansmith: I need that skill19:43
clarkbRyan_Lane: we are using it for our test logs, and it seems to be stable now. Current issue is it can't keep up with the load19:43
dansmithclarkb: :P19:43
sdagueyeh, but it means you can mess with him a lot by making things one off19:43
Ryan_Laneheh. that's what I worry about19:44
Ryan_Lanebecause we have about 1000 systems and about 400 instances and we want to send all syslog data to it19:45
clarkbRyan_Lane: and in our case it seems to be related to the weird way we squeeze everything through a funnel19:45
clarkbRyan_Lane: if you can distribute the work load to as near the log source as possible you should be fine19:45
clarkbRyan_Lane: we don't trust our jenkins slaves so we don't have that luxury19:45
sdaguedansmith: looks like a more fundamental fail - https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-grenade-devstack-vm/21225/console19:45
* Ryan_Lane nods19:45
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dansmithsdague: ah19:46
clarkbRyan_Lane: also it does a good job of scaling horizontally so throwing hardware at the problem is a possibility19:46
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Ryan_Laneyep19:46
sdagueclarkb: any ideas about that last link19:46
clarkbsdague: looking19:46
Ryan_Lanewe're going to have an elastic search cluster anyway, so I may be able to reuse it for this as well19:46
clarkbsdague: ya one sec19:47
clarkbsdague: dansmith https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1204625 is the bug19:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1204625 in openstack-ci "Devstack gate launch jobs timeout confusing Jenkins and devstack gate" [High,Triaged]19:47
clarkbsdague: dansmith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38400/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38674/ are two potential things that will mitigate it, but I really wanted jeblair to weight in on those changes before I approve anything19:48
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clarkbsdague: dansmith: the tl;dr is that jenkins and devstack-gate get out of sync because some of the d-g jobs timeout19:48
dansmithokay19:48
clarkband that causes weirdness19:48
maurosreasy review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38688/ porting this fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30057/ to api-v3 fixed-ips19:49
clarkbsdague: if you want to review 38674 that would be helpful19:49
maurosrops19:49
maurosrsorry, wrong channel19:49
Ryan_Laneok. redeployed the updated wiki skin with a live hack for the login link19:50
sdagueclarkb: looking19:50
Ryan_LaneI'd generally not do so, but the old skin has an XSS vulnerability19:50
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clarkbRyan_Lane: want to fire up a screen on wiki.o.o that I can screen -x to?19:51
Ryan_LaneI always forget how to do this19:51
Ryan_LaneI have a screen session running on it19:51
Ryan_Laneif you're also root, you can just screen -x, right?19:51
clarkbRyan_Lane: if you have a screen running I should be able to just attach to it. yup19:51
sdagueclarkb: no additional typing or fields in those jenkins exceptions?19:52
clarkbsdague: no :(19:52
sdaguethen seems fine to me19:52
clarkbsdague: you can see the exception in myjenkins.py19:52
clarkbRyan_Lane: I am attached19:52
Ryan_Laneok19:52
Ryan_LaneI'll give you a walkthrough19:52
clarkbawesome19:52
dansmithman I really need to write a recheck-all script or something, because ten patches needing rechecks sucks :/19:52
Ryan_Lane mediawiki is installed under /srv/mediawiki19:52
Ryan_LaneI have two versions always there, under slot0 and slot119:52
Ryan_Laneslot0 is currently running19:53
clarkbRyan_Lane: how can you tell which one is running?19:53
clarkbw symlink>19:53
Ryan_Lanethe apache alias is for /srv/mediawiki/w19:53
clarkbgot it19:53
Ryan_LaneI use the wikimedia foundation deployment branches19:54
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Ryan_Laneit's abnormal, but there's a reason for it19:54
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Ryan_Laneif you notice, that branch has a large number of extension submodules19:54
Ryan_Laneall wikimedia foundation extensions that are deployed to wikimedia sites are there19:54
Ryan_Lanethey are known to work with this version of mediawiki19:55
Ryan_Lanewe have 5 extensions that don't come from wikimedia19:55
clarkbdansmith: there is a tool like that in zuul/tools/* iirc19:55
clarkbRyan_Lane: I see them19:55
openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update yaml file to add new OpenStack End User Guide  https://review.openstack.org/3869419:55
Ryan_Laneextensions/EmbedVideo/ extensions/OpenID/ extensions/ReplaceText/ extensions/googleAnalytics/ skins/strapping/19:55
Ryan_LaneOpenID will soon also be deployed on wikimedia sites19:55
Ryan_Laneand that'll be one less we have to manage manually19:56
dansmithclarkb: oh, nice19:56
Ryan_Laneso that we can easily switch between versions, I move some things outside of the mediawiki path19:56
Ryan_Laneimages and Settings.php19:56
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Ryan_LaneLocalSettings.php has been modified to require the shared Settings.php19:57
clarkband that allows you to not need to configure the two slots independently19:57
Ryan_Laneyep19:57
Ryan_Laneand /w/images is an alias in apache pointing at /srv/mediawiki/images19:58
sarobanyone up for reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38502/19:58
Ryan_Lanehow to upgrade:19:58
Ryan_Lane1. figure out which slot is being used, prepare to upgrade the other one19:58
sarobits holding up publishing some content I need for a meetup tonight19:59
clarkbsarob: I can review when Ryan_Lane is done giving me the howto19:59
Ryan_Lanedon't ever use /srv/mediawiki/w, always use the slot (otherwise git will fuck things up)19:59
sarobokay, thanks!19:59
clarkbRyan_Lane: good to know19:59
Ryan_Laneit sets submodule config paths to the directory you are in19:59
Ryan_Laneso it'll reference w, which will cause problems later20:00
Ryan_Lane2: fetch the changes via git fetch20:01
Ryan_Lane3: find the newest wmf branch20:01
Ryan_Lane4: create a local branch that tracks the newest remote branch20:02
Ryan_Lanefunny enough, there's already a newer branch20:02
Ryan_Lanewe could upgrade again right now. let me see if this is already deployed on wikimedia20:02
clarkbyou guys go fast20:02
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Ryan_Lanewe do weekly major upgrades20:03
Ryan_Lanehttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version <--20:03
Ryan_Lanerunning this new branch20:03
Ryan_Lanemediawiki.org always gets deployed to first20:03
Ryan_Laneit's lesser used and lets devs eat their dogfood20:03
Ryan_Laneso, let's actually do an upgrade20:04
clarkb++20:04
Ryan_Lane5: checkout the new branch20:04
Ryan_Lane6: update submodules: git submodule update —init20:04
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clarkbdo you typically want to wait for the new version to be deployed on mediawiki.org before upgrading wiki.o.o?20:06
Ryan_Laneyes. always :)20:06
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Ryan_Laneotherwise they may not be ready to actually deploy it20:06
Ryan_Laneor may rollback because of something being broken20:06
clarkbI see20:07
Ryan_Lanea major downside to using the wmf branches is that they don't backport security fixes20:07
Ryan_Laneyou have to upgrade20:07
Ryan_Lanethe good thing is that we're using almost nothing bug wikimedia code and that will just work with upgrades20:07
Ryan_Lanes/bug/but/20:07
* Ryan_Lane yawns20:09
clarkbis the alternative to the wmf branches using "stable" releases and hoping that the plugins all work?20:10
Ryan_Laneyes20:10
Ryan_Lanewhich sucks20:10
Ryan_Laneextension management has always been the worst part of using MW20:10
Ryan_Lanethere's some movement to fix that, but I'll believe it when I see it20:10
clarkbthis seems like a reasonable solution even if it does mean we sit and wait for all of the submodules to update :)20:11
Ryan_Laneif we keep these more up to date more often this takes less time20:11
Ryan_Lanewe could actually run a cron with: git fetch && git submodule fetch20:12
Ryan_Laneand this would take basically no time20:12
clarkbRyan_Lane: ++20:12
clarkball done20:12
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Ryan_Laneok...20:13
Ryan_Lanewikimedia occasionally deprecates extensions20:13
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Ryan_Laneif we are using them, we should stop. if we aren't using them, we just delete them20:13
fungirussellb: did anyone get back to you on the srv rrs? your dig command was missing a .20:13
fungirussellb: dig -t SRV _sip._udp.openstack.org20:14
russellboh, oops20:14
Ryan_Lanethe other slot has a live-hacked strapping skin20:14
Ryan_Laneso I ensured it's copied20:14
russellbthanks.  d'oh20:14
fungirussellb: also the _tcp version is there as well20:14
Ryan_Laneotherwise I'd just do a git pull20:14
russellbfungi: yep see it now :-)20:14
fungino worries20:14
* fungi goes back to being all conferency20:15
clarkbRyan_Lane: so you track master with strapping?20:15
clarkbRyan_Lane: and the other extensions looks like. got it20:15
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Ryan_Lanewell....20:15
Ryan_LaneI had pulled in some security fixes for opend20:15
Ryan_Lane*openid20:15
Ryan_Lanethey are in master now20:16
clarkbRyan_Lane: and they are causing the merge conflict?20:16
Ryan_LaneI had cherry-picked them when they weren't yet merged20:16
clarkbso a git reset --hard origin/master is needed?20:16
* Ryan_Lane has early access20:16
Ryan_Lanethey had been modified before being merged20:16
Ryan_Laneso the changes conflicted20:16
Ryan_LaneI knew that was the case because I had done it20:17
Ryan_Laneit would be good to have a place to document these things20:17
clarkbRyan_Lane: perhaps at /srv/mediawiki/NOTES? or /root/NOTES?20:17
Ryan_Laneyeah, that'll work20:17
Ryan_Laneextension authors for mediawiki usually try to ensure backwards compatibility20:18
Ryan_Laneand master is meant to be usable20:18
Ryan_Laneso doing a git pull on the other extensions is usually fine20:18
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Ryan_Laneok. now all of them are updated20:19
Ryan_Lanelet me write a quick script that we should puppetize20:19
Ryan_Lanethe backup script using /srv/mediawiki/w is fine, since it doesn't do anything with git20:21
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clarkbRyan_Lane: my paranoia wonders if the script will be runnable from a web browser20:21
Ryan_Laneand we want to reference the running version of MW20:21
Ryan_Lanenope20:21
Ryan_Lanewe alias w and images directly20:22
Ryan_Lane /srv/mediawiki is not accessible20:22
clarkbok20:22
* Ryan_Lane always aliases things in and hates modifying doc roots20:22
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clarkbcool I see that in the vhost20:23
Ryan_Laneok… so, now to backup20:23
Ryan_Lanethere could be schema upgrades with the upgrade, so we want to ensure we have a current backup20:23
Ryan_Laneschema upgrades are backwards compatible20:23
Ryan_Lanebut it's still a good idea :)20:24
openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update yaml file to add new OpenStack End User Guide  https://review.openstack.org/3869420:27
clarkbRyan_Lane: are we at a point where we can change the symlink? do we have to stop apache before doing that?20:27
Ryan_Laneone sec. talking to EFF20:28
clarkbnp20:28
clarkbbrb20:29
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clarkbback20:32
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clarkbsarob: I reviewed that change. There is one tiny nit pick I would like to see cleaned up, I can approve it once that is done20:35
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Ryan_Lanesorry. in person EFF ambush20:36
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clarkbsarob: let me know if you can't make that change because you are at a conference or something. I can clean it up and push it through20:38
clarkbRyan_Lane: no problem20:38
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fungiRyan_Lane: that's one of the coolest excuses ever20:42
Ryan_Lane:D20:42
* fungi wants to get ambushed by the eff sometimwe20:42
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clarkbfungi: can you review sarob's change too?20:42
lifelesssdake: mordred: I accept regular patches, no need for bzr.20:42
Ryan_Lanethem: "Hi. When is https by default for all wikipedia users happening?"20:42
sdagueclarkb: badness?20:42
clarkbfungi: its fine if not, just a new jenkins job20:42
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/38691/20:42
Ryan_Laneme: "NIce to meet you too."20:42
openstackgerritcolinmcnamara proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update CI systems to validate and publish section openstack-training  https://review.openstack.org/3850220:42
clarkboh colinmcnamara addressed my comment \o/20:43
fungiclarkb: listening to frencil from sparkfun talk about open hardware, but can multi-task for a bit20:43
clarkbsdague: that looks like the same bug dansmith ran into :/20:43
sdagueclarkb: ok, wonder what's making it worse today20:44
clarkbsdague: the key bit is the inprogress job failing at the beginning of the console outputs20:44
fungiRyan_Lane: ha. that's classic20:44
clarkbsdague: its related to test load, more tests = less d-g slaves = higher chance of d-g launch jobs timing out20:44
sdagueright, fair20:44
clarkbRyan_Lane: ready to go when you are even if it looks like I am busy multitasking :)20:44
Ryan_Lanemaybe 10 mins20:44
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openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Removes the cap for SQLAlchemy  https://review.openstack.org/3803520:46
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sdaguelifeless: working on and reworking patches outside of an scm it really manual. I'd rather just keep subunit2html over in gerrit if it means loosing git to work on it to move it elsewhere.20:49
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clarkbsdague: jeblair just approved my change that should hopefully make d-g nodes happier20:51
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clarkbhopefully the gate clears up long enough for it to get through (there have been issues with some of the tests in there not related to the derpyness we are seeing20:51
sdagueclarkb: awesome20:51
clarkbif necessary I can shove it in with extra force20:51
sdagued-g kick to the groin!20:52
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Ryan_Laneclarkb: ok. ready to keep going20:52
clarkbRyan_Lane: I am ready20:53
Ryan_Laneok20:53
Ryan_Laneso, after doing a backup, it's necessary to run mediawiki's update script20:53
Ryan_Laneyou run it before you switch the software over20:53
Ryan_Lanesince the old software will work with the new schema20:53
Ryan_Lane(I wish OpenStack worked like this ;) )20:53
clarkbRyan_Lane: can you document that php command here in the channel?20:54
Ryan_Laneso, notice: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Special:Version20:54
Ryan_Lanesure.20:54
clarkb(the channel is logged)20:54
Ryan_Laneit's php maintenance/update.php --quick20:54
clarkbrun within the slot you are upgrading20:54
Ryan_Lanefrom inside of the slot you are upgrading20:54
Ryan_Laneindeed20:54
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Ryan_Lanenote that the wiki is still up and it running the older version20:54
clarkbyup20:55
Ryan_Lanethen you just switch the link20:55
Ryan_Laneand check https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Special:Version again20:55
Ryan_Lanenew version is running. no downtime20:55
clarkbnice, so restarting apache is not necessary?20:56
Ryan_Lanenope20:56
Ryan_Lanebecause we just switch the link20:56
Ryan_Laneand the link is the alias20:56
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Ryan_Laneassuming you don't make any live hacks or pull in pre-merge security fixes, upgrading is very straightforward20:57
clarkbperfect, I feel like I have a much better grasp of this now. Though if something goes wrong I think my abilities to debug and correct are still minimal but this is a start20:57
Ryan_Lanegreat20:58
Ryan_Lanethere's a few things that should get puppetized20:58
Ryan_LaneI should open bugs20:58
clarkb++20:58
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Increase d-g launch timeout to 20 min  https://review.openstack.org/3870120:58
Ryan_Lanewe should have backups running in a cron20:58
clarkbRyan_Lane: dtroyer just mentioned that he noticed much larger margins after yesterdays upgrade20:59
Ryan_Laneand we should puppetize the wiki config20:59
Ryan_Lanemargins?20:59
jeblairclarkb: gah you already have a patch for that don't you?20:59
clarkbRyan_Lane: page margins I guess so skin related maybe?20:59
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clarkbjeblair: I do but I only did 15 minutes. we can useyours20:59
Ryan_Laneah, meaning the page content area is smaller?20:59
openstackgerritcolinmcnamara proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update CI systems to validate and publish section openstack-training  https://review.openstack.org/3850220:59
Ryan_Laneit's possible. I'm using an unpatched upstream version now. it's the same skin used by redhat for their openstack wiki21:00
clarkbRyan_Lane: that was how I grokked it21:00
clarkbRyan_Lane: I have detached from screen. feel free to close it anytime21:02
jeblairdocs-draft rsync is a 58% done21:02
Ryan_Lanecool21:02
clarkbRyan_Lane: and thank you for running me through that21:02
dtroyerRyan_Lane: right, the left and right margins are now together over 1/4 the page width21:02
Ryan_Laneclarkb: totally welcome21:02
Ryan_Lanedtroyer: hm. I'll need to take a look at the CSS to see why21:02
dtroyerRyan_Lane: ok, thanks.  my command tables are wrapping like crazy now… ;)21:03
Ryan_Laneheh21:03
Ryan_Laneoh wow. awesome.21:03
Ryan_LaneI forgot that this upgrade allows editing from mobile skin now21:04
dtroyerthat's a plus21:04
clarkbjeblair: fungi mordred I plan to go through the IRC logs from today and write up a ci.openstack.org doc on this process21:04
clarkbI figure hosting it not on the wiki is a good thing :)21:04
fungiclarkb: agreed. don't want a catch-22 outage to push me to read instructions through the wayback machine21:05
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clarkbfungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38701/ if you approve that I can babysit21:06
jeblairclarkb: thanks!21:07
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fungiclarkb: lgtm. approved21:11
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Ryan_Lanemobile editing doesn't work with openid21:12
Ryan_Laneso, yeah….21:12
clarkboh well I guess21:12
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Increase d-g launch timeout to 20 min  https://review.openstack.org/3870121:13
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Enable warnerrors for pbr to catch Sphinx warnings  https://review.openstack.org/3800621:17
clarkbjog0: why not make rootwrap a small !python thing?21:18
clarkbit might do weird things to dependencies I suppose21:18
jog0clarkb: I think that is an option21:18
jog0btw http://logs.openstack.org/17/36617/2/gate/gate-nova-python27/29976/console.html21:19
jog0nova unit tests are borking left and right21:19
clarkbyeah I think someone logged an issue again openstack-ci about it and I haven't had time to swing around and reassign it to nova21:19
jog0clarkb: I cannot reproduce locally at least not yet21:20
jog0haven't done a tox -r yet21:20
clarkbjog0: you can try grabbing the subunit log from one of the failed tests then `testr load $fileyoudownloaded && testr run --analyze-isolation`21:20
clarkbjog0: that will use the test partitions that were used when it failed.21:21
jog0hmm21:21
jog0just ran tox -r .... so will have to wait21:21
clarkband it will try to tell you which tests if any conflict with it21:21
clarkbjog0: ok, no rush21:21
clarkb(I would have to build a new nova dev env to do it myself so you are ahead of me)21:21
jog0clarkb: heh21:21
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openstackgerritcolinmcnamara proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update CI systems to validate and publish section openstack-training  https://review.openstack.org/3850221:22
clarkbjog0: the other thing I like to do is `testr run $test_name` a lot of tests fail when run on their own and if they do knowing that makes debugging eaiser21:22
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jog0yeah I tried that no luck21:22
jog0I hate it when things don't fail21:22
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jog0clarkb: I tried testr load and connot  reproduce21:29
clarkb:/21:29
fungiclarkb: jeblair: on https://review.openstack.org/38066 i guess the real problem is that jeepyb needs its setup.py updated to require a newer (non-broken) pbr?21:30
jog0' testr run --analyze-isolation ' did nothing21:30
jog0ohh I bet this is a python version thing21:30
jog0saw one earlier21:30
clarkbjog0: analyze-isolation should run off and run the test alone, if that passes it bisects the test list until it can find a minimal set of tests that when run together result in the failure. It is possible that it is non deterministic beyond just test order21:31
jog0clarkb: it ran nothig not sure why21:32
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clarkbjog0: did the testr load load anything?21:32
jog0clarkb: I think so21:33
clarkb--analyize-isolation runs based on the previous run. load is a way of changing out the previous run21:33
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jog0let me paste my terminal output21:33
clarkbfungi: thats possible. do we need to be less restrictive in the setup.py?21:34
jog0testr load says Ran tests in 37.906s  ; then PASSED21:34
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Update CI systems to validate and publish section openstack-training  https://review.openstack.org/3850221:34
jog0i did this inside the tox py27 venv21:34
clarkbjog0: it should say failed if the job failed. you grabbed http://logs.openstack.org/63/36363/17/check/gate-nova-python26/29748/subunit_log.txt.gz and gunzipped it?21:35
jog0anyway I gotta jet (boarding one soon)21:35
jog0I did http://logs.openstack.org/36/36436/5/check/gate-nova-python│21:35
jog0and gunzipped yeah21:35
jog0kk out for real21:35
fungiclarkb: mmm, no. the problem seems to be that relying on setup.py to install dependencies doesn't work when it runs with an older version of that dependency which prevents setup.py from running... chicken and egg problem21:36
clarkbfungi: so it isn't downloading the newer version because the one it already has is sufficient?21:36
clarkbwe can probably do a git clean to fix that21:36
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fungiclarkb: possibly, though i think it's more porobably that setup.py is throwing an exception due to the broken pbr before it gets far enough to upgrade pbr21:39
fungiyeesh, not enough internets21:39
clarkbfungi: yeah but by removing broken pbr first it should grab a new one21:40
clarkband hopefulyl bypass the brokeness21:40
fungiso change the jeepyb puppet module exec to pip uninstall pbr||true before running jeepyb's setup.py?21:41
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fungii know we can manually do that to break the deadlock, but not sure if i need to think about others who might also use this module (who aren't us), or other servers where we haven't noticed this is broken, or in the future if the same sort of issue reemerges21:44
clarkbfungi: yeah something like that may be necessary21:44
fungithe fact that jeepyb uses pbr before possibly upgrading pbr leaves it open to this sort of issue, in a way which may be particular to pbr21:46
clarkbyeah I think this is definitely a pbr type of problem, because it is required to bootstrap itself21:46
fungimaybe mordred has an opinion, if he's got an internet at the moment21:46
clarkbfungi: you should just hunt him down in the conference center :)21:47
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fungii will in fact see his talk in about an hour21:47
jeblairyes, let's beat on mordred because this is sposed to work imho21:47
fungiso i can merely abuse him with it then21:47
jeblair(if we have to do something yucky to fix this one deadlock case, ok, but we should avoid accepting this as a systemic problem)21:48
fungii agree21:48
clarkbjeblair: fungi: I intend on approving BobBall's meetbot change tomorrow when meetings are quiet21:50
jeblairclarkb: link?21:50
fungii should look it over then, if i haven't already21:50
clarkbjeblair: fungi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36825/21:51
jeblairclarkb: thx; was not watching meetbot repo21:51
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update yaml file to add new OpenStack End User Guide  https://review.openstack.org/3869421:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: Stop trying to install old pip and setuptools  https://review.openstack.org/3864721:56
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: Install jeepyb and requirements from REPODIR  https://review.openstack.org/3818421:56
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clarkbsdague: I reviewed your htmlifier change21:58
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: Swap the order of configparser imports  https://review.openstack.org/3865322:03
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Handle Jenkins node already being added to Jenkins  https://review.openstack.org/3867422:04
clarkb\o/ zuul is merging all the things22:04
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Report an unknown time if a change ahead has failed  https://review.openstack.org/3871522:05
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add missing projects to pre-cache list  https://review.openstack.org/3818022:06
clarkbjeblair: I think the recent zuul improvements are awesome btw. On the fly reconfigs, queue priority, kicking out potentially unmergable changes and so on22:07
clarkbdespite the ridiculous test load zuul itself seems to be cool and collected.22:07
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: change date link to something more understandable  https://review.openstack.org/3868022:07
sdagueclarkb: thanks22:07
sdaguecode review is so useful to prevent me from doing stupid things :)22:08
sdagueok, time to ride my bike home, see you guys tomorrow22:08
jeblairclarkb: thx; wait till you see the new status screen.  :)22:08
clarkbjeblair: are you going to draw the gate queue?22:09
lifelesssdague: so moving stuff to git is possible, need tuits22:10
jeblairclarkb: hehe, not yet.  :)  just this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38598/22:10
* clarkb is waiting for the next launch jobs to kick off now that the d-g chang merged22:10
* fungi has seen it, is excited22:10
clarkbjeblair: shiny22:10
lifelesssdague: doesn't git have a bzr translator though?22:10
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lifelessall that said though, subunit2html is an infra thing; I don't particularly care where it lives - there's no 'consolidate all users of libfoo into projectfoo' meme22:11
lifelessI have a bunch of generic filters in subunit but am enthusiastic for others to live whereever they want to22:12
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add progress and estimated completion times to zuul status  https://review.openstack.org/3859822:17
openstackgerritEvgeny Fadeev proposed a change to openstack-infra/askbot-theme: changed css for the language nav  https://review.openstack.org/3871722:18
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make it easier to get to the cacti graphs  https://review.openstack.org/3871822:19
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clarkbjeblair: comments on patchset two of 3859822:21
jeblairttx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law22:21
clarkbjeblair: whoops I accidentally approved that zuul change, I removed my +A so it won't actually merge22:24
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add progress and estimated completion times to zuul status  https://review.openstack.org/3859822:26
jeblairclarkb: thx22:26
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ttxjeblair: what about conway's law ?22:34
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jeblairttx: nothing in particular, just found it interesting.  :)22:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/askbot-theme: changed css for the language nav  https://review.openstack.org/3871722:42
clarkbjeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38507/1/tests/test_scheduler.py the reset back to head doesn't break anything because the fake change is referred to via a different ref?22:42
clarkb(in this case r)22:42
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Delay initialization of local repos  https://review.openstack.org/3850722:55
clarkbthe launch jobs haven't exploded since my patch went in. I think we are good22:55
jeblairclarkb: yeah, r points to the fake commit22:56
jeblairclarkb: then the 'hexsha' attr of that gets used later22:57
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lifelessso whats needed to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38543/ landed ?23:00
clarkblifeless: I want jeblair to review it23:04
clarkblifeless: if he is ok with it I can approve it23:04
clarkband do the babysitting and so on.23:04
clarkbjeblair: ^23:04
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jeblair clarkb, lifeless: the line above the find command is where we delete a list of files generated by this run of the mirror script23:11
jeblair clarkb, lifeless: (which is an intermediate step to removing the code that generates the list of files from this run of the mirror script)23:11
lifelessjeblair: the line above deletes the html indices that would collide with each other23:14
lifelessjeblair: the line I added generates a per-source list that doesn't conflict23:14
lifelessjeblair: I'd also be happy with alternatives like 'use rsync' if you wanted to enable anonymous rsync on the server23:15
lifelessjeblair: but spidering is super slow, really don't want to do that.23:15
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saroblast manuals build failed23:19
sarobhttps://jenkins.openstack.org/job/manuals-upstream-translation-update/243/23:19
sarobsad panda23:20
sarobcan i bug someone to take a look?23:21
clarkbsarob: thats the translation update. is that the one you are wanting us to look into? looks like transifex has done something funny with their certs23:22
sarobyeah, i saw that. also failed on training-manuals23:22
sarobbut i cant find where in the output23:22
clarkbsarob: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/openstack-training/1/console looks like it failed to parse something?23:23
clarkbsarob: SEVERE: Unparseable XPointer: controller-os23:25
sarobhmm, found it23:25
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jeblairlifeless: *nod* this feels like it is possible that it is in conflict with the way we decided to handle the canonical mirror file list.  it may be okay, but it's giving me pause right now, and i'm listening to monty talk about tripleo atm.23:27
clarkbsarob: does that get you sorted?23:28
sarobno unfortunately23:28
clarkbsarob: does it continue to fail after fixing the controller-os thing?23:29
sarobmy local maven doesnt handle remote include statement, but the ci was23:29
sarobthe section exists23:29
sarobso the error is wierd23:29
clarkboh are the docs referring back to github to build themselves?23:30
sarobyeah, using <xi:include href="https://raw.github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/...23:31
sarobit was working23:31
clarkbin general you probably don't want to depend on github for anything build related. github isn't reliable enough23:31
clarkbI wonder if it tried fetching something from github and failed because github 404'd or 500'd23:32
sarobits the only way i know of bringing the manuals content23:32
sarobi dont think so23:32
clarkbisn't the content in the current repo?23:32
sarobit seems to have a problem with using include xpointer statement23:32
clarkbI am probably misunderstanding something fundamental23:33
sarobfor this one yes23:33
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sarobalot of the content in the near future will be from different repos23:33
jeblairsarob: what repos?23:33
sarobopenstack-operations23:34
saroband some others23:34
sarobidea is to not recreate existing content for the training manuals23:34
sarobuse existing as much as possible23:34
jeblairclarkb: this actually sounds like it needs d-g style integration to do properly.23:35
clarkbjeblair: well, they don't run in the gate queue so they inherently have race conditions23:36
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clarkbjeblair: so they can probably get away with referring to remote things that are not github. eg git.o.o23:37
sarobexplain?23:37
clarkbsarob: by referring to other repos it is possible that you will get outdated content if we don't properly order things23:38
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jeblairclarkb: yes, but check/gate tests/drafts should; and somewhat awkwardly the post queue for them would need to observe strict ordering.23:38
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jeblairclarkb: i agree that a good first step is to ignore that problem and just refer to a reliable source23:38
saroboh, i get that23:38
sarobno other way to reuse content23:38
sarobwe will finalize right after release docs are completed and static23:39
jeblair(making a job that assembles multiple repos non-concurrent would probably be good enough for the post queue)23:41
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jeblairsarob, clarkb: maybe the best solution for now would be to 'git clone --depth 1' other needed repos23:45
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clarkbjeblair: maybe. I don't think that addressed the xpointer issue though. I am not convinced it was a reliability of github problme23:45
clarkbunless it got back a file without the controller-os id in it because github can be unreliable23:46
sarobat time of build, how would local repo help?23:46
jeblairclarkb: ok, but that is also an issue.23:46
clarkbsarob: because the files would already be present and maven won't have to retrive them manually which may fail23:46
clarkbsarob: particularly when talking to github23:46
sarobso i would bring in all the repos in the repo i am working on?23:47
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sarobsounds messier that using github23:47
clarkbsarob: yes, prior to running the maven build have a step that clones all of your dependencies23:47
clarkbit is a little messy but far more debuggable23:48
sarobtrue23:48
jeblairsarob: trust us -- github fails all the time at the rate we run jobs23:48
clarkband if you are only using openstack repos you can fetch them from far more reliable sources23:48
sarobi want to make it as reliable as possible23:48
sarobso if i have 10 repos cloned23:49
sarobim working on a branch for a few days23:49
sarobvery likely ill be behind some commits23:49
clarkbjeblair: do you think there is value in trying to run that post job again to see if that particular failure is consistent? might indicate if github is at fault23:50
jeblairclarkb: up to you; i don't have bandwidth to debug.  i'm just saying that regardless, we want to stop using github.23:50
clarkbjeblair: indeed. I will go ahead and trigger it using the gearman client in zuul/tools/23:51
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clarkbsarob: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/openstack-training/2/console it is consistent23:54
sarobfor this debuging i have removed all the remote github href23:55

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